Bannon's War Room - Episode 5182： Destroying the Basic Apparatus Of Iran While The Regime Still Survives

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10.240 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.860 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:21.020 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:24.360 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of

00:00:32.200 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:00:39.300 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:00:47.800 it's uh monday uh second of march year of alert year of our lord 2026 the east room of the white

00:01:00.320 house we're going to go to momentarily uh a ceremony uh for um the recipients of the congressional medal

00:01:08.460 of honor president now we're hearing may actually talk to the press answer a few questions maybe do

00:01:15.760 a spray maybe address the iranian people we're going to find that out as we go on our own neil

00:01:20.620 mccabe is there we can't communicate because of just setting up um brandon weikert i got curb

00:01:27.980 metals and we get kurt up in a second brandon um you kind of dropped a bombshell the president

00:01:32.900 was saying four or five weeks and the question people are going to ask well hang on we have a

00:01:38.260 one trillion dollar defense budget uh we got the greatest weapons manufacturing capability

00:01:44.660 in the world uh second to none is this because we've been you sending weapons to ukraine is it

00:01:52.460 the 12-day war for for israel and because so far the cc the chinese communist party and let me be

00:01:59.780 brutally frank i don't the chinese communist party in venezuela and now in iran with their two of their

00:02:05.380 biggest allies kind of look cucked i mean she i i don't i believe right now you're not even going to

00:02:11.100 see a state visit in april i don't know how she saves face with his military and his people 0.98

00:02:17.660 by having president trump but the conquering hero that's taken out maduro and now taking out the

00:02:22.880 ayatollah which are the two those two combined i believe sir 80 or 90 percent of uh the chinese

00:02:29.800 communist party energy uh output deal so what are you talking about that we're running out of weapons

00:02:34.940 well i just want to correct you uh 15 percent of uh china's oil comes from iran and less than four

00:02:40.920 percent came from venezuela uh 80 percent of iran's oil is sold to china uh but the chinese have been

00:02:48.100 shifting uh significantly away from iran's oil over the last several weeks in fact two weeks ago the

00:02:55.200 chinese bought more more oil from saudi arabia in the last three weeks uh than they have in the last

00:03:00.980 year because they were anticipating the strikes uh i actually unfortunately say that i don't believe

00:03:06.760 china is sitting cucked at all i think they are watching us deplete ourselves in real time and 0.96

00:03:12.960 that's going to give them a lot of strategic leverage um and actually i i'm very concerned so

00:03:18.300 you're right hold on hold it you mean you mean you mean you mean strategic leverage in uh the south

00:03:23.580 china sea the streets of taiwan yes yes yes absolutely absolutely and i actually think the chinese and

00:03:30.180 the russians are both counting down the days until the centcom aor's uh arsenal is depleted and we are

00:03:37.320 forced to pull from indopaycom now look taiwan was expecting two years ago massive amounts of air

00:03:44.120 defense systems and coastal defense batteries that biden had to pull out of taiwan and send to ukraine

00:03:50.260 promising hey you'll get them in 2027 uh if this thing now trump expedited that it's supposed to be

00:03:55.840 coming online to them sooner but if this thing goes on beyond this next weekend the americans are

00:04:01.820 gonna have to pull those uh systems set for taiwan again only this time for iran so this is a this if

00:04:09.600 trump can't get an off-ramp and i think you know you guys were talking about the four-week strategy i

00:04:14.180 think the real reason he's got these off-ramps built in is because our logistics guys are sitting

00:04:18.500 they're going we got to stretch a very finite amount of resources but just very basically this

00:04:24.900 thing could be depleted by sunday monday of next week but if we don't get an off-ramp the president

00:04:30.880 just said and look a lot of times he's uh doing misdirection plays because he doesn't want any

00:04:36.160 enemy to have that but he said hey the the big wave hasn't come yet and uh and this is why we're

00:04:41.140 talking about an off-ramp maybe discuss with after the big wave do you believe we have enough

00:04:45.500 stocks and capacities to do a major what we call roman even more of a punitive strike than you've 0.96

00:04:52.680 done now something because you said degrade i think the president of the united states wants to destroy

00:04:57.580 the basic apparatus so how do you do that with with the logistics so he can either he can either keep

00:05:03.480 doing this sort of delay strategy where we go in a little bit we pull back we reassess which will

00:05:08.860 stretch out those logistics longer or if he's planning for one big one in the next 72 hours this could be

00:05:14.560 like the battle of the bulge with us in the losing position we go in hard huts hope we can knock out

00:05:19.880 all these guys the thing is the regime has survived now we've taken out 40 of their leaders we got the

00:05:25.000 ayatollah good on us but the regime has clearly been hardened to a degree where they can bring up new

00:05:31.400 meat if you will but but but but i am hearing they haven't for opsec they haven't gone through all the

00:05:37.480 details but it's just not 40 guys having the ayatollah having a picture they actually went much deeper

00:05:43.200 into the no i know i know and and right right yes but i'm just saying the big the big ticket items

00:05:48.660 we've gotten already and the regime is still not only popping off missiles but they're doing it in 0.57

00:05:53.700 a very effective way to the point that the arabs are now complaining that the u.s is prioritizing

00:05:59.160 defense of israel over the arab states where u.s bases are located which is actually causing a rift now

00:06:05.660 uh in the arab u.s alliance which we need to be stronger than ever as we go forward here so there are a lot

00:06:11.780 of complications here and with these depletion rates coming online i talked to a guy from this

00:06:16.660 a retired missile defense agency guy uh who's saying that he thinks in the next 72 hours the

00:06:21.540 entire situation is going to flip on its head uh because it's a race to depletion and we're going

