Bannon's War Room - March 04, 2026


Episode 5189： SCOTUS Victory Upholding Deportations; Free Tina Peters


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Abby and Abby discuss the latest in the Iran crisis and the impact it could have on the upcoming primary race in Texas. They also discuss the impact of President Trump s decision to attack Iran's nuclear facilities and the implications for the future of the Middle East.

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00:00:00.000 Trump promised to be the opposite of that.
00:00:03.540 He promised to get the warmongers out. 1.00
00:00:05.720 No more stupid wars. 1.00
00:00:07.180 No more forever conflicts. 1.00
00:00:09.500 No more being the policeman of the world.
00:00:12.880 Except this time.
00:00:14.320 Because this time it is him doing it.
00:00:16.360 The only one brave and strong enough to do what other presidents thought was too risky.
00:00:21.040 It's not Iraq or Afghanistan. 0.62
00:00:22.740 It's more like Venezuela, he said.
00:00:24.900 Decisive, strategic, brief, and necessary.
00:00:27.460 Because roughly eight months after their nuclear program was obliterated,
00:00:31.440 it needed to be obliterated again.
00:00:33.880 Because they could have nukes in a week.
00:00:35.840 Or they could have nukes in a month.
00:00:37.640 Because they can't have short-range missiles.
00:00:39.960 Because Iran was going to strike first and we needed to join in to protect ourselves. 0.99
00:00:44.500 Because the Iranian people needed liberation.
00:00:47.760 Because the regime is evil. 0.96
00:00:49.560 Because it's a rogue terrorist regime that has been chanting death to America for 47 years. 0.86
00:00:55.820 Because they were presented with a unique opportunity to strike.
00:00:59.860 And because Iranians weren't fast enough in their negotiations. 1.00
00:01:04.040 They said all of those things.
00:01:05.720 All of those have been explanations for this war.
00:01:08.240 And it's dizzying.
00:01:09.500 It's also confusing.
00:01:10.880 Which is probably why we've seen official after official come out to sell it.
00:01:16.460 Yelling at, lecturing Americans who might be questioning it.
00:01:20.780 You see it as well as I do.
00:01:22.720 You see the tremendous progress that's being made.
00:01:25.320 Their missiles are being wiped out rapidly.
00:01:28.080 Their launchers are being wiped out.
00:01:30.440 They're attacking their neighbors.
00:01:32.060 They're attacking their, in some cases, allies.
00:01:35.120 Or not so long ago, allies.
00:01:37.620 And, you know, it's really a nation that was out of control.
00:01:40.880 And they would have used it on us if we let them.
00:01:43.420 If we waited any longer.
00:01:44.560 So, a big factor was Soleimani, the killing of Soleimani in my first term.
00:01:51.000 And maybe the biggest factor was the rebuilding of the military in my first term.
00:01:56.360 And then the B-2s hit the, and I use the word obliterate. 1.00
00:02:01.900 Because it really was, it was a complete obliteration of their nuclear potential.
00:02:07.060 And that set them back very, very seriously.
00:02:11.860 If we didn't hit within two weeks, they would have had a nuclear weapon. 0.78
00:02:14.820 If we didn't do the B-2 attack a number of months ago, they would have a nuclear weapon. 0.97
00:02:19.820 And when crazy people have nuclear weapons, bad things happen.
00:02:24.000 But this country is not entirely MAGA.
00:02:27.660 It's not even half MAGA.
00:02:29.480 Donald Trump was elected by independents, swing voters, and new voters who thought they'd try him out.
00:02:35.020 And when you ask the whole country what they think, those poll numbers look a lot different.
00:02:41.560 And if you look at moderates, specifically, 56% disapprove of those strikes.
00:02:48.120 But again, this is just day five.
00:02:50.580 Everything can change.
00:02:51.900 All of those poll numbers, all of that opinion, Republican, Democrat, moderate, independent, whoever.
