Bannon's War Room - Episode 5081： Attack On Tina Peters; One On One With Deputy AG Todd Blanch

00:00:00.000 We believe that outside the United Nations, this is the largest gathering of global leadership

00:00:06.240 of the post-COVID period of time. For many people, this feeding feels out of step

00:00:13.600 with the moment. We hear all about the elites and how does that play out in an age of populism?

00:00:22.480 How does an established institution make a difference in an era of deep institutional mistrust?

00:00:32.320 And there's some truth to the critique. I believed in this forum for a long time.

00:00:40.480 I certainly wouldn't be leading this if I didn't believe that we can change and make the world better.

00:00:46.960 But it's also obvious that the world now places far less trust in us to help shape what comes next.

00:00:58.320 If the World Economic Forum is going to be useful going forward, it has to regain that trust.

00:01:05.600 Many of the people most affected by what we talk about here will never come to this conference.

00:01:12.480 That's the central tension of this forum. Davos is an elite gathering trying to shape a world that

00:01:18.800 belongs to everyone. That is why this year's theme is the spirit of dialogue. Because dialogue is the

00:01:26.720 only way a room like this can earn the legitimacy to shape ideas for people who are in the room.

00:01:33.520 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on

00:01:44.800 these people. Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The

00:01:50.960 people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do

00:01:54.960 everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:01:58.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul,

00:02:04.640 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:12.160 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:18.400 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:02:21.760 It's Tuesday, 20 January in the year of our Lord, 2026. So it's the first anniversary

00:02:34.080 of President Trump's return to power. And with everything that has happened over the last year,

00:02:38.960 and the urgency that President Trump has hit so many different kind of vertical sectors.

00:02:43.840 And we do realize that that's what we're trying to pick up, although they've had a massive technical

00:02:48.160 problem. Stuart Rhodes and his folks are outside the White House and they're arguing for the

00:02:54.640 Insurrection Act in Minneapolis. I think people realize that the Insurrection Act, the sanctuary

00:03:02.320 cities, that the number one priority for us as a country with everything we've got going on

00:03:08.480 is the sovereignty and security of the United States. And clearly, President Trump is walking

00:03:12.160 through geopolitically, geostrategically elements that he thinks important to that national security.

00:03:19.600 The highest priority has got to be our sovereignty here. We must deport the 12 to 20 million or more 1.00

00:03:27.680 illegal alien invaders that came on Biden's watch. If you don't do that, you don't have a country. 0.99

00:03:32.400 And you see what's happening in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, is that even trying to get the

00:03:37.120 worst of the criminals out there, these progressive and essentially progressive whites, these beta males 1.00

00:03:45.440 and these Karens, or what they call awful, these women that are just, you know, they're heritans. 1.00

00:03:54.000 They're just, it's amazing. They're just intruding and interfering in not just ICE operations, but the

00:04:00.720 situation in the Christian church the other day is beyond the pale. And you have to bring charges right

00:04:06.160 away. You have to, I think, uh, invoke the insurrection act and clean up that mess.

00:04:10.880 And then you got to get tough and clean up the mess in Chicago and in Los Angeles and in New York

00:04:16.000 city. This is not going to be pleasant, but it has to be done. That's the first order. And people

00:04:20.720 want to look away from it, but can't look away. The number two is you got to get to the deep state.

00:04:24.320 And of course we had John Solomon on here. There are things going on in, um, in South Florida.

00:04:30.000 There's other investigations going on, but we have to move more with the sense of urgency

00:04:34.640 and the sense of urgency is that we are burning daylight and they understand that. Remember

00:04:39.760 times on their side. Uh, we have, um, nor bin Laden joins us from Davos. She's an expert in the deep 0.82

00:04:46.720 state and what needs to be done to take it down. It shouldn't be lost on people. When I talk geo

00:04:52.400 strategically about this firestorm that's in Europe right now at Davos about Greenland and some of it

00:04:59.360 about Canada, it's all about, if you look at the Greenland situation, then go around to the Indian 1.00

00:05:04.880 ocean to Diego Garcia, and then go all the way around the Eurasian landmass to Japan all through.

00:05:10.720 And Scott Besson saying today, Hey, a lot of the terminal in the markets is because the Japanese

00:05:15.600 bond markets up in revolt about a new financial plan that this young female prime minister is 1.00

00:05:22.560 putting forward as she goes to a snap election because people love the fact that she and President 0.82

00:05:28.320 Trump are working together and she's got tremendous support. She wants to build a bigger

00:05:32.400 parliamentary majority. All three of those, the underpinnings are financial difficulties.

00:05:38.720 Um, the, uh, the one in Greenland is that the Danes had a massive financial problem a couple of years

00:05:44.880 ago that we were actually fairly close to a deal in the first term. Ron louder was representing the

00:05:51.520 country and the president and trying to negotiate that deal. It fell apart as soon as it was leaked

00:05:55.040 because Europe went crazy. You can't give up Greenland. The situation in Diego Garcia finally

00:06:00.000 today, the president goes, Hey, this thing's ridiculous. And that's part partly because the Brits

00:06:06.880 feel that they've got to withdraw because they don't have the financial. I mean, they're,

00:06:09.920 they're in a financial crisis right now. And of course in Japan, you saw the triggering of

00:06:14.000 least a mini financial turmoil and that Ursula van der Leyen gave this speech. She threw down. 1.00

00:06:20.320 I mean, she took part of that speech, I think from the end of the dollar empire.

00:06:28.720 That's why I go get it today. She talked about Nixon coming off the gold center. We make a huge

00:06:32.720 deal about this. It was central to Bretton Woods, to the monetary structure of the world's economy

00:06:38.560 post-World War II. And Nixon just kind of just, I shouldn't just say kind of, but it was over a weekend

00:06:45.040 at Camp David. They came up with the idea to do this and, uh, and, and to pull out,

00:06:49.440 pull us off the gold standard, which is what exactly happened. Even FDR didn't do that. It

00:06:54.320 was really President Nixon that did that. Ursula van der Leyen, she made the case. If you paid 0.82

00:07:00.320 attention to what she was saying, I'll play that later in the show, hopefully, uh, about a new monetary

00:07:05.520 order. Carney said the exact same thing in Beijing, talked about backing the Chinese currency,

00:07:11.440 his words, not ours. You see how these people are thinking. They want to take,

00:07:16.720 they want to make sure that America is not the power that it is today. Uh, and trust me,

00:07:22.640 you ain't running $2 trillion a year deficits, no matter how much the economy is growing.