00:06:26.340 to be depleted faster race depletion or real quickly uh i want you to hang around uh i gotta bounce i gotta

00:06:32.920 bounce man okay fine hang on hang on this answer centcom centcom has said uh that three f15 e echoes have uh

00:06:40.800 were shot down by the kuwaitis on a friendly fire any details on that yeah so they all survived it 1.00

00:06:47.040 was six pilots you know three pilots three wizos they all survived uh interestingly though when they

00:06:52.280 let when they got on the ground with out of their ejection seats the people of kuwait were going to

00:06:56.720 try to kill them uh and that is because there is a severe backlash among the allied populations in

00:07:01.780 in the middle east against us wow brandon weiker we have a problem here yeah where do people go for

00:07:08.880 your uh for all your information social media you can find me your great book on shadow war

00:07:13.580 thank you sir yeah the shadow war at amazon you can find me at we the brandon on twitter x find me

00:07:19.960 writing nat sec guy section on emerald.tv and senior national security editor at 1945 with my

00:07:27.400 buddy harry kaziannis thank you sir appreciate you thank you steve keep up the good work thank you

00:07:34.440 as long as i got the easiest job in the world i just cut the microphone on and bring guys like you

00:07:38.400 that know what they're talking about kurt mills uh an update uh your thoughts so far he just told

00:07:45.580 uh brett bear that it's the venezuelan model we've talked about that over the last uh two days

00:07:51.360 saturday and sunday um he's told uh you know pete hexa said hey it could be four or five weeks

00:07:56.960 could be longer could be shorter we're not going to tip our hand eric prince was on here talk

00:08:01.300 as discussed the roman punitive model you're going and hit hard you shatter it until you find

00:08:07.780 somebody that you can find that's uh appropriate you think to run the deal and then you make sure

00:08:13.680 that they're installed and uh and then you move out your thoughts on all this sir yeah not to directly

00:08:19.740 contradict the president or far be it for me to contradict eric prince i think either model um is

00:08:24.500 not exactly going to be apropos here um the carthage model of course you know they salted the earth i

00:08:29.840 mean we're nowhere near that with the iranians i mean we haven't collapsed the regime and that's

00:08:34.200 why the administration is all over the place on whether or not regime changes the goal the regime

00:08:38.460 remains in charge uh they have decapitated uh alay khamenei um but i mean frankly behind the scenes

00:08:45.540 it was unclear whether or not alay khamenei was frankly frankly a net plus for the functioning of

00:08:50.900 the regime he was very old um it's like any like large company a lot of times you know the 90 year

00:08:55.980 old ceo is not exactly making it work super well there it may very well be that the successors

00:09:01.260 are frankly more vicious more able um there could be opportunity though um because they could be

00:09:06.560 more pragmatic uh understand the u.s system better um it's it's entirely unclear um as towards uh you

00:09:13.120 know the approach here can we just replicate venezuela i don't think so it's a lot further away

00:09:17.520 and iran is uh i don't say like much more of a real country uh but much more of a real state

00:09:22.480 um it has a serious military um it can uh impose uh reprisals as it's doing now across the gulf and

00:09:29.280 in israel and unfortunately uh to our assets in the region um and i think uh finally uh the main

00:09:36.820 thrust here is that it is a fearsome regime that is going to fight for its own survival they're not

00:09:41.800 even taking per multiple reporting they're not taking the american calls it's very possible it's

00:09:46.900 going on in a deep back channel um but i mean the the reality is a lot of times the deep back channel

00:09:52.660 uh is run by the cia and the cia is run by john grantcliffe who presumably uh opposes any discussion

00:09:59.280 with the iranians and so i think we're in uh we're immediately in a quagmire and i think the

00:10:04.140 president's best option is to acknowledge the sunk cost fallacy which is we've only been involved in

00:10:09.780 this in 48 to 72 hours there's very little cost of getting out just now imagine if the kaiser in world 0.59

00:10:15.720 war one had just left in august uh he would have still been the kaiser um they've talked about and

00:10:24.440 the the word is that the the degradation of this is much deeper and for opsec they they haven't they

00:10:30.780 haven't said that uh i take it you're hearing differently that the regime and of course trita

00:10:35.300 parsi and yourself both said they're not going to surrender and they're not going to surrender

00:10:40.060 through negotiations because these guys if they surrender it's a if they capitulate

00:10:45.140 they'll be overthrown by their people and they're not going to let their people turn on them because 0.97

00:10:49.480 they understand that that's a they'll be graveyard dead shortly and president trump has reiterated that

00:10:54.960 and reiterate that in fact we know that tom cotton and general raisin kane are in the east room right

00:11:00.800 now they're in the audience we're hearing that the president may even say a few words directly to

00:11:05.540 the iranian people to kick off this uh medal of honor uh ceremony uh your thoughts on that do you

00:11:12.500 think you think he's done enough you're saying we're well short of is that the president right

00:11:17.140 there let's cut right to the east room president united states

00:11:20.640 oh general king is he going to say anything i'm sorry don't want my glasses on

00:11:27.320 there we go okay they're mulling there's milling around smartly as we say in the military

00:11:35.240 military so uh your thoughts on that kurt mills yeah i mean look i think top line uh you know

00:11:42.600 with to kane this is hegsaf's choice um this is who he wanted to install in that position and i think

00:11:48.080 very notably he comes from the air force and i think we are seeing potentially the limitations of

00:11:51.980 air power here there are military assessments uh all over the place um but i would flag why do you

00:11:57.660 see hang on why do you see why do you see the limitations of air power we're only

