Bannon's War Room - Episode 5063： Populist Tear For Economics; SCOTUS Hearing On Transgender Athletes

00:00:00.780 So Donald Trump apparently has some regrets about the National Guard, not their politically

00:00:05.760 targeted deployment to cities like Los Angeles, Chicago and Memphis, but regrets about not

00:00:12.480 ordering them to seize voting machines after the 2020 presidential election, which Donald

00:00:17.440 Trump decisively lost to Joe Biden by more than seven million votes.

00:00:21.860 In a new interview, The New York Times asked Trump why he did not follow through with the

00:00:26.100 threat.

00:00:26.600 His response?

00:00:28.400 Well, I should have.

00:00:30.340 Adding they're good warriors.

00:00:32.160 I'm not sure that they're sophisticated enough in the ways of crooked Democrats in the way

00:00:36.500 they cheat to figure that out.

00:00:39.040 I've read both the Minnesota and Illinois lawsuits.

00:00:41.840 They're really political diatribes masquerading as lawsuits.

00:00:46.660 If you look at what both states are asking the courts to do, it's to kick ice out of those

00:00:52.060 states and cities and to bar ice from carrying on federal law enforcement in Illinois and

00:00:57.320 Minnesota.

00:00:57.620 That's the top thing both states asked to do.

00:01:00.380 And they cite zero precedent for that.

00:01:02.860 There is zero precedent for that.

00:01:04.840 There is no way a judge can say, you federal law enforcement agency, you are not allowed

00:01:09.760 to execute federal law in a certain state or city.

00:01:13.100 I think the most that the states could get out of this if they get sympathetic judges is

00:01:18.280 a judge who's going to ask questions of ice, who's going to hold hearings, who's going to

00:01:22.580 demand questions about how they're training, how they're carrying out their policy.

00:01:25.740 You also could have judges that issue sort of symbolic orders along the lines of ice, you

00:01:30.680 are not to violate the law.

00:01:32.100 But that's already the case.

00:01:33.380 It's already not allowed for ice to violate the law.

00:01:35.800 So these lawsuits, which appear to be coordinated, they're potentially powerful political statements,

00:01:41.100 but I don't give them much of a chance of achieving the legal thing that they're asking

00:01:44.800 for in the courts.

00:01:46.180 Even today, an hour outside Minneapolis, in St. Cloud, Trump's agents, dozens of them

00:01:51.200 tried to muster some kind of military style show of force at a mini mall parking lot in

00:01:57.080 St. Cloud, Minnesota.

00:01:58.420 They were soon surrounded by hundreds of local residents telling them to get out.

00:02:02.600 They were so overwhelmed with the way the neighborhood responded.

00:02:06.860 Trump's agents got stuck there in the mini mall parking lot.

00:02:10.880 A Democratic state senator had to intervene to ask the crowd to please let the federal

00:02:15.600 agents leave because they otherwise couldn't.

00:02:18.740 Finally, after about an hour, people allowed these tough guy masked agents to turntail and

00:02:24.240 leave with their tails between their legs.

00:02:26.580 Our top story this hour, of course, the state of Minnesota and the twin cities of Minneapolis

00:02:32.960 and St. Paul are suing the Trump administration over a surge of federal forces there.

00:02:39.180 The lawsuit argues that federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security,

00:02:44.300 have acted unconstitutionally and unlawfully by violating the state's sovereignty and civil

00:02:50.660 rights laws.

00:02:51.780 The American people are the most generous people in the world.

00:02:55.880 You just can't take advantage of us.

00:02:57.560 When immigrants come here, you've got to learn which side of the road to drive on, customs 1.00

00:03:02.420 and laws to follow, and that you cannot steal from the U.S. government the way you did

00:03:06.680 from your government.

00:03:07.300 What I hear is that he believes the mistake in 2020 wasn't the big lie.

00:03:13.080 It was actually the restraint.

00:03:15.360 The mistake wasn't the lack of evidence, but the lack of force.

00:03:18.260 The mistake was that he didn't bend the system far enough.

00:03:22.580 I think he is telling us, broadcasting very loudly, what his strategy is for the next election.

00:03:27.500 I'm not talking about 2028.

00:03:28.480 I'm talking about 2026 and what he would like to do or what he plans to do there if things

00:03:33.980 don't go his way.

00:03:34.620 Yeah, I think we should be honest about it, and I don't think that it's just fantasy that's

00:03:38.620 happening in his brain.

00:03:39.660 He tried in 2020.

00:03:41.080 He directed Ruli Giuliani to go to the DOJ and DHS and to seize the voting machines.

00:03:45.920 Bill Barr said no.

00:03:47.180 Ken Cuccinelli said no.

00:03:48.440 They made it public.

00:03:49.500 There was enough guardrails around him at the time that said you can't do these things.

00:03:53.120 But right now, the person in charge of elections at the Department of Homeland Security is Heather

00:03:57.460 Honey.

00:03:58.000 She was a 2020 election conspiracy theorist.

00:04:00.920 She just recently said that you can take extraordinary actions, including seizing voting machines,

00:04:07.640 based on either things that they find from 2020 or things that they haven't yet determined

00:04:12.920 but will materialize.

00:04:14.460 And so, I mean, it's not just Trump's mind here.

00:04:18.240 The pieces around him to facilitate these fantasies into reality are there as well.

00:04:23.860 That's what the last year has demonstrated to us, and we should all just be aware of it and acknowledge it

00:04:27.920 and then actually start to think about solutions.

00:04:29.820 Tell us what you think right now, tonight, the situation on the streets of Iran is

00:04:36.640 and how a free Iran will make a safer United States.

00:04:42.100 Well, thanks for having me, Laura.

00:04:44.560 To your first question, I think in the 47-year failed history of the Islamic Republic, 0.97

00:04:50.120 I think the people of Iran have never been closer to obtaining the liberty they enjoyed before 1979.

00:04:55.820 Second, in terms of what may or may not need to be done about it,

00:04:59.220 I think your points about the concern about how the United States has proceeded with regime change

00:05:03.780 are completely valid.

00:05:05.200 But I don't think there's any circumstance in which President Trump is going to insert the United States

00:05:09.360 into the equation.

00:05:10.060 I think rather what he will do, and has done, is to set conditions so that the people of Iran

00:05:15.200 could establish and reestablish control for themselves and take control of their own future and destiny.

