Episode 5125： Islam Grows In NYC And Will Spread Across The Country; MAGA Versus The Donors In Texas
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Learn English with Stephen K. B. Bannon, a conservative Muslim-American politician from North Carolina, joins CNN's Jake Tapper to discuss the dangers of radical Islam and its influence in the United States and around the world.
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Why in the hell do you think they're in Houston and in north of Dallas?
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They are working together to overthrow Western civilization.
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Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules.
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We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish,
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and it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic.
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We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.
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You are not here properly, and you're going to leave.
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On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas.
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The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another.
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We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.
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Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.
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As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world.
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Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?
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War Room, Texas. Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Starts right now.
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Hello. Tell me the story of what happened today at school.
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Okay, so I'm Marco. I'm the president of the high school Republicans at Wiley East High School.
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And today there was an organization called Why Islam that had a huge table booth in front of our school today.
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And they were giving hijabs to girls throughout the high school, and they were giving out Korans.
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And they also had pamphlets about Sharia law and other Islamic things, and they were giving out these bags.
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And I had a discussion with the women that were there, and we're trying to understand what's going on.
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So they were passing out to as much, I mean, girls as they could, so that was their goal.
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How many people, how many students took those bags?
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I don't have an exact number of how many people took them, but I can say that they were trying to get as much out as they could.
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And we typically have colleges come out, but we have our clubs have tables.
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We've never had a faith group, to my understanding.
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So Christians have never been allowed to come out?
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From what I've seen, I've never seen churches or Bibles passed out.
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I can't affirm that that's 100%, but what I can say is that this was a big thing that they wanted to push out today.
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Radical Islam poses a threat, not only in places like Mondami's, New York, but right in my home state of North Carolina,
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Just this past New Year's Eve in my 8th district of North Carolina, the FBI foiled a planned terrorist attack.
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Christian Sturdivant, an 18-year-old from Mint Hill, North Carolina, a suburban town in my district,
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intended to use knives and hammers to massacre people at a local grocery store and a fast food restaurant.
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He had pledged his allegiance to ISIS at the young age of 14, aspired to martyrdom,
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and hoped to kill as many people as possible before dying at the hands of police.
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Thank God the Charlotte FBI intercepted this plot in time.
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An impressionable young man in our own North Carolina community was radicalized by violent Islamic ideology.
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Picture families losing loved ones while simply celebrating an American holiday or running errands.
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We also see troubling signs of broader influence, including sympathy for Sharia law over the United States Constitution.
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A poll by the Center for Security Policy found that over half of U.S. Muslims surveyed believe Muslims should have the option
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of Sharia courts or tribunals instead of or alongside.
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While views vary and many American Muslims fully embrace our constitutional system,
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substantial support for Sharia among Muslims indicate alignment with Islamist political goal.
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I think of the freedom from suffering that Buddhism teaches us is only possible if we remove the three poisons of desire,
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And I consider my own faith, Islam, a religion built upon a narrative of migration.
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The story of the hijrah reminds us that Prophet Muhammad ï·º was a stranger too,
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As for those who immigrated in the cause of Allah after being persecuted,
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we will surely bless them with a good home in this world.
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Islam began as something strange and will go back to being strange.
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If faith offers us the moral compass to stand alongside the stranger,
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where power is wielded to love, to embrace, and to protect.
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It is Friday, 6 February, in the year of our Lord, 2026.
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We are shifting now every Friday and Wednesday to the 5 o'clock show, War Room, Texas.
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We're going to be here through the primary because of one reason,
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because we need to be here to make sure we report every day
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this issue about Sharia law being on the ballot.
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Proposition 10, the prohibiting of Sharia law in the great state of Texas.
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Matt Boyle, the editor of Breitbart, is going to be with us.
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Probably the most expensive primary in the history of this country taking place right now,
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the senatorial primary between Hunt, Paxton, and Cornyn.
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I want to start with Congressman Mark Harris of the great state of North Carolina.
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Congressman Harris, I think people would consider you in the House of Representatives
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You were at the caucus, I think, on Tuesday, and you talked about Mondami.
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That was the mayor of the city of New York lecturing American citizens on the Koran and the Hadith.
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Well, Steve, first of all, thank you for having me today.
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And for him to lecture us as Americans on this critical issue is missing so many of the points.
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I mean, obviously, he's building his case for how he is trying to transform New York
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and how he would like to transform the rest of America.
