Episode 5152: Tensions Rise In Iran And Cutting Of Oil To The CCP; Live From Athens
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In this episode of the War Room, Steve and Steve discuss the possibility of war between Israel and Iran, and what the President is keeping in mind as he decides whether or not to go to war with Iran. Plus, a special guest joins us from Greece.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have
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had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything
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the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people
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like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people
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had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
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country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bannon
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every country in the middle east except maybe the uae is desperate to avoid this war the chinese and
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the russians don't want this war trump really doesn't want this war who wants this war benjamin
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netanyahu wow will he get the war that he wants boy it's very hard to say i go back and forth on this
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one uh on one hand i say this war can't happen because we can't achieve our goals by striking
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iran and furthermore you have to take into account what iran can do in retaliation you were just talking
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about the straits of hormuz and what the consequences would be if that one heated up and of course the
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iranians are going to launch ballistic missiles at israel as well so it's hard to see why it makes
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sense to start this war from a purely strategic point of view but then it looks like trump has
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boxed himself in and furthermore the israelis appear to be putting enormous pressure on him
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to go to war against iran and you know can he disobey his masters i don't think so so that pushes me in
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the other direction so i feel one day war is inevitable uh because of pressure from the israelis
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and the next day i think it's not going to happen because i can't tell the story as to how a war leads
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to some sort of happy ending for all the parties okay that's professor mersheimer obviously the guy's
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been dead right on ukraine the entire time matt boyle now joins us from uh greece another tinderbox of
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this part of the broader region matt uh overnight axios came out with a and we had we had captain
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finnell on here yesterday go through a detailed presentation kind of an nsc type briefing of all
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the assets pouring into the region axios this morning reports that this is much farther advanced
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strategically in the planning in the white house than than people understand you're in the region
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right now your your situation the event you had with kimberly guilford was great yesterday she's a
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great ambassador uh i don't know what's more beautiful matt is that your smiling visage
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of matt boyle the national political editor breitbart or the acropolis at sundown in the background sir
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yeah well i mean the greeks are totally hooking it up here for me we've got the acropolis back uh
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back behind me uh which is pretty impressive uh to see um the uh the uh it's been quite a it's my
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second trip here uh really exciting it's your point about you know what may or may not be looming with
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regard to iran and the president's eventual decision making there everyone here is talking about that
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right like so um i've been having a series of discussions with folks in the media in athens as
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well as political defense business leaders both inside and outside government uh since i've arrived
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a little over a day ago uh and everybody expects something to happen from president trump exactly
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what nobody really seems to know yet uh and i don't think anybody knows except president trump
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uh ultimately the president will make a decision i think that there there are several things that
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the president is keeping in mind as he makes any kind of a decision with regard to iran and the
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the first and most important thing if you remember steve last time we talked uh is the polling data
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that shows that support for taking out the regime in iran significantly drops when you start talking
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about even one american casualty so i think the president uh you know if you look at the two major
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military successes uh so far the and i'm talking about major ones there have been a lot of minor ones
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as well like taking out the terrorists and stuff but i'm talking about the major ones the uh the strike
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in iran taking out the nuclear program last year uh and at the beginning of this year to uh you know
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the capture nicholas maduro in venezuela uh what is the the constant in both of those cases very short
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operation no american lives at risk clearly defined policy outcome and goal that was in the american
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interest and achieved uh you know quickly and without paying for america right like so i think that those
