Episode 5081： Attack On Tina Peters; One On One With Deputy AG Todd Blanch
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On the eve of the first anniversary of President Trump s return to the White House, former Vice President Joe Biden delivers a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. He talks about the deep state, immigration reform, and the need for strong leadership.
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We believe that outside the United Nations, this is the largest gathering of global leadership
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of the post-COVID period of time. For many people, this feeding feels out of step
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with the moment. We hear all about the elites and how does that play out in an age of populism?
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How does an established institution make a difference in an era of deep institutional mistrust?
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And there's some truth to the critique. I believed in this forum for a long time.
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I certainly wouldn't be leading this if I didn't believe that we can change and make the world better.
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But it's also obvious that the world now places far less trust in us to help shape what comes next.
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If the World Economic Forum is going to be useful going forward, it has to regain that trust.
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Many of the people most affected by what we talk about here will never come to this conference.
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That's the central tension of this forum. Davos is an elite gathering trying to shape a world that
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belongs to everyone. That is why this year's theme is the spirit of dialogue. Because dialogue is the
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only way a room like this can earn the legitimacy to shape ideas for people who are in the room.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on
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these people. Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The
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people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Tuesday, 20 January in the year of our Lord, 2026. So it's the first anniversary
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of President Trump's return to power. And with everything that has happened over the last year,
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and the urgency that President Trump has hit so many different kind of vertical sectors.
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And we do realize that that's what we're trying to pick up, although they've had a massive technical
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problem. Stuart Rhodes and his folks are outside the White House and they're arguing for the
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Insurrection Act in Minneapolis. I think people realize that the Insurrection Act, the sanctuary
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cities, that the number one priority for us as a country with everything we've got going on
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is the sovereignty and security of the United States. And clearly, President Trump is walking
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through geopolitically, geostrategically elements that he thinks important to that national security.
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The highest priority has got to be our sovereignty here. We must deport the 12 to 20 million or more
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illegal alien invaders that came on Biden's watch. If you don't do that, you don't have a country.
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And you see what's happening in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, is that even trying to get the
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worst of the criminals out there, these progressive and essentially progressive whites, these beta males
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and these Karens, or what they call awful, these women that are just, you know, they're heritans.
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They're just, it's amazing. They're just intruding and interfering in not just ICE operations, but the
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situation in the Christian church the other day is beyond the pale. And you have to bring charges right
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away. You have to, I think, uh, invoke the insurrection act and clean up that mess.
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And then you got to get tough and clean up the mess in Chicago and in Los Angeles and in New York
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city. This is not going to be pleasant, but it has to be done. That's the first order. And people
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want to look away from it, but can't look away. The number two is you got to get to the deep state.
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And of course we had John Solomon on here. There are things going on in, um, in South Florida.
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There's other investigations going on, but we have to move more with the sense of urgency
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and the sense of urgency is that we are burning daylight and they understand that. Remember
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times on their side. Uh, we have, um, nor bin Laden joins us from Davos. She's an expert in the deep
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state and what needs to be done to take it down. It shouldn't be lost on people. When I talk geo
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strategically about this firestorm that's in Europe right now at Davos about Greenland and some of it
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about Canada, it's all about, if you look at the Greenland situation, then go around to the Indian
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ocean to Diego Garcia, and then go all the way around the Eurasian landmass to Japan all through.
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And Scott Besson saying today, Hey, a lot of the terminal in the markets is because the Japanese
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bond markets up in revolt about a new financial plan that this young female prime minister is
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putting forward as she goes to a snap election because people love the fact that she and President
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Trump are working together and she's got tremendous support. She wants to build a bigger
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parliamentary majority. All three of those, the underpinnings are financial difficulties.
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Um, the, uh, the one in Greenland is that the Danes had a massive financial problem a couple of years
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ago that we were actually fairly close to a deal in the first term. Ron louder was representing the
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country and the president and trying to negotiate that deal. It fell apart as soon as it was leaked
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because Europe went crazy. You can't give up Greenland. The situation in Diego Garcia finally
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today, the president goes, Hey, this thing's ridiculous. And that's part partly because the Brits
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feel that they've got to withdraw because they don't have the financial. I mean, they're,
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they're in a financial crisis right now. And of course in Japan, you saw the triggering of
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least a mini financial turmoil and that Ursula van der Leyen gave this speech. She threw down.
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I mean, she took part of that speech, I think from the end of the dollar empire.
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That's why I go get it today. She talked about Nixon coming off the gold center. We make a huge
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deal about this. It was central to Bretton Woods, to the monetary structure of the world's economy
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post-World War II. And Nixon just kind of just, I shouldn't just say kind of, but it was over a weekend
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at Camp David. They came up with the idea to do this and, uh, and, and to pull out,
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pull us off the gold standard, which is what exactly happened. Even FDR didn't do that. It
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was really President Nixon that did that. Ursula van der Leyen, she made the case. If you paid
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attention to what she was saying, I'll play that later in the show, hopefully, uh, about a new monetary
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order. Carney said the exact same thing in Beijing, talked about backing the Chinese currency,
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his words, not ours. You see how these people are thinking. They want to take,
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they want to make sure that America is not the power that it is today. Uh, and trust me,
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you ain't running $2 trillion a year deficits, no matter how much the economy is growing.
