Bannon's War Room - Episode 5187： American Air Defense Continues In Iran; Updates On Operation Epic Fury

00:00:00.000 to allow a flawed, self-centered, and shameless candidate like Ken Paxton risk everything we've

00:00:08.540 worked so hard to build over these many years. John Cornyn has failed this time and time again.

00:00:14.940 In his over 40 years of office, you cannot name one single accomplishment

00:00:18.780 that he's done to help the state of Texas. So the runoff there is May 26th, and the winner

00:00:26.320 will face state lawmaker James Tallarico, who won the Democratic primary overnight,

00:00:31.020 defeating Congresswoman Jasmine Croggett. Control of the Senate could be at stake here. The Texas

00:00:36.220 race could be a tipping point. On the Republican side, we are expecting this to be quite a

00:00:42.080 contentious battle. Things have already been heated between Cornyn and Paxton, and that is expected to

00:00:46.880 continue in the coming weeks. We heard Cornyn and Paxton both preview some of their lines of attack

00:00:52.760 last night. Paxton decried the amount of money that was poured into the state to try to boost

00:00:57.540 Cornyn. That was more than $70 million on behalf of Cornyn efforts, really adding to why this became

00:01:04.520 one of the most expensive Senate primaries in U.S. history. Cornyn, meanwhile, has really warned about

00:01:10.960 Paxton's past controversies, his legal and personal scandals, that Cornyn believes will be a drag on

00:01:17.760 Republicans if he becomes the nominee in November. One big question going forward, though, is whether

00:01:23.120 President Donald Trump decides to get into this runoff, decides to endorse a candidate, something

00:01:28.120 he declined to do in the primary, but he's left the door open to. That's certainly something that

00:01:31.860 both camps are pushing for over the next 12 weeks.

00:01:35.220 ...over Tehran, flying over Iran, flying over their capital, flying over the IRGC, Iranian leaders

00:01:43.580 looking up and seeing only U.S. and Israeli air power every minute of every day until we decide

00:01:54.840 it's over. And Iran will be able to do nothing about it. B-2s, B-52s, B-1s, predator drones, fighters, 0.93

00:02:04.680 fighters, controlling the skies, picking targets. Death and destruction from the sky all day long.

00:02:14.680 We're playing for keeps. Our warfighters have maximum authorities granted personally by the

00:02:19.680 President and yours truly. Our rules of engagement are bold, precise, and designed to unleash American

00:02:27.040 power, not shackle it. This was never meant to be a fair fight, and it is not a fair fight. We are

00:02:35.680 punching them while they're down, which is exactly how it should be. Thus far, Operation Epic Fury has 0.89

00:02:43.200 delivered twice the air power of shock and awe of Iraq in 2003, minus Paul Bremer and the nation

00:02:51.040 building. The campaign has seven times the intensity of Israel's previous operations against Iran during

00:02:58.160 the 12-day war. Seven times. And as President Trump said, more and larger waves are coming. We are just

00:03:06.640 getting started. We are accelerating, not decelerating. Iran's capabilities are evaporating by the hour, 1.00

00:03:13.760 while American strength grows fiercer, smarter, and utterly dominant. More bombers and more fighters

00:03:19.600 are arriving just today.

00:03:21.760 I think overperformed. Senator Cornyn overperformed. I early on thought Paxton was going to probably get

00:03:27.680 more votes, but now people are just assuming Cornyn's going to win. But if I were a Cornyn supporter,

00:03:34.960 there'd be a lot of alarm bells going off right now. First of all, he's an establishment figure.

00:03:39.600 Secondly, this is a runoff, and I know better than anybody. I lost my initial primary. I won my

00:03:48.000 runoff easily first time I ran because I was crazy. Well, I still am. I exaggerated a little bit,

00:03:56.000 but I was intense, man. And I had the base following me. And I knew if I got in the runoff,

00:04:01.920 I'd win the runoff because the most driven people vote in the runoff. I'd be worried about that if I

00:04:06.960 were Cornyn. Also, something else that you can speak to very well, the 2020 election.

00:04:14.720 Ken Paxton led Texans in stirring up bulls**t conspiracy theories in 2020 for Donald Trump.

00:04:24.320 Ted Cruz supported stirring up the conspiracy theories, the unproven conspiracy theories.

00:04:31.280 John Cornyn did not. And he called them unproven. And he voted to actually, you know,

00:04:38.880 go along with the 2020 election. I'm just curious, John, you wrote the book on the big lie and you

00:04:46.000 follow the president. Is there any issue that's more important to him on a loyalty test and where

00:04:53.040 people fell in the 2020 election? And if that's the case, I just, I understand he wants to win

00:04:57.920 Texas, but how in the world does he not endorse the guy who lied the most for him in 2020

00:05:08.160 and vote and endorse instead John Cornyn, the guy who said, no, no, no, those theories are all

00:05:14.320 unproven. What do you assess the enemy's control and command status is right now? And can you

00:05:20.960 broadly describe our decisive point in this operation?

00:05:25.600 Oh, I won't describe the decisive point in the operation because that would tell the bad guys

00:05:29.520 what it was. That's a good question though. I appreciate the question. They're C2 structures

00:05:34.560 in a bad way. Admiral Cooper's been continuing to pressure C2 at the IRGC, C2 and other military

00:05:42.720 elements and will continue to do so. And now with complete control of the skies,

00:05:48.960 we will be using 500 pound, 1000 pound and 2000 pound GPS and laser guided precision gravity bombs

00:05:58.000 of which we have a nearly unlimited stockpile. We used more exquisite standoff munitions at the start,

00:06:05.280 but no longer need to. Our stockpiles of those as well as Patriots remains extremely strong.

