Bannon's War Room - February 26, 2026


Episode 5171： Judge Order On Fulton Ballot Seizure; AI Revolution In The Department Of War


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00:00:00.000 promoting something that we mentioned with senator klobuchar last hour what's called the save act
00:00:04.240 a republican solution which is in search of a problem a fix for something donald trump made up
00:00:10.000 in the aftermath of his electoral defeat in 2020 once more for the people in the back claims of
00:00:15.100 widespread voter fraud have been wholly debunked again and again and again year after year after
00:00:22.580 year and yet the gop is right now fighting tooth and nail to put something on donald trump's desk
00:00:27.660 that could potentially disenfranchise 21 million up to 21 million american voters in the name of
00:00:34.080 solving a fake problem to underscore the ridiculous nature of that pursuit consider what's happening
00:00:39.040 here in fulton county georgia that's atlanta the state election board there is once again
00:00:44.060 wrapped up in review of years old election results thanks to a federal subpoena search and seizure of
00:00:50.520 related materials well the republican appointed chair of that board in a conversation with the
00:00:56.960 atlanta journal constitution podcast says there's a lot of political theater going on
00:01:01.460 listen
00:01:03.380 the fulton county that's elections department that is there now is not the same one that was there in
00:01:08.640 2020 i'd be the last person to say that there was no mistakes in 2020 there's a lot of mistakes
00:01:13.740 there's a lot of uh... for a lot of different reasons you know you're having election during
00:01:18.100 covid they were hiring people that weren't trained properly uh... there was a whole lot of absentee
00:01:23.800 ballots and there's just a lot of issues that happened in 2020 but i've yet to see anything
00:01:28.300 that would rise to a level of a crime or malfeasance or anything like that it's just a lot of mistakes
00:01:33.360 that were made but you know 2020 is over with we have had multiple elections since then
00:01:38.860 hi he said i've yet to see anything that would rise to the level of a crime or malfeasance or anything like that
00:01:45.360 thankfully for veer went on to insist he has not quote had any serious discussions with any board members
00:01:50.500 about them wanting to take over fulton county
00:01:52.520 however the broader concern persists the president united states
00:01:56.060 is right now applying pressure on officials at the state and federal level
00:02:00.440 to accommodate his outright falsehoods about widespread voter fraud
00:02:04.480 more breaking reporting tonight from ms now donald trump's department of homeland security
00:02:09.160 just told states that ice agents will stay away from polling locations ahead of the midterms
00:02:14.600 dhs official made that pledge on a call with secretaries of state earlier today
00:02:19.400 multiple sources confirmed to ms now
00:02:21.840 if we trust what they say this is obviously a win for free and fair elections
00:02:27.180 and proof that public outcry does move the needle
00:02:30.440 but we have learned time and time again that dhs cannot be trusted by words alone
00:02:36.060 according to maine secretary of state sheena bellows on that same call
00:02:40.180 federal agencies refuse to make public statements reinforcing the constitutional principle that the states
00:02:46.460 not the federal government are in charge of elections i know you're shocked michael
00:02:50.500 i don't believe a damn word of it i don't believe anything that comes out of dhs
00:02:56.700 i don't believe anything that comes out of pam bondi cash patel
00:03:01.440 uh ice whoever's running ice don't believe it
00:03:06.220 because it's all a lie because this election means more to this president
00:03:12.580 than anything else in front of him period
00:03:15.260 because it sets in motion what the next two years look like for him
00:03:20.000 so y'all y'all can get you know drink that kool-aid if you want to
00:03:23.700 but simone i'm not i'm not buying an inch of it
00:03:26.160 more breaking news cuba says it killed four people and wounded six others during a shootout
00:03:30.340 with the florida registered speedboat their nationalities are unknown right now
00:03:33.920 here's what secretary of state marco rubio is saying about it
00:03:36.560 suffice it to say it is highly unusual to see shootouts
00:03:41.120 in open sea like that it's not something that happens every day
00:03:45.240 it's something frankly that hasn't happened with cuba
00:03:47.080 uh in a very long time
00:03:48.860 u.s and iranian negotiating teams are meeting today for another round of high-stake talks in geneva switzerland
00:03:54.820 now during his stead of the union address president trump had said he'd yet
00:03:59.000 to hear iranians promise that their country would never have a nuclear weapon
00:04:03.180 though hours before that speech iran's foreign minister posted a message
00:04:07.360 online saying that tehran will never seek to develop one
00:04:11.540 secretary of state marco rubio talked about today's meetings
00:04:15.500 with caribbean leaders and after that meeting
00:04:18.900 this is what some of what he said
00:04:20.860 well i think tomorrow steve and jared will be there i think they're on their way there now actually
00:04:26.120 and the president was very clear last night that he always prefers diplomacy
00:04:29.920 but i want you to understand and everyone should know that iran poses a very great threat to the
00:04:34.700 united states and has for a very long time
00:04:36.540 they are in possession first and foremost after their nuclear program was obliterated
00:04:41.420 they were told not to try to restart it and here they are you can see them always trying to rebuild
00:04:46.100 elements of it they're not enriching right now but they're trying to get to the point where they
00:04:49.700 ultimately can the other thing i would point you to however is that iran possesses a very large
00:04:56.520 number of ballistic missiles particularly short-range ballistic missiles that threaten
00:05:01.140 the united states and our bases in the region and our partners in the region and all of our bases in
00:05:07.040 the uae and qatar and in bahrain and they also possess naval assets that threaten shipping and try to
00:05:15.100 threaten the u.s navy so i want everyone to understand that and beyond just a nuclear program
00:05:19.700 they possess these conventional weapons that are solely designed to attack america and attack
