Episode 5085： 26 Billion In DEI Payments Still Being Distributed By SBA; How Republicans Need To Approach Jack Smith
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Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Chris Ruffo to discuss the White House's $26B slush fund and why it needs to go. Plus, a look at why the Supreme Court is still not taking guidance from President Trump on executive orders.
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in the B Block. Let's go and bring the show in and then we're going to get our first guest.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Wednesday, 21 January in the year of our Lord. 2026 is the first day of the second year of
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President Trump's second term. Third time he won the presidency, but second term. Chris Ruffo,
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the great Chris Ruffo is joining us. And Chris, look, naturally I would want you on here during Davos
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because Larry Fink, you've so broken Fink on DEI. Larry Fink, who was kind of the financial guy
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of it, forcing all the companies to do it because of his immense power on Wall Street. And he's over
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at Davos kind of denying, you know, no ESG, no DEI. We don't need to do that. We don't need a green new
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deal because intermittent power won't work for the data centers. He's thrown over all of his beliefs
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and you were the leader in the effort to break DEI. But you came up with something, I think two days
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ago, that I think may be the biggest story in the country and people need to focus on it. It was this,
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is it 26, we talk about Somayans in Minneapolis and the ripoff of the learning centers and all this
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is getting deeper and everybody's telling me this, but you're identifying in the Trump administration,
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there's still, Congress is approving, I guess there's $26 billion being spent on this type of
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scams by the Small Business Administration. And we kind of know it's out there, but we're not
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stopping it or not putting our hands on it. Can you walk people through this, quite frankly,
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blockbuster story? Yeah. So this is at the Small Business Administration. It's a $26 billion slush fund
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that is dedicated to providing government contracts, including many no bid government contracts,
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exclusively to firms that are owned by racial minorities and women. In many cases,
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these are shell companies where they have a token minority and then a private firm behind them.
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But in all cases for this entire $26 billion slush fund, there's only one identity group that is
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prohibited from accessing these funds or bidding for these contracts, white men. And so this is like
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the epitome of DEI. It's billions of dollars. There's all sorts of fraud and corruption. In the
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program's 45-year history, there's never been a single audit done. And the question is simply this,
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it's now one year into the Trump administration. The president came out strong on day one, said no
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more DEI. Why are we still administering billions of dollars for every group except for one? It seems
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totally unfair, totally unconstitutional. And yet it's still something that until now has been surviving
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in the Trump administration. So Chris, help me out there because the president came out, he's pretty
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upfront, you know, in the days of thunder, you know, flood the zone. Every day we're coming out of 10
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executive wars. Thank you. President Trump said, hey, we're not doing this anymore. I don't want any more
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DEI. I don't want it in the corporations. And particularly, it's not simply not going to be in the
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government. It's not going to be in my administration. I'm taking charge of this. So how are we now one
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year into it? And President Trump's got a hundred things going on. He's bringing world peace.
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They got the world or the peace board tomorrow. They're going to settle the Gaza thing once and
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for all. You've got Greenland. You've got what he's doing with the Chinese Communist Party, Japan,
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Venezuela, South America, hemispheric defense, the mass deportations. He's got everything going on.
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Bobby Kennedy stuff. How is this not the focus of Russ vote over our good, good buddy, Russ
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for OMB and particularly Kelly Loeffler. And she's got a great team over there. Why are they just not
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taking guidance from the president and let's just get rid of it? Well, so it boils down to a legal
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question. So there is a statute in place that says there is racial contracting. It's called the
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Section 8A program that is supposed to be for disadvantaged groups. And to be fair, Kelly
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Loeffler, who's the administrator at the SBA, has done some great work in the first year. She's
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mandated the first ever audit. She's reduced the percentage of race-based contracting from 15 percent to
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five percent. But I think what's happened is that she feels hemmed in by legal considerations.
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It may not be technically a DEI program. It's more like an affirmative action contracting program.
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The native tribes have sovereignty issues that make them somewhat of an exception to race-based rules.