00:06:13.360 The enemy can no longer shoot the volume of missiles they once did, not even close. And the

00:06:18.720 chairman will lay out some of those percentages. So our air defenses and that of our allies have

00:06:23.840 plenty of runway. We can sustain this fight easily for as long as we need to. And as I said yesterday,

00:06:32.400 we set the terms. The Iranian air force is no more built for 1996 destroyed in 2026. The Iranian Navy

00:06:43.760 rests at the bottom of the Persian Gulf combat, ineffective, decimated, destroyed, defeated,

00:06:50.880 pick your adjective. In fact, last night, we sunk their prize ship, the Soleimani. Looks like POTUS got him

00:07:00.240 twice. Their Navy, not a factor. Pick your adjective. It is no more. In fact, yesterday in the Indian Ocean,

00:07:09.520 and we'll play it on the screen there, an American submarine sunk an Iranian warship

00:07:15.200 that thought it was safe in international waters. Instead, it was sunk by a torpedo.

00:07:21.920 Quiet death. The first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II.

00:07:28.960 Like in that war, back when we were still the War Department, we are fighting to win.

00:07:34.720 Also, yesterday, the leader of the unit who attempted to assassinate President Trump has

00:07:42.160 been hunted down and killed. Iran tried to kill President Trump and President Trump got the last 0.87

00:07:48.560 laugh. So one of the strange things about Trump's presidency, and this is actually even different

00:07:55.920 from some dictatorships. I mean, there are a lot of dictatorships before they go to war would do a

00:08:00.880 propaganda campaign, as the Russians did, for example, before attacking Ukraine. They would 0.67

00:08:05.440 spend months talking about the enemy and so on. But Trump's method of leadership is

00:08:14.720 often called personalist. So he does what he feels like in any given moment. His main aim is to win the

00:08:23.840 current moment, whatever that is. So whether it's a confrontation with a journalist or whether it's a

00:08:29.040 confrontation with a foreign enemy, to be seen as the dominant person or the dominant figure in

00:08:34.640 the room or the conversation or of the moment. And it looks like that's what he did here. In other

00:08:41.600 words, there was no particular plan. There was no clear goal. But he felt that this was a moment when

00:08:48.160 he could demonstrate his dominance and he could win somehow. You know, of course, he doesn't win.

00:08:53.520 And then he'll walk away and say he won anyway. But the consequences of that for Americans, for

00:09:01.120 you know, for anybody in the Middle East and actually for Iranians, you know, the Iranian people

00:09:05.440 don't seem to have been at the center of this of this operation at all. There's been no attempt to

00:09:11.200 think about who might who might rule Iran next or how the Iranian Democratic opposition might come to

00:09:18.240 power or might become at least have influence inside the country. You know, instead, he's speaking about,

00:09:22.800 oh, well, there were some other military leaders. There were some other members of the Islamic

00:09:27.280 Republic who he imagined they would take over as in as in Venezuela. So it's this personalist way

00:09:32.960 of running the country. You know, there's no policy process. There's no presentation of different

00:09:38.800 points of view. There's no consideration of alternatives. There's no internal debate inside the White

00:09:45.280 House. And then there's no external debate in the country. There's no public debate. There's no

00:09:50.400 debate with Congress. As we've already as I've already said, there's no debate with allies. In

00:09:54.640 other words, there's no attempt to create any kind of consensus or movement or agreement,

00:10:00.320 even if it's a minority consensus. And that's very unusual, actually, not just in American history,

00:10:06.720 but anywhere. I mean, the that the whims of a of an individual leader would would would make these

00:10:14.320 life and death dramatic decisions without any input from anybody else, which is certainly what

00:10:18.720 it looks like from the outside. This is this is this is very strange and it's likely to produce very

00:10:25.360 erratic and unpredictable outcomes. Now, this is not a mission accomplished situation.

00:10:32.160 This is simply a reality check. The combination of U.S. and Israeli intelligence and combat power 0.71

00:10:41.920 will control Iran and will control it soon. Sure, Iran will still be able to shoot some missiles 0.99

00:10:49.840 and still be able to launch one way attack drones at civilian targets. And their proxies will attempt

00:10:55.040 to attack our embassy's bases in soft targets. They are terrorists, after all. And they need 0.92

00:11:02.080 to target civilians because they can't fight toe to toe. But we will find them and we will kill them. 1.00

00:11:10.800 This is what the fake news misses. We've taken control of Iran's airspace and waterways 0.99

00:11:17.040 without boots on the ground. We control their fate. But when a few drones get through

00:11:24.640 or tragic things happen, it's front page news. I get it. The press only wants to make the president look

00:11:30.800 bad. But try for once to report the reality. The terms of this war will be set by us at every step.

00:11:38.720 It's a real litmus test and a dilemma for Trump because the 2020 big lie is still at the heart of

00:11:44.080 so much what he's talking about to this day. He's still talking about it now and raising fears about

00:11:50.160 what will happen in 26 and 28. Congressman Dan Crenshaw, who also spoke out against the Stop the

00:11:55.360 Steal effort, lost a Republican primary yesterday in Texas. So he will be out. He crossed Trump.

00:12:01.440 Cornyn also disagreed with Trump. So, yes, it's true. There's a lot of political people.

00:12:06.720 Trump's advisers are saying Cornyn's the safest pick, Dave Weigel, because they believe he has

00:12:13.360 a better shot to win in the general election. I have been talking to advisers in the last couple

00:12:18.000 of days saying there's some momentum for Trump to do that. I think David Drucker is right that if

00:12:22.160 Cornyn had lost even by any number, maybe Trump can't. But because he's more or less pulled even,

00:12:27.440 he could justify it and say, I'll put you over the top. But I'm not 100 percent sure he will

00:12:32.960 for all the points that Joe just raised. And Democrats are simply salivating at the possibility

00:12:38.960 of taking on PACs. And so this is the Republican Party. This is my party in this hour at this at this

00:12:46.880 moment, which is why it needs such an incredible political enema, unlike any we've ever seen.

