Bannon's War Room - Episode 5054： Tulsi Boxed Out Of Venezuela

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:11.000 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:17.600 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:21.360 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.940 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.760 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.700 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.920 you're in the war room it's thursday january 8th in the year of our lord 2026 it's natalie winters

00:00:58.960 hosting i'll say filling in not for the whole show uh but for the latter half for the one and

00:01:04.260 only stephen k bannon who is joining us from texas i will say before we bring steve on there's some

00:01:10.820 breaking news over at bloomberg a lot going down in iran right now i think here in the war room

00:01:15.300 i'm fair fair to say that dni stands for well obviously director of national intelligence but

00:01:20.940 also do not invade not necessarily do not invite for those of you who've seen the bloomberg already

00:01:27.060 you know what i'm referencing but i want to bring steve on who like i said is joining us from texas

00:01:32.060 we also got poso kurt mills julie kelly a packed show for you so don't go anywhere but steve i want

00:01:36.780 to toss to you i know you got some assets that you want to play but walk us through this new bloomberg

00:01:41.000 article well it's natalie in fact i once was through the show day you had the whole show and

00:01:46.100 you had it booked i thank you for for fitting me in uh because uh and poso for calling in

00:01:50.740 from minneapolis jack's out there with the uh with uh secretary besant who did a magnificent job today

00:01:57.020 and of course a lot of activity in minneapolis on something we've got to be focused on which is the

00:02:01.860 invasion of our country and quite frankly the insurrectionist and the traitors that are not

00:02:06.620 allowing us to get these um illegal alien invaders out of the country it's the number one priority 1.00

00:02:12.300 for the country but something popped up today and i felt we had to address it that's why i'm so glad

00:02:17.040 you booked kurt mills and jack called in it's this bloomberg article look there was a massive hit piece

00:02:23.180 done on tulsi gabbard today uh by bloomberg with with cooperation of the white house and cooperation of

00:02:30.240 people associated with the national security apparatus particularly the intelligence committee this was

00:02:35.580 vicious they actually said it's about excluding tulsi from any uh discussions or involvement

00:02:41.420 in the venezuela situation and in fact they said dni uh stood for do not invite remember she was frozen

00:02:49.020 out too on the uh on the 12-day war of which her intelligence at dni was 100 correct and the cia's

00:02:59.520 intelligence really driven by the massad because ratcliffe is so weak uh was 100 wrong and i can go

00:03:05.560 through every detail in fact tomorrow and i have more time i will go through the details i know

00:03:09.320 posos joined us kurt mills to join us posos by phone uh jack you you know tulsi she came to uh

00:03:16.440 he's not there yet okay fine do we know when jack's going in okay um is kurt mills there i can go here

00:03:23.520 with my rift okay fine uh so uh natalie uh by the way great production i'm just kidding uh this article

00:03:32.720 if we can put it up was a complete hit job tulsi gabbard is stood in the breach and done a fantastic

00:03:39.160 job as far as intelligence goes if you look at what she's told the house during her uh nomination process

00:03:46.200 if you look at her when she goes back up she's been right on the situation uh around israel particularly

00:03:52.040 with iran and the persians she was right about their nuclear program she's been right everything 0.57

00:03:56.820 of course she's always been very hesitant about invasions like what happened down or i should say

00:04:02.140 potential regime change although it's becoming clearer of what went on and president trump removed

00:04:06.940 maduro and it looks like they're working with the vp and this is part of hemispheric defense and now

00:04:11.400 the white house is making this case particularly with greenland is starting to fit together but this is

00:04:17.000 driven by one thing this is driven because tulsi is not just about venezuela she's one of the biggest

00:04:22.460 people that are negative about american involvement in taking out the iranian uh the mullahs and here's

00:04:29.260 the reason we have the sanctions everything we've said on here has gone exactly correct that the sanctions

00:04:35.600 are bringing down the population of the persians are in the streets to overthrow the mullahs if you cut 0.98

00:04:41.140 off the oil which is going to the ccp they would collapse i think in 90 days but there's still this

00:04:46.840 big push oh you got to invade iran you got to invade iran you saw lindsey graham make iran great again i'm

00:04:52.520 not interested in iran being great again the american people don't care about iran being great again what

00:04:57.740 the israel first crowd wrought on israel particularly people that have been defenders of israel is it brought

00:05:05.620 a two-state solution you have to own the fact that the greater israel project and particularly the 12-day

00:05:13.280 war of which the israelis were not winning the americans had to bail them out first off defensively

00:05:18.480 and then last offensively and we know from the times of israel that it wasn't two weeks on their

00:05:24.680 nuclear program it was two years because netanyahu had to tell his cabinet this what was obvious is that

00:05:31.520 president trump ended the 12-day war he did not want to do an evasion and now the massad with the

00:05:36.740 cia and rackliff everything they're doing is trying to push to an evasion it's not necessary the united

00:05:42.260 states does not need to be dragged in to another conflict in the middle east why because the economic

00:05:49.320 sanctions are doing what people thought they would do it's bringing the mullahs to the knees of people in 0.99

00:05:55.300 the streets if you cut them off from oil and they should be cut off from ability to sell oil to the