00:07:28.800 You're not going to be able to handle that 39 or $40 trillion in debt. If you're not the prime

00:07:32.640 reserve currency, I know a lot of people in the audience say, well, we shouldn't have this puts

00:07:35.520 burdens for us to be all over the world. I agree with you. It puts on us massive obligations,

00:07:43.600 but just given where we are as a country, it ain't so easy just to pull out and not be the

00:07:49.360 prime reserve currency anymore. We have a big enough problem with the financial situation we have.

00:07:54.400 Scott Besson, once again, remember his whole thing was three, three, three, uh,

00:07:59.280 early on always supporting president Trump in the 2024 election with 3% interest rates,

00:08:04.480 principally a 3% G, uh, deficit to GDP started, they were inherited a 7% or 6.9%. The exact

00:08:14.320 percentage that France has right now, that is unsustainable. Scott said, Hey, if you really do

00:08:20.480 the math and in fiscal year 25, we're down to 5.4%. So the slope is important here. Um,

00:08:28.880 Larry Fink, what, what a beauty that, that open was from a year or two ago, but it shows you

00:08:35.120 how dangerous this guy is and don't pay any attention to you. You got to look below the

00:08:39.920 surface of what he's saying. And we're bringing Nord now. And here's one of the central things

00:08:44.240 he, he said today, because he's Mr. AI. Now they're all Mr. AI, all these progressives,

00:08:49.520 they were all the climate change guys. They were all the guys. You got to go to intermittent

00:08:53.520 power. You got to go to solar. You got to, I mean, Elon Musk is Mr. Electric battery,

00:08:57.520 Mr. Mr. EV, right. Got to do it. Got to have all this must do it. Climate change,

00:09:03.680 climate change, climate change, climate change, all of them, they were the worst.

00:09:09.280 And it had to be solar power. It had to be wind power. You know, it couldn't,

00:09:13.040 you couldn't have nuclear and you certainly couldn't be a burning gas. Well,

00:09:17.200 hold, guess what? Because of their energy needs, Larry Fink, we can get that clip

00:09:22.800 right again. You can't have intermittent power. Solar and wind doesn't do it.

00:09:27.520 Yo, they need good old, by the way, they'd burn the dirtiest coal in the world to power AI. 1.00

00:09:36.800 Larry Fink was central to ESG. He was central to the whole climate. Forget DEI, bad enough. ESG and DEI

00:09:43.840 combined, forget it. You have a different culture, a different society. It's one of the reasons in the

00:09:50.960 strategic memo that was put out. Civilizational erasure. Whoa. Up in your grill. Why? Because of

00:10:00.000 unimmigration and migration into their countries and no assimilation, coupled with policies that are

00:10:08.080 like cult-like in their bizarreness. Germany went from a major industrial power to that $1.1 trillion

00:10:16.400 of trade surplus the Chinese Communist Party has. So much of that dumped into Germany. Why? The Germans, 0.84

00:10:24.480 being the Germans, because there's a degree of weirdness there, the Germans wholeheartedly embrace 1.00

00:10:31.440 Larry Fink and climate change like nobody's business. They deindustrialized their society.

00:10:36.880 That's what Larry Fink was calling for. He was calling for a deindustrialization

00:10:42.240 so that the world could get along and we could have a group hug. He was dead wrong. And he admits

00:10:47.440 today or yesterday in Davos that he's dead wrong. Look, bro, those kind of calls are not on the margin.

00:10:54.480 These are things you can't walk back. So this is why he's a dangerous individual. Because he'll get

00:11:01.440 a half-cocked idea and some guy, because he's just a bond salesman. Larry Fink's no financial genius.

00:11:06.880 He's a bond guy. A bond salesman, like Howard Lutnick. He knows some similarity and just they're

00:11:12.320 always promoting. They're bond salesmen. So it's not like a, it's not like these guys are towering

00:11:18.960 intellects. Noor Bin Laden, you've been watching this crowd, dealing with them forever. Walk me 0.64

00:11:26.240 through your assessment, and that was a brilliant clip you had, of the dangers of the new mayor of

00:11:32.480 Davos, Mr. Larry Fink. I just want to say, Steve, everything you just talked about, all of it is

00:11:39.520 connected. And that speech that Ursula von der Leyen gave today was, I agree, very important. And it's

00:11:46.640 very important that the posse goes and listens to it. And she mentioned the Nixon shock of 1971,

00:11:53.840 which was a critical year. Coincidentally, it was the first year of the World Economic Forum. But what

00:12:00.400 I wanted to say is that so much can be traced back to that era and the following years leading up to

00:12:06.080 today. And that's also when they opened up China. And what I want to say about the second half of the

00:12:11.440 20th century, it is so clear that a war was declared on the US economy, and that the globalist

00:12:18.640 plan was, in fact, to displace the entire manufacturing base out of the US into China.

00:12:27.360 And they essentially made China the manufacturing superpower that it is today. So none of this is

00:12:36.480 coincidence. This has been very much planned. And what I found also interesting today is that you had

00:12:42.240 this key speech by Ursula von der Leyen. You also had a special address by President Macron and Vice Premier

00:12:51.840 Heidi Feng of China. And if you listen to this three speech, they're essentially the same.

00:12:57.680 They are in total lockstep, promoting multilateralism, countering the Trump doctrine and calling for

00:13:11.680 you know, and saying how essentially these tariffs are unacceptable. And it's exactly the same

00:13:17.680 messaging that they're telegraphing to the world via the forum, the World Economic Forum.