00:12:53.040 That's quite a visual. Thank you for that. Thank you very much.

00:12:58.000 As I said Monday, the mission is laser focused. Obliterate Iran's missiles and drones and facilities 1.00

00:13:04.480 that produce them. Annihilate its Navy and critical security infrastructure and sever their pathway to 0.59

00:13:10.160 nuclear weapons. Iran will never possess a nuclear bomb, not on our watch, not ever. And this is why 0.77

00:13:18.080 President Trump's moral clarity on Iran today is so vital. Unlike the past where vague red lines and

00:13:24.400 endless negotiations let Iran fund terror and inch ever so slightly toward a bomb, this president sees 0.51

00:13:31.440 the threat plainly and acts decisively. No more half measures, especially when Iran is at its weakest. 0.95

00:13:38.160 No more letting Tehran play for time while our people pay the price. 0.98

00:13:41.600 His leadership ensures that we finish what we start and that we protect our warfighters by crushing

00:13:48.800 the enemy before they can strike again. Our offensive operations, refined through months of relentless

00:13:55.280 preparation, are unstoppable. And our defensive efforts are unprecedented. In closing, as President

00:14:04.080 Trump told German Chancellor Mertz yesterday, Iran negotiated in bad faith, stalling, scheming, and

00:14:11.440 preparing to strike. And we acted decisively to defend our people, our interests, and our allies.

00:14:19.280 President Trump took bold action, putting America first, the kind of bold action that the American

00:14:25.280 people elected him to execute. To our steadfast partner Israel, your mission is being executed with 0.89

00:14:34.320 unmatched skill and iron determination. Fighting shoulder to shoulder with such a capable ally is a

00:14:41.440 true force multiplier and a breath of fresh air. We salute your courage and your contribution.

00:14:49.600 Four days in, we have only just begun to fight. America fights to win. And in Operation Epic Fury, we are.

00:15:04.640 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these

00:15:13.040 people. The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have

00:15:19.440 had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in

00:15:23.280 the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like

00:15:26.960 that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a

00:15:35.200 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my

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00:17:19.120 It's Wednesday for March in the year of our Lord, 2026. Okay. So we're going to have to,

00:17:28.480 we're going to bifurcate our show here. We're going to talk a politics in Texas politics specifically,

00:17:35.440 uh, in the second hour, we have a number of people. Luke Macias is going to join us to break down.

00:17:42.640 It's actually a very good night, uh, in the Texas house and other places, some congressional races

00:17:48.320 for conservatives. I wanted to have Brian Harrison won with 53% of the votes. There's no runoff there.

00:17:53.520 There are some runoffs. We're going to go through all that. Um, I do want to start with the military

00:17:58.800 briefing first, because I think that we have to work through these issues collectively this morning.

00:18:04.560 I do want to say a thank you to real America's voice, Parker and Rob Sieg, the entire team,

00:18:10.080 particularly our team in Denver that worked so hard, my own team here, everybody associated with

00:18:15.600 War Room Texas, uh, and the folks that not just came on the show, but help drive the show in the

00:18:22.800 background. Uh, last night, I think the secretary of state's showing on the website, almost 2 million

00:18:29.120 votes for proposition 10 to prohibit Sharia law. This was done really in a campaign that kicked

00:18:34.480 off with this conferences dinner that was put on. I want to thank Gert Wilders for coming over,

00:18:41.360 uh, from Holland to actually, uh, the Netherlands to, to show us what would happen if we didn't

00:18:47.440 thwart this really want to thank Glenn Beck for adding his, uh, putting his shoulder to the wheel.

00:18:53.280 Uh, and every, everybody else associated Grant Stinchfield, who was a host that night.

00:18:57.360 And then everybody that came up, we, this was a, uh, had no money, had really no visibility.

00:19:03.680 And, um, with everybody pitching in here, true grassroots effort, I believe the combined number,

00:19:09.200 I believe the number was actually, uh, more than Cornyn and Paxton combined, but I'll,

00:19:14.960 I'll do that math here in a moment. Um, but it shows you what a strong, um, issue people here in

00:19:23.840 the state understand this. We did give a permission structure for the first time to have an open

00:19:28.080 conversation of this. And I want to thank governor Abbott for, uh, declaring, uh, the Muslim 0.97

00:19:33.280 brotherhood and care as terrorists, international terrorist organizations also for Brian Harrison

00:19:38.320 and other people that said, Hey, we got to have hearings on this now. Uh, and then we have to have

00:19:42.880 a special session at the legislature, the, uh, conservatives and the Republicans in the state

00:19:49.040 of Texas have spoken with one voice. They're not going to give up their country. If you heard Tommy

00:19:53.920 Robinson want to thank Tommy for joining Ben Burkwam last night at Paxton headquarters, Tommy,

00:20:00.480 we had about six or seven minutes with him in the last segment of, uh, I think the second hour.

00:20:05.200 And Tommy laid it out exactly what happened to his country, exactly what happened to England

00:20:10.160 and what happened particularly to London. As you know, we had Peter McElvaney on here or not. So

00:20:14.160 this is the beginning of the second, um, wave of this effort, but, uh, to come together with a state,

00:20:21.520 the size of a country worth literally no money, uh, and, and, and no organization, but kind of to ride

00:20:27.040 to the sound of the guns, the grassroots organizations in this state, which are enormously, enormously

00:20:32.560 powerful, uh, is just, and great people, uh, show what you can do, uh, when you, um, when you pull

00:20:39.520 together, let's go back to the business at hand, uh, which is not that that's not the business we'll

00:20:45.920 do in the second hour and, and Luke Macias and others, uh, we'll come on, um, uh, Debbie

00:20:51.680 your goddess and others, uh, we'll come on and walk us through what a, what a big night it was

00:20:57.440 for MAGA and what a big night it was for conservatives throughout Texas. And of course,

00:21:01.040 we have the issue before us of the, of the, uh, Senate race. So we'll get to all that.