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are the things that the president is considering as he's looking at his optionality but hang on for a
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second the axios piece was very detailed and this came from administration people and they talked
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specifically about the difficulty of the target sets different than the 12-day war different because this
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is just not going after nukes and not ballistic missiles they're talking about a several week bombing
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campaign uh that's pretty detailed and and pretty well planned at the same time president trump's in a
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negotiation and he wants to see uh results uh and he's a master negotiator he's brought in all the
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possible leverage he could have with this military because they're flooding you know you're going to
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have two carrier battle groups there captain finnell talked about the possibility of maybe a third
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carrier battle group uh the bush that would be available uh so when mersheimer says that president
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trump's boxed in do you buy that or you think this is a master negotiation strategy to try to get what he
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wants to achieve and maybe cut force him to cut off the oil to the chinese communist party to bring
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down the regime economically yeah well i mean i first off i don't think president trump has ever
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boxed it when it comes to negotiations and he's more powerful than he's ever been in his entire
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political career here in his second term especially as he enters his second year ahead of the state of
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union address a week from today right like so the the fact is is that i think you were going to see
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uh i i i don't know exactly what's going to happen right so i don't want to predict the future
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but what i will say is is that the president always has leverage and this president in particular
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is a master negotiator right like i mean we've seen it with trade deals with peace deals with economic
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deals uh you know one of the things i talked with ambassador guilfoyle about here in athens last
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night is in her first hundred days as u.s ambassador to greece right she was a little delayed in
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getting here because you know one of the the beauties of democracy and we've got the birthplace
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of it here right behind me uh one of the beauties of democracy is is that our united states senate has
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all sorts of finicky procedures but anyway she's been here a little more than 100 days now finally
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got through the delays in the united states senate and they got her confirmed uh what what has she done
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major energy deals right like so they just signed a huge deal with chevron to do offshore drilling
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uh an exploration for uh lng off the coast of greece right i mean who would have thought that's
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possible right the europeans uh you know uh are are basically doing drill baby drill that's the thing
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i keep hearing from everybody right everybody here is walking around talking about drill baby drill who
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would have thought that in greece or anywhere in europe uh you know a few years ago uh but the what
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you're seeing is is that the you know these folks are siding with president trump but again so what i'm
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saying is is that everything's a negotiation with president trump everything's about creating more
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leverage everything's about interconnected with everything else and so to your point about you
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know cutting off the chinese communist party it's worth noting the president has a planned trip there
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coming up in uh in april right like so and the the the ultimate negotiation is with china right about
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the the future of that uh so in all of these other trade deals are about creating leverage for that and
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you know the india trade deal is all about russia and ukraine and cutting off uh india from buying
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russian energy so the the all of these things are interconnected the president has more leverage than
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he's ever had his entire political career in his entire life and business i i think that he has
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more power and control than ever and so um no he's not boxed in i think if anything he's in the driver's
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seat let's talk about what happens next yeah all the carry battle groups it looks like
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heading to the north arabian sea but you can't forget the eastern mediterranean where greece and
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turkey are at the very beginning day in this discussion that netanyahu said okay look if you
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guys aren't prepared to go let us go we'll do it but we will need some defensive support in the first
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48 hours of the 12-day war we shipped i think sailed two or three aegis class cruisers to the eastern
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mediterranean right off of greece to act as air defense is the concern in the region that everybody's
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looking at the north arabian sea and hitting iran but a conflict that could go from the persian gulf