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But the things that we're talking about and what the caucus was talking about the other day
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is recognizing the reality that when you talk about Sharia law,
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you're talking about folks that are really trying to create an alternate political and legal system
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that runs completely counter to who we are as Americans
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and counter to what we believe in as the United States Constitution.
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And I think that as we laid out the other day there at the caucus,
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the things that they are involved in and supporting,
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whether it be stoning to death for those that have somehow been unfaithful to their cause,
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for those that have committed apostasy by leaving Islam.
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Listen, radical Islam is a serious, serious problem.
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This is a problem, as I pointed out, in my own district, a very quiet suburban area just outside of Charlotte,
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Mint Hill, North Carolina, where a young man was radicalized at the age of 14,
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He was prepared to carry out the week of New Year's, a mass killing where he was going into a local grocery store and a fast food restaurant.
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And there he was going to kill people and was prepared to die at the hands of police.
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I'm so grateful for you calling attention to it.
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I'm grateful for you standing with the people in Texas to understand what's at stake.
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Congressman, you've been on this before you even got into politics and into Congress.
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We've had people since we started the show two weeks ago.
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And I tell folks we've launched a lot of war and impeachment, war and pandemic.
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We've had people from Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Florida, North Carolina all say,
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hey, look, if you can't do a war, we need to come on the show and talk to people.
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And those states I named are principally in the American South.
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What do you believe it's going to take to have our fellow countrymen wake up to what this situation is
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and how this is a very well thought through invasion of our country?
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Well, I think it's got to be an education process, Steve.
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We've got to educate people about what's at risk here.
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Because this is not just something that is just going to come along and that we just tolerate.
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Again, the goal ultimately is to provide an alternative political and legal system
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that they want to put in place that runs counter to who we are.
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I mean, Islam means to submit when you really get down to it ultimately.
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And when you consider that they want us to submit to Sharia law, that law, that's extremely dangerous.
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And listen, I remember several years ago to going to the state legislature and standing with other folks,
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conservatives there in the North Carolina General Assembly to pass a statute there
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that would certainly recognize our courts and our law in North Carolina above Sharia law.
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And we've got to make sure that while this movement has only grown and continued to be underground with the Sharia,
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they've come out from underground and they're seeking to make it something stronger.
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And we have got to step up and speak up and make clear that folks are going to take their stand.
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And they have the opportunity there in Texas with this vote that's going to be coming up on March 3rd to do just that.
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Congressman Harris, we're fighting obviously a political fight down here, but this is a spiritual war.
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The Catholic Church, the mainstream Protestant churches, the evangelical community,
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do you believe that the churches are stepping up here to the degree they have to to identify and combat this?
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And I haven't been in Texas recently, so I don't know how strong they're standing.
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I know in North Carolina we have stood when we really had to stand up and speak up.
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And I think that's going to be critically important.
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Listen, believers do need to recognize this is spiritual warfare.
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We need to go back to the book of Nehemiah chapter 2, verse 17 and 18,
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where Nehemiah saw the walls torn down, thieves and foreign invaders came in and raped and pillaged the land.
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God gave him a vision in Nehemiah 2, 17 and 18 of what needed to happen.
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Recognize the emergency, rely upon God's power, and thirdly, be relentless in your efforts.
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In fact, I shared it with a group just earlier today because I do believe that ultimately we've got to step one,
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open our eyes and awaken to the emergency that is happening right here before us.
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Then we've got to rely upon God's power, His word, which is truth.
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And when we understand His word is truth, then we thirdly become relentless in our efforts to standing on that truth,
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spreading that word, and helping folks stand in the midst of this challenge in front of us.
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Eight is one of the founding members of the Sharia Free America Caucus on Capitol Hill.
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Congressman, thank you for joining us on a Friday.
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Where can people go to find out more about you, your website, and also your social media, sir?
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You can go to Rep. Mark Harris, NCO8, and find out more about us there.
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I am so thankful for Congressman Keith Self, Congressman Chip Roy, who founded this caucus.
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And I'm honored to stand with them and grateful for their strong leadership there in Texas
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and for what they're bringing across the country.
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Congressman Harris, Congressman Harris, been on this from the beginning, warning people.
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We've got a real fight on our hands down here in Texas.
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Okay, a historic primary going on in the Senate.
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Wesley Hunt, a former Army attack helicopter pilot from West Point.
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And John Cornyn, a former, I think, Supreme Court judge who has been in the Senate for term after term after term,
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are in a dogfight polling the other day from JPL had Paxson at 27, Hunt at 26, Cornyn at 26 with about 20% undecided.