00:21:05.360 But Captain for now, Brandon Weikert, I think you guys have done a really good job of kind

00:21:10.240 of walking through. And I think this is very important. I think that's why the briefing

00:21:14.560 we're getting there. And I realized for OPSEC, we're not going to probably have a Norman Schwarzkopf

00:21:19.280 type, but we're getting there with the Pentagon, hopefully every couple of days doing this.

00:21:24.640 But I want to go through and do a level set here, Captain Fennell, because our audience wants,

00:21:29.280 there's a lot of going back and forth should be done. Hey, there's plenty of time for that.

00:21:34.160 Right now we have sailors, airmen and troops in harm's way. We have to collectively come together

00:21:41.200 as MAGA and make sure we just understand what is actually going on and what is the process here

00:21:46.160 and what's the methodology. And I think I've got two of the, and of course with Thayer and Faddis and

00:21:51.440 others, we've got really level heads that are professionals been doing this for a long time.

00:21:56.320 Captain Fennell, I'll start with you. As you've been going through this, you, you've actually laid out

00:22:00.880 target patches, et cetera. Given what you've seen overnight, given the briefing you saw from

00:22:06.160 Secretary of War Hegseth and particularly General Raising Cain, your thoughts of where we are?

00:22:13.280 Well, Steve, I say that we are what Admiral Cooper, the commander of Central Command said last night

00:22:20.000 from his assessment is that we are ahead of the game plan. So with just over 100 hours in, 2,000

00:22:27.920 targets have been struck, dedicated target lists that's probably got still more targets on that

00:22:34.240 dedicated target list. But we have struck those strategic targets, both in Tehran, missile sites,

00:22:42.000 missile production facilities, their Navy, and any associated known terrorist locations and compounds

00:22:50.560 and training centers and things of that nature. So we've gone through, in four days, a systematic

00:22:56.960 destruction of those major four categories of targets. Concurrently, we have been also rolling back

00:23:04.240 their air defense capability, both strategically and along the coast, as General Cain just showed us in

00:23:11.440 that chart in his briefing. And now we're moving, as he said, we're transitioning from standoff weapons

00:23:17.440 into stand-in weapons. And I think this will help address some of the concerns. It's obvious in the last

00:23:22.960 48 hours or the last 24 hours, lots of commentary, lots of articles about munition levels. But the reality is,

00:23:30.480 we are now moving away from having to be exclusively tied to standoff weapons like a tomahawk or something

00:23:37.280 else like that. And we can now start using general purpose bombs that have all kinds of different kind

00:23:43.840 of kits on them, like the JDAM, Joint Direct Attack Munition, which essentially takes an old World War II

00:23:51.920 Vietnam War bomb that we had many of these. And you put fins on the back and you put sensor fuses on the

00:23:58.800 front and you're able to glide these things in very precision. And we're going to be able to expand and

00:24:05.120 roll back even further now. That'll give us more air superiority. General Cain said we have local air

00:24:11.440 superiority in the southern tier of Iran. We've destroyed their navy. Now 20 ships destroyed. 17 last

00:24:18.800 night. This morning we have in the briefing. So, two briefings in 12 hours. 17 ships killed yesterday

00:24:26.000 night, now 20. And with the one that was actually sunk by a torpedo, first time since World War II,

00:24:32.800 of Iranian frigate off the coast of Sri Lanka. This is outside of the immediate theater of operations,

00:24:40.000 but it just shows the completeness of our targeting and our awareness of what's going on. And so I think

00:24:46.160 this is really a testament to the detailed planning. I heard one of your cold opens talk about there's no

00:24:52.000 planning and no thinking. Clearly, I disagree with that. I think there's been a hell of a lot of

00:24:56.960 planning, a hell of a lot of thinking, and we're systematically going through it. And then what we're

00:25:02.000 now able to do, as Admiral Cooper mentioned last night, we're in this phase of dynamic targeting, which when

00:25:08.800 I was in service, we called time-sensitive targeting, which means now that we have local air

00:25:13.760 superiority, we can fly and observe. We have exquisite intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance

00:25:20.160 that allows us to observe anybody that's going to come out of a tunnel, a cave, or anything like

00:25:25.680 that. And if they move, we're going to be able to destroy those resources. And that's why the ballistic missile

00:25:33.760 launches went down 86% since the first day, and the drone launches have gone down by 73% since the first

00:25:42.480 day. They're still out there, but our ability to be more time on target to take out those that are

00:25:48.960 coming out of their bunkers is going to increase. So I see us tightening the noose. It's an anaconda,

00:25:55.360 if you will. We're slowly strangling off their conventional military forces to will, as Admiral

00:26:01.600 Cooper said last night, we want to kill everything that they have that can shoot at us outside of 0.99

00:26:07.360 their borders. And I think that we're, we are on the process to do that. And we're, we just need 0.99

00:26:14.480 to keep at it and not give up. Captain, before we go to break, and Brandon is joining us right after

00:26:20.560 the break, as we go to break, as you listen to Admiral Cooper, CENCOM, and we're going to try to,

00:26:26.080 we've got a package on Admiral Cooper. If I can't play it this morning, I'm going to play it this

00:26:29.920 afternoon because it's very important. He's CENCOM commander. He's the combatant commander.

00:26:34.160 Uh, Raisin Cain, General Cain is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and senior military advisor to

00:26:41.120 the president. Do you, have we bifurcated this? Is the American, are we taking out command and control?

00:26:48.400 Are we taking out, um, uh, you know, to get air superiority, to take out their naval forces,

00:26:55.440 ballistic missiles? The thing that Pete Hegseth walked through, what our objectives are. Are

00:26:59.360 now, are the Israelis the ones targeting, uh, specifically the senior command structure

00:27:05.680 and personnel of the, uh, of the Iranians, of both the Mullahs and the, uh, and the, uh,

00:27:11.440 Revolutionary Guard?