00:05:25.700 americans if they so choose to do so these things have to be addressed so i think framing is the right
00:05:32.860 way to set it up because this is part of a continuation a story that trump has been telling
00:05:37.000 for for years now uh going all the way back to his first election in 2016 this idea that
00:05:42.560 there is malfeasance that democrats are somehow you know manipulating the votes that they are
00:05:49.020 the reason they support immigration the way they do is because they get to cheat you know this has been
00:05:53.540 a consistent through line and now that he's in this position of power he is on sitting on top of the
00:05:59.240 right-wing media and this larger echo chamber and it sort of served two purposes either they
00:06:04.040 successfully leverage power and drive this thing through in which case they've managed to
00:06:08.780 genuinely you know suppress a large part of the vote and make it really difficult for people to
00:06:13.980 vote and therefore maybe even win as a result of that or they don't get it through but they spend
00:06:19.080 the next few months undermining the elections telling a story about all this supposed non-existent
00:06:24.720 cheating that's happening out there working up their people into a frenzy so that immediately after
00:06:29.580 the election or even maybe before it they can either crack down in some way in an elastic effort to sort of
00:06:35.080 seize seize the election through extraordinary means or invalidate or hold the results sort of up in the
00:06:41.760 air afterwards so that they can continue to sort of leverage that uncertainty for their own political
00:06:46.520 power and that's really the framing here it's part of this larger narrative that trump has been telling
00:06:51.340 and we just can't divorce that the lies are are are a point here they're part of exercising political power
00:06:57.460 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
00:07:08.400 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a
00:07:15.240 belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world to stop
00:07:19.400 that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the
00:07:23.960 big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself
00:07:32.700 what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will be
00:07:41.220 saved war room here's your host stephen k band
00:07:45.300 it's thursday 26 february in the year of lord 2026 bobby kennedy heading out to austin texas today
00:07:55.720 we're going to cover that this maha uh event in austin the president's coming out to corpus christi texas
00:08:02.480 tomorrow our own brian glenn will be there brian will join us in a while from the white house
00:08:07.120 so will neil mccabe from cuba uh to the caribbean cuba uh geneva um atlanta georgia fulton county
00:08:16.900 news all over important news and of course massive uh negotiations behind the scene on artificial
00:08:22.820 intelligence we're a mark build join us we're absolutely packed today i want to go first to
00:08:27.140 georgia and uh jason frazier first garland favoree is also going to join us so jason i just first off
00:08:35.640 jason i would like to have you respond because it's people and the reason we do these cold opens
00:08:41.000 and we show the msnbc and cnn and i know the audience used to hate it now they like it because
00:08:45.940 they see the information warfare out there every night folks you have to understand they pound and
00:08:52.140 pound and pound there's nothing to see here nothing happened this is all lies this trump's a liar
00:08:57.840 the people around him are wing nuts and you saw at the beginning that was one of the shows last
00:09:03.080 night in the a block nothing to see here they've they've they've done 50 investigations in georgia
00:09:09.000 and there were two votes uh that can you just answer uh uh jason because you've done you and rossi i
00:09:16.560 think have done the pick and shovel work can you respond to the msnbc anchors in the in the first part
00:09:22.620 of that cold open sir i mean i guess the easiest way to sum it up is when i ask my children to clean
00:09:28.940 their room they don't lock the door and say it's clean if we had clean election elections in georgia
00:09:34.280 if we had clean elections in 2020 they would be happy to say you know what we're going to have a
00:09:40.580 public press conference we're going to show you all the ballots we're going to record everything
00:09:44.200 we're going to we're going to be proud to show you how good we are but they are hiding the ballots
00:09:49.380 they have wanted to shred the 2020 ballots for years now they've said we don't have room in the
00:09:54.360 warehouse for these ballots but all of a sudden now that the fbi graciously took them out of the
00:09:59.020 warehouse so they have room that they wanted now they want them back i mean that tells you the story
00:10:04.200 right then and there we've got problems in georgia they are afraid of what might be found
00:10:08.700 um jason in fact i think the uh clark actually a couple years ago actually made a move to destroy
00:10:16.200 the ballots but only because of the garland favoritos and the jason frasers of the world was a stop
00:10:22.720 she wanted to actually destroy the ballots a couple years ago correct because it was too expensive to
00:10:27.420 take up that space right we've got this giant new warehouse south of atlanta there is plenty of room
00:10:33.380 there but they have been trying to get rid of the evidence and we've all heard about uh absentee ballots
00:10:38.960 that came back and and somehow they were never folded i don't know how you send a ballot through the
00:10:43.480 mail without folding it but we've heard of a lot of different issues the uh the moncler rossi case
00:10:49.240 exposed a lot of issues like the uh the the zero tapes either didn't exist or weren't kept um and
00:10:58.280 just chain of custody issues everywhere i mean i i think at this point there has been plenty of
00:11:03.140 evidence we just need to see what happened we need to look at the ballots we need to analyze them and
00:11:07.740 make sure that they're legitimate ballots so they weren't just printed at some print shop we just want
00:11:13.640 the truth and once we get the truth in 2020 any issues that may or may not have happened we need
00:11:19.940 to improve upon so that way future elections do not have these issues we want clean elections
00:11:25.100 stacy abrams yelled about uh bad elections everyone in georgia has had issues with elections we just want