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There's been accusations by the Cornyn campaign that they're a British firm and trying to, these are the British trying to intrude.
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But as Matt Boyle just informed me, another poll just came out with Paxson 26, Hunt 25, Cornyn in third at 22.
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Matt Boyle, there's an earthquake going on down in the great state of Texas, sir.
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This will end up being the most expensive primary, Republican primary, I believe, in the history of the country.
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What's your perspective as national political editor of Breitbart?
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Yeah, well, the fact that we're just a few weeks out from this primary, and I think your assessment of this is right.
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I can't think of another race that is more expensive.
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I've been doing this for 15 years, and I can't think of one.
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And by the way, it's all one candidate and his allies that are spending all the money, right?
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So that's Cornyn and the donor class that are all in for him.
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They've spent, it will be a north of $50 million primary effort by John Cornyn.
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And the fact that we are a few weeks out from that, and Cornyn appears to be, at least in some surveys, right, like looking like he might not even make the runoff.
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The way Texas works in their primaries on March 3rd is that if nobody gets 50% plus one vote, then the top two vote getters advance to a runoff later in the spring.
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And it looks like right now, at least based off these latest two surveys, one from JL Partners that has Paxton at 27 and both Cornyn and Hunt at 26,
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and then this latest Signal survey that, again, has, you know, Cornyn even further down, that it's a very real possibility that we could see a runoff between Ken Paxton and Wesley Hunt.
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That doesn't even include the longtime senator, despite the fact that he's blown tens of millions of dollars in this race and his allies have.
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I mean, this would be, by the way, to put this in perspective, yeah, oh, go ahead.
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No, no, but I just wanted the audience to understand, particularly those people outside Texas that watch us, is just insert Mitch McConnell for John Cornyn.
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He's been, he's one of Cornyn's leadership teams for decades, right?
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So this is, this is about, this is, it's hardcore Republican establishment.
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But, and by the way, he was a handful of votes.
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I don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, but he was a handful of votes just over a year ago,
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away from being the Senate Republican leader and successor to Mitch McConnell and ended up falling to the thune in a three-way race that happened.
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Remember, Rick Scott got in and tried to challenge it and shook the whole thing up.
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But Cornyn was only just a handful of votes away from being Mitch McConnell's successor.
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So for us to be a little over a year later now, and he's on the cusp of possibly not even making the runoff in his own primary after spending tens of millions of dollars,
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this is a total defenestration of the donor class.
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And, I mean, it's the biggest embarrassment I've ever seen.
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If the Senate goes Democrat in November, we will look back at this moment and say this is why.
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Because they blew tens of millions of dollars on a guy that is struggling very badly right now.
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And now that being said, again, nothing's over until it's over, until all the votes are counted, and so on and so forth.
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And no votes have been cast yet, so it's not over yet.
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But what we're seeing here are early signs that the Republican establishment is in total collapse in the state of Texas.
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And, frankly, there's a lot of things to like about both Ken Paxton and Wesley Hunt.
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By the way, I know John Cornyn personally, too.
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I've interviewed him many times over the years.
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I have nothing personal against Senator Cornyn.
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But what I'm telling you is that what the numbers seem to suggest, what we're seeing right now,
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is that Cornyn appears to be in collapse a few weeks before this primary date and may not even make the runoff election.
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If that happens, that is an earth-shattering development.
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I would also add, too, that Cornyn's campaign and Super PAC and allies are out there attacking the JL Partners pollster,
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Jason Johnson and his polling firm, falsely accusing them of being a British company.
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I spoke to the pollster in the lead-up to this appearance here today,
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because, Steve, we talked about this earlier today that we were going to talk about it.
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So I called the pollster just to be sure that the attacks that Cornyn himself,
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like if you go to John Cornyn's Twitter account, X account, he has attacks that are false.
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By the way, the original person who posted them with the false information in them has deleted that.
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But Cornyn's tweet was still up as of 10 minutes ago, last time I checked,
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falsely attacking this American company, calling it a foreign company,
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and also falsely claiming that they're working for Wesley Hunter-affiliated entities.
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This pollster is not working for Wesley Hunter or its affiliated or, you know,
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any, like, Super PAC-supporting Hunter or anything like that.
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So now we have a second poll, this one from Signal,
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which, again, is another legitimate pollster that is suggesting that this is not a fluke
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Okay. This race has been a year in the buildup.