00:05:59.980 chinese communist party they should be cut off 100 if you did that the people would rise up even more 1.00

00:06:06.280 there's no involvement and you have the cia the massad rackliff such a lightweight they're just

00:06:11.840 they're controlling him they're running him you go but you got lindsey graham and all you know

00:06:15.700 tel aviv levin and all this crowd all they want to do is invade iran we've got enough on our plate

00:06:21.460 right now the president with hemispheric defense what's going on in venezuela potentially greenland

00:06:26.060 talking about the arctic uh right now this huge fight that's going to happen about ukraine about

00:06:31.940 security guarantees with the french and the british lying to people and saying they're going to put

00:06:37.460 troops they're going to put military hubs up near the line of contact with the russians when we know

00:06:42.240 they're never going to fulfill that why there's dead broke look at the domestic policy french has no

00:06:47.280 money they can't they have a they have a parliament they can't even get a budget out of why because

00:06:52.060 they're so in debt and the deficits are so big they have no cash for troops to go to ukraine the

00:06:57.140 uk is the exact same thing both of these countries are in financial crisis and they're going to look

00:07:01.980 to us to bail them out the president's plate is absolutely full and tulsi gabbard for being the 1.00

00:07:07.640 hero she is and actually standing in the breach and giving people good intelligence and the president

00:07:14.560 needs good intelligence because quite frankly i think he's just getting particularly in the iran

00:07:18.740 situation and this was the 12 day war once again if we did not step in at the beginning of that war

00:07:23.780 with aegis cruisers aegis cruisers in the eastern mediterranean with patriot missiles and dad missiles

00:07:30.480 and eventually finish what they started offensively because they could not do it to wit the israeli air

00:07:36.480 force could not take out the surface parts of the nuclear program the united states navy had to do

00:07:41.620 that with 30 tomahawk missiles which happens to be a technology from the 1970s uh president trump

00:07:47.960 bail them out and president trump said hey look i ended the 12 day war the nuclear program is over

00:07:52.500 now they come with the new ballistic missile program everything tulsi gabbard is the one that says well

00:07:58.560 actually this is what reality is and today in bloomberg they went after her to say the dni stands

00:08:05.080 for do not invite well she should be invited number one the president needs as many sources of information

00:08:11.120 as possible particularly this is like back in the 1970s team b was always there to judge what

00:08:17.880 the cia was saying why because until bill casey got to the cia it was wrong about everything about

00:08:24.680 the soviet union the cia has the worst reputation in the world of being dead wrong on major issues

00:08:30.800 facing the united states strategically their history is replete with this and what do you have and what

00:08:36.580 do you have is uh what do you have and what you have thank you uh post is on with us what you have

00:08:42.660 the cia once again dead wrong about everything they tell the president uh natalie jack basovic joins us

00:08:49.300 by by telephone i know he's got a lot to say about tulsi oh steve uh the director of national

00:08:57.000 intelligence tulsi gabbard has been not only is she one of the most experienced operators from the

00:09:04.340 military she's someone who carries forward the voices of so many combat veterans in the global war on

00:09:11.380 terror so many people who understand and if you go back and watch what we did on tales of regime

00:09:16.480 change the last couple of weeks here on human events daily that we went through chapter and verse

00:09:22.560 and has been a leading voice from the perspective of the war fighter from the perspective of someone

00:09:28.800 who's been there and done it to understand the trauma that our troops have gone through when being

00:09:35.420 involved in these overseas wars she's been a voice for that and a leader on that issue and is a

00:09:40.480 national leader on that issue of course very close with bobby kennedy someone who's completely beloved

00:09:47.160 by maha and in fact totally beloved by the warfighter community in this country that's dni tulsi gabbard

00:09:54.960 and look i heard the vice president up there at the at the podium and he said that it's completely false

00:10:00.140 right that's what we're getting from the white house on this that the narrative is completely false

00:10:06.700 again now now the dni to understand for folks who who aren't in the room you know their op their role

00:10:13.400 is not operational that's the intelligence arm so does that mean they're involved in every every arm of

00:10:19.280 an operation no but what they do is they provide the intelligence to the commander the commander then

00:10:24.180 takes that and uses it to make the best operations from that there's no question so when you look at it

00:10:29.420 and i see dni gabbard when she's in the white house she's there every single time for the briefings 0.99

00:10:34.100 from the pdb on downs

00:10:36.700 by the way if if it's completely false i would like to have bloomberg then make a correction

00:10:43.940 the white house says it's completely false so if their sources are not highly placed people in the

00:10:48.840 intelligence services which bloomberg says in the article and then they actually quote

00:10:54.020 they quote a high official in uh but unnamed in the white house that wouldn't put their name

00:10:59.560 on it said oh well a lot of this is not correct we ought to have that official's name vice president

00:11:03.880 it's great that he stepped up but we ought to have uh bloomberg either come up with the names or

00:11:09.060 issue or correction because this looks like to the initiated in dc this looks like an organized hit

00:11:15.920 jack well it's clearly an attempt to sow chaos there's no question here and whether those chaos

00:11:23.120 intelligence agents are in members of the deep state which certainly wouldn't surprise me it

00:11:28.020 wouldn't be the first time we've seen intelligence agents target members of the president's cabinet or