00:12:01.960 we're less than 72 hours into this exercise well if the goal is regime change it's never been done

00:12:08.400 by air power alone right i mean i mean it did but did but let's let's go to that pete hex has said

00:12:14.020 very specifically today there's not regime change now the president may have implied something else

00:12:19.320 in his discussions but what pete was and we love pete right uh pete was uh pete was pretty adamant

00:12:27.060 this is not regime change yet the regime is being changed i think it was the way he phrased it right

00:12:31.500 yeah it's a little bit like the mike davis character who was on your show earlier who said

00:12:35.640 there was a difference between doing war and making war or something like this i'm not sure that's how

00:12:39.160 verbs work but like i mean i i think this is this distinction without a difference um the reality is

00:12:45.340 the administration is obviously flirtatious with regime change policy i don't think they've decided

00:12:50.880 i think they're open to it like if they knock out the regime uh quote unquote and then the people

00:12:55.520 spontaneously rise up and install a jeffersonian democracy in tehran they're happy with it

00:13:00.400 um i don't think that's going to happen but but that's not going to happen that's not going to

00:13:04.540 happen these people are not jeffersonian democrats i keep saying their parents their parents and their

00:13:08.600 grandparents are the ones that threw out the shah throughout the united states with no ceremony 1.00

00:13:14.440 and beg for they begged for islamic republic they kind of got what they wanted they wanted sir

00:13:20.320 correct yeah no listen to what the actual regime is saying i mean you should always listen to your

00:13:25.380 antagonist your adversaries you should take you should study them very hard what the regime is

00:13:29.360 actually saying on the airwaves on uh middle eastern tv at this point they are saying that

00:13:34.800 look the regime has supporters among basically their baby boomers and older uh because they

00:13:39.680 remember the anti-american rhetoric that installed the islamic republic in the 70s they are seeing

00:13:44.780 this actually as an opportunity to remind uh their younger residents who were more pro-american

00:13:50.540 the dangers of the quote great satan right and so they're actually using this as a chance to

00:13:55.880 galvanize among a new generation of leadership they'll be hostile to the u.s from the perspective

00:14:01.320 of an american foreign policy this is a cataclysm uh we are creating uh a more radicalized uh potentially

00:14:09.320 more formidable islamic republic we are not defanging it okay hang on for one second there's a report that 0.59

00:14:15.560 qatar has just shot down two iranian jets we're going to confirm that remember qatar when we went over there

00:14:23.480 there in 17 qatar was kind of the uh the the the hidden partner of the persians and iranians in fact

00:14:31.240 they still share some working big working relationship in those gas fields anyway reporting that qatar has

00:14:36.760 taken down two iranian jets we're gonna take a short commercial break the president united states is going

00:14:42.120 to join some of the senior military commanders for a medal of honor ceremony in the east room our own

00:14:48.680 neil mccabe is there real america's voice of course we can't talk to any of the uh reporters as is

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00:16:27.080 okay i've got my glasses on now so i can actually see who's coming into the east room or not we're going

00:16:31.160 to go cut there in a moment for the commander in chief president united states treat a parsi treat

00:16:36.520 i want you to stick around because i want to get some detailed analysis of you but quickly there's

00:16:41.000 some rumor going around that the president may actually address directly use this occasion to

00:16:46.200 directly address for a couple of minutes the iranian people what do you think would be uh for the from

00:16:52.200 the iranian people's perspective what could the commander in chief our president united states say to them

00:16:57.160 sir i gotta tell you steve i find this really hard uh because the most likely thing he's going to say

00:17:03.720 to them is that they should rise up and overthrow uh the government and that essentially he has paved

00:17:09.240 the way for them to do so that is much much easier said than done so i'm not so sure that message any

00:17:15.480 variation of it really would land particularly well because last time he did encourage them to go out

00:17:21.000 several thousands of them were killed uh and we see already now that even under the 24 hour in which

00:17:27.160 perhaps there was a window after uh the supreme leader had been killed we didn't see any mass

00:17:31.880 mobilization or anything that suggested that the organization why is why is that why why is that tell

00:17:39.080 our audience why do you think that is and why do you think they're not prepared not enough has been

00:17:43.480 done tell us why they didn't rise up initially in mass and what needs to be done to get them to rise up sir

00:17:49.880 a couple of things first of all they were the protests were clamped down on so brutally in

00:17:56.840 january that while it created even more anger at the same time it was also very clear that it really

00:18:03.000 scared people it was also quite scary to a lot of people who were out there protesting legitimately

00:18:07.800 because they really detested regime that they also were scared by seeing that there were elements

00:18:12.760 inside the country that was using the protest to uh forment violence to burn mosques burned

00:18:20.440 banks police stations fire trucks etc and they were not really ready for that type of a civil war type

00:18:26.040 of a situation the regime still has the monopoly on force they are the ones who are armed they are the

00:18:31.400 ones who are in control they in my view do not have the support of more than 15 perhaps 20 of the

00:18:37.400 population but 20 of the population is still 18 million people that is not an insignificant number so

00:18:44.280 this is not a type of a scenario as it was in libya or in iraq in which you know all power is with one

00:18:50.680 single person within this regime and everyone else is essentially against them this is much much more

00:18:55.560 complicated trita the president twice when he's done these videos has gone out of his way to tell the

00:19:03.720 army apparatus and the police apparatus and a lot of the people not just simply the rgrc but everybody in

00:19:08.840 everybody in law enforcement and in in any type of service that you have an opportunity here we will

00:19:15.400 give you complete and total immunity if you essentially surrender or come to us or come

00:19:20.360 to our side or come to the side of the iranian people but if you're part of these guys that are