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and the because the iranians if they're hit are just are going to try to hit back they're going to
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try to hit the oil the gas fields in qatar they're going to try to hit the saudis uh is there any concern
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that this could metastasize because you're essentially sitting on a tinderbox between the greeks and the
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who hate each other's guts sir yeah well first off i will say you hear a little bit less of turkey
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talk here uh since uh on this trip as compared with my last one uh and i think that's because
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uh president trump has effectively handled erdogan uh and you know he says nice things about him but
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doesn't actually give him anything right like they keep wanting the same things dating back to 2019 and
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they haven't gotten it right like so it is what it is with that uh but more particularly to your point
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about uh if there is some kind of a war with iran or some kind of a military action um uh i literally
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just left an interview where another journalist asked me the same question and they are concerned
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about it uh here uh because of how close it is right like and so
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okay i think we just dropped a fee to matt bowl try to get that set back up let's go to australia
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we got dr thayer this is the magic of real america's voice let's go to australia one of our top
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strategists is down there for a big conference with ben harnwell dr thayer your assessment you've seen
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the axios piece this morning you've been warning that this planning had to be a much more advanced than
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it was your thoughts uh it certainly is and and uh the air bridge keeps flowing into the region
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if you're looking at uh the movements of course of uh american mobility of the air mobility command
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uh steve so lots of resources are flowing into the region hang on hang on hang on hang on one second
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because jim finnell talked about the naval resources when you say air bridge what do you mean by that
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to find it for the audience and and what resources are flowing in on the air bridge now
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so very valuable uh and uh resources are flowing in via american cargo aircraft those would be c-17s
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uh and c-5s larger but principally c-17s into the region they would be bringing personnel they'd be
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bringing material uh that would be um immediately useful uh to uh deploy uh in the region and uh that
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bridge is very important because it's signifying that america's precious valuable um and uh assets
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are going there right now right so they're going to uh the middle east presently uh and that's designed
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to allow obviously the military option to be executed that's also allowed to allow real muscle
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uh to be provided to the diplomatic effort uh which is uh which is ongoing which is coterminous so
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the iranian regime is looking down the wrong end of a very large gun barrel and that's going to help
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with diplomacy but if diplomacy fails uh then the trigger is going to be pulled uh against the target
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set uh in um uh in iran hang on let's talk about hang on i want to talk about the target set because you
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did great analysis on the 12-day war and then the the total obliteration campaign the expeditionary
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force of the of the uh of the bombers from nebraska and the navy uh tomahawk missiles also in this the
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strike the magnificent strike of special forces from um from the 82nd airborne in venezuela this is
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quite different they're talking now axios the leak and it came from the administration
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a minimum of a several week intense bombing campaign sir your your thought we got about a
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minute we're going to hold you through but your thoughts well certainly i would make two points
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here just before the break uh steve one matt's right that trump's not boxed in uh and um trump is a
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master negotiator and nothing is determinative yet but it does look that we are not just inching
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but we're really taking uh some we're galloping towards conflict uh with iran that target set
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could be limited or it could be a major attack option it's looking like a major attack option
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against the leadership against the uh republican guard against other military targets and the ballistic
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missiles uh of course which are at this point iran's principal mechanism of retaliation ballistic
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missiles more so than uh the modest aircraft uh assets that they have so uh it does look like
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we're galloping towards a major attack option uh against iran uh and um uh at this time that has of
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course consequences yeah hang on one second we've got 30 seconds i want to hold all this
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do the next break galloping and not boxed in pretty detailed leaks out to the media today