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He's the darling of the grassroots movement here.
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He was the first guy we had on the show on the afternoon after Joe Biden had the phony
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And, you know, Paxson said, hey, we're Biden administration is going to be inside the Constitution.
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I'll work with them where they're going to be outside.
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I think the next day he filed his first lawsuit.
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He's been the—this was supposed to be grassroots versus McConnell.
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This was supposed to be MAGA versus the donors.
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He's a guy that's revered combat record and West Point grad.
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Walk me through the five-dimension chess here because we were supposed to be talking about a dead heat
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And now we have a third element involved in which you are, right, shocking that Cornyn's in third place.
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Tell me how you think this is going to play out.
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Yeah. And like I said, I'm not taking sides in this.
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Like, so I like all three people personally, right, like all three candidates.
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And I will say, you know, obviously I think Cornyn is the establishment guy.
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But, you know, I've always got along with him well personally.
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But I will say this. I think that, you know, Ken Paxton is the—he's revered by the base, right?
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Obviously he was a vehemently, viciously weaponized government attack against him.
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They went through the same impeachment rigmarole that they did to Donald Trump, to Ken Paxton in the Texas legislature.
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He fought it. He won. He beat them just like Trump did.
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And so it's—there's a lot of similarities there.
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Wesley Hunt is a really also interesting character.
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And I think, you know, also to—you know, I've seen some people out there trying to suggest that, like, he's a plant by Cornyn or something like that.
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I think Wesley Hunt is, you know, a genuinely honest person.
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I've met with him a bunch of times on Capitol Hill.
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I think he's a great leader inside the House Republican Conference.
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And he's been a member of the House for several years now.
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And in his service, you know, dating back to West Point and beyond.
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And so I think that both of those two candidates are drawing—so the dynamic here is that the Hunt campaign is kind of the surprise up the middle that could finish off Cornyn before we even get to the runoff, right?
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Because the conventional wisdom was, oh, because you've got all these also-ran candidates out there, too, right?
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Like, and so nobody was going to get to 50 percent on March 3rd anyway.
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And the conventional wisdom was always that it was going to be Paxton versus Cornyn, and it would be another $150 million between the primary and the runoff.
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We could see a scenario here where there's a runoff between any combination of the three, right?
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So we could see Paxton-Hunt, we could see Hunt-Cornyn, we could see Paxton-Cornyn, right?
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The president just won the state by 14 points on the greatest comeback in history.
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Isn't the pressure of the Senate Leadership Fund and all the donors, they're banging on President Trump every second of every day, say, look, we can't afford a huge runoff here.
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And then the general hunt and Paxton are going to get smoked by a rising, more energized Democratic Party that you've got to back Cornyn.
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And this gives us money to spread into other races like in North Carolina, in New Hampshire, in Michigan that desperately need it.
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And I'd love to, I know you can't, we can't hold you through, but is President Trump going to get involved here?
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Is the Senate Leadership Fund going to talk him into coming in and backing Cornyn?
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But I don't think, I think Trump's been very apprehensive to do that.
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But that being said, I also challenge that conventional wisdom that Cornyn's the better candidate in the general election.
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Look, the Democrats are very likely going to dominate Jasmine Crockett, who's a radical, crazy crackpot as their candidate.
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And so, again, what you're going to see here is that I think Paxton or Hunt actually does better in a general election against them.
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And so those very same donor class Republicans are blowing money that could be used to help Mike Rogers up in Michigan or, you know, the FOIA in Minnesota or Sununu up in New Hampshire, you know, Watley in North Carolina, et cetera.
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They're blowing this money in Texas on a primary for a candidate who's weaker in a general election.
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So I think it's going to be a total defenestration of the donor class on March the 3rd.
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Where do people go to get all your great writing and your show?
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I host Breitbart News Saturday on Sirius XM, 10 a.m. to 1 p.m.
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And then also at mboyle1 on X and at Real Matt Boyle on True Social.
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So Matt Boyle, thank you for taking time away today.
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We're going to return with War Room Texas in just a moment.
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This Senate primary has not just national implications, but global implications.
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This is what people are talking about, what a post-Trump MAGA looks like.
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I mean, Senator Cornyn, the problem is he's just been part of the establishment for decade after decade after decade.
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It really hasn't done anything on Capitol Hill.
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So we're going to cover this with daily updates.
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Plus, it is sucking up an unbelievable amount of resources.