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You're not going to be able to handle that 39 or $40 trillion in debt. If you're not the prime
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reserve currency, I know a lot of people in the audience say, well, we shouldn't have this puts
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burdens for us to be all over the world. I agree with you. It puts on us massive obligations,
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but just given where we are as a country, it ain't so easy just to pull out and not be the
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prime reserve currency anymore. We have a big enough problem with the financial situation we have.
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Scott Besson, once again, remember his whole thing was three, three, three, uh,
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early on always supporting president Trump in the 2024 election with 3% interest rates,
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principally a 3% G, uh, deficit to GDP started, they were inherited a 7% or 6.9%. The exact
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percentage that France has right now, that is unsustainable. Scott said, Hey, if you really do
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the math and in fiscal year 25, we're down to 5.4%. So the slope is important here. Um,
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Larry Fink, what, what a beauty that, that open was from a year or two ago, but it shows you
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how dangerous this guy is and don't pay any attention to you. You got to look below the
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surface of what he's saying. And we're bringing Nord now. And here's one of the central things
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he, he said today, because he's Mr. AI. Now they're all Mr. AI, all these progressives,
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they were all the climate change guys. They were all the guys. You got to go to intermittent
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power. You got to go to solar. You got to, I mean, Elon Musk is Mr. Electric battery,
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Mr. Mr. EV, right. Got to do it. Got to have all this must do it. Climate change,
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climate change, climate change, climate change, all of them, they were the worst.
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And it had to be solar power. It had to be wind power. You know, it couldn't,
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you couldn't have nuclear and you certainly couldn't be a burning gas. Well,
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hold, guess what? Because of their energy needs, Larry Fink, we can get that clip
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right again. You can't have intermittent power. Solar and wind doesn't do it.
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Yo, they need good old, by the way, they'd burn the dirtiest coal in the world to power AI.
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Larry Fink was central to ESG. He was central to the whole climate. Forget DEI, bad enough. ESG and DEI
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combined, forget it. You have a different culture, a different society. It's one of the reasons in the
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strategic memo that was put out. Civilizational erasure. Whoa. Up in your grill. Why? Because of
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unimmigration and migration into their countries and no assimilation, coupled with policies that are
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like cult-like in their bizarreness. Germany went from a major industrial power to that $1.1 trillion
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of trade surplus the Chinese Communist Party has. So much of that dumped into Germany. Why? The Germans,
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being the Germans, because there's a degree of weirdness there, the Germans wholeheartedly embrace
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Larry Fink and climate change like nobody's business. They deindustrialized their society.
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That's what Larry Fink was calling for. He was calling for a deindustrialization
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so that the world could get along and we could have a group hug. He was dead wrong. And he admits
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today or yesterday in Davos that he's dead wrong. Look, bro, those kind of calls are not on the margin.
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These are things you can't walk back. So this is why he's a dangerous individual. Because he'll get
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a half-cocked idea and some guy, because he's just a bond salesman. Larry Fink's no financial genius.
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He's a bond guy. A bond salesman, like Howard Lutnick. He knows some similarity and just they're
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always promoting. They're bond salesmen. So it's not like a, it's not like these guys are towering
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intellects. Noor Bin Laden, you've been watching this crowd, dealing with them forever. Walk me
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through your assessment, and that was a brilliant clip you had, of the dangers of the new mayor of
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Davos, Mr. Larry Fink. I just want to say, Steve, everything you just talked about, all of it is
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connected. And that speech that Ursula von der Leyen gave today was, I agree, very important. And it's
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very important that the posse goes and listens to it. And she mentioned the Nixon shock of 1971,
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which was a critical year. Coincidentally, it was the first year of the World Economic Forum. But what
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I wanted to say is that so much can be traced back to that era and the following years leading up to
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today. And that's also when they opened up China. And what I want to say about the second half of the
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20th century, it is so clear that a war was declared on the US economy, and that the globalist
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plan was, in fact, to displace the entire manufacturing base out of the US into China.
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And they essentially made China the manufacturing superpower that it is today. So none of this is
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coincidence. This has been very much planned. And what I found also interesting today is that you had
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this key speech by Ursula von der Leyen. You also had a special address by President Macron and Vice Premier
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Heidi Feng of China. And if you listen to this three speech, they're essentially the same.
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They are in total lockstep, promoting multilateralism, countering the Trump doctrine and calling for
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you know, and saying how essentially these tariffs are unacceptable. And it's exactly the same
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messaging that they're telegraphing to the world via the forum, the World Economic Forum.
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Can you hang on? I think we're going to go to Colorado for Tina Peterson. We got Tom Fitton,
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but I need you to hang around for the bottom of the hour. We got a lot to talk about. And one thing
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I want you to think about before we get your back, one of the most brilliant people we have in the
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One of the most brilliant has spent the last day, two days watching Davos and particularly
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the breakout sessions. She's warning that the public-private partnerships are literally has
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not changed. In fact, they're getting more aggressive. And you're seeing a form of state
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capitalism based upon the Chinese Communist Party model that she said is unleashed. And unless it's
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addressed and addressed immediately, we're going to have a new governance structure in the world.
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When I go through, because I'm exclusively at Getter, I went through this morning. I see all my
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Tom Fenton clips. The people over at Getter love Fenton and always putting this stuff up. So Tom,
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you had one that might have been from yesterday you put up on Twitter, but I caught it this morning
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about Fauci. We've got two things. One is two of our favorite topics. In fact, they're the two topics,
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ladies and gentlemen, that we were banned in all the major platforms in the world in perpetuity.
