After a day of diplomacy, Iran and the United States appear to have made progress in their negotiations on Iran's nuclear program. Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, responded to the news of the progress, saying, "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we are going to medieval on these people." Meanwhile, the Texas AG debates his opponent for the AG post.
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00:04:32.340Captain, so there's been – you know, we had Rabbi Walecki on this morning, had some technical issues, couldn't get you on.
00:04:37.860But I think it's better, actually, this afternoon.
00:04:39.640We now know kind of a framework to moving forward.
00:04:42.840Of course, as the rabbi says, and people that know the Iranians or the Persians, you know, the Persians are so bureaucratic.
00:04:48.400They negotiate just to get to the next meeting, and they consider that a big win.
00:04:51.580And I want to really, though, focus on the big stick.
00:04:55.780President Trump has a negotiating style, and part of that is he likes to have leverage on his side, not financial leverage, but I call operational leverage.
00:05:04.520Having been, as the audience knows, a young naval officer in the first – our first endeavor off the coast of Iran back in 1979 and 1980 with the first of the – at Camel Station and Gonzo Station, as you'll remember, with two carrier battle groups there.
00:05:21.460I have never seen it – if we leave out actual foot soldiers from the first Gulf War on the Iraq invasion of Kuwait, I think this is the biggest collection of American hardware put together since – I don't know, because it's bigger and more lethal than what we had in 1980 than at any time maybe since WW2.
00:05:44.860Was anything in Vietnam or Korea anything close to this, sir?
00:05:47.960Well, Steve, I think it's not quite as big as Desert Storm had five aircraft carriers, but again, that was a six-month buildup.
00:05:57.660So right now, what we have with President Trump and the Secretary of War put together is two carrier strike groups are going to be in the region.
00:06:07.380One is already there, the USS Abraham Lincoln with its Air Wing 9, and then the USS Gerald R. Ford, as people know,
00:06:17.340have been ordered across the Atlantic, so it's in a transatlantic transit right now.
00:06:24.540In addition to that, over the last couple of weeks, you've seen over 250 flights from American aircraft into the region in terms of for deploying aircraft.
00:06:36.600So, for instance, from Lake and Heath in England, we have 54 F-35s, 36 F-15s.
00:06:45.020In Jordan, we have 12 F-16s, 12 F-35s, six prowlers or 18 growlers.
00:06:55.240I'm a little prowler guy, so that confused me there.
00:07:09.840And there's a whole load of tankers, airborne early warning and command and control aircraft, ISR, unmanned, manned vehicles.
00:07:21.160And in the naval arena, like I said, two carrier strike groups that comprise, you know, with what's afloat and in the theaters over probably 1,000 T-LAMs that are now in the region that are going to be able to be brought to bear if the president decides to do so.
00:07:38.38015 destroyers, guided missile cruiser destroyers and cruisers, at least four attack, nuclear attack submarines that carry T-LAMs.
00:07:47.260The second fleet command ship, USS Mount Whitney, is in the region to there to coordinate all the naval fires and work that with CENTCOM and EUCOM.
00:07:57.620We also have two, this is worth noting, two expeditionary mobile bases, the ESBs.
00:08:04.060And these allow for special operations forces to operate like we saw with the Operation Absolute Resolve off of Venezuela.
00:08:13.840So there's also A-10 warthogs that are in theater.
00:08:17.880The 10th Mountain Division from the U.S. Army has had a rotation.
00:08:21.080So they're in the CENTCOM AOR right now.
00:08:24.520And then there's a number of resupply ships, oilers, refuelers and resupply ships, because there's literally tens of thousands of sailors and Marines afloat that will need to be resupplied at sea.
00:08:36.320And then across all the bases that we have in the region, there's nine countries that have got American forces that have some of these platforms, whether they're aircraft or ships or ISR platforms.
00:08:49.220It's Spain, Italy, Greece, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Croatia and Djibouti and the U.K.
00:08:57.300So there's a lot of force that's coming in, you know, comparing to other times.
00:09:02.660I'm not sure that's really helpful right now, though.
00:09:04.840What I would say is, in my professional estimate, is that the pieces are being moved in to strike Iran.
00:09:11.640Now, diplomacy and negotiations are another thing.
00:09:14.980But sending the USS Gerald R. Ford, who's been on deployment since last June, is not a kind of a bluff thing.
00:09:23.980You have sailors that have been at sea for almost 10 months.
00:09:27.600If they stay out there through the middle of April, through tax day, they'll have been at sea for 294 days.