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But the bottom line is that it hasn't got done. It needs to get done. And I was fielding calls
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yesterday from the White House after this story came out. And look, the White House assures me
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we're working on it. It's been stalled. We're trying to get it done. We think there's going
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to be imminent action. But what I think needs to happen and what could happen is simply to say,
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this program is unconstitutional. We're going to refuse to administer it. We'll fight it in the
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courts where we think we have a pretty good shot. Because look, the courts have been pretty clear
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about this stuff. Race-based contracting, especially a race-based contracting that says any group in the
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country can apply except for one, white men, is totally unfair. It's totally illegal. It's totally
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unconstitutional. So I'd like to see the administration use the nuclear option here and
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just say, we're blowing up this program. We're going to give contracts to the best firms. Doesn't
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matter what the skin color is. Doesn't matter where they're from. And look, the other thing that is
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kind of crazy, we look through a lot of these contracts. These are supposed to be for socially
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disadvantaged or oppressed people. But you have a firm, for example, that's run almost exclusively
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by Indian Americans with PhDs that have millions of dollars in assets, to give you one small example.
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And you say, wait a minute, this is a group that has the highest education level, the highest income
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level, run by people who by any measure are part of the American elite now. Why are we giving them a
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contract advantage over other groups? It's indefensible. And I hope that we see action.
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You know, maybe not today or tomorrow, but I hope we see something by next week at the latest.
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Chris, the other bomb in here, I don't want to bury this lead. You said, hey, because it's 26 billion a
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day, but this has been going on for 40 years. And it's not that, hey, maybe you do have some set
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asides for minorities, like I said, oppressed minorities, not Indian guys with PhDs that are
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building tech companies or whatever. But you said there hasn't been an audit. What I've always heard
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about this program is that it's actually a company, but they put a woman or they put a minority
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on top of it and they get the contracts, but it's a complete scam that it's really not a minority
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company. They're just doing that. So they qualify for the for the contract itself. Is it true that it
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hasn't been audited to that depth to see if there's been criminal activity or fraud in 40 years?
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Yeah, there have been cases. Certainly there are cases of fraud, cases that have been prosecuted,
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but there's been no comprehensive audit of all of these approved minority contracting firms ever.
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And we know it's rife with fraud. We know this is part of it. The other dirty detail or wrinkle
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that I heard from administration officials and others with knowledge, inside knowledge of the
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program is that, you know, a lot of this money goes to Alaska, the state of Alaska, where there are
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native Alaskan tribes. And there are these shell companies where private companies run by people
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from all different backgrounds, use kind of token Alaska native firms to keep this flow of billions
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of dollars over time, tens of billions of dollars going. And there are senators in Alaska who are very
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intent on keeping this spigot open. These are Republican, at least one Republican senator
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in Alaska. And so everyone is in on this scam. I think everyone knows that it's a dirty business.
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It's totally corrupt, totally unjust. But I think it needed the attention because what's really
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happened is that it fell under people's radar. It's not it's not a headline story for many people.
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There's a lot of exciting things happening in the news. But the reason I wanted to draw attention to
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it is because this should be an easy layup for the administration. We don't do DEI. We don't do race
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based decision making. It's gone. That's what I'd like to see. And I'm optimistic that we'll get
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there. Yeah. And particularly, we talked about the two trillion dollar deficit today. What what
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Besson has to do about this? This is every every bit helps talking about you talk about the Senate,
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the House appropriations. We see them in the middle. And in fact, we covered here. We stream it. We get
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big audiences. You see these debates and the moderates always kind of win. How did this for 40 years,
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how has this gone on when every guy running for Congress, every man and woman, I'm going to cut it
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nothing's going to get through? I'm against the I'm against waste, fraud and abuse. This hits this
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this hits every touch point. How did Congress and the appropriations guys, the appropriators
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keep doing this without getting outed? I mean, part of it is just it's an automatic renewable
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expense. It takes a lot of political capital to say we're going to take this existing program that is
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benefiting Native Americans and, you know, the children of sharecroppers and and all of these kind
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this mythology around it. They don't want to be the big bad Republican who's cutting, you know,
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minority contracts. But I think the deeper reason is psychological. And the psychological
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reason is this. A lot of these guys, Republican congressmen, Republican senators, for many years
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were deathly afraid of being called racist, of being called bigoted, of being called cruel,
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of facing the scrutiny of the national news media. And at the end of the day, it really took a figure
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like President Trump to come in there and say, hey, wait a minute. I don't care what you call me.