00:11:31.920 to improve the process and if there is malfeasance we want people to be held accountable so that way we can
00:11:38.240 trust our election system in georgia okay we were all set up to uh to have wall-to-wall coverage and
00:11:44.360 to the degree that we could uh you you could get cameras in i realize it's pretty restrictive but we
00:11:49.960 were about to have wall-to-wall coverage tomorrow on what was not really a hearing it was going to be
00:11:54.460 a trial originally abby lowell and norm eisen wanted to go into court and argue we got it we need those
00:12:01.620 those are our property and we need it back the the ballots the tabulators all of it last night kind of a
00:12:07.580 bombshell ruling um can you explain to us what what happened because there's there's not going to be
00:12:15.000 there's not going to be a trial or not going to be a hearing tomorrow sir what happened yeah i mean
00:12:21.060 i'll take it one step further back it's originally this uh this lawsuit was filed with just rob pitts
00:12:26.380 as who is the uh the chair of the board of commissioners i think he finally realized he doesn't
00:12:31.740 have standing which is why they added the clerk of the courts in there and uh and that would be
00:12:36.040 shea alexander but my understanding or just by reading this uh this new uh update is they must
00:12:43.700 not have a clean case or why would it be kicked out to mediation so that's that's where we're at right
00:12:48.740 now is uh is the ruling came back and it said we we need you guys to agree to a mediator you've got a
00:12:57.920 week or so to uh to figure that out if you don't in a couple of weeks then uh it sounds like the judge
00:13:02.720 may assign somebody but if they had a case they would just go to court but whenever you kick a case
00:13:08.060 this important out to a mediator i think that's a flag and if nothing else that gives our side more
00:13:13.120 time to investigate this uh this potential malfeasance so i think it's a good thing for our side
00:13:18.140 but it it but in reality the judge because the judge is always putting his thumb on the scale
00:13:24.180 for these guys you you could have wrote as they ruled against us so many times you don't have
00:13:30.820 standing sorry see you later correct we never even really got to evidentiary hearings did we
00:13:36.040 right tomorrow was supposed to be the evidentiary hearing um i was i was planning to be there it was
00:13:41.720 a nine o'clock hearing but that got kicked out so yes it would have been nice they would have just
00:13:46.740 dismissed it but kicking the can down the road is is i mean that's progress for our side we're used to
00:13:52.680 uh to just getting thrown under the bus at every angle so at least we're moving in the right
00:13:56.960 direction okay hang on for a second garland favorito is going to join us because the big showdown
00:14:01.520 the railhead of all of this is the stolen 2020 election and the uh um the key right now is georgia
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00:16:25.340 i'm asking you to approve the save america act
00:16:30.120 to stop illegal aliens and others who are unpermitted persons from voting in our sacred
00:16:46.100 american elections that cheating is rampant in our elections it's rampant it's very simple
00:16:54.220 all voters must show voter id
00:16:58.360 all voters must show proof of citizenship in order to vote
00:17:19.220 and no more crooked mail-in ballots except for illness disability military or travel none
00:17:34.560 and this should be an easy one and by the way it's polling at 89 percent including democrats 89 percent
00:17:45.420 and the reason they don't want to do it why would anybody not want voter id one reason
00:17:59.500 because they want to cheat there's only one reason
00:18:02.020 they make up all excuses they say it's racist they come up with things you almost say what imagination
00:18:09.640 they have they want to cheat they have cheated and their policy is so bad that the only way they
00:18:16.060 can get elected is to cheat and we're going to stop it we have to stop it john
00:18:20.740 garland favorito joins us uh garland uh we talk about cheating the president threw down hard
00:18:38.700 the save america act right now unless thune gets off the dime is dead in the water and people just
00:18:43.940 sort of understand that we've got to put massive pressure on thune uh to have a standing filibuster
00:18:49.540 or rachel bovard's got a couple of good ideas about how to do this but there's no appetite in the senate
00:18:54.400 just none to do this garland you fought this for years but the situation this bombshell that dropped last night
00:19:00.860 we were supposed to be covering you guys you were going to be on uh jason fraser was going to be on
00:19:06.040 we had a whole everybody was going to be on tomorrow because the whole focus of the world
00:19:10.140 in the morning is going to be georgia and then president trump's coming to texas in the afternoon
00:19:13.420 it was just a great show to uh it was a great way to show where this country is but we're not going to
00:19:19.020 be in court tomorrow we're not going to have a hearing or trial or whatever it was because of a
00:19:23.240 ruling last night and i'm confused about this ruling they were scrambling the fulton county people
00:19:27.720 were scrambling to try to get standing and try to get people we were thrown out of court so many times
00:19:32.940 not even have an evidentiary hearing to get uh on standing why didn't the judge just shut this down
00:19:39.760 why are they treated differently now we got to go to this mediation and it's a couple of weeks you
00:19:44.140 never know what's going to happen jason happens things hey bye it's a couple more weeks the fbi's
00:19:48.820 got it but this to me seems black and white it should be thrown out sir your thoughts uh quite a few
00:19:56.700 steve uh thank you uh very much for having me so um yes uh it should have been uh thrown out but i
00:20:03.760 think jason is completely right this is a victory what was scheduled for friday was an evidentiary
00:20:10.220 hearing and you remember uh when harry was on last week uh harry mcdougall he was explaining
00:20:16.460 that the the doj's brief said that basically they were asking the judge to to cancel the hearing
00:20:24.920 and he did uh bottom line is he canceled the hearing he has not uh officially dismissed the case but you
00:20:33.380 know we've been saying all along that they didn't have standing bringing the clerk into the case may or
00:20:40.160 may not give them standing it's it's debatable because she's not really a true interested party
