Bannon's War Room - Episode 5150： Middle East Edges Closer To War; Counting The People Voting Is Just As Important As Hand Counting Ballots

00:00:00.000 We saw some military posturing from both sides, Inez, ahead of these talks.

00:00:04.740 What are the leaders saying now?

00:00:08.180 Hey, Laura. Yeah, big day of diplomacy here in Geneva as the U.S. held talks on both Iran and Ukraine.

00:00:13.760 When it comes to Iran, we know those talks went on for about three and a half hours.

00:00:17.060 They did wrap. We saw the U.S. and Iranian delegations leaving a few hours ago.

00:00:22.960 Things got a bit heated. There were protesters on the scene yelling at the Americans,

00:00:26.700 questioning why are you negotiating with terrorists.

00:00:30.140 We know that it was the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and the special envoy, Steve Whitcoff,

00:00:35.220 that were leading the U.S. delegation on the Iranian side.

00:00:38.060 It was the Iranian foreign minister.

00:00:40.200 And interestingly, as these talks were underway, we did get some quite defiant language from Iran's supreme leader.

00:00:46.400 So I'll just read you a couple of quotes.

00:00:47.480 He said, the U.S. president keeps saying that they have the strongest military force in the world.

00:00:51.800 The strongest military force in the world may at times be struck so hard that it cannot get up again.

00:00:56.940 He went on to say, the Americans constantly say that they've sent a warship toward Iran.

00:01:02.060 So, of course, referring to the second aircraft carrier that's on its way.

00:01:05.660 Of course, a warship is a dangerous piece of military hardware.

00:01:08.680 However, more dangerous than that warship is the weapon that can send that warship to the bottom of the sea.

00:01:15.020 And in terms of, you know, what was actually said during the talk, so there's still a lot we don't know.

00:01:18.720 But we did get comments from both the Iranian side and from the U.S. side that would seem to indicate that progress has been made.

00:01:24.800 So I'll read you what a U.S. official told MSNOW.

00:01:28.400 He said progress was made, but there are still a lot of details to discuss.

00:01:32.020 The Iranians said they would come back in the next two weeks with detailed proposals to address some of our open,

00:01:37.000 some of the open gaps in our positions.

00:01:39.640 The Iranians did suggest that there could be a third round of negotiations on the way.

00:01:44.720 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:52.280 Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.

00:01:57.420 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:02:01.740 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:02:03.640 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:02:05.080 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:02:07.760 It's going to happen.

00:02:08.800 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:02:12.460 MAGA Media.

00:02:13.780 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:19.220 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:22.980 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:29.320 War Room.

00:02:30.180 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:02:32.600 It's Tuesday, 17, February, in the year of the Lord, 2026.

00:02:42.720 Welcome to the 5 o'clock edition of the War Room.

00:02:45.140 Just some logistics.

00:02:47.920 War Room, Texas is going to immediately follow us. 0.88

00:02:50.200 It's an incredible show, so make sure you stick around for that.

00:02:52.400 But right after that, at 7 p.m. Eastern, I think Eastern Standard Time, we're going to live stream the debate with the Texas AG for the Attorney General.

00:03:05.440 We did the debate the other night for the Ag Commissioner, and we've got a breakdown.

00:03:09.860 We're going to actually break that down.

00:03:11.480 I had a very big audience for that on Sunday night of President's Weekend.

00:03:14.500 We are going to break down some of the answers there, particularly on illegal immigrant labor and halal food.

00:03:21.280 As you know, Sharia law is on the ballot here, first day of early voting in Texas, ballot 3 March is the election day.

00:03:31.200 And Prop 10 to ban Sharia law in Texas is on the ballot.

00:03:37.500 Also, a little more logistics.

00:03:38.660 Our own Ben Harnwell has left Rome, and Dr. Thay has left the United States.

00:03:44.100 They're en route to a defense and strategic conference.

00:03:48.100 We'll be bringing them in live on Thursday and Friday.

00:03:53.860 But every 6 o'clock show this week, Ben can't do a show on the road.

00:03:57.600 Every 6 o'clock show this week will be War Room, Texas, and also the second hour of Saturday's show.

00:04:03.180 So we're going to do it, and probably do it every day, and figure out how we juggle Ben's show.

00:04:07.180 First off, the show on Catholicism and Christianity on Wednesdays at 6, and, of course, his international news on Friday, which has been – both shows have been on fire.

00:04:19.120 But every night this week will be War Room, Texas, and we'll be interviewing Ben and Thayer from overseas at this conference.

00:04:27.040 Also, Matt Boyle tomorrow from Greece.

00:04:29.160 So we've got a lot going on.

00:04:30.740 Captain Jim Fennell joins us.

00:04:32.340 Captain, so there's been – you know, we had Rabbi Walecki on this morning, had some technical issues, couldn't get you on.

00:04:37.860 But I think it's better, actually, this afternoon.

00:04:39.640 We now know kind of a framework to moving forward.

00:04:42.840 Of course, as the rabbi says, and people that know the Iranians or the Persians, you know, the Persians are so bureaucratic. 0.99

00:04:48.400 They negotiate just to get to the next meeting, and they consider that a big win.

00:04:51.580 And I want to really, though, focus on the big stick.

00:04:55.780 President Trump has a negotiating style, and part of that is he likes to have leverage on his side, not financial leverage, but I call operational leverage.

