Bannon's War Room - January 28, 2026


Episode 5101: Plans Of Hope And Wishful Thinking In Iran; Europe Is Suffering Civilizational Erasure


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

179.16313

Word Count

9,848

Sentence Count

771

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

49


Summary

Former CIA analyst and author Sam Faddis joins host Stephen K. Bannon in the War Room to discuss his new book, "The Red Green Alliance" and the radicalization of the American youth, and the growing influence of the Red Green alliance.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.
00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.000 The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:52.000 Wednesday, 28 January, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:55.000 We have Sam Faddis on.
00:00:57.000 Sam, I got Raymond Ibrahim is about to join us because whether we're looking at War Room, Texas,
00:01:05.000 and we're shifting the flag down to Texas over the weekend until the primary,
00:01:11.000 or if you look in the streets of Minneapolis and you look at the Somalian situation,
00:01:15.000 or if you go to Tehran, there's a connective tissue.
00:01:18.000 It's Islam.
00:01:19.000 We have to be blunt about that and have to face it like adults.
00:01:23.000 You can't look away anymore.
00:01:24.000 Sam, can you just give a short, particularly for, we're adding audience members all the time,
00:01:30.000 your curriculum vitae professionally, sir?
00:01:34.000 Well, I was in the United States Army, but I spent 20 years undercover in CIA,
00:01:40.000 most of that in the Middle East and South Asia running ops against the Iraqis, the Iranians, all the fun people.
00:01:47.000 Another decade after that, working in the IC for other entities,
00:01:51.000 mostly training people to go do what I had done for 20 years undercover.
00:01:56.000 And so you were not in the analytical side like Brenna.
00:02:00.000 You were not writing reports and thinking great thoughts and writing white papers, correct?
00:02:05.000 That is correct, yeah.
00:02:07.000 I was on the ground undercover almost all of that 20 years in the Middle East and South Asia,
00:02:13.000 everywhere from, you know, Lebanon to India.
00:02:18.000 And correct me if I'm wrong, you wrote, in fact, the reason I came, found out about you,
00:02:23.000 you wrote, I think, the definitive book on what had to happen with the CIA.
00:02:28.000 Was it in 2010? What year did you write the book?
00:02:32.000 I think it was published in 2010 when I made the decision to retire.
00:02:35.000 I read a book called Beyond Repair.
00:02:37.000 And essentially that book says we need to completely,
00:02:44.000 somebody else has described it as we got to take CIA down to the studs and start, start over.
00:02:50.000 And this is why. And that's what the point of that book was.
00:02:55.000 And you agree with me that that has not been done yet, correct?
00:02:59.000 Absolutely not been done. We haven't begun that process.
00:03:04.000 You know, Frank Gaffney and Trevor Loudon and Raheem Kassam for years talked about no-go zones,
00:03:11.000 the Red-Green Alliance, and people laughed it off as a conspiracy.
00:03:14.000 Right.
00:03:15.000 You see this armed insurrection in Minneapolis, the Red-Green Alliance.
00:03:19.000 Now, we know the green part, the jihadist part of it, right?
00:03:23.000 And you see that in Mandami in New York City.
00:03:25.000 He's a Ugandan Marxist jihadist. He's proud of it. His parents are too.
00:03:29.000 But people, the red part sometimes, people just can't get their arms around because they thought we defeated communism.
00:03:36.000 Right.
00:03:37.000 The collapse of the Tiananmen Square and the Berlin Wall and Putin and those guys, they're not communists.
00:03:45.000 But you've seen in James O'Keefe's tweets the last couple of days in his show, and you've seen in Andy Ngo, these warriors that are street-level guys that are out there really like Nick Sorter and Nick Shirley.
00:04:00.000 They're in the fight, right?
00:04:02.000 They have been saying, and we had Flynn on here yesterday saying, there's a hard pill that we have to swallow, we have to awaken to something.
00:04:09.000 And that is, there is almost a religious fervor by the Marxist part of this in the streets.
00:04:16.000 And I tell people, these people have been formed since they were in kindergarten by these radical teachers and their parents.
00:04:22.000 And the ones who go to the best schools are the worst because the best schools are the worst, particularly the prep schools.
00:04:27.000 To form these kids as radicals that hate themselves, hate their families, and most of all hate their country and their civilization.
00:04:35.000 And it only gets doubled down when they go to these Ivy League or Ivy League equivalent schools.
00:04:39.000 So can you give us a second, since you spent your career doing this, on this red-green alliance and how lethal it is to this American republic?
00:04:50.000 Yeah, well, the fate of the republic hangs in the balance.
00:04:55.000 That is not exaggeration.
00:04:56.000 That's not hyperbole.
00:04:57.000 That's where we are.
00:04:58.000 There's an ongoing Marxist revolution in this country, and yes, a sort of marriage of convenience between them and the Islamists.
00:05:06.000 Now, if they ever win, they can then fight it out over the dead body of the republic as to which vision triumphs.
00:05:13.000 But that doesn't help us right now.
00:05:16.000 And let me say, you know, going back to my background, when I started, I go back far enough that I was working European Marxist-Leninist groups on the street, guys that were killing Americans and staging this revolution.
00:05:30.000 I spent years on the street with these folks in the midst of this revolution, having to digest their nonsense and really understand exactly how the hell they work.
00:05:43.000 So this is not a theoretical thing for me.
00:05:46.000 When I look at this, I say, I've seen this movie before.
00:05:49.000 I know these guys.
00:05:50.000 I used to hang with these guys because it was my job to get inside of those groups.
00:05:56.000 And this is really it is massive.
00:05:59.000 It is incredibly well financed.
00:06:01.000 It's incredibly organized.
00:06:03.000 And it honestly boggles my mind that we continue to allow these organizations with this much money in this organization to exist.
00:06:13.000 We ought to be inside of them, tearing them apart and arresting these people, not waiting till they put folks in the street and start smashing windows.
00:06:21.000 Sam, in your experience with both the jihadists and the Marxists from Europe all the way through and what you see today, are they open to debate?
00:06:34.000 Are they open to the political debate?
00:06:35.000 And we make really great points and back it up with evidence that we have policies that could work and help working people and help the poor.
00:06:42.000 Are they open to a debating society where we kind of argue these different points and then we go out.
