Bannon's War Room - January 30, 2026


Episode 5107： Todd Blanche Addresses The Epstein Field; Powermoves By Xi And The Chinese Military


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Jan Jekalak of The American Thought Leaders joins us to talk about the Chinese Communist Party's attempt to consolidate power under President Xi Jinping, and what it means for the future of the country and its future in the world.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.740 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:13.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:17.260 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:19.180 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.620 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:22.360 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:23.300 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.560 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.940 Mega Media.
00:00:28.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.740 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.500 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.900 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:51.440 Friday, 30 January, Year of the Lord, 2026.
00:00:54.840 Now, Jan Jekalak, Order to Kill, over at, has got the American Thought Leaders, a magnificent show.
00:01:04.120 You're over at Epoch Times, NTD, the television station, all of our friends over there and colleagues, part of the anti-CCP movement.
00:01:12.060 Somehow on this one, because we've got Prescott's about to stop, I'm going to get as far through this as we can, and then you're going to hang around.
00:01:20.160 So when it finishes, you're going to come back.
00:01:22.460 Order to Kill, this situation with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:01:26.700 And by the way, let me ask you first what I got you.
00:01:29.120 Does all this running around, because I've had a thousand people all over me.
00:01:32.740 Why aren't you talking about it?
00:01:33.540 I said, well, look, first of all, I want to figure it out.
00:01:36.060 Xi's being overthrown by the military.
00:01:37.960 There's gun battles in Beijing, in the Forbidden City.
00:01:41.420 Xi's just consolidating power.
00:01:44.140 You're one of the smartest observers.
00:01:45.940 And you, like me, are dedicated to having Lao Bajing's back to take these animals, because they're true savages, to take them down and throw them in the dust heap of history.
00:01:56.100 What is your take on what's happened in Beijing over the last couple of days, between the military and President Xi?
00:02:04.300 Well, Steve, it's actually a really unprecedented moment.
00:02:08.120 I mean, I was just talking with one of my top, top analysts, Hung He, about these realities.
00:02:14.800 I mean, he says it's sort of a once-in-a-generation or once-in-a-decade shift that's just happened.
00:02:19.700 I mean, really, what happened is that Xi Jinping managed to purge the top of the top of the military commission, Zhang Yuxia.
00:02:31.440 So this is actually a professional leader of the military.
00:02:35.040 This is the guy who actually knew how to run the military.
00:02:39.140 This is a situation where five of the seven of the top military leaders, and we're talking the top, top, have actually been purged by Xi Jinping.
00:02:47.260 Okay, going back about a year now, right, there was all this kerfuffle and so forth happening there.
00:02:53.160 This was the military basically trying to take, and they took a bunch of control from Xi.
00:02:57.660 This right now is Xi punching back, okay?
00:03:00.860 But here's the scary part.
00:03:03.120 Xi basically has broken, as Hung He described, the kind of the unwritten rules of the party.
00:03:10.360 There's certain things, there's certain ways, though, even in a mafia or something, that things need to work.
00:03:15.180 Xi Jinping has just kind of torn that apart in his quest to achieve that total power that he's looking for.
00:03:22.520 And in the process, the bureaucracy itself, the kind of the whole system under him is now wondering what to do, what alliance is going to have, what way can I save myself from being purged?
00:03:32.140 It's not clear that there's a way out.
00:03:34.260 So, I mean, it's a really profound moment, and it's not really something that we've seen in a very long time, perhaps as far back as, you know, Mao Zedong being purged to a degree.
00:03:45.860 Because Xi up to now, he's made himself president for life.
00:03:52.280 All the rules of it, all the rules they had, the systems they had after Deng Xiaoping, has this started?
00:03:59.140 Okay, let's, Jan, hang on for one second.
00:04:01.620 We're going to go to main justice for a moment.
00:04:03.360 The investigations and prosecutions of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:04:11.200 I'm here today to talk about the department's compliance with its production obligations under the act.
00:04:17.620 Around, I think, right now, and continuing throughout the day-to-day, as the indexing and uploading completes, we are producing responsive materials under the act.
00:04:28.520 We are also releasing today a letter we are transmitting to Congress and various internal protocols associated with our review.
00:04:37.840 I want to take a moment to thank the professionals at the Department of Justice, who met twice daily, sometimes more, for the last 75 days to get to where we are today.
00:04:49.660 The leadership teams from the Office of the Attorney General, from the Deputy Attorney General's Office, the Associate Attorney General's Office, the Criminal Division, the National Security Division, the FBI, the Southern District of Florida, the Southern District of New York, and the Northern District of New York,
00:05:06.820 all gave up many hours every single day, on top of their other, of course, full-time obligations to fulfill President Trump's promise of transparency to the American people.
00:05:19.460 I also want to thank the more than 500 lawyers and professionals across all those divisions that I just mentioned, and others, who worked long days, nights, weekends, Christmas, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, nights, weekends, and holidays to complete this production.
00:05:38.620 These highly trained reviewers spend their careers putting bad guys in jail and effectuating the mission of the department.
00:05:49.340 And to a person, they worked tirelessly to protect victims and comply with the act since its passage.
00:05:55.360 So thank you to all of them.
00:05:58.780 Today, we are producing more than 3 million pages, including more than 2,000 videos and 180,000 images.
00:06:08.620 In total, that means that the department produced approximately 3.5 million pages in compliance with the act.
00:06:16.920 Just a quick note about the videos and images.
00:06:21.080 The 2,000 videos and 180,000 images are not all videos and images taken by Mr. Epstein or someone around him.
00:06:30.980 They include large quantities of commercial pornography and images that were seized from Epstein's devices,
00:06:38.180 but which he did not take or that someone around him did not take.
00:06:43.420 Some of the videos, though, and some of the images do appear to be taken by Mr. Epstein or by others around him.
00:06:52.080 Now, I want to talk for a few minutes about the department's document identification and review protocols.
00:06:58.440 It consisted of multiple layers of review and quality control designed to ensure compliance under the act and protect victims.
00:07:09.040 On top of the review protocols that the department had in place,
00:07:14.180 the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York employed an additional review protocol
00:07:20.240 to ensure compliance with a court order requiring United States Attorney Jay Clayton to certify
00:07:26.760 that with respect to certain materials, a large quantity of the materials,
00:07:30.560 a rigorous process was undertaken to protect victims against any clearly unwarranted invasion of their personal privacy.
00:07:40.260 The department's collection effort resulted in more than 6 million pages being identified as potentially responsive,
00:07:47.660 including department and FBI emails, interview summaries, images, videos, and various other materials
00:07:53.860 collected and generated during the various investigations and prosecutions that the act covered.
00:07:59.920 We erred on the side of over-collection of materials from various sources to best ensure maximum transparency and compliance,
00:08:09.180 which necessarily means that the number of responsive pages is significantly smaller than the total number of pages initially collected.