00:19:25.000 putting it down like so viciously back in january he's blunt you will die uh is that you believe that

00:19:31.880 having is that having any impact at all we have seen no signs at all that that has had any impact

00:19:38.520 and again part of the reason why it doesn't or it doesn't at least so far is because a people don't

00:19:45.640 trust trump after seeing twice now in the midst of negotiations him uh ordering military force you know

00:19:53.160 why would anyone in that system believe that if they defect they will be safe you're asking them to

00:19:58.200 put a tremendous amount of faith in a promise of a person that they have no reason to trust and i'm

00:20:03.080 not saying that the u.s has any reason to trust the iranians either but bottom line is the experience

00:20:07.720 of the last couple of years uh has not convinced anyone on that side apparently that this is a

00:20:13.080 promise uh worth banking on secondly the remaining people that support this regime who are in the irgc

00:20:19.720 they're the most hardcore supporters of the ideals of this revolution which in their view is about

00:20:25.160 resisting uh subjugation and surrender to the united states and to western powers in general

00:20:31.560 the idea that they would give up the idea that surrender is something that they would contemplate

00:20:36.680 rather than thinking that fighting until they die is a more worthy way of going out particularly when

00:20:42.120 they cannot trust that surrender again i think creates a situation in which it is much more likely

00:20:47.720 that they will stay and fight rather than surrender and again if this um um theory had worked we would

00:20:54.840 not be in this situation in the first place because after having moved one third of the u.s navy to

00:20:59.720 the persian gulf they should have surrendered and clearly they did it uh he just told brett bear

00:21:05.960 because he's been doing a series you know jonathan carl you got jake tapper now break but he just told

00:21:10.520 brett bear i i'm i'm my concept here is the venezuelan model okay which is they they were obviously having

00:21:18.040 discussions with venezuela beforehand the people that are in charge today and they took out the leader and

00:21:23.800 his wife and kind of a a decapitation what do you interpret as someone that's obviously uh you've 1.00

00:21:30.280 worked uh as uh with the persians you were with president obama doing the deal is that resonating

00:21:36.920 you think of any command structure that's left or is a possibility for us to have a basically a

00:21:42.760 punitive strike have a new group come on board uh maybe that some people have relationships with and

00:21:48.600 turn it over to them in 72 hours i don't think so i could go back to what i said earlier on take a

00:21:55.560 look at what happened in venezuela it was a very effective way of taking out that element of the 0.98

00:22:01.560 leadership and getting the rest of the leadership to stay in power but what did that leadership do

00:22:05.880 they completely surrendered trump issued that tweet and say in which he said that he's now running the

00:22:11.240 country one of the first things venezuela did under this new variation of the regime they started

00:22:16.680 selling oil to israel so the surrender option for or the defection option for these people essentially

00:22:24.840 means that they would be completely subjugated and they would have to do and agree to policies that they

00:22:30.440 have fought their entire lives against so it is is just inconceivable for me to see that there would

00:22:37.560 be anyone defecting from within that system if that is the outcome if that is what trump is looking for

00:22:43.400 and so far every time he says venezuela that is what he is saying to them that it would be that

00:22:48.280 type of subjugation and then iran would have a foreign policy that would be much more similar to

00:22:52.600 that of the uae completely catering to the israelis so if it was something else if he was uh offering a

00:23:00.280 different type of relationship that would be more even between the united states and iran um then perhaps

00:23:05.560 you could get people to defect but if the defection then automatically leads to them surrendering to

00:23:12.200 policy that they have fought their entire lives against i just don't find that being a uh something

00:23:17.000 that would attract the critical mass of defections that are needed trita hang on for a second uh thank

00:23:23.080 you so much for that i want to go to joe allen uh joe uh we just had brandon weicker on here about

00:23:28.680 depletion of our weapon systems particularly the weapons the actual missiles were dropping but

00:23:35.240 even a deeper concern right now it's total confusion on artificial intelligence which is so central now

00:23:42.120 to our weapon systems what is going on i'm hearing claude is dropped they can't get access to certain

00:23:47.880 things walk through exactly where we stand with artificial intelligence and its ability to be applied

00:23:53.960 to the battlefield like now well steve the confusion really arises from a problem we've dealt with for the

00:24:02.840 the last five years that's just how to disentangle the imagination that people have of what artificial

00:24:09.320 intelligence is and can do and the reality which is constantly changing with each new advancement

00:24:15.800 as far as claude or open ai's gpt or google's gemini any of these the capabilities are quite limited

00:24:24.920 in a battlefield scenario the best that you're going to get out of something like claude which is a large

00:24:31.400 language model is it's going to be able to scrape over classified documents classified information

00:24:38.200 and organize it for intel agents or anyone else that's working with that information one of the problems

00:24:45.560 is that as it advances it allows for things like mass surveillance it allows for possibly in the future

00:24:54.200 something like autonomous weapons control this was at the heart of the conflict between pete

00:24:59.880 hegseth at the department of war and dario amadei at anthropic so i think a real way of looking at what ai

00:25:09.560 as far as large language models is doing is just think of it as a tool that intel agents or other

00:25:17.160 military personnel are using to organize information and even something as mundane as say writing emails

00:25:24.760 or to bounce ideas off of it in a kind of war gaming scenario that being said the capabilities are

00:25:31.320 increasing every week so the reason that pete hegseth is so intent on having access to something like

00:25:40.840 claude or having access to something like gpt and unfettered access is surely in anticipation that

00:25:49.480 even with the limitations now that those limitations are going to shrink day by day

00:25:54.680 and that the increased capabilities of these systems will prove that as we've been told over

