Episode 5142： Embracing The Grassroots To Change The Course Of The Country; Civil War In The Texas GOP
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Summary
Sharia law is on the ballot in Texas on March 3rd, and there's no question that it's going to have a big impact in the state. But what exactly does that mean for the future of the state and the country as a whole? And what role does it play in the upcoming mid-term election? What does it mean for our future in America and the world? In this episode of War Room, host Stephen K. Baughman is joined by Luke Macias, Debbie Georgadas, and Wade Miller to answer these questions and much more.
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Why in the hell do you think they're in Houston and in the north of Dallas?
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They are working together to overthrow Western civilization.
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Sharia compounds, which are areas governed by religious rules.
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We know who you are, we know what you are, and we know what you're trying to accomplish,
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and it is not going to happen in the jewel of the crown of the union of this republic.
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We purge any attempt to impose Sharia law in Texas.
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You are not here properly, and you're going to leave.
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On the 3rd of March, Sharia law goes on the ballot in the state of Texas.
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The United States Constitution and Sharia are fundamentally at odds with one another.
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We're going to tell them, take your Sharia law and shove it.
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Islam will never dominate the United States, and by the grace of God, it will not dominate Texas.
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As Texas goes, so goes the nation. As the nation goes, so goes the world.
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Are you prepared to fight for this state? Are you prepared to fight for your country?
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Your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Starts right now.
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Thank you. Friday, 13 February in the year of war, 2026.
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Observers also comes at it with a grassroots perspective.
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Also, Debbie Georgadas, and she is a sitting member of the Republican National Committee and also a grassroots leader and a media star down here.
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You guys have up, and I want people to get access to this, because this race is obviously more than just Prop 10 and Sharia law,
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but it's vitally important that grassroots support this.
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This is one of the most hotly contested Senate primaries, and I think the nation insists the Republican primary.
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And now that Robeson dropped out of the governor's primary against Andy Biggs in Arizona, which were the two top races,
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I think is the focal point of grassroots throughout the nation.
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CRA has become kind of one of the thought leaders.
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We've got papers, you've got studies, you've got analysis.
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But why is this something that you've been really making sure that CRA is at the lead of this and helping frame this conversation?
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Mainly because I think in the era of political correctness, there has been a willingness, especially on our side, to not understand this through the proper framing.
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Too many on our side look at this through just, well, it's religious liberty.
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The Constitution says that, of course, you can be Muslim.
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And yes, that's correct, but there's a fundamental difference.
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So the Constitution came out of a Christian culture.
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The Constitution reflects the values of a Christian people, and so they are very simpatico.
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What we're seeing, especially with, and we already see it in Europe, and we're seeing it increasingly in the United States,
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is that we are importing an entirely different culture that adheres to a faith that is highly radicalized and very conquering in its written word.
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And so we're seeing, and people like Amy Mech, they cover this all the time, all of these radicalized perspectives,
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and there is an intention by this Islamic minority to start to insert Islam and Sharia into law,
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or effectively make it de facto law, depending on how they want to structure the Sharia courts.
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And I think that there's going to be, from a public policy perspective, a political perspective,
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there's going to be people who will say, you know, no to this.
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But the practical application of it, if the grassroots, and if we don't get principled leadership in Texas,
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You know, people will say, just enough to get elected.
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I mean, this is kind of the hallmark of Greg Abbott.
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And then the practical application on the back end is nothing.
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You know, whether it's the border, whether it's radical Islam,
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the only reason he will ever do anything is if the temperature rises enough
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to where he does the political calculus that he needs to do something.
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I think we need leadership in that state that takes the alternative perspective,
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And regardless of what people think, we have to do this on behalf of our constituents.
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And that's going to take people who understand how to navigate this legally.
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You know, the Christian majority in Texas is not seeking to forcibly convert people to Christianity.
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We have a perspective that if you want to be a Christian, we welcome you.
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Let me tell you about Jesus, our Lord and Savior.