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I've been through the media ringer. I'm willing to take the heat. We're not going to do this. Get
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rid of it. And that's the kind of decisive action that was required. And my suspicion is that the
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president, if this were put on his desk, he would be shocked and he would ask his people, why haven't
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we gotten rid of this already? And look, I think it is totally defensible legally, totally defensible
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politically, and most important, totally defensible morally. We can either have a colorblind country
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where everyone is treated equally, or we can have a racial hierarchy where people are treated
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unequally according to their race. I'm not about that. I think we have to stop.
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Yeah. No, your recommendation to the president, just let's do a nuclear option here and, hey,
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face him in court because they're going to sue you anyway if you even try to touch it around the
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margins. Let's go for the whole thing. Zero it out and say, come and get it.
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Last thing, you were the leader in the DEI, getting rid of DEI, both in corporate America
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and the government. Larry Fink, the new mayor of Davos, is speaking a very different tune,
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at least publicly, behind the scenes, maybe not. Talk to me about Larry Fink, and now he's
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taking over Davos. He's the mayor of the globalist village, and he's not touting DEI like he used
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to, sir. That's exactly right. It's been an about face from Larry Fink. So look, after 2020,
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Larry Fink, he was wealthy, but he wanted to become famous. He wanted to be beloved in
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international circles, business circles, philanthropic circles. And so he became really
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the poster boy of DEI and ESG. But, you know, he took a beating for these once the kind of
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woke hysteria started to subside, once it was really demonstrated that these are forms of
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corruption and discrimination. And, you know, from some sources that are even within my network
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in corporate America, what happened is that when Larry Fink started to realize that this
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was making him unpopular, he instructed people within the firm to quietly wind down some of
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these ESG programs and to rehabilitate his image. And so he has reemerged after 10 years of woke
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as a kind of neutral, corporate, you know, non-ideological figure. I think it was phony
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then. I think it's phony now. Guys like Larry Fink will do whatever is popular, whatever is expedient
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in the moment. And so the big lesson here for conservatives is don't necessarily worry about
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people's convictions because those are malleable. Worry about who sets the status incentives.
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And so if DEI is perceived as high status, corporate executives will adopt DEI. If DEI is
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perceived as low status, corporate executives will abandon DEI. That's the best way to have an
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influence. That's the best way to change perception. And Larry Fink's kind of new face, new mask is a sign
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that conservatives have one on ESG and one on DEI. Rufo, you're the best. How do people follow you?
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Chris Rufo, great job. Keep at it, sir. Fantastic. Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate you.
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Chris Rufo, Lord have mercy. Trump will take the nuclear option. You put it in front of me,
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he's going to say, what are we doing here? Zero this thing out. They're going to take us to court
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anyway. Trump's won, what, 22 or 24 times? We see Magnificent in Davos today, just dropping hammer
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Okay. I haven't put them all up. I mean, I haven't, I don't even think, I think Elizabeth and
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Grace and Mo haven't even put it all on my getter account. Maybe they have, but you know, we had a
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conference 10 days ago. Dr. Thayer's working with me. There's a bunch of us that are of Irish descent.
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We are working with folks in Ireland to help them get stood up a Irish populist nationalist party
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because, as you know, probably the worst country been sold out by their political elite is our
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beloved Ireland to the Davos crowd. Well, there's been a lot of, you know, O'Bannon saying they're
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going to create a Trump and he's going to bring a nationalist, he's going to bring MAGA to Ireland.
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And the elite media over there is going crazy. I mean, they're losing it. So Larry Fink today,
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Dr. Thayer's here and Dr. Thayer, I got a cold open for you to get into the heart of what happened
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at Davos today. But Larry Fink is the new mayor. He gave, I think, an interview, the Financial Times
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and they said, well, we're thinking of moving Davos around. And one of the first places we want to stop
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is Dublin. So you can tell that the globalists, Larry Fink, the mayor of Davos, they're now concerned
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enough. They're getting worked up enough that we're getting a little traction in Ireland. They
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want to move Davos over there. Your thoughts, sir? Well, he's not going to escape nationalism in
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Dublin, Steve, as you well know, right? The Irish are maybe have been asleep at the switch for a few
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years, given they're elite, but they're changing their orientation very quickly. And so given the
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history of Irish nationalism, the history of Ireland, what Larry Fink is doing is really
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jumping from maybe the frying pan into the fire with respect to nationalism. But it really shows
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his desperation, right? He wants to shed, you know, the dead hand of Davos, the dead hand of
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globalism. That's the old paradigm. That's the old regime.
