Bannon's War Room - Episode 5173： Negotiations Continue With Iran; Nationalizing The 2026 Election

00:00:00.000 U.S. and Iranian negotiating teams are meeting today for another round of high-stake talks in

00:00:05.160 Geneva, Switzerland. Now, during his stead of the Union address, President Trump had said he'd yet

00:00:10.220 to hear Iranians promise that their country would never have a nuclear weapon. Though hours before 1.00

00:00:15.560 that speech, Iran's foreign minister posted a message online saying that Tehran will never

00:00:20.840 seek to develop one. Secretary of State Marco Rubio talked about today's meetings with Caribbean

00:00:27.960 leaders, and after that meeting, this is what some of what he said.

00:00:33.580 Well, I think tomorrow Steve and Jared will be there. I think they're on their way there now,

00:00:37.020 actually. And the president was very clear last night that he always prefers diplomacy.

00:00:41.620 But I want you to understand, and everyone should know, that Iran poses a very great threat to the 1.00

00:00:45.880 United States and has for a very long time. They are in possession, first and foremost,

00:00:50.640 after their nuclear program was obliterated. They were told not to try to restart it,

00:00:54.800 and here they are. You can see them always trying to rebuild elements of it. They're not enriching

00:00:59.100 right now, but they're trying to get to the point where they ultimately can.

00:01:02.460 The other thing I would point you to, however, is that Iran possesses a very large number of

00:01:08.100 ballistic missiles, particularly short-range ballistic missiles that threaten the United

00:01:13.040 States and our bases in the region and our partners in the region, and all of our bases in the UAE,

00:01:18.760 Qatar and Bahrain. And they also possess naval assets that threaten shipping and try to threaten

00:01:26.540 the U.S. Navy. So I want everyone to understand that beyond just a nuclear program, they possess

00:01:31.860 these conventional weapons that are solely designed to attack America and attack Americans

00:01:37.400 if they so choose to do so. These things have to be addressed.

00:01:40.820 It felt to us today that, you know, a moment ago, all of the nuclear capability was obliterated,

00:01:48.860 and now they're a week away from making a bomb. It felt a lot like the run-up to Iraq when the 0.66

00:01:55.260 terms about what Iraq was doing and the threat it posed to us just kept escalating and escalating 0.99

00:02:01.360 and escalating.

00:02:02.480 It is that same pattern, and that some of those statements are exaggerated in terms of that they're

00:02:08.180 going to have an ICBM that can hit the United States. So that's the concern here. And yet we

00:02:13.720 have these talks that are going on in Geneva. They just ended this afternoon. There's positive

00:02:18.620 news reports coming out of this. You have the Iranian foreign minister and the foreign minister

00:02:22.980 of Oman who've been pushing, saying there can be a deal here, saying they went very well.

00:02:27.280 And one U.S. official, at least, told Axios that the talks were positive. And there's talks about

00:02:33.080 maybe a meeting next week to continue this. The cautionary note is that there were talks going on

00:02:37.760 last year when the U.S. bombed Iran and the U.S. could bomb again.

00:02:42.420 Trump really doesn't care about Congress. He's all gas and no brakes. And I've said to you many

00:02:46.400 times, I think the most important story in the world is that he can do whatever he wants with

00:02:50.480 the most powerful military the world has ever seen. And that includes striking eight countries

00:02:54.940 already this year. He's already struck Iran without congressional approval, without the support

00:02:59.380 of the American public. So it seems very clear that he wants to hit Iran. And he's trying to build a 1.00

00:03:03.960 rationale behind it. We hear, you know, Iran's full of bad guys. Iran killed protesters. Iran 0.97

00:03:08.620 potentially has nukes. It's all building a case in support of war. And I think it's important 1.00

00:03:13.300 to underscore, he has forever war going on right now. I mean, it's almost entirely unchecked when it

00:03:18.160 comes to using our military, whether it's in Iran, striking another boat off the coast of Venezuela,

00:03:23.840 or continuing to deploy troops domestically. This is a really, really important point for Congress to

00:03:28.960 show if they're even paying attention and if they have any kind of spine whatsoever.

00:03:32.600 Because I think the State of the Union was like a checkbox. Like, you know, he maybe said, okay,

00:03:36.420 I'm just going to make my case here. And he thinks that's going to give him a blank check because

00:03:39.840 the table is set. And I think he's going to hit Iran sometime soon. 0.84

00:03:43.860 I mean, just in the way that they're trying to do with tariffs,

00:03:46.200 what is the likelihood or what is the talk within the White House about trying to declare

00:03:52.120 an emergency? The Washington Post is reporting about that memo. Is that something from your

00:03:57.260 reporting the White House would seriously, the president would seriously consider?

00:04:00.840 I have no reporting that Susie Wiles, his chief of staff, or deputy chief of staff,

00:04:05.860 James Blair, or others at the top echelons of the White House want to move forward with such an

00:04:11.940 effort. Again, they want to focus elsewhere on actual substantive issues here.

00:04:16.180 They're not the ones in charge.

00:04:17.160 That is the issue at play. Kurt Olson, who is the conspiracy theorist that has, you know,

00:04:22.000 was pushed forward, Fulton County, right, the criminal investigation through the FBI and Kash Patel,

00:04:27.420 he is working as a special government employee. Donald Trump has him essentially as his, quote,

00:04:31.740 election integrity czar. And so that is the issue here for people like Susie Wiles is the fact that 0.97

00:04:36.820 Donald Trump can turn to people like Kurt Olson, can turn to Cleta Mitchell. If Donald Trump wants

00:04:41.860 this, he can move forward. And that's where this executive order that we, along with our colleague

00:04:44.960 Jake Traylor, are reporting on is a very, you know, tempered executive order because it's just

00:04:49.640 focused on, you know, voter ID, something that generally the public could get behind.