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Natalie G. Winters is going to join us, but I have a special for Natalie.
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Let's go ahead and play this clip, and I want Natalie G. Winters.
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I think of the freedom from suffering that Buddhism teaches us is only possible.
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If we remove the three poisons of desire, hatred, and ignorance from our daily lives,
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And I consider my own faith, Islam, a religion built upon a narrative of migration.
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The story of the hijrah reminds us that Prophet Muhammad ï·º was a stranger too,
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As for those who immigrated in the cause of Allah after being persecuted,
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we will surely bless them with a good home in this world.
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Islam began as something strange and will go back to being strange.
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If faith offers us the moral compass to stand alongside the stranger,
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where power is wielded to love, to embrace, and to protect.
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Natalie Winters, I think this explains better than anything
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why we're in Texas in the run-up to this vote on Proposition 10,
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the prohibiting of Sharia law in the state of Texas.
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Your thoughts about what you just heard and saw, ma'am?
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I almost wish we were operating like the Washington Post here.
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You could have fired me so I didn't have to watch that.
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I don't know what sentence in that is the most ridiculous one.
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I think I would probably go with my personal favorite quote.
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I consider my own faith, Islam, a religion built upon narrative of migration.
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That's the most ridiculous euphemism I've ever heard for, what,
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1,400 years of destruction, conquest, rape, and pillaging at the gates of Europe
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from a religion that has so many problems we don't have enough time to list on this program.
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I'd point him to his own book, the Hadith, quote,
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I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.
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The fact that you're even seeing that be said with a official seal of the United States,
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New York City behind him, truly makes me sick to my stomach.
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But honestly, Steve, my anger, though it is partly directed at this whatever Islamic fascist uprising we're seeing right now,
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it's at weak Republicans who have allowed this.
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I'm not that old, but I remember, what was it, back in 2016 at the peak of culture wartime,
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I don't know why we need to have redundant tautological caucuses in Congress, which are Sharia-free America.
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Because even though we, the grassroots, the war room posse, we won the idea war,
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where have congressional Republicans, where have Senate Republicans,
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where have any actual Republicans in leadership been to actually prevent the Islamicization of America,
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whether it's homegrown radicalism, the importing of foreign migrants, it's absolutely reprehensible.
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This was a debate that was settled a decade ago.
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And Steve, like you've always said, the future of American politics is right-wing populism and left-wing populism.
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And now, because our Republican betters didn't stand in the breach and actually do anything to combat this,
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you're seeing this weird amalgamation where left-wing populism is looking more like, you know,
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the Hamas protester crowd where you're getting this fusion with radical Islam.
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You see it rearing its ugly head right now with the way that they're reframing mass deportations
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of these Republicans who don't think that America is a civilization or a country that's worth defending.
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And I'm so glad we have a Sharia-free caucus in America,
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but I'm more upset that we have to have that in the first place
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and that we have to even watch clips like that.
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That should be an AI deepfake that's getting censored as misinformation,
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not actual government policy that a few weeks from now is probably going to look like
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more of the immigration policy of this administration is pushing
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than something that's just straight plucked out of the Quran or the Hadith.
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With your brilliant research into the Chinese Communist Party,
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you became one of the, with Mike Benz and Rahim, some other people,
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one of the foremost theoreticians in understanding the color revolution
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and how it's playing out throughout the country.
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While we're having to set up a Sharia-free caucus with only 33 people in it, I might add,
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and have it on the ballot down here to prohibit in the state of Texas,
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you're reporting, walk me through the exclusives.
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The people on the other side of the football are playing for keeps
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And I don't think the Warren Posse gets it, but we have to make sure that elected officials
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and even people in the administration want me through this exclusive
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because I'm not sure people understand the lethality and the seriousness of what we're up against, ma'am.
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I mean, they say it's defending democracy, but it reads like a war plan.
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They're talking about basically how to integrate AI, particularly AI with military use cases.
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I'm even talking VR and drones, that's virtual reality, into the landscape of Democrat protests.
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There was sort of a quiet meeting that was held at Harvard in late 2024 that kicked this whole initiative off.
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They distilled it into a report called How AI Can Support Democracy Movements.
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It was led by Erica Chenoweth that we've reported on extensively here,
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not just because her resume is full of USAID grants and lectures,
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but because she's hardwired into the Democratic Party apparatus.
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She's co-hosted protest planning events alongside Democrat members of Congress,
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most recently Pramila Jayapal with their whole resistance labs, if people remember that,
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the phone calls, they were holding these mass training demonstrations.