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Fauci and elections. Let's start with Fauci. What do you got for us, sir?
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Well, you know, a few years ago, we got the statement or the plan that EcoHealth wanted to run
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with the Wuhan Institute for creating coronaviruses. And they literally talk about creating, and this is
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their word, not mine, mutant viruses to see if they will infect humans or what the potential for
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human infection is. So, you know, when I was thinking, you know, we talk about gain of function,
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right? It never occurred to me to call them mutant viruses. That's what was in the official proposal to
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the government that was funded that later turned into specifically gain of function that they gamed
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and ignored and continued to talk around and ignore and basically allow to continue despite the dangerous
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virus research. And when you see them working with humanized mice to create, in these documents,
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mutant viruses with the hopes of seeing viruses that are more susceptible to being transmitted to human
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beings from bats, you got to wonder, is this a suicide pact we're in or something else? And, you know,
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to me, they promised no gain of function. They were caught time and time again during the Obama
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administration, during the Trump administration, as engaging in gain of function research. And that's
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fraud. When you say you're going to spend money to do one thing, knowing you're going to do the other,
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that's fraud. And anyone who was involved in that needs to be criminally investigated, including Dr.
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Fauci, because that pardon, as we know, ain't valid. I don't understand why it's not a priority
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It's not a priority because I don't know if anything. Look, you've been fighting this for
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years and they've been pushing back to you. Do you believe that the Justice Department is taking
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anything about the deep state? Because Fauci is part of that. Do you think they're taking
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anything about the deep state at the priority that that you and I think they should be taking that?
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No, I mean, maybe they want to, but I'm not seeing any evidence that it's happening.
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And I think they're kind of reactive and overwhelmed. They react to things. They try
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to do things in response to specific public outrages as something pops up here and here and again.
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But in terms of like the proactive, look, we got to take care of this gain of function,
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make sure it never happens again, and punish those who created COVID because that's what looks like
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happened. Certainly they were defrauding Americans by taking their money for dangerous research that
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people think created COVID. We've got to have some accountability there. They tried to destroy
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a republic last year. Why do we still have an FBI that is largely untouched in terms of firings,
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in terms of cutbacks? Well, you know, and we could complain about the Justice Department,
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Congress last week. I mean, didn't they just fully fund the FBI last week? The Republicans did
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after complaining that they were being spied upon by the same FBI? I mean, it's it. You know,
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what you're hearing is my cold, but you're also hearing my frustration. I can barely talk because
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of it. Tom, talk to me about also it's it's not simply Fauci. It's not simply the deep state.
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Now, we've heard they've got this grand jury in Florida, but that's only one small part of it.
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Talk to me about also the election fraud, the ballots down in Fulton County. You know,
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we're sending sharply worded letters, but there's no U.S. Marshals kicking down doors and seizing
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ballots. There's no aggressive program to actually President Trump keeps putting on true social the
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2020 election of stolen. We know that we were banned on every platform because we fought for
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it. We fought for that. The reason you came back and had the greatest historic
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comeback in world political history is because of that. The reason that we're commemorating and
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celebrating the first year of your second term is because of that. But we still need to get to that.
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We know we have the evidence. We have to get to the bottom and show to the public so that people
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are held accountable who stole the election and it can never happen again for either political party
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here in this republic. Tom Fitton. I think the challenge now is that
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Harvey Dillon is supposed to be doing everything. Her agency is understaffed
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in terms of having good lawyers around her. She doesn't have the team and internally in the Justice
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Department. They really don't care about what the Civil Rights Division does on these areas.
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So she's doing her own thing as much as she can. But it's clearly not all hands on deck
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approach to uncovering this fraud. I mean, look, we were in court. We just got a Supreme Court victory
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last week affirming the inherent right of candidates to challenge the fraudulent counting of votes.
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You know, the majority rejected this Justice Department's view, which had a more narrow standing
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for candidates that would have prevented some of the 2020 challenges from happening.
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So imagine from my perspective, yes, the Justice Department agrees that candidates should have
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standing the challenge of voting issues in court. But they don't want to get too broad.
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They don't want to make people give candidates broad access to the courts to stop elections from being
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stolen. I don't understand it. I really don't. And on top of that, we just found out that Oregon,
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in response to our federal lawsuit to remove names, is actually going to remove 800,000 names from its
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roles. And again, this is a year of the Justice Department. They filed suits to get access to records.
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They haven't joined our lawsuits, for example, just to clean the records up directly, which is what we're
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doing. I mean, is that why is why is Judicial Watch getting 800,000 names removed from a state voting
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list a year after a Trump administration comes in with no help from the Justice Department or in material
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help as far as I'm concerned? Tom, where do people go to find out everything you're working on over
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Judicial Watch? We want to make sure everybody's up to speed on this. And it is quite shocking that
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the Justice Department is not joining you in these in these suits. Where do people go?
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They can go to judicialwatch.org. We're on X at Tom Fitton at Judicial Watch. We're on YouTube. We're on
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Rumble. We're all over the place. And I suggest they start just paying attention to the work.
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They could do worse than just to follow our lead. I mean, that would be exponentially better in terms
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of results and reassuring people they're concerned about these issues if they just kind of followed
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our lead on a lot of the disclosures that still need to be made and the criminal cases and such.