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But we're not out there trying to pass laws demanding that people do that.
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We're not trying to pass laws to adhere to the Bible outside of just natural rights.
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You know, you can't murder people, that kind of stuff.
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And we need people to understand that distinction
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and get out of this failed framing that this is somehow a First Amendment issue
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They do not have a right to try to subvert our entire constitutional order
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And people who are going to attack this and stop it need to understand those distinctions.
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They need to understand this from a statutory perspective.
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They need to understand this from a legal perspective.
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Because if they go in kind of, you know, guns a-blazing and are not thoughtful,
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the courts are going to have an easy way to shoot down all of this progress that we're trying to make.
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We need smart people addressing these problems.
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And people who are not afraid to say that this is a problem and we're going to stop it.
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Yeah, we're going to get to the resources that you provide for that to give people background.
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Because we love the fact that people become an informed citizenry.
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Then they can use their agency to work on things.
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I want to go, you know, we had this galvanizing event that's been about a month ago now
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We had a conference, all-day conference with grassroots leaders.
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Then we had a big dinner and kind of conference we brought in.
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I spoke, but the person that kind of blew it out of the room,
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we brought in Gert Wilders from the Netherlands that gave the perspective
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of what he's been working on for 20 years and how he feels he's lost his country,
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Before I get to New York, talk about the United States.
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Use the example of if you don't get in front of this early enough,
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what is happening, particularly what's happening in Europe.
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Yeah, I mean, it's all about percentages of the population.
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we have seen historically that there has been a trend to kind of blend in and go along.
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But once they reach critical numbers in the population,
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I know that there are Muslims who are perfectly decent people,
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But we're talking about the law of large numbers.
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And if you look at the statistical data that's coming out from Pew,
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large majorities of the populations in all of these Muslim countries that people are coming from
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have highly radicalized positions that are completely incompatible with the United States Constitution.
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And so when these populations reach a certain threshold, whether that's 10 percent or 13 percent or 20 percent,
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then they start really trying to infuse their ideology into the political processes.
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I was just watching a comedian the other day saying that if, you know,
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in order for him to go visit Paris, he now needs to be able to speak Islam.
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They're 10 to 20 years ahead of us on this power curve.
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I don't think that they have what it will take to fix this problem at this point.
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I think demographically it's a huge problem for them.
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I think we have opportunity to change this trajectory.
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And I think that we need, you know, at the national level, vetting standards that are realistic.
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And, you know, if someone believes that you should be murdered for leaving the religion of Islam,
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you should not be allowed in the United States ever.
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And yet large majorities of the people who come here have radicalized positions like this,
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completely at odds with the United States Constitution and Christian civil society.
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I want to talk about New York because it has come here.
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I mean, the color revolution, and we talked about this on the morning show today about,
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you know, DHS, ICE, the retreat, the shutdown, the 10 things they want, all these political battles.
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It's really from the 2020, the stolen election, all the way through the 15 to 20 million, 25 million illegal aliens here.
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But it's this red-green color revolution, this neo-Marxist with jihadists.
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And you see this most prominently in New York City where Mandami, who never spoke in really kind of Arab inflection
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or talked much about Islam in the campaign, is now up every couple of days telling you about how Islam is based on the stranger,
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Medina, in fact, the New York Times had a huge article how this topic has now become the number one topic
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And they used to say with a lot of care and people here in Texas that are Muslim were caught, totally by surprise.
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But they had a quote from, I think, an imam, a local imam, said, yeah, we do look at Texas as the new Medina.
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And people would say, well, hey, he's just reinforcing what we've been talking about.
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Tell me about New York City and how dangerous an example that is.
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Yeah, and there was another imam that said that don't worry about the parents, their children will be Muslim.
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But what we're seeing in New York is, look, Islamists have been doing this for thousands of years.
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They're fairly smart about their strategy of achieving their goals here.
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They are just using the progressive left as useful idiots.