00:08:17.360 That's why I mentioned a moment ago we're releasing more than 3 million pages today
00:08:21.600 and not the 6 million pages that we collected.
00:08:27.160 I want to address what we didn't produce.
00:08:30.700 The categories of documents withheld include those permitted under the act to be withheld,
00:08:35.820 files that contain personally identified information of victims or victims' personal and medical files,
00:08:43.000 and similar files, the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.
00:08:48.600 Any depiction of CSAM or child pornography was obviously excluded.
00:08:55.180 Anything that would jeopardize an active federal investigation.
00:08:59.200 And finally, anything that depicts or contain images of death, physical abuse, or injury, also not produced.
00:09:06.380 Although the act allows for withholding for items necessary to keep secret in the interest of national security or foreign policy,
00:09:15.560 no files are being withheld or redacted on that basis.
00:09:20.540 Further, as we previously stated in our December 19th letter of last year,
00:09:25.480 the department withheld or redacted files covered by various privileges, as we always do,
00:09:31.480 including deliberative process privilege, work product privilege, and attorney-client privilege.
00:09:37.180 As you all know, under the act, the department must subsequently submit to the House and Senate committees on the judiciary
00:09:42.800 a report listing all categories of records released and withheld,
00:09:46.780 a summary of redactions made, including the legal basis for such redactions,
00:09:50.760 and a list of all government officials and politically exposed persons named or referenced in the act.
00:09:57.780 We will do so in due course as required under the act.
00:10:02.460 I want to talk for just a moment about the redactions that will be obvious to anyone who reviews the materials that we just produced today.
00:10:10.800 In addition to the documentary redactions, which includes personal identifying information, victim information, and other privileges,
00:10:20.500 there is extensive redactions to images and videos.
00:10:24.960 To protect victims, we redacted every woman depicted in any image or video, with the exception of Ms. Maxwell.
00:10:34.480 We did not redact images of any men, unless it was impossible to redact the woman without also redacting the man.
00:10:44.440 To this end, though, and to ensure transparency, if any member of Congress wishes to review any portions of the response of production
00:10:53.300 in any unredacted form, they're welcome to make arrangements with the department to do so, and we're happy to do that.
00:11:00.080 I want to talk for a minute about something that is important.
00:11:05.900 Every single day of the year, the Department of Justice investigates and prosecutes those who abuse and traffic young women and children.
00:11:15.640 Just last year, the FBI located over 2,700 victims of child exploitation.
00:11:22.060 The Department of Justice found and terminated 3.8 million dark web pedophile accounts.
00:11:31.340 In August, we charged 11 defendants for extensive sex trafficking in Los Angeles of illegal immigrants and underage women.
00:11:39.600 Last month, we charged five men who were engaged in a sadistic sextortion network of deranged young men abusing women.
00:11:46.800 Over the past several months, last summer and into the fall, we executed Operation Restore Justice,
00:11:55.100 rescuing 205 child victims and arresting 293 offenders.
00:12:00.340 I point this out because I take umbrage at the suggestion, which is totally false,
00:12:05.960 that the Attorney General or this department does not take child exploitation or sex trafficking seriously,
00:12:12.440 or that we somehow do not want to protect victims.
00:12:16.540 We do.
00:12:18.260 There are some select members of Congress and some in the public eye,
00:12:22.660 including those most critical of our efforts at full transparency under the act,
00:12:27.460 who remain silent as to all the work that we have done and continue to do every day in this space.
00:12:33.820 while quickly pointing a finger at the Attorney General or this department
00:12:40.080 because we were careful in our review of millions of pages of documents over the past two months.
00:12:47.200 The Attorney General, the Director of the FBI, and our partners throughout this administration
00:12:53.060 work hard every single day to protect the most vulnerable among us.
00:12:57.920 With the production of this magnitude, mistakes are inevitable.
00:13:01.140 We, of course, want to immediately correct any redaction errors that our team may have made.
00:13:07.640 And so the department has established an email inbox for victims to reach us directly
00:13:11.980 to correct redactions and any concerns when appropriate.
00:13:16.080 That's been in existence since December, and we've been doing that since then.
00:13:22.480 Finally, a very small portion of the documents collected pursuant to the act
00:13:27.080 include materials that a law firm produced to the SDNY in 2019 pursuant to a grand jury subpoena.
00:13:34.180 This was during the criminal investigation of Ms. Maxwell.
00:13:38.420 We determined it would be prudent to seek an order from the court in the Southern District of New York
00:13:43.360 seeking production of these materials subject to the protective order in that civil lawsuit.
00:13:47.840 To that end, the department has filed that motion with the appropriate judge and the SDNY,
00:13:53.340 and if that motion is granted, we'll release those materials with appropriate redactions immediately.
00:14:00.620 Today's release marks the end of a very comprehensive document identification and review process
00:14:06.600 to ensure transparency to the American people and compliance with the act.
00:14:11.500 The department has engaged in an unprecedented and extensive effort to do so.
00:14:17.440 After submitting the final report to Congress as required under the act
00:14:21.760 and publishing the written justifications for redactions in the Federal Register,
00:14:26.560 the department's obligations under the act will be completed.
00:14:32.120 I'm happy to take any questions anybody has about that.
00:14:36.260 Todd, I'd like to ask you about this, and I have a Minnesota question for you.
00:14:41.620 On the Epstein release today, it was recently made public that Ghislaine Maxwell claims
00:14:48.200 more than two dozen men signed secret agreements with the federal government not to be prosecuted.
00:14:55.260 What is your reaction to that, and what does that mean for her case?
00:14:58.300 I read an article that described, I wasn't aware that it was actual men that she's claiming.
00:15:04.780 I thought it was accomplices, which I'm not sure if that's a reference to some of the financial institutions
00:15:12.620 or other individuals that...
00:15:14.840 So, yes, I don't have a reaction to her filing.
00:15:19.700 I can tell you that we reviewed, as I just described, every single piece of paper
00:15:26.100 that we have associated with these investigations, Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell.
00:15:33.240 And to the extent that such arrangements exist, I'm not aware of them.
00:15:38.660 And on to Minnesota, if I may ask you real quick, that's in the topic in the headlines right now.
00:15:42.920 There's new video of a man believed to be Alex Kredi, who's spitting, who's kicking out a taillight of a law enforcement vehicle.
00:15:52.260 Does that change the perception of a potential DOJ investigation?
00:15:57.080 Is there going to be a civil rights investigation into his death?
00:16:01.180 Where does that land now that that video's out?
00:16:03.580 Then I have a quick follow-up on that.
00:16:04.840 I don't... So, look, I don't think a single video should change any perception the Department of Justice may or may not have
00:16:12.400 about that tragic occurrence last Saturday.
00:16:15.740 We've said repeatedly over the past week that, of course, this is something that we're investigating, and we are.
00:16:23.500 That's what we would always do in circumstances like this.
00:16:28.160 And so there's an investigation that's ongoing, which I'm not going to talk about.