00:04:52.800 Is Susie Wiles being an effective catcher in the rye here? That's basically the role she's playing, 1.00

00:04:57.480 trying to keep things off the president's desk, because once he sees them, once he has that

00:05:01.880 conversation.

00:05:03.060 Right. I'm told Steve Bannon is directly passing to a very close aid to the president, documents,

00:05:08.880 articles that essentially about our past stolen elections that have been rigged and about things

00:05:14.440 that he should be looking at, because this is an issue that he wants to be front and center in

00:05:17.720 voters' minds, that those are the documents and articles that are making their way to the

00:05:21.220 president. And we know how he operates. He simmers on these things. He posts about them

00:05:24.940 and they make their way into State of the Union addresses here. And ultimately,

00:05:28.860 Kash Patel still exists at the FBI. Tulsi Gabbard still exists at the Office of the Director of

00:05:33.440 National Intelligence here. So as long as Donald Trump has those types of allies in there and

00:05:37.520 wants these things to move forward, there is no reason to believe that others within the White 0.90

00:05:41.620 House, even the chief of staff, could stop him from moving forward and making these type of things.

00:05:46.020 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:05:53.740 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:05:58.940 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly

00:06:04.220 full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the

00:06:07.680 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:06:10.280 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,

00:06:17.040 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my

00:06:23.420 purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:30.640 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:06:34.060 It's Thursday, 26 February, Year of the Lord, 2026. Explosive story in the Washington Post

00:06:44.340 about the president potentially calling a national emergency about the upcoming election and about,

00:06:49.940 as John Solomon has been alluding to all week, revelations of the Chinese Communist Party's

00:06:56.740 direct involvement in the 2020 election. And names like Peter Tickton and others

00:07:01.740 working on an executive order, helping Kurt Olson with an executive order. We're going to get to

00:07:07.280 that in the bottom of the hour. Also, Neil McCabe has new reporting on the situation in Cuba. The

00:07:12.700 Cuban governor has just come out and accused the folks in the speedboat, four of whom are dead and

00:07:18.580 six are wounded, of being counter-revolutionaries. They list out their arms, et cetera, and get to the

00:07:23.580 White House with McCabe. But first, the path to war. I have Trita Parsi, Rabbi Willicki, and Kurt

00:07:31.860 Mills. I want to start with Trita. Trita, you came on the show last week and you argued to get this 1.00

00:07:37.560 thing moving forward. You actually recommended we can't do the Ayatollah or the Persians way of

00:07:43.040 negotiating, kind of indirect and passing notes. And Geneva might change that. The one thing I think

00:07:49.920 we do know, I believe there's been a follow-on meeting scheduled for Vienna, for Witkoff and

00:07:55.840 Jared Kushner on Monday. And also, I think there's some discussion about the Fifth Fleet or what remains

00:08:01.960 of the Fifth Fleet has been pulled out of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. What happened in Geneva today?

00:08:07.900 Are we on a path to actually get a deal? And President Trump has laid out a marker in his State

00:08:13.060 of the Union saying they cannot have possibly a nuclear weapon now or forever. Are we on the path

00:08:19.840 to a negotiated solution and peace? Or are we going to go down the path of at least some coercive

00:08:27.060 diplomacy, sir? So we don't have all the details yet, of course, just some press reporting. But by all

00:08:35.400 accounts, it appears to have been a positive meeting, but not yet a breakthrough. Some of these issues are

00:08:42.620 tough. The positions of the two sides are still, from the opening position, they've been very far

00:08:49.040 away from each other. So any expectation that there would be a quick breakthrough is unrealistic.

00:08:54.420 But it appears that there's commitment from both sides to move forward and they've made some progress.

00:08:59.460 And then to your first point, they have shifted towards some direct talks between the two sides

00:09:04.000 instead of this thing in which the Omanis are in the middle. But that's just one out of many things

00:09:11.300 that needs to get fixed in order to get this process right. One thing I think is positive is

00:09:16.380 that the president has said that he wants to hear the Iranians say clearly, in a completely undeniable

00:09:23.880 way, that they will not pursue nuclear weapons. They will not have it. Now, they've said that several times,

00:09:28.220 but now they're repeating it in a very clear way. It is apparently in the proposal that they sent to

00:09:34.040 the U.S. And they're doing it to show, essentially, this is what the president wants. Well, it's not a

00:09:39.980 problem. It's given. Now, when it comes to some of the more substantive things, of course, that's going

00:09:44.240 to be much, much more tricky. When you talk about their upfront saying that we won't have a nuclear

00:09:51.460 weapon, is that without the United States taking off any of the sanctions that they have today?

00:09:58.400 Because wouldn't that be, what you're talking about, if that's the case and it was in the cover

00:10:02.700 letter of the memo, on the first page of the memo, wouldn't that be a massive give for the

00:10:08.060 Iranians, for the Ayatollah? Actually, I don't think it is. I think Trump finds it as such, and I think

00:10:15.520 that's totally fine. But bottom line is the Iranians have constantly said that they're not pursuing nuclear

00:10:19.740 weapons. So the negotiations have not been about them giving up nuclear weapons that they don't

00:10:24.500 have. It's about making sure that they don't have a pathway towards building one by restricting their

00:10:30.880 program, making sure that there's certain things that they don't have, certain things that they

00:10:34.120 don't do, that they don't amass too large of a stockpile of enriched uranium, for instance, which is

00:10:40.940 the material that you need for a bomb, inspections that are as intrusive as possible, just to make sure

00:10:47.040 that all of their pathways to a bomb are prevented. If Trump can get this done, and I

00:10:51.960 actually believe that he can, if the focus remains on this issue, if the focus then goes off to missiles

00:10:57.740 or other things, the bans that are coming from the Israelis, etc., then this thing can very quickly go off