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Do you think that there's really a place for progressive leftists, LBGDQ alliances, climate groups in an Islamist future?
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No, they are using them and working with them purely for political power to upset the existing culture,
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to combine with whatever forces are out there that will work with them in a coalition to subvert and take over power.
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But down the road, I think these radical leftists that are going to be really surprised.
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I mean, try to be an LGBTQ activist right now and go to Afghanistan.
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And that is a harbinger of the future if they allow radical Islam to take political hold
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and don't take steps to mitigate the ability of this political ideology to subvert and destroy our entire culture and constitutional order.
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You had at the morning show, we actually finished the morning show with you,
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and you had a great, not simply warning, but talking to Texas of how important they are in this process now.
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Why is this Texas awakening to this issue to get ahead of it?
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Why is it so important in this time and place, sir?
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They're uniquely situated in terms of what they're seeing with the—what has happened with the importation of radical Islamists into their state
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and also have the political ability through control of their state legislature
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and, in theory, a governor who is sympathetic to it.
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And no matter what happens in this upcoming attorney general race,
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I think you're going to have the next attorney general of Texas will be friendly to this.
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He is methodically looking through all of his options that are on this table.
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I think probably the other candidates are as well.
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But they have a unique ability, and they can show the rest of the country how you do this,
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how you withstand scrutiny in the courts, how you do this from a public policy perspective, and get it right.
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Again, if you go in guns a-blazing, it's going to just have the aura and appearance of just being a bigot.
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I just don't want a radical ideology that a certain percentage of these Islamists hold to change my culture and my constitutional order
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and start to change the shape of what natural law means in this country and who this ultimate source of that.
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Because the answer is it comes from God, and our Constitution already says that.
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So we need to go in and methodically, like scientists, take apart this problem and then show the rest of the country, all of the other states, this is how you do it.
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This is how you fight back against radical Islam.
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This is how you reclaim and protect your culture, as we are empowered to do.
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We have a right to protect our culture, statutorily, legally, etc.
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We need leadership in Texas, whether that be whoever the Speaker of the House is next session.
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We need all of those people to lead on this, not just give us talking points and not just say what people want to hear.
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Concretely put forward plans to deconstruct this problem and show them, like, look, you can be Muslim.
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And you cannot seek out to you cannot seek to overtly destroy our constitutional order.
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You've got tons of information about all these topics and how to really get smart.
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Of course, Russ Vogt, all the alumni in the government right now helping President Trump.
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Where do people go right now to get access to all this information?
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They've done such a great job on Sharia law, the Islamic invasion, all of it.
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We're going to have two of the smartest minds on politics and particularly from a grassroots perspective.
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Luke Macias and Debbie Giorgatis are going to join us next show commercial break.
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Luke, first off, you know, the audience met you the first time was, I think, in the Paxton
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impeachment and then later in the redistricting fight.
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And you saw I was talking to Wade and Wade was on our morning show and we talked about it
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and he said, he ended the show this morning saying, what's happening in Texas now in the
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It's really important for the entire Judeo-Christian West, having probably maybe lost Europe or Europe's
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Just first off, you're one of the top political minds in there.
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You've got a great show and I want everybody to make sure they go to it.
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Why is Texas so important, not just in Texas, but for the country, but...
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We had a massive audience for the impeachment, not just nationwide.
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Why does it seem that things that happened in Texas galvanize massive interest outside
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Well, one of the things I think that your show did during impeachment was it nationalized
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If the state of Louisiana is fighting about something, no matter how much we talk about it,
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When Texas takes on some of these battles, and we have been the epicenter of some of
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the largest civil war battles in the Republican Party, and that's what's happening in Texas.
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And so when you started talking about the impeachment issue, when you started talking
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about redistricting, it nationalized this conversation.
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And I think that's one of the reasons why this primary is so important.