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But I want to just read the quotes from what they're planning, the integration of AI into these protests.
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But I want the audience to really pay attention.
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This is not run-of-the-mill, you know, practicing slogans and chanting.
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Quote, while these are all worthy areas of focus,
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a large gap exists in social movement's ability to use AI tools for their own tactical, strategic,
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and organizational needs, such as background research, systematic power mapping, intelligence gathering,
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sentiment analysis, predictive modeling, and strategic coaching.
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Some noted that AI could be used before, during, and after protest events and other contentious actions
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to monitor and analyze police and government responses,
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supporting organizers and planning and adapting logistical aspects,
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AI tools could even help track the location and tactical movements of allies and adversaries in real time.
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Moreover, lessons from current military uses of AI,
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such as sticking to plans under pressure and utilizing virtual reality for training,
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could offer activists new methodologies in resilience and adaptability.
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Movements must devise strategies to stay ahead of technological developments, including VR and drones.
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Now, to reiterate what I just read, that is multiple people from this sort of democracy movement
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coming together at Harvard in late 2024 to kick off what has become and will become
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a years-long integration of AI in the broadest sense, but, and frankly, like you heard, a military use case
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into the prepping, the planning, the plotting of all Democrat protests that are going on,
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down to the point where they're talking about virtual reality training for Democrat protesters
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so they can be better acclimated to, you know, whatever police forces or law enforcement officials
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Natalie, do you think this, because it's wargaming is what they're doing,
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do you believe, from what you've seen and observed,
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that anything at DHS that you've seen under Kristi Noem or Tom Holman or Bovino,
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as good as these people are and as well-intentioned as they are,
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have you seen any level of sophistication versus what you're seeing in your research
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And that's why these Bolsheviks in the streets of Minneapolis,
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We've withdrawn 700, I think, Border Patrol from Minneapolis.
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President Trump saying, hey, if I'm invited into sanctuary cities, we'll go,
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but if we're not invited in, if they don't ask, please, we're not going to go.
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Do you think the left has just out-thought us, out-worked us, out-planned for this,
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and really is taking this as the war in the streets that the Bolsheviks have always fought,
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and the only way they get to power is to win these fights?
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I wish, because I think the reality is far more sobering,
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which is that we are up against an extremely well-financed, sinister, Marxist, foreign-linked,
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but cabal of these forces that don't believe America should exist,
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whether because it's an ideological thing, a money thing,
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or like you said, they're Bolsheviks to their core.
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And I think, fundamentally, DHS is treating this issue as something about optics and protests,
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as opposed to color revolution and militant agitators.
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If you worry about optics, these people are always going to be able to run circles around us
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And frankly, I would also really emphasize that leaning in and embracing these authoritarian tropes,
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which is how they've always tried to depict us,
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as you know, Steve, how many times have we discussed on the show,
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the lock that picks, rather the key that picks the lock to allow these USAID global color revolution playbooks
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to be used here in the United States is to depict the Trump administration as an autocracy,
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You have Ann Applebaum and Stacey Abrams doing a beautiful long-form podcast today
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They're always using that terminology because they want to be able to unleash this playbook.
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I think all of the DHS, the ICBP, people who are on the ground there should be very well-versed
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You can read them, and you would understand the enemy that you're up against.
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I wish these were just people who had misguided interpretations of the Constitution
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and really wanted to welcome, you know, Haitian cat-eating migrants into their backyards.
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But these are people who want to see the United States be destroyed.
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Last thing before you bounce, Erica Chenoweth, you've been exposing this now for almost a year on the show.
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Can you please tell me that she's been totally cut off by government funding?
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I know President Trump is suing Harvard, then backing off, then a billion dollars.
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Can you tell the audience right now, as thorough as your research is,
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is she still on getting government grants to do this basically wargaming
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and this organized, really thought-through attack on the United States of America from Harvard?
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Well, she's still pumping out way too much content.
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I don't think she's been lecturing at the U.S. Institute of Peace or USAID
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Kate Starbird, the maven of election censorship,
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she just put out a new paper basically laying the groundwork
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to censor all anti-immigrant content using the same strategies that they did with election stuff.
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you'll see that it's hardwired into some form of government grants.
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Natalie G. Winters, where do we go to keep up with all your great investigative reporting, ma'am?
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Subscribe because we're going to have more reporting coming out on this issue next week.
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