00:11:03.400 rail, and then unfortunately we will likely have a war. When you say likely have a war, do you think that'll just be

00:11:09.000 President Trump trying to do some core sort of diplomacy to get the more rational part of the

00:11:16.760 Iranian government back to the table, or do you think it devolves into something where you go down

00:11:21.940 a path, this thing spreads pretty quickly? I don't think the president's intention is to do something

00:11:27.780 that spreads in any way, shape, or form. I think it's quite clear that he wants to have clean, quick,

00:11:32.900 glorious victories, but I don't see that happening in this situation. The Iranians will very likely 1.00

00:11:38.720 respond. This is part of the reason why we have so many assets in the region right now, because they

00:11:43.460 have made it clear that they will respond. And I think the escalatory risk here is just so massive

00:11:48.720 that it would be very dangerous to go down that path. I see it as a lose-lose situation. Yes, undoubtedly,

00:11:54.100 the United States is the far more powerful party here, but it doesn't mean that the Iranians cannot

00:12:00.400 inflict tremendous amount of damage onto the United States, which at the end of the day would cause

00:12:05.900 this whole thing to end up becoming a losing thing for Donald Trump as well. So I think the best thing

00:12:10.420 is to avoid it, and the fact that these talks are continuing, seem to be getting more serious,

00:12:14.520 is in and of itself a positive sign. What about there is an element in the U.S. media, in the U.S.

00:12:22.540 you know, MAGA part of the media that says you can't trust the Iranians, you can't trust the

00:12:28.180 Persians, they may say one thing, but they'll do another. How do you respond to that? 1.00

00:12:33.080 Bottom line is none of these sides trust the other. The Iranians don't trust the U.S. either, 0.72

00:12:38.860 and they have their reasons, and the U.S. of course has its reason not to trust the Iranians.

00:12:42.760 That's why you need a deal in which you have verification as a very integral part of the deal.

00:12:48.320 That's also why you need to make sure that, you know, a lot of things are not given up front in

00:12:53.300 return for things that are given later on by the other side. And it's part of the reason the

00:12:57.700 Iranians probably will not accept that the sanctions relief will come, you know, a year

00:13:02.300 from now or something like that while they're expected to give a lot of things on the nuclear

00:13:05.920 front up front. Neither side should do that because the trust simply doesn't exist. And if we try to

00:13:10.580 design a deal along those lines, it simply won't work. But verification is absolutely essential in

00:13:17.580 all of this. That's the thing that can be used to overcome the legitimate mistrust that exists on

00:13:23.440 both sides. Jared's the architect of the Abraham Accords. He and Witkoff have at least gotten as far

00:13:31.520 as we've gotten with the Board of Peace and Gaza. Witkoff's been very involved, as Jared somewhat,

00:13:37.740 in the Ukraine situation. On a scale from one to 10, 10 being great, where do you rate our negotiating

00:13:44.020 team an ability to deal with a very tough and bureaucratic process, as you know, the Iranians 1.00

00:13:49.040 have? Again, it's impossible for me to put a number on it because we're still too early in the

00:13:54.900 process. It all depends on, you know, where we go from here and where we end up. But I think this

00:13:58.800 both Witkoff and Kushner are people who want a deal. I think that's crucial because what we've had in the

00:14:04.780 past is oftentimes negotiations in which is not even clear whether one side or both sides actually want

00:14:10.000 the deal. They're kind of exploring whether a deal is even desirable. I think both of them do want a

00:14:14.680 deal. I do believe the Iranians want a deal. The question is, do both sides have sufficiently realistic 0.85

00:14:20.780 expectations of what the other side can give? We oftentimes tend to forget on the American side,

00:14:26.920 the Iranians have politics too. It's not easy for them to just give everything or agree to, you know,

00:14:33.700 something that comes across to them as subjugation and surrender. In fact, I believe that for this

00:14:39.180 specific regime, surrender is worse than losing in a war. War, they think they can survive. Surrender,

00:14:46.040 they cannot survive.

00:14:47.860 Trita, hang on for one second. I'm going to hold you through the break because I want people to know

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00:16:22.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:26.660 Trita Parsi, give your location at Quincy in your social media and any closing thoughts

00:16:32.400 before you punch out. Yeah, people can reach us at the Quincy Institute's website, which is

00:16:37.180 quincyinst.org or on my social media, which is tparsi on X. Yeah, just the last thing to say, look,

00:16:45.000 I think the president really wants to get a deal. And I think it's clear, both sides, both the Iranians, 1.00

00:16:50.420 as well as the president, need to find some sort of a face-saving exit from what is really, you know,

00:16:55.680 a Mexican standoff right now. Yes, the United States undoubtedly is more powerful than Iran, 0.57

00:17:00.160 but a war would nevertheless be a lose-lose situation. I think the president understands

00:17:04.520 and that's why he wants to get a deal. Thank you, Trita. Look forward to seeing

00:17:08.560 tomorrow when we have more information, no doubt, over the weekend and Monday. Monday,

00:17:12.940 they meet in Vienna. Rabbi Rilecki, did the Persians succeed in what they always try to succeed in? 0.78

00:17:20.140 Let's get the next meeting and let's have a different location and we'll have a four or five

00:17:23.840 day gap and we'll just continue this and hopefully President Trump one day will go away.

00:17:30.160 That is the goal. Look, especially because the whole premise for American action now, like,

00:17:38.320 you know, if you ask yourself, like, you know, what's so, excuse me, what's so pressing?

00:17:43.100 It has to do with what happened with those protests. The further we get from the protests,

00:17:47.320 the less credible American military action is. So yeah, they're, you know, the longer the negotiations

00:17:54.560 take, you know, the better it is for the Persians. That's what they want out of this at this point. 0.97

00:18:01.460 What do you mean? But you're not saying that our military action would be contingent upon,

00:18:06.000 Scott Besson crushed their currency. Economic warfare did that and then they came out,

00:18:11.680 I guess you're saying when the president said, we'll have your back or something. Is that the

00:18:16.320 contingent?