00:11:32.820 perhaps other uh folks who have political acts to grind with tulsi i couldn't tell you but what i do

00:11:38.680 know is that this is clearly an intelligence driven operation to try to show a so a rift where there just

00:11:46.400 isn't one at least not that i've seen natalie natalie your thoughts a lot of this comes down to iran i was

00:11:53.860 particularly upset with lindsey graham going on hannity and saying we're gonna go bomb to make

00:11:58.500 rand get great again i don't give a damn about iran being great again that's the persians problem 0.98

00:12:03.460 that's why it's got to be the persians we should not be in there to working on making iran great again 1.00

00:12:09.260 let the persians throw the mullahs out and let the persians deal with what they did when they threw the 0.98

00:12:14.120 shah out and they threw the united states out it's their problem natalie winters your thoughts

00:12:18.940 well look i think the only vindication that we need not that we want to be right here in the war

00:12:23.800 room but that we were right about the 12-day war that it was always about regime change

00:12:27.340 is what we're seeing right now right there i guess basically not even engaging in any of the uh the

00:12:32.620 foreplay or the pretext to try to justify getting involved in and you know deposing uh the iranian

00:12:38.480 regime now they're just straight up really amplifying obviously these street protests that we're

00:12:42.880 seeing going on making a huge deal out of it really kind of sailing off of off of those trade

00:12:47.940 wins but look i think steve the key point here is that we voted for regime change here in the united

00:12:53.020 states not abroad and if we now want to start invoking human rights as the arbitrary red line

00:12:59.920 which we want to stake the kinetic part of world war three on um that's something that sounds like it

00:13:04.620 should be coming out of the atlantic council certainly not maga um certainly not president trump

00:13:10.020 and by the way if that's the new yard line they're yardstick that we want to measure with

00:13:14.180 then i would highly suggest against being so cozy cozy and buddy buddy with the chinese communist 0.98

00:13:18.400 party including but not limited to giving them advanced technology so they can better carry out

00:13:22.980 repression that far outweighs any of the evil regimes and they are evil that we just talked about so

00:13:28.580 it's a little double standard a little bit too much hypocrisy for me but steve are you going to hang

00:13:35.540 with us through the break or do you have to bounce yeah i tell you what the audience wants you to stay

00:13:39.480 you should stay if no no if jack can have jack can update us the getter chat specifically great

00:13:46.120 speech i i know that's why i love getter uh i'll i'll stick around for a short commercial breaking

00:13:52.080 on the side if jack stays around and updates us on minneapolis then you're gonna have the great

00:13:56.340 kurt mills to give us his view of what's going on with iran and tulsi gabbard the great tulsi gabbard

00:14:02.920 over at what does dni stand for in the in the war room do not invade is that is that what it is

00:14:08.600 do not invade natalie i think so that that that and so much more what can i say i think i think

00:14:16.480 they should print a retraction but like i said we don't need regime change in all these other

00:14:20.340 countries we want regime change here the very people whether they're the authors of this article

00:14:24.900 the hidden hands behind them take your pick the war room wants them out i don't really care that

00:14:31.560 much about maduro or the atolls i mean i do when it impacts here in the united states of america but

00:14:37.700 we need to go we don't need to go chase world war three or at least the kinetic component

00:14:42.360 we need regime change in new york city we need mandami out we need that guy fry i care about

00:14:48.240 islamic extremists in new york yeah we're coming up against a break steve i don't know if you have a

00:14:55.240 clock but we're gonna bounce but we're in posse you get more steve more jack we'll be right back

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00:16:34.880 welcome back to the war room i guess we always like to hear the line if they can do this to me

00:16:43.800 imagine what they can do to you and i kind of would say to the politicians that say that they're

00:16:48.420 kind of already doing it to us i would just point you to minnesota invading the country with a bunch of

00:16:53.000 third world foreigners that some of them end up terrorists those are the good ones the worst ones 1.00

00:16:57.420 end up becoming fraudsters i guess that's economic terrorism take your pick uh that's your new

00:17:02.220 neighbor uh jack posobic i hear you got human events assets on the ground i don't know if i'm

00:17:08.080 letting the cat out of the bag there but you've been monitoring that situation you got got some team

00:17:12.760 members down there can you give us the the latest on what is expected to to pop off there tonight

00:17:18.280 into the weekend well natalie we certainly do and uh not to get too into it because of operational

00:17:23.700 security but we do have human events assets that are on the ground there in minneapolis and uh right

00:17:30.200 outside the whipple center you can see the video up it's going viral online now uh gregory bovino the

00:17:35.440 commander there was just assaulted by one of these agitators right outside the federal center this is

00:17:40.780 of course where ice is conducting their operations somehow his security allowed a jack jack jack jack

00:17:47.120 hang on hang on you're telling both bovino is the third or fourth senior guy at dhs he's literally the

00:17:53.800 ground commander now for the mass deportations you can't tell me that they attack bovino and we have

00:18:00.720 not surged in federalize the national guard and get it in they get control grab waltz pull him out of

00:18:07.080 there grab fry pull him out of there they've worked up these agitators bovino is the most senior guy he's

00:18:13.220 our he's our field commander how could he possibly get attacked and we're not shutting the city down