00:26:00.840 and over and over again ai will be decisive in warfare one other point to make steve is that

00:26:07.240 these large language models are just one type of many different types of ai systems or algorithmic

00:26:13.000 systems so you have tons of systems that are used for detecting incoming fire you have tons of systems

00:26:19.400 that are used for autonomous response to the incoming incoming fire you have tons of different systems of

00:26:25.800 like perception and control that are used for drones and in the near future swarms and swarms of swarms

00:26:34.680 of drones these are all very different from something like claude or something like gpt but gpt claude any

00:26:44.520 of these large language models as they get quote unquote smarter are going to be able to direct to to sense

00:26:52.360 what the drones are sensing and to direct these drones this is also an intended use and so you could

00:26:58.760 in the future maybe the near future have a system like claude or a system like gpt that is in control

00:27:06.200 of other systems like drone systems it's very complicated but one thing to emphasize is that

00:27:12.920 these systems aren't like traditional computer programs you don't simply put an input in it and a

00:27:19.800 predictable output comes out the other end because they're in non-deterministic they make their own

00:27:27.000 decisions that's why it's so dangerous this is the anthropic department of war uh split uh joe real

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00:31:37.080 momentarily we'll be going to the white house we understand the president's going to say but have

00:31:41.160 some appropriate remarks and maybe directly address uh the people in uh in iran or the persians uh trita

00:31:49.000 i know you got to bounce uh just give us your summary of the thoughts of he is to talk to the

00:31:53.000 people in iran what do you think would be the most effective thing you could say

00:31:57.880 i gotta be frank with you steve i think the most important thing you should do is to talk to the

00:32:01.320 american people and find an off-ramp out of this i think he thought that this was going to be quick

00:32:06.440 this was going to be like venezuela by sunday evening he would have this wrapped up it would

00:32:10.360 be glorious by monday morning when uh markets open this would all be gone and it would have

00:32:15.720 no impact it's not turning out that way the iranian strategy is to prolong this war to expand this war

00:32:21.960 and their calculation is that they're going to try to inflict as much damage on the us as possible

00:32:27.160 because they believe that's the only way that there could be a durable ceasefire afterwards

00:32:31.720 meaning that it has to be so costly that no one wants to go back to this war

00:32:35.640 their conclusion from the previous war is that they prematurely agreed to a ceasefire they went

00:32:41.640 for a ceasefire after 12 days and then six seven months later israel is back pushing the united

00:32:47.240 states to go into this war so if there's going to be a ceasefire again they're going to probably

00:32:51.320 try to make sure that it's as costly as possible before they agree to it this means that this can

00:32:56.120 drag out way longer than what president trump has said about four weeks and i think that's

00:33:01.080 something that he just came up with i think he wanted it to be much shorter than that

00:33:04.440 and this could very easily then end up into a scenario that starts looking like an endless war

00:33:09.080 and we saw earlier today that there's this opening of the door for ground troops this is all starting

00:33:14.200 to look like a disaster an off-ramp and a speech to the american people is what is needed at this point

00:33:19.480 trita where do people go and uh to get your analysis and assessments over the quincy institute

00:33:23.800 your social media they can go to my twitter which is tparsi or go to the quincy institute's website which is

00:33:30.840 quincy inst.org thank you sir appreciate you thanks so much for having me brian thank you brian kennedy

00:33:38.440 uh knowing you as i know you i think you may have a different framing and a different perspective is

00:33:45.080 the reason we have you on here your thoughts are uh well thank you steve um we have no indication

00:33:51.320 whatsoever that the president thought this was going to be a quick couple day war and it was going to be in

00:33:56.840 and out they've done months and months of planning they've done they've moved a third of the navy over

00:34:03.160 there um i'm persuaded that the president sees this as part of world war three he's going to do

00:34:11.400 what it takes to make sure that iran does not have the capability of hurting the united states in the

00:34:17.240 region i don't think there was any indication that this was going to be quick when he says he wants to

00:34:22.760 have been a venezuelan style uh outcome he means a regime of the iranian people in the case of

00:34:30.840 venezuelans the venezuelan people who are running the place it's not our job to liberate the iranian 1.00

00:34:37.960 people if they do that great and and i agree with some of your earlier guests that's not an easy thing

00:34:43.480 to achieve the uh the iranian people are not jeffersonian democrats they practically invented

00:34:49.800 slavishness in so many ways they're not going to become a democratic regime in probably my lifetime 0.99

00:34:58.680 if that ever happens it will be because they decide that's what should happen the job of

00:35:03.880 president trump has been to make sure that they cannot cause harm to the united states this is not

00:35:09.640 going to be an easy thing we may run out of munitions good we'll make more munitions that's difficult

00:35:15.400 our defense industry is not quite up to speed on so many things but they should be working around

00:35:20.920 the clock to make sure that we have the munitions we need to defend the united states and so i think

00:35:27.720 in a way take a deep breath not you but you know anybody who's opposed to all this and just take this

00:35:33.240 for what it is part of the three that is playing out today that will over time accrue benefits to the

00:35:40.600 united states that's what president trump has articulated i'm gonna get uh captain finnell sent

00:35:46.440 me an amazing piece about this was the opening salvo in the indo-pacific age in the end of the

00:35:52.120 pacific war this is much more about that part of the eurasian landmass and all about the chinese

00:35:56.920 communist party but we'll do that at another time uh while i have you before we go to the to the east room

00:36:03.480 you wrote a brilliant piece and to me this is a priority um you wrote an incredible piece as only

00:36:11.640 you can about why you make the argument the president of the united states has to nationalize the elections