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kurt uh mills has gone to jewish we're talking about what mersheimer said bruce springsteen takes you
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harnwell we couldn't be prouder that you're taking the uh taking the war room and taking it to an
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australian audience closing thoughts on on this kurt mills is on deck uh you've you've kind of called
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this from the beginning you got an air bridge now you get massive naval uh assets coming in leaks
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from the white house saying that the planning for this and for a sustained long attack is much
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more developed than people have thought uh your closing thoughts sir yeah they're certainly signaling
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that steve right they're signaling that this is going to be a major attack that's useful for
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diplomacy as i said and that would certainly be useful if conflict uh erupts uh my thoughts are
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these that uh closing thoughts are these not determinative um president trump can alter course if he
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chooses to secondly major attack options are going to be sustained uh and that's going to involve
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it's a very difficult target set going after individuals and going after uh even ballistic
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missiles and cruise missiles uh which the iranians have and will likely be along with terrorism
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their principal means uh of retaliation against the gulf shakedoms uh and u.s allies uh and perhaps the
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u.s uh itself finally uh this is par these assets are precious so all the assets that are going into
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this area have a high opportunity cost all right they're not around japan they're not around taiwan
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they're not around the philippines even as uh chinese communist party's aggression uh continues
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against our allies and partners uh in the indo-pacific uh and elsewhere so china's military buildup and its
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aggression continues and the assets that are in the middle east uh can't be used to serve
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conventional deterrent or other missions uh in the uh indo-pacific so um very important to keep uh that
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in mind if there is going to be a war it's likely going to be one which is sustained and of course every
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war takes its own course uh right once you you start it uh as klaus was warned of course warfare is not
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predictable uh it will have its own pathway uh so very important to keep uh these points in mind as
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we move towards um uh obviously great security competition with iran what is your uh social
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media how they follow you on your trip and all your uh writings and analysis sir well brad there at x and
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bradley there at getter and truth and uh thank you very much steve for streaming we have a lot of
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great australians uh here who are uh working with us to solve really to cut the gordian knot of western
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politics which is uh how can the people of western countries be heard right how is it that you can um
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uh change path uh and uh really bring about popular change uh whether it's in ireland or in texas
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or in australia thanks very much we sent two of our biggest hammers dr bradley thayer and our own
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ben harnwell from uh our international division in rome so thank you sir thank you for being out
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there it's great look forward to streaming all the panels and speeches and get you guys back on
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fantastic kurt mills um the leak overnight to uh axios uh and others i think part of that came from
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obviously uh the israelis uh the writer is known to be very plugged in at the highest levels of the
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israeli military intelligence services in government uh what is your thought is this president trump is
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this another um strategic asset he's using to try to get to a negotiated end because as you said two
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days ago we had you on this thing's changing every 12 hours so given the fact that they're sending a
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message that hey we have been planning this for a while we understand that this target set is not
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going to be a one-night knockout like the 12-day war or venezuela and we're set if we do it we're set
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to go in and we're set to essentially let's be blunt this is not about the nuclear program at least
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what's been purported is not about the nuclear program it's not about the ballistic missile this is
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a it looks like planning a regime change strike sir
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yeah so i think the first thing that you flag that it's been a bit of a whiplash is an understatement
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um yesterday morning eastern time so as the negotiations were concluding at the end of the
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business day in europe on tuesday um the iranian readout was quite positive on how the negotiations
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went uh they thought that they had a framework for continuing the talks and the u.s signaled that the
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talks would continue uh the vice president's appearance on fox news or fox business um at the
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evening eastern time or at least when it aired uh was open to some interpretation a bit of a