00:18:16.860 Help is on the way was his line military commitment. Look, you know, he painted himself

00:18:22.760 into a corner. I said this last time I was on your show last week that the, the wisdom of saying help

00:18:28.900 is on the way is questionable. But the problem is that once Trump said that, uh, the, the Iranian

00:18:35.840 people saw that America had their back. Undoubtedly, undoubtedly more Iranians were killed in the street

00:18:42.420 by the regime because Trump said that. And, uh, that's something that, you know, and, and now

00:18:47.800 whether you like it or not, the way things work in the middle East, you know, saving face and having

00:18:52.160 honor, these are all things that are very important to the politics. And if, if America in the end does

00:18:58.240 not come to the aid of the Iranian people in the way that people pictured, it will be perceived again.

00:19:04.600 I'm not saying this is in America's best interest to do it, but it will be perceived as weakness on the

00:19:09.000 part of Donald Trump. So, you know, that's part of the calculation. It's unfortunate that that's part

00:19:13.460 of the calculation, but that's where we are, Steve. You know, I want to be very clear, uh, you know,

00:19:17.600 while in Israel, we are all in favor of this regime that has been trying to destroy us and investing all 0.68

00:19:23.340 of its resources to destroy us. We'd love to see it fall. That doesn't mean that, uh, you know,

00:19:29.180 everyone is looking forward to a war or even want strikes on Iran. I don't think, you know, I, I'm doubtful

00:19:34.120 as to whether military strikes are the way to bring down the regime altogether.

00:19:37.560 Um, I'm gonna get to that in a second. Uh, president Trump is pretty adamant at the state

00:19:42.280 of the union. He wants peace. He wants a deal, but it's gotta be a deal that has no possibility

00:19:47.360 of nuclear weapons and something that's enforceable. You've been pretty articulate

00:19:51.820 about, and, and, and also Netanyahu and others that you can't trust these guys. Anything you do

00:19:57.940 is just on a piece of paper. They're going to sign anything they want to, to, to, to get through

00:20:02.540 the Trump years. And then they're in power forever because there'll never be a Democrat

00:20:06.340 that would follow that would take action here to, to actually, uh, do regime change or eradicate

00:20:11.440 them. Is that the line of thinking basically the consensus thinking in Jerusalem and Tel

00:20:16.760 Aviv? Oh, for sure. The, the regime, the regime's sole goal, their sole definition of success

00:20:24.020 here, I'm not going to call it victory, but their sole definition of success is surviving

00:20:28.760 the Trump administration. Because so long as they can sell their oil to the Chinese Communist 1.00

00:20:32.720 Party, which they still are doing, uh, so long as they can do that, they still have cashflow.

00:20:38.820 And as long as they survive the Trump presidency, they know that whatever comes next is going

00:20:42.860 to be probably more favorable to them. And then all bets are off. They can continue along their

00:20:48.420 merry way. You know, you saw it after the 12 day war, while from, from an American perspective,

00:20:54.320 uh, that looked like a victory for the United States, for, for the West, for Israel, whatever

00:20:59.360 you want to say by destroying the Iranian nuclear facilities, but they interpreted it as victory

00:21:03.820 because the regime was still standing. They, these guys don't think in terms of election cycles. They

00:21:08.360 think very, very long-term and their goal is to survive the Trump presidency. And I believe,

00:21:13.380 and I laid this out in my most recent column in the Jerusalem post, we talked about it, Steve,

00:21:17.360 that the Iranian regime's calculation is very straightforward.

00:21:20.540 They believe that they have a greater chance of the regime falling by capitulating to the demands

00:21:28.760 of the, of the, of the Trump administration as originally laid out, which were four demands.

00:21:34.700 They were, uh, they were the dismantling the nuclear. They were curtailing the ballistic missiles,

00:21:41.740 stopping the funding of the proxies and not, uh, uh, you know, persecuting and murdering their

00:21:47.800 own people anymore. Those were the four things that Marco Rubio laid out. President Trump also

00:21:51.400 referred to them. They believe that the Iranian regime believes that if they capitulate to the

00:21:55.580 American demands, they, they stand a stronger chance of the regime falling because of, uh,

00:22:02.280 the weakness that it would project to their own people. They fear their own people way more than

00:22:06.000 they fear military strikes by the United States. And they think that they can survive. The regime can

00:22:11.260 survive with lots of damage from us military strikes, especially considering the fact that they're

00:22:16.000 going to unload their missiles at us targets. They've never done that before. You know,

00:22:20.080 after the 12 day war, they did a kind of symbolic retaliation. If you remember to Qatar and they 0.98

00:22:25.280 didn't kill anybody. Same thing after Suleimani was killed, they warned the Americans in advance and,

00:22:29.800 and hit some empty buildings. That's not going to be the case this time. And those American assets 0.58

00:22:34.280 all over the middle East, the Iranians are going to be firing in all directions. If they fear that

00:22:38.260 the regime is under attack. And if they kill any Americans at all, we know that it will be,

00:22:44.240 uh, you know, Trump is going to want to get out of there real fast. So I think the Iranian regime 0.99

00:22:48.300 looks at their options and they say, you know what, going to war is we have a better chance of 1.00

00:22:53.420 the regime surviving than capitulating to the U S demands. So they'll try to delay things as much

00:22:59.180 as possible and give the Americans less and less of a, of a justification politically for attacking.

00:23:04.940 Um, but in the end of the day, they'd prefer those attacks to capitulating to the U S demands.

00:23:09.640 That's how I see it. And that everything that's happened has only confirmed my thesis.