00:06:47.000 And in the great spirit of the of the Judeo-Christian West, we have an election and whoever gets 50 plus one or if multiple people won the plurality that you take over and you can go ahead and implement those policies.
00:07:00.000 And they'll sit there and say, well, let's give these guys a chance, sir.
00:07:03.000 Yeah, sure.
00:07:04.000 I mean, in the same way that the Khmer Rouge and Stalin and and Mao were open to discussion.
00:07:11.000 Right.
00:07:12.000 This is not a democratic this is not a democratic process.
00:07:16.000 And also, people need to understand, look, you know, Mamdani comes to mind.
00:07:20.000 They are going to smile in your face and say what they need to say at any particular point in time.
00:07:28.000 And then when the moment comes that they have judged it, you know, the time to move is now, then all of that goes away.
00:07:37.000 Let's remember the Bolsheviks were brought to power.
00:07:41.000 They were a minority party in a democratic assembly.
00:07:45.000 And then, boom, there was a coup.
00:07:48.000 And the next thing you know, people are in camps and up against walls.
00:07:52.000 That's the mindset you are dealing with.
00:07:55.000 So, you know, you like there is a great discussion here.
00:08:00.000 The Bolsheviks, I don't think, ever had more than 20 percent.
00:08:04.000 Lenin says we don't want to have more than 20 percent.
00:08:06.000 It takes too much time to do that.
00:08:07.000 We're not a debate.
00:08:08.000 And he would say we're not a debating society.
00:08:10.000 We're revolution of state and revolution, I think, is the book.
00:08:13.000 But they've taken it and they actually teach a course.
00:08:16.000 I believe it's I believe it's not Revolution Barbie, but the Twitter site.
00:08:24.000 She's put out this great things on the Red Green Alliance.
00:08:26.000 She actually put out there this this course they teach.
00:08:29.000 It's Lenin's pathway to revolution.
00:08:31.000 They were used in democracy just as a get a little foothold and convince you, oh, yeah, they're just running.
00:08:37.000 They're just an alternative.
00:08:38.000 They're just an alternative source.
00:08:40.000 Right.
00:08:41.000 They're not.
00:08:42.000 It's it's it's it's the exact opposite.
00:08:44.000 That's what you're seeing in the streets.
00:08:45.000 That's why it's going to be taken down.
00:08:46.000 Now, at the same time, we do have our attention diverted.
00:08:49.000 Now, there are in the Western Hemisphere, you know, the the Monroe Doctrine 2.0 and President Trump's corollary.
00:08:57.000 He's from the Arctic in Greenland, the Panama Canal, the Gulf of America, the you know, the resources of Guiana in Venezuela, the Gulf of America, Mexico, Texas, 10 times more old than anybody's makes the makes the Gulf Emirates irrelevant to us.
00:09:12.000 We are pulling together, not simply a armada, but tremendous military striking force because we were kind of two in a row.
00:09:19.000 We've had great expeditionary success as we rolled the iron dice of war.
00:09:25.000 Although, as Eric Prince so eloquently put it, you had to have a cockpit full of balls in order to pull off the last one because, you know, the Chinook pilot got shot up pretty bad.
00:09:36.000 It's just the magnificence of our military that that pulled it off right now.
00:09:40.000 Right now, President Trump's being egged on by the same people, the exact same people that played controlled opposition and allowed, you know, all the illegal aliens to come in the country, have the Democrats do it.
00:09:52.000 And they would sit there and say, oh, gosh, I sent strongly worded letters, but wouldn't do anything.
00:09:56.000 The same people that push us, the neocons that push us into all these wars, the same people that get you into Iraq.
00:10:03.000 But as soon as it gets tough, they want to look the other way and change the channel and do something else.
00:10:08.000 Now, those same people are saying we got to get to Toronto.
00:10:11.000 We have to have a regime change. We have to have a decapitation strike since the Israelis couldn't pull it off when they tried to pull it off in July.
00:10:18.000 We all know they tried to and failed. We need to go in and do it on a regime change.
00:10:22.000 And Eric brings up a good point. The shot. Look, the shot was our guy. I got that.
00:10:28.000 But there are tons of problems there. You had Savak. You had all that.
00:10:31.000 They wouldn't take care of it. There wasn't prosperity going down to the deck plates, although it was trying to build a middle class.
00:10:37.000 But he got tossed and the sun's just not an impressive guy and it doesn't have any support.
00:10:42.000 This was an Islamic revolution. They threw us out. We were there for a long time.
00:10:47.000 We got through and they were a big partner. They were kind of the linchpin in the Middle East.
00:10:51.000 They threw us out. They brought on the Islamic Republic themselves.
00:10:55.000 They have to deal with it. And I'm sorry if they got 30,000 dead.
00:10:59.000 You know, there's there's 20 or 30,000 dead in sub-Saharan Africa Christians.
00:11:04.000 I don't see this loading up the 101st Airborne to go into these situations.
00:11:08.000 We got enough on our plate right now. These people brought it on themselves and they're going to have to sort it out.
00:11:13.000 Whether they have MEK, which is a Marxist jihadist cult, I think, a Muslim cult.
00:11:19.000 You got all these players going around. They're going to have to sort out their own destiny.
00:11:23.000 Is that too crazy or you've been there? I mean, you've got a better feel.
00:11:26.000 Is it is a decapitation strike regime change by the United States with Israel riding shotgun?
00:11:35.000 Is that going to solve any problems over in Tehran, sir?
00:11:40.000 I am very skeptical, Steve.
00:11:42.000 You know, my response when I hear all these people yelling that we got to go to war, by the way,
00:11:47.000 they don't seem to ever be prepared to put on a uniform, put themselves in harm way, harm's way.
00:11:53.000 But they're they're always ready to start a fight. My response is slow down.
00:11:58.000 Think this through. What what are we doing?
00:12:01.000 You know, the enemy gets a vote and hope is not a plan, man.
00:12:04.000 You're going to bomb a handful of places.
00:12:06.000 You're going to bomb sites in Iran and then magically the Ayatollahs will fall and a new wonderful government will emerge.
00:12:15.000 So this whole plan is based on a whole series of assumptions and basically wishful thinking.
00:12:22.000 I'm very skeptical that no matter how many targets we bomb that the regime is going to fall because they are murderous and they will kill as many people as they have to.
00:12:33.000 And they have a monopoly on force.