00:05:20.160 And I think he's done three critical things to do it.

00:05:22.220 He's applied economic pressure to restore it and to exacerbate the stress.

00:05:26.200 He's demonstrated they can't provide security and stability working with Israel in the Operation Midnight Hammer. 0.85

00:05:31.080 And lastly, he's been the first president to offer rhetorical support for the people of Iran,

00:05:35.640 and I think we're seeing the results of that.

00:05:37.120 This idea of Trump meddling in the 2026 election was laid out for me today in the Washington Post,

00:05:43.760 and they did, I thought, a great job of noting a couple of things.

00:05:47.580 He's trying to change how these midterms are going to play.

00:05:50.080 I say he's already started to do that because he's already meddled in a number of states.

00:05:53.920 But some of the things, pushing states to redraw House districts,

00:05:56.760 demanding to end mail voting, attacking voting machines,

00:06:01.040 seeking millions of voters' private information,

00:06:03.060 staffing the administration with election skeptics, as you just noted, and deniers,

00:06:07.900 calling out the troops who are right now on a lot of streets across the cities across the country.

00:06:13.000 But where are those cities?

00:06:14.180 They're in blue states, right, where the voting population is likely larger and going to turn out.

00:06:19.120 So if you can cut that short on the front end,

00:06:22.240 you have to worry less about it on Election Day on the back end.

00:06:24.940 Am I missing something here, or is this part of the authoritarian playbook?

00:06:30.680 Simone likes to give us the history of how they play the game,

00:06:33.960 but the reality, folks, is being played out right in front of you right now.

00:06:37.220 That's as well as right.

00:06:37.940 And we see this in international law, in the national arena,

00:06:40.740 Mike makes right power and the exercise of power to implement your ideas.

00:06:44.260 Why does that somehow not apply domestically?

00:06:46.040 Everything so far has demonstrated that he's willing to do it.

00:06:48.540 The one thing that I would add to that list is that the misinformation engine of Fox News in 2020 is quaint.

00:06:54.680 Compared to the environment that we're in now.

00:06:57.040 By the time we move into the midterms, Larry Ellison will have control of TikTok.

00:07:01.740 CBS News is no longer a fixture.

00:07:03.720 A whole bunch of Trump entities have been buying up local media properties and aligning it.

00:07:08.460 I mean, the landscape to backfill the narrative that Trump puts out there is way more potent than we saw in 2020.

00:07:15.960 That doesn't mean we're impotent and we don't have any ability to respond.

00:07:19.160 There are just increasingly few levers.

00:07:21.320 And so there I think, you know, now there's the so what comes in.

00:07:24.860 And that is, you know, there are there are a few senators that always express concern.

00:07:28.040 Republicans, they should be on the record now that they're not going to they're not going to tolerate this stuff.

00:07:31.700 They're not going to put out statements.

00:07:32.580 They're going to change their party and caucus with Democrats if they start to see this kind of nonsense.

00:07:36.220 They need to start drawing red lines and some political pressure for them to do it.

00:07:40.160 That's one lever of power.

00:07:41.400 It's not the be all and end all.

00:07:42.920 But we're going to need to start putting antibodies into the system because this is the reality that we are living and it's happening.

00:07:48.340 That's part of following the money.

00:07:51.460 There are evidently some disturbing tapes of A.G.

00:07:55.140 Ellison in meetings with people who donated to him, them calling for political favors to stop the investigations.

00:08:04.200 So we'll see.

00:08:05.460 But again, I don't want to get out ahead of the investigations.

00:08:08.960 It's going to be very methodical.

00:08:10.500 And Chris, I can guarantee you when the bear trap snaps, we're going to get these folks.

00:08:17.820 And again, we're going to follow the money, whether it's all whether it's over the two counties here in Minneapolis, St. Paul's or whether it's the East Africa.

00:08:28.800 And there's tons of luxury properties, cars that have been bought over there.

00:08:33.880 And how the hell did this happen?

00:08:35.820 How did it happen?

00:08:37.180 President Trump is outraged.

00:08:38.860 I'm outraged.

00:08:39.940 The American people should be outraged.

00:08:42.100 December read on consumer price index.

00:08:44.320 We're expecting a headline number up three tenths of a percent and it delivered.

00:08:49.120 That's exactly what we received, up three tenths of a percent.

00:08:52.920 Now, if you look at the previous month in August, it was up four tenths.

00:08:56.640 September was up three tenths.

00:08:58.200 So this fits right in.

00:08:59.920 If you look at X food and energy known as core on a month over month, it's a tenth cooler than expected.

00:09:07.160 It's up two tenths.

00:09:08.880 Now, if you look at year over year, up two point seven expected.

00:09:12.760 Two point seven arrives.

00:09:14.660 The one glimmer here on the year over year is the core comes in the tenth light expectations.

00:09:20.220 But the two point six level is where we've been.

00:09:23.560 And my favorite numbers, and they really are my favorite numbers, Joe.

00:09:27.460 If we look at the index, the index on the non-seasonally adjusted index, this started in 1913.

00:09:34.560 The index number three hundred and twenty four.

00:09:37.800 And why is that important?

00:09:39.600 Because once again, it's a new all time high.

00:09:43.380 Pretty much not all the time, but pretty much every month we get a new all time high.

00:09:47.880 Nineteen thirteen.

00:09:50.380 And if you look at the nineteen fifty seven rendition, which is the core CPI, it comes in at three thirty one and change.

00:09:58.880 And of course, that's also an all time, all time high.

00:10:02.600 Twenty twenty eight is on the chopping blocks as well.

00:10:05.520 I think the end game is to if we can cancel it, I get to stay in office.

00:10:09.580 And that's what Venezuela and Greenland and a whole lot of other stuff that's going on outside your windows right now.

00:10:17.220 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:10:22.220 Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on this people.

00:10:27.440 I got a free shot.

00:10:28.720 All these networks lying about the people.

00:10:31.700 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:10:33.600 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:10:35.040 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:10:37.660 It's going to happen.

00:10:39.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:10:42.400 Mega media.

00:10:43.300 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:10:49.180 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:10:52.960 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:10:59.240 War Room.

00:11:00.160 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:11:02.220 Bannon.

00:11:07.660 It's Tuesday, 13 January, Year of the Lord, 2026.