00:18:18.220 no the situation is rapidly rapidly deteriorating and there's no question about that um and what

00:18:25.520 we're also now hearing is that antifa groups are expected to be all as they are surging federal

00:18:32.020 agents but we're also hearing that antifa groups and other left-wing groups are planning to surge to

00:18:37.000 the city by this weekend uh and you expect you do you expect this to go up tonight or do you think

00:18:45.340 they're going to have look if they just attack bovino they're prepared to do anything so you

00:18:48.980 think they're going to be problems tonight if they're surging in the basically the the vanguard

00:18:54.000 shock troops of the insurrectionists and that would be antifa guys that you've dealt with down in the

00:18:59.140 pits uh for the last 10 12 15 years if they're surging those guys and i hope that we're federalizing

00:19:05.740 some national guard because this is beyond ice this is beyond ice this needs military assets sir

00:19:10.160 they're not only are they surging they're they've already established a chas or perhaps a maz 0.93

00:19:16.980 at the at the vicinity where the scene where the shooting took place they've got barricades up there

00:19:22.960 which have been allowed to be erected they've got uh emplacements up they're setting up fortifications

00:19:28.660 steve they're setting up fortifications for something and i fear and i've been tweeting this

00:19:33.080 out again that we're going to see more targeted attacks on ice officials and at this point it looks

00:19:38.780 as though they may be planning to assassinate commander bovino

00:19:42.280 they actually attacked let's play this can you walk us through this jack or i know you're on the

00:19:49.200 phone it looks like they jump on him and try to attack him right so he's he's he's walking to his

00:19:54.300 vehicle and they can tell that's the command vehicle there he's there with his detail and somehow this

00:19:58.740 agitator gets in his way is able to get into his face he walks right up and is able to uh they get

00:20:04.900 their hands on him thank god that person didn't have a weapon thank god that person didn't have

00:20:09.260 something on them because this could have gone sideways very fast uh there's a number of agitators

00:20:14.680 who are there now his security is able to get on them very quickly but it just goes to show you how

00:20:19.400 hostile and how volatile of the situation this is and i guarantee i hate to say it steve i really hate to

00:20:25.600 say it but we are going to see more attacks on ice agents and obviously commander bovino is going to be

00:20:32.520 one of the high value targets for antifa

00:20:35.040 coda give me this that that barricade we showed around the morning show the one they put up

00:20:40.660 overnight they're not turning that into a chas like in portland and seattle are they 0.82

00:20:45.220 well that's what i said they may be trying to establish a mass right minneapolis autonomous zone or

00:20:50.780 uh they're on the ground because what we're what we were told yesterday go look at nick sordor's

00:20:55.080 reporting that the police had pulled out and that was the first thing that happened in chas remember

00:20:59.260 it was the police pulling out by mayor jenny durkin at the time to say this area no longer belongs to

00:21:06.040 us this area now belongs to you that's what set the conditions for the chas to be set up what

00:21:13.480 happened yesterday the police were pulled out i mean this is why i think i would if i was president

00:21:20.400 trump i'd order the national guard federalize them or the national guard in there and take that thing

00:21:24.580 down take that barricade down before they can start getting behind it tonight uh anyway uh jack

00:21:30.120 thank you uh anything else natalie for jack i'm gonna bounce also i know you got kurt mills julie

00:21:34.480 kelly a pack show oscar uh jack if i can ask you one one more question before before you bounce jack

00:21:42.200 if you can stay steve the audience wants you as long as you can stay so i that's that's direct

00:21:48.160 orders from the posse but i understand saying you're busy but jack i think the audience wants to know

00:21:52.520 you have uh we have another show to prepare for here for thought you've got to bounce

00:21:56.120 real quick can you ask answer more question are a lot of the protesters on the ground there

00:22:02.360 are they the you know white liberal archetype or is it the somalians like what's the demarc

00:22:07.740 the demographics of who's actually protesting i haven't i haven't seen somalians this is this is

00:22:12.320 white antifa that are out there i haven't seen the somali community mobilizing at all in this

00:22:16.500 i certainly haven't heard that i will ask um but that's not something that we've seen at this point

00:22:21.140 jack thank you we appreciate having you on thank you god bless the podcast thank you uh look it looked

00:22:29.300 like it was a karen that was shot yesterday in that uh in that incident that happened uh natalie and so 0.72

00:22:34.820 maybe that's where it's going to play natalie i have to bounce too you got a full show thank you so

00:22:38.800 much for letting me horn in here uh kevin friedman studios in texas the economic war room want to thank

00:22:44.240 him an entire crew that came back up and natalie uh godspeed man thank you sir for joining us thank

00:22:50.700 you for uh let me fill in for you big shoes to fill but i will try my best

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00:23:46.560 get into what's happening in iran first and foremost your thoughts i don't know if you saw our kind of

00:23:52.400 primer discussion on the bloomberg article the idea that toll sees nothing led into a lot of the

00:23:57.560 venezuela discussions your your thoughts on all that yeah i mean it appears that uh subtext has been

00:24:04.660 made text and that the relationship between od and i were the director of national intelligence uh

00:24:09.760 former congresswoman gabbard uh that has frayed between her and the president since at least 0.99