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Judicial Watch. To me, it's just shocking that there hasn't been anything substantial done yet
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on on the law fair against President Trump. I mean, it's not it's not a statute of limitations issues,
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Steve. It's a political deadline they're facing. And it's going to get too late in the day politically
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Amen. I couldn't agree with you more. Tom Fitton. By the way, Twitter, where do people go on Twitter
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Yeah, it's at Tom Fitton. And it's at Judicial Watch. And, you know, with the biggest grassroots
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group in the country and the conservative side, when it comes to fighting government corruption.
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And, you know, I don't know if President Trump wants to get this work done. I just wish others
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The same sense of urgency and that we're burning daylight. Shake that cold, Tom Fitton.
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We can't lose you. Got to be ready for combat all the time.
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One of the best, if not the best, Tom Fitton. I'm sorry, is it Todd Blanch? Is he at the sticks?
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Let me get Apollo Pappas on here. And I'll play the clip when we come back. Apollo, just get,
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you run Tina Peter's site. You do the show for her while she's incarcerated. Just give us an
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assessment. Last night, we've been totally blocked out by the California Bureau of Prisons and Polis
00:26:23.840
and all this. You know, Jenna Griswold, that entire crowd. Yet they leaked last night to,
00:26:30.560
I think, local TV stations, some of the footage, at least it looks like some of the footage from
00:26:36.960
a Colorado prison. What's your assessment of that? We're going to play it when we come back
00:26:41.040
so people can see it in its entirety. What's your assessment, sir? What's going on?
00:26:44.720
Well, first of all, it's fascinating that Nine News, which is a lefty news outlet that likes to
00:26:51.200
hate on Tina Peters and anyone related to election fraud or President Trump, got the footage before
00:26:56.560
Tina's own attorneys. I did just actually get off with Tina and her attorneys, though. They're on a
00:27:01.520
video conference. So she gave me a play-by-play. When people watch the video, just understand there's
00:27:06.880
a moment just before on camera what it appears and what the news is trying to create is the idea
00:27:14.320
that Tina just charged out of the closet at this inmate. You can see that there's a moment where
00:27:19.120
the inmate lunges. And I just heard from Tina's own words that when that inmate approached the closet
00:27:24.800
that she was filling up this reservoir in, the inmate says, you disrespected me and starts essentially,
00:27:31.440
you know, heckling her. And Tina says, it's all right. It's not a big deal. Calm down.
00:27:35.600
And then the inmate lunges actually strikes at Tina. And after that point, Tina comes out. At
00:27:42.480
that point, you can see Tina's left arm is already grabbing the inmate's right arm. So contact was
00:27:47.520
made off camera. And the news is, of course, using it to make Tina Peters look like an aggressor.
00:27:52.800
But that's no surprise. They've done everything that they can to slander her
00:27:56.400
and the actions that she took regarding the image in Colorado. But regarding the charges and the
00:28:03.680
statements that have come out. Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, hang on for one second. We're
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00:28:21.520
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Okay, let's go. We've actually got Ben Burquam has the Deputy Attorney General of the United States,
00:31:39.840
Todd Blanch with him. Ben, I'm not sure. Does Todd Blanch, do you have Ben? Not so much?
00:31:48.400
Okay, fine. We're trying to pick it up in the field out, I think in Los Angeles. So we're having a
00:31:53.760
little technical difficulty. Stuart Rhodes had a little technical difficulty today across from
00:31:58.640
the White House. We're going to get all these sorted as we can get them sorted. Let's go back to
00:32:03.680
Apollo. If we can, for right now, let's go ahead. Apollo, here's what I'm going to do. Let's bring
00:32:07.780
Apollo in. Pappas, can we play the clip? Apollo, can you walk us through the clip? Because there's
00:32:15.600
no sound. This is the women's prison, medium security. I guess it's almost high security
00:32:22.920
because it's the only medium security prison for women in Colorado. Can you walk us through what
00:32:27.460
we're seeing here, sir? Let's go ahead and play it. Sure. So here you can see Tina is performing
00:32:33.220
essentially porter duty and she's bringing this, it's a unit, a cooling unit over to this maintenance
00:32:41.320
closet so that she can fill it up because there's a water reservoir. So you'll see her open the door
00:32:47.200
to this closet and bring the unit in there. When she opens the door, she is pulling the unit in to
00:32:54.520
make sure it's clearing the door. So in a few seconds, you will see the inmate walk up to the
00:32:59.780
door and Tina's head is between that unit and the door closest to the camera. Right here, the unit
00:33:05.560
approaches and starts saying, you're disrespecting me. And right before she comes out, you can very
00:33:11.900
clearly see that the inmate lunges in, pushing off of her back foot and striking at Tina. So Tina tried
00:33:19.300
to calm the situation down. She pushed her out. Her left arm was restraining the inmate's right hand that
00:33:24.060
she was striking her with. And the other arm was pushing her back. Once she calmed down,
00:33:29.280
Tina disengaged and walked away. So they're trying to say that this was an assault and that Tina was
00:33:34.460
clearly the aggressor, but truly it's just an unfortunate camera angle. And the news is going
00:33:39.300
to do exactly what they always do. They're going to try to paint Tina as the aggressor and discredit
00:33:43.900
her, especially on the heels of the very damning, in many ways, appellate hearing that just happened
00:33:54.960
Okay. So tell me about the appellate hearing about the prosecution. This is where Polis
00:34:00.760
has talked about some sort of clemency because of the over-the-top nature of the charges in what her
00:34:08.860
sentence was. Now you're in an appellate court. Polo, take a second to walk through that.