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And they don't want to, yeah. And they don't want to, they don't want another, they don't
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want another Nigel Farage. We had Nigel today on the street. They don't want another Nigel
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Farage or AFD. They, Ireland, they own lock, stock and barrel. They want the Irish just to
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act like indentured servants. We've got a cold open for you. I want to get into your thoughts
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today about Carney and Trump and then all of Trump's, President Trump's efforts. Let's go
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Talked at Davos for 90 minutes. That is only about 15 minutes less than he took at the White House
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podium yesterday. But the content was just as meandering. He exaggerated and lied about the
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economy. He said everyone in America is doing better than ever before, that everyone is happier
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and richer. He said federal employees who he fired love him now because they're making more in the
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private sector. He said windmills are ugly and anyone who buys them is stupid. He said the people
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who stole the 2020 election are about to be prosecuted. He said next time Canada's Mark Carney speaks,
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he should remember Canada lives because of the United States. He said the prime minister,
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who is actually the president of Switzerland, was difficult and that she rubbed him the wrong way.
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He made fun of Emmanuel Macron. He said Europe and NATO aren't thankful enough that they'd be
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speaking German if it weren't for the U.S., that most of their countries don't even work without the U.S.,
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that immigration has destroyed Europe, that it's threatening to destroy America as well,
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We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would
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be, frankly, unstoppable. But I won't do that. OK, now everyone's saying, oh, good.
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What I'm asking for is a piece of ice, cold and poorly located, that can play a vital role
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in world peace and world protection. We've never asked for anything else. And we could have kept
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that piece of land and we didn't. So they have a choice. You can say yes and we will be very
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appreciative or you can say no and we will remember.
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Well, the deal is going to be put out pretty soon. We'll see. It's right now a little bit
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in progress, but pretty far along. It gets us everything we needed to get.
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Will the U.S. still get Greenland? Will the U.S. still get Greenland, sir?
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Well, he's a great leader. I think he's fantastic. The secretary general was representing the other
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side, which is really us, too, because, you know, very important member of NATO. I've done
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a lot for NATO. And it's really nice. I mean, it's a deal that everybody's very happy with.
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The second war, the leaders were given a second chance. This time it was clear that what was
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at stake was not simply the return of prosperity, but the defense of freedom. They chose the path
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of economic and political partnership and set the stage for 50 years of growth across the globe.
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Through six decades and 12 American presidents, the United States and Europe have faced monumental
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challenges and have overcome them together. Because transatlantic ties held strong against
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the forces of fascism and imperial communism, our nations have been able to thrive in the pursuit
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of peace. Our careful, and I mean careful attention to building and sustaining the liberal
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international world order with the United States and Europe at its core was the bedrock of the
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success the world enjoyed in the second half of the 20th century. It's a deal that everybody's
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very happy with. Does it still include you? Does it still include the United States having
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ownership of Greenland like you've said you wanted? It's a long-term deal. It's the ultimate long-term
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deal. And I think it puts everybody in a really good position, especially as it pertains to security
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and minerals and everything else. And I wonder if you think this is a moment in which you didn't
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have to serve in a national security capacity to be scared for United States national security.
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Well, I think we're all ashamed of what we saw on the stage in Davos. I think all of us were quite
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jealous of seeing the integrity, professionalism, intellect of Prime Minister Carney of Canada,
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who acquitted himself brilliantly in many respects in terms of honoring the transatlantic alliance.
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And when we hear Donald Trump talk about history in such a, as you point out, an ignorant way,
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it really is a period of time where I think all Americans, whether or not they served in the
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military, diplomatic service, national security, intelligence, really feel that we really have
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reached this real inflection point where America's leadership on the world stage is not just in
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question, but also is now being seen as being absent, which has worried our European partners.