00:12:35.000 And if the government does fall, what precisely is going to replace it?
00:12:40.000 I mean, I've never met the crown prince. I met Ahmed Chalabi when we were doing this in Iraq, who was all over Western Europe and the United States telling us that the Iraqi people loved him.
00:12:53.000 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. For our younger audience, this is the point I want to get to.
00:12:58.000 Let's go back in time because they run the same playbook. The neocons run the same playbook on all time.
00:13:03.000 You know, it's a liberation. You're going to give me a minute on Chalabi.
00:13:08.000 We're going to go to break. But Chalabi back in the early 2000s before the invasion would be on Fox every night with people like Sean Hannity.
00:13:16.000 And, you know, Ailes had him. He was he was telling us what we want to hear.
00:13:20.000 That's the guy that convinced Bill Kristol that they'd be throwing roses in our path when we came as liberators. Was he not, sir?
00:13:27.000 That is exactly him. Right. He's got five thousand dollar suits that he's purchased in London and he's in D.C. and London all the time.
00:13:35.000 And nobody in Iraq even remembers who the hell this guy is.
00:13:39.000 Literally, he believed, you know, he's selling people in this idea that they're going to line up in the streets in Iraq, wave American flags and and welcome us like we're liberating France in 1944.
00:13:53.000 And I'm sitting in Iraq talking to the people who are actually inside Iraq because we were the only people there trying to tell Washington, you know, nobody even remembers Chalabi's name.
00:14:04.000 They have no idea who the hell this guy is.
00:14:09.000 And yet you are going to base your entire policy on what this guy says.
00:14:13.000 So in general, it's like slow down in regard to Iran.
00:14:18.000 Let's let's think this through.
00:14:21.000 What are you about to start?
00:14:23.000 Where is this about to go?
00:14:25.000 And what are what is the actual information here?
00:14:28.000 Not wishful thinking, not assumptions.
00:14:30.000 Right. Right.
00:14:32.000 By the way, the taking out doing the strikes, I think they may have a package.
00:14:36.000 That's been a toughest target package.
00:14:38.000 They may have it to do.
00:14:39.000 Then what?
00:14:40.000 You own it then.
00:14:41.000 We don't want to own it.
00:14:42.000 Right.
00:14:43.000 We have no interest in to run.
00:14:44.000 We don't.
00:14:45.000 We have interest in Minneapolis and New York and Chicago and Los Angeles because we haven't done the heavy lifting yet to break the back of the red green alliance here in the United States.
00:14:54.000 It's here in the United States of America.
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00:16:30.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:36.000 Sam, we spent, what, 20 years in Iraq.
00:16:38.000 I think we're actually, Iran, excuse me, excuse me, Iraq.
00:16:41.000 We're still there.
00:16:42.000 I think we just pulled out some troops the other day.
00:16:45.000 It's been, of the nine trillion dollars they've calculated, we spent seven trillion there.
00:16:50.000 The bulk of the combat casualties, both the killed of our beloved military, the honored debt, also contractors.
00:16:57.000 Also, I don't know, 40, 50,000 wounded and all that money that we did not put in it.
00:17:02.000 Imagine what the United States would be.
00:17:03.000 We put the $7 trillion folks in places like St. Louis and Baltimore and Detroit and, uh, around the country in the rural areas.
00:17:13.000 Right.
00:17:14.000 Think of the think life would be a little different.
00:17:16.000 These are all opportunity costs.
00:17:20.000 These people have liked it done.
00:17:21.000 So, so your, your thing, Iraq, we're going down the same path.
00:17:25.000 I believe with the right target set, you probably could decapitate and take out the Mullahs.
00:17:29.000 Then what?
00:17:30.000 That was a problem.
00:17:31.000 The problem in Iraq wasn't taking out Saddam Hussein.
00:17:33.000 The march up country took what?
00:17:34.000 35 days, 40 days, something like that.
00:17:36.000 It was the other 19 years that including first Fallujah, Najaf, second Fallujah, on and on and on and on and on.
00:17:44.000 Uh, with, with American troops treated by the establishment, by the established order, just like the 3,000 guys we sent to, uh, we sent to Minneapolis, just sent there and forgotten about.
00:17:56.000 President Trump's drive to the presidency didn't really start in Iowa or New Hampshire, although it was great.
00:18:02.000 It was in South Carolina when he called the Bushes out to their face on the stage about the Iraq war and had, and Jeb Bush had no comeback.
00:18:09.000 It's the first time a Republican had ever done that.
00:18:12.000 That's what all of a sudden galvanized people said, this guy's different.
00:18:15.000 His career, political career as the top level guy, right.
00:18:21.000 That had a different idea of what we were going to do here with America first was calling out that I'm not going to do any more Iraq's.
00:18:27.000 I'm not doing any more Afghanistan's that we've been there, done that.
00:18:30.000 And that's off the plate.
00:18:31.000 Do we risk that?
00:18:32.000 You think is the Iraq analogy.
00:18:34.000 Can you use that here of something we may be walking into?
00:18:41.000 Absolutely.
00:18:42.000 You can, you can use that.
00:18:43.000 And I, and I, you know, it fascinates me that I can drive around Bethesda or Silver Spring, and I hardly ever see a Marine Corps flag on a front porch showing me that somebody's got a kid in the United States military.
00:18:57.000 I can't drive two minutes from my house with in rural Pennsylvania and small town Pennsylvania without passing those things by the dozens or driving past Purple Heart parking spaces in front of Home Depot that you don't see in the wealthy suburbs.
00:19:12.000 You got a lot of people that want to, are always trying to push us into a conflict based on a bunch of false assumptions, wishful thinking.
00:19:22.000 And then the next thing you know, we are bringing home men and women in, in body bags and flag draped coffins, slow down.
00:19:31.000 You can't start, you start this thing and you begin a process and then you can't hit the rewind button and go back.
00:19:41.000 The next thing you know, we're, we're, we're doing it all over again.
00:19:46.000 That's why I keep coming back to slow down, man.
00:19:49.000 What exactly are you going to do?
00:19:52.000 And then what happens next?
00:19:54.000 And what happens if they don't do what you anticipated?
00:19:57.000 Cause they actually get to respond, right?
00:20:00.000 They get to play too.
00:20:01.000 Uh, yeah.
00:20:03.000 Yeah.