00:24:15.180 the 12-day war if you recall uh in june you know he said he didn't really care what her assessment was

00:24:20.880 and then the you know basically unfortunately i think because i think you know gabbard is uh one of

00:24:26.200 the more capable members of the administration uh the relationship seemingly hasn't recovered and so

00:24:30.780 you know she runs a vast bureaucracy um but trump has a sort of and i'm sure steve would attest this

00:24:36.520 sort of an informal management style and who's in the mix is is in the mix and it doesn't appear

00:24:42.140 uh that she uh is in the mix to put it to put it mildly um and that's i guess suppose no surprise

00:24:48.500 because uh of all the administration officials she has the longest paper trail um of opposing the type 0.58

00:24:55.320 of action that we saw over the weekend with maduro um she was a pretty steadfast opponent of regime

00:25:00.820 change uh in venezuela as a congresswoman granted she was a democrat there always a kind of independent 0.98

00:25:06.220 democrat though uh the kind of uh democrat you know who endorsed bernie sanders the kind of uh uh she

00:25:12.920 would attract the kind of voter who might have uh been a democrat formerly and came over to president

00:25:16.960 trump um so not necessarily someone uh that the the president feels very comfortable jettisoning from

00:25:22.560 jettisoning from his uh coalition and in addition uh contra the first term uh trump has fired no senior

00:25:29.700 officials or no cabinet level officials um at to this point and so he appears still loath to do that

00:25:35.660 even if the two of them uh by all appearances aren't on very strong working terms

00:25:40.640 and just a clarifying question i think this is my kind of difficulty in reading this article is there's

00:25:47.240 almost an intentionality whereby it's like the people who don't want her there are admitting

00:25:51.280 we know what you actually stand for is maga and because of that we're not going to let you in the

00:25:57.680 room right there's like an intentional subversion of what actually should be happening as opposed to

00:26:03.320 oh this is just politics it's a personnel thing it's like an ideological thing so who who are the

00:26:08.460 competing camps well i mean surely uh the people who want to see us go further uh on venezuela

00:26:15.960 who want to see us go further on iran um are very happy uh with the status quo in which she's not a

00:26:21.800 major voice in the room so uh it's it's no grand mystery uh secretary rubio uh potentially secretary

00:26:28.400 hegseth is a competing power uh structure i mean odni itself is a weird job um it was created in the

00:26:35.180 aftermath of of 9-11 and traditionally there's three great offices of state um for national security

00:26:41.580 so that's secretary of state uh the national security advisor who heads the national security

00:26:46.740 council of course with rubio uh that's both of him he has both roles and then the secretary of defense

00:26:52.200 and then there's a sort of half um you know maybe a 3.5 offices uh great offices of state to use the

00:26:59.360 british term and that's odni and that and that person can be as powerful uh or as uh limited in

00:27:06.420 influence with the president as the president uh you know prefers i mean for instance uh in the

00:27:12.300 first term i think very few people other than maybe washington insiders will remember uh director

00:27:16.600 coates uh the longtime indiana senator or the former indiana senator who became the director um it's not

00:27:22.840 like that person had the celebrity um that that gabbard did i think what's unusual about this is number

00:27:28.300 one gabbard is one of the most famous people in the administration she's she's a genuine celebrity 0.63

00:27:33.000 uh number two uh this is the kind of fourth issue in a politician that uh helped lots of people

00:27:39.120 look forward kurt if you're getting with us through the break i want to get into what's happening in

00:27:44.460 iran i think uh pertinent to understand i mean i always remember from the days the biden regime

00:27:50.860 we would hear oh the border's on fire or immigration is under control and now we're doing all this stuff

00:27:56.320 abroad well just because we fixed the border and maybe got some parts of the immigration racket

00:28:02.820 under control it wasn't fixing that so we could go and get involved into a lot of foreign

00:28:07.480 entanglements it was to fix that and tamp all that down and those two tracks together that is how

00:28:13.940 you get america first and i don't think that there's any justification for toppling regimes in iran

00:28:22.020 we got islamic extremists they're just in new york we don't need to cross uh cross the ocean 0.98

00:28:26.740 we'll be right back after this short break

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00:30:10.760 welcome back to war room we are still joined by kurt mills kurt give us your thoughts just let it rip

00:30:24.700 and then we will we will let you go we know you're a busy man i guess all the potential regime change

00:30:29.720 going on maybe it's maybe it's good for business of the american conservative probably not um but just

00:30:34.880 give us the latest on on everything happening in iran the real the propaganda and what what our

00:30:40.120 audience needs to know no i mean it's perverse incentives for us i mean we were founded against

00:30:44.920 uh change wars and so it's good for business but i think bad for the country so um to answer your

00:30:50.900 question directly um these are the most severe protests in iran um since 2009 so-called uh green

00:30:58.100 revolution and the uh 2022 protests but i think very critically hard hard to gauge and again you

00:31:04.280 have to you have to remember you know severity of protest that that does need not necessarily

00:31:10.060 correlate to uh impairment of the regime uh but i think uh by the circumstantial reports we have these

00:31:16.480 have been the least these have been the third most lethal of the last 16 years which is not nothing