00:09:33.340And if they stay into May, they'll have been out there for, you know, almost a year.
00:09:37.680So there are this is a really serious movement by the president, the secretary of war.
00:09:46.840I want to walk people through the Navy and how they think about deployments to have a carrier.
00:09:51.580They're obviously the largest warship we have.
00:09:54.620But to keep a carrier underway essentially for a year or looks like longer if you're going to do this.
00:10:01.280How big a deal is that is the way the Navy thinks about its assets?
00:10:05.780Well, in my 29 years in the Navy, I deployed a lot of aircraft carriers, especially in the first 20 years.
00:10:10.580And for the most part, I was in the service from 86 until 2014, 2015.
00:10:15.440And in most of that period, they were six month deployments.
00:10:19.120But over the last two decades, the deployment lengths have exceeded up to nine to 10 months due to the lack of maintenance and resources for our Navy,
00:10:27.900which is a whole nother topic that we could that we have talked about and we could talk about.
00:10:32.020But the fact is something this long, it could exceed even the nine or 10.
00:10:36.040It's going to exceed the 10 month duration.
00:10:38.500So this is something that we haven't seen since the Vietnam War when there used to be sometimes yearlong deployments out to the Gulf of Tonkin, Yankee Station.
00:10:53.480This is not just some kind of slight, in my opinion.
00:10:56.680I think something seriously is coming.
00:10:58.340And when you combine these conventional forces that are going to be able to bring, I saw some estimates saying at least 800 tactical sorties a day, you know, combat air sorties that could be delivered against Iran.
00:11:10.380And combine that with our global reach capabilities, with the U.S. Air Force bombing capabilities, like we saw last June in Operation Midnight Hammer, to go after these key nuclear, whatever remains, if there's anything that remains,
00:11:25.820anything in the nuclear arena that's been reconstituted or removed in, or anything that China or Russia had moved in, we're going to have absolute, I mean, just we saw an absolute resolve in Venezuela.
00:11:40.380We saw an absolute exquisite intelligence.
00:11:42.340And so I would expect that the intelligence community that helped find and do the Operation Midnight Hammer are the same people that have been watching all the buildup in the post, you know, Midnight Hammer operations, watching everything that's going on in Iran.
00:11:58.480So we're going to have a good beat on where all their Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps forces are, which is their kind of their religious military-infused army and forces, plus the regular mainline forces of their military, as well as the leadership.
00:12:20.840There's been a lot of feints and moves over the last few weeks, a month, and people have been moving around in Iran based on different things that the president has said.
00:12:30.120So intelligence was gathered in this last month to know where these people are.
00:12:34.460So I think right now, if I was Iranian, I'd either come to the table and make a, you know, I'd open my card and say, I want a deal.
00:12:42.060Otherwise, I think hell is coming to earth in Iran.
00:12:47.120One of the big holdups, Reuters had an exclusive over the President's Day weekend that said that there is a plan, if he decides to use it, that would be a multi-week bombing campaign.
00:13:01.680This would not be like the 12-day war, one and done.
00:13:05.860One of the issues here is President Trump, I think, has asked many times, what's the target set?
00:13:11.400If I go do this, I want to take down the governing infrastructure and let the Persian people deal with it.
00:13:17.240We got about a minute here, and I'm going to hold you, obviously, the break.
00:13:20.980Isn't that the big hangup, the target set of action, how long it will take?
00:13:24.940I can't imagine the president's going to want to go, will want to go two, three, four weeks of bombing Tehran, sir.
00:13:32.820Nobody wants a war to go that long to induce risk in some sense.
00:13:40.820But you plan for a campaign, and you have a systematic target list.
00:13:47.380And the target list will go from civilian or religious government leaders, secret police, which is a big factor that's really oppressing the people of Iran, and then the IRGC, and then the regular Iranian military.
00:14:00.960So those are four big categories that they're going to have to go after.
00:14:04.620And when you go after the leadership and you take out leadership, both of the national government and the military, then the other pieces are going to be much easier to go after.
00:14:19.340We're going to hold you through the break, talk about the defensive capabilities of why some of the people in the region are quite worried about these ballistic missiles.
00:14:26.100All Family Pharmacy, it's a revolutionary idea, and it is getting traction.
00:14:31.840They basically are breaking the back of the pharmaceutical industry, the big drug distributors, the drugstores.
00:16:39.320And you were basically, you got in some issues there during the Obama administration because you warned, you came forward, I think it was at the Naval Academy, if I remember.