00:11:12.300 As we've laid out here on the War Room over the last couple of months, as President Trump and Secretary Besson's economic plan starts to kick in.

00:11:21.260 And you can see that it's getting traction and building up the radical Democrats, the Marxist jihadists that hate this country and have tried to bring in or did bring in 20 to 30 million illegal alien invaders will get crazier and crazier.

00:11:35.980 There you see it all night long.

00:11:37.360 It's President Trump setting the conditions to steal the 2026 election, the midterms, because now they ain't feeling so good.

00:11:43.980 They're not feeling so good.

00:11:46.760 I told you and told you and told you.

00:11:49.400 As the economy starts kicking in and we get affordability and all that crap off the table, right?

00:11:55.080 And you got growth.

00:11:56.360 You have GDP growth, GDP per capita growth.

00:11:58.960 You've got job growth.

00:12:00.140 You've got real wages growth.

00:12:01.800 They're going to get crazy.

00:12:04.300 They're going to get crazy and crazier and more dangerous.

00:12:07.700 And you're seeing it every day.

00:12:09.680 Let's get down to the Bay.

00:12:10.620 By the way, President is in route.

00:12:12.180 He'll leave here, I think shortly, or might have just left, to go to Detroit.

00:12:18.840 He's going to visit some factories and some plants, talk to some Ford motor execs, I think others, about manufacturing.

00:12:27.660 He's going to give a major address at about 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time, I believe, to the Detroit Economic Club.

00:12:33.200 That will be a major economic address.

00:12:34.780 And yes, the Secretary of Treasury is with him, Scott Besson.

00:12:38.300 I want to go now to Treasury, to Joe Lavonier.

00:12:40.840 Joe, I've got a couple of minutes on this side.

00:12:43.840 Just tee me up, and I'll hold you through the break. 0.66

00:12:46.120 The numbers this morning, I liked them.

00:12:48.940 I thought they're pretty good.

00:12:50.460 But it fits into the narrative that you and the Secretary have been talking about, about a disinflationary boom, sir.

00:12:59.860 What do you got?

00:13:00.660 Disinflationary boom.

00:13:01.300 Steve, the last month, when the data came out, the markets, investors were surprised that the numbers were softer than expected.

00:13:07.860 And the argument was that it was temporary, that you'd see an acceleration or a payback, if you will, in December.

00:13:12.780 That did not happen.

00:13:14.320 The core CPI, which strips out food and energy, for example, the three-month rate of change remained at 1.6.

00:13:20.960 There are a lot of positives in the report.

00:13:23.200 We're going to make significant further progress, which is going to take a little bit of time.

00:13:27.300 So we counsel patients because we had a mess that we inherited.

00:13:31.060 But the point is, the numbers on the inflation side are trending powerfully in the right direction.

00:13:36.180 And, of course, the boom aspect you see in the GDP numbers.

00:13:38.960 Near 5 percent private sector GDP, the last two officially reported quarters, the widely-fought Atlanta Fed has growth over 5 percent for the fourth quarter.

00:13:48.300 That would take growth for the year, despite the weak Q1 when Biden was in office, of over 3 percent.

00:13:54.420 So when we talk about a disinflationary boom, we're talking about surging GDP, rising incomes, and an inflation rate that starts to fall and doesn't preoccupy people's concerns.

00:14:06.760 Joe, hang on for one second.

00:14:08.060 We're going to take a short commercial break.

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00:16:29.760 News.

00:16:31.360 Of course, he waited until just before the show started.

00:16:36.260 But he's not with us right anymore.

00:16:39.320 I'm going to try to get through this.

00:16:43.320 He has a final message that he wanted to say.

00:16:47.240 So I'm going to try to read it.

00:16:50.240 Trying to be strong.

00:16:55.060 If you are reading this, things did not go well for me.

00:17:00.020 I have a few things to say before I go.

00:17:02.540 My body felled before my brain.

00:17:08.080 I am of sound mind as I write this January 1st, 2026.

00:17:13.560 If you wonder about any of my choices for my estate or anything else, please know I'm free of any...

00:17:24.560 or inappropriate influence of any sort, I promise.

00:17:35.560 Next, many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go.

00:17:40.920 I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk-reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me.

00:17:51.420 So here I go.

00:17:54.020 I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him.

00:18:01.880 The part about me not being a believer should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven.

00:18:11.400 I won't need any more convincing than that.

00:18:15.700 I hope I'm still qualified for entry.

00:18:19.880 With your permission, I'd like to explain my life.

00:18:24.580 For the first part of my life, I was focused on making myself a worthy husband and parent

00:18:35.860 as a way to find meaning.

00:18:43.800 That worked.

00:18:45.820 But marriages don't always last forever.

00:18:49.600 And mine eventually ended in a highly amicable way.

00:18:54.800 I'm grateful for those years and for the people I came to call my family.

00:19:01.840 Once the marriage unwound, I needed a new focus, a new meaning.

00:19:09.060 And so I donated myself to the world, literally speaking the words out loud in my otherwise silent home.

00:19:20.680 From that point on, I looked for ways I could add the most to people's life, one way or another.

00:19:33.300 That marked the start of my evolution from Dilbert cartoonist to an author of what I hoped would be useful books.

00:19:43.100 By then, I believe.

00:19:48.660 Let me take it.

00:19:51.260 I had enough life lessons.

00:19:53.440 Scott Adams, a real giant, died this morning, accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

00:20:01.100 At the end, somebody in the engine room has told me it's like the thief on the cross, right?

00:20:05.060 Very powerful.

00:20:06.980 Scott Adams, just a great guy, MAGA, and really had a lot to say about this movement and the president of the United States.

00:20:17.040 And his suffering there at the end, pretty intense.

00:20:20.520 But like he said in that last statement, kept his brain.

00:20:26.280 Scott Adams died this morning.

00:20:30.320 And we'll play that the entire – he's got a show going on.

00:20:33.180 They're playing a show, so we'll cut into that a little bit later.

00:20:36.900 Joe LaVarnier, you've talked about this strategy for growth.

00:20:44.580 I kept telling everybody, don't lose it, and people came out back in those elections in November, said everything in 2016 is going to be about affordability.

00:20:54.280 I said, no, it is not.

00:20:56.760 Just take a deep breath.

00:20:58.840 Don't get sucked into the Democrats' narrative.

00:21:01.080 There is a plan here.