00:02:56.840 All of that can change if this thing drags on.
00:02:59.840 So we reported earlier this morning that President Trump's advisers expect him to endorse Cornyn in this runoff election.
00:03:07.420 And then shortly after we reported this, the president on Truth Social did not quite say that.
00:03:12.940 But he said his endorsement was coming.
00:03:15.080 It was going to be a big endorsement.
00:03:16.740 And once he endorsed, he expected everyone else to drop out.
00:03:20.760 That would be a big deal, Abby.
00:03:22.880 Explain why.
00:03:23.700 Well, John Cornyn is in a lot of trouble.
00:03:28.820 And any time an incumbent in Texas goes to a primary, they're usually in a – it is more likely than not that they're going to lose.
00:03:36.460 Because this means half of the electorate has voted against them.
00:03:39.440 And the most right-wing voters show up to a primary.
00:03:42.640 John Cornyn absolutely needs this endorsement for his survival.
00:03:46.200 But he also needs other things to go his way as well.
00:03:49.880 Like what?
00:03:50.620 New revelations about Ken Paxton, an assortment, an incredible amount of spending.
00:04:00.020 This thing could cost another $50 million at least.
00:04:03.760 It is going to take all hands on deck to get John Cornyn through this primary if Ken Paxton decides not to drop out.
00:04:10.260 Years have been killing our people and killing people from all over the world.
00:04:13.520 And I think we have great support.
00:04:15.560 And I think if we didn't do it first, they would have done it to Israel. 1.00
00:04:19.780 And give us a shot if that was possible.
00:04:23.540 The Wall Street Journal is reporting this.
00:04:25.340 The son of Ayatollah Khomeini is the top contender for supreme leader.
00:04:29.280 Quote, the son of Iran's slain theocratic leader is the top contender to replace his father to steer the embattled Islamic Republic in its worst conflict in decades.
00:04:38.100 That's according to people familiar with the matter.
00:04:40.500 He would likely opt for an even more hardline direction as supreme leader, Iranian officials and analysts say.
00:04:46.020 This feels like the worst possible outcome, what has already been the loss of American treasure in the form of six lives, that we take someone out who's replaced by someone that the Wall Street Journal says is, quote, even more hardline as supreme leader.
00:05:02.400 Absolutely.
00:05:03.280 He is.
00:05:03.920 And I think he represents a real element within Iranian society, not just the government and the regime, but Iranian society.
00:05:11.280 You know, we tend to look at things through the American prison and point out all the very odious and heinous acts that Iran has committed over the course of the last number of decades, particularly since the revolution. 1.00
00:05:21.820 The Iranians look at us and they say, OK, the CIA and the Brits overthrew the democratically elected prime minister, Mossadegh, in 1953.
00:05:29.120 We armed, equipped and trained the Sabah, which was the Shah's secret police that tortured and oppressed Iranians across the board. 1.00
00:05:36.460 You know, we have engaged in different types of bombing activities.
00:05:38.900 We invaded Iraq. 0.90
00:05:40.320 We killed Qasem Soleimani.
00:05:41.680 You know, we assassinated some of them.
00:05:43.380 So they keep saying, you know, it's eye for an eye and we can go back into history.
00:05:48.480 The big question is, how do we move forward and get out of this cycle of violence and retribution?
00:05:53.920 But the Iranians are looking at us and saying, boy, they're raining hell down on them. 1.00
00:05:57.860 Should they just roll over and just give up?
00:06:00.320 No. 0.95
00:06:00.920 And I also heard, you know, the reports that the Israelis say that they're going to kill the next supreme leader.
00:06:06.260 Obviously, it's a war on their religion in many respects as well, given the combination of religious and political leadership in Iran.
00:06:15.020 So, again, this is so messy.
00:06:17.060 And, again, I'm just aghast that a U.S. administration engaged in something like this without thinking through the implications, the repercussions, and where we go from here.
00:06:27.820 It is just appalling.