00:16:48.580You came forward and warned the American people that folks who are asleep at the switch on the rise of the Chinese Communist Party's People's Liberation Navy, particularly its ability to project power in places like the South China Sea, the First Island Chain, Straits of Taiwan, Taiwan, all the way out to American holdings in the Western Pacific?
00:17:08.700Yeah, it was a speech at the U.S. Naval Institute and Armed Forces Communication Electronic Association conference called WEST in San Diego in 2013 to 2014.
00:17:22.220And that didn't go over too well because it was kind of the first time anybody had spoken out against the Chinese being a threat.
00:17:40.480They've done everything that we said they were going to do in terms of their buildup of their military, and we're watching them use aggressive tactics against our allies, whether it's in the South China Sea against the Philippines, against our allies in Japan and the East China Sea as we see aggressive action there.
00:17:56.680And then they've expanded their naval operations beyond the First and Second Island Chain into the Indian Ocean, into the Mediterranean, into the Baltic.
00:18:04.280They were held up a bit with COVID, but they're back and they're raging again, and their military growth is exponential.
00:18:11.900They're building five to nine times as many ships as we do.
00:18:15.960They have the industrial capacity to do that, and they have a very, very capable anti-ship cruise missile fleet,
00:18:22.500fleet with an anti-ballistic missile fleet in terms of supersonic and hypersonic weapons that are designed specifically to sink the U.S. Pacific fleet in the Western Pacific and essentially do what the Japanese tried to do to us on 7 December 1941 in Pearl Harbor.
00:18:41.080I'm not saying you're a senior advisor to the President or Secretary of the Navy, but if you look at the President talking about the fleet he wants to build, if you look at his, what he's doing for what I call hemispheric defense,
00:18:53.320which is really naval-centric all the way from the Arctic to the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap, Greenland, the Gulf of America, the Caribbean, all of it.
00:19:02.980You believe, I think, very strongly that President Trump's probably the greatest proponent of sea power, maybe even more than President Reagan, who was great, but I mean at the level of FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, sir?
00:19:19.460Well, he has definitely set the agenda in this first year with creating the Office of Shipbuilding in the White House.
00:19:26.860And then what we just saw released here with the National Security Strategy, National Defense Strategy in December and January here.
00:19:34.580And then just in this last weekend, there was also released yesterday the American Maritime Action Plan, which was what the Office of Shipbuilding was tasked to do.
00:19:44.460And they've come out with a plan with four pillars to rebuild America's shipbuilding industry and our merchant marine fleet and our naval fleet.
00:19:52.540And so there's an actual plan that's been put together by really smart people, and they're not just putting pie in the sky, but they're applying,
00:20:00.360they know where the resources are and what resources need to be acquired and how to re-transform the way we build ships from, you know, high-intensity human involvement to more AI and robotics.
00:20:13.380There's a lot of work left to be done, so I'll withhold judgment until I actually see the 600 ships that we say that we want to have both manned and unmanned.
00:20:21.700It's actually over 500, but it's a great plan.
00:20:24.720It's a good way forward, and our president deserves a lot of credit for bringing the nation's attention to the fact that America has to be a maritime power to be great again.
00:20:36.440And we have neglected that for 40 years because of all these wars in the Middle East.
00:20:41.600And so the sooner that we can get out of the Middle East, the better.
00:20:46.480Well, let's go back to the wars in the Middle East.
00:20:49.160In the first days of the 12-day war, in fact, I think it was the first 24 hours, we sent two or three Aegis-class cruisers to the Eastern Med because of the Aegis capabilities on air defense.
00:21:02.440I'm hearing now from sources I've got over there and people I've talked to that the Gulf Emirates, the Saudis, are quite concerned.
00:21:09.660This issue of ballistic missiles is not intercontinental ballistic missiles.
00:21:13.400They saw the pounding that Israel was taking during the 12-day war.
00:21:16.780And now it's been admitted by the Israeli media that they were kind of suppressed and talking about how pounded Tel Aviv was getting, that David's sling and the dome don't catch anything, particularly when you have a high velocity of missiles coming.
00:21:35.120But it's not simply the Israelis are quite concerned.
00:21:37.460Even Rabbi Walicki said today, hey, say, look, we're going to need, if we go it alone, we're going to need you guys for defense.
00:21:45.600Qatar, UAE, the Saudis are quite concerned about the Persian Gulf and about the great assets they have, particularly Qatar, the natural gas field, actually being unable to defend it.
00:21:57.840So the first days of this war, because the Iranians, say what you want.