00:36:18.040 in 2026 brian kennedy can you walk me through a few points before we go to the east room yes um again

00:36:24.680 we're at war and when you're in a war you can't rely on a voting system that could any way be compromised and

00:36:33.480 because it's compromised undermine the authenticity of the election uh in this piece i argue that we

00:36:40.200 ought to uh ban the voting machines the electronic voting machines in part because they use chinese 1.00

00:36:46.680 hardware uh most most almost every single system we have uh operating in the united states even those

00:36:54.040 that are made in the united states use chinese hardware uh meaning uh computer chips what have you

00:37:01.320 that could easily compromise the system the democrats in in years past themselves were very concerned

00:37:09.480 about the ability of the machines to be compromised after they stole the 2020 election

00:37:14.520 that narrative went away uh so i'm encouraging the president because of the potential for foreign

00:37:19.960 interference to ban the voting machines once he does that you're going to have to have a nationwide

00:37:25.800 system where we use paper ballots voter id everything when do we need okay just logis just logistic this

00:37:33.080 thing's up on the blaze i want to thank the blaze for putting up uh brian kennedy's magnificent piece

00:37:38.120 and if mo and grace and uh elizabeth can push it out to everybody we need people to read it we're gonna

00:37:43.080 have you back on but just because i got to go to the east room here president's a couple minutes

00:37:46.600 going away brian let's let's say we assume let's say you're right there's no doubt just the logistics of

00:37:53.080 that one is the president of the united states if you were counseling him you would say hey your

00:37:58.040 drop dead date to announce this so we can get all the logistics done because it's a massive logistics

00:38:03.080 exercise when do you what's what's the kill date that on this side of it we can do it on that side of

00:38:09.160 it's too late i don't want to say it's already too late it's a massive logistical undertaking i would

00:38:16.920 do it this week there's talk of this eo executive order being on the president's desk already

00:38:22.840 he needs to sign it this week and get talk about that give me a minute give me a minute on that eo

00:38:27.800 because the save america act is not going to get passed at least not on capitol hill they're in a

00:38:32.200 firestorm they're going to try to drag trump over the coals today on the war powers act uh so that's

00:38:37.560 not even the students not going to address it the executive order what do you know about it and what

00:38:41.560 does it need to say about this specific part of nationalizing the elections as a national security

00:38:47.560 effort it says most of most of the right things but it leaves in the hand the current executive

00:38:54.680 order will ban most of the electronic voting but not all of the electronic voting uh it does much of

00:39:02.280 the right thing steve but we cannot leave any of the machines or tabulators or what have you

00:39:07.400 we can't leave any of that in place it is mostly pretty pretty good and pretty sound what i don't

00:39:13.400 what what's going to have to happen though is that states are going to have to sign some kind of consent

00:39:18.520 decree where they agree to follow a system in their state imagine the state of of california for instance

00:39:27.160 yeah they're going to have to sign an agreement they're going to have paper ballots counted by human

00:39:32.360 beings voter id etc i guess they're going to cut the money off yeah we're going to cut the money off i

00:39:37.480 guess right well one of two things could happen either we're going to with mike johnson and john

00:39:44.200 thune again not not the strongest of reads here but they're going to have to say if you don't follow

00:39:50.440 this system we're not going to see sit those members of congress or the senate that get elected

00:39:56.040 it's pure and simple stop stop right there that's no that's not desirable that's not that's going

00:40:02.360 viral that's going that's not desirable let me let me say that's not desirable okay all because a

00:40:10.360 third of the country would not have be represented the more commonsensical thing is to have a federal

00:40:15.560 system where either you you nationalize the national guard or federalize the national guard in each

00:40:21.400 state to oversee this but they have to consent to some kind of some kind of system where they

00:40:27.560 actually carry out the paper ballots and the voter id and the hand counting either we're going to take

00:40:33.480 this seriously or we're not or not yes and you're thinking serious where do people go to get it where's

00:40:38.760 social media we got to bounce to go to the white house uh where they go uh it's on the blaze.com uh

00:40:45.160 uh i'm at i'm at x uh i'm brian t kennedy one uh it's i put it up on there it's uh brian t kennedy

00:40:54.760 on um get her in true social thank you thank you sir appreciate you forego though we got kurt mills

00:41:00.200 kurt what do you think trita parsi said hey you don't need to talk to the iranian people you need

00:41:04.280 to talk to the american people if you're advising the president united states right now before he walks

00:41:08.440 out what is your guidance and what you think he should say to the american people sir

00:41:12.760 he should explain a clear rationale about why they did this um address the potential and i think

00:41:21.560 clear contradictions by other administration officials and hill hawks and neoconservatives

00:41:26.040 and the israelis our partners over there and then additionally he should explain the path to an off-ramp

00:41:32.600 and how this is going to be a quick military exercise frankly and that we are going uh to leave

00:41:38.520 i think he should additionally very importantly and most importantly speak to the anxieties within

00:41:44.440 his own base and within the broad swath tens of millions of americans who gave this guy a chance

00:41:49.880 because he was a different type of republican opposed to regime change war opposed endless wars and

00:41:55.320 opposed to the middle eastern expansion uh imperial project and i think he should explain why this is

00:42:00.920 different and why he's not going to be george w bush i think he should address it directly i don't think

00:42:05.560 he should take for granted his supporters and i think he should explain uh why this is not a bad

00:42:11.320 deja vu trip to 2006. what about he's said over and over again he's decapitated the regime from the

00:42:18.360 senior level from ayatollah the 40 top guys like ninajad and others right we understand it goes much