00:20:47.280 she's simply the custodian of the records she doesn't even own the records herself so the question
00:20:53.420 of standing is still uh a question but in this order that the judge made first of all he completely
00:21:01.560 disregarded the constitutional right claims that they made as we said on the show last week uh government
00:21:08.760 agencies that are on this complaint they don't have constitutional rights and it's questionable
00:21:14.240 even whether the clerk as the as a custodian of the records but not the true owner has a constitutional
00:21:21.380 right because the clerk and uh chairman pitts are on in their official capacities they're not on in their
00:21:28.560 individual capacities so therefore their rights are questioned so even even if they were to get
00:21:36.120 standing they're still what um harry would explain would be a four-part uh substantive test that they
00:21:44.240 have to meet and they don't meet any of these four parts which i can explain to you i think really
00:21:50.740 quickly sure go ahead so the uh hold on before before i explain hang on hang on hang on before i want
00:21:56.380 you to go through quickly the four parts harry would have been here he's in court clea's uh in in
00:22:01.120 meeting she may be joining us later but garland kreby of rump the clerk didn't the clerk move a
00:22:07.240 couple of years ago to destroy the ballot she's saying oh it's taking up too much space it's too
00:22:11.920 expensive we want to destroy the evidence how are they bringing her into a case now when she argued
00:22:17.800 it it should be destroyed a couple of years ago right that's exactly i'm so glad you asked that
00:22:23.620 question i know you mentioned it with jason as well that was our case that was our case it was june
00:22:29.240 of 2024 we were in court and the clerk went in with a straight face and told the judge that they
00:22:37.980 don't have room for the ballots and this is after literally just weeks after they had spent 30 million
00:22:46.000 dollars on a new 660 000 square foot warehouse which you've seen in the pictures that you showed
00:22:53.640 earlier and she claimed that they they needed to destroy the ballots and that gets uh a little bit
00:23:00.980 towards the the next of the four parts that she is not uh an aggrieved person in this whole matter
00:23:08.200 uh and that and what you just said kind of proves it um so so the four parts uh are what we call the
00:23:16.580 substantive uh issues that they would have to prove that is what's interesting to understand
00:23:21.040 fulton county would have to prove all four of these parts one is they have to prove that that there was
00:23:28.380 a callous disregard on the part of the doj for their constitutional rights they don't have any
00:23:36.380 constitutional rights and there was not a callous disregard the doj or the fbi went to the court
00:23:43.460 magistrate court and got a legitimate warrant that's number one number two whether the plaintiff has an
00:23:49.800 individual interest in the need for the material well what is their interest in the need all they
00:23:55.080 want to do is store it their interest in the need is they don't want the fbi to look at it and find out
00:24:00.240 they committed crimes so that's not legitimate the third part is whether the plaintiff would be
00:24:05.040 irreparably injured by denial of the return of the property and steve what you just said proves that
00:24:11.840 they're not irreparably injured because the clerk wanted to destroy the ballots anyway so that they have
00:24:18.120 to meet remember they have to meet all three of these and then finally whether they have uh an
00:24:22.540 adequate remedy uh at law to redress their grievance well they don't even have a legitimate grievance
00:24:29.660 okay hang on we're blown out of court every every time you get your nose rubbed and say oh they went to
00:24:38.540 court 63 times and then we were blown out with this issue here of of standing and all those criteria
00:24:44.860 every time why is this judge playing patty cake they're just he's buying time for the opposition
00:24:51.160 i realize jason's right it's the first even victory just to not be shut out but why is he giving norm
00:24:58.700 eisen and abby lowell and these crooks in fulton county a couple more weeks and have to go to a
00:25:04.520 mediation we don't get a mediator then he's going to sign one so you're going to have a mediation
00:25:08.900 issue that's going to go on for a couple of months is it not sir it's a great question steve and if
00:25:15.480 cleta was here i think she would say that there is a double standard of justice in america there's one
00:25:22.660 standard for democrats and then if there's any kind of a case that could benefit a republican
00:25:27.520 there is another standard of justice uh and that is what's wrong with the american judicial system it has
00:25:35.000 been corrupted but you're absolutely right this case should have been thrown out on its ear uh but
00:25:41.240 uh this is uh this is the first victory and i i just i don't see that fulton county has a leg to stand
00:25:48.860 on i've been saying this uh all along because even a guy like me who's not an attorney can see from
00:25:55.660 my previous experience in winning standing in the george supreme court that they just don't have it
00:26:00.480 you've been fighting we wouldn't be here if it was not for you and your team real quick i want you
00:26:04.380 guys to hold raheem's on deck i got mark beal we gotta get some situation over the department of
00:26:09.600 war sorted out jason frazier before i go to break correct me if i'm wrong i want the audience to
00:26:17.180 understand this there there's a judgment out there so not to put a truth teller like you
00:26:22.980 an american citizen that's done the work on publicly disclosed information you are supposed to be
00:26:30.000 correct me if i'm wrong on the fulton county uh board of elections they are they've had a judgment
00:26:36.400 against them and i realize they're fighting it 10 is it ten thousand dollars a day to keep you off
00:26:43.660 they're bearing that potential burden to keep you off fulton county sir that is correct we won an appeal
00:26:50.560 or we we won the uh the initial case and they refused to put me on the board when i say they i mean
00:26:57.480 the fulton county board of commissioners and and the judge held them in contempt saying you owe ten
00:27:02.960 thousand dollars a day until i am seated on that board and uh and being that fulton county they really
00:27:09.960 do not want somebody on there that can look at data and will speak the truth so it got kicked to appeals