00:21:02.640 It is a sophisticated plan.

00:21:04.740 And the plan has scale.

00:21:06.860 In fact, we're sitting here on tenterhooks right now waiting for the Supreme Court to talk about President Trump changing all the commercial relationships throughout the world.

00:21:14.580 And what we call trade and through tariffs.

00:21:17.800 Okay, but the tariff aspect, the commercial aspect, the trade aspect is one big piece coupled with the supply-side tax cut to incentivize capital to pour back into this country into high-value-added manufacture jobs.

00:21:31.340 Hence, why the president of the United States is on a plane this morning, going to go to Detroit, going to look at some factories and look at – because one of the gauges here is how many F-150s one can sell, right?

00:21:42.860 Maybe President Trump is going to see all that, and they give him a major address.

00:21:46.980 Disinflationary boom is not just jargon.

00:21:49.780 It is the concept here.

00:21:51.560 I want to go back and make sure, because I got Rob Bluey on next from the Daily Signal.

00:21:55.980 They've written a brilliant piece about how we get to a balanced budget, because part of the problem we have here is still too much federal spending.

00:22:03.700 One of the ways you get there is – wait for it, folks – GDP growth, economic growth.

00:22:09.480 This is a growth strategy.

00:22:11.200 Scott Besson, as a contributor here on the show for years, sat as a contributor and said we have one last shot to have a supply-side tax cut, which is driven on production and bringing manufacturing back.

00:22:24.740 A part of that – the key to that is growth, is GDP growth, wage growth, job growth.

00:22:29.480 What you're seeing now – and I want you to explain to the audience, because this is not a concept you heard during the Biden years, because everything was about this massive federal spending that got us into this hole.

00:22:39.740 The hole of inflation, the hole of this huge debt, the interest payments we have to make on the debt was all Biden, because the radical Democrats just believe in government.

00:22:49.820 They don't believe in private industry.

00:22:51.880 So tell us the difference.

00:22:53.740 The Atlanta Fed are putting up numbers that are shocking how good they are about private company or private market GDP growth.

00:23:02.020 I just want to make sure the audience understands the difference, because this will tee up brother Rob Bluey and his strategy to balance the budget.

00:23:09.460 Sir?

00:23:09.780 If you take GDP, gross domestic product, and you strip it out federal side, which to your point was booming on an unsustainable track over the previous four years, GDP in Q2 and Q3, President Trump's first two full quarters in office, the economy grew almost 5 percent.

00:23:27.300 GDP, excluding the government sector, grew actually 4.8 percent annualized over those two quarters.

00:23:33.180 Fast forward to the fourth quarter, which there was a government shutdown, and people worried the economy would be depressed.

00:23:39.880 The Atlanta Fed has GDP growth predicted at 5.1 percent.

00:23:43.780 But related to the president's reindustrialization manufacturing policy and tariffs, the trade deficit shrunk to its lowest level in the last month's reading since 2009, 2009, as imports plunged and exports went up.

00:23:59.520 So you've got the private sector, that means business investment, household consumer spending, in addition to exports, and a rejuvenation and revitalization of manufacturing that is driving growth faster.

00:24:12.320 And as we look to 2026, Steve, when the secretary talks about a boom and the president talks about a golden era, we're seeing it in these data figures, which are undisputably positive.

00:24:23.480 And the next piece that will come will be good, high-paying jobs that will be central to really restoring the economy from the sugar-high, unsustainable government spending blowout that we've had over the previous administration.

00:24:36.760 And, of course, the president yesterday putting out executive orders talking about how to keep electricity, the whole thing with data centers.

00:24:44.660 Because right now, AI, the only thing that would hurt on the jobs part is artificial intelligence taking away some administrative, managerial, and coding jobs for folks 20 to 30 years old.

00:24:56.700 And that's going to be an issue.

00:24:57.660 But somehow, President Trump and Besson will figure it out and work around.

00:25:01.820 Joe, where do people go?

00:25:03.400 Go ahead, sir.

00:25:04.260 Go ahead.

00:25:04.540 Yeah, sure.

00:25:05.120 I was just going to say, you know, you made an energy.

00:25:06.700 You know, people did not believe that gasoline prices could fall well under $3 a gallon.

00:25:11.160 They're around $275, $280.

00:25:13.060 That's a huge tax cut for businesses and consumers.

00:25:15.920 And the president's initiatives on the utility side should also help.

00:25:19.860 So it's all good news.

00:25:20.660 They can follow the Treasury Secretary at SEC Scott Besson at U.S. Treasury.

00:25:25.640 And then I can be followed at Livornianomics.

00:25:30.120 No, and the president's on a populist tear.

00:25:32.800 He's dealing with the mortgage issue.

00:25:34.140 He's dealing with the affordability of housing issue.

00:25:36.520 He's getting into the big banks about capping the interest rates at 10%.

00:25:40.720 He's all over full-spectrum energy dominance and particularly dealing with these data centers to make sure they can't come back on the grid and torch folks.

00:25:50.980 He's all over.

00:25:51.880 This is – President Trump is on a populist tear right now for economics, and we love it.

00:25:58.180 And there's even more to do, but we love what we're seeing so far.

00:26:00.460 Joe, thank you so much.

00:26:02.080 Thank you, Steve.

00:26:02.640 Thank you, Joe, for putting the intellectual framework, the disinflationary boom that you can see in the numbers right now.

00:26:10.780 So thank you, sir.

00:26:11.640 Appreciate you.

00:26:13.040 Thank you.

00:26:16.160 Rob Bleu, before you talk about the plan, we got a minute or so before we go to break.

00:26:20.920 Tell me about the Daily Signal.

00:26:22.360 It's one of the places I go every day.

00:26:23.960 We push the citizens-free press and Gateway Pundit, all the great sites out there that are free are not behind a paywall.

00:26:31.440 Give me a minute on Daily Signal, sir.

00:26:34.360 Well, I got to hang out with Jordan yesterday, Steve, from Gateway Pundit on the trip with Secretary Pete Hanks up to Texas, where War Room is now live and loaded.

00:26:44.980 So Daily Signal was started about a decade ago by those of us who were at the Heritage Foundation.

00:26:51.080 And then when Joe Biden and the folks in the White House took away our press credentials, we became an independent media organization.

00:26:57.600 But, yeah, we are free.