00:22:03.280If this gets to a shooting war, they're going to shoot back, Captain, your thoughts?
00:22:16.060The other fact is all the stuff that I just mentioned, all the array of forces that are coming into theater.
00:22:21.420That's why those extra tactical jet aircraft are being brought in, the F-35s, the Strike Eagles, the FNA-18s.
00:22:30.100All of those aircraft are brought in for exactly what you're talking about, which is to essentially suppress, typically to suppress enemy air defenses.
00:22:39.740We can extend that to, say, suppression of enemy ballistic missiles.
00:22:44.080And so the idea that they're going to just be able to launch off arrays and, you know, volume, volley after volley of ballistic missiles, I don't believe that will be achievable because we're there in such strength that anybody that comes out of the hole is going to be observed and going to be struck.
00:23:03.200And if they do get off a wave or the first salvo, there's enough defensive capability there that they'll be able to be quite successful for the first parts of this.
00:23:14.380So I don't downplay those people's concern.
00:23:18.540I'd be concerned if I lived in those regions, no question.
00:23:21.400We should have the same concerns for Taiwan and our allies in Japan and South Korea and the Philippines as well, because they're living under the same threat from the People's Republic of China.
00:23:31.100But I think in this case, by moving these carriers in and these other aircraft, the ISR and the command and control, it's going to be very, very difficult for Iran, who's already been crippled in that 12-day war, to be able to get out and successfully launch a ballistic missile attack.
00:23:48.400In fact, just today, there was commercial imagery showing the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group 150 miles off the coast of Oman, in the Gulf of Oman, and it's been out there for a couple of weeks, and there's not been any attacks from the Iranians.
00:24:04.880So if they've got ballistic missiles and they wanted to get off a cheap shot and hurt the United States of America, I think they would have tried it.
00:24:12.300And we already know that they've tried to get a drone out there and a drone was shot down.
00:24:15.520So that's already happened, and I think right now the leverage, it's overmatched, and we're continuing to build the overmatch.
00:24:24.960And who knows, the USS Bush is finishing up her interdeployment training cycle and is suspected to get her blue water certification here in the next few weeks, which can be accelerated.
00:24:36.900We may see a third aircraft carrier come out there.
00:24:39.300So that can't be taken off the table either.
00:24:41.600Are you concerned is the – when you – President Trump refers to this all the time as a vast armada.
00:24:49.580Is it concern of yours that if negotiations and or economic warfare – because now you have the Iranians playing around with the Straits of Hormuz, we still have not cut the Chinese off from the oil, which I'm saying absolutely has to happen.
00:25:01.420Anybody that does any business with the Ayatollah needs to be cut off by the United States, that we can bring these people to the knees.
00:25:07.360Are you concerned at all, as I am, that the building up of these forces just leads decision-makers sometimes to say, hey, we've got everybody over there.
00:25:15.920We've got to – you know, let's – the party is on, as the British would say, sir.
00:25:20.900That history has shown that that's been a pattern.
00:25:25.080However, I think President Trump has also shown that he's somebody that breaks patterns and has the ability to say, okay, I got what I wanted.
00:25:32.640The Iranian regime has left, and the people of Iran are taking their country back.
00:25:37.360If that were to happen, then I could see him making a decision to do that.
00:25:40.820But I think right now, based on – and I'll just mention this, you know, in October of 1983, you know, a few years after you were out there, the Iranians were responsible for killing 241 Americans in the Beirut – not Kobar Towers, but the Beirut Barracks bombing.
00:26:00.160And Iranians have been involved with killing Americans, separate from these disputes with individual nations.
00:26:10.680So we have a scorecard ourselves as Americans, and I know in my time in service, I went – you know, I was focused on the Pacific, but I made deployments out to the Persian Gulf in my career.
00:26:20.700I spent four months in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1994.
00:26:26.460That region has dominated our country for far too long, and it's been because of the Iranians.
00:26:31.340So the president is smarter than I am in terms of these deals.
00:26:35.280But if we don't get the kind of deal that we need and we back out and we let them continue to murder Americans, I don't see the president doing that.
00:26:43.500So it's going to have to be something really stupendous for the Iranians, I think, to get out from under this one this time.
00:26:50.940We'll leave it, and we'll – next time, Jim and I don't totally agree on this, because I was a naval officer in the Pacific Fleet and ended up in the Persian Gulf and North Arabian Sea because of this country and its action.
00:27:01.620And President Reagan always said the two things he regretted from this term was putting the Marines into the barracks.