00:20:04.000 We need some cool heads.
00:20:05.000 I want to make sure people know, but we're, we're not defending the, uh, Tola.
00:20:09.000 Uh, there's a lot of people on earth that deserve killing.
00:20:12.000 And he, and the Ayatollah and the Mullah is probably top of the list, but you know what?
00:20:16.000 That's the Persian people.
00:20:17.000 You see the Persian people versus is this Islamic hardcore guys.
00:20:20.000 That's for the Persian people to work out.
00:20:22.000 You know, I can't wait for the day that we sit there and we see drumhead trials of the Mullahs and the Ayatollah and all that click in the same square that they killed so many people, both the Shah's people and the Islamic Republic butchered people in the country.
00:20:38.000 Hang them, put them in the gallows and hang them up for the world to see.
00:20:41.000 Good on you.
00:20:42.000 Good on you.
00:20:43.000 And you're going to then deserve your own country and you work through your own problems, right?
00:20:48.000 Without, uh, the United States coming in with being pushed by the Israel first crowd to take this out.
00:20:53.000 Not now, not ever let the, let the Persian people, these are bad guys, but they brought them on.
00:20:59.000 They wanted Islamic Republic.
00:21:01.000 They had the, all the benefits of the West and they didn't want it.
00:21:04.000 Okay.
00:21:05.000 We got tossed out.
00:21:06.000 We're big boys and girls.
00:21:07.000 We got it.
00:21:08.000 You got a better way, your way.
00:21:09.000 And now you find out, you found out pretty quickly.
00:21:12.000 It wasn't a great way.
00:21:13.000 And it's for the world to see these Islamic Republics and Sharia law, right?
00:21:18.000 You get what you get and it's your responsibility to take care of it.
00:21:22.000 Not our responsibility.
00:21:23.000 Quite frankly, if you take care of it fine, if you don't take care of it fine either.
00:21:27.000 And they said, oh, they got terrorists all over the place, terrorists all over the place.
00:21:30.000 Where were the terrorists after we took their nuclear?
00:21:32.000 President Trump said total obliteration.
00:21:34.000 Where were all the terrorists?
00:21:36.000 Do they have guys around?
00:21:37.000 There's no doubt.
00:21:38.000 And, but Hezbollah has been dealt virtually a death blow and they still got bad guys around.
00:21:42.000 I understand that.
00:21:43.000 But hell, do they have as many bad guys here as the Chinese Communist Party?
00:21:45.000 I don't even think so.
00:21:47.000 Sam Faddis, thank you for your guidance.
00:21:49.000 Where do people, and people may need to know who first came over the show for the first year,
00:21:53.000 is that you're one of the biggest of the MAGA leaders in Pennsylvania of patriots up there about voter integrity
00:21:59.000 and making sure that Pennsylvania doesn't get stolen again with mail-in ballots and machines and all of it.
00:22:05.000 But your experience has been, is amazing and you're a safe pair of hands and very thoughtful.
00:22:10.000 So where do people go to AND Magazine, which are putting up great stuff all the time?
00:22:14.000 The best place to find me and us is AND Magazine to Substack.
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00:22:27.000 And are you on Twitter or is the place to go to AND Magazine?
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00:22:38.000 Thank you, sir.
00:22:39.000 Appreciate you.
00:22:40.000 Thank you.
00:22:41.000 The dollar is, the Japanese bond market's struggling.
00:22:47.000 The dollar's struggling.
00:22:48.000 The gold is on fire.
00:22:50.000 One of the reasons, I'll bring Jillian Barbary in.
00:22:53.000 One of the reasons that these things are struggling,
00:22:56.000 there's essentially roughly $390 trillion in debt globally.
00:23:02.000 And that's everything from junk bonds to government payments to the retirement programs for everybody,
00:23:08.000 down to the local water districts all over the world, the school districts, and personal debt.
00:23:15.000 Corporate debt, private corporate debt, public corporate debt.
00:23:18.000 Private corporate debt's having a little shakeout right now.
00:23:21.000 But then it's credit card debt also.
00:23:24.000 I think credit card debt, it's $1.3 trillion with like 10 to 15% is non-operational.
00:23:31.000 People have already thrown in the towel.
00:23:33.000 Well, before you do that, when you get these letters, you just can't sit there.
00:23:37.000 It's like an IRS notice.
00:23:39.000 You can't sit there because you still have fees and interest, penalty fees and interest that are accumulating.
00:23:44.000 So you have to deal with this.
00:23:45.000 How do you do that?
00:23:46.000 Because you're kind of like, Hey, these big credit card companies, you know, I don't know how I got into this thing, but I got into it.
00:23:51.000 Jillian Barbary done with that.
00:23:53.000 You've actually got an organization that will give you a free consultation at first, but you got somebody that knows all the ins and outs of dealing with these credit card companies.
00:24:02.000 They have, they've done, they've done this forever.
00:24:04.000 They helped you get out of debt.
00:24:06.000 Walk me through the process.
00:24:07.000 If somebody goes, you're right.
00:24:08.000 I'm coming up on taxes.
00:24:09.000 I can't afford to pay my taxes.
00:24:11.000 I'm certain one of the reasons is I've got, you know, $25,000 in credit card debt.
00:24:15.000 And I'm afraid maybe I should just go into bankruptcy.
00:24:18.000 That's the easy way out that with that.
00:24:20.000 Maybe what you think is the easiest, but it also could be the dumbest.
00:24:24.000 What do you got for us, girl?
00:24:25.000 A hundred percent.
00:24:26.000 And you said it right, right off the bat, Steve, you stuff them in a drawer.
00:24:30.000 You don't answer the phone.
00:24:32.000 It gets, oh, it gets so much worse.
00:24:35.000 So the number one thing I want you to do right now as one of Steve's viewers, if you are watching the show and you are 10, 15, 20 or more thousands of dollars in to debt, personal debt, don't pay another bill.
00:24:50.000 That is number one.
00:24:52.000 Number one, do not pay another bill before you go to donewithdebt.com and look at the testimonies and see what they've done for other people.
00:25:00.000 These are master negotiators.
00:25:01.000 These are teams of people that have worked together for years and years.
00:25:05.000 They know what they're doing.
00:25:06.000 They know how to talk to the institutions, banking and credit card institutions.
00:25:10.000 They will not drive you into bankruptcy.