00:42:26.120 deeper you know don't you believe he has don't you believe he's gone a long way to taking out the bad

00:42:31.080 guys and that there is some you know this roman punitive uh punch that you can do and then toss

00:42:37.240 it to who's left and just just go or you don't believe that because are you saying tom cotton and

00:42:41.640 lindsey graham are pitching something else on capitol hill i think clearly tom cotton and lindsey graham

00:42:46.840 are pitching something else on on capitol hill i think basically uh they're selling him a bill of

00:42:51.320 goods the president has bought some of the items on the menu but not all of the items on the menu

00:42:56.440 lindsey graham and tom cotton are old guard 2000s george w bush era neoconservatives they are taking

00:43:03.400 what they can get uh from this uh uh from this president and they're frankly they're driving him

00:43:08.760 as uh pjr work the late great pjr work said they're driving the president like a rented car

00:43:14.200 they're going to move on from him whenever he leaves the scene and they're going to continue their

00:43:17.720 ideology into the 2030s if they're unfortunately still in government um i think to the question of

00:43:23.160 decapitation uh within the iranian government yeah they removed the head of state uh ali khamenei

00:43:30.520 but as mentioned earlier in the segment there is an entire apparatus beneath them and i do have to

00:43:34.920 flag the pentagon did a 500 million dollar war game on this in 2002 granted a lot of things have changed

00:43:41.080 the tactics have changed but strategically they identified one key part of what this would look

00:43:46.200 like which is that the iranians would be extremely resilient to leadership decapitation strikes

00:43:52.120 that they would they would just go next man up as you would say and uh they would prepare from there

00:43:57.640 and additionally to an extent uh like a lot of modern societies iran has lapsed into gerontocracy uh

00:44:04.840 if you remove the gerontocrats you're just installing younger potentially more able more vicious uh 0.98

00:44:10.600 successors now there's also opportunity there maybe they're these are people that will understand the

00:44:15.000 u.s system and negotiate more um pragmatically than their predecessors but i don't fail to see how this is

00:44:21.320 actually going to collapse the regime i think uh the u.s needs to be moved moved towards number one

00:44:27.080 telling israel no this will never stop unless the president tells netanyahu that he's out on this for

00:44:33.880 the rest of his term uh what do you mean by that i mean because isn't part of the part of the off-ramp

00:44:41.160 as you hit them you've done as much regime change as you can you toss the keys and then you tell israel 0.70

00:44:46.520 hey if you want to continue on you you guys go for it i mean we can't we should not try to control

00:44:51.720 them if they want to go for it as long as we're not involved do you have any problem with that

00:44:57.240 it's just not what the israeli policy is it's just not what netanyahu's policy is i mean this

00:45:01.080 this goes back you know jack masovic has mentioned it earlier i think he did a documentary or something

00:45:05.160 on it but the clean break memo authored on june 1st uh 1996 so 30 years ago this year um argued that

00:45:12.840 the u.s and israel should ally to quote break uh different countries in the middle east and quote

00:45:20.360 secure the realm what is securing the realm is greater israel um i think you know it's not as if

00:45:26.520 uh the u.s was totally naive they thought this would work they thought that the u.s and that national

00:45:30.840 interests and israeli national interests were potentially the same but it's not it makes

00:45:34.520 sense and for a certainty it's really hard cut cut cut hang on one second we're going to the uh east uh room

00:46:00.840 ladies and gentlemen please bow with me as i ask god's blessings upon this ceremony almighty god

00:46:12.520 your steady hand has guided this republic for nearly 250 years from its birth in the wilderness to this

00:46:21.800 very hour we come to you now with grateful hearts we assemble here today to honor men

00:46:30.680 who when the test came were steadfast and unmovable we thank you for the unyielding conviction of master

00:46:40.040 sergeant roderick edmunds who looked evil in the eyes and did not flinch and we thank you for the

00:46:49.080 battlefield grit of command sergeant major terry richardson courage that saved lives in vietnam

00:46:56.680 and courage that stands before us today and lord we thank you for staff sergeant michael ollis who in a

00:47:06.600 final selfless act made his own body a shield for a friend bless the family and friends of these great men of

00:47:17.160 honor oh lord and forbid that we leave this place as mere admirers of their heroic deeds plant in our hearts

00:47:27.080 a measure of their courage that we might prove worthy of the freedom for which they and generations before

00:47:35.720 them defended lord now let the light of liberty continue to shine on our great nation we pray in the strong

00:47:46.520 name of the one who guides us this will defend amen

00:47:51.960 thank you very much chaplain green wonderful job appreciate it and thank everybody for

00:48:07.800 for being here and please feel free to sit

00:48:17.640 so before we begin this important ceremony and there's no ceremony that can be much more important

00:48:23.640 than this let me provide a brief update on operation epic fury today the united states military

00:48:32.520 continues to carry out large-scale combat operations in iran to eliminate the grave threats posed to america by this

00:48:41.400 terrible terrorist regime following our obliteration of iran's nuclear program in operation midnight hammer 0.82

00:48:51.800 a short while ago we warned iran not to make any attempt to rebuild at a different location because

00:48:59.160 they were unable to use the ones that we so powerfully blew up but they ignored those warnings and

00:49:06.520 refused to cease their pursuit of nuclear weapons in addition the regime's conventional ballistic missile

00:49:13.240 program was growing rapidly and dramatically and this posed a very clear colossal threat to america and

00:49:20.200 our forces stationed overseas the regime already had missiles capable of hitting europe

00:49:26.040 and our bases both local and overseas and would soon have had missiles capable of reaching

00:49:33.560 our beautiful america the purpose of this fast-growing missile program was to shield their nuclear