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rorschach test um some thought that vance's rhetoric was pretty hawkish indicating that they'd only
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signaled that they were going to continue the talks others thought that there was more of an opening
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there uh vance the vice president only emphasized as the president has emphasized that no nuclear
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weapon is the goal so if that is the goal uh in my view they will come to a deal uh if the goal is
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more expansive i.e zero enrichment uh basically what it would take is 90 enrichment to get a nuclear weapon
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so if they accepted some low level enrichment like 1.5 um i think we would get a deal if the goal
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goal is zero enrichment or even more expansive ballistic missiles then i think we are going
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to war and the report that ravine and you're right to say the axios writer is extremely plugged in uh i
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believe he's a dual national or he's literally just an israeli um says that uh not only is trump
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considering going to war uh that it's going to be a war that is far far far more expansive uh than the
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operation that went on uh to maduro and indeed as the midnight hour approached eastern time last night
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uh there people very plugged into it thought uh that there was a chance not only of a strike
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a la uh june 2025 but a broader maneuver and as the day has wandered on today wednesday the iranians
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appeared prepared uh for that uh contingency and that battle uh that ship the ford is it appears to be a lot
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closer to the region that people understood even a day ago so let's go back i want to go back uh over
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that for a second particularly because the region uh i think people in the region are not as gung-ho
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on this because of the ballistic missile situation the gas fields with qatar uh which i think some of
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the jointly run with the uh with the persians you got the situation with the saudis um and the
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ballistic missile i can't see now if you're saying hey it's got to be totally about enrichment nuclear
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i just don't see how president trump gets off this ballistic missile situation because i think
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it's absolutely not icbms not things that would hit the united states as a lot of people you know
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try to run out of their hair and fire these these are these are the ballistic missiles hit tel aviv
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that did so much damage also could hit qatar and they're really concerned about the oil fields i've
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talked to people that are experts in the region they're saying hey you get into a three or four
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week shooting war here our gas field that massive gas field that supplies so much for uh europe and
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others could be taken out and not be brought back up for five years so i i don't see any situation do
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you think that these negotiations can't include some sort of discussion of ballistic missiles and
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if you're saying the iranians are going to say well heck with that we'll just go to war
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then i think we're on the path to a kinetic conflict right i mean look the president has to decide
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basically what his criteria are um i i totally see a pathway to negotiation without the missiles
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that's what the original negotiations were last spring before the negotiations were interrupted by
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the israelis and then frankly this is why our politics are becoming corroded by this discussion
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frankly the mcbms the medium medium range ballistic missiles uh don't affect the united states
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they're not a threat to the united states they're a threat to israel they're not a threat to anybody
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else in the region they're not a threat well hang on hang on hang on hang on they're a threat
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to the gas fields are they not that's what they're going to hit the gas right only in the
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contention of a war yeah only that's yes yes yes but i mean if we don't go to war there's no there's
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no threat right uh but we haven't they didn't hit israel until we went to war there anyway what
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it seems it seems like from the messaging over the last 24 hours and we had rabbi willucky on here
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yesterday and one thing he mentioned about the framework he said look the way the persians
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as you know they're so bureaucratic the way they traditionally negotiate is a win for them is to
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have another meeting and so this may be going down and whitkoff and kushner could be reporting back
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saying hey they want to get to the next meeting there's a series this but are we really making
00:26:24.820
any headway on the big issues as you know president trump is a patient man but he does have limited
00:26:31.440
patience sir yeah i know i mean the pretty hawkish nuclear expert who i think is who is a professional
00:26:37.600
i don't agree with his politics but david albright uh has signaled that the iranians are beginning to
00:26:42.780
hide nuclear weapons sorry nuclear material again underground further to try to shield them from
00:26:49.540
uh from bombing so there is evidence that you know look that the iranians could be stalling but i think