00:27:13.680 Uh, from what I've seen, the Israelis are attacking military forces as well.

00:27:18.240 I think we're, I think there's a shared intelligence there. I think they have better

00:27:23.360 awareness of maybe some of the, uh, senior government officials, maybe some of the IRGC,

00:27:29.840 Islamic, Iranian Revolutionary Guard leadership, military leadership. So I don't know the specific

00:27:35.600 divvying up of the percentages. I'm, I'm guessing that it's more likely that the Israelis are doing 1.00

00:27:40.960 more of the, uh, leadership of Iran and the military and the government. And we're doing more of the

00:27:46.560 conventional military targets, especially the ballistic missile launchers, ballistic missiles,

00:27:52.560 the command and control of their, uh, military forces, their radar sites. That's why you're not

00:27:58.000 seeing any firings of their coastal defense cruise missiles, because their radars have been destroyed.

00:28:03.680 Hang on one second. We're taking a short commercial break. Captain James Fennell,

00:28:08.800 Brandon Weikert, next on the military situation in Iran.

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00:31:14.400 uh, Admiral Cooper is the combatant commander. Remember, I've always said the three most powerful

00:31:19.440 institutions in Washington, DC are the CIA, the federal reserve and CENCOM. He's the CENCOM. 0.60

00:31:24.800 We've still never had as hard as, as hard as captain Fennell ourselves, the first term,

00:31:31.040 we've never really had the pivot to Asia. I'd like to say we pulled it off. We didn't.

00:31:36.000 CENCOM is all powerful. Admiral Cooper is the CENCOM commander. Let's have a quick, uh, update by

00:31:42.080 Admiral Cooper. We have a short package here and I'll bring in Brandon.

00:31:45.280 We've been 100 hours into this operation and we've already struck nearly 2000 targets

00:31:50.160 with more than 2000 munitions. We have severely degraded Iran's air defenses and destroyed

00:31:56.800 hundreds of Iran's ballistic missiles, launchers, and drones. And in simple terms,

00:32:01.280 we're focused on shooting all the things that can shoot at us. They're also sinking the Iranian 1.00

00:32:07.280 Navy, the entire Navy. Thus far, we've destroyed 17 Iranian ships, including the most operational

00:32:14.000 Iranian submarine that now has a hole in its side. For decades, the Iranian regime has harassed

00:32:19.600 international shipping. Today, there's not a single Iranian ship underway in the Arabian Gulf,

00:32:25.200 Strait of Hormuz, or Gulf of Oman. And we will not stop. We will continue to conduct dynamic

00:32:30.880 targeting operations. We're hunting Iran's last remaining mobile ballistic missile launchers 0.97

00:32:35.840 to eliminate what I would characterize as their lingering launch capability.

00:32:40.320 Now, in retaliation, the Iranian regime has launched over 500 ballistic missiles

00:32:45.120 and over 2000 drones. To be clear, Iran is indiscriminately targeting civilians as they

00:32:51.280 launch these missiles and drones. You've seen it on TV. The evidence is crystal clear and overwhelming.

00:32:56.800 Having said this, we are seeing Iran's ability to hit us and our partners is declining, 0.99

00:33:02.400 while our combat power, on the other hand, is building. And my overall operational assessment

00:33:07.360 is that we are ahead of our game plan. I think you see the type of people President Trump selects,

00:33:13.520 Admiral Cooper. I would say Admiral Cooper and General Dan Kane are no brag, just fact. They just stick to

00:33:20.800 it. Brandon Weikert, your assessment of where we are and where we're going.

00:33:26.800 Well, as I said yesterday, the next 24 to 48 hours are going to be key for determining exactly

00:33:33.760 how this thing is going to shake up in terms of the air war. I certainly agree that we have degraded

00:33:40.640 significant capabilities within the Islamic Republic. I agree with the claim that we have gone after 1.00

00:33:47.040 those missile launchers. We have degraded those C2, that's command and control functions. This is all very

00:33:53.200 good for Team USA. However, I do think the transition munition, the transition in munitions

00:34:00.080 is an interesting story that might not be, not might being told very well. Essentially, we were relying on

00:34:07.360 standoff weapons. Now, the argument is, is because we're now switching because the Iranians have been 1.00

00:34:13.600 so thoroughly degraded. We're able to now enjoy local dominance. My concern is the real reason we

00:34:19.360 are switching is because we blew through 400 Tomahawk land attack missiles in about four days. And I would

00:34:26.320 remind your audience, we've only got about 4,000 according to open source information of those systems

00:34:32.000 totally. And it takes 18 to 24 months to procure about 100 every 18 to 24 months. And right now,

00:34:38.720 we've been building at most 90, which is considered low end. So if you're sitting in the Pentagon,

00:34:44.320 you're probably having conniptions because we're blowing through those tomahawks too fast. So in a way, 1.00

00:34:49.360 you don't have a choice but to switch over. Hang on for one second there. Last night,

00:34:54.160 when we were doing the Texas election night, Reuters broke a story. I think you got it to me and a couple

00:35:01.280 of other people. I want to talk about, people understand that this is a potential issue or an

00:35:06.160 issue. There's going to be five of the senior defense industry leaders, CEOs come to the White

00:35:13.680 House on Friday to have a senior level meeting. I assume the president of the United States is going

00:35:18.720 to be in there because he's very focused on this. Well, and it's key, the timing. That timing's key

00:35:23.760 because this weekend, as I told you, the original assessment was after eight days of full conflict,

00:35:28.080 we would have to begin cannibalizing Indopaycom. And I think the president is savvy enough

00:35:32.800 to know, I don't really want to do that unless I have to. So this is a smart move to have these

00:35:37.200 guys come in and read them the riot act. When you say read them right at what, what can they do?