00:25:13.000 They don't want to get you one big overhead, a conglomerated loan.
00:25:17.000 That is not what they're seeking out.
00:25:19.000 What they want to do for you is personal financial freedom at the end of the day, right?
00:25:23.000 So they have a few tactics to do this.
00:25:26.000 And the number one way is when you get a hold of them and talk to them free, as you mentioned, Steve, it's a free consultation.
00:25:34.000 So you've got nothing to lose.
00:25:36.000 They immediately put a stop to those nasty phone calls and those letters.
00:25:41.000 So that stops in about a day or two.
00:25:43.000 Literally, it happens overnight.
00:25:45.000 That way your mental state starts to lift a little bit and you start to breathe.
00:25:51.000 What does that mean?
00:25:52.000 It means you can go on, take care of your kids, go about your day while they're starting to clean up your mess, so to speak.
00:25:59.000 And I can say that because I had a mess.
00:26:01.000 And if you don't have that nutshell aside with all that money, I don't care who you are, how much you think you've got in the bank.
00:26:08.000 It could be a bad money manager.
00:26:09.000 It could be disease like I had breast cancer, job loss.
00:26:12.000 It could be divorce.
00:26:14.000 Things happen in life.
00:26:15.000 They happen to the best of people.
00:26:17.000 People who think they've got their life in order and all of a sudden, boom, it just blows up on you, right?
00:26:21.000 So what Done With Debt will do is help put the pieces of that puzzle back together to get you back on the road to financial freedom, Steve.
00:26:28.000 It's donewithdebt.com.
00:26:31.000 It's a free consultation.
00:26:32.000 You've got nothing to lose.
00:26:34.000 Just call them up.
00:26:35.000 They're almost for me.
00:26:36.000 A therapist, practically.
00:26:39.000 Is there anything that someone has dealing with a credit card and debt that they haven't heard before and, more importantly, helped solve before, ma'am?
00:26:50.000 Oh, that's a great question.
00:26:52.000 No.
00:26:53.000 No.
00:26:54.000 They've seen all walks of life.
00:26:55.000 And, you know, and Steve, dealing with, I worked at the NFL for 10 years.
00:26:59.000 I saw players who made a lot of money and they thought they were being taken care of.
00:27:05.000 Good guys.
00:27:06.000 Okay.
00:27:07.000 And for all intents and purposes, you know, they weren't out there, this and that.
00:27:10.000 Some of them were.
00:27:11.000 But, you know, I had a bad money manager.
00:27:14.000 Okay.
00:27:15.000 I thought I was taken care of.
00:27:17.000 I paid all the bills for both husbands.
00:27:19.000 I was like totally the woman in charge.
00:27:22.000 I was having the babies and working.
00:27:24.000 It doesn't matter if you're not over your finances on a type A personality.
00:27:28.000 Like I'm not.
00:27:29.000 I'm type B.
00:27:30.000 I'm a circus performer.
00:27:31.000 Then you are going to be the one responsible at the end of the day.
00:27:35.000 It affects everybody.
00:27:38.000 Where do they go?
00:27:39.000 Let's send them right now to done with debt.
00:27:41.000 They have a free consultation.
00:27:42.000 Where do they go?
00:27:43.000 You bet.
00:27:44.000 Donewithdebt.com.
00:27:45.000 Donewithdebt.com.
00:27:46.000 It's the easiest thing you can do.
00:27:47.000 Please look at the testimonies because that's the truth in the pudding right there.
00:27:51.000 All the people that they have helped.
00:27:53.000 And I'm one of them.
00:27:54.000 So I'm here to tell you, they are real people.
00:27:57.000 You're not going to get a robot on the other end of the phone.
00:27:59.000 You get a real person to talk to who knows what they're doing.
00:28:02.000 And again, I said, they're master negotiators.
00:28:04.000 They're not going to try to get you into bankruptcy.
00:28:06.000 They're going to try to do the best for you.
00:28:08.000 No.
00:28:09.000 Keep you out of benefit.
00:28:10.000 Jillian.
00:28:11.000 Thank you so much.
00:28:12.000 Jillian and Barbary.
00:28:13.000 Donewithdebt.
00:28:14.000 Donewithdebt.com.
00:28:15.000 Go there right now.
00:28:16.000 Thank you, ma'am.
00:28:17.000 Appreciate you.
00:28:18.000 They've heard it all before.
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00:28:21.000 What are you talking about?
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00:30:01.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:30:05.000 Rabin Ibrahim, the author of Sword and Scimitar, Defenders of the West and the Two Swords of Christ, are going to join momentarily.
00:30:12.000 One of the world's leading experts on Islam and radical Islam.
00:30:16.000 Chad Mizell, former Chief of Staff over at Maine Justice, joins us.
00:30:21.000 Chad, we've talked about a whole of government approach and how we have to bring every aspect of justice, FBI, Treasury, IRS, all of it.
00:30:28.000 It just can't be left to 300 Border Patrol officers and ICE officers.
00:30:35.000 It has to be a whole of government.
00:30:36.000 And I know you've done a lot of thinking and were very instrumental early on in the administration about the strategic outlook of sealing the border first and then getting to the deportations of the bad hombres and then the mass deportations.
00:30:49.000 Can you walk us through what your logic would be in dealing with a whole of government approach now in Minneapolis, sir?
00:30:56.000 Absolutely.
00:30:58.000 Steve, first, thanks for having me on the War Room.
00:31:01.000 You've got to use every tool in the toolkit.
00:31:03.000 I mean, this is pretty simple law enforcement techniques.
00:31:06.000 And so IRS has data, for example, about some of the locations where some of these illegal aliens are living.
00:31:11.000 Law enforcement should be able to access that data.
00:31:14.000 We also have information about food stamps, information potentially about voting records, information relating to other federal benefits, information relating to education, information relating to health care.
00:31:25.000 Right. If we were to take every piece of information that we have about illegal aliens in the United States and hand that over to law enforcement, this job would be done very, very quickly.
00:31:34.000 Now, intentionally, over decades, the government bureaucracy has set up walls preventing a lot of this information from accessing each other.
00:31:43.000 And then Congress has, in a lot of instances, codified restrictions preventing one group of people from accessing information, giving it to another group of people.
00:31:52.000 So there's a lot of work that needs to be done to break down those walls.