00:06:29.520 Caroline, could you tell us about the president's current thinking about ground troops and whether they could be used if they were to be sent into Iran?
00:06:41.480 What would they be used for?
00:06:43.340 What's the situation?
00:06:44.240 Well, they're not part of the plan for this operation at this time.
00:06:47.580 But I certainly will never take away military options on behalf of the president of the United States or the commander-in-chief.
00:06:53.360 And he wisely does not do the same for himself.
00:06:56.180 I know there's many leaders in the past who like to take options off of the table without having a full understanding of how things could develop.
00:07:02.760 So, again, it's not part of the current plan, but I'm not going to remove an option for the president that is on the table.
00:07:09.140 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:16.520 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:21.760 I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:26.020 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:27.920 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:29.100 I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:32.040 It's going to happen.
00:07:33.320 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:07:36.720 Mega Media.
00:07:38.060 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:43.460 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:47.260 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:53.440 War Room.
00:07:54.460 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
00:07:59.100 It's Wednesday, 4 March, in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:08:05.460 Of course, it's the day after Election Day here in the great state of Texas.
00:08:10.820 We're going to get into that, this issue about the endorsement of either John Corwin or Ken Paxton.
00:08:17.180 We're going to discuss the Tina Peters situation, maybe developments there.
00:08:20.700 I want to start with Mike Davis.
00:08:21.860 First, Mike, you hear, because of the Supreme Court 9-0 decision, I want you to explain it to me.
00:08:27.480 But I do have a question.
00:08:29.500 The Southern District down in Florida, I think, has impenetable grand jury. 0.97
00:08:34.520 A terrific young U.S. attorney down there.
00:08:38.080 I continue to see John Brennan, the former CIA director, on TV nonstop bashing President Trump.
00:08:46.020 Do you have any idea the timing of when that might be?
00:08:48.480 We may not have to listen to that anymore because he's one of the true haters of the president.
00:08:56.360 Jason Redding Quinones is the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida.
00:09:02.160 He's a good friend of mine.
00:09:03.240 I recommended him to President Trump for the job.
00:09:07.060 He is a bold and fearless warrior for the Constitution.
00:09:10.480 He's a former federal prosecutor.
00:09:12.220 He's in the military now as a colonel.
00:09:16.280 He was a state judge.
00:09:19.560 His family escaped political persecution from Cuba.
00:09:23.640 So I think this hits him very personally when governments are politicized and weaponized against political enemies like we see in communist Cuba.
00:09:34.080 I would say to Brennan, if you did nothing wrong, why are you so nervous and lawyer up?
00:09:41.260 He's taking over.
00:09:43.640 I take it the focus of that is some part of the weaponization of the deep state against the entire Trump administration.
00:09:53.240 Is that generally what they're looking at?
00:09:56.980 Well, I don't know, Steve.
00:09:58.140 I read the same news reports you do.
00:10:01.120 I've seen the news reports where this grand jury has sent out a lot of subpoenas to a lot of these Democrats, bad actors who engaged in this unprecedented Republican-ing lawfare against Trump, his aides like you and Peter DeBaro, his allies, January 6th supporters, Pirates Christians. 0.92
00:10:20.140 I've come on your show countless times since the Mar-a-Lago raid talking about this weaponization, this lawfare.
00:10:27.680 I have very publicly called for accountability for this.
00:10:32.300 I would say retribution is a crucial component of justice.
00:10:36.740 I very publicly push Jason Redding Quinones, my good friend, is the Miami U.S. attorney. 0.99
00:10:43.220 And I have very publicly said I hope that Jason puts all these asses in jail. 0.95
00:10:47.840 So, you know, of course, I don't know what the grand jury is doing because that would be illegal. 0.98
00:10:55.800 But I am very happy with the news reports that I'm hearing.
00:11:01.360 Mike, talk to me about the Supreme Court.
00:11:04.140 You know, the Supreme Court has essentially had President Trump's back.