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The difference between the conservative side of the GOP and the moderate establishment side
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I will say that we've had massive victories, largely due to the grassroots network across
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And that's the other reason it's so important, is because so many people actually know what's
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I mean, you would literally get a couple conservative leaders in a room with 40 people to even know
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Nobody was doing scorecards on the votes being taken.
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And I think the reason the battle is so important is because the establishment is spending so
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much money because people know more than they ever have.
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Why is it, why do you have this break between, because even more than Florida or Arizona or
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anything, even Ohio, Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement.
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You got such a vast group of just dedicated grassroots that do all the hard pick and shovel
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What is the, what is the political establishment here, the business establishment?
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Why are they not embracing the grassroots and realize that if the, if you really had unity
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here, you could absolutely change the direction of country because you see on Capitol Hill
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right now, President Trump, even with the Republicans in the Senate, I mean, we do all this work to
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do the safe America act and put these things together.
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And the guys have a perfunctory vote, the team, you know, men and women, perfunctory
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And they're over at Munich at the security conference, even as we speak, and we're going
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to have a DHS shutdown and no election integrity.
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And Texas, you're right, is the epicenter of the civil war.
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So one of the things I remember that came out with the Paxton impeachment was the realization
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that some of the more moderate establishment business, uh, you know, country club forces
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in the GOP are flexing their muscle because they are losing power every single election.
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And even in that election, you know, 17 Republican incumbents lost their primary.
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They have less power and influence than they ever have before.
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I think that's another reason why we see the civil war conflicts in the GOP still existing
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because they know that if they can't at least stem the momentum that conservatives have
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started, they will lose entire control of Texas.
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And these are individuals who've put a ton of money into this state for a long time.
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Remember, we have counties that have larger operating budgets than some states in the
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And I always say a lot more money just gives you kind of a boost to sin and nature and all
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the natural causes that cause us to do the wrong things.
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Those forces are putting more than they ever have because they know that conservatives
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have gained substantially over the last several years, in my opinion.
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So you're one of the most astute guys mathematically in all this, because eventually you got to
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get to the math and you've been making this point.
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This is the most may end up being the most expensive Republican Senate primary in the
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But you're saying you're not seeing the polls move all that much.
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The amount of money being spent and why does it seem that this race is kind of at least a
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little bit defined, it's all going to be about get out the vote, but it appears that money
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Money doesn't seem to be driving substantially the polls one way or another.
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You're in a Republican primary for U S Senate, where at this point, I think when you count
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all sides, it's going to be well over a hundred million dollars they could spend on the Senate
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And the polling that was six months ago is largely the polling that was three months ago
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is largely the polling that was yesterday is that there's single digit, everything's
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One person goes to 35%, then they dropped down to 32, then they go to 31.
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Ultimately, I think you're going to see likely at this point, because Wesley Hunt jumped in
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the race, a, a runoff between Senator Cornyn and attorney general Paxton.
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And it seems like that's exactly what the polling said before the a hundred million dollars
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And it's exactly what the polling is saying now that the money's all been spent.
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The issue of Sharia, I think, uh, collectively a group of people came together and gave people
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I noticed when you talk about John Cornyn, he's got an ad out now anti, you know, uh, don't
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I think he put in legislation, I think it was last night or this morning to ban Sharia law.
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Now, how is, is he, is this now driving, you know, the New York times had a huge article,
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the Texas tribune had a huge article about this kind of coming out of nowhere, what they
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First off, why did it perceive come out of nowhere and how important is this issue in
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And everybody who's been talking about this issue for two and three years, Debbie Georgiatis,
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And the title was, we just had the most pro Muslim session in Texas history.
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And I remember it was a couple hundred people that watched it at the time.
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A bunch of Republican politicians started calling those of us who were criticizing them
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for celebrating Muslim holidays and putting the Muslim faith into Texas law.
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And now all those same Republicans are out there saying, we got to ban all of this all
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I posted the first text I got from Senator Cornyn that talked about Sharia law on Twitter
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three, four weeks ago and just said Overton window.