00:31:55.000 That was some of the work that I was fortunate to be able to do at DOJ and some of the work that they're still doing today.
00:32:01.000 But I know that they are accessing that data and they're having a lot of success.
00:32:07.000 So the Attorney General Pam Bondi, she was on Fox, but she laid out, she sent a waltz, I think, a letter that laid out four things he has to do.
00:32:15.000 Some is what you talk about. You've got to turn over the voting records.
00:32:18.000 You've got to stop with your sanctuary city policies in cities like Minneapolis.
00:32:23.000 I mean, there were four bullet points. He hasn't agreed to any of those.
00:32:27.000 Would your recommendation, first off, everybody take a step back, and that would be, since she laid it out, it's pretty logical, is that we start there and let, and if President Trump's now engaging in conversation, but you tell Fry and Walls, hey, we sent you a letter from the Attorney General of these United States.
00:32:44.000 Let's work through those four as a starter. Would that be a logical place if they want to deescalate to kind of start? Because all of those were about federal laws, sir.
00:32:54.000 Steve, I think that's table stakes. I think we would say, if you want to come to the table, you need to do all of those things just to show us good faith, just to show us you actually care about the law.
00:33:06.000 And we're not just talking about immigration laws. There they're talking about laws related to federal benefits, federal health care, federal voting laws.
00:33:15.000 Again, like the notion that a state is trying to shield its voting records because DOJ might believe that there are illegals voting in the election, and they're saying, no, no, no, don't look under our skirt. Everything is okay.
00:33:25.000 Well, we know what was going on in Minnesota, right? We had independent reporters who were looking into things, looking into daycares.
00:33:32.000 Where is some of this federal money going? And we found massive amounts of fraud.
00:33:36.000 So what logical person would say, okay, we trust you with everything else. We're sure that that was a one-off. It just doesn't make sense.
00:33:45.000 Chad, how far have we made progress in breaking those walls that were set up on purpose so that you couldn't look at the totality of the picture and get all the data and all the information centrally located, which you said, hey, would make everybody's job so easy, you could start solving this in 48 hours.
00:34:04.000 Have we actually made progress on that, or has it been codified too much by actual law?
00:34:11.000 Huge progress. Let me just give two quick examples on that. First off, Steve, if you remember the situation dealing with, at the time, the Department of Defense during Trump 45 and then Homeland Security, DOD wanted really nothing to do with Homeland Security.
00:34:29.000 They wanted nothing to do with the immigration mission. They saw their role as fighting overseas and foreign territories, but not protecting our own border here in the United States.
00:34:37.000 Pete Hexhaf has fundamentally changed that. And so I would say at the outset, the wall between DOW now and DHS has been broken down in an incredibly helpful way.
00:34:48.000 The other person I'll mention is Secretary Scott Pesant. He has done a great job with IRS in being able to unlock some of the information there in order to help out the Department of Homeland Security.
00:35:00.000 One area where this is really big is remittances. We know that people are working in the United States. We know that they're sending them money down to Latin America or Mexico or Venezuela or wherever they're from.
00:35:10.000 We have access to this data. We know the U.S. companies that are doing it. So finally actually putting pressure on those companies, saying you need to double check to make sure the money is coming from a legitimate source.
00:35:20.000 If it's coming from an illegal alien who has no right to work in the United States, it's not coming from a legitimate source. Therefore, you're not allowed to, under U.S. banking laws, send that money abroad.
00:35:31.000 Last thing is that Todd was on from the SHOT Show the other day, and it was something that people are talking about, but nobody wanted to bring the service.
00:35:40.000 I finally asked him, I said, look, one of the issues at DOJ and main justice, because we only have 14 U.S. attorneys of 94.
00:35:47.000 It's not simply the blue slip program, which is obviously outdated. It's the fact that there's restrictions.
00:35:53.000 Some of the biggest conservative law firms are saying, hey, you can't go into main justice and work for Trump.
00:35:57.000 I mean, there is a talent problem. We just don't have the bodies. You just had, I think, 12 prosecutors in the Minnesota office quit.
00:36:05.000 We don't have a surge capacity of talent. How do you, you know, Pam's smart, Todd's smart, you're very smart.
00:36:13.000 How do we solve that problem? How do we break the law to actually get more talent and make sure people know you've got to work with us,
00:36:21.000 particularly on the conservative side, the federal society and others, to actually get talent into main justice and to these U.S. attorney's offices?
00:36:29.000 It's a great point, and I think that this is one area where we've been outmatched.
00:36:34.000 Think about where individuals went after they left the Biden administration.
00:36:38.000 They took tenure track professor jobs at Harvard, at Stanford, at Yale. Very, very cushy corporate jobs, right?
00:36:45.000 Where are people going after they leave a conservative administration? What's the latest example after leaving Trump 45?
00:36:52.000 I had so many friends, Steve, that spent months looking for jobs, months of draining their savings.
00:36:59.000 As a government worker where you're not making that much money, right, people don't want to do that to their family, understandably.
00:37:05.000 And so I think one of the best things we can do and actually one of the things that I'm now working on on the outside is creating a pipeline of jobs for people who go in.
00:37:13.000 If you're willing to raise your hand, if you're willing to salute the flag, if you're willing to do your patriotic duty and go in and serve in government,
00:37:20.000 then at that point in time we should reward you by making sure that you have the opportunity to use those skills either in corporate America or in academia.
00:37:29.000 That is huge. Folks, that is huge. Chad, what's your social media, the website, what you're working on in your social media, your coordinates? People want to follow you. Where do they go?
00:37:40.000 Absolutely. It's at Chad underscore my Zell on X. That's the best way to reach me, Steve.
00:37:45.000 And I wouldn't say that we've, the war room would volunteer Chad to go to the interagency task force as the head guy to solve this problem of the red green alliance, but that'll be for next time, Chad.
00:37:58.000 You'll get volunteered for it. Thank you so much.
00:38:01.000 You see, I'll tell you we've got some really good people in there.
00:38:03.000 Thank you. But yeah, thank you so much.
00:38:05.000 Oh, yeah. No, and great job. You were a superstar.
00:38:08.000 Chad, my Zell, former chief of staff over at Maine Justice.
00:38:11.000 Raymond Ibrahim, your books, uh, sword and scimitar.
00:38:15.000 I tell everybody, you get to get all three sword and scimitar, which tells the whole story of the great war against the Christian West.