00:34:13.480
Well, Polo said that the sentencing was extreme. Anyone with a pulse and IQ over 50 could tell you
00:34:20.860
that, given what happened in the case. But very serious issues were raised by the appellate judges.
00:34:27.280
And in their own words, they described very clearly the jury being misinstructed,
00:34:31.820
charges being read to the jury and presented in court as misdemeanors, but charges felonies.
00:34:37.740
The Colorado's attorney tried to defend the idea that you could be tried on one charge and convicted on
00:34:42.980
another if the charges fit. First Amendment issues, Tina's inability to speak to her intent,
00:34:48.780
which is important because it is not only part of the felony charge, part of the language,
00:34:53.560
but also because it was included in sentencing that Judge Barrett used to sentence her concurrently
00:34:58.740
to this massive sentence. So there were multiple issues raised in that appellate hearing that should
00:35:06.960
Can you hang on for one second or we'll come back to you? We've got the,
00:35:10.640
our own Ben Burquam is in the field and he's got the Deputy Attorney General of the United States
00:35:16.640
with him. Ben Burquam, what are you guys working on today and how did you possibly land an interview
00:35:24.600
Well, we're here at SHOT Show, Steve, down, supporting the Second Amendment, crossing the
00:35:29.700
country. But, you know, last time I saw Deputy A.G. Blanche was actually at the hearing in New York
00:35:36.600
City on the attacks on President Trump and all of that nonsense. So just a guy I've looked up to for
00:35:42.860
a long time. And now we're going after bad guys, going after with ICE and DEA and FBI and the all
00:35:49.560
of government approach. So basically going with the A.G. and talking about what they're doing
00:35:54.900
to arrest the bad guys and make right what was made wrong in the last administration.
00:35:59.460
Deputy Attorney General Todd, I've had the honor of knowing you for many years. A lot of people may
00:36:09.380
not know that you stepped up in the darkest days of President Trump, the law for against President
00:36:15.220
Trump and and stood up to defend him when the whole legal profession and the whole media was it was
00:36:20.880
against that. Just can you just tell us what did you learn from that? What did you learn about the
00:36:24.920
President as a person? What did you learn in those years when you were one of the few prominent
00:36:29.720
lawyers in the country that would step up in defending?
00:36:34.840
Look, the man that you see every day on TV is there's no he's not acting. That's exactly who he
00:36:41.220
is. And I saw that every single day when I represented him. And he would everybody around
00:36:46.060
him would be frustrated and would say, what is going on? What's happening? And he would say,
00:36:48.980
we're just going to fight, fight, fight, which is what he did. And you see it now,
00:36:53.440
now that he's president again, you see him doing exactly the same thing that he did for two years
00:36:57.920
when he was being not only him, but his entire family, our entire movement was being attacked
00:37:03.280
and assaulted by by the Biden administration and by the left. And you just were talking about it with
00:37:08.860
with with with Miss Peters. It happened all across this country. And so President Trump is the person
00:37:14.680
that represents all of us and that stands up for all of us. But but what he would say to me and what
00:37:20.140
he because he believes it is that it's not just about him. It's about everybody else in the country
00:37:25.600
that's that that had to go through what we went through. And look, Steve, you you talk about this
00:37:30.740
on War Room almost every day, unwinding that filth and unwinding all that, that everything that
00:37:37.480
happened over the past four years takes time and takes a lot of effort. And we've made strides,
00:37:43.080
we have a lot, a lot more to do. And so I'm out here at SHOT Show talking about what we've done
00:37:49.120
with the Second Amendment. We have prosecutors that we just sent to Minnesota for the past over
00:37:54.680
the past three days, we have over a dozen brand new prosecutors showing up there. Well, not brand
00:37:59.480
new experienced prosecutors, but brand new to to Minnesota. And we're going to take care of what's
00:38:04.920
happening there every day. And so we're doing a lot of great stuff. And it's all because of President Trump.
00:38:11.220
I want to make an analogy and you obviously are going to answer how you answer. But I see that
00:38:18.660
we're in the same problem we had back in 21 and 22, that there were a few courageous individuals like
00:38:25.480
yourself that stood up. And at the time you were not MAGA, right? I think you were actually a Democrat
00:38:31.500
at the time. You stood up when most of the legal profession would not. And I'm talking about the
00:38:38.180
major law firms would not. And President Trump had this situation. I had this situation. General
00:38:43.960
Flynn, many of the people that are at the forefront of this movement had the exact same situation where
00:38:48.780
we had law firms we had worked with for years because of client pressure. They couldn't represent
00:38:54.400
you anymore. It seems to me that we have one of the issues we've got at Maine Justice and the thing
00:39:00.240
is a manpower issue. And a lot of that is because I don't know if it's the Federalist Society
00:39:04.900
or the major conservative law firms, they're either not saying their best or not giving you
00:39:11.280
the resources that you need. And this is when President Trump is maniacally focused on the
00:39:16.180
blue slip situation. I think we've only gotten 14 of the 92, I think it is, U.S. attorneys through,
00:39:22.620
but also at Maine Justice. I mean, there's just a manpower problem here. You've got so many
00:39:27.680
priorities, right? Not just from the antitrust department, but everything with lawfare, with the
00:39:38.380
deep state, what's happening with this insurrection. We've got a press conference we're going to go to
00:39:42.260
of guys calling for the Insurrection Act across the street from the White House. What can you tell
00:39:47.060
the audience about the manpower constraints that you're seeing at Justice and quite frankly,
00:39:52.920
the conservative movement that is part, they were part of the problem back in 21. They really
00:39:58.320
weren't helping President Trump. That's why Boris and others reached out to you, given your expertise
00:40:03.240
and your toughness. We've got the same problem today, sir. Totally. Well, let me just, I want to go back
00:40:10.820
for a minute, Steve, because I've wanted to talk to you about this for a long time. I've been MAGA and
00:40:15.800
I've been a Republican long before I represented President Trump. I was the only, one of the few lawyers
00:40:20.540
that stood up to represent Paul Manafort in New York years before I represented President Trump.