00:26:58.660 We make sure our content is widely available.

00:27:01.120 And our goal is to translate the policy issues that are happening in Washington for the American people.

00:27:07.260 And that's why we love partnering with people like E.J. and Tony, who I know is a regular on War Room, to help explain economic issues in ways that the American people can understand

00:27:15.860 and also put the pressure on members of Congress and other lawmakers to do the right thing.

00:27:21.080 Hang right there, because you take policy seriously as we do, and you've broken down.

00:27:28.800 How do we get to a balanced budget?

00:27:30.240 Because the other aspect, if you get this growth going, you've got to cut federal spending.

00:27:36.180 Somehow, by hook or crook, we've got to make sure we take care of these deficits,

00:27:40.400 because that's Damocles' sword over top of not just future generations, but you in this audience.

00:27:47.160 Now, more than ever, markets have been turbulent.

00:27:51.200 But, you know, it's quite interesting.

00:27:52.760 As I said, I'm quoted in Bloomberg today.

00:27:54.720 Yes, I am.

00:27:55.860 On the terminal.

00:27:57.160 I said, hey, the equity market and the bond market, bond market got a little choppy, I say, but no big deal.

00:28:03.160 I think they've got the back of President Trump on this fight with the central banks.

00:28:08.140 President Trump is not just about the inquiry into his testimony of Powell.

00:28:13.900 This is President Trump going full Andrew Jackson on the central bank.

00:28:19.540 Jackson did it on the Bank of the United States.

00:28:21.380 President Trump's doing it on the Federal Reserve.

00:28:23.240 Short commercial break.

00:28:24.180 Rob Blewey, Tom Fitton, Alex deGrasse next.

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00:29:59.520 Certainly the court could do that, Your Honor.

00:30:01.280 The court has not done that before, as I think we both agree.

00:30:04.220 And the result of that would be judge-made exceptions to laws any time.

00:30:09.860 Right now at the Supreme Court, there is a major case.

00:30:14.000 This is about transgender.

00:30:16.900 This is about guys in women's sports, not transgender.

00:30:19.620 Anyway, it's guys in women's sports. 1.00

00:30:21.800 It's being argued at the Supreme Court.

00:30:23.380 Terry Schilling is going to be on later.

00:30:24.980 In fact, we're changing out.

00:30:26.020 DeGrasse is going to join us tonight or tomorrow because we've got to get Schilling in here about this topic.

00:30:31.020 And we will do that momentarily.

00:30:32.460 Back to Rob Bleuey.

00:30:35.120 Rob, first off, lay out the case.

00:30:37.820 This is actually a proposal that's out there.

00:30:40.520 I think it's from the – is this the Republican Study Committee's take on this, this 10-year budget to get to break even in 10 years?

00:30:49.540 That's right, Steve.

00:30:50.500 The Republican Study Committee traditionally puts out their budget first.

00:30:54.500 But now you can expect others to start releasing their budgets as well.

00:30:58.420 Some individual members of Congress do that.

00:31:00.340 Of course, the president and the White House will do that.

00:31:02.940 And I think the thing that's key, as you and Joe were talking about previously on the show, is the uncontrollable spending that we've witnessed, particularly during four years of Joe Biden.

00:31:13.640 But, I mean, let's not discount George W. Bush and Barack Obama and others who contributed to this problem.

00:31:19.520 When George W. Bush left office, the national debt was about $10 trillion.

00:31:24.040 Today it is $38 trillion.

00:31:25.440 I mean, so you can just imagine what's happened in the course of those presidencies.

00:31:30.940 And the Republican Study Committee is vowing that they can get it balanced in a matter of 10 years.

00:31:36.020 Now, that's just making sure that there's no deficit, no more money added to that debt.

00:31:39.820 Now, how do we do that?

00:31:43.220 Now, the president just came out and said he wants a $1.5 trillion defense budget, of which we love the military and love the president.

00:31:49.840 We're not fans of that.

00:31:52.340 But let's leave that aside.

00:31:54.320 And the Republican Study Committee, people should realize it's a huge entity.

00:31:57.620 It used to be kind of the center-right.

00:32:00.420 It's not full MAGA because it's got a lot of, I would say, moderates in there.

00:32:03.740 But it's a kind of center-right group.

00:32:07.040 But for years, they've been going through this exercise.

00:32:09.140 And I think it's a good bellwether to kind of get it as a baseline.

00:32:12.300 Just walk me through mechanics of how do you go roughly from – we got five – you know, Scott Besson's the –

00:32:20.240 and we're going to have Tax Network USA on here today to talk about that.

00:32:23.600 Scott Besson's overseeing the IRS, and Scott's got a mandate to squeeze every penny he can possibly get.

00:32:28.800 But you have a $2 trillion deficit.

00:32:31.000 It looks like you have a five-and-a-half trillion coming in, seven-and-a-half trillion going out.

00:32:36.420 How do they propose to close that, sir?

00:32:39.640 Well, and first to your point about the Republican Study Committee, I believe they have 189 members.

00:32:44.860 And right now there are 218 House Republicans, so pretty much includes a vast majority of House Republicans.

00:32:51.820 And so by them putting their weight behind it, you would hope that that would signal that they're serious about cutting government spending.

00:32:58.280 But, Steve, you and I both know, because President Trump tried to do this upon taking office last year,

00:33:03.760 how difficult it is when you actually get into the process of eliminating government programs

00:33:08.960 and reducing that deficit that you talked about.

00:33:12.020 And so what the Republican Study Committee is attempting to do here is to go through department by department

00:33:18.480 and eliminate what areas that they think are duplicative, wasteful, try to find efficiencies throughout the government.

00:33:26.120 Obviously, the president adding this $1.5 trillion for the Pentagon will be a hurdle that lawmakers in Congress will have to overcome.

00:33:34.940 But I think just like you and I are expected to balance our budget on a monthly basis,

00:33:40.660 we should expect the same of our congressional representatives.

00:33:43.700 And Republicans have for years, if not decades, promised that they were going to do this,

00:33:48.040 all the way going back to the Tea Party when this issue first surfaced and became such an explosive topic among conservatives in particular.

00:33:56.000 I think it's really incumbent upon them to do so.

00:33:59.360 And again, to go back to the point that Joe and you were making earlier,

00:34:03.860 the spending that we saw during the Biden years contributed to the inflation crisis that the American people faced.