00:35:43.120 Can they go to full? Do we have the capacity? Is it just, is it funding? Is it that they have,

00:35:49.360 they're not at full capacity as far as going 24 seven? Uh, it's a little bit. What's the solution?

00:35:56.640 It's a little bit of all of that, but in my opinion, the defense industrial base,

00:36:00.400 our defense contractors are some of the most corrupt people in the world. So they,

00:36:03.840 you know, they've been taking gobs of money at nearly trillion dollar defense budget. And yet,

00:36:08.240 somehow we're worried that after eight days of conflict, we're going to be out of weapons and

00:36:12.080 CENTCOM. How is that possible? Unless there's a lot of mismanagement. I know Hegseth is trying to

00:36:16.960 address that. He's got a great acquisitions guy in the Pentagon, but it's not moving fast enough.

00:36:21.680 That's just the nature of the bureaucracy. So my hope is that Trump can sit them down and say,

00:36:25.680 look, this has got to get done. Like he did with the COVID, uh, personal protective equipment, uh,

00:36:32.160 production, when he kind of took control over that, maybe that will be enough to keep us going

00:36:36.960 because otherwise the Pentagon is going to hear from the defense contractors that we can't do

00:36:42.000 anything more than we're doing, which means that that's going to start dictating the outcome of

00:36:46.320 this war, which is why I've been saying it's a race to depletion.

00:36:49.680 Did these, did these, um, was the Iran war and excuse me, Ukraine and, uh, in, in Gaza and other

00:36:57.360 places we've had to use these. Is this what led to this, uh, drawdown?

00:37:01.680 One hundred percent, Steve, one hundred percent. In fact, there was the final year of Biden. I thought

00:37:07.120 this was interesting. Bloomberg had a chart of this. There was zero new tomahawks made in 2024,

00:37:13.040 the last year of Biden's presidency, even though he was shipping all of these systems around the

00:37:18.160 world to places like Ukraine, where they were doing God knows what with, uh, they certainly 0.63

00:37:22.720 weren't winning the war. So, uh, this is another reason why the Ukraine war should be ended tomorrow.

00:37:27.120 But anyway, um, this is the real crisis. And I suspect that is also informing this transition

00:37:33.360 in munitions. Last night around midnight, I watched in real time on open source tracking,

00:37:38.400 a logistics chain open up from the Middle East to the United States via Europe. All of our logistics

00:37:45.120 birds were constantly going back and forth because they were starting now to pull the new forms of

00:37:50.320 munitions that are needed. And I think the reason that they're doing this is because they're very

00:37:54.640 worried in the Pentagon about having to pull from the greater resources in Indo-Paycom because the

00:38:00.240 Indo-Paycom guys are already throwing a stink about, Hey, if we do this and pull from us,

00:38:04.960 we're never going to get that back. And China's going to have open season, uh, on the region.

00:38:09.040 And so I think Trump is smartly saying, let's pull from whatever we can do in the United States.

00:38:14.400 He's going to, I hope pressure these defense guys, something that they should be talking about

00:38:18.880 is invoking the defense production act. Uh, because I'm telling you right now, this war is not ending by

00:38:24.400 this weekend. It's going to go beyond and they're going to have to start cannibalizing, uh, those, 1.00

00:38:29.200 those, uh, existing stockpiles in Indo-Paycom AOR, which is the worst possible scenario.

00:38:35.280 That's what Peter, that's what Peter, you use the example in COVID. That's what they used in COVID.

00:38:39.120 They stepped in with the defense production act. Hang on for one second. Just they made a,

00:38:43.680 a, we've, we've launched 2000, uh, weapons on 2000 targets and we got them. They've only come

00:38:50.000 back with 500 and it's getting more scattergun all the time. Do you buy that theory? Do you,

00:38:54.880 do you think this is not as organized on the Iranian side? They're still able to launch,

00:38:59.840 but you're not seeing the kind of systematic launches they were doing particularly in the 12

00:39:03.760 day war. Yeah. Which this gets back to my buddy, Colonel Rob Manus, who, who was talking about

00:39:09.120 this with me the other day, you know, he's insistent that these guys popping off the missiles in Iran

00:39:14.000 are a bunch of dead enders that they've been isolated. But to me, and that's that, you know,

00:39:19.040 it definitely has drawn down in the last 12 to 14 hours. But to me, the, the fact is the regime

00:39:25.760 was savvy enough to, uh, disaggregate the command and control functions locally. That way, when we

00:39:31.920 did come in to take out their central seat to, they would still be in the fight. I want to make

00:39:36.400 it clear. The Iranians are not out of the fight yet. They've killed a thousand innocent people in 1.00

00:39:41.600 the middle East with these missiles, but more importantly, Steve, they have managed to blockade the

00:39:46.240 Strait of Hormuz. And more importantly than that, they are targeting and effectively destroying 0.51

00:39:51.040 Saudi and Qatari oil production. It will take years and months to get those systems back online.

00:39:57.680 So this is part of a wider, longer term strategy on the part of Iran to hurt the American economy 0.98

00:40:03.600 and the global economy beyond even the next few weeks. So that indicates to me that the Iranian 1.00

00:40:09.040 leadership may be degraded, but the Iranian regime is still in this fight. And I don't know if they're

00:40:14.560 going to be able to be thrown out with air power alone, which gets me to my fear, which is that

00:40:19.200 we're going to be putting a large number of special forces groups to try to coordinate with the MEK

00:40:25.280 on the ground. And I think that would be a grave mistake at this point.

00:40:28.400 Let's, let's play, hang on. I got your few minutes. Do we have,

00:40:32.080 Pete Hex had answered that question or attempted to answer that question this morning. Can we play the,

00:40:35.920 uh, can we play the Kurds? Uh, can we play the Kurds club?