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And so, again, I think what we saw was a very, very terrible depiction of what Donald Trump 2.0 is
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going to do one year into a four-year term. And again, I think many of us are just really not just
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appalled and ashamed, but also just so puzzled as to how so many individuals within the Republican
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Party, within Congress, continue to allow Donald Trump to do this. Because I think people on the
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world stage, and Europeans in particular, are not just seeing this as Donald Trump's aberrant
00:24:21.320
behavior, which I think they've gotten used to, but he is a reflection of a sentiment in the United
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States within the Republican Party, as well as maybe 30 percent of the electorate, that really
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does agree with him and believe these things as allowing him to do this again to, not just to the
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detriment of international peace and stability, but to the detriment of U.S. national security.
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Yo, dude, it's the first day of, say, Brennan, before you go to prison, it's the first day of the
00:24:54.600
second year of his second term and third victory. He won the popular vote every swing state. I mean,
00:25:00.700
I could go on and do it. It's a reflection of the will of the American people, sir. Dr. Bradley
00:25:08.620
Thayer, make it make sense. We did slide some things in the middle of the way people used to talk at
00:25:13.280
Davos, the Bill Clintons and the Dick Cheneys, all this kind of political mumbo-jumbo. President
00:25:18.600
Trump cut right to the heart of it, sir. Look, Davos is dead, right? That's what Fink is recognizing
00:25:24.880
that it's over. It's time to get out of town, whether it's Dublin or Detroit or Jakarta.
00:25:30.740
They're going to try to keep the circus a movable feast, right? Keep the circus going. But you've never,
00:25:36.660
rarely in international politics, do you have such a juxtaposition between the old paradigms,
00:25:41.320
between the old regime of Carney and then what Trump illuminated today? So yesterday, Carney's
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speech was important for three reasons, right? First, he's the point man. He was speaking for
00:25:55.120
Starmer. He's speaking for John Brennan, the Democrats, the EU elite, and the Chinese Communist
00:26:01.140
Party, right? He wants to sustain the old regime, the old paradigm, which profited the CCP and the elite
00:26:07.620
in the US, EU, Canada, and Australia. But those days are over. Secondly, Carney said he's balancing
00:26:14.340
against the US, right, in favor of the CCP, because Carney is really perverted, right? He's more
00:26:21.920
comfortable with communist systems. He's more comfortable with totalitarianism than he is with
00:26:27.860
democracy in Canada, which is telling, Steve. That's true across the board of the EU elite,
00:26:34.580
a stormer of Albanese in Australia and others. And then thirdly, it's important because of what
00:26:43.000
Carney said, his comparison at the outset of his speech of the US with the communist Soviet and the
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power comes when you no longer believe the lie. Well, that's exactly it, right? But not in the
00:27:04.460
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today. No more living lies. So Trump has introduced really the new paradigm, the new age, where we're not
00:27:19.980
going to believe the lies of globalization. We're going to believe and we recognize, as Trump said,
00:27:26.640
strong borders, we're going to have that, we're going to have strong elections, right? That hasn't
00:27:32.540
received much attention, but he called attention, he called, really underlined the importance of that.
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He also described the danger of a bad press, right? Which you could say, that's the danger of bad elites
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00:27:52.280
Western civilization, right? What unites the West together? He said that prosperity and progress that built the
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Fantastic. Dr. Thayer, can you wrap up your thoughts about Davos, sir, and then give your social
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media coordinates and how people get your great writings? Sure, Steve. What we witnessed yesterday
00:32:31.040
and today is really a Copernican revolution and a change between what Carney represented,
00:32:37.620
again, as a stalking horse for the EU and the Democrats and Starmer of the old regime,
00:32:44.160
where globalization was the answer to everything. And if you follow that road, you're not going to end
00:32:50.940
up speaking German or Japanese, but you will end up speaking Chinese versus what Trump illuminated,
00:32:59.540
right, which was the path of freedom, which is the path of the ability to recognize reality as it is
00:33:08.100
today in international politics and the need to take some very important steps to secure American
00:33:16.100
security and the security of Western civilization. So if you follow Carney, you're dead. You're in the
00:33:21.820
grip of the CCP, which is where Carney wants you, of course, and the EU. And if you follow Trump,
00:33:27.700
you're in the path of freedom. So Trump has given many great speeches. I think this is his best of all
00:33:32.980
time. And it really defines a new era in international politics. And so today is going to be,
00:33:39.640
you know, a seminal event. This was extremely important in terms of defining the future and
00:33:48.360
why. This is up there with the speech about defense of Western civilization and the Judeo-Christian West
00:33:57.860
he gave in Warsaw and also his first inaugural American carnage. We got to bounce, Doctor. Where
00:34:04.400
do people go? What are your coordinates? Yeah. If you're going to save the West, you got to do what
00:34:09.280
Trump says. That's the point of it. So I'm Brad Theron X and Bradley Thayer Getter. Thanks very
00:34:14.780
much, Steve, for calling attention to this. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Great work. Keep
00:34:21.400
doing great work. One of the smartest guys around, Dr. Bradley Thayer. Julie Kelly. By the way, out of
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hair and makeup. Thank you so much. Julie Kelly, the star. How about that? Hello, Julie. Fresh as a daisy.