00:31:21.880 uh iran has a severe water and electricity problem um iran is a beleaguered government uh certainly

00:31:29.220 since uh june um but the early indications i think are that these protests are not enormous uh the

00:31:36.680 question i think is uh are they a tripwire uh for you know not necessarily an order from on high but uh

00:31:44.160 you know just one soldier or one member of the irgc to shoot a protester and then that to be uh

00:31:50.380 circulated to president trump and people like lindsey graham and tom cotton um and you know the

00:31:55.860 various think tanks here in washington convinced him to join with the israelis in on a strike that i

00:32:00.940 think is the most um basically uh proximate danger for the species um not to you know obviously defend

00:32:07.540 a crackdown that that's obviously going on there not to defend the sort of incompetence of of different

00:32:14.180 parts of the iranian uh state uh but uh you know medium level protests in the country um need not

00:32:22.340 be a pretext for the u.s to be involved i mean of course the united states itself has protests it has

00:32:28.140 protests right now as you uh have uh regaled your audience in minneapolis uh would it be appropriate

00:32:34.140 for china uh or russia to bomb uh minnesota in support of the protesters i think not so we should be

00:32:40.560 very careful here kurt mills you make a great point if people want to follow you read the

00:32:46.740 magazine where can they go to do that in the meantime yeah the magazine is the american

00:32:51.600 conservative at the american conservative.com founded in 2002 uh by conservatives and friends

00:32:57.020 against the iraq war and i am at kurt mills c-u-r-t-m-i-l-l-s on x and you know google it thank you

00:33:03.840 thank you for joining us

00:33:06.460 and war and posse i want to go to our next guest the one and only oscar blue ramirez who joins us

00:33:15.220 with some good news talking about how trump has pulled out of the was it global compact migration

00:33:20.680 whatever euphemistic hr sounding un term that is coded language for destroying america from within by

00:33:27.140 mass population movements um but give us give us the significance of that and what that actually

00:33:32.620 looks like how that'll play out well uh we just recently saw that the trump administration has

00:33:38.560 gotten out of every globalist agreement with the united nations and you know we that we are on the

00:33:44.580 other side of the border we are completely happy about it that is one of the most strategic and

00:33:50.080 greatest moves that the trump administration has done we have been saying this now for many years on

00:33:56.040 the war room the united states of america needs to get out of the globalist compact of immigration

00:34:00.900 the globalist compact natalie was brought to the west hemisphere by barack obama the administration

00:34:06.360 then donald trump came in he got out of it and then you know 2020 happened and it was a complete

00:34:12.360 disaster biden came back to it and now the trump administration has completely gotten out so the

00:34:18.860 situation right here it is the consequence of the midterms elections natalie what is going to happen

00:34:24.160 later on the 2028 election it is extremely important for republicans to win the next election why

00:34:29.940 because after cbp1 was canceled right here in mexico more than 1.2 million migrants stayed scattered in

00:34:38.160 the borders with mexico in the united states other 1 million migrants are scattered in the central parts

00:34:42.680 of mexico so you're talking about the 2 million migrants are waiting to see that the borders and the

00:34:47.420 floodgates are going to continue to be open or there's a possibility again to open the floodgates now

00:34:52.480 another million migrants are scattered all over in central america and then you have the massive 0.73

00:34:57.340 situation that is happening in south america which in this particular moment the midterms are extremely

00:35:02.420 important let's see what happens but you know this is the current situation with that with the you

00:35:06.820 know and it's it's extremely you know one of the greatest things that i have been talking about

00:35:11.300 for many years getting out of this compact of immigration that it was the cancer that spread not

00:35:15.700 only to europe but also to the west hemisphere and the continent of america

00:35:19.040 and oscar you're always on the front lines of so many of these issues down there can you give us

00:35:25.700 the latest on all things venezuela yes we were at the borders you know just recently reporting over

00:35:31.980 there and we saw how there was the enormous deployment of the national guard of venezuela

00:35:35.500 tensions were rising now the situation after the extraction of nicolas maduro still there are two

00:35:40.940 pieces of the puzzle that they need to be extracted that is dios dado cabello and also padrino

00:35:45.400 lopez just recently dios dado cabello was in a press conference saying that he was concerned about

00:35:51.060 his safety he was concerned about his life and venezuelans of course absolutely they're all 0.76

00:35:55.840 celebrating that he's concerned about it because he has been an extremely bad guy and he's on the

00:36:01.040 loop of marco rubio as a matter of fact marco rubio said multiple times that he's next on the

00:36:06.220 extraction list but also one of the most important things natalie that has happened right now at this

00:36:11.460 particular moment it is one of the prisons that has been dedicated to torture political prisoners

00:36:16.280 and at this moment the leader of the prison elicoide who recently donald trump said that his

00:36:22.560 possibility that he's going to close it of enforcing and talking to delzy rodriguez the new current

00:36:28.420 president of venezuela has released political prisoners so the actual strategy to hate to take control

00:36:34.600 and to make peace in venezuela by the trump administration you know it's more than perfect right now

00:36:40.260 oscar if people want to follow you stay up to date with truly we're very grateful for for your

00:36:47.880 reporting it's not just opinion you're you're there you're brave enough to go there you got the sources