00:27:09.500Remember, we withdrew immediately, and the other one was cutting that terrible amnesty deal.
00:27:13.820Jim, Captain Fennell, you're one of the smartest guys out there about naval operations.
00:27:18.220Where do people get your writing, sir?
00:27:19.500I write on American Greatness, and I just had something published today about don't let the Chinese Navy into the rim of the Pacific exercise that comes up in June of this year.
00:30:15.160When you get Jim Fennell, Fennell is known as a great briefer.
00:30:19.340That's how I became – you have to be a great briefer, not just a brilliant guy to be in charge of the senior naval officer for intelligence for the Pacific Fleet.
00:30:30.780Remember, the 7th Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, 7th and 3rd Fleet, 3rd out of San Diego, 7th out of Pearl, and deployed really into the Western Pacific.
00:30:40.060Those are the fleets that won the Second World War in the Pacific.
00:30:44.080It doesn't come any more serious than that in the defense of Taiwan.
00:30:47.120And now the last, I don't know, 47 years since I was there as a Pacific Fleet sailor, because we were in the 7th Fleet and deployed over there because we had nothing else.
00:30:56.280You're getting the equivalent of – that's kind of a mini Nash or Security Council briefing.
00:33:02.140You get 14 free days of the $1 million triple lock protection.
00:33:06.260Talk to Natalie Dominguez and the team.
00:33:07.620Don't get into a situation where 90% of your net worth, which is the average of folks that have their homes, at 90% of your net worth, your whole retirement is there.
00:35:50.000So this is not some widespread issue like they're trying to make it out to be.
00:35:53.500But they're trying to use that to justify their what I would call voter suppression.
00:35:59.840And that's where you have Kristi Noem saying that we only want the right people showing up and voting for the right leaders.
00:36:05.760And it just feeds into this pattern of everything that they're already doing to try to control the upcoming election,
00:36:11.440whether it be Trump calling for nationalizing elections, seizing the ballots in Georgia, wanting to end mail-in voting.
00:36:18.620And I think that it follows a pattern that they are definitely looking at future elections, whether it's 2026 or 2028, and trying to manipulate the outcome.
00:36:39.020But that's exactly what the president wants.
00:36:41.960I mean, let us not forget, in 2021, the president asked the secretary of state in Georgia to find him 11,000 extra votes.
00:36:51.780On the record, said that, setting the play for this moment.
00:36:55.260He continues, even to this day, to bemoan the results of the 2020 election, even though he is the sitting president.
00:37:03.940You know, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
00:37:07.500And so the Republicans here have a good story.
00:37:10.280Let's recap just quickly what Secretary Noem said.
00:37:14.180She said a lot, but these two things struck me.
00:37:16.480We need to have the right people voting for the right candidates.
00:37:21.040I mean, if that's not giving the signal that if things don't go the way that they want, meaning no longer should we allow voters to elect the people they want to represent them.
00:37:31.900We want to let the people who are running select their voters.
00:37:37.520And then my final point, Katie, the stats that you laid out from all kinds of institutes that study this, from more right-leaning ones to more left-leaning ones, have come to the same conclusion.
00:37:49.040And the Brennan Center's seminal report, the truth about voting fraud, you know, less than 1%.
00:37:55.300And a lot of the impersonation-type fraud that people think is happening is actually due to some type of clerical error, but it's nonexistent.
00:38:04.500And the Brennan Center went as far to say that an individual voter has – you have a greater likelihood to be struck by lightning than you do to have people trying to impersonate somebody else when they go to vote.
00:38:19.980Why is Kristi Noem even talking about this?
00:38:22.680What purview, Doug, does she have over elections?
00:38:26.560Look, I think it's a very fair question.
00:38:28.300And this is, you know, when we set up the Department of Homeland Security, it was a reaction to 9-11-2001 and really about protecting all of our safety.
00:38:40.300And I don't think this is proper for the secretary to have this role.
00:38:45.080I think that that Wall Street Journal piece – remember, there was a Wall Street Journal piece out on Friday, which had – was a very dishy piece with a lot of –
00:38:57.940The missing blanket, the fired pilot, all sorts of dysfunction and a lot of problems within the agency.
00:39:05.940It also talked about how when, after the killing, the second killing of a United States citizen, she made – she went to the Oval Office to have a visit with Trump, a two-hour visit.
00:39:19.800And she's trying – remember, you see members of this administration do things like this when they wanted to win back favor with Trump.
00:39:44.220Harry Housley, I want to address that issue straight on.