00:16:31.980 But just, look, the problem is an initial reaction to a particular video, one or another.
00:16:39.920 You're talking about one that happened apparently some days ahead of last Saturday.
00:16:46.260 It's an investigation.
00:16:47.640 So an investigation necessarily means just that.
00:16:51.220 It means talking to witnesses.
00:16:52.760 It means looking at documentary evidence, sending subpoenas if you have to.
00:16:56.220 And the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division has the best experts in the world at this.
00:17:03.460 They've been doing it for decades.
00:17:05.220 And so I expect that that investigation will proceed with those parameters in mind.
00:17:10.980 Are you looking at a nexus of left-wing groups?
00:17:13.840 This DOJ said that that's something that you guys were concerned about.
00:17:17.480 Are you following money?
00:17:18.660 Are you looking at a potential that all of this may be related somewhere?
00:17:24.060 I mean, yes.
00:17:26.540 Thank you, Mr. Deputy Attorney General.
00:17:28.380 You said in your remarks that you've withheld some documents because of ongoing investigations.
00:17:34.640 I've done this long enough to know you can't comment on ongoing investigations.
00:17:38.560 But can you say a little bit more?
00:17:40.620 Because as you know, the Department has been criticized for not bringing charges against more people.
00:17:45.100 Are there still open investigations related to Jeffrey Epstein?
00:17:49.820 So what I was laying out in my comments is the statutory, what the statute talks about, about what we can withhold and the reasons we can withhold it.
00:18:00.120 I wasn't pointing to any particular.
00:18:01.880 I wasn't trying to be coy or otherwise suggest there's some investigation.
00:18:06.980 As you all know, Jay Clayton in New York is in charge of any potential investigations.
00:18:15.440 And I'm not going to comment beyond that on that.
00:18:17.560 You were referring to Clayton.
00:18:18.600 Excuse me?
00:18:19.140 You were referring to Clayton's investigation.
00:18:21.120 I wasn't referring to anything.
00:18:22.300 I was just saying that Congress, in their wisdom, allowed us to withhold documents if there were ongoing criminal investigations.
00:18:29.580 That's one of the four reasons.
00:18:31.680 I wanted to make clear with respect to any national security information that we were not withholding.
00:18:38.340 There's not some tranche of super secret documents about Jeffrey Epstein that we're withholding.
00:18:43.740 We're actually not withholding anything based upon NDI.
00:18:47.480 Deputy Attorney General Prance, thank you for your time.
00:18:50.180 Two questions for you.
00:18:52.040 Number one, pushing politics aside and everyone else aside, some of the victims of Epstein have expressed frustration with the entire process.
00:19:00.540 I want to give you the opportunity to speak directly to them.
00:19:04.080 Well, I don't know what you're speaking to.
00:19:06.680 I mean, if there's frustration with, quote, the entire process, same here.
00:19:11.920 I mean, you have a situation where for many, many years nobody even breathed a word about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:19:18.440 And then all of a sudden it was all anybody would talk about going into last spring and summer, culminating in the passage of the Transparency Act.
00:19:26.100 And President Trump has said for years what I think everybody will find to be exactly true, which is detailing his relationship and lack thereof with Mr. Epstein and what he thought about Mr. Epstein.
00:19:39.040 And notwithstanding what the department has been saying for a very long time, we're still where we are today.
00:19:46.320 Listen, victims of Mr. Epstein have gone through unspeakable pain.
00:19:52.820 And there's nobody that should say anything differently.
00:19:56.320 And to the extent that there's frustration, I understand where that comes from, just from what we know about Mr. Epstein.
00:20:05.340 I mean, I hope that the work that the men and women within this department have done over the past two months hopefully is able to bring closure.
00:20:16.760 I think that what we told our reviewers is that that was the goal.
00:20:23.140 You know, there's this mantra out there that, oh, you know, the Department of Justice is supposed to protect Donald J. Trump.
00:20:29.620 And that's what we were telling. That's not true. That was never the case.
00:20:33.360 We are always concerned about the victims.
00:20:35.720 When we said that we were not legally allowed to release documents, that's a fact.
00:20:40.920 That was true. It remains true today.
00:20:43.000 And then with the Acts passage, we are able now and directed to release documents, which is what we are doing.
00:20:48.860 But so hopefully some of those frustrations are now eased.
00:20:55.600 Listen, any victim that wants to speak with the department has done so, hopefully.
00:21:02.560 If not, they should.
00:21:03.960 The prosecutors from this case in New York have given hundreds, if not thousands, of hours to working with victims.
00:21:12.220 And that's what we do every day.
00:21:13.880 And that's what we did in this case as well.
00:21:15.460 Very quickly, can you assure the American public that President Trump, like every other prominent person whose name came up in relation to the Epstein files,
00:21:26.340 that all documents, photos, and anything relevant to him connected to the case are being released?
00:21:33.260 I mean, yes, I can assure that we complied with the statute.
00:21:37.000 We complied with the act.
00:21:38.700 And there is no, we did not protect President Trump.
00:21:42.700 We didn't protect or not protect anybody.
00:21:45.140 I mean, I think that we, that there's a hunger or a thirst for information that I do not think will be satisfied by the review of these documents.
00:21:54.400 And there's nothing I can do about that.
00:21:57.660 But President Trump, of all the people in Washington, D.C. and around this country that have said for years the same consistent message about Jeffrey Epstein is President Trump.
00:22:09.720 And so there's not been a change of course or anything.
00:22:12.500 And certainly his direction to the American people and the Department of Justice, sorry, his direction to the Department of Justice was to be as transparent, release the files, be as transparent as we can.
00:22:22.560 And that's exactly what we did.
00:22:26.000 I want to clarify your remarks on the Alex Petty killing.
00:22:28.880 Are you saying that the Justice Department has opened a civil rights investigation into his death?
00:22:33.640 Yes.
00:22:34.820 Yeah, I mean, look, and I know there's a lot of, there's been a lot of discussion among the media around that.
00:22:39.260 But, but just think about what that means.
00:22:41.560 All that that means is that DHS, as they've, as the secretary has said, is conducting an investigation as they should and as they do every time there's, there's a tragic event like this.
00:22:52.380 And the FBI in their role, which is a separate role from DHS, is, is also take looking into it and conducting investigation.
00:23:00.340 And, and that's not, that shouldn't be treated as, as, as making news.
00:23:06.620 It's just, we, we've said that for a week and it remains as true today as it was last Sunday when I said it.
00:23:12.020 Two questions for you, one on topic and one separate.
00:23:14.680 Can I speak up a little bit?
00:23:15.360 Yeah, two questions for you, one on topic and one separate.
00:23:18.160 On topic, do you have any information that you could just share?
00:23:21.940 Because three million documents is a lot for people who are watching this at home.
00:23:24.620 Are there any new names or new people, public people in positions of power who you're not being found in these filings?
00:23:31.580 I don't have anything to share about what's new or not new.