00:11:07.660 I actually think the tariff ruling was not as bad as people originally thought.
00:11:12.640 I actually thought it was quite creative about how Scott Bessent and Jameson Greer, Ambassador Greer, and Peter Navarro can work with President Trump.
00:11:21.940 And Scott Bessent announced today on Squawk Box that the 15 percent, I think it's the 122, is the 15 percent global tariff is going to kick in later this week.
00:11:32.560 But the Supreme Court had it.
00:11:33.860 Was it a 9-0 decision?
00:11:35.880 We haven't had a lot of those.
00:11:37.060 It was surprising.
00:11:38.080 Can you walk us through it?
00:11:38.920 Yeah, it's a 9-0 decision, and it was by Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson.
00:11:45.800 So this is like a unicorn decision, and it's an important one.
00:11:50.180 It's a Supreme Court decision that talks about how our immigration system handles claims of persecution, claims of torture by these illegal aliens who are coming to America. 0.99
00:12:03.100 There was a Salvadorian citizen who fled to the United States with his wife and his minor child back in 2020, if I'm not mistaken.
00:12:15.120 He had, in his hometown back in El Salvador, he had got beaten up a few times.
00:12:21.980 His brother got shot.
00:12:24.080 But when this family moved to different parts of El Salvador, it was fine.
00:12:30.920 It was mostly peaceful, as we say, with BLM.
00:12:34.100 But he didn't face violence if he moved to other parts of El Salvador.
00:12:39.080 It was only when he moved back to his hometown that he faced this hometown rivalry or whatever it was against his family.
00:12:47.320 And so then, of course, like all these illegal immigrants do, they come to the United States illegally. 1.00
00:12:52.540 So he came here.
00:12:54.060 He gets caught.
00:12:55.020 He claims asylum.
00:12:55.960 He claims that if he gets sent back home that he's going to be tortured.
00:13:00.240 And you have federal immigration judges.
00:13:03.740 Immigration judges work for the Justice Department.
00:13:06.100 They're appointed by the attorney general.
00:13:07.520 They are executive branch officials.
00:13:10.060 And that is intentionally set up by Congress because immigration, the laws are written by Congress, but the enforcement is an executive branch function.
00:13:20.080 And so this immigration judge said that this guy, his wife, and his kid didn't meet the standard for torture.
00:13:28.280 Adios, Pablo, you're going back home, or whatever the hell his name is.
00:13:32.040 And that decision was upheld on appeal through the Justice Department, through the Board of Immigration Appeals.
00:13:40.420 And then from there, it goes to a federal court of appeals.
00:13:44.540 It goes, in this case, the First Circuit.
00:13:46.480 And the First Circuit, which is dominated by liberals, correctly held that this guy didn't meet the standard.
00:13:54.820 And there is strong deference.
00:13:57.000 There is substantial deference, very strong deference to the executive branch when they make these determinations related to immigration, related to torture, and asylum cases.
00:14:08.720 And so the Supreme Court, nine to nothing, upheld that.
00:14:11.320 And this is important in this respect, Steve.
00:14:14.100 It reaffirms that these decisions are not for these activist Democrats judges to make.
00:14:21.980 You can't run to a federal district court judge in Boston or New York or L.A. or one of these other liberal hellholes and have one of these district court judges up in the process to free their illegals, right? 0.87
00:14:35.360 It has to be through the process.
00:14:36.660 And this was a nine to nothing decision.
00:14:38.440 This is huge.
00:14:39.520 Can you hang on for one second?
00:14:40.620 Because I want to say, I want to go through how they've been trying to jam up the deportation system by using this.
00:14:46.880 It's a very important 9-0 decision by the Supreme Court.
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00:16:22.780 So, Mike, here's what I don't get, but this was the way that they were using, particularly the first line, as you know,
00:16:31.720 the most radicals are the front line of the federal judiciary.