00:05:04.520 Having been, as the audience knows, a young naval officer in the first – our first endeavor off the coast of Iran back in 1979 and 1980 with the first of the – at Camel Station and Gonzo Station, as you'll remember, with two carrier battle groups there.

00:05:21.460 I have never seen it – if we leave out actual foot soldiers from the first Gulf War on the Iraq invasion of Kuwait, I think this is the biggest collection of American hardware put together since – I don't know, because it's bigger and more lethal than what we had in 1980 than at any time maybe since WW2.

00:05:44.860 Was anything in Vietnam or Korea anything close to this, sir?

00:05:47.960 Well, Steve, I think it's not quite as big as Desert Storm had five aircraft carriers, but again, that was a six-month buildup.

00:05:57.660 So right now, what we have with President Trump and the Secretary of War put together is two carrier strike groups are going to be in the region.

00:06:07.380 One is already there, the USS Abraham Lincoln with its Air Wing 9, and then the USS Gerald R. Ford, as people know,

00:06:17.340 have been ordered across the Atlantic, so it's in a transatlantic transit right now.

00:06:22.600 So it's heading to the region.

00:06:24.540 In addition to that, over the last couple of weeks, you've seen over 250 flights from American aircraft into the region in terms of for deploying aircraft.

00:06:36.600 So, for instance, from Lake and Heath in England, we have 54 F-35s, 36 F-15s.

00:06:45.020 In Jordan, we have 12 F-16s, 12 F-35s, six prowlers or 18 growlers.

00:06:55.240 I'm a little prowler guy, so that confused me there.

00:06:58.080 And then one squadron of A-10s.

00:06:59.720 So we have a number of aircraft that were just imaged over the weekend in Jordan.

00:07:03.480 We have 12 F-35s in Saudi Arabia.

00:07:07.940 Those are just the strike aircraft.

00:07:09.840 And there's a whole load of tankers, airborne early warning and command and control aircraft, ISR, unmanned, manned vehicles.

00:07:21.160 And in the naval arena, like I said, two carrier strike groups that comprise, you know, with what's afloat and in the theaters over probably 1,000 T-LAMs that are now in the region that are going to be able to be brought to bear if the president decides to do so.

00:07:38.380 15 destroyers, guided missile cruiser destroyers and cruisers, at least four attack, nuclear attack submarines that carry T-LAMs.

00:07:47.260 The second fleet command ship, USS Mount Whitney, is in the region to there to coordinate all the naval fires and work that with CENTCOM and EUCOM.

00:07:57.620 We also have two, this is worth noting, two expeditionary mobile bases, the ESBs.

00:08:04.060 And these allow for special operations forces to operate like we saw with the Operation Absolute Resolve off of Venezuela.

00:08:13.840 So there's also A-10 warthogs that are in theater.

00:08:17.880 The 10th Mountain Division from the U.S. Army has had a rotation.

00:08:21.080 So they're in the CENTCOM AOR right now.

00:08:24.520 And then there's a number of resupply ships, oilers, refuelers and resupply ships, because there's literally tens of thousands of sailors and Marines afloat that will need to be resupplied at sea.

00:08:36.320 And then across all the bases that we have in the region, there's nine countries that have got American forces that have some of these platforms, whether they're aircraft or ships or ISR platforms.

00:08:49.220 It's Spain, Italy, Greece, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Croatia and Djibouti and the U.K.

00:08:57.300 So there's a lot of force that's coming in, you know, comparing to other times.

00:09:02.660 I'm not sure that's really helpful right now, though.

00:09:04.840 What I would say is, in my professional estimate, is that the pieces are being moved in to strike Iran. 0.99

00:09:11.640 Now, diplomacy and negotiations are another thing.

00:09:14.980 But sending the USS Gerald R. Ford, who's been on deployment since last June, is not a kind of a bluff thing.

00:09:23.980 You have sailors that have been at sea for almost 10 months.

00:09:27.600 If they stay out there through the middle of April, through tax day, they'll have been at sea for 294 days.

00:09:33.340 And if they stay into May, they'll have been out there for, you know, almost a year.

00:09:37.680 So there are this is a really serious movement by the president, the secretary of war.

00:09:43.840 And these are not.

00:09:44.840 Hang on.

00:09:46.840 I want to walk people through the Navy and how they think about deployments to have a carrier.

00:09:51.580 They're obviously the largest warship we have.

00:09:54.620 But to keep a carrier underway essentially for a year or looks like longer if you're going to do this.

00:10:01.280 How big a deal is that is the way the Navy thinks about its assets?

00:10:05.780 Well, in my 29 years in the Navy, I deployed a lot of aircraft carriers, especially in the first 20 years.

00:10:10.580 And for the most part, I was in the service from 86 until 2014, 2015.

00:10:15.440 And in most of that period, they were six month deployments.

00:10:19.120 But over the last two decades, the deployment lengths have exceeded up to nine to 10 months due to the lack of maintenance and resources for our Navy,

00:10:27.900 which is a whole nother topic that we could that we have talked about and we could talk about.

00:10:32.020 But the fact is something this long, it could exceed even the nine or 10.

00:10:36.040 It's going to exceed the 10 month duration.

00:10:38.500 So this is something that we haven't seen since the Vietnam War when there used to be sometimes yearlong deployments out to the Gulf of Tonkin, Yankee Station.

00:10:50.660 So this is really serious.

00:10:53.480 This is not just some kind of slight, in my opinion.