00:23:34.840 And there's, no, I don't have anything to share about that.
00:23:37.960 And to follow up on that, do you have a reaction to the arrest of Don Lemon overnight?
00:23:42.240 Do you have a reaction to what?
00:23:43.280 To Don Lemon's arrest overnight?
00:23:45.480 Do I have a reaction to it?
00:23:47.500 I don't know what that means.
00:23:48.640 What are you looking for me to do, jump up and down?
00:23:50.780 No, I don't have a reaction to it.
00:23:52.040 I don't know that his, that the charges are unsealed yet.
00:23:54.620 So, no, I can't, I'm not going to comment on that.
00:23:58.820 Thank you.
00:24:00.360 You said this is the end of the Epstein, of your review of the Epstein files.
00:24:04.420 So, just to clarify, is the public going to learn the identities of the men who abused the girls with the information that you're releasing?
00:24:14.820 And if not, why not?
00:24:16.900 And then I have a quick follow-up.
00:24:18.440 You just baked in an assumption into your question that I have never said and I don't know to be true.
00:24:23.360 Is the public going to learn about men that abused these girls?
00:24:28.240 Like, what does that mean?
00:24:29.380 I mean, I don't understand what that means.
00:24:30.360 Well, I mean, the men who abused the young women through Epstein's, through Epstein's.
00:24:40.020 Look, we said in July, and it remains as true today as it was in July, if we had information, we meaning the Department of Justice, about men who abused women, we would prosecute them.
00:24:53.840 Right?
00:24:54.400 We talked about the work that we're doing.
00:24:55.880 That's why I said that.
00:24:56.880 I said this earlier.
00:24:58.280 There's this built-in assumption that somehow there's this hidden tranche of information of men that we know about that we're covering up or that we're choosing not to prosecute.
00:25:08.200 That is not the case.
00:25:09.400 I don't know whether there are men out there that abuse these women. 1.00
00:25:12.640 And if we learn about information and evidence that allows us to prosecute them, you better believe we will.
00:25:18.660 But I don't think that the public or you all are going to uncover men within the Epstein files that abuse women, unfortunately.
00:25:30.200 Okay, then just to follow up.
00:25:31.580 On the investigation into Federal Chairman Jerome Powell, is the Justice Department, what's the status of that investigation?
00:25:40.400 Now that President Trump has nominated a new Fed chair, is the Justice Department looking to bring a close to the investigation into Chairman Powell's as soon as possible?
00:25:51.560 I don't have a comment on that, on the subpoenas that were issued.
00:25:55.320 I don't think the timing of President Trump's decision to nominate somebody is a controlling factor in any investigation.
00:26:04.880 Hi, I just wanted to follow up on Alana's question.
00:26:07.580 So you're saying that the shooting investigation of Alex Preddy is now a civil rights investigation.
00:26:14.360 You're saying, you're implying that that's always been the case.
00:26:19.000 Can you also say, has that, what about the shooting of Renee Goode?
00:26:23.460 I mean, is she, is that, why or why not is that a civil rights investigation?
00:26:27.440 I didn't say it was always the case.
00:26:28.740 I said it's the same thing that we said as of last Sunday, with respect to last weekend.
00:26:33.040 There are thousands, unfortunately, of law enforcement events every year where somebody is shot.
00:26:42.420 The civil rights division of the Department of Justice does not investigate every one of those shootings.
00:26:48.820 There has to be circumstances or facts, or maybe unknown facts, but certainly circumstances that warrant an investigation.
00:26:56.700 So, when we talked about, when I talked about last weekend, and when others have talked about this week,
00:27:04.440 the fact that President Trump has said repeatedly, of course this is something we're going to investigate,
00:27:09.480 that's what I meant about what we're doing.
00:27:11.160 It doesn't mean that every time that there's a federal officer-related shooting,
00:27:16.700 that that's something civil rights takes up. 0.61
00:27:19.640 It depends on the circumstances.
00:27:20.880 Can you just follow up on that?
00:27:22.200 Can you just, I know you can't be specific about details of the investigation,
00:27:25.520 but can you kind of just characterize the scope of the Preddy investigation,
00:27:28.740 what kinds of things that they'll be looking for, and who will be involved?
00:27:33.160 Well, I mean, it's an investigation, so what do we think we're looking at?
00:27:37.560 We're looking at everything that would shed light on what happened that day,
00:27:42.500 and in the days and weeks leading up to what happened,
00:27:45.040 and that's like any investigation that the Department of Justice and the FBI does every day.
00:27:51.000 It means we're looking at videos, talking to witnesses, trying to understand what happened.
00:27:57.040 I mean, you're talking about an incredibly tragic morning,
00:28:02.340 and then trying to unwind and investigate that, it takes a lot of time.
00:28:07.220 I'm not going to prejudice what they're doing or not doing by laying any markers,
00:28:12.380 but I expect that the folks that are doing this are the most experienced in this space and are doing that.
00:28:18.760 Yeah, so to follow up on that, how would a civil rights investigation work with DHS taking the lead,
00:28:24.760 which is what was said over the weekend, and are prosecutors in Minnesota, I mean, who is involved in this?
00:28:31.660 We know that there's a lot of frustration within the department, both in Minnesota and the Civil Rights Division,
00:28:36.320 that they feel they are not being brought in and they are the experts here.
00:28:39.260 So just to follow up, how would this work with DHS taking the lead,
00:28:43.740 and who is, from DOJ, involved in this investigation?
00:28:47.440 I don't think that – look, I think any time there's a – every single federal agency, including DHS,
00:28:53.460 has a process that they use when there's something like this that happens,
00:28:56.220 an internal review, investigation, however you want to call it.
00:29:00.440 That's what DHS was doing, as they do every single time something like this happened.
00:29:05.480 There was nothing unique to these facts. There might have been outsized focus on it because of what happened.
00:29:11.540 But DHS was doing an investigation. I don't know that that will stop.
00:29:15.100 I don't expect that investigation to stop because we're investigating, and of course we're coordinating with them.
00:29:19.920 We're not – there's nothing – we're not working against them.
00:29:22.320 But it's a – there's, I suppose, potentially separate goals or potential goals in the two investigations.
00:29:30.880 I mean, DHS is conducting an investigation, and then the FBI conducts an investigation.
00:29:36.920 It's not as if one goes one way and one goes the other, but they are their own investigations.
00:29:41.180 You very clearly said on Sunday that HSI is leading the investigation, and he did not want to overstep and say anything.
00:29:47.700 Was that not true anymore, or was that true at the time?
00:29:50.880 I don't – I don't think it's fair to say whether it's true anymore, okay?
00:29:54.760 And I don't think it's also – I don't want to say who's lead or not lead.
00:29:59.380 I don't even really know what that means in the course of an investigation.
00:30:02.620 There's – the FBI is investigating.
00:30:04.040 They are for sure coordinating with Secretary Noem and her folks as well, and I expect DHS is also continuing their investigation to some extent.