00:13:23.520 Can you hang on? I think we're going to go to Colorado for Tina Peterson. We got Tom Fitton,

00:13:32.800 but I need you to hang around for the bottom of the hour. We got a lot to talk about. And one thing

00:13:36.880 I want you to think about before we get your back, one of the most brilliant people we have in the

00:13:40.560 engine room, and these are volunteers who watch a lot of news and watch things that we're covering.

00:13:45.760 One of the most brilliant has spent the last day, two days watching Davos and particularly

00:13:52.080 the breakout sessions. She's warning that the public-private partnerships are literally has

00:13:59.440 not changed. In fact, they're getting more aggressive. And you're seeing a form of state

00:14:02.960 capitalism based upon the Chinese Communist Party model that she said is unleashed. And unless it's

00:14:09.520 addressed and addressed immediately, we're going to have a new governance structure in the world.

00:14:15.920 And you can tell already that the difficulties we've got with the NGOs here in the United States,

00:14:20.160 but this is far different. Anyway, Noor Bin Laden joins us from Switzerland as she keeps her 1.00

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00:17:01.600 When I go through, because I'm exclusively at Getter, I went through this morning. I see all my

00:17:05.680 Tom Fenton clips. The people over at Getter love Fenton and always putting this stuff up. So Tom,

00:17:11.200 you had one that might have been from yesterday you put up on Twitter, but I caught it this morning

00:17:18.720 about Fauci. We've got two things. One is two of our favorite topics. In fact, they're the two topics,

00:17:23.520 ladies and gentlemen, that we were banned in all the major platforms in the world in perpetuity.

00:17:29.200 Fauci and elections. Let's start with Fauci. What do you got for us, sir?

00:17:34.560 Well, you know, a few years ago, we got the statement or the plan that EcoHealth wanted to run

00:17:42.320 with the Wuhan Institute for creating coronaviruses. And they literally talk about creating, and this is

00:17:52.160 their word, not mine, mutant viruses to see if they will infect humans or what the potential for

00:17:59.840 human infection is. So, you know, when I was thinking, you know, we talk about gain of function,

00:18:05.040 right? It never occurred to me to call them mutant viruses. That's what was in the official proposal to

00:18:12.560 the government that was funded that later turned into specifically gain of function that they gamed

00:18:20.480 and ignored and continued to talk around and ignore and basically allow to continue despite the dangerous

00:18:29.760 virus research. And when you see them working with humanized mice to create, in these documents,

00:18:37.520 mutant viruses with the hopes of seeing viruses that are more susceptible to being transmitted to human

00:18:45.280 beings from bats, you got to wonder, is this a suicide pact we're in or something else? And, you know,

00:18:53.840 to me, they promised no gain of function. They were caught time and time again during the Obama

00:19:00.160 administration, during the Trump administration, as engaging in gain of function research. And that's

00:19:06.240 fraud. When you say you're going to spend money to do one thing, knowing you're going to do the other,

00:19:11.280 that's fraud. And anyone who was involved in that needs to be criminally investigated, including Dr.

00:19:17.120 Fauci, because that pardon, as we know, ain't valid. I don't understand why it's not a priority

00:19:23.200 for the Justice Department.

00:19:29.680 It's not a priority because I don't know if anything. Look, you've been fighting this for

00:19:33.760 years and they've been pushing back to you. Do you believe that the Justice Department is taking

00:19:37.440 anything about the deep state? Because Fauci is part of that. Do you think they're taking

00:19:41.600 anything about the deep state at the priority that that you and I think they should be taking that?

00:19:48.320 No, I mean, maybe they want to, but I'm not seeing any evidence that it's happening.

00:19:53.200 And I think they're kind of reactive and overwhelmed. They react to things. They try

00:19:58.960 to do things in response to specific public outrages as something pops up here and here and again.

00:20:06.080 But in terms of like the proactive, look, we got to take care of this gain of function,

00:20:11.040 make sure it never happens again, and punish those who created COVID because that's what looks like

00:20:16.720 happened. Certainly they were defrauding Americans by taking their money for dangerous research that

00:20:22.800 people think created COVID. We've got to have some accountability there. They tried to destroy

00:20:27.680 a republic last year. Why do we still have an FBI that is largely untouched in terms of firings,

00:20:35.680 in terms of cutbacks? Well, you know, and we could complain about the Justice Department,

00:20:41.200 Congress last week. I mean, didn't they just fully fund the FBI last week? The Republicans did

00:20:47.840 after complaining that they were being spied upon by the same FBI? I mean, it's it. You know,

00:20:55.920 what you're hearing is my cold, but you're also hearing my frustration. I can barely talk because

00:21:00.960 of it. Tom, talk to me about also it's it's not simply Fauci. It's not simply the deep state.

00:21:10.480 Now, we've heard they've got this grand jury in Florida, but that's only one small part of it.

00:21:15.280 Talk to me about also the election fraud, the ballots down in Fulton County. You know,

00:21:19.040 we're sending sharply worded letters, but there's no U.S. Marshals kicking down doors and seizing

00:21:25.040 ballots. There's no aggressive program to actually President Trump keeps putting on true social the

00:21:30.480 2020 election of stolen. We know that we were banned on every platform because we fought for

00:21:35.520 it. We fought for that. The reason you came back and had the greatest historic

00:21:39.440 comeback in world political history is because of that. The reason that we're commemorating and

00:21:44.800 celebrating the first year of your second term is because of that. But we still need to get to that.

00:21:51.200 We know we have the evidence. We have to get to the bottom and show to the public so that people

00:21:57.040 are held accountable who stole the election and it can never happen again for either political party

00:22:03.280 here in this republic. Tom Fitton. I think the challenge now is that

00:22:08.960 Harvey Dillon is supposed to be doing everything. Her agency is understaffed

00:22:14.080 in terms of having good lawyers around her. She doesn't have the team and internally in the Justice 0.99

00:22:19.600 Department. They really don't care about what the Civil Rights Division does on these areas. 1.00

00:22:24.000 So she's doing her own thing as much as she can. But it's clearly not all hands on deck

00:22:30.640 approach to uncovering this fraud. I mean, look, we were in court. We just got a Supreme Court victory

00:22:35.840 last week affirming the inherent right of candidates to challenge the fraudulent counting of votes.