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I know that there's a lot not happening that we're disappointed in, but every now and then
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when people move in the right direction, we go, hey, this is a win because we're all
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Now the question is, what are we going to do about it?
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And I know that's part of what you want to talk about.
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And then they started celebrating every Muslim holiday they could.
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They started getting all of their Christian fellow lawmakers to attend all of their Muslim
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They started trying to put imams and halal food into Texas code.
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They wanted to put the Muslim faith into Texas code wherever they could.
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And that's why I think it is kind of reaching that pinnacle of awareness.
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People are finally saying, I don't want to touch this.
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I remember a friend of mine in Weatherford, and I'll close with this, that he was running
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Mike Alcott is his name, total grassroots champion.
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And so Glenn Rogers starts getting criticized for voting to celebrate all these Muslim holidays
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And Mike Alcott's pastor gets up on Sunday and says, Mike Alcott's right there.
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And I'll tell you this, he's never going to celebrate Muslim holidays at the Texas house.
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And you started realizing even the pastors in the pulpits are waking up.
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So I think it's been a three-year journey at this point on the Muslim issue in particular.
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Luke, just go back over there because you've said something that I don't think people
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They've been very aggressive, even with a very small foothold, because they're very savvy
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They've been very aggressive of trying to get Islamic law basically coded in to Texas law.
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Just give me a minute on that, and then we'll let you punch.
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But I think this is quite, this is something people have to focus on.
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The, many of the bills that the Muslim members of the Texas house are, were able to pass over
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So the Texas Senate has a group of lawmakers to say that the Senate never celebrates the
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It does not insert Muslim, the Muslim faith into Texas code, but they will do things like
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taking a particular portion of code that says who can marry somebody.
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And even though imams can currently marry somebody, they can go get a certificate and marry somebody,
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And so they're trying to insert their faith into Texas code.
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But you start looking at all their bills, and they all have that theme.
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The resolutions they pass, that is the state of Texas officially celebrating the Muslim faith.
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And culture is what you honor and what you shame.
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And they want the culture in Texas to be one that honors the Muslim faith weekly in the
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And so I think the grassroots even bringing attention to that, you now have even middle
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of the road Republicans begging leadership to just kill all of the Muslim resolutions because
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they're tired of having to answer for it back in their districts.
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Because you're one of the smartest political minds in the state of Texas.
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the great thing about this is both with luke and debbie they both host uh shows uh that are
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incredibly informative debbie uh you join us now i also want people to understand you're a national
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committee woman from the state of texas and every state's got equal representation in the rnc but you
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do represent the jewel in the crown you're one of the three people that represent you know there's 31
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million people in texas that's the eighth biggest economy and since we don't have a lot of uh we don't
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have a lot of stroke in california uh you know people look to you on the on the republican national
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committee as one of the real leaders just from a national perspective before we get in we just had
00:31:01.220
the sharia caucus meet we had tuberville on here the other day he was a senate member of a chip roy
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we played spots we we voted on the save america act right to get some modicum of uh of organization
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and common sense in the national elections and the senate took a perfunctory uh vote you know and all
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the republicans voted for it 53 john thune i think uh flipped because technicality you got if you want to
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bring it back up you got to do that fetterman also i believe voted for it but there's no push uh to do