00:23:13.380 Oh, I think I can't believe this. And it only can happen on the war room. I think you and Trita

00:23:18.500 Parsi and Pesaf Maliki agree. It's kind of crazy. He just said when he left her, he says, Hey, look,

00:23:24.700 Oh no, I was thinking the same thing. I heard him say, and I was like, I cannot believe that I agree

00:23:29.200 with Trita Parsi only on war room. But you're only, you're saying Trita just said, Hey, if it comes down

00:23:35.380 to accepting these four, and he was very specific about the ballistic missiles versus giving up the

00:23:39.760 nuclear program, he says, I think they'll take their shot at militarily. Cause as bad as it can

00:23:45.080 get, at least they figured they might be able to hang on if they capitulate. Listen, if the goal

00:23:49.600 is regime survival capitulation to the U S demands, look again, it's very simple. Let's, let's lay out

00:23:56.620 the logic for the war room for the posse. The only force that can bring down the Iranian regime is the 0.97

00:24:02.260 Iranian people. So any calculation about what is the right move by the Iranian regime is what will 0.94

00:24:08.700 or will not empower the Iranian people. Capitulation to the U S demands empowers the Iranian people

00:24:15.600 more than U S military strikes on any target you want. The Iranian regime is not the Syrian Assad

00:24:23.360 regime. It's not, it's not Gaddafi in Libya. It's not Saddam Hussein in Iraq, where you have just one

00:24:29.020 little family that's kind of a mafia family. And that, and Assad gets on a plane and flies to Russia. 0.53

00:24:35.780 The Syrian regime is over. It doesn't work that way in Iran. The Iranian regime is much more like 0.99

00:24:40.540 the Chinese communist party. It's a massive elite that leads the country. There's about 180,000 members

00:24:46.460 of the IRGC. You have their families. You're talking about half a million people, a multi-layered

00:24:50.920 bureaucracy. They know that they could survive military attacks and still suppress unrest.

00:24:56.180 And if they just cause a few casualties to the Americans and make it last a little too long,

00:25:02.000 Trump does not want a prolonged situation. He certainly does not want to absorb any,

00:25:06.740 any casualties. And they believe that they have a better chance of the regime surviving. If they go

00:25:11.940 to war, then if they capitulate to the U S demands, and that's why they're digging in.

00:25:16.680 Um, president Trump has this great phrase, if you're running no games, there's been all this

00:25:24.380 media speculation last 24 hours. There may be something that the Israelis go and do a strike

00:25:28.920 and use it as a, as some sort of cover for the Americans to come in. Do you see anything right 0.91

00:25:33.900 now? You do agree. There is a focus on a diplomatic solution while president Trump builds a vast military

00:25:41.120 apparatus essentially surrounding the Persians. Any truth to this rumor about any Israeli strike

00:25:48.060 that we use as a cover and then the Americans come in later. Is that just media? Uh, I saw that

00:25:53.340 in Politico. Look, there's, you could, you could, you know, get a leak for every position you want to

00:25:59.120 take. It seems that everyone in the administration who has an opinion is leaking it. And then someone's

00:26:05.000 running, whether it's Axios or Politico and saying, Oh, they're, you know, insiders say this insiders

00:26:10.320 say that Trump is a master of unpredictability. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to say that,

00:26:15.600 that, that that's, what's going to happen. And look, I think that that the political story that

00:26:21.140 suggested that there are people in the administration who want the Israelis to strike first,

00:26:25.020 because then a retaliation could come against the U S assets and that could drag America into it and

00:26:30.860 provide greater justification. And the American people will be behind that. And I looked at that

00:26:34.940 and I said, that's absurd. First of all, if that were to happen, everyone in America would say,

00:26:39.160 as Steve Bannon probably would, there's Israel dragging us into another war. And no one wants 0.61

00:26:43.700 that. The Israelis don't want that either. Um, no one wants that. And, and the second thing is

00:26:48.440 in the 12 day war, Iran did not retaliate at all against any American assets. The only strikes

00:26:55.960 against American assets were after the attacks on the nuclear facilities, that symbolic strike against

00:27:01.260 assets in Qatar. So why would anyone think that this strategy would work that, you know, again,

00:27:06.280 what was in Politico today, just so everyone knows what we're talking about. Politico had this report

00:27:09.760 that someone in the administration says that the Americans want the Israelis to attack first,

00:27:14.020 because that will draw an attack on American, on American assets in the middle East, which will,

00:27:19.660 which will give justification for America to strike. I think it's ridiculous, Steve. Sorry. 0.89

00:27:23.980 I know it was in Politico. It makes no sense to me strategically. Rabbi, uh, we're going to have

00:27:29.640 you on, hopefully maybe, uh, we can't tomorrow. We'll have you on, uh, on Monday. I want to talk

00:27:33.620 about the meeting in Vienna and also your thoughts about, uh, what advice should you give the president

00:27:37.780 right now? Where do people get you? Your, your videos are amazing. Where do they go?

00:27:41.680 Thank you very much. You go to Israel 365 news YouTube channel, or I also have a personal YouTube

00:27:46.380 channel that I started recently. That's my name, Pesach Wolicki, uh, on, uh, at, uh, on,

00:27:51.540 on YouTube. And you can also check me out at, at rabbi PW on X. Thanks, Steve.

00:27:58.440 And you have a brain analysis of the Tucker, uh, ambassador Huckabee interview. I recommend

00:28:03.460 everybody go watch rabbit, rabbi. Well, lucky way breaks that down. Short commercial break 0.90

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00:31:22.580 and Rabbi Willicki actually agreed on something, sir. Your thoughts about Geneva today and Vienna on

00:31:28.640 Monday? Well, it's my time to disrupt it, I guess. So my view on what happened today, I think, and I

00:31:35.740 will give it a number because Trita did not, I think it was seven out of 10. I think it was productive.