00:26:54.260
the overriding uh story here is that this is basically a bureaucratic uh autocratic uh you know
00:27:01.660
almost sovietized part of the world and that that they are pretty slow in negotiating in fact they
00:27:08.040
still maintain that they want to do indirect negotiations which is these are sort of bizarre
00:27:12.360
situations in which you know whitkoff's in one room the foreign minister arachis in another room
00:27:16.800
they're not doing themselves any favor uh but i mean going to full-scale war uh because the iranians
00:27:23.120
uh tactical decisions diplomatically are goofy i'm not really sure is in the american interest
00:27:28.880
hang on for a second because i want to talk about the political calculation here domestically
00:27:34.100
because obviously from georgia and people uh they're coming in and out the georgia lecture board
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we've got it up uh streaming it's right there it was on it's right there on the screen you can dip
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in and out of that uh a fascinating uh uh effort in georgia as we dig in there to make sure they
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don't give up the uh don't give up the ballots and get to the bottom of this entire mess the stolen
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2020 election yes it's still living and breathing because uh the streets of minneapolis are still
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okay we've got matt boyle by phone we lost the light pretty poetic right we lost the light in
00:30:01.380
athens but we have matt boyle by phone matt you're a national political editor of uh breitbart uh news
00:30:08.660
and have been for a very long time you're probably i think the best reporter by far understanding maga
00:30:15.900
uh where it looks like potentially on a path to a kinetic conflict here uh your domestic political
00:30:23.100
calculations of that sir well look i mean if if they if we are on a path to a conflict which i would
00:30:30.320
agree with your assessment it seems like we are um then again if it really is very quick over and on
00:30:38.220
i think the president will be viewed as uh as a massive success but if it turns into a long drag
00:30:44.740
out thing right like i mean they're talking about what three or four weeks right now well that's what
00:30:49.220
they were saying at the beginning of iraq right like uh you know and then a decade or so later we
00:30:54.080
were still there right so like the question is is can the president do something quick and uh you know
00:31:00.120
not protracted and not long and is the objective uh achieved very quickly and are uh americans
00:31:08.200
lives protected if that's the case then uh you know he's going to go down as a you know an
00:31:14.060
incredible leader if he gets us dragged into a long protracted war uh that destabilizes the region
00:31:20.240
and what i think when we got cut off there i was just talking about uh when the connection dropped
00:31:25.960
for me um uh that we were just talking about how uh greek people i've been talking to lots of
00:31:32.060
greek people both inside and outside government uh and they are all talking about this and what whether
00:31:38.180
or not uh it may or may not destabilize the region uh everybody understands that um that the you
00:31:44.980
know this this has worldwide consequences uh that will ripple across europe that will go you know into
00:31:52.100
asia uh that uh you know over to the united states and so um you know will this undercut the president's
00:31:59.640
broader agenda of rewriting the global economic order uh in a manner that helps america first with the
00:32:06.160
trade deals that he's been doing around the world uh will it uh undercut the energy agenda that he's
00:32:11.880
achieving um or will it again just be a quick or you know in and out type of a thing i don't i don't
00:32:18.240
know the answers to those questions i can't see the future uh but i can tell you that those are the
00:32:22.920
questions that uh american voters are going to be asking and they're again at the end of the day
00:32:28.760
uh for republicans want to win the midterms they need to deliver economically on the things that
00:32:34.700
president trump campaigned on in 2024 and in other elections as well uh the the maga agenda and i don't
00:32:41.700
know how war helps the economy so much it really probably doesn't right like and so um this is uh you
00:32:49.280
know not necessarily the uh the thing uh that you know is going to address the big buzzword of the year
00:32:56.280
if you will which is affordability right like which will probably have another buzzword from the
00:33:00.000
democrats by november but the point is is that it's you know i don't know if this this does that
00:33:06.720
so we'll see yeah no we had we had peter on right for you they're talking about their affordability
00:33:11.400
agenda particularly in housing matt bull fantastic uh the event with uh kimberly was fantastic she's
00:33:18.080
doing a great job uh look forward to hearing all your reporting from there where do people go to
00:33:22.660
get everything you're putting up at breitbart and your social media sir yeah just breitbart.com
00:33:27.960
at mboyle1 on x twitter and at real matt boyle on true social and we have a lot of stuff coming from
00:33:33.600
here like we have a lot of stories that are going to be coming out so keep your eyes on all that stuff
00:33:38.420
and i'm going to italy on the way back and we have a lot of stuff coming from there too so you've got
00:33:43.780
some next week you've got some pretty big interviews my understanding is my sources in rome
00:33:50.960
of which we're very well sourced even with harnwell now in australia uh that you've got
00:33:56.000
some pretty big i don't want to tip them off but you got some pretty big interviews uh coming up in
00:34:00.180
italy in italy yeah so i was originally just going to go there to go to the olympics because a friend
00:34:05.140
of mine has tickets to the gold medal hockey game and then it turned into word got out for across the
00:34:10.640
political universe matt boyle's coming so everybody wants to sit down with me so we're going to do
00:34:15.420
amazing stuff while we're there too so okay great we'll we'll get you in from italy thank you
00:34:20.260
so appreciate you yep all right thank you steve kurt in the time we got a remaining and i want to do
00:34:25.840
something you know there has been this tension or a discussion between the israelis and the americans
00:34:32.160
and netanyahu is basically and they've leaked this out to say look if you're not prepared and not ready
00:34:37.680
we got it if the political calculation is not right we got it but we're gonna go you know we got this
00:34:44.160
thing where we want it we're gonna go but we're gonna need some defensive backup we're gonna need