00:22:43.600 You know, the majority rejected this Justice Department's view, which had a more narrow standing

00:22:50.800 for candidates that would have prevented some of the 2020 challenges from happening.

00:22:56.960 So imagine from my perspective, yes, the Justice Department agrees that candidates should have

00:23:02.000 standing the challenge of voting issues in court. But they don't want to get too broad.

00:23:09.200 They don't want to make people give candidates broad access to the courts to stop elections from being

00:23:15.440 stolen. I don't understand it. I really don't. And on top of that, we just found out that Oregon,

00:23:21.920 in response to our federal lawsuit to remove names, is actually going to remove 800,000 names from its

00:23:30.240 roles. And again, this is a year of the Justice Department. They filed suits to get access to records.

00:23:36.880 They haven't joined our lawsuits, for example, just to clean the records up directly, which is what we're

00:23:44.240 doing. I mean, is that why is why is Judicial Watch getting 800,000 names removed from a state voting

00:23:52.560 list a year after a Trump administration comes in with no help from the Justice Department or in material

00:24:00.000 help as far as I'm concerned? Tom, where do people go to find out everything you're working on over

00:24:08.320 Judicial Watch? We want to make sure everybody's up to speed on this. And it is quite shocking that

00:24:12.320 the Justice Department is not joining you in these in these suits. Where do people go?

00:24:18.560 They can go to judicialwatch.org. We're on X at Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch. We're on YouTube. We're on

00:24:26.480 Rumble. We're all over the place. And I suggest they start just paying attention to the work.

00:24:32.320 They could do worse than just to follow our lead. I mean, that would be exponentially better in terms

00:24:39.680 of results and reassuring people they're concerned about these issues if they just kind of followed

00:24:44.960 our lead on a lot of the disclosures that still need to be made and the criminal cases and such.

00:24:52.240 Judicial Watch. To me, it's just shocking that there hasn't been anything substantial done yet

00:24:58.320 on on the law fair against President Trump. I mean, it's not it's not a statute of limitations issues,

00:25:04.240 Steve. It's a political deadline they're facing. And it's going to get too late in the day politically

00:25:09.600 to get this done.

00:25:10.560 Amen. I couldn't agree with you more. Tom Fitton. By the way, Twitter, where do people go on Twitter

00:25:19.040 to follow you and your actions?

00:25:20.960 Yeah, it's at Tom Fitton. And it's at Judicial Watch. And, you know, with the biggest grassroots

00:25:28.000 group in the country and the conservative side, when it comes to fighting government corruption.

00:25:32.080 And, you know, I don't know if President Trump wants to get this work done. I just wish others

00:25:38.240 in his administration had the same gusto.

00:25:43.360 The same sense of urgency and that we're burning daylight. Shake that cold, Tom Fitton.

00:25:48.480 We can't lose you. Got to be ready for combat all the time.

00:25:51.200 Appreciate it. Thank you.

00:25:53.040 One of the best, if not the best, Tom Fitton. I'm sorry, is it Todd Blanch? Is he at the sticks?

00:26:00.320 Okay. Let me go to, do I have Apollo?

00:26:04.480 Let me get Apollo Pappas on here. And I'll play the clip when we come back. Apollo, just get,

00:26:11.120 you run Tina Peter's site. You do the show for her while she's incarcerated. Just give us an

00:26:17.520 assessment. Last night, we've been totally blocked out by the California Bureau of Prisons and Polis

00:26:23.840 and all this. You know, Jenna Griswold, that entire crowd. Yet they leaked last night to,

00:26:30.560 I think, local TV stations, some of the footage, at least it looks like some of the footage from

00:26:36.960 a Colorado prison. What's your assessment of that? We're going to play it when we come back

00:26:41.040 so people can see it in its entirety. What's your assessment, sir? What's going on?

00:26:44.720 Well, first of all, it's fascinating that Nine News, which is a lefty news outlet that likes to

00:26:51.200 hate on Tina Peters and anyone related to election fraud or President Trump, got the footage before

00:26:56.560 Tina's own attorneys. I did just actually get off with Tina and her attorneys, though. They're on a

00:27:01.520 video conference. So she gave me a play-by-play. When people watch the video, just understand there's

00:27:06.880 a moment just before on camera what it appears and what the news is trying to create is the idea

00:27:14.320 that Tina just charged out of the closet at this inmate. You can see that there's a moment where

00:27:19.120 the inmate lunges. And I just heard from Tina's own words that when that inmate approached the closet

00:27:24.800 that she was filling up this reservoir in, the inmate says, you disrespected me and starts essentially,

00:27:31.440 you know, heckling her. And Tina says, it's all right. It's not a big deal. Calm down.

00:27:35.600 And then the inmate lunges actually strikes at Tina. And after that point, Tina comes out. At 0.56

00:27:42.480 that point, you can see Tina's left arm is already grabbing the inmate's right arm. So contact was

00:27:47.520 made off camera. And the news is, of course, using it to make Tina Peters look like an aggressor. 1.00

00:27:52.800 But that's no surprise. They've done everything that they can to slander her

00:27:56.400 and the actions that she took regarding the image in Colorado. But regarding the charges and the

00:28:03.680 statements that have come out. Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, hang on for one second. We're

00:28:10.320 going to take a short commercial break, a minute or two. We're going to come right back to you.

00:28:15.600 Also, the great Ben Burquam is in the field, and I believe he's got Todd Blanche, the deputy

00:28:21.520 attorney general of these United States. All next in the War Room.

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00:31:35.200 Okay, let's go. We've actually got Ben Burquam has the Deputy Attorney General of the United States,

00:31:39.840 Todd Blanch with him. Ben, I'm not sure. Does Todd Blanch, do you have Ben? Not so much?