00:30:13.880 And there's outsized focus on this.
00:30:15.500 This happens, like I said, thousands of times a year, and it is tragic every single time it happens.
00:30:21.860 And it's tragic this time like it's tragic every other time.
00:30:24.360 And so there is a process that has to be allowed to play out internally with these law enforcement organizations and certainly with the FBI as well to allow this investigation to go on.
00:30:36.540 You've talked about the expectations surrounding the Epstein files.
00:30:40.600 Do you agree that the DOJ itself, senior officials at the DOJ, played up those expectations for the first half of this year?
00:30:47.560 I'm just sort of trying to understand what responsibility does the Justice Department have for the criticism that has come over the handling of the Epstein files?
00:30:58.420 I'm not commenting on criticism.
00:31:00.240 People can criticize all they want.
00:31:01.840 My point was just to make plain that when it comes to what we've been doing the past two months and why we weren't able to complete the review of over six million pages.
00:31:13.460 Okay, so you're talking about two Eiffel Towers, okay, of pages in 30 days in a way that made sure we complied with the Act, right?
00:31:22.120 So the Act had multiple requirements.
00:31:24.920 Get it done in 30 days, and you better not release any victim information.
00:31:30.600 All right, so there's a lot of statutory construction.
00:31:33.480 There's a lot of case law that exists that says that if those two are in conflict, we obviously are not violating the 30-day requirement by taking our time to comply with the Act.
00:31:44.040 And so my comments were directed at this idea that because we didn't review the six-plus million pages within 30 days, somehow the Attorney General doesn't care about victims or is further doing damage to victims because of that, because exactly the opposite is true when it comes to the Attorney General.
00:32:04.900 Sir, I have questions on Epstein and Minnesota, first on Minnesota.
00:32:09.980 For transparency, would you commit to releasing the body cam video from federal officers that was involved in that shooting and their names at a point when the investigation can allow that?
00:32:23.560 Would you make that public?
00:32:25.260 And I did not hear clarity on whether Rene Good's case is also in the civil rights realm.
00:32:30.980 I'm not committing to anything with respect to that investigation.
00:32:35.520 That would be completely unfair to the investigation itself for me to stand here and commit to something for any reason.
00:32:42.960 It just depends.
00:32:44.000 It depends on what happens with the investigation, and that's a decision that was made by the folks that are working the investigation.
00:32:51.420 As it relates to Ms. Good, I don't, like I said before, there's investigations that happen all the time with respect to shootings like what happened last Saturday, and cases are handled differently by this department depending on the circumstances.
00:33:08.520 And on, sir, on Epstein, sir, if I may just ask one on that, please, you mentioned a letter to Congress.
00:33:15.700 How and to whom did you notify the White House about the production that you're announcing today before you came out and spoke to us?
00:33:23.500 How did I do what?
00:33:24.460 Notify the White House.
00:33:25.460 What was your interface with the White House?
00:33:27.040 You said there's a letter to Congress.
00:33:29.020 Who did you update at the White House about this?
00:33:32.660 Well, I don't know.
00:33:35.240 I don't really understand the question.
00:33:36.520 You mean who did I update the White House?
00:33:37.760 Yeah, did you provide them an explanation of what today's release would be?
00:33:43.020 Look, my team has certain communications with the White House.
00:33:48.460 Let me just be clear.
00:33:49.480 They had nothing to do with this review.
00:33:51.380 They had no oversight over this review.
00:33:53.340 They did not tell this department how to do our review, what to look for, what to redact, what to not redact.
00:34:00.220 They absolutely knew that I was doing this press conference today and that we were releasing the materials today.
00:34:05.580 But there's no oversight by the White House into the process that we've undertaken over the past 60 days.
00:34:13.640 I wanted to ask a question about the evidence in the Alex Preddy investigation.
00:34:18.140 Early on, our reporting showed that the only type of evidence that the FBI initially had in its possession that it was processing for ballistics and DNA, etc., was Preddy's firearm.
00:34:29.960 It did not have the two firearms that were used to shoot Preddy.
00:34:34.520 Those were in the hands of HSI and also there were concerns about chain of custody, things not being properly bagged and tagged, etc.
00:34:42.640 Where are the guns now?
00:34:44.600 Are they in the FBI's possession and being reviewed at one of their labs?
00:34:48.440 And who has the phone that Preddy was using and filming?
00:34:53.220 And is that going to be reviewed by the FBI?
00:34:55.060 I don't know.
00:34:55.640 I don't have an answer to those questions.
00:34:57.060 Look, I think that there's – Secretary Noem has been clear with the American people but also with the Department of Justice that we're doing this together.
00:35:06.440 We're coordinating.
00:35:06.920 And so I'm not – I'm not following in the weeds about who actually has possession of the firearms that were discharged.
00:35:16.280 Wouldn't that be something the FBI would need in order to conduct a thorough investigation into a color of – this is obviously a color of law.
00:35:22.040 When I said I didn't know, I wasn't being critical of the question.
00:35:26.000 I was just simply saying I don't know.
00:35:28.080 On the Fulton County seizure of ballots, local officials there, election officials say those materials were set to become public.
00:35:36.920 By February 9th and that the Justice Department could have simply asked for them.
00:35:41.820 Why was it necessary to conduct a search warrant?
00:35:45.920 And do you expect the affidavit in that search warrant matter to become public anytime soon?
00:35:50.360 Or do you have any comment or explanation as to why that was necessary?
00:35:53.680 Listen, I'm not going to comment on – it's a criminal investigation.
00:35:56.480 I'm not – I will not comment on it.
00:35:58.600 I will say that it should be no surprise to anybody in this room that – or anybody watching – that election integrity is extraordinary.
00:36:06.920 It's extraordinarily important to this administration, always has been and always will be.
00:36:10.780 And so the fact that President Trump and this administration are investigating to make sure that – well, are investigating issues around elections to make sure that we do have completely fair and appropriate elections should not be surprising.
00:36:27.420 But I can't comment on any criminal investigations.
00:36:30.200 To follow up on that, regarding Fulton County, can you explain Tulsi Gabbard's role in DOJ activities?
00:36:37.040 Could you please explain Tulsi Gabbard's role in DOJ activity regarding the Fulton County search?
00:36:42.920 What do you mean her role?
00:36:45.400 It was reported that –
00:36:47.700 She happened to be present in Atlanta.
00:36:50.440 I mean, yes, I saw the same photo as you did.
00:36:53.660 I mean, she's not – she doesn't work for the Department of Justice or the FBI.
00:36:56.360 She's an extraordinarily important part of this administration. 0.99
00:36:59.300 This administration coordinates everything we do as a group.
00:37:04.560 And so I think her presence shouldn't be – there shouldn't be questioned, of course.
00:37:09.740 I mean, that's a big part of her – of her job.
00:37:12.080 And so the fact that she was present in Atlanta that day, you know, is – is something that shouldn't surprise anybody.