00:10:56.680 I think something seriously is coming.

00:10:58.340 And when you combine these conventional forces that are going to be able to bring, I saw some estimates saying at least 800 tactical sorties a day, you know, combat air sorties that could be delivered against Iran.

00:11:10.380 And combine that with our global reach capabilities, with the U.S. Air Force bombing capabilities, like we saw last June in Operation Midnight Hammer, to go after these key nuclear, whatever remains, if there's anything that remains,

00:11:25.820 anything in the nuclear arena that's been reconstituted or removed in, or anything that China or Russia had moved in, we're going to have absolute, I mean, just we saw an absolute resolve in Venezuela.

00:11:40.380 We saw an absolute exquisite intelligence.

00:11:42.340 And so I would expect that the intelligence community that helped find and do the Operation Midnight Hammer are the same people that have been watching all the buildup in the post, you know, Midnight Hammer operations, watching everything that's going on in Iran.

00:11:58.480 So we're going to have a good beat on where all their Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps forces are, which is their kind of their religious military-infused army and forces, plus the regular mainline forces of their military, as well as the leadership.

00:12:17.660 Where is the leadership?

00:12:18.760 Where are all the key leaders?

00:12:20.020 Where have they gone?

00:12:20.840 There's been a lot of feints and moves over the last few weeks, a month, and people have been moving around in Iran based on different things that the president has said.

00:12:30.120 So intelligence was gathered in this last month to know where these people are.

00:12:34.460 So I think right now, if I was Iranian, I'd either come to the table and make a, you know, I'd open my card and say, I want a deal.

00:12:42.060 Otherwise, I think hell is coming to earth in Iran. 1.00

00:12:45.120 So hang on for a second.

00:12:47.120 One of the big holdups, Reuters had an exclusive over the President's Day weekend that said that there is a plan, if he decides to use it, that would be a multi-week bombing campaign.

00:13:01.680 This would not be like the 12-day war, one and done.

00:13:04.280 This would not be like Venezuela.

00:13:05.860 One of the issues here is President Trump, I think, has asked many times, what's the target set?

00:13:11.400 If I go do this, I want to take down the governing infrastructure and let the Persian people deal with it. 1.00

00:13:17.240 We got about a minute here, and I'm going to hold you, obviously, the break.

00:13:20.980 Isn't that the big hangup, the target set of action, how long it will take?

00:13:24.940 I can't imagine the president's going to want to go, will want to go two, three, four weeks of bombing Tehran, sir.

00:13:32.820 Nobody wants a war to go that long to induce risk in some sense.

00:13:40.820 But you plan for a campaign, and you have a systematic target list.

00:13:47.380 And the target list will go from civilian or religious government leaders, secret police, which is a big factor that's really oppressing the people of Iran, and then the IRGC, and then the regular Iranian military.

00:14:00.960 So those are four big categories that they're going to have to go after.

00:14:04.620 And when you go after the leadership and you take out leadership, both of the national government and the military, then the other pieces are going to be much easier to go after.

00:14:16.640 Captain, just hang on for a second.

00:14:18.340 You're going to stick around with us.

00:14:19.340 We're going to hold you through the break, talk about the defensive capabilities of why some of the people in the region are quite worried about these ballistic missiles.

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00:16:22.140 War Room.

00:16:23.220 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:26.920 Captain Jim Fennell joins us.

00:16:29.000 Captain, you were head of naval intelligence for PAC Fleet or PAC Com?

00:16:36.400 Pacific Fleet.

00:16:37.120 Pacific Fleet.

00:16:39.320 And you were basically, you got in some issues there during the Obama administration because you warned, you came forward, I think it was at the Naval Academy, if I remember.

00:16:48.580 You came forward and warned the American people that folks who are asleep at the switch on the rise of the Chinese Communist Party's People's Liberation Navy, particularly its ability to project power in places like the South China Sea, the First Island Chain, Straits of Taiwan, Taiwan, all the way out to American holdings in the Western Pacific?

00:17:08.700 Yeah, it was a speech at the U.S. Naval Institute and Armed Forces Communication Electronic Association conference called WEST in San Diego in 2013 to 2014.

00:17:22.220 And that didn't go over too well because it was kind of the first time anybody had spoken out against the Chinese being a threat.

00:17:29.980 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:17:31.180 Not only were you correct, it's actually been worse than you even envisioned, sir?

00:17:36.260 Well, they have followed through.

00:17:40.480 They've done everything that we said they were going to do in terms of their buildup of their military, and we're watching them use aggressive tactics against our allies, whether it's in the South China Sea against the Philippines, against our allies in Japan and the East China Sea as we see aggressive action there.

00:17:56.680 And then they've expanded their naval operations beyond the First and Second Island Chain into the Indian Ocean, into the Mediterranean, into the Baltic.

00:18:04.280 They were held up a bit with COVID, but they're back and they're raging again, and their military growth is exponential.

00:18:11.900 They're building five to nine times as many ships as we do.

00:18:15.960 They have the industrial capacity to do that, and they have a very, very capable anti-ship cruise missile fleet,

00:18:22.500 fleet with an anti-ballistic missile fleet in terms of supersonic and hypersonic weapons that are designed specifically to sink the U.S. Pacific fleet in the Western Pacific and essentially do what the Japanese tried to do to us on 7 December 1941 in Pearl Harbor.