00:16:35.620 Correct me if I'm wrong, but back a year ago, when President Trump, when we first started everything,
00:16:40.840 not simply the border, but also ICE and immigration enforcement, this was a way that they were chop-blocking us.
00:16:48.060 And you're telling me the entire time the Supreme Court, it finally took time to get there,
00:16:53.040 but the Supreme Court is united that this method can't be used in the future?
00:16:57.700 Can we get him back up?
00:17:07.820 Sorry, Steve.
00:17:09.460 The Supreme Court, I'm up in the mountains.
00:17:11.420 So, back up.
00:17:12.160 Go ahead.
00:17:12.560 So, the Supreme Court did not directly address the structure of the immigration system that broadly,
00:17:18.680 but this was a nine-to-nothing decision.
00:17:21.900 Like, that rarely happens.
00:17:24.100 Justice Jackson, the most liberal of all of them, the most political and liberal of all of them,
00:17:30.240 wrote this opinion for the majority, and there was no controversy around the fact
00:17:34.660 that Congress writes our immigration laws, the executive branch enforces and adjudicates
00:17:41.800 our immigration laws, both through ICE, arresting these illegals, and then U.S. immigration judges 0.82
00:17:49.780 who are executive branch, Justice Department officials appointed by the Attorney General
00:17:56.300 who decide these matters.
00:17:58.340 This is immigration.
00:17:59.360 This is separate from other matters we have before the federal courts.
00:18:04.620 There are different due process concerns for illegal immigrants than for American citizens.
00:18:09.980 American citizens have more due process.
00:18:12.680 They have Article III due process.
00:18:14.760 These illegal immigrants do not, right? 1.00
00:18:17.700 They go through the U.S. immigration courts, and then it goes through the Bureau of Immigration
00:18:25.700 Appeals or whatever it's called.
00:18:27.140 That's an executive branch court, and then it only goes to the federal court of appeal after
00:18:33.400 that, the relevant geographic federal court of appeal after it's exhausted through the Justice
00:18:37.940 Department system, and the courts of appeals give substantial deference to the findings
00:18:45.280 of these immigration courts.
00:18:46.940 So the idea that you're just going to come in here and illegally come into our country and 1.00
00:18:52.800 get caught and then say, oh, I need asylum.
00:18:55.060 I'm being persecuted back home because my drug dealer down the street is beating me up.
00:18:59.220 That's not going to fly, right?
00:19:00.900 And so it's very important for the nine to nothing decision out of the Supreme Court.
00:19:05.380 Mike, thank you.
00:19:07.980 One more thing real quickly.
00:19:09.820 Up on Capitol Hill, they're running around about President Trump's Article II powers, either
00:19:14.180 the War Powers Act or they want to bring guys up for testimony.
00:19:19.220 Your thoughts right now, legally, with the authorization that President Trump has, does he have everything
00:19:25.380 he needs?
00:19:26.220 Will the Senate somehow try to step in here or the House try to step in here in the War Powers
00:19:31.220 Act or try to thwart his use as commander-in-chief in his Article II powers, sir?
00:19:38.460 We talked about this right after the strikes.
00:19:41.680 We went into this in detail.
00:19:42.820 But no, the president has the full power as the commander-in-chief under Article II of the
00:19:48.320 Constitution to fight back against the war that Iran has declared against the United States.
00:19:54.340 You don't need to wait for a congressional declaration of war when you're already at war.
00:20:00.860 If a foreign country has already declared war against the United States, we don't need a 0.99
00:20:05.020 declaration of war from Congress.
00:20:06.940 The president, as the commander-in-chief under Article II, has to defend our country, has to
00:20:11.940 repel attacks.
00:20:13.540 And President Trump also has power under congressional authorizations going back, for example, to
00:20:22.140 2002 when Congress authorized the president to fight back against international terrorism.
00:20:29.800 It related to Iraq, but it also related to the terrorist proxies in Iran, right?
00:20:35.380 We've been, Iran declared a war against the United States 47 years ago.