00:34:35.680
We talk about. I got my yellow daisy sweater on. Fresh as a daisy. And I just an Irish lass.
00:34:42.360
Julie, President Trump went. We've been talking about, you know, populist and nationalism and
00:34:47.540
globalism and President Trump throwing down hard. But we do have to. And one of the frustrations with
00:34:52.780
the MAGA movement is that, hey, we got so many problems here and they President Trump knows what
00:34:59.620
to do about it. For some reason, it's just not getting done fast enough with enough urgency.
00:35:04.840
You've highlighted one of the big issues here about the deep state lawfare, all of it. We're going to
00:35:10.380
have a pretty seminal event come up. And that is Jack Smith. Right. Talk to me about this piece you
00:35:16.100
wrote in your sub stack that I've told everybody. I've been pushing out to everybody. You got to focus
00:35:20.400
on this. What do you got, Julie Kelly? Well, thank you for that, Steve. So tomorrow,
00:35:26.060
ex-special counsel Jack Smith will testify publicly before the House Judiciary Committee.
00:35:32.480
Now, you'll recall, and you and I have discussed his testimony, closed-door testimony,
00:35:36.640
in December, the House Judiciary Committee released the transcript of that eight-hour interview,
00:35:42.540
as well as the video. But both Jack Smith and President Trump have one thing in common. I think
00:35:49.620
it's their only point of agreement in, you know, three plus years, is that they want, both wanted
00:35:55.600
to see his testimony in public under oath before this committee. And that's finally going to happen
00:36:02.380
tomorrow at 10 o'clock Eastern time. I will be covering it live on ex-Julie underscore Kelly too. I'm
00:36:08.380
sure you and I will be talking about it tomorrow evening. But Steve, if anyone better represents
00:36:15.700
the vengeful, reckless, punitive, destructive lawfare against Donald Trump and his associates
00:36:24.880
over the last few years, it is special counsel Jack Smith. And what I laid out in my piece at
00:36:32.020
Substack Declassified with Julie Kelly, I outlined 10 questions, 10 areas that the Republicans need to
00:36:40.240
hammer the $50 million man, I call him. He's cost taxpayers $50 million in less than two years
00:36:48.980
as the special counsel. So when we can get into some of the details about what I talk about here,
00:36:55.720
but it is vital for Republicans to take this opportunity and expose Jack Smith for the degenerate
00:37:02.480
dirtbag that he is. So the people can see what the president had to deal with for two years.
00:37:08.200
As soon as, as soon as we read it, we got it over to people in the Hill. I know you haven't
00:37:12.540
been talking to them, but just go through the couple of three that you think are absolutely got
00:37:16.660
10, the couple of three must haves that we must do because I'll be honest without Gates. I mean,
00:37:22.880
they got a lot of good guys in this, but Gates was our go-to guy without Gates. I'm, I'm as of right
00:37:28.660
now, I'm not feeling it. I'm just not. So what's your advice to these guys? What were the ones you load up
00:37:33.960
front as the ones you got to get to? I mean, they absolutely have to go for the jugular here.