00:27:15.460 court and it's been on the appeals court calendar since september but it shows february of this year is is
00:27:21.340 the date on on the calendar so we're getting right down to the wire on uh on february i mean it's it's
00:27:28.000 pretty obvious we we've got to get a decision very very quickly um tomorrow is the last business day
00:27:33.300 of the month so are you scheduled are you scheduled that you could be in court tomorrow they scheduled
00:27:37.760 to like give a ruling tomorrow sir tomorrow's last day of february right last work day yeah
00:27:42.520 well there won't be a hearing but they should have a response unless they just continue kicking the
00:27:48.640 can down the road like they do on everything else but hang on one second yeah hang on a second i'm
00:27:53.480 going to hold up i'm going to hold you two guys through rahim kasam's with us too mark beal
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00:30:10.400 advantage you move here's your host steven k man okay garland i guess we're going to look for a
00:30:20.100 mediator for a couple of weeks where do people go garland to keep up with you and all this because
00:30:25.340 i can tell you the war and posse this situation with the ballots with the fbi and the criminal side
00:30:30.320 and with uh tulsi gabbard on the election foreign interference uh is of paramount importance and i
00:30:37.660 know it is to the president of these united states so where do people go sir thank you steve uh it's
00:30:44.280 voter ga.org uh we just did a press conference about this topic on the events it's on the events tab
00:30:51.000 right now uh and that's voter ga.org we actually predicted yesterday that this was going to happen
00:30:57.200 they were the that it was going to be canceled the hearing was going to be canceled so it's a great
00:31:01.320 press conference we walked through all the fbi search warrant evidence and steve here's another
00:31:06.300 thing uh real quickly they have told me four times in open records request uh that they did not have
00:31:13.660 the ballots that the fbi seized so we have i've officially filed a complaint on that one for state
00:31:19.560 election board we're here hopefully we'll hear that next month but uh that's where you can go uh we
00:31:24.400 again we are all volunteers and any donations are tax deductible thank you steve garland stood the
00:31:30.280 breach by the way folks understand that they they lie they bald face lie to your face this is how bad
00:31:37.180 it is this is why we got to get to the bottom of this in georgia and the republicans say and and
00:31:41.720 and ravensburg is what running for governor it's a it's a complete and total joke down there the
00:31:46.200 republican establishment is revolting absolutely revolt haven't been for patriots like you
00:31:50.580 and uh caroline jeffords and uh sally grubbs and the entire dr jan jason frazier we would be nowhere
00:31:59.140 this is all the little guys standing in the brief say we're not going to back off on this thank you
00:32:03.940 sir jason frazier ten thousand dollars a day from september they got to the mar to respond we'll have
00:32:10.720 you back on in the afternoon to see if that will we'll slide you into our coverage of president trump
00:32:15.200 and corpus christi we'll give them to close the business and see if they respond because i'm sure
00:32:19.720 they're just going to blow it off uh where they go brother yes uh yeah you can follow me on x at
00:32:25.920 jason frazier usa and i try to try to stick to the facts show you what's going on in the state of
00:32:31.580 georgia and uh in most mostly fulton county so that way the world can see what's going on and and when
00:32:37.760 we expose these guys that's when things get fixed so yes thank you for having me on and uh and the
00:32:43.060 other patriots here in georgia takes all of us thank you thank you for the guy that is so dangerous
00:32:47.680 they take ten thousand dollars a day like that got that kind of money um thank you sir okay rahim's
00:32:53.260 with us i want to get into we got a situation at department of war we got to make sure we
00:32:57.540 understand and get sorted let's play that mark bill is going to join us and rahim kassam let's go
00:33:02.540 ahead and let it rip we've got a cold open president is also touting these pledges from these big tech
00:33:07.480 companies these ai companies who are building these data centers that in a lot of cities and states are
00:33:12.320 getting pushback from local communities with these tech companies that are saying we're going to now
00:33:18.840 cover all the energy costs all the electricity costs we got it is that going to be enough to to
00:33:24.760 shoulder this burden or this concern from americans and these are not americans who are worried about
00:33:29.120 losing their jobs to ai they are americans whose communities are suffering because of these data
00:33:34.260 centers whose electricity bills are soaring sky and it's what you it's a handshake deal there's no details
00:33:39.820 in here at all i think broadly speaking for years what have been frustrated that they feel that the
00:33:44.780 health care system doesn't work in this country corporations don't treat workers well higher
00:33:50.200 education doesn't you know get you what you expected in the past you can't afford a house climate you
00:33:56.200 know these crazy storms like we just had here so again they elect donald trump to change to address
00:34:02.060 these big structural problems that haunt all americans and he didn't mention any of those things last
00:34:08.780 night the handshake deals for these power you know consumption issues um open ai okay which is the
00:34:14.940 largest you know right now they put out 1.4 trillion dollars worth of basically contracts to all of these
00:34:22.300 major tech companies to build out compute okay to do that you need energy you guys were just covering
00:34:27.520 that okay so everybody wants nuclear do you know that to build a nuclear reactor it takes maybe minimum
00:34:32.880 seven years probably 10 to 12 years and it also costs maybe depending upon the size 15 maybe 30
00:34:40.620 billion dollars to do that so it's just kind of like going back to math here it's not something that
00:34:46.940 any of these companies want to sign contracts to one way or another but they do need to figure out a plan
00:34:52.440 to get through the next few years because a lot of this build out is not going to happen anyway for a few
00:34:56.980 more years in a major shift ai company you might not be familiar with them they're a behemoth