00:34:11.300 Now, Scott Bessent and Donald Trump have done yeoman's work to bring those levels down,

00:34:16.480 the levels of inflation down.

00:34:18.040 But think about how much more progress we can make and the economic juice we can give them,

00:34:23.020 in this White House, if we were able to also reduce government spending.

00:34:29.300 But isn't it a charade?

00:34:31.320 Because what we're seeing out of Minneapolis,

00:34:34.640 the federal part of that was all approved by, you know,

00:34:39.560 since Johnson's been Speaker and McCarthy's been Speaker,

00:34:42.820 since we've taken the House in 2022, there have been a number of budgets.

00:34:46.720 All of that spending, all that spending was approved,

00:34:49.960 including, I'm finding out now, the National Endowment for Democracy,

00:34:53.300 which has gone out of its way to shut down conservative voices.

00:34:56.900 I mean, just a horrible group.

00:34:58.240 They've got, in this budget currently, I think it's $350 million.

00:35:01.840 So how can people take credibility from the House?

00:35:04.420 And look, I'm calling the House now, I have been for six months, the Duma,

00:35:08.020 because it's just all performative.

00:35:10.400 How do they get around the fact that everything we're seeing with the Somalians, 1.00

00:35:14.840 and it's worse than that.

00:35:16.080 You know, we're going to have David Hoke on here probably tomorrow when he releases his new report.

00:35:20.160 The Somalian thing you see now, it's actually 10x when you look at all the programs, 1.00

00:35:24.200 and it's in every state, particularly California and New York, which is worse.

00:35:28.220 This is the business model of the radical Democrats, right?

00:35:30.780 They get the illegal aliens in here, they get these bogus legal immigration, 1.00

00:35:34.620 then they get them on welfare programs, they start stealing,

00:35:37.000 and this is their Tammany Hall vote-getting.

00:35:40.780 So how can people take seriously the Republican study committees, which I'm all for?

00:35:44.920 My point is let's do it in five years, not 10, because you're going to have the economic growth,

00:35:49.600 the GDP growth underneath it to actually make this thing doable.

00:35:53.840 But when Congress that we've had since 22 has approved budgets that have gone and led to this Somalian thing, 0.98

00:36:01.400 and the Republicans look the other way, you saw those fights,

00:36:03.860 you see them on the floor in the middle of the night when they're going through the appropriations,

00:36:07.120 and you've got Eli Crane and people out there, Andy Biggs,

00:36:11.280 the budget hawks, the deficit hawks, arguing we've got to cut these programs,

00:36:15.580 and the Republicans are worse than the Democrats, just kicking the can down the road, sir.

00:36:21.240 Steve, there's so much I want to say there.

00:36:23.000 So first of all, one of the things that first got me into this fight was the move way back when,

00:36:30.480 in the 2000s, when people like Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint and others were rallying against earmarks.

00:36:37.920 And we were able to successfully stop earmarks in Congress.

00:36:42.180 Now, earmarks, as a grand scheme of things, didn't really make that much of a dent in the budget deficit.

00:36:48.780 However, it was an important step because everybody talked about earmarks as the gateway drug to more spending.

00:36:55.000 And if you got rid of earmarks, then maybe Republicans would start to make other changes to those welfare programs.

00:37:01.360 You're absolutely correct.

00:37:02.560 The fact that we've had millions of illegal aliens come into this country and now take benefits that should go to the American people 0.99

00:37:09.760 is a huge problem and needs to be addressed.

00:37:12.260 But yes, even look at these recent budgets.

00:37:15.060 And I go back to a conversation I had with Russ Vogt, who was the director of OMB during President Trump's first term and is again.

00:37:22.220 And he said, oftentimes, the problem lies exactly where you just placed it, Steve.

00:37:26.880 It's with Congress.

00:37:27.940 They refuse to make the tough choices and the budget cuts.

00:37:31.400 And that has been a consistent theme going all the way back to when Republicans had control, even in President Trump's first term.

00:37:38.180 And so I hope that they can move at a pace where they balance the budget within five years.

00:37:42.700 Maybe we should demand that they have an even aggressive timeline.

00:37:47.040 Because it's going to only help President Trump achieve what he wants and Scott Besson have the economic growth that they think is possible.

00:37:57.040 I'll tell you what, I'll talk to you after the show.

00:37:59.160 We'll put some different assumptions in on economic growth.

00:38:01.940 And Rob Lui, Daily Signal and the Worm will come up with a five-year plan.

00:38:05.640 But here's where they catch us every time is when they want a defense budget increase, which is really the industrial policy of the United States.

00:38:13.000 Let's be blunt about it.

00:38:13.940 It's the industrial policy of the United States.

00:38:15.700 So every time we want a Defense Department increase, we've got to accept some percentage social program increase.

00:38:22.060 And the catch is you can't go and really look at the social programs.

00:38:26.560 That's the Democrat slush fund of how they stay in business.

00:38:29.820 If you choke that down and cut it off, they're out of business.

00:38:33.100 That's their business model.

00:38:34.200 So their business – a little starter cash is put up by the sources and those guys, right, and these NGOs.

00:38:40.540 That's to get the field troops out there.

00:38:43.120 But the way they fund it, because they're not going to fund all of it, is on taxpayer money.

00:38:47.320 And those taxpayer monies are all through these social programs.

00:38:49.900 And when the Defense Department – when you want to increase defense budget, sacrosanct is the social – as you know, Rob, the social program has got to go up.

00:38:57.240 But most importantly, they won't let you get under the hood of the social programs.

00:39:00.900 What Minneapolis is showing is the business model of the Marxists, of the red-green alliance.

00:39:07.620 It's right there in living color.

00:39:10.200 In War Room, Texas, one of the things we're drilling down on, we don't really even have a handle yet on what Texas – the state of Texas and the federal government.

00:39:17.600 There's one number out there that's $4 billion of state and federal money have gone to build mosques, Islamic centers, school choice for the Islamic thing.

00:39:26.800 That's their business model.

00:39:28.320 If we can lance that boil – and I remember, because at Breitbart, as you know, Rob, we partner with you all the time.

00:39:34.500 The fight – the years we fought for earmarks – and you're right, overall it's a small part, but it was a gateway drug to bigger spending.

00:39:42.360 Now they've gone back and they're doing earmarks like crazy.