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go to a standing filibuster to go to a talking filibuster and so what's your perspective with
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just what's happening president trump is trying to get things done he's trying to codify things
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what's your perspective from the rnc of of of how we're doing and now we're getting ready to the run-up
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of the midterm elections man yeah thank you i love representing texas in the republican national
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committee it is a i love being a texan you know um on the rnc there are a wide range of people who
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they represent various states and so there's you know it's a wide range of people but i my sense is
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that within the republican national committee i'm not speaking on their behalf i am not a spokesperson
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for them but my sense in being at meetings and talking to them most of them understand we have to
00:32:15.080
pass the save act and we have to support president trump's efforts to get elections honest and fair
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the very basic requirements of save act so at least personally speaking for me in texas i'm really
00:32:26.340
disappointed that the republicans who do have the majority in the senate don't just use that power
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because the the filibuster rule is not in the constitution it's not a federal mandate in law
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it is something that can just be done away with and i think that the need what is really needed
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more than anything else is to have people around the country and patriots telling their members the
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u.s senate your republican members we want you to get rid of the filibuster pass the save act get this
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done the save act is about really saving america's elections it is that serious because we've had a
00:33:03.680
decade of corruption and the ability of people who aren't citizens and shouldn't be voting being able to
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cast a ballot this is just getting back to honest elections i really encourage grassroots everywhere
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to communicate with your senator and say get the dang thing done and stop worrying about the
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filibuster rule because it's not they're not compelled to to follow that rule they don't have to do it
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they just put it up put the issue up have the vote get it done is one of your concerns is i know this
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is the president's concern is that hey this has been a custom and tradition it used to be a standing
00:33:36.860
filibuster that's where you saw the mr smith goes to washington but then it became the 60
00:33:40.380
vote uh and it has by the way it's protected us from an amnesty but his point is the democrats have
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been very vocal and they got a quite radical plan about adding maybe puerto rico as a state expanding
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you know mike lee keeps warning about packing the court like fdr tried to do to get over that the
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democrats will immediately if they take over the senate drop and the senate's in the balance right now
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we got to be honest about that that they will immediately uh get rid of the filibuster not even do
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a standing filibuster so they control things with 51 uh 51 votes uh is is that your concern is that
00:34:14.500
one of the reasons you're advocating that we got to be very smart about this now absolutely i don't
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think there's any doubt if there's an opportunity for the democrats having control of the senate
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to end the filibuster i think there's no doubt they'll do it we watched the four years under
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biden harris just running roughshod over the country over the laws the abuse that was inflicted on
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by the doj and the fbi on trump supporters i just think that the base in america the republican base
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they know we need to have the filibuster to end and i think there's no doubt at all the democrats will
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do that they are on a mission they're on a mission that you saw under biden harris to really undermine
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all of the um the freedoms of america this the democrat party is a very dangerous radical leftist
00:34:58.180
place and i think they will seize that power and and the filibuster if they can and we need to do it
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while we still can what about uh they just announced that chip roy is one of the leaders in this uh from
00:35:09.380
texas uh senator tuberville jumped in but the the announcement this past week of and of course keith
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self uh the colonel self doing a great job leading it also this uh congressional uh anti-sharia
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caucus sharia free america caucus how important was that for the efforts down here in texas
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it is hugely important uh to have texas congressmen and in the lead of it and
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also congressman brandon gill has been outspoken my congressman keith self along with chip roy
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this really brings national attention you know i think people who listen to your show are just
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they're activists or serious thinkers and so they probably understood we had a problem for quite a
00:35:50.840