00:37:20.900 Sean Maximo?
00:37:22.080 All right, just two more.
00:37:24.080 Go ahead.
00:37:24.500 Just following up on that.
00:37:25.820 So are you saying that Gabbard's appearance in that area had nothing to do with the Justice Department action?
00:37:31.940 I most certainly did not say that.
00:37:35.260 No, I did not say that.
00:37:36.540 I said that – exactly the opposite.
00:37:37.900 I said this administration works closely together in all kinds of different areas.
00:37:43.220 And so the – I'm not sure if they're surprised at the – that the administration is working together on things like election integrity.
00:37:52.780 But if there is surprise, let me unequivocally state we are working together as an administration on election integrity-type issues.
00:38:00.820 And so that's – that's all I can say about that.
00:38:03.620 All right, one more.
00:38:04.160 Can you clarify who at the Justice Department is involved in the pretty investigation?
00:38:09.940 Is it the Civil Rights Division?
00:38:11.060 Is it the U.S. Attorney's Office in Minnesota?
00:38:12.540 So the – I want to be careful about – I want to choose words carefully about involved.
00:38:21.660 Investigations like this are led by law enforcement.
00:38:24.220 So that's the FBI.
00:38:25.840 There's coordination with the Civil Rights, with Harmeet Dillon's group.
00:38:30.420 And there's trial attorneys there that have – this is their lives.
00:38:34.940 They've done this for decades.
00:38:36.140 And so to the extent there's questions during an investigation that require a trial attorney to weigh in,
00:38:41.940 or if you need a civil rights attorney to draft a search warrant or help with an investigative process,
00:38:49.580 I expect the Civil Rights Division here at Maine Justice will be part of that effort.
00:38:55.160 But I don't want to overstate what's happening.
00:38:58.360 I don't want the takeaway to be that there's some massive civil rights investigation that's happening.
00:39:03.780 This is what I would describe as a standard investigation by the FBI when there's circumstances like what we saw last Saturday.
00:39:13.460 And that investigation, to the extent it needs to involve lawyers at the Civil Rights Division, it will involve those.
00:39:21.800 All right.
00:39:22.100 Thanks a lot, everybody.
00:39:22.980 I appreciate it.
00:39:23.340 One more next.
00:39:24.000 I appreciate the same kind of investigation.
00:39:26.940 Do you have a comment on the career prosecutors that are resigning in Minneapolis?
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00:44:06.860 Todd Blanch right there walking off the stage.
00:44:09.000 The Deputy Attorney General, we interviewed him a week ago.
00:44:11.120 It's noticeable that Pam Bondi and Kash Patel were not there.
00:44:14.840 So they're going to release everything that he said that meets the standard of the law that was passed by Congress.
00:44:22.060 They sent a letter.
00:44:22.700 They're going to send it, I guess, millions of pages of documents.
00:44:24.840 I'm sure people are going to be asking millions of questions because they said they've redacted it for any of the victims.
00:44:31.000 And they're not putting a list of victims.
00:44:32.920 So it doesn't exist anyway.
00:44:34.400 I'm sure that's going to be highly controversial.
00:44:36.160 And you'll see how that plays out.
00:44:37.780 After it's delivered, it sounds like sometime today.
00:44:39.940 Also, breaking news, we follow this pretty closely.
00:44:43.280 I didn't realize DOJ and FBI were doing an investigation of the ICE officers around the pretty shooting.
00:44:51.400 Jan, hang on for one second.
00:44:52.840 Jan, let me ask you.
00:44:53.860 You keep up with the news.
00:44:54.840 Did you know that?
00:44:55.760 I got Jack Bosobich going to join us, an old Chinahan. 1.00
00:44:58.640 Had you heard that there was an investigation of the shooting by FBI and DOJ?
00:45:03.880 I hadn't heard that, actually.
00:45:05.600 No, that was new information, I think.
00:45:07.080 He acted, Jack Bosobich's with us also.
00:45:11.640 Jack, he handled that like, and I kind of like Todd's style.
00:45:16.160 I know you don't, but I don't think he's snippy.
00:45:18.880 I just think he handles the press pretty well.
00:45:21.140 Did you know that there was a DOJ and FBI investigation in the shooting of Preddy and focused on the ICE officers as a civil rights matter?
00:45:31.100 Well, Steve, that's something that I think is coming as news to a lot of people.
00:45:37.440 And look, we know that the agents were put on leave.
00:45:40.320 I believe it was Border Patrol, actually, not ICE.
00:45:42.780 And so people, that's one of the big things there because there was sort of this jurisdictional turf, you know, kind of almost like a turf scuffle between the two agencies there on the ground, the Border Patrol and ICE.
00:45:56.720 But the idea that there's a civil rights investigation, that's new, I think, to a lot of people.
00:46:02.480 Looking at the situation, of course, obviously, anytime there's an officer involved shooting, we know that there's going to be an internal investigation.
00:46:09.980 And that, as he mentioned, would be under Secretary Noem and the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security.
00:46:16.740 But if there is an investigation into Alex Preddy, I certainly hope that that investigation would include his involvement in the signal groups, his involvement in these anti-ICE Antifa organizations such as Ice Watch, this reporting that Mike Howell has over from the Oversight Project, that he may have been one of these Antifa spotters.
00:46:37.600 So are you, you're implying that you think there's enough evidence out there, there ought to be invested, Preddy ought to be investigated for his role in Antifa, or Antifa-affiliated organizations, which Antifa has been designated in domestic case.
00:46:52.960 They keep showing up everywhere, everywhere Border Patrol is, everywhere the convoys are, everywhere that ICE is in Minneapolis.
00:46:59.180 This guy just magically happens to be walking down the street.
00:47:02.860 Does that really pass the smell test?
00:47:04.720 Or does it make more sense that he was involved in these organizations that were targeting and creating the chaos, creating the disruption?
00:47:12.040 Or, as President Trump said yesterday, an agitator and perhaps an insurrectionist, Alex Preddy?
00:47:19.100 Yeah, he said his stock went way down.
00:47:22.140 Also, before I go back to Jan about the book, I want you to hang on, if you hang on through the break.
00:47:26.240 The Wall Street Journal has reported that the overall investigation of the stealing of the 2020 election, not the criminal part, the criminal part's being handled by the FBI and DOJ, but that the overall investigation to the stealing of the 2020 election is being handled by Tulsi Gabbard.
00:47:45.900 He implied that, I thought he implied that she really wasn't having much to do with that.
00:47:53.100 There was some national security aspect to it.
00:47:55.060 What is your read from how Todd answered that question?
00:47:59.100 Well, so people have to understand that the way the Department of, the DNI works, the Director of National Intelligence, so the Office of the Department, or the Director of National Intelligence is an umbrella, compendium, overarching office.
00:48:14.100 And the way that it works, typically in the past, has been, you know, when Clapper was running the place and with his buddy Brennan over at CIA, the way they ran it was pretty much just a rubber stamp for whatever Barack Obama wanted.