00:49:39.960 weapon development and make it extraordinarily difficult for anyone to stop them from making these highly

00:49:46.040 forbidden by us nuclear weapons we were the ones that were complaining we were the ones that wanted it

00:49:53.800 stopped but everybody was behind us they just didn't have the courage to say so

00:50:00.040 an iranian regime armed with long-range missiles and nuclear weapons would be an intolerable threat 0.65

00:50:06.840 to the middle east but also to the american people our country itself

00:50:13.800 would be under threat and it was very nearly under threat

00:50:17.000 i was very proud to have knocked out the iran nuclear deal by president barack hussein obama that

00:50:24.680 was a horrible horrible dangerous document they would have had nuclear weapons

00:50:30.440 three years ago and they would have used them but i'll not let that happen

00:50:36.760 for almost 47 years this regime has been attacking the united states and killing americans every time you see 0.95

00:50:44.680 someone with missing arms and legs or a face that's been absolutely shattered violently it was almost

00:50:51.960 certainly caused by an iran roadside bomb they were put there by general soleimani who was the

00:51:03.160 father of the roadside bomb very proudly he thought but i terminated him in

00:51:09.160 in my first term this was our last best chance to strike what we're doing right now and eliminate the

00:51:18.280 intolerable threats posed by this sick and sinister machine regime and they are indeed sick and sinister

00:51:27.240 our objectives are clear first we're destroying our ends missile capabilities and you see that happening

00:51:34.760 on an hourly basis and their capacity to produce brand new ones and pretty good ones they make

00:51:41.400 second we're annihilating their navy we've knocked out already 10 ships

00:51:47.480 they're at the bottom of the sea third we're ensuring that the world's number one sponsor of terror 1.00

00:51:54.520 through a weapon never going to have a nuclear weapon i said that from the beginning they're never going to

00:51:58.680 have a nuclear weapon they were on the road to getting one legitimately through a deal that was signed

00:52:06.520 foolishly by our country and finally we're ensuring that the iranian regime cannot continue to arm fund and

00:52:15.400 direct terrorist armies outside of their borders and we thought we had a deal but then they backed out

00:52:22.920 and they came back that you can't deal with these people you got to do it the right way today we grieve

00:52:30.200 for the four heroic american service members who have been killed in action and send our love and support

00:52:37.240 to their families in their memory we continue this mission with ferocious unyielding resolve to crush the

00:52:45.160 threat this terrorist regime a threat indeed it is we have the strongest and most powerful

00:52:52.680 by far military in the world and we will easily prevail we're already substantially ahead of our

00:53:03.720 time projections but whatever the time is it's okay whatever it takes we will always

00:53:10.200 and we have from right from the beginning we projected four to five weeks but we have capability to go

00:53:18.440 far longer than that we'll do it whatever somebody said today they said oh well the president wants

00:53:24.360 to do it really quickly after that he'll get bored i don't get bored there's nothing boring about this

00:53:29.960 do you agree with that pete i don't think there's anything mr general i think there's nothing boring

00:53:35.000 about it somebody actually said from the media i think he'll get bored after about a week or two no we

00:53:41.400 don't get bored i never get bored if i got bored i wouldn't be standing here right now i guarantee you that

00:53:47.160 to go through what i had to go through we also projected four weeks to terminate

00:53:54.600 a military leadership and as you know that was done in about an hour so we're

00:53:58.680 ahead of schedule there by a lot but please join me in thanking every american service member who

00:54:05.560 bravely is standing in harm's way they really are incredible and i just want to thank you we have

00:54:10.680 a lot of them right here thank you very much thank you

00:54:26.600 thank you everybody we have a lot of great service members here with us too in this beautiful

00:54:32.040 building isn't it beautiful we're adding on to the building a little bit we're improving the building

00:54:38.280 see that nice drape when that comes down right now you see a very very deep hole

00:54:44.280 but in about a year and a half from now you're going to see a very very beautiful building

00:54:48.680 and there's your entrance to it right there in fact it looks so nice i don't think i'll even i

00:54:52.520 think i'll save money on the doors because it can't get more beautiful than that i picked those drapes in

00:54:58.360 my first term i always like gold but i think we can save a lot of money i just saved i just saved

00:55:05.720 curtains but uh and it will be it'll be spectacular be the most beautiful ball i believe it because i

00:55:12.760 built many a ballroom i believe it's going to be the most beautiful ballroom anywhere in the world and

00:55:17.880 when you hear all that hammering out there you know why the first lady is not thrilled exactly 0.83

00:55:23.480 she said will the pile drivers ever stop you know they go from six in the morning

00:55:27.960 till 11 30 in the evening can you imagine here you know what to me that's a beautiful sound she

00:55:35.560 doesn't like it i love it you know what to me other than here because we're donating it not a

00:55:41.240 penny to the taxpayer it'll be under budget ahead of schedule it'll be 400 million or less most people

00:55:49.400 say 400 million or more no it'll be less but uh when i hear that sound that beautiful sound behind me

00:55:56.440 it means money so i like it but my wife isn't thrilled it's getting crazy it'll i said don't

00:56:02.600 worry about it we'll be all finished up in a few months but now for the reason that we're gathered

00:56:08.680 this morning to recognize the unsurpassed courage of three really incredible american heroes one living

00:56:15.720 and two no longer with us so together we recognize the exceptional valor of master sergeant roderick

00:56:27.080 edmonds and maybe i could ask your families to stand because they're beautiful families i got do you owe

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Bannon's War Room - March 02, 2026

Episode 5182： Destroying the Basic Apparatus Of Iran While The Regime Still Survives

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