while but for the federal government the united states house of representatives to form a sharia
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free caucus to put bills in place to try to implement what they're what they're trying to do
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which is end the potential for sharia uh invading america it is hugely consequential it actually gives
00:36:08.360
legitimacy to the conversation among elected officials in texas it's not just a small little
00:36:14.100
group of people meeting in a dark room whispering about being concerned about sharia the u.s
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congress housed a sharia free caucus it opens it gives people permission to talk about it and to
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talk about it for the serious threat that it is by the way we've played multiple times now the first
00:36:30.320
session they had they had some incredible witnesses and brandon gill who's a rising star not just in the
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texas delegation brandon gill's a rising star in the house of representatives his questioning was just
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absolutely brilliant as he went through the opposing witnesses to really get to the bottom of how some
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phony their some of their statistics were let's go to texas now before i talk about sharia law you
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mentioned how radical the democrats are getting we're seeing this all over seen in minneapolis we're
00:36:55.120
seeing it in new york city uh in california i mean this is not your your father's democratic party and
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the democratic party had had basically i come from the commonwealth of virginia when i was a small kid
00:37:06.620
everybody were democrats right there was no republican party the same in texas i mean texas has been a
00:37:13.080
democratic state for a long time but that's changed over the last 30 years uh republicans
00:37:18.260
are clearly in power but you're seeing uh and i i've been here now for i think three weeks and we
00:37:23.220
watch the tv ads we're meeting every day with people the texas democratic party part of it like
00:37:28.560
in the senate nine situation you actually have dsa you got the working family party down in houston
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uh very uh very strong you got jasmine crockett i think right now jasmine crockett could be odds
00:37:39.980
on favorite to win the senate primary i mean the democratic party in texas is pretty radical is it
00:37:45.960
not it is and you know i used to comment about the democrat party in minnesota because i my have
00:37:52.520
family roots in minnesota my parent my dad grew up there and they were flat out marxist the the ones
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the democrats in in minneapolis not in minnesota i used to think well texas is different you know we're
00:38:02.920
all texans here we love liberty we love the spirit of texas but yes the texas democrat party
00:38:07.940
is not fighting any of they didn't stand up during the four years of biden harris against any of the
00:38:13.940
policies they all acted like it was normal and yes there are growing uh core groups within the
00:38:19.900
democrat party in texas they're just not on board with the basic idea of a u.s constitution the texas
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constitution the ideas that give us freedom and opportunity and all and and that whole spirit of
00:38:31.600
texas individualism and and texas liberty and strength that is that is really only owned by the
00:38:38.140
republican party in texas these days the democrats are across the country radical and i'm sad to say
00:38:43.140
the radical bent of the democrat party has come to texas as well debbie one of the reasons i think
00:38:49.700
people are so thankful that you're on the republican national committee is you're looked at as one of
00:38:53.860
the voices of the grassroots in texas and one of the leaders of the grassroots in texas talked about
00:38:58.940
this why is the grassroots in texas so big so profound and and quite frankly is fighting
00:39:04.500
the republican establishment every day but winning more than losing what is it about texas that has
00:39:10.360
this kind of very robust grassroots uh movement that is such a great question i'll tell you my
00:39:16.880
husband and i'm going to admit on air here i grew up in new york but my husband and i arrived in texas in
00:39:22.560
the year 2000 we were here about two weeks we thought we said we will never leave we love this place
00:39:28.060
it's a spirit of liberty and part of i think it is some of texas history just how we came to be a
00:39:33.680
state and and fought against um fought for independence first we were an independent country
00:39:38.560
ourselves and that briefly and then became part of america but i think there's a spirit of liberty that
00:39:44.720
is taught generationally a lot of it has to do with ranching and farming and people really living
00:39:50.420
off of their own personal work and responsibility and ability to make their way in the world so i think
00:39:56.680
there's a there's a spirit of liberty here that is is carried on by ranchers and farmers uh but even
00:40:02.460
within the cities the republican parties are just there there is a division you allude to it's very
00:40:08.260
true there's a an establishment wing of the party and the more grassroots uh wing of the party and and
00:40:14.700
yes grassroots are very strong grassroots conservatives in texas very strong um and very um and and so far
00:40:21.840
really i would say at least publicly you know the establishment wing and the conservatives we try to
00:40:27.720
work together we have a lot of common ground uh and i think they are recognizing if you don't recognize
00:40:33.780
in america today how radical the left is how dangerous their agenda is they just left the border
00:40:39.000
open for four years so i think maybe republicans they have you have a more establishment group grassroots
00:40:44.300
group but we can come together and recognize it's the democrat radical marxist socialist agenda and the
00:40:51.080
the left of america that is our real enemy so i think moving forward i also think that the republican
00:40:57.800