00:40:39.200 The administration is considering arming Iranian Kurdish groups. So could you please clarify that

00:40:46.880 whether any such plan has been authorized or, and, uh, whether Congress or regional partners has been

00:40:54.960 notified and, uh, consulted? All I would say is, uh, none of our objectives are premised on the support

00:41:03.040 or the arming of, of any, any particular force. So what other entities may be doing,

00:41:08.320 we're aware of, uh, but our objectives aren't centered on that.

00:41:13.280 Does other entities mean the central intelligence agency in the Israelis? I mean,

00:41:18.640 I love Pete. I'm not so sure that got us to an answer. The Kurds are a wild card here, right? 1.00

00:41:23.920 Because I think a Turkey, they just shut down a missile. The Turk shut down a missile. People 1.00

00:41:28.400 are talking about their NATO, maybe invoke article five. The Turks can't be sitting there being wild 0.77

00:41:34.080 about. First of all, the last time I looked and folks remember, I didn't say I agreed with this,

00:41:38.240 but the reality in Gaza is the Turks are supposed to be head of the security force. I know people

00:41:42.960 don't like hearing that, but that's just reality. At least what president Trump says,

00:41:46.720 you got the Kurds, the, the, the Kurds are a wild card. Cause they want peace. They want a piece

00:41:51.600 of Iran that they say is their territory and they want to turn pivot and take on the Turks, sir.

00:41:57.440 Well, not only that, but they're also still smarting over what they say is our betrayal of

00:42:02.320 the Syrian Kurds. We allowed three or four weeks ago, Jelani or Shara of Syria to go in and annihilate 1.00

00:42:08.720 the, uh, the Kurds of Syria that we were backing. And, and he released all those ISIS fighters.

00:42:13.920 And it is my opinion. And William Van Wagenen, who's a colleague of mine in Syria, uh, he tells me

00:42:19.360 that the, the Jelani is reconstituting the ISIS fighters to, to go into Iraq and attack the

00:42:25.840 Iranian back militias there on our behalf. So you've got that story as well. That's not being

00:42:30.400 told, but with the Kurds in particular, they only want a small sliver of Iran. So if they do open up 0.87

00:42:36.720 another offensive, they're not going to go in to change the regime the way we want them to.

00:42:41.120 They don't have the manpower for that. They're just going to target that little slice. And that's

00:42:44.880 going to trigger the mother of all reactions from our NATO partner, Turkey, uh, cause they do not

00:42:49.920 want to see that at all because they know that's the beginnings of state building, uh, for a Kurdish

00:42:54.480 independent country. And they do not want that. They will go to war over that. And so this is,

00:42:59.680 uh, a potential flashpoint that I think is unnecessary. Again, we don't have the ground

00:43:05.360 forces. I know Eric Prince said this to you recently. We don't have the relevant ground

00:43:09.760 forces needed to overthrow the regime. President Trump has killed Kamani. He has gotten the bad guy.

00:43:16.080 He has gotten the people that not even Reagan could get. So in my opinion, that's a golden off ramp

00:43:22.000 for him. He can declare victory right now and say, okay, we've done it. We've won. We're going to

00:43:27.040 pull back. Now we're going to rebuild. We're going to reconstitute, and we're going to focus on

00:43:31.040 Western hemispheric defense and space dominance. Uh, uh, Brandon, we got to bounce where they get

00:43:36.720 your book and where they get your writing anywhere on Amazon. You can find me and I'm the Nat set guy at

00:43:42.160 emerald.tv. And I'm also the senior editor at 1945.com. At we, the Brandon is my Twitter.

00:43:49.920 Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you for coming on short commercial break,

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00:45:14.560 So Captain Fennell, if you do listen to Admiral Cooper, if you listen to, um, General Cain,

00:45:21.680 you think about what they're talking about potentially for the next 24, 48, 72 hours.

00:45:27.120 Brandon Weicker does make a compelling case, not that you would choose it, but you'd have the

00:45:32.800 opportunity given the degradation of the Iranian command structure, military, Navy to the bottom of the 0.74

00:45:41.360 Persian Gulf. Uh, the air defense is gone, their air force gone, that the president would have a

00:45:48.240 possibility of an off ramp. Uh, do you agree with just with the military and let's leave the politics aside,

00:45:53.200 but do you think that gets enough down the path that, uh, some, I won't say hawkish, but people

00:46:00.160 that are saying, no, you have to destroy it root and branch, uh, would be satisfied, sir?

00:46:06.320 I'm a root and branch person. I do not think that we have destroyed enough.

00:46:10.640 Hold it. Captain Fennell, you did not need to tell us that.

00:46:14.800 You have a role to play here. We know that. So is the root and branch crowd not, wouldn't be happy?

00:46:19.280 We'll also have a little bit of a study of history. I can go back to Sherman and his march to the sea.

00:46:26.320 I can go back to the desert storm and trainer and book, the general's war when we didn't finish

00:46:32.560 because of the line of death or the highway of death. History is replete of when military

00:46:37.680 endeavors have been undertaken and we, different, different generals, different leaders have backed

00:46:43.840 off and allowed their enemy to get off the map. There's no going back from this. The Iranians 1.00

00:46:49.440 were already at war with us beforehand. They have declared war against us for 47 years and they are

00:46:55.280 now certainly, uh, this regime will never ever accept anything left except to destroy us. So why would we

00:47:03.120 stop now when they still have combat capability? The, the SEC war, the chairman and the operational

00:47:10.880 commander, Admiral Cooper have all said, we're still working at and chipping away and getting

00:47:16.560 after the rest of their military capabilities. So let's do that. The increasing risks to our forces

00:47:22.960 diminishes as their ballistic missile launches go down, as their drone attacks go down and our attacks.