00:48:26.700 But now with Tulsi Gabbard coming in, she's come in and said, wait a minute, we've got access here and authorities for access to information from every single one of the national security agencies.
00:48:40.300 That includes what? That includes FBI, that includes DHS, and that includes CISA, which would be under the auspices of DHS as well.
00:48:50.660 Homeland Security, because of the fact that election infrastructure was deemed a Homeland Security protected piece of infrastructure for our elections.
00:48:59.820 So any of the reporting that was done in 2020 that came up through those channels, any of the censorship, or perhaps anything else that was done electronically, shall we say, would fall under CISA.
00:49:13.260 Remember, we were told again and again by, you know, the guy with the long hair, with the mullet and the fun socks back in 2020 that it was the most secure election ever, the most secure election ever.
00:49:23.000 Well, guess what? All of that information is now under the authority of Tulsi Gabbard.
00:49:30.160 Jack, hang on one second. The White House just notifies. They put the slaves, so we may be going to the White House with either Caroline Levitt, maybe even the president.
00:49:38.240 So just everybody stick around. Jack, just one question.
00:49:42.060 The timing of Tulsi Gabbard's involvement and the degree that she went down there and spent more time than the really the FBI agents or the senior FBI guys.
00:49:49.700 Do you think any of that's related to Maduro, the Maduro being picked up and any information maybe coming out of Venezuela has been such a hot button issue for the MAGA, right?
00:50:00.960 Look, Steve, I've heard that, you know, chatter as well as anyone. I haven't heard that officially from anyone at the DNI.
00:50:08.180 I will say, though, that remember, Tulsi Gabbard set up the DIG team over there that the the director's initiative group and their job was to go into all of these things, the censorship, the election, the integrity issues, all of these pieces.
00:50:24.960 And she's talked about this at cabinet meetings in the past. So not any direct ties to Maduro necessarily that she said publicly, but she has publicly said.
00:50:34.320 And there was that bombshell a couple of months ago. I was actually at the White House during that cabinet meeting and had a brief moment to chat with her afterwards where she dropped the bombshell that said we have uncovered things about the 2020 election.
00:50:47.240 And, you know, didn't really follow up on that. I think we're now seeing the follow up.
00:50:53.700 Yeah, President Trump's applied to just hang on one second. We're going to go to the White House momentarily, and I'm sure it's going to get picked up during the Charlie Kirk show.
00:51:01.220 They've notified us that they're going to come out and make some statements.
00:51:04.780 Jan, let me go back. Peter Schweitzer's book is a number one bestseller and the Warren Posse audience had a lot to do with that.
00:51:12.720 This is about the Chinese Communist Party and the Mexican government's involvement.
00:51:16.800 The subtitle is How American Elites and Foreign Powers Use Immigration as a Weapon. 0.92
00:51:21.780 You have worked on your book for 20 years. Tell me about this, because now we're coming forward and we are going to drive as hard as possible to make sure this book is a New York Times number one bestseller.
00:51:32.180 Talk about your journey. You've worked on this for 20 years.
00:51:35.060 You've done amazing interviews, Epoch Times, you're American thought leaders, but to get down and take all the research, because this thing is as documented as Peter Schweitzer's, talk to us about the journey and why is this such a big component of your life?
00:51:49.900 Over at Epoch Times, you've got so much stuff going on.
00:51:52.800 You guys are the leading voice as a newspaper and content of the anti-CCP movement.
00:51:59.580 We would hope War Room will be equivalent to you as a streaming platform, but why have you turned your entire life over to doing this and exposing this?
00:52:09.940 Well, this is a crime yet to be seen on this planet.
00:52:14.760 To quote David Matus, who was one of the original researchers, to describe this,
00:52:18.740 this is not your garden variety black market organ industry situation.
00:52:23.580 This is a thing, and I started talking about this yesterday, and of course, the president cut us off.
00:52:30.560 It wasn't a bad way to go.
00:52:33.140 You need a state actor to do this.
00:52:35.060 You need to be able to push mass propaganda through a population and dehumanize a group of people.
00:52:40.080 And you need to be able to incarcerate a huge number of those people, maybe a million or something like that.
00:52:44.680 And this is what the CCP did to Falun Gong practitioners back in 1999 and 2000, when Jiang Zemin, the dictator,
00:52:52.260 basically decided this peaceful movement based on truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, was going to get wiped out, to use his words, eradicated.
00:53:00.820 And they made these people less than human through the propaganda.
00:53:04.920 They put millions of them in prisons, in the laborers' camps, and everything else.
00:53:09.300 And then they started blood typing, tissue typing, organ scanning them, okay?
00:53:13.660 They created a database of their vitals.
00:53:16.340 And now someone here in America or some other country basically could see an ad, and this happened many times, and say,
00:53:22.560 well, I need a new heart.
00:53:23.760 I'm desperate.
00:53:24.460 For 200 grand, I can get it done in two weeks or less in communist China, meaning that they knew when someone was going to die. 0.87
00:53:31.100 And the reason they knew that was that they already had that person pre-typed, in prison, ready to go, ready to be killed to order.
00:53:38.740 And that's why that's the name of the book, the title of the book, Killed to Order.
00:53:44.860 You're saying that they actually, once they knew what the demand side was, they could go back and create their own supply side?
00:53:51.100 They would actually kill these people?
00:53:52.640 The book is going to show us systematically, so there's no doubt that they could actually murder people?
00:53:58.900 The state, the Chinese Communist Party, the state of China, not the Chinese people, but the state of China,
00:54:04.220 could actually kill people to order for their organs and to monetize that?
00:54:08.740 Well, to our best knowledge, and there's a number of really incredible, I basically bring together all of the research that's been done over the last 20 years, and some of it is unbelievable.
00:54:20.020 I mean, I'll give you an example, Steve, 2022, American Journal of Transplantation.
00:54:24.920 There's a paper title that I kid you not, okay, Execution by Organ Procurement.
00:54:29.880 They actually published that title in the American Journal of Transplantation.
00:54:32.900 The researchers looked at the Chinese transplant literature.
00:54:36.280 This is the public Chinese transplant literature that's available, okay, for anyone to look at.
00:54:40.960 They found 71 instances of dead donor rule violations, very clear violations of the dead donor rule in the published public Chinese transplant literature.
00:54:49.860 Basically, it's such a norm.
00:54:51.440 We're talking 60,000 to 90,000 transplants a year.
00:54:54.520 This is industrial scale.
00:54:56.080 Okay, it's such a norm over there.
00:54:57.460 This is how the transplantation is done.
00:54:59.280 There may be exceptions.
00:55:00.180 I'm not saying the other, the ethical way, it never happens, but it's happening at such a scale that they've kind of forgotten that you can't do dead donor.
00:55:09.020 You can't, do you know what the dead donor rule violation means?