00:38:21.000 Uh, our Judeo-Christian civilization against, uh, Islam defenders of the West.
00:38:26.000 You take the individual stories. And this is one I give to young men all the time, um, and women and young women.
00:38:33.000 Uh, you're new that you're new when the two swords of Christ about the military orders from the Crusades.
00:38:39.000 But I want to ask you a contemporary problem. You're in Budapest right now.
00:38:43.000 You're a fellow over in the Institute of a country that got it right.
00:38:46.000 Hungary got it right. Poland got it right.
00:38:48.000 As you look on the situation in the streets, because now it's up in the open, the red green alliance.
00:38:53.000 People say, oh no, that's a crazy conspiracy theory because the Islamist, uh, in the Sharia law guys totally hate the Marxists, et cetera.
00:39:01.000 Is the red green alliance lie alive, sir. And you're in both in Europe and the United States.
00:39:08.000 Absolutely. Without, excuse me, without the red green alliance, especially the red portion, the green wouldn't even be a problem.
00:39:16.000 In other words, if you look specifically at Europe, let's say, what, why is Islam a problem?
00:39:21.000 Is it because they've come at the way they used to in the seventh, eighth and ninth centuries on with swords and horseback and there's nothing that Europeans can do?
00:39:29.000 No, they're there because the red alliance that they work for, which is also, also known as the Europe's leadership is bringing them in by the boatloads and, um, and doing everything to help them, including by suppressing their own citizens.
00:39:47.000 The people who actually voted them into power and putting them up in hotels and whatever the case may be, not allowing any kind of free speech or criticism of Islam.
00:39:55.000 So, absolutely, there's, you, you can, the Islamic threat to the West today, as opposed to yesterday, historically, is inconceivable without the green, excuse me, without the red helping the green.
00:40:07.000 Because this is not the medieval era where Europe was the weak horse, which it was actually, especially in the early centuries, and Islam was the behemoth.
00:40:16.000 This is now where the West is super powerful financially, economically, economically, militarily, technologically, every which way you can imagine, compared to, by and large, the backwards Islamic world.
00:40:27.000 And yet, these migrants are there in these countries, terrorizing people.
00:40:32.000 And how is that? Why is that? How could it come to be? It's entirely because of the red.
00:40:38.000 You know, you were on War Room Texas the other day, and the reception of that, I can tell you, because the show's on fire, the traction on this on the streaming side.
00:40:47.000 You really galvanized a lot of people and had them wake up when you said, this is civilizational warfare.
00:40:53.000 And you have to understand it as that. And it's much more sophisticated than blowing up buildings or the more standard jihadist moves you saw from a couple of years ago, a couple of decades ago.
00:41:05.000 Talk to us. What do you mean by civilizational warfare? Because you got people's attention when you said that.
00:41:10.000 Well, the problem is too many people have a sort of myopic view of what's happening, and they think these problems are just started, you know, now or a decade ago or two decades ago, and they think they're temporal by nature.
00:41:23.000 In fact, they are, you know, there's nothing new under the sun, as Ecclesiastes says.
00:41:28.000 Exactly everything we're seeing today in the West, the way Muslims are behaving, minus, of course, the red enablements that we just discussed, because that didn't really exist later on, but not in the pre-modern medieval era, because everyone was collectively fighting against Islam.
00:41:44.000 But what we're seeing is just a complete continuum of what started 14 centuries ago.
00:41:49.000 And so it is, in fact, a civilizational conflict.
00:41:53.000 Trump was absolutely right to call it that in his national strategy document that was published by the White House in November, where he said where he said Europe is suffering civilizational erasure.
00:42:05.000 OK, and that's exactly what's going on, minus countries like Budapest or the city of Budapest and Hungary, where I'm at right now, where they still have a strong collective sense of an identity of a Christian identity.
00:42:19.000 And, you know, by the way, a quick interesting note I think you'd be interested by is, you know how we always hear that white Christian nationalism fosters anti-Semitism?
00:42:29.000 Well, as it happens, a study came out that in Hungary and especially in Budapest, this is one of the safest place for Jews.
00:42:36.000 And it's also one of the most Christian and nationalist European nations.
00:42:41.000 OK, and on the other hand, if you look at where the rise of anti-Semitism is in Europe, it's primarily the main places that have seen a massive spike are the UK, Germany and France, all of which are not connected or seen in any which way as Christian nationalist countries, but actually as liberal secular nations.
00:42:59.000 And, you know, what does one make of that conundrum? You finally realize that the missing factor between all this is not that Christian nationalism is bad, nor is it necessarily that liberal secularism is bad.
00:43:09.000 It's that liberal secularism, though, opens the door to something that is bad for Jews, which is Islam.
00:43:15.000 And so if you look at France and the UK and Germany, they have the absolute highest population of Muslims in Europe.
00:43:22.000 And at the same time, the attacks on Jews in those three countries have spiked, as have the attacks on Christians, because another report that was published by the Observatory of Christian Christianophobia in Europe found another massive spike of attacks on Christians in Europe and mostly in the UK and in Germany and in France.
00:43:42.000 And the number one cause that it's cited that propels these attacks on Christians was what it calls radical Islamist ideology.
00:43:49.000 Hang on for one second. Raymond Ibrahim joins us live from Budapest. We'll return in the moment.
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00:46:51.000 Raymond Abraham, uh, your books, you've got sword and scimitar, which the overall 1400 war we had defenders of the West, which are the heroes in that fight.
00:47:01.000 Your new book, tell me, give me a minute or two on your new book about the two sorts of Christ.
00:47:05.000 You can't put it down, particularly if you're a Christian, you need this.
00:47:08.000 Yeah, this is a close up panoramic view of the Crusades through the scene through the lives and the eyes of the most, uh, the commando forces of the Crusades, essentially, which were the Knights of the temple and the hospital, the military orders.
00:47:23.000 And I think people will be shocked to see what the, what the Crusades really were, as opposed to how they're sort of, uh, um, you know, uh, caricatured both in movies and in actual, uh, supposedly set secondary histories that are supposed to be serious.
00:47:39.000 But these were men who, what I found interesting about them and what I think readers will find interesting is that on the one hand, they were extremely committed, pious Christians.
00:47:46.000 And on the other hand, they weren't what pious Christians are today, which is doormats.