00:31:48.400 Okay, fine. We're trying to pick it up in the field out, I think in Los Angeles. So we're having a

00:31:53.760 little technical difficulty. Stuart Rhodes had a little technical difficulty today across from

00:31:58.640 the White House. We're going to get all these sorted as we can get them sorted. Let's go back to

00:32:03.680 Apollo. If we can, for right now, let's go ahead. Apollo, here's what I'm going to do. Let's bring

00:32:07.780 Apollo in. Pappas, can we play the clip? Apollo, can you walk us through the clip? Because there's

00:32:15.600 no sound. This is the women's prison, medium security. I guess it's almost high security 0.98

00:32:22.920 because it's the only medium security prison for women in Colorado. Can you walk us through what

00:32:27.460 we're seeing here, sir? Let's go ahead and play it. Sure. So here you can see Tina is performing 1.00

00:32:33.220 essentially porter duty and she's bringing this, it's a unit, a cooling unit over to this maintenance 0.77

00:32:41.320 closet so that she can fill it up because there's a water reservoir. So you'll see her open the door 1.00

00:32:47.200 to this closet and bring the unit in there. When she opens the door, she is pulling the unit in to

00:32:54.520 make sure it's clearing the door. So in a few seconds, you will see the inmate walk up to the

00:32:59.780 door and Tina's head is between that unit and the door closest to the camera. Right here, the unit

00:33:05.560 approaches and starts saying, you're disrespecting me. And right before she comes out, you can very

00:33:11.900 clearly see that the inmate lunges in, pushing off of her back foot and striking at Tina. So Tina tried 1.00

00:33:19.300 to calm the situation down. She pushed her out. Her left arm was restraining the inmate's right hand that 1.00

00:33:24.060 she was striking her with. And the other arm was pushing her back. Once she calmed down,

00:33:29.280 Tina disengaged and walked away. So they're trying to say that this was an assault and that Tina was

00:33:34.460 clearly the aggressor, but truly it's just an unfortunate camera angle. And the news is going

00:33:39.300 to do exactly what they always do. They're going to try to paint Tina as the aggressor and discredit 0.99

00:33:43.900 her, especially on the heels of the very damning, in many ways, appellate hearing that just happened

00:33:50.500 regarding her prosecution.

00:33:54.960 Okay. So tell me about the appellate hearing about the prosecution. This is where Polis

00:34:00.760 has talked about some sort of clemency because of the over-the-top nature of the charges in what her

00:34:08.860 sentence was. Now you're in an appellate court. Polo, take a second to walk through that.

00:34:13.480 Well, Polo said that the sentencing was extreme. Anyone with a pulse and IQ over 50 could tell you

00:34:20.860 that, given what happened in the case. But very serious issues were raised by the appellate judges.

00:34:27.280 And in their own words, they described very clearly the jury being misinstructed,

00:34:31.820 charges being read to the jury and presented in court as misdemeanors, but charges felonies.

00:34:37.740 The Colorado's attorney tried to defend the idea that you could be tried on one charge and convicted on

00:34:42.980 another if the charges fit. First Amendment issues, Tina's inability to speak to her intent, 0.99

00:34:48.780 which is important because it is not only part of the felony charge, part of the language,

00:34:53.560 but also because it was included in sentencing that Judge Barrett used to sentence her concurrently

00:34:58.740 to this massive sentence. So there were multiple issues raised in that appellate hearing that should

00:35:04.200 constitute a mistrial.

00:35:05.580 Yes, sir.

00:35:06.960 Can you hang on for one second or we'll come back to you? We've got the,

00:35:10.640 our own Ben Burquam is in the field and he's got the Deputy Attorney General of the United States

00:35:16.640 with him. Ben Burquam, what are you guys working on today and how did you possibly land an interview

00:35:21.720 with Todd Blanche?

00:35:24.600 Well, we're here at SHOT Show, Steve, down, supporting the Second Amendment, crossing the

00:35:29.700 country. But, you know, last time I saw Deputy A.G. Blanche was actually at the hearing in New York

00:35:36.600 City on the attacks on President Trump and all of that nonsense. So just a guy I've looked up to for

00:35:42.860 a long time. And now we're going after bad guys, going after with ICE and DEA and FBI and the all

00:35:49.560 of government approach. So basically going with the A.G. and talking about what they're doing

00:35:54.900 to arrest the bad guys and make right what was made wrong in the last administration.

00:35:59.460 Deputy Attorney General Todd, I've had the honor of knowing you for many years. A lot of people may

00:36:09.380 not know that you stepped up in the darkest days of President Trump, the law for against President

00:36:15.220 Trump and and stood up to defend him when the whole legal profession and the whole media was it was

00:36:20.880 against that. Just can you just tell us what did you learn from that? What did you learn about the

00:36:24.920 President as a person? What did you learn in those years when you were one of the few prominent

00:36:29.720 lawyers in the country that would step up in defending?

00:36:34.840 Look, the man that you see every day on TV is there's no he's not acting. That's exactly who he

00:36:41.220 is. And I saw that every single day when I represented him. And he would everybody around

00:36:46.060 him would be frustrated and would say, what is going on? What's happening? And he would say,

00:36:48.980 we're just going to fight, fight, fight, which is what he did. And you see it now,

00:36:53.440 now that he's president again, you see him doing exactly the same thing that he did for two years

00:36:57.920 when he was being not only him, but his entire family, our entire movement was being attacked

00:37:03.280 and assaulted by by the Biden administration and by the left. And you just were talking about it with

00:37:08.860 with with with Miss Peters. It happened all across this country. And so President Trump is the person

00:37:14.680 that represents all of us and that stands up for all of us. But but what he would say to me and what

00:37:20.140 he because he believes it is that it's not just about him. It's about everybody else in the country

00:37:25.600 that's that that had to go through what we went through. And look, Steve, you you talk about this

00:37:30.740 on War Room almost every day, unwinding that filth and unwinding all that, that everything that

00:37:37.480 happened over the past four years takes time and takes a lot of effort. And we've made strides,

00:37:43.080 we have a lot, a lot more to do. And so I'm out here at SHOT Show talking about what we've done

00:37:49.120 with the Second Amendment. We have prosecutors that we just sent to Minnesota for the past over

00:37:54.680 the past three days, we have over a dozen brand new prosecutors showing up there. Well, not brand

00:37:59.480 new experienced prosecutors, but brand new to to Minnesota. And we're going to take care of what's

00:38:04.920 happening there every day. And so we're doing a lot of great stuff. And it's all because of President Trump.