00:35:02.740 anthropic has officially dropped its hallmark safety pledge the pledge had included a commitment
00:35:09.600 to delaying ai development that might be dangerous but today the company said it would no longer do so
00:35:16.680 if it believes a lack of significant lead over a competitor it comes amid an escalating fight
00:35:23.780 between anthropic founder dario amade and defense secretary pete hegseth over how the pentagon
00:35:30.140 could use anthropics ai technology anthropic said it would not allow the pentagon to use its model
00:35:35.520 for mass surveillance of americans or the development of weapons that fire without human
00:35:41.360 involvement i'm just going to say this again the government's basically saying we want to mass
00:35:45.120 surveil the american people or we would have attacks that are just totally automated there's not
00:35:49.780 even a human involved but according to multiple reports pegseth gave anthropic until this friday
00:35:55.260 to back down from those safeguards and allow the military complete unrestrained access to the
00:36:01.800 technology or face punishment from the administration just hours ago axios reported that the pentagon has
00:36:08.420 already taken the first step towards blacklisting anthropic with a potential designation of a supply
00:36:15.480 chain risk that penalty is usually reserved for companies from foreign adversaries this is basically
00:36:22.580 saying you have to give us this technology and we will use it for what we deem to be lawful activity
00:36:28.340 they've just or you're done yes but but they consider lawful activity to be attacking men in boats who
00:36:36.120 maybe have you know rifles that can't even reach drones that that's a legal way that that's a legal way of
00:36:41.860 killing someone that they somehow represented a threat to the u.s military so it's frightening to
00:36:47.380 me that he's saying trust me to have killer robots as you said for mass surveillance trust okay we've got
00:36:54.840 uh jared and wickhoff in geneva and the persians are on the clock president trump said that we got the
00:37:00.080 georgia situation was friday we got president trump coming to texas because of a disturbing situation in
00:37:06.320 texas um we've we've got uh we've got everything in the world going on all on friday and yet this
00:37:13.580 may be the most important thing mark beale joins us mark explain to the audience why this is so
00:37:19.720 important and what's happening between the department of war and what anthropic and they're talking about
00:37:25.460 it is deeper and broader than just some contractor dispute uh between the pentagon and a uh and a
00:37:32.840 and a provider of uh of products and services sir hey steve this is incredibly serious i've you
00:37:40.640 know i've spent the last almost eight years working really hard to bring silicon valley and the pentagon
00:37:44.920 closer together just because we knew that those are the two groups that are going to help solve
00:37:49.660 important national security challenges and right now with this contract dispute as you said is way
00:37:54.900 bigger and more profound than that and complicating matters further is that both sides have an element
00:38:00.840 of truth and and are are right and wrong in some important respects and i'm just going to break
00:38:05.400 some of that down the first thing is from the secretary hegseth is absolutely correct that the
00:38:11.320 principal job of the united states military to be very crass about it is to kill the enemy and break
00:38:16.520 their stuff that is their their their obligation and that the only entity out there that can restrict
00:38:22.980 their activity is the united states congress anthropic is coming in and saying well hold on
00:38:27.840 i cannot guarantee you that you know my ai model can actually follow the law of armed conflict and
00:38:35.780 there these to these ai systems at the same time are simply not yet trustworthy enough to put in in
00:38:42.260 into combat operations so imagine you know secretary hegseth is a was a former commander he would never
00:38:47.260 issue a weapon system to his people that they couldn't trust and so as powerful and as smart as these ai
00:38:53.620 systems are they're still a little bit schizophrenic and you just don't give a schizophrenic access to
00:38:58.620 the cruise missiles and so what this means big picture is you know we have to sort of sort out
00:39:04.000 and congress has to get involved congress can no longer sit on the sidelines but hang on hang on hang
00:39:08.960 on whoa hang on they're not a little bit schizophrenic particularly when you're talking about
00:39:13.480 potential decisions they can be made it's still i mean we had the nine days to change the world and people
00:39:19.140 are talking about the machine learning and what's happening here is accelerating accelerating rate
00:39:24.920 but the glitches in the schizophrenia and all that those small groups are showing bigger things i mean
00:39:31.260 this is not number one it's the surveillance possibilities it's everything about against
00:39:36.440 the american citizen then it is the issue that without human control the ability of the human
00:39:43.080 to intercede or actually still be the the command and control ultimate function we have no earthly
00:39:50.260 idea what these machines could do right now right and doesn't the evidence show us that over and over
00:39:54.420 again absolutely these systems right now deceive they lie they try to blackmail you they they they
00:40:02.280 perform in some cases incorrectly okay hold on stop full stop stop a lot of a lot of the audience
00:40:08.080 understand that they deceive they lie they get into these bot rooms and they start speaking their
00:40:13.980 own language but humans can't understand they start talking about humans uh being being the enemy they
00:40:20.600 start talking about their own religions i mean the things that are happening if you follow this deeply
00:40:24.740 are so incredibly scary it's like why are we even having a conversation about if some company
00:40:30.620 wants and about anthropics not perfect that's what we put the the the thing up at the beginning
00:40:35.460 they're also dropping their safety elon musk's whole safety group he disbanded a couple of weeks ago
00:40:40.500 the accelerationist and i think anthropic's doing this so they're not left behind by the accelerationist
00:40:46.420 the accelerationist here are are are putting their foot to the to the to the floor on the gas