00:39:45.420 So we have a big fight in front of us, Rob, but we'll partner with you because right now the reason the legislators don't take it seriously is that it's still financeable.

00:39:55.980 At some point – in 2035, I think, you look at the 10-year budget, it's $2.5 trillion annually just for the interest payments.

00:40:05.760 It's over $2 trillion.

00:40:07.420 So when this hits, it's going to hit like a punch from Sonny Liston right up in your face, and you're not going to be able to recover from it.

00:40:15.320 Rob Bleuett, your thoughts, sir?

00:40:16.900 Yes, and I think the other important thing to point out is that when you have strong economic growth under a president like Donald Trump and a Treasury Secretary like Scott Besson,

00:40:27.420 it's perhaps not necessarily the most glaring thing that's staring you in the face.

00:40:32.760 But with a Democrat in control who's only going to pour gasoline on that fire and probably not have the type of economic growth for our country,

00:40:40.300 yes, Steve, you're absolutely correct that it is going to be a serious challenge that we will have to confront.

00:40:45.340 And who is it going to impact most?

00:40:48.200 Probably those young people who are entering the workforce and are staring at years to try to pay down this huge debt.

00:40:56.420 You know, to go back to an earlier point that you said, you know, what's the old quote?

00:41:00.780 You know, once you have a government program, it's impossible to actually remove it or eliminate it.

00:41:05.620 And that is true, as we saw with Obamacare and these subsidies, right?

00:41:10.380 I mean, the Democrats put that into place.

00:41:12.040 It's why for years we as conservatives tried to repeal Obamacare and get it out of the government because we knew that this was going to be a situation where eventually the government would say,

00:41:24.660 oh, oh, we'll take care of you.

00:41:26.160 Don't worry.

00:41:26.700 We'll just put more subsidies on it.

00:41:28.080 And then you end up with a situation like we're in now where nobody wants to give up their subsidies and somebody is going to have to be the bad guy.

00:41:33.820 And too often that falls on the feet of the Republicans who, in some cases, are too weak-kneed to say no.

00:41:40.680 And you have a situation where it goes on in perpetuity.

00:41:44.040 And so I understand they have a narrow margin in the House.

00:41:47.380 It shrunk even more at the beginning of January, unfortunately.

00:41:50.920 But there are some tough calls they need to make.

00:41:53.160 And, by the way, Steve, they can start this month because let's not forget that the government funding runs out on January 30th

00:41:59.500 and there's an opportunity to make some cuts to the federal government right now, right here and now.

00:42:04.780 Let's do it.

00:42:07.440 Rob, we've got about a minute.

00:42:09.200 And Tom Fitton is going to talk to us about voting, cleaning up the rolls in 2026 and what it means.

00:42:14.420 So the great Tom Fitton is going to join us.

00:42:16.380 But I think right now we're heading to a government shutdown because I think the Democrats are sitting there going to dig in and say,

00:42:21.440 hey, we're not going to fund ICE.

00:42:23.120 So that's going to be a big fight.

00:42:24.420 And my point is bring it.

00:42:25.440 If that's what you're going to say, if that's what you are for, if you're for no deportations and open borders and all this,

00:42:32.560 because it's the heart of their business model, right?

00:42:34.300 Let's just get it on and come back with a bunch of cuts and show them how we can roll. 0.74

00:42:39.220 Rob Bleuie, social media, Daily Signal, how do people get there?

00:42:43.240 How are they following on social media?

00:42:45.300 Yeah, they can follow me at Robert Bleuie and certainly follow the Daily Signal at Daily Signal.

00:42:50.460 We are keeping it on.

00:42:51.340 We've got our reporters out there at the Supreme Court today, Steve, following the action there.

00:42:55.420 And all over D.C.

00:42:56.780 So thank you for having me back on War Room.

00:42:58.480 It's always a pleasure.

00:43:01.160 Thank you.

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00:45:29.000 Here, critically, everyone agrees that for sports, for 99% of men, it's reasonably tailored.

00:45:36.820 It's just the 1% of trans-identifying individuals who take drugs and then those drugs are effective.

00:45:42.840 That's the problem.

00:45:43.420 And this court's decision, Michael M. makes clear that that's not a viable as a plea claim.

00:45:48.260 In Michael M., this court upheld a statutory rape law that applied differently to men than women.

00:45:55.140 And the rationale was because women faced a unique risk of pregnancy. 0.69

00:45:59.100 But, of course, if either the male rapist or the female victim was infertile, there'd be no pregnancy. 0.90

00:46:05.180 So, on their theory, you could have come in and said, well, I have an as-applied claim that I was infertile, so it was okay to rape the underage girl. 0.87

00:46:12.740 And this court not only rejected that, the court said it would be ludicrous, ludicrous to say that you could bring an as-applied claim for prepubescent girls.

00:46:21.980 That's just not the way as-applied scrutiny works in intermediate-scrutiny cases.

00:46:27.200 That's equally true, as my friend said, in Wynne.

00:46:29.900 In the court's decision in Wynne, the justification for the law was making sure that the parent knew that they were the parent and had an opportunity to have a relationship with the parent.

00:46:40.820 But Wynne's father knew about the birth, was present with Wynne the whole time, and brought Wynne to the United States.

00:46:49.160 Nevertheless, the court held, for the class of men overall, it was reason-tailored, and they weren't going to focus on the specific facts of Wynne.

00:46:57.340 You started, Mr. Mupan, by saying-

00:46:59.380 Get Terry Schilling on here. 0.94

00:47:00.420 This is how insane these people are. 0.99

00:47:04.580 This is about men, these transgender freaks in women's sports. 1.00

00:47:11.860 Now, I will give you an example from my own personal life. 0.62

00:47:18.620 It's Moe as a little girl.

00:47:21.600 You know, she played all the different sports, and I coached her in basketball.

00:47:25.240 She played swarm ball or soccer.

00:47:28.360 Baseball, which she was excellent, made the regional team in baseball.

00:47:31.500 Well, basketball, she played high school for a while, but volleyball was her big love and being a setter, and she went to a school called American Martyrs in Manhattan Beach.

00:47:41.680 And Manhattan Beach is where Karch Karai and the beach volleyball Olympic team trained, so she was right there.

00:47:49.600 All the coaches at this Catholic grade school had played at USC or UCLA, and a lot of those people were either Olympic people or people had started at the top programs in the country.