00:18:41.080 I'm not saying you're a senior advisor to the President or Secretary of the Navy, but if you look at the President talking about the fleet he wants to build, if you look at his, what he's doing for what I call hemispheric defense,

00:18:53.320 which is really naval-centric all the way from the Arctic to the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap, Greenland, the Gulf of America, the Caribbean, all of it.

00:19:02.980 You believe, I think, very strongly that President Trump's probably the greatest proponent of sea power, maybe even more than President Reagan, who was great, but I mean at the level of FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, sir?

00:19:19.460 Well, he has definitely set the agenda in this first year with creating the Office of Shipbuilding in the White House.

00:19:26.860 And then what we just saw released here with the National Security Strategy, National Defense Strategy in December and January here.

00:19:34.580 And then just in this last weekend, there was also released yesterday the American Maritime Action Plan, which was what the Office of Shipbuilding was tasked to do.

00:19:44.460 And they've come out with a plan with four pillars to rebuild America's shipbuilding industry and our merchant marine fleet and our naval fleet.

00:19:52.540 And so there's an actual plan that's been put together by really smart people, and they're not just putting pie in the sky, but they're applying,

00:20:00.360 they know where the resources are and what resources need to be acquired and how to re-transform the way we build ships from, you know, high-intensity human involvement to more AI and robotics.

00:20:13.380 There's a lot of work left to be done, so I'll withhold judgment until I actually see the 600 ships that we say that we want to have both manned and unmanned.

00:20:21.700 It's actually over 500, but it's a great plan.

00:20:24.720 It's a good way forward, and our president deserves a lot of credit for bringing the nation's attention to the fact that America has to be a maritime power to be great again.

00:20:36.440 And we have neglected that for 40 years because of all these wars in the Middle East.

00:20:41.600 And so the sooner that we can get out of the Middle East, the better. 1.00

00:20:46.480 Well, let's go back to the wars in the Middle East.

00:20:49.160 In the first days of the 12-day war, in fact, I think it was the first 24 hours, we sent two or three Aegis-class cruisers to the Eastern Med because of the Aegis capabilities on air defense.

00:21:02.440 I'm hearing now from sources I've got over there and people I've talked to that the Gulf Emirates, the Saudis, are quite concerned.

00:21:09.660 This issue of ballistic missiles is not intercontinental ballistic missiles.

00:21:13.400 They saw the pounding that Israel was taking during the 12-day war.

00:21:16.780 And now it's been admitted by the Israeli media that they were kind of suppressed and talking about how pounded Tel Aviv was getting, that David's sling and the dome don't catch anything, particularly when you have a high velocity of missiles coming.

00:21:32.760 So we sent dads, we sent patriots.

00:21:35.120 But it's not simply the Israelis are quite concerned.

00:21:37.460 Even Rabbi Walicki said today, hey, say, look, we're going to need, if we go it alone, we're going to need you guys for defense.

00:21:45.600 Qatar, UAE, the Saudis are quite concerned about the Persian Gulf and about the great assets they have, particularly Qatar, the natural gas field, actually being unable to defend it.

00:21:57.840 So the first days of this war, because the Iranians, say what you want. 1.00

00:22:03.280 If this gets to a shooting war, they're going to shoot back, Captain, your thoughts?

00:22:08.320 Well, there's no question they will.

00:22:10.100 But remember, they did go through a 12-day war and they took extensive damage there.

00:22:15.220 That's one fact.

00:22:16.060 The other fact is all the stuff that I just mentioned, all the array of forces that are coming into theater.

00:22:21.420 That's why those extra tactical jet aircraft are being brought in, the F-35s, the Strike Eagles, the FNA-18s.

00:22:30.100 All of those aircraft are brought in for exactly what you're talking about, which is to essentially suppress, typically to suppress enemy air defenses.

00:22:39.740 We can extend that to, say, suppression of enemy ballistic missiles.

00:22:44.080 And so the idea that they're going to just be able to launch off arrays and, you know, volume, volley after volley of ballistic missiles, I don't believe that will be achievable because we're there in such strength that anybody that comes out of the hole is going to be observed and going to be struck.

00:23:03.200 And if they do get off a wave or the first salvo, there's enough defensive capability there that they'll be able to be quite successful for the first parts of this.

00:23:14.380 So I don't downplay those people's concern.

00:23:18.540 I'd be concerned if I lived in those regions, no question.

00:23:21.400 We should have the same concerns for Taiwan and our allies in Japan and South Korea and the Philippines as well, because they're living under the same threat from the People's Republic of China. 0.65

00:23:31.100 But I think in this case, by moving these carriers in and these other aircraft, the ISR and the command and control, it's going to be very, very difficult for Iran, who's already been crippled in that 12-day war, to be able to get out and successfully launch a ballistic missile attack.

00:23:48.400 In fact, just today, there was commercial imagery showing the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group 150 miles off the coast of Oman, in the Gulf of Oman, and it's been out there for a couple of weeks, and there's not been any attacks from the Iranians.

00:24:04.880 So if they've got ballistic missiles and they wanted to get off a cheap shot and hurt the United States of America, I think they would have tried it.

00:24:12.300 And we already know that they've tried to get a drone out there and a drone was shot down.

00:24:15.520 So that's already happened, and I think right now the leverage, it's overmatched, and we're continuing to build the overmatch.

00:24:24.960 And who knows, the USS Bush is finishing up her interdeployment training cycle and is suspected to get her blue water certification here in the next few weeks, which can be accelerated.