00:39:46.240Before we talk about your dad or anything like that, why is – they're going nuts that Kristi Noem as DHS is involved.
00:39:54.400They're actually going more nuts on Tulsi Gabbard.
00:39:56.800So please answer the question, sir, what right does Tulsi Gabbard have as the head of – director of national intelligence to be directly engaged in this topic in the state of Georgia and quite soon in the state of Arizona?
00:40:11.800Well, her job quite simply is to defend the United States of America and we use our intelligence resources from satellite to human to monitor and try to understand what's happening.
00:40:25.300There's ample evidence in 2020 and 2022 of direct connections, if not penetration, by foreign entities.
00:40:36.520We actually have seen a number of things that would suggest foreign interference, not the least of which were direct connections during elections to our systems.
00:40:51.640The use of systems that were built in China rather than in the United States is required by the Code of Federal Regulations unless there's a Cepheus review.
00:41:02.380The fact is that Obama himself declared elections to be a critical national infrastructure, which brings in the entire defense establishment with regard to making sure our elections are safe from foreign penetration.
00:41:20.340So when they go into Fulton County, you have a situation where there's evidence of electronic fraud that was undercovered by Garland Favarito's people and some of the analysts that he has working for them.
00:41:37.700I had the opportunity to help Garland map some of that.
00:41:41.560Arizona has some of the same indications.
00:41:44.000We can think of things like the unexplained pallets of ballots being delivered to Sky Harbor Airport in Arizona, the Bethpage New York matter that never gets investigated because of Justice Department at the time's interference at the top of both the FBI and the DOJ.
00:42:01.700And then you have the conic arrest, which was never fully investigated and suppressed by the Biden administration.
00:42:09.860But there are many other instances of this, too, individual tracers that have been put out on the connections.
00:42:18.180Hang on. I got to go to break. I just want to make sure.
00:42:20.320Because you're an intelligence analyst, there's no doubt in your mind, as you look at the information you've been looking at and others, that both Director of National Intelligence and the Head of Department of Homeland Security, Census Curriculum Infrastructure, have a requirement and a duty to be engaged in this, correct?
00:42:40.100Absolutely, including the FBI counterintel people.
00:42:44.840Harry, just hang on for one second. We're going to take a short commercial break. I'm going to get Joe Hoff.
00:42:49.640If you see the meltdown, the cable news of CNN and particularly MSNBC or MSWOW, SHAMWOW, whatever it is, they are obsessed with this topic.
00:42:59.920Why are they obsessed with this topic? They understand to get to the bottom of 2020 is to reveal all.
00:43:08.000And they're sitting there going, oh, this is the steal of the 2026 election.
00:43:11.280This is to get to the bottom of the stolen election in 2020.
00:43:15.080And that will make us so much smarter, so much tougher and impervious to their stealing 2026 because they intend to steal 2026.
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00:47:42.580I had Google, for example, ads on my website, JoeHoff.com, and was notified a week ago,
00:47:47.740no, we can't continue advertising with you because your articles are dangerous.
00:47:54.920And one of the articles I put up was basically a copy almost of one of President Trump's team's messages about how great the economy is going or something like that.
00:48:07.180That was one of their examples of how my reporting was dangerous.
00:48:11.160So it doesn't matter what you write or what you say to these guys.
00:48:14.520They just want to shut you down if you're really effective.
00:48:16.760And that's the thing that these guys are upset about, too, Steve.
00:48:21.300It's really hard to stomach that cold open that you had there for myself because I just feel like it's so full of errors, omissions, and falsities.
00:51:01.080We have all this chain of command of people, as Jim says.
00:51:05.220Maybe they're not corporate auditors, but you do have a structure that's supposed to certify these at every level.
00:51:10.280I think why people are pulling their hair out, they're saying, how are these elections at State, Secretary of State, they come up and they have these big announcements.
00:51:17.140The election has been certified, and we find out from you that it's not certifiable.
00:51:21.260So the fact is that we've now got 50 elected officials and sometimes appointed officials across the country that can declare everything by the wave of their hands to be okay.
00:51:34.820So certification has become a nuance, I suppose, in the information warfare space.
00:51:43.440But the fact of the matter is certification is supposed to mean something's accurate and compliant.
00:51:48.920Most states have a law that say the number of voters has to reconcile to the number of votes counted.
00:51:54.060And the governors, the secretaries of state, the state board of elections are ignoring it, threatening to put people like Tina Peters in jail because they are concerned about the facts.
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