00:38:11.220 I want to make an analogy and you obviously are going to answer how you answer. But I see that

00:38:18.660 we're in the same problem we had back in 21 and 22, that there were a few courageous individuals like

00:38:25.480 yourself that stood up. And at the time you were not MAGA, right? I think you were actually a Democrat

00:38:31.500 at the time. You stood up when most of the legal profession would not. And I'm talking about the

00:38:38.180 major law firms would not. And President Trump had this situation. I had this situation. General

00:38:43.960 Flynn, many of the people that are at the forefront of this movement had the exact same situation where

00:38:48.780 we had law firms we had worked with for years because of client pressure. They couldn't represent

00:38:54.400 you anymore. It seems to me that we have one of the issues we've got at Maine Justice and the thing

00:39:00.240 is a manpower issue. And a lot of that is because I don't know if it's the Federalist Society

00:39:04.900 or the major conservative law firms, they're either not saying their best or not giving you

00:39:11.280 the resources that you need. And this is when President Trump is maniacally focused on the

00:39:16.180 blue slip situation. I think we've only gotten 14 of the 92, I think it is, U.S. attorneys through,

00:39:22.620 but also at Maine Justice. I mean, there's just a manpower problem here. You've got so many

00:39:27.680 priorities, right? Not just from the antitrust department, but everything with lawfare, with the

00:39:38.380 deep state, what's happening with this insurrection. We've got a press conference we're going to go to

00:39:42.260 of guys calling for the Insurrection Act across the street from the White House. What can you tell

00:39:47.060 the audience about the manpower constraints that you're seeing at Justice and quite frankly,

00:39:52.920 the conservative movement that is part, they were part of the problem back in 21. They really

00:39:58.320 weren't helping President Trump. That's why Boris and others reached out to you, given your expertise

00:40:03.240 and your toughness. We've got the same problem today, sir. Totally. Well, let me just, I want to go back

00:40:10.820 for a minute, Steve, because I've wanted to talk to you about this for a long time. I've been MAGA and

00:40:15.800 I've been a Republican long before I represented President Trump. I was the only, one of the few lawyers

00:40:20.540 that stood up to represent Paul Manafort in New York years before I represented President Trump.

00:40:26.820 I represented Igor Fruman in the lawfare against him in SDNY and then obviously Boris and then

00:40:34.360 President Trump. So the narrative that I just became MAGA, just became Republican is one spread

00:40:39.340 by the New York Times and Maggie Haberman. And so we should quash that because it's completely false.

00:40:44.200 Now, you are totally right. You could not be more right, Steve, that we have a talent problem

00:40:52.820 because people are still afraid to come work at DOJ. There are still patriots that are lawyers around

00:40:59.180 this country and they, I'm sure they want to come, but whether it's their mentors, whether it's

00:41:04.400 organizations that aren't encouraging them to do it, you're right. Like when Jack Smith was called to

00:41:10.740 be the special counsel, he got a hundred resumes day one. All right. I go everywhere I speak.

00:41:17.340 I beg young lawyers, I beg lawyers who are, whether they're district attorneys, whether they're just

00:41:21.460 out of law school, just out of clerkships to take a chance and come stand for what's right and stand

00:41:26.220 for America and stand for justice. And I'll say it to you right now, lawyers that want to come work

00:41:31.620 at DOJ or work at our U.S. attorney's offices, just email us and let us know because you hit the nail

00:41:37.680 right on the head when you said that because it's easy for the president to say that here's the 10

00:41:44.200 things we have to do to fix the justice system. But that takes prosecutors. That takes good, hard lawyers

00:41:50.460 that don't, they're not looking for their next job. They're not worried about where they're going to go

00:41:54.360 after they leave the Department of Justice. They just want to come here and do what's right.

00:41:58.340 And we're looking for them. And we have good lawyers. We have great lawyers. But we need more.

00:42:03.920 And so you're you're you're you're definitely not wrong about that, that I do see some similarity

00:42:07.680 between when I represented President Trump and had to leave my partnership. I've lost most my friends

00:42:13.800 and, you know, had to find lawyers to come work with me. No, no, no. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang

00:42:20.720 on. Hang on. But tell people that they've never heard that story. You're a very prominent guy at a

00:42:25.880 great law firm. Talk to us that you get people have to understand this. One of the problems we have is

00:42:30.260 that. And this is what's scary about it. The deep state in this kind of radical judiciary in these

00:42:37.040 radical law schools and now in these law firms, they think they're going to win. They think they're

00:42:42.560 just going to wait us out. Talk to the story about what happened to you when you went and this guy was

00:42:47.020 a president of the United States and about to start the process and the journey because of you

00:42:52.400 and your great work defending him against all odds to become the greatest political comeback in the

00:42:58.660 history, probably of the world. But talk about what happened to you personally.