00:55:12.440 It means that the person is being killed by their organs being extracted, and in the published literature, there's at least 70 instances of that,
00:55:19.760 and that is not by no means a comprehensive look at the literature.
00:55:23.440 It's crazy.
00:55:24.980 Okay, the book's Ordered Killed.
00:55:26.940 Where do they go for your website to push this book?
00:55:29.680 Where do they go to order today?
00:55:30.880 It's on pre-order.
00:55:32.280 When's the release date?
00:55:34.260 So release date is March 17th.
00:55:37.140 We're hoping to do a big thing here in Washington, D.C. around that.
00:55:40.820 The URL to go to is killedtoorder.com.
00:55:46.140 Killedtoorder.com.
00:55:47.220 And that'll take you right to the Amazon link, and I want to encourage you to pre-order.
00:55:51.680 Steve, I really appreciate your endorsement for this.
00:55:54.300 I mean, you even said in that endorsement, you said, you know, this is going to shock you, and you're going to want to go pray after this.
00:56:00.820 Whenever I think about it, I feel the same.
00:56:03.940 So, anyway, thank you for giving this an audience, because for decades, okay, I've worked on this for 20 years.
00:56:10.260 For the longest time, it was just very hard to even talk about it, because the human mind does not want to believe that such things are possible.
00:56:17.500 Such extreme violations of human dignity are even possible.
00:56:21.100 Today, somehow, there was a survivor.
00:56:23.460 I talk about all that in the book.
00:56:24.620 There's amazingly a survivor.
00:56:25.880 And also, I think the COVID years also showed us some of the depravities that are possible.
00:56:31.260 I think we're finally, as a collective conscious of society, ready to face this issue and understand, and this is the bigger part of the book, in a sense, that this is how communist China works.
00:56:41.700 And we have to understand this, and then we'll know how to deal with them in a more reasonable way.
00:56:46.280 The communists I'm talking about, not the Chinese people. 0.99
00:56:49.440 I want to go to Jack about the CCP, but give me one minute on your summary you gave about the power movement of Xi in the military staff, because we're a unique opportunity to get Jack Posobiec, a naval intelligence officer, to comment.
00:57:05.200 What is your thought on this?
00:57:07.600 Well, look, the bottom line is, you know, there was a kind of a, not a coup, but basically the military took a lot of control back from Xi last year.
00:57:16.280 Right now, what's happened with this top military general being deposed, okay, being investigated, is basically Xi having taken back his power, okay?
00:57:26.360 The problem is that to do that, he basically destroyed all semblance of rule structure in the system, and he's actually basically, in a way, crippled the CCP's, especially the military's, ability to respond right now.
00:57:39.500 So it's like, it also creates a bit of instability, so we don't know exactly how this is going to play out.
00:57:43.860 But this is a once-in-a-decade, perhaps once-in-a-generation shift, and, you know, a lot of chaos going on there right now.
00:57:52.960 Jack, your thoughts on this?
00:57:54.320 We haven't had a chance to cover this.
00:57:55.600 Your thoughts on that topic?
00:57:57.900 Yeah, look, Steve, you know, I'm one of these guys who, as a China hand, I take a bit of a contrarian position to sort of the Gordon Changs and some of the other analysts out there.
00:58:08.180 I'm long Xi Jinping, you know, this guy has had a remarkable ability over the last 15 years or so to be able to take out his rivals.
00:58:18.740 He's been doing so since he got rid of Bo Xilai and the mayor of Chongqing, and his wife, by the way, who was his main rival for the presidency early on, and the chairmanship of the CCP.
00:58:30.360 He's been able to do this left and right to all of his rivals.
00:58:34.840 And so, you know, look, the communists are conducting another purge.
00:58:37.600 This is exactly what we see in communist systems and communist regimes.
00:58:41.140 Does it mean there's instability?
00:58:42.620 Sure, for a period.
00:58:44.080 But Xi has been able and shown this remarkable resiliency to be able to weather these storms and bend the party to his will like no chairman that we've seen since the days of Mao Zedong himself.
00:58:55.540 I agree. Is this foreshadow that he's getting his team in place and getting rid of the guys that he doesn't think to do it for the invasion of Taiwan?
00:59:04.720 Give me a minute on that.
00:59:06.220 Perhaps. You know, I think that I still think that, of course, that Xi Jinping's policy is, of course, to absorb Taiwan through osmosis, cut them off from the rest of the world culturally, militarily, economically,
00:59:19.280 and then absorb them long, long frame over time rather than a direct invasion like we saw with Russia and Ukraine or, you know, any of these other, you know, the U.S. and Venezuela, this type of thing.
00:59:30.960 That being said, if he actually felt like he was threatened, then you would see that.
00:59:37.220 Jack, you're back up at two.
00:59:38.720 We've got the Charlie Kirk show next.
00:59:40.340 You're back up at two.
00:59:41.140 We're going to go to the White House here on Real America's Voice momentarily.
00:59:44.220 What's your social media?
00:59:45.200 People can follow you.
00:59:45.960 I do want to do that.
00:59:47.160 We're at Jack Posobiec Human Events Daily.
00:59:48.780 Breaking news, though.
00:59:49.860 You mentioned about Tulsi.
00:59:51.300 She just announced she's making a surprise appearance at, wait for it, Washington, D.C., the winter meeting of the National Association of the Secretaries of State.
01:00:03.680 So all the state election officials are meeting in Washington, D.C. today.
01:00:08.220 Tulsi Gabbard just announced that she's showing up as well.
01:00:13.280 Oh, my Lord.
01:00:14.220 Okay, this thing's really getting serious now.
01:00:16.520 Jack, thank you so much.
01:00:17.760 Jan, social media, where do people go on Twitter?
01:00:21.400 At Jan Jekielek, at J-A-N-J-E-K-I-E-L-E-K.
01:00:26.700 That's my Polish ancestry.
01:00:28.720 That's my Polish anti-communist ancestry.
01:00:31.160 And go to killedtoorder.com.
01:00:33.980 That'll give you the link to the book.
01:00:35.700 And, yeah, let's blow this out of the water.
01:00:37.960 This is an amazing opportunity.
01:00:39.420 Let's do it.
01:00:42.040 I had two Polish, I had the two top Polish anti-CCP guys.
01:00:45.620 It's all going to be good.
01:00:46.640 Thank you, sir.
01:00:47.220 Appreciate you.
01:00:48.020 Mike Lindell, Tulsi Gabbard is, we've been told now, is overseeing the investigation to the stolen election.
01:00:55.860 Cash is doing the criminal.
01:00:57.820 Jack Bassoba just broke news.
01:00:59.360 She's going to, there's secretaries of state are meeting today. 0.93
01:01:03.240 You're running for governor.
01:01:05.060 You're the leading voice in stolen elections.
01:01:07.620 What does that mean to you, sir?
01:01:09.420 This is awesome.
01:01:10.520 It's a day I've waited for for a long time, Steve.
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