00:40:26.820
I represented Igor Fruman in the lawfare against him in SDNY and then obviously Boris and then
00:40:34.360
President Trump. So the narrative that I just became MAGA, just became Republican is one spread
00:40:39.340
by the New York Times and Maggie Haberman. And so we should quash that because it's completely false.
00:40:44.200
Now, you are totally right. You could not be more right, Steve, that we have a talent problem
00:40:52.820
because people are still afraid to come work at DOJ. There are still patriots that are lawyers around
00:40:59.180
this country and they, I'm sure they want to come, but whether it's their mentors, whether it's
00:41:04.400
organizations that aren't encouraging them to do it, you're right. Like when Jack Smith was called to
00:41:10.740
be the special counsel, he got a hundred resumes day one. All right. I go everywhere I speak.
00:41:17.340
I beg young lawyers, I beg lawyers who are, whether they're district attorneys, whether they're just
00:41:21.460
out of law school, just out of clerkships to take a chance and come stand for what's right and stand
00:41:26.220
for America and stand for justice. And I'll say it to you right now, lawyers that want to come work
00:41:31.620
at DOJ or work at our U.S. attorney's offices, just email us and let us know because you hit the nail
00:41:37.680
right on the head when you said that because it's easy for the president to say that here's the 10
00:41:44.200
things we have to do to fix the justice system. But that takes prosecutors. That takes good, hard lawyers
00:41:50.460
that don't, they're not looking for their next job. They're not worried about where they're going to go
00:41:54.360
after they leave the Department of Justice. They just want to come here and do what's right.
00:41:58.340
And we're looking for them. And we have good lawyers. We have great lawyers. But we need more.
00:42:03.920
And so you're you're you're you're definitely not wrong about that, that I do see some similarity
00:42:07.680
between when I represented President Trump and had to leave my partnership. I've lost most my friends
00:42:13.800
and, you know, had to find lawyers to come work with me. No, no, no. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang
00:42:20.720
on. Hang on. But tell people that they've never heard that story. You're a very prominent guy at a
00:42:25.880
great law firm. Talk to us that you get people have to understand this. One of the problems we have is
00:42:30.260
that. And this is what's scary about it. The deep state in this kind of radical judiciary in these
00:42:37.040
radical law schools and now in these law firms, they think they're going to win. They think they're
00:42:42.560
just going to wait us out. Talk to the story about what happened to you when you went and this guy was
00:42:47.020
a president of the United States and about to start the process and the journey because of you
00:42:52.400
and your great work defending him against all odds to become the greatest political comeback in the
00:42:58.660
history, probably of the world. But talk about what happened to you personally.
00:43:03.580
So when the president asked me to represent him, I flew down with my wife to Mar-a-Lago. We had a
00:43:09.260
phenomenal dinner. He's a great man. He we clicked. My wife clicked with him. I knew that it would be
00:43:15.700
something that would work. I went to my I was a full equity partner at the oldest law firm in America
00:43:20.960
and I went to them and they had like a committee that voted on things like that. And it was more or less
00:43:26.980
two Republicans, two Democrats and another Democrat. And after much thought and consideration,
00:43:34.520
they said I couldn't represent President Trump. And I went home that night and I they called me and
00:43:42.040
they said, don't worry, you'll get other good cases. And I said, no, I'm quitting. And my wife
00:43:47.200
ordered opened up a law firm the next day. And President Trump appeared in court with me by his
00:43:53.820
side the following Tuesday. So and I've never regretted it. It's the fact that I'm the deputy
00:43:59.860
attorney general, the fact that President Trump won. I have never regretted that decision going into the
00:44:04.880
the because then we had Jack Smith smash us twice and then he smashed us again. And then we had Fannie
00:44:11.360
Willis smash us. And and I sat there for two years next to President Trump watching him. And, you know,
00:44:20.600
a lot of people may take credit for the fact that he won. But the only person that really deserves a
00:44:27.420
credit is him because he's the one as he says all the time, how many politicians get indicted six
00:44:33.140
separate times and still win? All right. Never happened. That's not the lawyer. That's the man.