00:47:51.000 They were actually the exact opposite.
00:47:53.000 They were ferocious defenders of the faith.
00:47:56.000 Um, and they found no conflict between the two.
00:47:59.000 And in fact, they had multiple ways to rationalize it directly through scripture.
00:48:04.000 I want this book, not just for yourself will inspire you, but also if you have a young man in your life, get this book for him, either defenders of the West, which is the story of 10 of them from El Cid, uh, all the way through to even Vlad the impaler, which kind of gets, he, he's gotten a bad rap in history as Dracula is a bad rap.
00:48:29.000 But you got to read the book and, uh, the, the military orders are fascinating.
00:48:35.000 The, the people, the Knights hospitalar from St. John's St. John's.
00:48:39.000 And of course the Knights Templar is just, and they'll learn a ton of history, but they'll also be inspired by some, uh, some men that were just quite extraordinary and defended their faith.
00:48:48.000 Like I said, they weren't doormats.
00:48:49.000 You're in Hungary and you're, you're now been invited.
00:48:52.000 You're a senior fellow at the Danube Institute, uh, and Orban, who obviously we're close to and think the world of, he stood in the breach and the Hungarians backed him up and said, no, we're not going to have this happen to our country.
00:49:05.000 And you see the problems everywhere else, except in Poland and Hungary.
00:49:08.000 Hungary generally is France in England too far gone is the population is the Islam Islamic population too high.
00:49:17.000 Cause this is what people in Texas asked all the time.
00:49:19.000 They're saying, we see, uh, the guests you have on there talking.
00:49:23.000 We see in the streets, we see the footage, what's happening in England.
00:49:26.000 We see what's happening in France.
00:49:27.000 We're not going to have that.
00:49:28.000 Not that we hope it doesn't happen.
00:49:29.000 We're not going to have that in Texas.
00:49:31.000 Are those two countries too far gone?
00:49:33.000 Uh, or can they sort this problem out with Islam, sir?
00:49:36.000 Well, they are too far gone and I'll elaborate, but actually I'd like to talk a little bit about your earlier point about Hungary.
00:49:43.000 Um, and Orban, you know, what's interesting and what's beneficial to us today is that if you recall over 10 years ago, around 2014 and 2015, that's when the American people were first introduced to Victor Orban, um, of Hungary.
00:49:57.000 And why?
00:49:58.000 Because the media was demonizing him as the next Hitler.
00:50:01.000 Okay.
00:50:02.000 He was, uh, I remember everything I saw and I wrote about him back then.
00:50:05.000 He was just described as this horrible human being, a monster and a creeping dictator.
00:50:10.000 That's a direct quote.
00:50:11.000 The guardian said he needs to be eliminated and taken out.
00:50:14.000 Okay.
00:50:15.000 So he was the next literally Hitler.
00:50:17.000 And, um, why?
00:50:18.000 Because he refused to take in Muslim migrants.
00:50:20.000 He made the civilizational argument all the way 10 years ago saying, this is about civilizations.
00:50:25.000 We've lived under Islamic occupation for 150 years.
00:50:28.000 We don't want it.
00:50:29.000 And he said, France and Belgium and whoever wants it, they can have it.
00:50:33.000 Okay.
00:50:34.000 Okay.
00:50:35.000 Now what's good about that is if you fast forward 10 years, now we can actually evaluate what
00:50:38.000 he said and his position with what has happened.
00:50:41.000 And what has happened is a complete disaster for all those other countries that did take
00:50:46.000 in large numbers of Muslim populations, as we can see.
00:50:49.000 Um, and as he made a very good point in speaking of, uh, you know, right around Christmas, he, he sent
00:50:54.000 a tweet basically saying we, the Hungarians are paying a million or something euros a day as penalty
00:51:00.000 because they don't take in the Muslim migrants, but it's worth it because look, we can actually have
00:51:05.000 a normal Christmas.
00:51:07.000 Whereas in the rest of Europe, uh, Christmas markets were, were canceled.
00:51:11.000 There were barriers everywhere.
00:51:13.000 The entire, uh, you know, uh, traditional field was gone.
00:51:16.000 There were no statues or crosses because they might offend certain people who did in fact,
00:51:21.000 uh, destroy nativity scenes and whatnot.
00:51:24.000 So, you know, he, time has proven his position correct.
00:51:27.000 But to your other question about France and, uh, you know, the UK, what they have to understand
00:51:32.000 is they have reached the point of no return.
00:51:34.000 In other words, someone like Orban and his policy in Poland, they, they nipped it in the
00:51:40.000 bud.
00:51:41.000 They said from the beginning, okay.
00:51:42.000 And it was easy.
00:51:43.000 They said, we don't want Muslim migrants.
00:51:44.000 And that was it.
00:51:45.000 There was no conflict nations like these other Western European nations who've taken
00:51:49.000 in millions and they have very large Muslim populations, well over 10%.
00:51:53.000 I think they tried to intentionally hide it and make it sound smaller.
00:51:56.000 They're stuck with it.
00:51:57.000 In other words, no matter what they do, if they all become Victor Orban tomorrow, they
00:52:02.000 still have to always live with a huge Muslim population in their country.
00:52:07.000 And that's always going to be a problem.
00:52:09.000 And that's, that's what we don't want.
00:52:10.000 It's the 15, it's the, it's the 15, the 15 or 20 million that, uh, here I got to bounce.
00:52:17.000 Where do people go to get you at the Danube Institute?
00:52:19.000 Where they go to the website, the books and social media, brother, you've been an inspiration
00:52:22.000 to the folks in Texas and the United States.
00:52:25.000 Thanks very much, Steve.
00:52:27.000 Uh, one place place is just easy.
00:52:28.000 My name Raymond Ibrahim, R-A-Y-M-O-N-D-I-B-R-A-H-I-N.com.
00:52:33.000 That's my website.
00:52:34.000 You'll find links to everything, social media, X, Getter, my books, and also my YouTube
00:52:40.000 channel.
00:52:41.000 But be sure to check that out too.
00:52:43.000 Thanks, Steve.
00:52:44.000 Thank you, brother.
00:52:46.000 Let's get the book, Two Swords of Christ.
00:52:50.000 The Charlie Kirk Show is next.
00:52:53.000 Post those after that.
00:52:54.000 We're back here at 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
00:52:57.000 It's going to be wild.
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