00:24:36.900 We may see a third aircraft carrier come out there.

00:24:39.300 So that can't be taken off the table either.

00:24:41.600 Are you concerned is the – when you – President Trump refers to this all the time as a vast armada.

00:24:49.580 Is it concern of yours that if negotiations and or economic warfare – because now you have the Iranians playing around with the Straits of Hormuz, we still have not cut the Chinese off from the oil, which I'm saying absolutely has to happen. 0.97

00:25:01.420 Anybody that does any business with the Ayatollah needs to be cut off by the United States, that we can bring these people to the knees. 0.92

00:25:07.360 Are you concerned at all, as I am, that the building up of these forces just leads decision-makers sometimes to say, hey, we've got everybody over there.

00:25:15.920 We've got to – you know, let's – the party is on, as the British would say, sir.

00:25:20.900 That history has shown that that's been a pattern.

00:25:25.080 However, I think President Trump has also shown that he's somebody that breaks patterns and has the ability to say, okay, I got what I wanted.

00:25:32.640 The Iranian regime has left, and the people of Iran are taking their country back. 1.00

00:25:37.360 If that were to happen, then I could see him making a decision to do that.

00:25:40.820 But I think right now, based on – and I'll just mention this, you know, in October of 1983, you know, a few years after you were out there, the Iranians were responsible for killing 241 Americans in the Beirut – not Kobar Towers, but the Beirut Barracks bombing.

00:26:00.160 And Iranians have been involved with killing Americans, separate from these disputes with individual nations.

00:26:07.420 Just open hatred against America.

00:26:10.680 So we have a scorecard ourselves as Americans, and I know in my time in service, I went – you know, I was focused on the Pacific, but I made deployments out to the Persian Gulf in my career.

00:26:20.700 I spent four months in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1994.

00:26:25.180 So I've been in the region.

00:26:26.460 That region has dominated our country for far too long, and it's been because of the Iranians. 1.00

00:26:31.340 So the president is smarter than I am in terms of these deals.

00:26:35.280 But if we don't get the kind of deal that we need and we back out and we let them continue to murder Americans, I don't see the president doing that.

00:26:43.500 So it's going to have to be something really stupendous for the Iranians, I think, to get out from under this one this time. 1.00

00:26:49.700 We've got to bounce.

00:26:50.940 We'll leave it, and we'll – next time, Jim and I don't totally agree on this, because I was a naval officer in the Pacific Fleet and ended up in the Persian Gulf and North Arabian Sea because of this country and its action.

00:27:01.620 And President Reagan always said the two things he regretted from this term was putting the Marines into the barracks.

00:27:09.500 Remember, we withdrew immediately, and the other one was cutting that terrible amnesty deal.

00:27:13.820 Jim, Captain Fennell, you're one of the smartest guys out there about naval operations.

00:27:18.220 Where do people get your writing, sir?

00:27:19.500 I write on American Greatness, and I just had something published today about don't let the Chinese Navy into the rim of the Pacific exercise that comes up in June of this year.

00:27:30.080 Don't let them back in.

00:27:31.720 Okay, we're going to have you on, obviously, a lot before then, but we've got to make sure President Trump knows.

00:27:35.840 He goes over a state visit to China.

00:27:37.840 I'm sure they're going to ask for that one.

00:27:39.620 Captain Fennell, the winds of war are blowing in the North Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf.

00:27:46.520 Captain Fennell walked us through it.

00:27:47.740 We're going to take a short break.

00:27:49.200 We're going to pivot back here now to talk about one of the central issues of this country, the stolen 2020 election.

00:27:56.440 And has it been sorted out today as we run up to these midterms?

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00:30:15.160 When you get Jim Fennell, Fennell is known as a great briefer.

00:30:19.340 That's how I became – you have to be a great briefer, not just a brilliant guy to be in charge of the senior naval officer for intelligence for the Pacific Fleet.

00:30:30.780 Remember, the 7th Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, 7th and 3rd Fleet, 3rd out of San Diego, 7th out of Pearl, and deployed really into the Western Pacific.

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00:30:44.080 It doesn't come any more serious than that in the defense of Taiwan.

00:30:47.120 And now the last, I don't know, 47 years since I was there as a Pacific Fleet sailor, because we were in the 7th Fleet and deployed over there because we had nothing else.

00:30:56.280 You're getting the equivalent of – that's kind of a mini Nash or Security Council briefing.

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00:33:19.700 I've got a cold open for Harry Halsey and Joe Hoff.

00:33:22.660 They've been on this situation about data and what exactly happened in 2022.

00:33:28.220 And have we got to sort out it?

00:33:29.560 Let me play the cold open.

00:33:30.640 Well, there's two things to look for.

00:33:32.220 One is what happens prior to the election, right?

00:33:34.360 Christy Noem is hinting at it, but you can see, and you've already seen to agree,

00:33:40.060 Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security making plays to, for instance, take a look at state voter rolls,

00:33:44.760 to have people on the ground at voting locations, to watch investigations into fraudulent accusations of fraud.

00:33:53.080 That's the pre-vote element.

00:33:54.860 Then there's the post-vote element, which is, are they going to try to have a federal presence in the counting of the ballots?

00:33:59.820 Are they going to try to seize ballots?

00:34:01.000 Will they do what you saw, Donald Trump, try to do in 2020, which is question the sanctity of the results,

00:34:10.820 mired in litigation, and then have a compliant House speaker say, well, we can't seat these people until we get to the bottom of this.