00:48:03.640 So she was trained as a very little girl to that, and then she got started, and they had a championship team at American Martyrs for the Catholic League and for the State League.

00:48:12.540 And then she went to a big-time prep school that specialized, one of the big specialties was women's sports, and she played volleyball there under an incredible coach.

00:48:22.800 People would come from all over to play for this coach.

00:48:25.300 But in volleyball, as many of these sports, it's not really the school system that does it.

00:48:28.840 It's club teams because people could be in a school district that's just not going to be competitive with club teams.

00:48:33.840 And these club teams are as close to a professional athlete as you can get.

00:48:37.440 I mean, it is a year-round.

00:48:39.780 They want you to drop all the sports and totally commit.

00:48:42.240 And if you want to play at a big school Division I, right, you got to commit.

00:48:46.280 And you go to these massive things over the weekends, right?

00:48:49.000 I'm talking hundreds, hundreds of teams in Vegas and in Arizona and California.

00:48:54.520 And you'd sit there and watch these little girls and the parents.

00:48:57.760 It's a way out.

00:48:59.560 You see the Hispanic, the working-class white, the black, and it's a way out. 1.00

00:49:03.840 It's a way to get a ticket punched.

00:49:05.320 It's a way to get your ticket punched to Division I or some ride at Division II school.

00:49:11.940 And, I mean, great schools like the Lafayettes and the Hamilton Colleges, the Union Colleges, these schools back east that recruit these kids nonstop.

00:49:19.000 You go to the recruiters nonstop, and these kids are dedicated.

00:49:22.960 They put in hour after hour after hour.

00:49:26.220 It's intense.

00:49:26.940 It's competitive.

00:49:28.700 And you're building up the spirit of the American people in doing it.

00:49:32.180 This is the stick-to-itiveness.

00:49:33.580 This is the grit, this determination.

00:49:35.740 Are you kidding me?

00:49:37.720 You're going to let men compete with these girls as they're striving to achieve their goal? 1.00

00:49:43.220 It's revolting. 0.83

00:49:44.640 And I don't want to hear about some freak that thinks he's a girl. 0.98

00:49:48.120 That's his problem. 1.00

00:49:49.040 And that's his freaking parents' problem. 0.97

00:49:50.700 And now you've got to go all the way up to the Supreme Court and, like, give this official status? 0.99

00:49:56.620 Are you kidding me?

00:49:58.660 This is how insane the left is.

00:50:01.700 Naomi Wolf is going to be up here in a moment.

00:50:03.860 And she's going to tell you.

00:50:04.780 Is it going to get me?

00:50:05.800 I got Naomi.

00:50:08.100 I got you on for something different.

00:50:09.520 But go up and talk.

00:50:10.220 This thing is driving me nuts because I'm no feminist. 1.00

00:50:14.220 But I saw in sports the way for the working-class kids of all races to get a ticket out. 1.00

00:50:23.940 And to hear this thing that you let boys come in and compete with them, it's a freak show.

00:50:28.200 So why are we putting on these little girls, these becoming women, and the type, I mean, aggressive, tough, stick to it, just no quit, every American quality you want, right? 0.95

00:50:41.200 What Title IX was supposed to do, it actually, I saw that because my sisters, my dad was a great athlete, my brothers, my sisters weren't great athletes because that just wasn't the thing you did back then.

00:50:50.820 It's totally different now.

00:50:52.260 And yet we have this freak show.

00:50:54.300 And that's what it is.

00:50:55.260 It's a freak show.

00:50:56.220 Well, ma'am. 0.97

00:50:57.900 Well, I don't agree with you that people who identify themselves as transgender are freak shows or freaks.

00:51:07.860 I don't think that's helpful language.

00:51:09.740 Okay.

00:51:10.140 It doesn't help us understand each other.

00:51:11.740 Okay.

00:51:12.060 But I definitely think that men who are seeking to compete in women's.

00:51:17.140 We can disagree with that.

00:51:18.660 We can disagree with that.

00:51:19.760 But in my small McBrain, they're freaks.

00:51:22.600 But continue on.

00:51:23.680 I understand.

00:51:24.680 I understand.

00:51:26.220 Continue on.

00:51:27.540 Sure.

00:51:28.340 But I definitely think it's even more serious, right, than, you know, name calling, that men who are seeking to compete in women's sports are engaging in really abusive, intimidating, and inappropriate behavior on many, many levels.

00:51:45.580 It totally violates Title IX.

00:51:47.580 And then going down to the level of minors.

00:51:51.580 I think you are a feminist, I think you are a feminist in spite of yourself, Steve, because, you know, no one I've heard yet, outside of a very small group of women, like Jennifer Say, the former, I think, Olympian athlete who's been very vocal about this, has expressed so well what the injustices are, as you just did.

00:52:10.080 And, you know, again, in spite of your commitment to not being a feminist, that's a very feminist set of empathic comments you made about the struggles of girls.

00:52:18.960 And you're 1,000% correct.

00:52:21.040 It's girls from low-income neighborhoods. 1.00

00:52:23.560 It's girls from the barrio. 1.00

00:52:24.780 It's girls from, you know, middle-class, hard-working, working-class backgrounds. 1.00

00:52:30.280 And this is their one shot.

00:52:32.740 They're not going to come up with $60,000 a year to, you know, pay.

00:52:37.740 Their families won't pay for that college education. 0.95

00:52:40.160 If they want a college education, it's going to be through that hard work, that effort, that grit, as you put it, of playing a sport and excelling.

00:52:49.260 And the minute you've got a guy in a dress or with a ponytail or whatever de minimis thing, you know, he thinks he needs to do to be called a girl competing, there's the advantage gone.

00:53:00.480 But it's deeper than that.

00:53:01.440 There's the meritocracy gone.

00:53:03.180 There's her sense of fairness gone.

00:53:05.420 It's a crushing of dreams.

00:53:07.040 It's wrong.

00:53:08.300 Hang one second.

00:53:09.480 We've got a hard out.

00:53:10.480 You're going to stick with us.

00:53:11.580 We've got much more to talk about.

00:53:14.740 Naomi's going to get my mind right on this topic.

00:53:17.940 Naomi Wolf joins us.

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Bannon's War Room - January 13, 2026

Episode 5063： Populist Tear For Economics; SCOTUS Hearing On Transgender Athletes

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