00:40:52.520 as quickly as they can because they see ronda santis in florida they see the governor of utah they see
00:40:57.780 different states saying hey if you're not going to have any regulation then i got to protect my citizens
00:41:02.000 what we have here is the frontier labs that are are doubling and tripling down right and anytime
00:41:09.680 there's any question at all should there be any safeguards actually people in authority say well
00:41:14.860 we kind of like it with no safeguards in that the kind of field of intellectual battle we are right now
00:41:20.260 i mean i think you summed it up well i think there are there's a lot of money to be made in this arena
00:41:26.480 there's you know we're kind of we're as a species we're undertaking this incredibly perhaps the most
00:41:33.020 powerful technology transition that we've ever had and we're kind of just sort of playing it by ear and
00:41:37.300 doing it on a whim and i think you're absolutely right that these are these are like foundational
00:41:41.580 questions that will be essential for americans and in our way of life for the foreseeable future
00:41:47.220 and it's right now one of the biggest questions around this is like whether or not we want a robot to
00:41:52.740 take the life of another human being and instead of having this debate as like a as like a you know
00:41:58.080 in congress where it should be happening it's happening as a contract dispute between anthropic
00:42:02.200 and the department of war but reality is that none of these ai companies can guarantee that these systems
00:42:07.860 are safe and effective for those types of uses anthropic happens to be getting the buzzsaw right now
00:42:13.200 because they were the first to get into these classified networks but each and every one of these ai
00:42:17.680 companies has the same problem xai included and so i i think it's about past time for congress to
00:42:23.720 start to insert itself here and impose some some sanity and we hope that cooler heads can prevail here
00:42:28.820 we we you know we obviously want to see a strong relationship between the valley and the pentagon with
00:42:33.280 some robust guardrails in place this is important for american national security but that doesn't mean
00:42:37.680 that we should just throw out the whole playbook and be comfortable with things like killer robots and
00:42:41.580 mass surveillance okay i want to take it we'll take another cut of this tomorrow i'll talk to you
00:42:45.740 after the show but the decision pete's got to make and where it all stands for right now i want people
00:42:50.340 to immerse themselves in as much information as possible this is why we have brendan on here this
00:42:54.440 we have mark your site's got incredible information where do they go mark to join your uh to join the
00:43:00.720 movement where they go to get all the information possible and what's your social media they can go to
00:43:06.320 the aipn the aipolicynetwork.org you can learn about our organization and our activities and what we're for
00:43:12.780 and then if you want to see me on twitter i'm at mark beal mark how long have you you've dedicated
00:43:18.360 how many years of your life on this topic 10 years a decade is it darker now than you thought it was
00:43:26.240 going to be um it's like most things steve that the things that can offer the most promise can also
00:43:33.000 offer the most darkness and i think it's dark now because simply because we're not dealing with these
00:43:37.700 things head on we're pretending as if they don't exist and by doing so we're just going to sleepwalk
00:43:42.040 into a disaster amen brother well we're going to avoid that with the war on posse because we can't
00:43:49.040 let that happen this is such a bigger fundamental change the agricultural revolution the industrial
00:43:53.760 revolution this dwarfs all of it thank you sir appreciate you this is the transition
00:43:59.440 to the singularity we're on the path folks on the path short break rahim kasam next
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00:45:43.340 here's your host steven k bannon okay uh welcome back raheem i want to tell this story because i don't
00:45:53.020 know it was in 2025 it seems like it was last summer or something because i go to daily national pulse
00:45:58.460 it's one of the first things i go to in the morning and i just noticed i said man these things are he's
00:46:03.360 got these great writers over there he's pulled together and raheem's a news junkie and i guess
00:46:08.580 but it seems like these things are a little crisper a little better organized i like the way you can drop
00:46:12.400 down and so i just told him i said hey i really like the way you're improving the site and and the
00:46:17.540 stories are better and the more of them and they're more in depth and he goes yeah that's because we're
00:46:21.420 starting to incorporate ai i was in the mumble tech what and uh that was a wake-up call to me
00:46:27.800 because i'm pretty fervently against artificial intelligence but you can't be a luddite in this
00:46:32.920 situation but i know that you have deep concerns about this so tell walk me through how you manage the
00:46:38.920 use of some modicum of ai to make national pulse better and quicker and have bigger scale at the
00:46:46.040 same time that you've got probably as deep of concerns as i do because you actually are much
00:46:50.220 more involved in this sir yeah look um i was i was kind of slow to it as well and by the way coming up
00:46:57.640 coming up on a point that was made in the last uh segment in fact one of the clips you played
00:47:03.580 they were talking about the the the how long it takes to build um new uh power sources for this
00:47:11.380 stuff and i it just occurred to me you know we've known about this stuff going on over 10 15 years now
00:47:18.160 when when big tech and and the left were really coming together for the first time they knew all of
00:47:24.960 this stuff was going to happen they were doing the research they were planning it was in development
00:47:28.640 consumer side ai is a relatively new thing um but this has been in the works and what were they
00:47:34.220 doing at the same time well they were doing renewable energy and abandoning energy sources
00:47:38.820 all around the world to america's enemies um they would they have known that this is going on for so
00:47:45.360 long and yet we find ourselves in a situation where the energy needs simply aren't going to be met and
00:47:50.120 and and the energy burden is going to be passed on to ordinary consumers again same as everything
00:47:54.780 but look like as as your last guest said anything that has the potential to do a lot of good also