00:34:16.980 Those are all real, real possibilities.

00:34:19.640 I don't think we should treat them as, you know, impossible hypotheticals because they're openly talking about this stuff

00:34:26.360 and now making moves to actually implement some of these reforms.

00:34:30.180 But I think part of the play here is to just continue to make people uncertain about American elections.

00:34:37.500 And I think he's banking on the idea that simply sowing those seeds of doubt ultimately will benefit him.

00:34:45.960 I believe so.

00:34:46.820 I think they're trying to cast out for the 2026 midterm elections because they know the results are not going to be in their favor.

00:34:52.440 Historically, midterm elections are never good for the sitting president.

00:34:56.860 But I think that if I am reading the tea leaves, it's going to be a massive blue wave.

00:35:00.940 I think that people are upset that Trump has not gotten through or not followed through on any of his campaign promises,

00:35:06.820 whether it be to bring down prices.

00:35:09.280 They're looking at things like the ICE murdering American citizens in the streets.

00:35:13.500 And they're like, this is not what I signed up for.

00:35:15.840 ICE has gone too far.

00:35:17.320 And so he's already trying to cast doubt.

00:35:19.080 We saw him do it in 2020 in the lead up to the election with Joe Biden and him going after mail-in voting and all of these things.

00:35:26.700 And I think, too, now they've seemed to tailor the message to include illegal immigrants.

00:35:30.880 And they're saying that illegals are voting.

00:35:33.100 And, of course, we all want citizens to be the only ones voting in our elections.

00:35:36.640 But that is what is happening.

00:35:38.640 They're acting like this is some widespread issue.

00:35:41.040 In Utah, they did an audit of their registered voters, of over 2 million voters.

00:35:45.260 And they found one illegal immigrant registered.

00:35:48.380 And the person had never even voted.

00:35:50.000 So this is not some widespread issue like they're trying to make it out to be.

00:35:53.500 But they're trying to use that to justify their what I would call voter suppression.

00:35:59.840 And that's where you have Kristi Noem saying that we only want the right people showing up and voting for the right leaders.

00:36:05.760 And it just feeds into this pattern of everything that they're already doing to try to control the upcoming election,

00:36:11.440 whether it be Trump calling for nationalizing elections, seizing the ballots in Georgia, wanting to end mail-in voting.

00:36:18.620 And I think that it follows a pattern that they are definitely looking at future elections, whether it's 2026 or 2028, and trying to manipulate the outcome.

00:36:27.020 Republicans might doubt the election.

00:36:28.540 It's that everybody is doubting the election.

00:36:30.320 That number that I just cited, 60 percent of people don't trust the system.

00:36:34.480 That's bad news.

00:36:37.960 It is, Katie.

00:36:39.020 But that's exactly what the president wants.

00:36:41.960 I mean, let us not forget, in 2021, the president asked the secretary of state in Georgia to find him 11,000 extra votes.

00:36:51.780 On the record, said that, setting the play for this moment.

00:36:55.260 He continues, even to this day, to bemoan the results of the 2020 election, even though he is the sitting president.

00:37:03.940 You know, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

00:37:07.500 And so the Republicans here have a good story.

00:37:10.280 Let's recap just quickly what Secretary Noem said.

00:37:14.180 She said a lot, but these two things struck me.

00:37:16.480 We need to have the right people voting for the right candidates.

00:37:21.040 I mean, if that's not giving the signal that if things don't go the way that they want, meaning no longer should we allow voters to elect the people they want to represent them.

00:37:31.900 We want to let the people who are running select their voters.

00:37:36.520 And so this frenzy.

00:37:37.520 And then my final point, Katie, the stats that you laid out from all kinds of institutes that study this, from more right-leaning ones to more left-leaning ones, have come to the same conclusion.

00:37:49.040 And the Brennan Center's seminal report, the truth about voting fraud, you know, less than 1%.

00:37:55.300 And a lot of the impersonation-type fraud that people think is happening is actually due to some type of clerical error, but it's nonexistent.

00:38:04.500 And the Brennan Center went as far to say that an individual voter has – you have a greater likelihood to be struck by lightning than you do to have people trying to impersonate somebody else when they go to vote.

00:38:19.980 Why is Kristi Noem even talking about this?

00:38:22.680 What purview, Doug, does she have over elections? 1.00

00:38:26.560 Look, I think it's a very fair question.

00:38:28.300 And this is, you know, when we set up the Department of Homeland Security, it was a reaction to 9-11-2001 and really about protecting all of our safety.

00:38:39.340 It wasn't about elections.

00:38:40.300 And I don't think this is proper for the secretary to have this role.

00:38:45.080 I think that that Wall Street Journal piece – remember, there was a Wall Street Journal piece out on Friday, which had – was a very dishy piece with a lot of –

00:38:53.800 Josh Dossi piece, we had him on you.

00:38:55.420 Right.

00:38:55.860 And it talked about a lot –

00:38:57.460 Her missing blanket.

00:38:57.940 The missing blanket, the fired pilot, all sorts of dysfunction and a lot of problems within the agency.

00:39:05.940 It also talked about how when, after the killing, the second killing of a United States citizen, she made – she went to the Oval Office to have a visit with Trump, a two-hour visit.

00:39:19.800 And she's trying – remember, you see members of this administration do things like this when they wanted to win back favor with Trump.