00:36:52.180 you got the access really it's it's invaluable where can people go before we have you back on to stay

00:36:57.460 up to date with everything you're doing thank you so much natalie for the invitation oscar ramirez tj

00:37:02.700 and x uh oscar blue ramirez uh and all uh you know and all the social media uh be sure to be following

00:37:09.240 rap and espanol real america's voice use in spanish also and you can find me at real america's voice use

00:37:14.160 uh you know absolutely natalie thank you for the invitation thank you sir we appreciate your work

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00:38:04.960 your take and i i guess i wasn't on with you during january 6th but i think i speak for all of them and i

00:38:10.100 say thank you for all the work you've done i think you changed what that day means and in history so

00:38:14.780 we're very grateful for that um but there's just been some some wonderful maybe glaring maybe evil take

00:38:21.000 your pick um hypocrisy a wonderful ruben gallego tweet that you really exposed if you want to get

00:38:27.860 into that but also the sort of double standard on you know unmasking i guess every anytime a law

00:38:33.780 enforcement officer who's on our side of the football and i know i started the football but

00:38:36.940 just not you know doing something that advances the democrat narrative it seems like their identity

00:38:40.960 is unmasked sometimes illegally within like five minutes yet you know january 6th stuff it was like

00:38:46.400 nothing uh nothing can make them move any slower walk us through all that so natalie it was i have a

00:38:54.480 little bit of whiplash i think from you know the past few days tuesday when you had an all-day uh somber

00:39:02.260 affair in the capital democrats once again rolling out the same tropes about january 6th the same lies

00:39:09.500 the same misrepresentations uh the same celebrity j6 cops i call them who have been busted for lying

00:39:18.180 under oath not just before the j6 committee nancy pelosi's j6 committee but also under oath natalie

00:39:24.020 in court in federal court as victims of january 6th nonetheless here they are once again telling their

00:39:31.780 sob stories and then they had this candlelight vigil uh at the end of the evening um walking down the

00:39:38.600 steps of the capitol they actually sang god bless america which hello when was last time you heard

00:39:44.000 a bunch of democrats singing that and promoting the lie that police officers died as a result of january

00:39:51.720 6th january 6th is really the only day that most democrats will honor law enforcement otherwise we hear

00:39:58.560 how they are racist systemically racist to defund the police of course abolish ice and then less than 24

00:40:07.300 hours later after making all of these pronouncements about domestic terrorists attacking police officers

00:40:13.760 who by the way those people went to jail for a very long time um here they were to swooping quickly

00:40:21.580 without evidence without knowing all the facts the defense of this renee good we're told is her last

00:40:27.380 name um who was uh shot and killed by a federal ice officer after she attempted to use her suv as a weapon

00:40:35.920 and run him over over after she inappropriately and unlawfully tried to obstruct obstruct sorry an ice 1.00

00:40:43.740 operation in minneapolis so that was that it was pretty uh i'm a little dizzy trying to follow the logic

00:40:53.060 uh and logic and uh political approach of these democrats who in less than 24 hours quickly changed

00:41:00.460 their tune about both law enforcement and what kind of person represents a domestic terrorist

00:41:06.100 it's too much hypocrisy to track i kind of feel the same way in tracking the judges and their wild

00:41:13.080 decisions honestly there's a non-zero chance that somehow a judge intervenes and maduro gets sent back

00:41:17.700 to to venezuela but that aside can you walk us through i know you've got some interesting developments

00:41:23.100 on boseberg that you wanted to highlight for us right so finally um republicans in congress held a

00:41:31.940 hearing on the needed necessary impeachment of jeb bosberg j judge james bosberg who is the chief

00:41:40.440 judge of the dc district court of course we have discussed natalie you and i many times and steve and

00:41:46.560 i have as well i've posted for years actually about jeb bosberg uh and his involvement in the january

00:41:52.920 six prosecution he gave ray epps infamously a slap on the wrist same with michael slussman so he has

00:42:01.740 designated himself judicial enemy number one of the trump administration thwarting and sabotaging

00:42:08.200 uh one of the president's key immigration policies the alien enemies act which ordered the immediate 0.93

00:42:15.320 removal of illegal venezuelans tied to trend de aragua this was back in march of course jeb bosberg not just

00:42:22.200 putting a halt to that but then using those proceedings as the basis to pursue criminal

00:42:27.680 contempt charges against people at the department of justice and department of homeland security

00:42:33.640 thankfully the supreme court has stepped in and put a halt to that but there's a long line of egregious

00:42:40.480 misconduct by by jeb bosberg but natalie it's funny despite everything that jeb bosberg had done

00:42:46.500 in the january 6 prosecution as the chief judge overseeing grand jury proceedings and the two

00:42:52.360 criminal cases against donald trump january 6 and the uh classified documents case the only time

00:43:00.280 the jeb bosberg actually got the attention of republicans in washington was when he signed

00:43:05.860 non-disclosure orders basically gag orders prohibiting cell phone carriers from notifying members of congress

00:43:13.840 uh eight or nine republican senators at least one house member prohibiting those cell phone carriers

00:43:21.220 from notifying those targets that the department of justice under special counsel jack smith

00:43:26.980 were seeking had subpoenaed their phone records that was enough to finally tick off republicans