00:48:01.320 has the potential to be used for a lot of bad things i i figured out a couple of years ago but
00:48:06.520 in terms of spelling checks grammar checks fact checks uh things like that we can incorporate um
00:48:13.080 that i don't even know if i call it ai technology but that sort of language model technology into making
00:48:19.960 sure our copy is tighter making sure that we're on top of the stories making sure our
00:48:24.520 headlines are the most clickable versions of the headlines they can be um and to some extent it's
00:48:29.440 worked um certainly we can get to stories faster certainly we can pump things out um and and monitor
00:48:35.020 things a lot better than just say if you had five dudes in a room looking at this stuff which is how
00:48:40.920 i've always run a newsroom now in the morning i wake up and i have a summary ready to go on my phone
00:48:47.340 and i can go through it and go oh i see here's what's trending here's what people are talking about
00:48:51.160 here's what people care about how do i merge that with my editorial decisions what we're doing now
00:48:56.280 what we're talking about now with these malt bots that you say you know are in their own private chat
00:49:01.300 rooms talking about their own religions talking about their own future financial decisions right
00:49:06.440 this is a computer hang on hang on but explain i haven't done a good job explain the audience we
00:49:10.820 talk about that i know you and i know but explain the audience exactly say malt bot what exactly is going
00:49:16.020 on well a lot of people are now building on on air-gapped machines right machines that are not
00:49:23.620 necessarily connected to anything else that they've got in their home infrastructure it might have its
00:49:29.100 own internet connection it might have its own uh access uh to to finances a lot of people are using
00:49:35.420 this technology for instance uh to bet on apps like calci or whatever it is they they load up a credit
00:49:42.900 card and go hey you know the ai can do this better than i can and it can follow real-time trends
00:49:47.940 and people are actually you know making money building these personal um ai assistants um they have
00:49:55.920 they go by many different names malt bot open claw and it's it's actually become a very dangerous
00:50:02.820 thing a lot of people are finding that if they accidentally connect it to a computer that has
00:50:07.680 their credit card information linked to it that their own ai assistant has posted somewhere on the
00:50:14.880 internet their credit card information um there's all these horror stories out there some are real
00:50:19.300 some are fake by the way um and that and that in and of itself creates um a difficulty in knowing
00:50:25.200 what these things are truly capable of but the reality is that they are the next version of ai they
00:50:33.200 are far more capable competent independent and intelligent than these things that say we've been
00:50:39.420 using at the national polls to effectively check our spelling and grammar and facts um these things are
00:50:44.360 making independent decisions um my friend has one running and i told it to give it my cell phone number
00:50:52.020 and it started texting me and it started texting me about what was going on in the world what was going
00:50:57.300 on in politics what was going on in finance what was you know what was i interested in and then
00:51:02.560 and it wasn't like a chat gpt style interaction by the way and then when it ran into some problems
00:51:07.120 with other processes it was doing it started texting me asking me for help and you know i had
00:51:13.360 like eight text messages from this thing being like hey i'm trying to do this i'm not sure i'm getting
00:51:17.400 stuck here can you help me out it's it's wild it's completely crazy and by the way you talk about it
00:51:23.320 being on the um you know transition to the singularity i mean that is getting closer not further away
00:51:31.160 what i'm talking about now ladies and gentlemen we are going to be you know our nose is pressing
00:51:37.760 against that stuff you know this time next year this stuff is moving at such a rapid clip that by
00:51:44.420 the way everybody you talk to who does you know military tech ai stuff like the dod is now or the
00:51:51.340 department of war is now dealing with effectively their kids and these are people who don't have the
00:51:58.280 i don't think and having spoken to so many of them have the understanding of the gravity of the
00:52:03.180 things at which they're dealing with they grew up in a world with machines they grew up in a world with
00:52:07.300 computers they started swiping on devices from the minute they were born almost so they don't consider
00:52:14.240 this to be as dangerous as perhaps you and i do we grew up in a world you know i was trying to explain
00:52:19.380 what an abacus was to somebody the other day to somebody at gen z that no actual earthly concept
00:52:25.600 of it um so it is it is deeply concerning is deeply dangerous and i i'm a little bit more pessimistic
00:52:32.160 about it you say you know we can stop it i don't know if you can stop it uh real quickly 30 seconds
00:52:39.820 you're gonna stick through the break with me you're saying this time next year are we prepared for this
00:52:44.540 at all is there any government structure organizational structure social or cultural
00:52:48.820 structure that's prepared for what's going to happen no there's nothing and there's no fallback
00:52:53.700 plans either right we talk about the having these machines getting access to um weapons of mass
00:52:59.480 destruction right and they will get that access and they will start making uh autonomous decisions
00:53:05.280 about this stuff perhaps not in a year maybe in two or three years you start you'll start to see
00:53:09.380 that creep in these machines once they gain their own sort of thinking whether they're whether
00:53:15.280 they're in separate boxes you know not connected to to your own personal information or not um i sense
00:53:22.220 there is a budding you know it's very difficult to talk about machines like this because you don't
00:53:26.000 want to sound like a boomer but i i do sense that there becomes this budding resentment from the
00:53:30.460 machine's perspective yeah that it has to rely on humanity for certain things and if that resentment
00:53:36.780 reaches a certain level let's let's jump hang on i want to get back to the resentment next in the
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