00:31:40.080 The Iranians secured another meeting. It looks like the sides are not there on a deal, but they're not

00:31:47.480 all that far apart. The Iranians signaled that they were pleased and thought developments happened. It 0.92

00:31:53.940 was a mix of indirect and direct talks, apparently, reportedly. So we got over the hurdle of the weird

00:31:59.560 kabuki where they're in different rooms, potentially. And I think there's a positive framework. I think

00:32:05.640 what remains the stumbling block is it is not entirely clear when the administration would

00:32:11.580 walk out. Different administration players are saying different things. I would say Vance and

00:32:16.000 Wyckoff's language has been more emphasizing no nuclear weapon, nuclear weapon only, versus Rubio's

00:32:24.720 language has been swerving, talking about missiles here, missiles there. And of course, you have the

00:32:31.320 great senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham, apparently in and out of the executive office

00:32:36.300 building here in D.C. today, no doubt whipping internal support against any deal with the Iranians.

00:32:44.320 That's the question. The president was pretty adamant to stay in the union. He wants a deal,

00:32:48.480 but he wants a real deal. And he's not going to get tapped along. Are you starting to see a path

00:32:54.680 because even the crazies of the Mark Levin, Tel Aviv Levin, and also the people who say,

00:32:59.620 you know, you've got to walk away, you've got to leave the area. Don't you think a little bit

00:33:04.200 of that has calmed down, that there looks like there's a joint trust in the president to try

00:33:08.000 to figure out he wants to try to get something done, to give him some space to get something done?

00:33:14.460 I hope so. I mean, I think the president should be trusted on this. I mean, it has to be said,

00:33:18.780 Trump, in this respect, this winter and this spring and last winter and last spring, by even

00:33:24.620 negotiating with the Iranians, got further than the failed Biden approach ever got, which is to

00:33:29.700 say, dialogue can solve a lot of problems. If you revisit wars throughout history, it is just

00:33:34.180 astonishing that many of the wars are caused by a lack of dialogue. These people don't know each

00:33:38.860 other. And I think, you know, yeah, it can be parodies as parodied as meetings on meetings on

00:33:43.460 meetings, but familiarity matters. It matters that Arachi and Wyckoff have each other's cell phone

00:33:48.060 numbers. I think this helps. And so, yeah, I think Trump should be given space. The question,

00:33:53.060 though, is there are spoilers. There are neocon fanatics within the United States and Israeli

00:33:58.660 hardliners who will urge action that will prevent any deal. Netanyahu is against any deal. And so,

00:34:05.820 at the end of the day, if Trump wants to get his deal that, in theory, could A, avoid a war and B,

00:34:11.240 get a Nobel Prize. But isn't that, but isn't that, but that's why I asked Trita about

00:34:15.760 Jared and Wyckoff. I mean, they pulled off. Look, I say it's a second state, and I'm not a,

00:34:22.400 I'm never a proponent of a two-state solution. But Jared and Wyckoff, with President Trump,

00:34:27.340 kind of pulled off a miracle in Gaza, did they not? Now, I hate the fact Qatar is underwriting it, 0.98

00:34:32.900 and the Turks are providing security. But, you know, you've basically stopped the killing,

00:34:39.260 and it looks like the Board of Peace, they're pursuing, they're going forward,

00:34:41.700 and President says, you're always going to have these flurries. And those guys did it.

00:34:46.060 If you had any team that was able to do it, and to block out the noise of both sides,

00:34:52.220 isn't it Kushner and Wyckoff?

00:34:54.880 I actually agree with this. So I think, number one, it needs to be said, especially Wyckoff,

00:34:59.520 but also Kushner, the amount of diplomatic successes they've had for, quote, not trained diplomats,

00:35:04.760 for, quote, not serious diplomats. They've actually been able to blow back and blow through a lot of the

00:35:10.320 bureaucracy and red tape on these approaches. And I think that needs to be heralded and given a

00:35:14.980 chance. And secondly, I think you're right to flag the Gaza ceasefire. I think it was much better,

00:35:20.080 it is much better than the status quo ante, when the Israelis were mowing down Palestinians every day. 0.74

00:35:25.000 And I think we've got to remember, remember around the UN late September last year in 25,

00:35:30.100 no one thought that that was possible. And all of a sudden, Trump imposed that on the Israelis,

00:35:35.680 and they got a deal. That is the precedent here.

00:35:37.720 That's what I'm saying. President Trump's political will to get peace with peace through

00:35:44.100 strength, by showing strength. And we may have some coercive diplomacy at some point in time. Kurt,

00:35:49.800 where do people get you? You're on top of this 24-7, particularly in your Twitter feed. Where do

00:35:54.400 they go and where do they go for your great magazine? Yeah, so the magazine is The American

00:35:58.800 Conservative, founded in 2002 here in Washington, D.C., against the Iraq War. And my own work,

00:36:04.160 obviously parallel with tax, is at Kurt Mills, at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S, on X. Thank you.

00:36:11.540 Thank you, Kurt. Fantastic. So we did a run, and we're going to continue to focus on that.

00:36:16.780 From the White House, Neil McCabe from the White House. I hate to say I was right yesterday,

00:36:21.960 but I was right. This wasn't guys out having a couple of beers. They chased the fish too much into

00:36:30.540 Cuban territory. What do we know today, or at least what the Cubans are saying? And it appears like

00:36:35.320 the State Department of the U.S. government's working with them. What do we know? Just a bunch

00:36:38.440 of big announcements a little while ago, Neil. What do you got?

00:36:44.200 Yeah, so this was not the SS minnow, Steve. About an hour ago, Carlos de la Casio, who is the

00:36:52.020 deputy foreign minister, put out a public statement from the Cuban embassy, from the Cuban government.