00:34:48.080
those aegis class sent back to the eastern med we're gonna need dads and and patriots you got
00:34:54.400
to back us up because tel aviv and people don't realize president trump on the 12-day war one of
00:34:59.880
the reasons he stepped in to take it down was that tel aviv was getting really eviscerated uh is there
00:35:05.880
an option here that the israelis can do it on their own and we can provide enough minimum defense that we
00:35:12.340
don't get dragged in that the the persians just going to say screw it i'm going after cutter i'm going
00:35:17.440
after the saudis i'm going after every american base i'm going to go after the uh the two battle
00:35:22.580
groups sir i'm not sure i mean number one i think to answer your question directly uh that would
00:35:30.520
potentially impair all negotiations between the united states and iran and the president seems to
00:35:34.880
like these talks going on just to have the talks i mean say what you will for the iranians but the
00:35:39.560
president is negotiating a number of world conflicts right now and likes to be part of the
00:35:44.540
conversation and uh supporting a military action led by israel on iran isn't exactly the act of a
00:35:51.220
interested party um so i think the iranians would discontinue it um so and then additionally i'm not
00:35:57.260
sure there's full um trust from the israelis actually that if the israelis led the attack uh number one that
00:36:05.260
they could decapitate the regime all the reporting since the beginning of the administration is that
00:36:09.680
they feel that they can't uh they couldn't bomb flerdau uh and they can't even do a lot of these
00:36:14.100
special operations without u.s air support um that's all the reporting and that's all the military
00:36:18.620
understanding that i have on that front and then secondarily there is the precedent it's a small
00:36:23.900
precedent uh comparatively of yemen uh so the president got into a new war in yemen with the houthis
00:36:30.740
uh last spring uh and then he left it he cut bait he cut a separate deal with the houthi leadership
00:36:37.100
uh and he said this is basically an israeli problem now yemen and the houthis are much
00:36:42.580
smaller potatoes uh than the iranians um but the but the israelis must have to fear that contingency
00:36:49.200
and they should fear it that if the war got really nasty and the iranians put up much more of a fight
00:36:53.760
this time which i deeply suspect they will uh that trump and the u.s will just get out and then the
00:36:59.480
israelis will have a war that they can't finish so kurt uh we've got on the screen uh down below we
00:37:05.240
we're all day at the georgia election board hearing uh the war room audience is is is very
00:37:12.020
focused on the steel of 2020 we've had these reports now that they're mocking and ridiculing
00:37:16.900
us in in minnesota about how we you know the the marxists are saying we lost and we were treated we're
00:37:21.960
not going to do any mass deportations they just had a major jury nullification here in dallas
00:37:26.920
on a murder uh on trenda iraga murdering people in cold blood and and now we see these pamphlets
00:37:33.780
and courses on uh jury nullification how they're training up the left the the left is motivated it
00:37:40.880
it's doing voter registration it's getting out the vote um how does this play particularly and i'm just
00:37:47.440
saying what was in axios this morning that the administration has not said hey this is not true
00:37:53.280
uh this detailed plan of an extended bombing campaign how do you think that plays domestically
00:37:58.640
given the fact they had the meeting yesterday at the capitol hill club and they talk about
00:38:01.880
everything's about the economy we had navarra in here it's all predicated on affordability
00:38:05.780
gdp growth wage growth job growth etc etc etc how does this fit into that calculation well it's hard to
00:38:15.040
make the argument that you're focused on the economy if you're starting new foreign wars and then
00:38:18.900
traditionally this is a foreign war unlike some of the other the uh of the adventures that trump has
00:38:24.480
flirted with that actually could really spiral the economy i mean it is not going to be hard for the
00:38:29.640
iranians to close the strait of her moves the the very small channel of water that a lot of global
00:38:35.300
oil goes through if the iranians close it and all they have to do to close it is start filing
00:38:39.600
firing a few missiles or a few bullets literally at ships and no one's going to put their sailors
00:38:45.580
through it no one's going to insure those kind of ships except for the black market pirates frankly
00:38:50.200
that could spike the price of crude to let's say 80 90 dollars a barrel so you know 1.5x 2x
00:38:59.060
americans aren't going to like that americans aren't going to understand why we're doing this
00:39:02.860
um moreover um i think you know i there's a sort of canard or leitmotif that you know basically
00:39:11.120
trump's uh support is durable i agree with that i think if you call i think if we do this war with
00:39:16.120
iran and we are calling people at easter say you know early april and they ask do you support the
00:39:21.780
president if you if you call the median uh listener to war room and you ask them do you support the
00:39:27.060
president do you support the administration they're gonna say yes right but there's a lot of ruin in the
00:39:31.640
level of support um there's such a thing as motivation there's such a thing as demotivation
00:39:36.340
and if uh you know it's one thing to prefer this administration over a democratic one it's one
00:39:42.400
thing to prefer donald trump uh over uh most republicans or any republican i do certainly um
00:39:48.480
but it's another thing to not really understand uh or have faith in the course of action that looks a
00:39:54.500
lot like george w bush that looks a lot like george w bush's second term and meanwhile the democrats can
00:40:00.280
dust off the 2006 2007 playbook and run the anti-war movement thing yeah it'll be very cynical
00:40:07.300
because the democrats continued a lot of these wars they expanded a lot of these wars but it
00:40:11.660
doesn't matter cynicism wins all the time in politics and they can try to run it and then
00:40:15.600
finally one other domestic parallel that i think should be flagged from history uh barack obama came
00:40:21.520
in as an anti-war president and he saw his own ranks demotivated by what they saw as an
00:40:26.980
establishment sellout presidency and that led to the rise of bernie sanders and i think you know it
00:40:32.700
should not be discounted we are it is a lot it is very early in the political calendar but there
00:40:36.880
could be a serious new populist right backlash to an already populist right administration
00:40:42.180
let me ask you you know in in in the 12-day war and in venezuela there was a lot of buildup and