conservative grassroots types we speak up a lot and we we are active in the legislation we go down to
00:41:03.880
legislature during this session we try to explain why we think some bill is so important why this issue
00:41:08.560
must be addressed and i think that it does end up carrying the day because the activists and also the
00:41:15.100
state republican executive committee very very active showing up in the legislature urging them
00:41:20.560
please stand with this and against this so i think there's a there's just an energy that is engaging
00:41:25.620
down here among conservatives and and i think it's helping to move the party or keep it to the right
00:41:30.740
we got about 90 seconds i want to go to break but i do want to hold you through the break and bring
00:41:35.200
you back um the grassroots has driven kind of the permission structure the grassroots forced
00:41:39.820
has really forced this whole issue of of prop 10 and sharia law on the ballot but you know john
00:41:45.520
cornyn has put out an ad that he's you know he's all for prop 10 and anti-sharia law don't sharia my
00:41:51.080
texas he just put i think announced a new law that he's putting forward in in uh in the senate uh talk
00:41:58.080
to me about that the grassroots here drove the conversation we're going to spend more time about
00:42:02.500
it when we come back for you give me a minute of that the grassroots here drove this into the
00:42:06.720
the public square absolutely 100 the reason there is a proposition on the master primary ballot that
00:42:13.840
says texas should prohibit sharia law is because of the grassroots it is hugely significant that the
00:42:19.600
attorney general candidates in texas all three of them that are better seriously in play talk openly
00:42:24.680
about the danger of sharia the u.s senate candidates brought the issue up uh turn general paxton being
00:42:30.940
very very you know very active in his campaign for u.s senate has talked about the issue i think that
00:42:36.440
john cornyn finally i realized i guess we have to get on board with this issue so it is helping the
00:42:41.760
cause of raising the alarm bell about sharia that all these players in texas they will now speak up
00:42:47.820
publicly these candidates about what with the threat we face in texas debbie jurigatis uh you're gonna
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We'll have you back on next week about you're one of the grassroots leaders,
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how the grassroots should approach talking to people about Proposition 10, ma'am.
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Proposition 10 is the single most important vote we can do in this March or primary bill,
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of course, along with the Senate and the Attorney General race.
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But the reason Proposition 10, and it will pass, but we need it to pass with overwhelming majority.
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And the reason is it gives courage, strength, and a message of pressure to elected officials,
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state reps, state senators, U.S. Congress, that the people of Texas want you to take action.
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It's a primal scream of the people to our elected officials, do something.
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And there are many, many ways in which Sharia is already in place in Texas.
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But it sends a message that we're defending our American Constitution, our freedom,
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our very existence as Texas, the land of self-reliance and independence.
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You can find it online at americacanretalk.org.
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We also have a website on this cause for ban Sharia.
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But back to my social media on Twitter, it's at Debbie, D-E-B-B-I-E, at Debbie Can We Talk.
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You can find me under America Can We Talk or under Debbie Georgias.
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You said, hey, the precinct strategy, which has been so powerful in building the grassroots across the nation, and particularly in Texas.
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I just had a precinct chairman on that came in with the precinct strategy.
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They're under assault right now with very nefarious activity.
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Okay, so I've seen text messages and some banners from these PACs that are not even, you know, registered in the counties where they're going after the precinct chair.
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The precinct chairs are the folks that are basically boots on the ground, knocking doors, knowing who's running and making recommendations.
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And so it's kind of like there's these PACs that are coming in.
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You know, why is it time to be taking them out?
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So just be very careful about, you know, accepting something that might say MAGA or Trump on it because it can be just—it's like, I feel like this is a psych op operation or something like this.
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You and Debbie have done such a heavy lifting on the grassroots side.
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But as I said last time, you know, politics is a dirty word among conservatives.
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And unfortunately, if you don't vote, which we absolutely have to vote.
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You know, we had low turnout here in the special election.
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Exactly, but on a lot of different special elections as well.
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We need to get off of our couches, and we need to vote for the best and the most conservative candidate.
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People complain about the candidates that are running in November, and they shouldn't complain if they didn't vote.
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