00:44:39.080
And so he's great. And so I don't regret doing what I did. And now doing work at the Department
00:44:44.860
of Justice, which is a it's a tough job. And every day we're battling deep state. We're battling
00:44:51.680
years and years, even going back to Trump, 45 prosecutors in a system that isn't doing what
00:44:58.980
we need to get done. But guess what? We're here. I'm not going anywhere. And it's going to work. So
00:45:05.440
President Trump, you know, people have the highest regard for Grassley. But even his,
00:45:11.580
you know, aide to camp, Mike Davis, is saying about this blue slip situation. I know the
00:45:17.060
president's obsessed by it. Can you just give us a minute to explain exactly what that is? Because
00:45:21.040
I think people are shocked that we only have 14 President Trump U.S. attorneys. And I believe you
00:45:26.880
have 92 slots to fill. Can you just walk us through that for a second? Because I know the president
00:45:31.820
is saying this is one of the most urgent things we have and we should actually do away with blue
00:45:37.160
slips. It's it's it's yes, it's a very easy way to explain this in two separate ways. One is a
00:45:44.860
nominated U.S. attorney like Jay Clayton for the Southern District of New York. OK, this is a
00:45:49.420
brilliant lawyer who ran Sullivan and Cromwell, who was the confirmed commissioner of the SEC
00:45:54.640
under the first under Trump 45. OK, no issues, no blemishes, was on the board of Apollo after he
00:46:01.920
left commission being commissioner of the SEC. President Trump nominated him to be the U.S.
00:46:06.560
attorney in Manhattan. Senator Schumer and Senator Gillibrand did not give him the courtesy of a call
00:46:12.900
or an interview. OK, and and under the rules, if they don't return blue slips, Jay just stays there.
00:46:21.040
He can't go forward out of the committee. He can't go to a vote. They wouldn't give him the courtesy of
00:46:24.960
an interview. OK. And so what has to happen is then you have to have this system where the judges have
00:46:29.840
to vote you in and they voted Jay in. So we're OK in Manhattan. But you go across the river to New
00:46:34.720
Jersey. Every single member of the bench, with the exception of two, were nominated by Democrats.
00:46:40.240
Again, it's because of the blue slip, because if President Trump wants to put a person as a district
00:46:46.400
court judge, both senators have to return blue slips. And so in places like New Jersey, there are they
00:46:52.000
just wait it out. President Trump cannot put a nominated person that he chooses in New Jersey
00:46:58.320
in the district court, cannot do it because of the blue slip process. So what happened in New Jersey,
00:47:02.960
because of that, they're all Democrats. And so when Alina Haba, same thing happens. The senators won't
00:47:08.800
even meet with her to talk to her about her nomination. So she sits. So then when the judges go to vote,
00:47:14.240
they're all Democrats except for two. And so they don't vote her in. All right. So think about that.
00:47:19.600
Not only do we not even get interviews with senators who are supposed to be doing their jobs,
00:47:24.560
but the judges that are going to have to vote are all Democrats because of those same senators control
00:47:29.200
the blue slip process. And I love Mike Davis like you do. And I think he's right. President Trump has
00:47:34.240
said it. We have to have a fix. The blue slip process has saved Republicans too. But the Democrats are
00:47:40.000
so much better than us at using it to their strategic advantage. And it's working. So yeah,
00:47:45.360
we have a big problem with our U.S. attorneys because we we've nominated rock star, rock star
00:47:50.240
men and women to represent the president and his administration throughout the country. And in most
00:47:55.920
cases, unless it's a very red state, and with a few exceptions, blue states, we don't get the blue
00:48:03.200
slips. So Steve, it's a yeah, it's a it's a it's a big problem. I know you've got to bounce. Just last
00:48:09.680
question. How can this audience because this audience when it puts its shoulder to the wheel,
00:48:13.360
as you know, can move heaven and earth? What do you need from the war on posse? What assistance do you
00:48:18.960
guys need at Maine Justice right now to make sure that all this lawfare nonsense that went along for
00:48:25.120
years that came close to destroying this republic until quite frankly, Boris was able to put you and
00:48:31.360
together with the president and form a legal team that fought through what six different indictments,
00:48:36.480
92 indictments, 300 years in prison, just ridiculous. They want him to die in prison.
00:48:41.200
What do you need this audience to do to help you guys at Maine Justice?
00:48:46.480
Listen, man, I don't I'm not trying to blow smoke up your ass. But the only thing I need you to do is
00:48:50.160
keep doing what you're doing. I mean, we hear every time that you that you get your your warriors to do
00:48:55.920
what they do every day. And your show exposes every every corner of issues that matter to President
00:49:02.480
Trump and they matter to me and they matter to the attorney general as well. So I don't need you to
00:49:06.960
do anything except for keep on doing what you're doing. We hear you and and we're working. I promise
00:49:12.080
you we are not resting on our laurels. We are doing everything we can to do to make sure every one of
00:49:19.760
President Trump's priorities are are actually not only put into action, but but actually solidified.
00:49:24.640
So they they last beyond beyond the president. So. So thank you, Steve. I appreciate it. I love
00:49:29.600
I love chatting with you. What what what is your social media? Where do people follow you, sir?
00:49:38.400
I have a I have a X account and a true social account of Dag Todd Blanche.
00:49:42.480
Dag Todd Blanche, thank you for taking the time to do this. Ben, thank you for setting up. Appreciate
00:49:56.640
The problem they have, the central problem they have is that the Federal Society,
00:50:01.520
the major conservative law firms, let's say it exactly like it is the same people that would not come
00:50:06.960
and assist President Trump because they thought President Trump was done.