00:36:56.940 And what he said was that from the beginning, when this boat entered Cuban waters, they were

00:37:03.140 tracking it. So that's 12 nautical miles, right? Or the territorial waters of Cuba. So 12 miles out,

00:37:09.320 they were tracking the vessel in full communication with the State Department and Coast Guard. And so

00:37:16.160 when they were approaching the Cuban Coast Guard or Cuban Border Patrol ship, when they approached this

00:37:23.420 vessel, State and Coast Guard were completely in on it, watching the action happen. And also they gave a

00:37:32.440 list of some of the weapons and munitions that they found, the materiel. Sniper rifles, Molotov cocktails,

00:37:40.780 bayonets, camouflage clothing, bulletproof vests, radios, rations, night goggles, ammo,

00:37:47.600 and anti-Cuban insignia on their clothing. And they also added that the U.S. government has shown

00:37:55.440 complete willingness to cooperate in Cuba's investigation, Steve.

00:38:01.100 Why? Maybe we'll find this out later. Why nine in the morning and not three in the morning? Why come

00:38:08.040 out in broad daylight where you can be tracked by the United States Coast Guard, the State Department

00:38:11.700 satellites? Do we have any explanation at all? That's that's the most bizarre part of this,

00:38:16.340 is it not? Yeah, absolutely. And it's like, well, also the thing that triggered me is

00:38:23.420 night goggles. Maybe they're cheaper than they used to be, but people night goggles is a pretty

00:38:29.260 serious piece of equipment. So if you have night goggles, you have some connections with somebody,

00:38:33.940 those things aren't cheap. And frankly, you have to learn how to use them. And so that tells me that

00:38:39.280 there was some level of professionalism involved here. But as you said, I mean, they would have had to

00:38:43.980 have, you know, let's say they traveled 100 miles, right? So that's what, six, seven hours at sea.

00:38:49.920 And then they arrive 10, 10 to 9 to 10 in the morning.

00:38:53.860 You brought up that this might be the Versailles Bakery, which is the old school Cuban hangout,

00:38:59.380 legendary President Trump's gone there a bunch of times for walk and talks. Is this sound like

00:39:05.360 something like that? Or do you think it's much more serious mercenaries, paramilitary?

00:39:11.900 I think that, you know, the Versailles crew, right? I would imagine they've been training for the last

00:39:20.360 70 years. And so, and I imagine a lot of them are veterans of special operations and other experiences.

00:39:27.440 So I'm sure they have their own sort of paramilitary wing. And, you know, with the meetings going on

00:39:34.040 with Rubio, and they saw, you know, how vehemently anti-Venezuela and the Venezuelan regime Rubio was,

00:39:42.160 especially in Trump 45. And the president, the president gave a speech in Miami in 2020,

00:39:48.360 just ripping the Venezuelans to the people in Florida. And then they saw the deal that was cut 0.88

00:39:53.960 post-Maduro. And they were thinking, hey, maybe, maybe they, the guys who are running Cuba now,

00:40:00.120 they'll get the same deal and we'll get boxed out. I'm not saying I have proof of that.

00:40:04.820 Someone communicated that to me, who's very active in the Cuban community. And it makes sense to me,

00:40:10.380 Steve. A lot going on there. A very complicated situation. Neil McCabe, where do people track you,

00:40:16.480 particularly overnight? Do we get you back up tomorrow? We're going to follow up with additional

00:40:19.540 reporting on this. Sam Fattis also going to join us. Where do they go, Neil?

00:40:24.860 At Reporter McCabe on all the socials, Steve. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

00:40:31.460 Vaughn Hilliard, remember him from Cary Lake days back in 22 out in Arizona,

00:40:36.780 was on MSWild today talking about a Washington Post or a blockbuster. He's been following us

00:40:41.320 every day when we opened with John Solomon. John Solomon has been saying there's information coming

00:40:45.780 out next week, he's saying, about foreign intervention into stealing the 2020 election.

00:40:53.140 Washington Post has a story where we can put it up that talks about the Chinese Communist Party. Is

00:40:57.700 that very surprising to the Warren Posse? Forrest, you join us now. We have been talking about this

00:41:03.780 since even the run up to 2020. You know, the laptop from hell and the Biden's involvement with the

00:41:10.140 Chinese Communist Party. But particularly after that election, we were pointing at the Chinese

00:41:14.220 Communist Party the entire time. It looks like not only there's some report that may come out as early

00:41:19.960 as next week, there's an executive order banging around that may be deeper than the executive order

00:41:25.600 on just voter fraud. It may be calling for emergency powers if the president needs them

00:41:31.560 to step into the 2026 election. Your thoughts, sir?

00:41:36.040 Yeah. First of all, Steve, this really proves, again, how correct and how great you and Miles are.

00:41:43.240 Because back in 2017 and 2018, when Miles talked about this, nobody believes this. And when he talks

00:41:49.880 about this is not a simple prediction, it's the intelligence. When you talk about this against

00:41:56.400 the Chinese Communist Party, it's too dangerous, it's too unpopular. But you did it anyway. It's 1.00

00:42:01.640 briefness and vision. That's first. And the second is, because you guys talk about this, CCP fears you

00:42:09.700 the most, fear the most, and also fear President Trump the most. Because you three guys are the

00:42:16.660 people who really want to take down the Chinese Communist Party. And you cannot be threatened.

00:42:21.300 You cannot be bought off. That's why they fear you the most. You guys are the people of action.

00:42:30.020 You take action, you make that determination.

00:42:32.740 I just want to remind people that for people here at the very beginning, or so many of Miles shows in

00:42:39.700 18 and 19, Miles Guo would say that Donald Trump is the greatest existential threat to the Chinese

00:42:46.900 Communist Party. And they will do anything to remove him. Now, they tried a pandemic, okay? And they

00:42:53.220 still couldn't do that. Now we're going to have, I believe, according to the Washington Post, you're

00:42:57.860 actually have the intelligence community. And John Solomon's been signaling this. It's one of the

00:43:03.380 reasons I believe Tulsi Gabbard was down in, wait for it, Georgia, that you're going to have evidence

00:43:11.300 that you had involvement of the Chinese Communist Party in the 2020 election. And this is why there's

00:43:16.900 going to be, I think, an executive order that's going to give the president emergency powers if he so

00:43:23.620 chooses in his judgment that he needs to make sure this can't happen again. And this also puts to lie

00:43:31.140 all the cyber experts that came on said this is the cleanest election in mankind's history.