00:39:27.460 To get on his good side.

00:39:28.240 Right.

00:39:28.420 Because we saw –

00:39:28.940 She knows that this is an issue that he cares about and she wants to get out in front of it, even though she has no authority over it.

00:39:33.660 Well, we saw Tulsi Gabbard do that recently and she has no authority over that. 0.93

00:39:38.760 OK.

00:39:39.060 Let me – I was going to get Joe Hoffman in here first, but I've got to go to Harry.

00:39:41.880 This cold open was so great.

00:39:44.220 Harry Housley, I want to address that issue straight on.

00:39:46.240 Before we talk about your dad or anything like that, why is – they're going nuts that Kristi Noem as DHS is involved.

00:39:54.400 They're actually going more nuts on Tulsi Gabbard.

00:39:56.800 So please answer the question, sir, what right does Tulsi Gabbard have as the head of – director of national intelligence to be directly engaged in this topic in the state of Georgia and quite soon in the state of Arizona?

00:40:11.800 Well, her job quite simply is to defend the United States of America and we use our intelligence resources from satellite to human to monitor and try to understand what's happening.

00:40:25.300 There's ample evidence in 2020 and 2022 of direct connections, if not penetration, by foreign entities.

00:40:36.520 We actually have seen a number of things that would suggest foreign interference, not the least of which were direct connections during elections to our systems.

00:40:51.640 The use of systems that were built in China rather than in the United States is required by the Code of Federal Regulations unless there's a Cepheus review.

00:41:02.380 The fact is that Obama himself declared elections to be a critical national infrastructure, which brings in the entire defense establishment with regard to making sure our elections are safe from foreign penetration.

00:41:20.340 So when they go into Fulton County, you have a situation where there's evidence of electronic fraud that was undercovered by Garland Favarito's people and some of the analysts that he has working for them.

00:41:37.700 I had the opportunity to help Garland map some of that.

00:41:41.560 Arizona has some of the same indications.

00:41:44.000 We can think of things like the unexplained pallets of ballots being delivered to Sky Harbor Airport in Arizona, the Bethpage New York matter that never gets investigated because of Justice Department at the time's interference at the top of both the FBI and the DOJ.

00:42:01.700 And then you have the conic arrest, which was never fully investigated and suppressed by the Biden administration.

00:42:09.860 But there are many other instances of this, too, individual tracers that have been put out on the connections.

00:42:18.180 Hang on. I got to go to break. I just want to make sure.

00:42:20.240 Sure.

00:42:20.320 Because you're an intelligence analyst, there's no doubt in your mind, as you look at the information you've been looking at and others, that both Director of National Intelligence and the Head of Department of Homeland Security, Census Curriculum Infrastructure, have a requirement and a duty to be engaged in this, correct?

00:42:40.100 Absolutely, including the FBI counterintel people.

00:42:44.840 Harry, just hang on for one second. We're going to take a short commercial break. I'm going to get Joe Hoff.

00:42:49.640 If you see the meltdown, the cable news of CNN and particularly MSNBC or MSWOW, SHAMWOW, whatever it is, they are obsessed with this topic.

00:42:59.920 Why are they obsessed with this topic? They understand to get to the bottom of 2020 is to reveal all.

00:43:08.000 And they're sitting there going, oh, this is the steal of the 2026 election.

00:43:11.280 This is to get to the bottom of the stolen election in 2020.

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00:46:03.180 Okay, just some logistics.

00:46:05.580 Following us is going to be War Room Texas.

00:46:08.680 You're not going to want to miss this explosive court ruling today on a capital crime that jury,

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00:46:18.660 Ben Burkham is going to join us.

00:46:20.020 Peter McIlvenna, also from England.

00:46:22.400 We're going to talk about a lot.

00:46:23.740 We're going to break down the Department of Agriculture Commission's debate, particularly

00:46:28.520 on illegal immigration, labor, and halal food.

00:46:32.100 You're going to want to stick around and hear all that.

00:46:34.220 It was an intense debate that we covered live.

00:46:36.860 The Attorney General's debate for the state of Texas will follow.

00:46:41.500 War Room Texas will cover that in its entirety.

00:46:43.580 Also, just logistically, as I said, Ben Harnwell and Dr. Thayer are en route to a big conference.

00:46:50.500 We're going to have them live Thursday and Friday.

00:46:52.820 But the entire week at 6 o'clock this week, we won't be doing Ben's show because Ben is out of the country.

00:46:57.880 We'll be doing War Room Texas.

00:46:59.640 And like I said, I think we've got Matt Boyle tomorrow from Greece.

00:47:02.100 Then we've got Thayer and Harnwell on Thursday and Friday from overseas at a big strategic defense conference that they're at.

00:47:09.760 Joe Hoft, you and your brother Jim and the Gateway Pundit crew, they've tried to bankrupt you, vilify you.

00:47:17.820 You have covered this as well as or better than any other media group out there.

00:47:23.580 You've dug in hard.

00:47:24.720 And they're going to come again because 2016, 2026, folks, it's going to be a battle of the titans here.

00:47:31.140 Your thoughts as you see that cold open in the intensity and what Jim Hoft and Joe Hoft and the Gateway Pundit crowd had to go through.

00:47:38.960 Yeah, thanks, Steve.

00:47:40.360 You're absolutely right.

00:47:41.300 We're already seeing it now.