00:50:09.440
You talk about the dark days of of 21 being debanked and deplatformed the others that the lawyers quit.
00:50:18.880
It's not the individual lawyers fault. These law firms, the corporate clients,
00:50:23.520
I keep telling you the most progressive entities in this nation aren't the governments or the NGOs,
00:50:27.920
these corporations. The corporations came to lawyers that represented a host of people,
00:50:35.200
whether it's the president, the president, whether it's myself, General Flynn. I could go on and on.
00:50:40.560
Tom Barrack, I go on and on and on. And you got fired by your law firms because the law firm,
00:50:46.800
the partner said, hey, I got to do it, man. I'm you know, you're my client. I'm close to you.
00:50:52.080
We're personally close, but I can't do it because the executive committee of the firm is going to throw
00:50:57.520
us out because the corporate clients have told us anybody around Trump and Trump's people and the
00:51:04.960
people were regarding J six, the Tina Peters of the world. If you represent them, uh, the corporate
00:51:11.920
clients are going to go. This is the corporate America. This is how the system works, folks.
00:51:17.760
Now it just as you have the exact same problem, the federal society, the big conservative law firms
00:51:23.440
where you have the Democrats when they come, like I said, Jack Smith had a hundred resumes.
00:51:29.040
They ain't got a hundred resumes for these things. This is why things are taking longer. I'm not
00:51:34.000
sitting there going, hey, the priorities are not right, but boom, but boom, but boom. There's,
00:51:37.120
there's a lot of issues working on, but the principal issue, they're just not enough quality bodies of
00:51:42.080
prosecutors and people that go to main justice and nobody wants to talk about it because the federal
00:51:48.960
society has been the traditional powerhouse and conservative legal circles. And they've done
00:51:54.400
tremendous in the first term. Remember we put the, we put Leonard Leo worked with us to put the list
00:52:00.000
together for Supreme court justices. We put another list when I took over the campaign, why we needed to,
00:52:05.600
to reconvince people. President Trump was actually a conservative. We put up the expanded list of the
00:52:11.680
additional 20 of which surprise, a relatively unknown, a judge in Colorado named Gorsuch was on.
00:52:21.840
So, and Mike Davis helped that, et cetera. We have a problem. We have a massive crisis. This crisis is
00:52:26.560
we don't have the legal talent because the conservative side, they think Trump's just a
00:52:31.600
passing storm and they don't want to get involved. Apollo, one more time. Uh, we just got a couple of
00:52:38.240
minutes here. I want to take the rest of time and I'll get back to just have nor hang on and we're
00:52:42.320
going to have a five o'clock show. It's going to be incredible, but Apollo, give me just a minute
00:52:46.160
or two what we need to do on this Tina Peters. Cause clearly they've never released anything.
00:52:50.640
They keep it. Everything's silent. As soon as they get some video, that's kind of hard to see
00:52:53.840
and what's going on. They leak it to these liberal progressive TV stations in Denver, and they want to bury
00:53:00.320
Tina Peters. What they want to do. Remember here, they want to bring additional charges against
00:53:04.560
Tina Peters and keep her in prison for 20 years. They want Tina Peters to die in prison. Let me be blunt.
00:53:10.320
Like they wanted Trump to die in prison. Uh, Apollo Pappas, your thoughts, sir.
00:53:17.120
Yeah, you're absolutely right. First of all, everyone just bear in mind in, you know, in real time,
00:53:22.160
you have a hearing that shows on several points, each one taken separately that her prosecution and her
00:53:29.280
convictions should have been the result of a mistrial. And they clearly were, if you listen
00:53:33.280
to the testimony and the questioning of the appellate judges, I think it's going to be
00:53:37.680
exceptionally difficult for them to rule on anything else. Uh, they could potentially rule on
00:53:42.480
resentencing, but even that I think would be a travesty of justice. And if you listen to that
00:53:46.640
hearing and understand her case, it's clear that really what happened is Tina Peters is an egregious
00:53:51.040
victim of the weaponization of government. Second, perhaps only to President Trump and a few others.
00:53:56.720
On top of that, there is testimony from herself and a lot of details from violations of, uh,
00:54:03.360
rights, as well as administrative regulations within La Vista that have been handed off to
00:54:09.360
the civil rights division at the department of justice. So there's a lot going on.
00:54:13.600
We want to have you back on going right now. Where does the audience go to get all this information?
00:54:22.080
What's the website to go to, how they get the show, how they get more access to you.
00:54:26.080
We'll have you back on it. Go in detail where they go right now.
00:54:30.080
Tina Peters dot us for everything. Tina Peters for show where you can donate. She certainly needs
00:54:35.200
help on her legal defense. She has a lot of bills and there are several tracks that are going to be
00:54:39.440
very time consuming and very costly. You can follow me at Apollo Pappas on X and I do my best
00:54:44.960
to update on Tina Peters as much as I can there. But Tina Peters dot us is the place to be.
00:54:49.040
You're doing amazing work. Trust me. You're doing amazing work. Apollo. Thank you so much.
00:54:54.800
Appreciate you. I'll call you after the show. Um, nor Ben Laden is going to join us. Hopefully
00:55:00.640
not this evening. If I can't keep her up then tomorrow, Mike Lindell, a brother, uh, been a
00:55:07.360
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