00:43:35.300 You see this in Georgia. You see this tomorrow where they're not going to have this hearing where

00:43:39.780 the Democratic Party in Fulton County is absolutely ballistic over not getting back those ballots.

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00:46:54.920 Roy, a blockbuster story in the Washington Post. Very detailed, very long. It's up. Elizabeth's got it up.

00:47:02.920 I think I want everybody to read it. It talks about what, and it makes sense now. This is why Tulsi was down

00:47:09.080 in Georgia. This is what John Solomon's been alluding to. That has been foreign interference

00:47:14.200 in American elections. Wow, where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, that's right, the war room.

00:47:18.680 Miles O'Gro, who told you for years this was going to happen. And it's going to result in,

00:47:23.880 in Peter Tickton's name, Peter Tickton's, Tina Peters' lawyer, and got the pardon for Tina Peters at

00:47:29.940 federal level. He's been all over it. And Kurt Olson, how many times do we have Kurt on the show?

00:47:35.240 For years and years, you're a Carrie Lake's lawyer. Roy, you're the getter guy. The site's amazing.

00:47:42.840 What are your thoughts? You've been on, you've been the new federal state fighting this for a long

00:47:45.880 time. We see the Washington Post reporting this as you guys have been warning about the CCP. How

00:47:51.160 does it make you feel, sir? Yeah, I feel like, sir, you're the first person who actually speak about

00:47:59.160 this like six years ago on miles. And like Forrest said, like the CCP is the ultimate goal is to

00:48:07.160 destroy the United States. I don't agree with the word influence. I think it's control. CCP wants the

00:48:13.880 full control over the election. And actually they did it in 2020 through the pandemic, through the

00:48:19.640 media control, through everything. And you guys been saying this for six years, like Forrest said,

00:48:24.840 like people take us as lunatics, but now guess what? Like it's truth, right? And the CCP is the

00:48:31.000 only regime that takes, you know, every action with the mindset that it's going to destroy the United

00:48:37.640 States. And that's why people try to divide you and miles and, and President Trump all the time.

00:48:44.680 Look at anyone who attack you and my school and Trump, like they have vested interests,

00:48:51.560 and taking money out of businesses. They're on the, they're on a payroll. Before I let you go,

00:48:56.440 you're enjoying me again tomorrow in the first hour we're going to do this. But Forrest,

00:48:59.640 this makes sense because the laptop from hell, when, when, when Rudy invited me to look at the

00:49:03.800 laptop from home, because of my expertise, I learned from you guys in the Chinese Communist Party,

00:49:08.280 right? You can see in the first five minutes, you can see in the first five minutes,

00:49:11.320 the corruption of the Biden family, the CCP had corrupted them. They would try anything,

00:49:16.280 a pandemic, buying off the Bidens, right? Anything to do anything, anything they had to do to stop

00:49:22.440 Trump. Trump is their existential threat. Don't people go with Trump's got a personal relationship

00:49:27.080 with him. Forget all that. They understand that Trump's basic understanding is he's got to stop

00:49:34.280 the Chinese Communist Party. It's to the marrow of his bones. It just is. And that's why they stole 1.00

00:49:39.480 the 2020 election. Forrest, give me a minute on that. And we'll have you guys back on tomorrow.

00:49:43.320 Yes, absolutely. That's why they fear you and President Trump. They want to destroy you,

00:49:49.080 anyone trying to against the CCP. They put you in prison. They put Miles in prison,

00:49:55.160 Peter Navarro in prison. The president has almost been put in prison. That's what they are trying to

00:50:00.840 do because they know that you are, you are the guys trying to defend this country, try to save this

00:50:05.400 country, try to defend this Chinese Communist Party. If we cannot defeat or take down the Chinese 1.00

00:50:11.720 Communist Party, they will take over. As Roy just said, their goal is to destroy this country because

00:50:16.360 they know 90% of the Chinese people, they want the freedom, the same freedom and democracy this

00:50:21.800 country's people has. They know if they don't destroy American, they cannot continuously control and

00:50:27.720 sleeve the Chinese people. That's why they try to destroy anybody, try to against the Chinese Communist 1.00

00:50:33.240 Party. So that's why you and Miles and President Trump are the greatest guy, because in the history,

00:50:39.640 will further prove this, because what you have done is historic. Because the Chinese Communist Party

00:50:46.600 is the threat for all human beings. I'm a small cog in that wheel, but Navarro, the most anti-CCP

00:50:54.440 guy ever, wrote all the books, Crouching Tigers. They have five great books about China. Myself as a

00:51:00.360 junior cog, Miles and President Trump, all either in prison or they tried to send President Trump to

00:51:05.880 prison for 300 years. Roy, where do people get you, sir?

00:51:10.680 Yeah, no, you're so humble. You're the goat for Chinese people, American people. People can follow 1.00

00:51:14.840 me at Roy Guo on Gator. Please go to Gator. It's amazing. Thank you so much.

00:51:19.320 Three miles, four.

00:51:20.280 Three miles, four. Forrest, where do they get you?

00:51:23.880 Oh, you can find me on Gator and the forest on Gator.

00:51:27.160 Three miles, Guo, take down the CCP.

00:51:30.840 Take it down the CCP.

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Bannon's War Room - February 27, 2026

Episode 5173： Negotiations Continue With Iran; Nationalizing The 2026 Election

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