00:43:34.880 in washington so a subcommittee of the senate judiciary committee today led by ted cruz um urged the house

00:43:43.560 so of course impeachment proceedings have to start in the house there is a resolution

00:43:47.320 that was introduced by representative brandon gill we're not really sure where that is

00:43:52.200 um so urging the house to pursue that i want to hold you through we're coming up against a break but i want

00:43:58.160 to get clear next steps most importantly so we can hold our house republicans accountable because here

00:44:04.020 in the war room uh we like we like accountability they call it uh retribution we call it justice we'll be

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00:45:28.820 here's your host steven k band welcome back to the war room we've still got julie kelly julie i want you

00:45:37.800 to finish kind of the point you were making just so the audience can understand the timeline of events

00:45:42.780 um so this is jeb botsberg that uh impeachment inquiry into him hopefully forcing house republicans

00:45:50.680 now to open up officially open up that inquiry into impeaching him also recommendations to impeach

00:45:57.420 judge deborah uh boardman who was the one who uh imposed that really late sentence on the individual

00:46:04.900 who had attempted or planned to assassinate supreme court justice brett kavanaugh of course natalie

00:46:11.520 there's a very long list of judges who need at least uh some sort of censure or some official

00:46:19.160 house commendation of their conduct so i guess this is a start we'll see exactly what the house does with

00:46:25.100 that um but another frustrating thing is today every single republican senator natalie voted in favor of

00:46:34.760 hanging a plaque in the u.s capitol to honor law enforcement agencies who defended the building

00:46:42.520 on january 6 2021 this is the sort of theatrics the sort of performative uh work product that we get

00:46:52.200 uh unfortunately too often from senate republicans here a few days later after you have democrats

00:47:00.160 accusing a federal officer of committing murder now honoring law enforcement agencies that by the way

00:47:07.940 started attacking u.s citizens on government property in the middle of the day responsible for

00:47:14.220 killing three of them this is the capitol police and dc metro police then opened up investigative units

00:47:21.220 across the country capitol police to further spy on u.s citizens and then of course also honoring

00:47:26.880 the fbi which had a still unknown number of informants and undercover agents embedded in groups

00:47:34.080 before and on january 6th and then use their power for four years to treat j6ers like legitimate 1.00

00:47:40.680 domestic terrorists not people who try to run over ice agents people who walk into a government

00:47:45.000 building in the middle of the day this is what our republican senators each and every one of them

00:47:52.540 voted today to honor those law enforcement agencies that have weaponized their power repeatedly for years

00:48:01.080 against their own constituents really way to go guys great work those are the what the same ones all

00:48:07.980 worked up about you know human rights in every other country except the united states of america yes

00:48:12.780 spare me via regime change theatrics julie kelly the audience always appreciates you coming on

00:48:18.480 before we have you back where can people go to follow you and stay up to date with everything

00:48:21.740 you're working on always glad to be on with you navalee thanks for having me uh declassified with

00:48:27.300 julie kelly on sub stack and then x julie underscore kelly too thank you ma'am for joining us talk to you soon

00:48:36.240 thanks nally just remember i guess i don't have to remind this audience how they tried to uh to take you

00:48:42.540 that was january 6th i always liken it to the uh hundred flowers campaign in communist china they

00:48:48.000 wanted to use that day to identify dissent and just absolutely crush and destroy and that they tried

00:48:54.220 to do but i think the real reason that they they hate you it's why i keep saying we voted for regime

00:48:59.480 change here in the united states not abroad is because we kind of did that right i think january 6th and

00:49:05.480 maga is sort of the inverse of the establishment you know cia-led regime change where they're really good 1.00

00:49:10.700 at the you know seizing the capital toppling the dictator all that uh but then they're not really

00:49:15.300 good at solidifying power or nation building meanwhile in maga not that we're for uh toppling

00:49:21.180 dictators or taking over capitals but we're really good at solidifying power and we're really good at

00:49:27.080 nation building despite their best efforts to lie to us and repeatedly tell us that america is not a

00:49:31.560 nation whether it's tapping into our energy reserves promoting a common identity i really think

00:49:36.900 that's why they resent us i was just thinking about as julie was talking it's because we are able to do

00:49:41.580 what they have tried to do in countries abroad and frankly what they've tried to do in the most

00:49:45.600 distorted and perverse way here in the united states trying to nation build us into a country that looks

00:49:50.120 nothing like our founding fathers intended right progressive they want to progress away from that

00:49:56.800 but i guess they're quite open about that they're what out there trying to assassinate

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00:50:06.700 sorry the somalians it's the crazy white liberals like what it's absurd mike lindell i think you know 0.95

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00:53:05.540 somalians receiving a bunch of money to do i don't know what with but uh not whatever they're

00:53:11.140 supposed to be doing with it i have a new story on that on my sub stack you should go read it it's

00:53:15.320 nataliejwinters.substack.com absolutely mind-blowing thank you guys for hanging with me we got joe allen

00:53:21.280 in the next hour so make sure you stay tuned and of course steve is back tomorrow morning have a good one

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Bannon's War Room - January 09, 2026

Episode 5054： Tulsi Boxed Out Of Venezuela

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