00:43:03.580 So when the president asked me to represent him, I flew down with my wife to Mar-a-Lago. We had a

00:43:09.260 phenomenal dinner. He's a great man. He we clicked. My wife clicked with him. I knew that it would be

00:43:15.700 something that would work. I went to my I was a full equity partner at the oldest law firm in America

00:43:20.960 and I went to them and they had like a committee that voted on things like that. And it was more or less

00:43:26.980 two Republicans, two Democrats and another Democrat. And after much thought and consideration,

00:43:34.520 they said I couldn't represent President Trump. And I went home that night and I they called me and

00:43:42.040 they said, don't worry, you'll get other good cases. And I said, no, I'm quitting. And my wife

00:43:47.200 ordered opened up a law firm the next day. And President Trump appeared in court with me by his

00:43:53.820 side the following Tuesday. So and I've never regretted it. It's the fact that I'm the deputy

00:43:59.860 attorney general, the fact that President Trump won. I have never regretted that decision going into the

00:44:04.880 the because then we had Jack Smith smash us twice and then he smashed us again. And then we had Fannie

00:44:11.360 Willis smash us. And and I sat there for two years next to President Trump watching him. And, you know,

00:44:20.600 a lot of people may take credit for the fact that he won. But the only person that really deserves a

00:44:27.420 credit is him because he's the one as he says all the time, how many politicians get indicted six

00:44:33.140 separate times and still win? All right. Never happened. That's not the lawyer. That's the man.

00:44:39.080 And so he's great. And so I don't regret doing what I did. And now doing work at the Department

00:44:44.860 of Justice, which is a it's a tough job. And every day we're battling deep state. We're battling

00:44:51.680 years and years, even going back to Trump, 45 prosecutors in a system that isn't doing what

00:44:58.980 we need to get done. But guess what? We're here. I'm not going anywhere. And it's going to work. So

00:45:05.440 President Trump, you know, people have the highest regard for Grassley. But even his,

00:45:11.580 you know, aide to camp, Mike Davis, is saying about this blue slip situation. I know the

00:45:17.060 president's obsessed by it. Can you just give us a minute to explain exactly what that is? Because

00:45:21.040 I think people are shocked that we only have 14 President Trump U.S. attorneys. And I believe you

00:45:26.880 have 92 slots to fill. Can you just walk us through that for a second? Because I know the president

00:45:31.820 is saying this is one of the most urgent things we have and we should actually do away with blue 1.00

00:45:37.160 slips. It's it's it's yes, it's a very easy way to explain this in two separate ways. One is a

00:45:44.860 nominated U.S. attorney like Jay Clayton for the Southern District of New York. OK, this is a

00:45:49.420 brilliant lawyer who ran Sullivan and Cromwell, who was the confirmed commissioner of the SEC

00:45:54.640 under the first under Trump 45. OK, no issues, no blemishes, was on the board of Apollo after he

00:46:01.920 left commission being commissioner of the SEC. President Trump nominated him to be the U.S.

00:46:06.560 attorney in Manhattan. Senator Schumer and Senator Gillibrand did not give him the courtesy of a call

00:46:12.900 or an interview. OK, and and under the rules, if they don't return blue slips, Jay just stays there.

00:46:21.040 He can't go forward out of the committee. He can't go to a vote. They wouldn't give him the courtesy of

00:46:24.960 an interview. OK. And so what has to happen is then you have to have this system where the judges have

00:46:29.840 to vote you in and they voted Jay in. So we're OK in Manhattan. But you go across the river to New

00:46:34.720 Jersey. Every single member of the bench, with the exception of two, were nominated by Democrats.

00:46:40.240 Again, it's because of the blue slip, because if President Trump wants to put a person as a district

00:46:46.400 court judge, both senators have to return blue slips. And so in places like New Jersey, there are they

00:46:52.000 just wait it out. President Trump cannot put a nominated person that he chooses in New Jersey

00:46:58.320 in the district court, cannot do it because of the blue slip process. So what happened in New Jersey,

00:47:02.960 because of that, they're all Democrats. And so when Alina Haba, same thing happens. The senators won't

00:47:08.800 even meet with her to talk to her about her nomination. So she sits. So then when the judges go to vote,

00:47:14.240 they're all Democrats except for two. And so they don't vote her in. All right. So think about that.

00:47:19.600 Not only do we not even get interviews with senators who are supposed to be doing their jobs,

00:47:24.560 but the judges that are going to have to vote are all Democrats because of those same senators control

00:47:29.200 the blue slip process. And I love Mike Davis like you do. And I think he's right. President Trump has

00:47:34.240 said it. We have to have a fix. The blue slip process has saved Republicans too. But the Democrats are

00:47:40.000 so much better than us at using it to their strategic advantage. And it's working. So yeah,

00:47:45.360 we have a big problem with our U.S. attorneys because we we've nominated rock star, rock star

00:47:50.240 men and women to represent the president and his administration throughout the country. And in most

00:47:55.920 cases, unless it's a very red state, and with a few exceptions, blue states, we don't get the blue

00:48:03.200 slips. So Steve, it's a yeah, it's a it's a it's a big problem. I know you've got to bounce. Just last

00:48:09.680 question. How can this audience because this audience when it puts its shoulder to the wheel,

00:48:13.360 as you know, can move heaven and earth? What do you need from the war on posse? What assistance do you

00:48:18.960 guys need at Maine Justice right now to make sure that all this lawfare nonsense that went along for

00:48:25.120 years that came close to destroying this republic until quite frankly, Boris was able to put you and

00:48:31.360 together with the president and form a legal team that fought through what six different indictments,

00:48:36.480 92 indictments, 300 years in prison, just ridiculous. They want him to die in prison.

00:48:41.200 What do you need this audience to do to help you guys at Maine Justice?

00:48:46.480 Listen, man, I don't I'm not trying to blow smoke up your ass. But the only thing I need you to do is

00:48:50.160 keep doing what you're doing. I mean, we hear every time that you that you get your your warriors to do

00:48:55.920 what they do every day. And your show exposes every every corner of issues that matter to President

00:49:02.480 Trump and they matter to me and they matter to the attorney general as well. So I don't need you to

00:49:06.960 do anything except for keep on doing what you're doing. We hear you and and we're working. I promise

00:49:12.080 you we are not resting on our laurels. We are doing everything we can to do to make sure every one of

00:49:19.760 President Trump's priorities are are actually not only put into action, but but actually solidified.

00:49:24.640 So they they last beyond beyond the president. So. So thank you, Steve. I appreciate it. I love

00:49:29.600 I love chatting with you. What what what is your social media? Where do people follow you, sir?