00:40:48.180
people said hey that if the you know if president trump goes in and tries to do regime change bombing
00:40:52.320
it's going to be a disaster he was he sent an expeditionary force that was highly targeted
00:40:57.320
right you sent the he sent the b2s from from nebraska from nebraska and he sent um or you know
00:41:03.360
the midwest and you sent the the navy submarines with the tomahawks boom over done obliteration in
00:41:10.460
uh venezuela the same thing take out the top guy make a deal with the other people figure it out
00:41:15.760
uh what about because president trump is a guy who looks at a range of alternatives
00:41:20.060
but if there's a strike it's a concentrated strike and not this three or four week bombing campaign
00:41:25.580
which they may have leaked as you said just a negotiating power if it's intense if it's
00:41:31.100
concentrated and if it gets results where do you think that leaves us what are results that the
00:41:38.240
decapitation of the regime is that even particularly preferable because i mean the u.s uh will then be
00:41:43.680
responsible for the transition uh and i i think the u.s will have to handle the transition the israelis
00:41:49.680
won't uh i want i want to go back to that your belief is is that if you go in and it's more than
00:41:55.580
just taking out ballistic missiles or some broader context with these negotiations but if it's taking
00:42:00.620
out the iranian military the revolutionary guard the mullahs the ayatollahs you own it you you you
00:42:07.020
got everybody worked up in the streets by destroying you know best in destroying their their currency you
00:42:11.180
got them all worked up uh if you take it now you own it yeah pottery bond rule right i mean colin powell
00:42:17.800
was right about this i mean i think colin powell should have resigned from the bush administration
00:42:21.200
rather than advocate for war he didn't believe it and i think that's on his record forever
00:42:25.080
but colin powell's arguments internally cautioning against the iraq war based on the pottery bond rule
00:42:31.040
if you break it you buy it which is why the first bush administration george hw bush the father uh say
00:42:37.020
what you will more responsible president than his son uh didn't go all the way to baghdad because they
00:42:42.280
knew it would look like this and so i think you know stipulating that we can even do this with the
00:42:48.260
the military plan that we're considering that we can't even we can even can decapitate the regime
00:42:54.200
um what do you replace it with and i mean there's there's all these sort of goofy uh sort of proposals
00:43:00.080
uh principally anchored around the race of palabi person the sort of um playboy the monarchist
00:43:08.180
thing's a joke you know they had the 100 000 people he's the leading candidate and i like
00:43:13.520
seriously i i don't mean to float this and i'm not rooting for this but if he goes to iran
00:43:17.500
and he is murdered in like 10 days when he says i'm here i'm the king what is the u.s plan then
00:43:23.800
the shah the shah okay hang over a second we're gonna drill down on this for a minute on the other
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uh kurt mills we got a a minute or two uh first of all i want to here's what i want to immerse the
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war and posse and everything you're great i want to give your sight again but if you had to
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recommend the guys to do the best job you think of the counter argument because i want people to get
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i want everybody walking into this thing with total eyes open that you got all the information
00:46:43.600
possible because if something happens here even a negotiation this is going to have massive
00:46:49.060
geopolitical impact and and impact politically here domestically so what would be the who would
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you recommend to give the the the alternative to kurt mills's theory of the case well i think you
00:47:02.360
in that case we should flag the people that are pretty relevant on this and so i would say the
00:47:07.060
foundation for defense of democracies which is uh renamed from basically a israeli word or a hebrew word
00:47:14.880
uh because it is basically not declared an israeli pr shop and they are uh driving uh the push for war
00:47:25.680
uh this is a group of people who were chock full frankly of never trumpers people who signed the
00:47:31.940
never trump letters frankly um and people who did not support trump's rise in the republican party in
00:47:37.360
2015-2016 did not support him for election against Hillary Clinton um and we're not you know particularly
00:47:43.360
helpful in 2020 i would flag um but they have been instrumental in writing a lot of trump's iran policy
00:47:50.280
in term one and they are uh i think uh although they're not as represented in this administration
00:47:56.160
they are blowing the horn for war in term two so fdd we know this guy's well and you you got
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two alternatives if you wanted to go somewhere to get just information about the neocon case without
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maybe the partisan push where would you so fdd would be one uh where would they is there any kind
00:48:15.280
of you would recommend middle of the road uh uh neocon that you could go and just get information
00:48:20.740
because i want i want to we want to immerse people in both the military the tactical all of it where
00:48:25.740
they go but the journal's hard reporting is is fine you know so i mean i think the editorial board
00:48:30.940
exists for the humor of one man rupert murdoch um and so they're very similar to fdd and in their
00:48:36.560
flavor but wsj is you know the the tone of it is is more hawkish than my cup of tea uh but w wall street
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journals hard reporting on iran is excellent um and i i recommend reading it's highly plugged in
00:48:48.220
and it's highly accurate okay where do they go for you i want to go to the newspaper the magazine
00:48:53.200
and the uh in your social media sure um we are the american conservative we are at the american
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conservative.com founded in 2002 by pat pucannon and others against the iraq war um i am at kurt mills
00:49:07.940
at c-u-r-t-m-i-l-l-s um and on on x and uh look uh you know we are on the right uh and uh we oppose
00:49:18.360
the bush administration going to war in iraq and you know if we have to we'll oppose this
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administration going to war in iran but i hope we don't have to do it so kurt mills thank you for
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