00:47:42.580 I had Google, for example, ads on my website, JoeHoff.com, and was notified a week ago,

00:47:47.740 no, we can't continue advertising with you because your articles are dangerous.

00:47:54.920 And one of the articles I put up was basically a copy almost of one of President Trump's team's messages about how great the economy is going or something like that.

00:48:07.180 That was one of their examples of how my reporting was dangerous.

00:48:11.160 So it doesn't matter what you write or what you say to these guys.

00:48:14.520 They just want to shut you down if you're really effective.

00:48:16.760 And that's the thing that these guys are upset about, too, Steve.

00:48:20.260 I look at that.

00:48:21.300 It's really hard to stomach that cold open that you had there for myself because I just feel like it's so full of errors, omissions, and falsities.

00:48:30.520 It's just unbelievable.

00:48:32.320 But we learned a year after the 2020 election that, according to Rasmussen, 30 or 62 percent of Americans believe the election was stolen.

00:48:43.360 And so they weren't getting it from these guys anymore.

00:48:45.640 We see this media stuff, and it makes your stomach turn.

00:48:48.500 But the great news is people aren't getting their information from them anymore, and that's what's frustrating them the most.

00:48:54.940 They're getting it from Gateway Pundit and The War Room and other great sites out there on the right.

00:49:00.940 And that's why the American people are informed and people, I think, inherently want the truth.

00:49:04.860 So, yeah, we've uncovered so much in 2020.

00:49:08.880 As you know, I mentioned this yesterday on the show.

00:49:10.920 I wrote three books about it.

00:49:12.700 And my background, as I mentioned as well, is in corporate.

00:49:16.720 I spent decades in the corporate finance and auditing functions.

00:49:20.440 Landed in Hong Kong for almost a decade overseeing a multibillion-dollar block of business.

00:49:26.220 The auditing function there, I'd done the financial reporting function on a multibillion-dollar block of business.

00:49:32.500 I know how things work in the corporate world.

00:49:35.440 And so when I came back and I started seeing this 2020 election, these results, we were dropping bombs.

00:49:41.260 You were bringing us on about every day to just say, man, this stuff is just unbelievable.

00:49:46.720 And the bombs have paid out.

00:49:48.500 Harry, we've just got a couple of minutes.

00:49:50.440 You're going to be releasing big announcements every day.

00:49:53.080 What do you got for us today?

00:49:54.800 Because the one the other day, we're still resonating.

00:49:57.060 People are talking about Colorado.

00:49:58.660 They want to march in that prison and free Tina Peters.

00:50:01.280 What do you got for us today that you found out?

00:50:03.160 Another bomb.

00:50:05.140 So the one we released today was the vote-to-voter discrepancy report over the last three elections.

00:50:11.900 The fact is that the election officials are not bothering to reconcile their books at all.

00:50:17.220 We see in 2022 over 2 million.

00:50:22.020 We're right at 2 million vote.

00:50:25.140 You know, the difference between the number of voters counted and the number of ballots counted is around 2 million.

00:50:31.860 But what people don't know is in 2024, they managed to inject 3.5 million ballots into the system.

00:50:40.500 There's two reflections to this.

00:50:42.880 Some people will say it's just administrative procedure.

00:50:45.140 And there are some aspects of that.

00:50:47.540 But the fact is that they're certifying the elections without knowing how many people voted.

00:50:52.400 So if that isn't preposterous, I don't know what is.

00:50:56.120 But, you know, imagine, you know, allowing somebody to vote.

00:50:59.000 But we have – we only got a minute.

00:51:00.440 I just want to go through.

00:51:01.080 We have all this chain of command of people, as Jim says.

00:51:05.220 Maybe they're not corporate auditors, but you do have a structure that's supposed to certify these at every level.

00:51:10.280 I think why people are pulling their hair out, they're saying, how are these elections at State, Secretary of State, they come up and they have these big announcements.

00:51:17.140 The election has been certified, and we find out from you that it's not certifiable.

00:51:21.260 So the fact is that we've now got 50 elected officials and sometimes appointed officials across the country that can declare everything by the wave of their hands to be okay.

00:51:34.820 So certification has become a nuance, I suppose, in the information warfare space.

00:51:43.440 But the fact of the matter is certification is supposed to mean something's accurate and compliant.

00:51:48.920 Most states have a law that say the number of voters has to reconcile to the number of votes counted.

00:51:54.060 And the governors, the secretaries of state, the state board of elections are ignoring it, threatening to put people like Tina Peters in jail because they are concerned about the facts.

00:52:05.560 That's where they got her in prison. 1.00

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00:52:32.160 Okay, I want everybody to jump onto that site now.

00:52:35.160 Joe Hoft, where do they go?

00:52:37.160 Your site and your social media, brother?

00:52:40.160 Yeah, joehoft.com is where you can get the information.

00:52:42.740 A lot of that, we're moving on to the Gateway Pundit, some of these great articles.

00:52:45.500 And then also, you can follow me pretty much at joehoft.com, but I'm on social media as well.

00:52:52.380 The unanswered question is, which Hoft brother is handsomer and which Hoft brother is smarter?

00:52:59.420 The twins.

00:53:00.440 Thank you, brother.

00:53:02.140 Jim and Joe, the Gateway Pundit.

00:53:05.240 War Room, Texas is upon us.

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Bannon's War Room - February 18, 2026

Episode 5150： Middle East Edges Closer To War; Counting The People Voting Is Just As Important As Hand Counting Ballots

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