00:49:38.400 I have a I have a X account and a true social account of Dag Todd Blanche.

00:49:42.480 Dag Todd Blanche, thank you for taking the time to do this. Ben, thank you for setting up. Appreciate

00:49:50.800 it, sir. Right on. Thanks. Thanks, Steve.

00:49:56.640 The problem they have, the central problem they have is that the Federal Society,

00:50:01.520 the major conservative law firms, let's say it exactly like it is the same people that would not come

00:50:06.960 and assist President Trump because they thought President Trump was done.

00:50:09.440 You talk about the dark days of of 21 being debanked and deplatformed the others that the lawyers quit.

00:50:18.880 It's not the individual lawyers fault. These law firms, the corporate clients,

00:50:23.520 I keep telling you the most progressive entities in this nation aren't the governments or the NGOs,

00:50:27.920 these corporations. The corporations came to lawyers that represented a host of people,

00:50:35.200 whether it's the president, the president, whether it's myself, General Flynn. I could go on and on.

00:50:40.560 Tom Barrack, I go on and on and on. And you got fired by your law firms because the law firm,

00:50:46.800 the partner said, hey, I got to do it, man. I'm you know, you're my client. I'm close to you.

00:50:52.080 We're personally close, but I can't do it because the executive committee of the firm is going to throw

00:50:57.520 us out because the corporate clients have told us anybody around Trump and Trump's people and the

00:51:04.960 people were regarding J six, the Tina Peters of the world. If you represent them, uh, the corporate 0.94

00:51:11.920 clients are going to go. This is the corporate America. This is how the system works, folks.

00:51:17.760 Now it just as you have the exact same problem, the federal society, the big conservative law firms

00:51:23.440 where you have the Democrats when they come, like I said, Jack Smith had a hundred resumes.

00:51:29.040 They ain't got a hundred resumes for these things. This is why things are taking longer. I'm not

00:51:34.000 sitting there going, hey, the priorities are not right, but boom, but boom, but boom. There's,

00:51:37.120 there's a lot of issues working on, but the principal issue, they're just not enough quality bodies of

00:51:42.080 prosecutors and people that go to main justice and nobody wants to talk about it because the federal

00:51:48.960 society has been the traditional powerhouse and conservative legal circles. And they've done

00:51:54.400 tremendous in the first term. Remember we put the, we put Leonard Leo worked with us to put the list

00:52:00.000 together for Supreme court justices. We put another list when I took over the campaign, why we needed to,

00:52:05.600 to reconvince people. President Trump was actually a conservative. We put up the expanded list of the

00:52:11.680 additional 20 of which surprise, a relatively unknown, a judge in Colorado named Gorsuch was on.

00:52:21.840 So, and Mike Davis helped that, et cetera. We have a problem. We have a massive crisis. This crisis is

00:52:26.560 we don't have the legal talent because the conservative side, they think Trump's just a

00:52:31.600 passing storm and they don't want to get involved. Apollo, one more time. Uh, we just got a couple of

00:52:38.240 minutes here. I want to take the rest of time and I'll get back to just have nor hang on and we're

00:52:42.320 going to have a five o'clock show. It's going to be incredible, but Apollo, give me just a minute

00:52:46.160 or two what we need to do on this Tina Peters. Cause clearly they've never released anything.

00:52:50.640 They keep it. Everything's silent. As soon as they get some video, that's kind of hard to see

00:52:53.840 and what's going on. They leak it to these liberal progressive TV stations in Denver, and they want to bury

00:53:00.320 Tina Peters. What they want to do. Remember here, they want to bring additional charges against 0.99

00:53:04.560 Tina Peters and keep her in prison for 20 years. They want Tina Peters to die in prison. Let me be blunt.

00:53:10.320 Like they wanted Trump to die in prison. Uh, Apollo Pappas, your thoughts, sir.

00:53:17.120 Yeah, you're absolutely right. First of all, everyone just bear in mind in, you know, in real time,

00:53:22.160 you have a hearing that shows on several points, each one taken separately that her prosecution and her

00:53:29.280 convictions should have been the result of a mistrial. And they clearly were, if you listen

00:53:33.280 to the testimony and the questioning of the appellate judges, I think it's going to be

00:53:37.680 exceptionally difficult for them to rule on anything else. Uh, they could potentially rule on

00:53:42.480 resentencing, but even that I think would be a travesty of justice. And if you listen to that

00:53:46.640 hearing and understand her case, it's clear that really what happened is Tina Peters is an egregious

00:53:51.040 victim of the weaponization of government. Second, perhaps only to President Trump and a few others.

00:53:56.720 On top of that, there is testimony from herself and a lot of details from violations of, uh,

00:54:03.360 rights, as well as administrative regulations within La Vista that have been handed off to

00:54:09.360 the civil rights division at the department of justice. So there's a lot going on.

00:54:13.600 We want to have you back on going right now. Where does the audience go to get all this information?

00:54:22.080 What's the website to go to, how they get the show, how they get more access to you.

00:54:26.080 We'll have you back on it. Go in detail where they go right now.

00:54:30.080 Tina Peters dot us for everything. Tina Peters for show where you can donate. She certainly needs

00:54:35.200 help on her legal defense. She has a lot of bills and there are several tracks that are going to be

00:54:39.440 very time consuming and very costly. You can follow me at Apollo Pappas on X and I do my best

00:54:44.960 to update on Tina Peters as much as I can there. But Tina Peters dot us is the place to be.

00:54:49.040 You're doing amazing work. Trust me. You're doing amazing work. Apollo. Thank you so much.

00:54:54.800 Appreciate you. I'll call you after the show. Um, nor Ben Laden is going to join us. Hopefully 0.96

00:55:00.640 not this evening. If I can't keep her up then tomorrow, Mike Lindell, a brother, uh, been a

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Bannon's War Room - January 20, 2026

Episode 5081： Attack On Tina Peters; One On One With Deputy AG Todd Blanch

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