00:47:29.280 Hang on. Let me make sure the audience, let me make sure the audience understands that maybe

00:47:33.120 it got to understand it first. Kushner and, and Witkoff and the president's been adamant saying,

00:47:37.760 hey, look, they're really tapping us along. They weren't serious. Given what we've done to the

00:47:42.480 command structure, what we've done to the leadership, what we try to eradicate the Islamic 1.00

00:47:46.720 Republic part of this, when you say there's no going back, uh, you say you can't have a half measure

00:47:52.400 here. And I think Pete used that term that these now, if they weren't your mortal enemies before

00:47:57.680 that you're never going to, you're not going to go to a negotiating table and cut a deal because

00:48:02.080 the hardcore that are still there are going to realize that their power comes from,

00:48:06.240 not from capitulation, but to fight down to the last man, essentially.

00:48:11.680 We have to defang them. We have to declaw them. They can think whatever they want. I don't really

00:48:16.960 care what they think. If they, if they hate us, but they don't have any weapons, then go ahead and

00:48:22.000 hate on us. We're not going to give you any more weapons, whether they're nuclear weapons or

00:48:26.000 conventional weapons. That's the mission. It's not regime change. I that's not the mission.

00:48:31.360 The mission is to declaw them, to take away their ability to hurt us. If you take off all the,

00:48:37.040 the, the, the teeth and the claws from a tiger, you can walk into a tiger's cage and be safe. So

00:48:43.520 that's what we have to do. We have to remove their claws and their, their fangs. That's the mission.

00:48:48.720 Uh, captain, hang on for a second. I want to, you've always taught me I'm well-trained by you to

00:48:54.400 always keep the main thing, the main thing. I want to bring in Steven Mosher, one of our top

00:48:58.560 experts on the Chinese Communist Party. Steven, I was so glad in the, in the fog of war here,

00:49:03.120 you had an incredible piece up in the New York post that said, Hey, uh, when, when Trump's doing

00:49:08.320 this, his, his, his real target is Beijing. Can you explain, uh, we got about three minutes here.

00:49:14.240 I'm gonna keep you through the break. Can you explain what you meant, sir?

00:49:16.800 Well, I mean, Steve, that it's, it's shock and awe in Beijing and it has been since Trump took office.

00:49:22.880 Uh, the, uh, the tariffs took a huge bite out of their, uh, their ill gotten, you know, trade profits.

00:49:28.240 And then it was, uh, uh, Panama. We're going to kick, uh, Hutchinson and Wampoa out of Panama. 1.00

00:49:33.680 That has now happened. In fact, the Panamanian Supreme Court has said that, that, that the contract

00:49:39.600 was void ab initio, which means from the beginning. So all of their investment in the Panama Canal ports at

00:49:45.040 each end Atlantic and Pacific is gone as if it never existed. Big blow to China. Uh, then we 0.96

00:49:51.200 have Venezuela taking away that particular, uh, footprint in, in, uh, South America. Uh, now we

00:49:57.680 have the advances in Cuba. Can anyone doubt that, uh, Cuba is going to, uh, negotiate a deal rather

00:50:03.360 than live in the dark for the next century? Uh, we have Iran, the oil from Iran, not going to, uh,

00:50:09.440 China now. The first thing I looked at, Steve, when we attacked Iran to see what happened 0.95

00:50:14.000 to Karg Island, Karg Island, Iran's main oil export terminal was in flames. And that means China's oil

00:50:21.760 lifeline from the Ayatollah, uh, was going up in smoke. Uh, that's very important because it means 0.99

00:50:27.920 a lot of things. It means, first of all, the Iranians can't get money from China, which was half of their,

00:50:33.040 their budget. It means, uh, secondly, that, uh, BRICS is probably dead, uh, because, uh, they were paying Iran

00:50:40.800 in, um, in, uh, renminbi, cheap Chinese currency. They could print it at will. Uh, now that, that,

00:50:47.680 uh, is gone, they'll have to pay in dollars again. They'll need tens of billions of dollars

00:50:51.760 to pay for oil. Uh, Trump is smiling, said, we'll be happy to sell them oil. Well, yeah,

00:50:57.120 and they'll be paying in dollars. So BRICS is dead. The dollar will remain the dominant, uh, currency.

00:51:02.800 So every, all roads, in my view, lead to Beijing. I mean, uh, people should see the pattern from

00:51:08.960 Panama to Venezuela, from Greenland to Iran, all the pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.

00:51:14.640 Uh, Trump is thinking, uh, very, very bigly here. Uh, you know, the, uh, the premier Wen Jiabao,

00:51:22.400 10 years ago, uh, the premier of China from 2002 to 2012, once said, uh, Americans are naive

00:51:29.600 and innocent and easily deceived. Think about that. The Chinese leadership think that Americans

00:51:34.400 are naive and innocent and easily deceived. Well, I think they've met their match in, in Donald

00:51:39.120 Trump. And one of the things he's doing is he's using one of China's ancient stratagems against

00:51:44.160 them. It's called taking the firewood out from under the pot. Well, what does that mean? Well,

00:51:48.880 that meant in traditional Chinese warfare, you took some vital resource away from your enemy

00:51:54.080 in order to prevent them from being able to mobilize an army and fight you.

00:51:58.560 Well, we're literally taking the firewood from, from, from away from the teapot refineries in China

00:52:05.200 that we're using it to fuel China's industry and fuel its war machine. We're literally taking, 0.57

00:52:10.240 Trump is taking the firewood out from under the pot and, uh, and that's really hurting, uh, China.

00:52:16.320 And now we've got, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. We're gonna get to all that.

00:52:20.640 We're gonna take a short commercial break. Stephen Mosher's with us, Captain Fennell.

00:52:24.640 We're also gonna get into what happened in Texas last night in this, how do you say it? Historic

00:52:31.120 victory for the, uh, Prop 10, the proposal quite simply to prohibit Sharia law, the great state of 0.97

00:52:38.640 Texas. We're gonna talk all about that. We've got tons of people associated with Texas and politics and

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Bannon's War Room - March 04, 2026

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