00:37:40.380
So I would say, and this was the first question that I posed that they need to confront Jack Smith
00:37:45.700
with, with, and this is something that the media, when they covered Jack Smith's testimony last
00:37:50.860
month, completely ignored Steve. Judge Aileen Cannon in July of 2024 dismissed the documents case
00:37:59.080
after determining that Jack Smith's appointment violated the constitution, violated the appointment
00:38:05.180
clause, because he was not appointed by the president. He was not confirmed by the Senate.
00:38:10.500
He acted as a principal officer, i.e. a U.S. attorney. So she tossed the indictment up until the time that
00:38:19.400
Jack Smith left office in January, 2025, he was still signing his name, special counsel, Jack Smith,
00:38:28.600
on motions and briefs filed in the documents case. Now compare that, Steve, with what's happening
00:38:35.660
this week, actually yesterday. Judge David Novak in the Eastern District of Virginia,
00:38:43.240
threatening to bring a false statements charge against Lindsay Halligan for also signing her name
00:38:50.960
as U.S. attorney Lindsay Halligan after a separate judge dismissed the Comey and Tish James
00:38:56.340
indictments finding that her appointment violated the constitution. So again, a huge disparity in the
00:39:02.900
rules. I would also speak to Jack Smith's testimony last week when he made several misrepresentations,
00:39:10.560
I'll say nicely, I'd rather call them lies. He said that there were classified documents found in boxes
00:39:16.900
in the ballroom and bathroom of Mar-a-Lago. He has zero proof of that. Absolutely no proof
00:39:24.680
that any of the alleged classified files that eventually ended up in the hands of the special
00:39:30.760
counsel were in any of those boxes that were shown in those photographs off an aide's phone
00:39:36.660
in early 2021, the bathroom and the ballroom. He has no proof of that. He also said that the president
00:39:43.500
repeatedly obstructed the investigation into the documents case. That also a brazen lie. In fact,
00:39:50.540
I criticize the president and his team for over-cooperating with the Department of Justice.
00:39:57.480
How can you claim that Donald Trump was not cooperating when he let Jay Bratt and three FBI
00:40:04.240
agents into Mar-a-Lago in June of 2022? Let them walk around wherever they wanted, including the
00:40:11.120
storage room where some of these boxes were. The president delayed his summer relocation to
00:40:16.460
Bedminster that day to greet them and told them specifically, we will give you whatever you need.
00:40:22.460
Two days later, Jay Bratt, that little, I call him degenerate midget, who was head of the documents
00:40:28.060
prosecution in Florida. Two days later, he starts pushing for an armed raid of Mar-a-Lago.
00:40:33.660
So Jack Smith is just as recently as last month lying about that abuse of the grand jury process.
00:40:40.060
Uh, doctoring and mishandling evidence, misrepresentations to the court, including
00:40:45.640
Judge Cannon. Um, you know, we can get, there's a whole litany of things, but I would also urge Steve
00:40:52.400
House members to back off a little bit. Their outrage about Jack Smith seeking their phone records,
00:40:59.400
their toll records, they're called. We get that you're upset about that, but that is minor compared to
00:41:06.680
what Jack Smith, the constitutional rights that he decimated of this president, the new boundaries
00:41:13.880
that he set. Um, and that is what House members need to remember. The real victim here is Donald
00:41:21.060
Trump. Yes, we're sorry that he got your phone records. It violates his future debate clause. It
00:41:27.460
also violates a few statutes. However, it's relatively harmless, although his misconduct
00:41:35.020
should be punished, but that pales in comparison with what Jack Smith did for two years to this
00:41:41.580
president. He needs to be fully exposed to the public and he needs to be held accountable.
00:41:48.440
If, um, because the Democrats get a say-so here, so it's going to be tomorrow is going to be a fracas.
00:41:53.720
And of course, Nicole Wallace, Katie Tur, all of them on MSNBC particularly are going to be,
00:42:01.560
you know, he did such a great job. He got buried. Going into this, what is your level of confidence
00:42:07.640
that the House Judiciary Committee on the Republican side can actually deliver?
00:42:14.640
Um, I would say it's a little better than normal. Um, I think that the House Judiciary Committee
00:42:19.920
understands what is at risk here, what is important to expose Jack Smith. Uh, I think they got their
00:42:27.200
feet wet a little bit during that eight hour transcribed interview. Jack Smith can come across,
00:42:33.620
you know, in, in this appearance anyway, very earnest, very deliberative. That is not
00:42:38.820
who he is as a human being. That's not who he is as a prosecutor. And one other thing I would love to
00:42:45.540
see them drill down. Jack Smith, Mayor Garland made it seem like he just plucked Jack Smith out
00:42:50.960
of the Hague. Here was this tough war crimes prosecutor in the Hague. We just went and got
00:42:55.860
him to demonstrate the independence of the Department of Justice in this probe. No, no, no. What Jack
00:43:02.040
Smith disclosed, and I really credit the House Judiciary Committee and Chairman Jim Jordan for flagging
00:43:08.140
this. As early as the summer of 2022, Jack Smith was in touch with Lisa Monaco, our favorite deputy
00:43:15.760
attorney general at the time, her deputy saying that he wanted to go back to the Department of
00:43:21.960
Justice. If there was a position there, he would go back. Of course, he was in the DOJ under the
00:43:27.260
Obama administration. He was asking for a job there for months. And what he said is he specifically
00:43:34.480
asked to work in the newly created Domestic Terror Unit, which had been created by Matthew
00:43:40.760
Olson, the head of the National Security Division and the Biden DOJ, a former DOJ colleague of Jack
00:43:47.400
Smith's under the Obama administration. What did the Domestic Terror Unit do? Matthew Olson,
00:43:53.380
National Security Division at DOJ, Domestic Terror Unit, did two things. They helped pursue
00:43:59.060
two J-6ers, and they were involved in the criminal investigation into the president and
00:44:03.900
deliberations pre and post Mar-a-Lago raid. So Jack Smith and Merrick Garland's little tap
00:44:10.580
dance that this was, oh, we just picked him? That's not the case.
00:44:13.660
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stream yours. We're going to be streaming it all day. It's going to be a heavyweight title fight.
00:47:16.500
I hope we're bringing heavyweights. Jack Smith's good. He's tough. I hope so.
00:47:19.500
And he's going to do all his little phony moves, right? So Julie, but I got to bring up something for
00:47:25.700
you to go. And I want you to give the substack and where you, you know, coordinates, how we get
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there. But we started the day with Solomon telling us about sedition hunters. You tangle with these
00:47:35.020
people for years. My question is, how in the hell are we one year into this? And poor cash has got to
00:47:40.400
be going through the warehouse and finding the files where Chris Ray paid him at least $150,000
00:47:46.260
to tangle with Julie Kelly. Why are we not prosecuting these quickly enough, ma'am?
00:47:53.160
Hmm. So just for backup. So anyone who follows me religiously knows I sparred with these animals for
00:48:01.000
years and they would help identify, or they were really part of the punishment, the process. So
00:48:07.760
they would post photos and videos of individuals. They had nicknames for them. They would identify
00:48:14.160
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which I knew at the time. Ryan Riley, actually the reporter, kind of wrote a whole book on this.
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So they were instrumental in helping the FBI not just identify these individuals, but torment them,
00:48:33.120
Steve. I mean, this produced so much online harassment, gave the media fodder to further
00:48:39.400
torment these J6ers. So, I mean, I knew they were getting paid. I knew they were working with the FBI.
00:48:46.600
I knew they were informants. I didn't know they were being paid that much, but, you know, what are we
00:48:51.020
going to do about it now? It looks like a lot of them were overseas, which we suspected at the time
00:48:56.700
No, we got to track them down. Julie, where do people go, particularly tomorrow morning?
00:49:01.500
You're going to have a pregame, all that follow. We're going to follow you all day and have you
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back here at five o'clock to kick it off. Where do they go, ma'am?
00:49:07.340
Perfect. So, Julie underscore Kelly two at X and then declassified with Julie Kelly. I've got
00:49:13.960
my whole piece up there. It's pretty long, but I think people will be kind of shocked if they're
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relatively new to Mr. Smith, exactly what he was up to for two years. So, I hope Republicans are
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Grace, Elizabeth, and Mo, push it out to everybody. Let's see a force multiplier and
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every Posse member, push it out to your friends in your circle. Thank you, Julie Kelly. We'll see
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