00:20:39.820 They've killed thousands of Americans since then.
00:20:43.900 And the president does not need any authorization from Congress to fight back and crush Iran. 0.96
00:20:50.320 And he does not.
00:20:51.920 Look, we have not had a declaration of war since World War II.
00:20:56.260 With the War Powers Act, every president, since that was enacted in 1973, every president
00:21:02.200 for the last 53 years, 54 years, whatever it's been, has said that that War Powers Act is
00:21:08.300 unconstitutional and no president, Democrat or Republican, has ever complied with that,
00:21:14.020 with the War Powers Act.
00:21:16.020 President Trump is on the most solid legal grounds, and there's no question that he is
00:21:21.340 challenged in court.
00:21:22.220 He's going to win.
00:21:23.560 Mike Davis, where do people go to Article III, and where do they go to your always spicy
00:21:27.740 Twitter feed?
00:21:28.940 Article3project.org.
00:21:32.660 Article3project.org.
00:21:35.000 Follow us on social media.
00:21:37.000 Donate, but only what you can afford.
00:21:38.860 And again, as we always say, the War Room Posse's superpower is action, action, action.
00:21:44.420 So go to the action page.
00:21:45.780 And thank you.
00:21:46.380 The biggest action item right now is the SAVE Act.
00:21:49.540 Light up both of your home state senators and your U.S. House rep.
00:21:53.500 Tell them to pass the SAVE Act.
00:21:55.920 We need to make, we need to stop illegal aliens from voting and stealing elections in this 1.00
00:22:00.480 country.
00:22:01.460 Thank you, sir.
00:22:02.400 Appreciate you.
00:22:05.080 I tell you what, let's have a discussion.
00:22:06.640 We'll have a discussion of the SAVE America Act tomorrow and what's really happening and
00:22:10.100 why it's jammed up in the Senate.
00:22:13.020 It makes the endorsement of Cornyn even more, if that's a possibility, even more mind-boggling,
00:22:18.200 but greater minds than I.
00:22:20.400 I want to say something about the War Room Posse's agency.
00:22:23.600 You saw that last night in the stunning victory on Article 10, the proposition, excuse me,
00:22:29.860 Proposition 10 in the Texas primary.
00:22:32.900 Just amazing.
00:22:33.680 Final numbers are in, I think, basically 95 to 5 and also almost 2 million votes.
00:22:40.640 I think 1,981,000.
00:22:43.320 Just extraordinary.
00:22:44.400 With no money.
00:22:45.400 It was all grassroots.
00:22:46.520 And the voters.
00:22:47.780 Voters of Texas and the grassroots have spoken.
00:22:50.640 This was a grassroots effort.
00:22:51.820 So many grassroots organizations with no money.
00:22:55.060 Just elbow grease.
00:22:57.780 And then the voters of Texas.
00:22:58.980 So this is going to be important.
00:22:59.920 We've got a big, huge action plan at the back of this.
00:23:02.300 We're going to roll out over the next couple of days.
00:23:04.820 And we'll have a discussion about SAVE America and going to both Article 3 and also going to
00:23:11.240 Bill Blaster with grace and making sure we can talk to people.
00:23:14.660 But, you know, I think I think the Senate is pretty dug in that they don't want to do it.
00:23:20.540 OK.
00:23:20.760 Another huge development.
00:23:21.980 We did not get a chance to address it in depth this morning.
00:23:25.360 I want to take a crack at a day.
00:23:26.940 Apollo Pappas joins us.
00:23:28.460 He's the host for Tina Peters show where Tina Peters is incarcerated in a maximum security prison,
00:23:36.580 women's prison in Colorado.
00:23:38.040 Apollo, so last night, I think it was, Polis put out, I think, a tweet and went through
00:23:44.320 kind of this long detail of why he was thinking of granting clemency or a pardon.
00:23:49.560 I think that Tina Peters used an example of some other person. 0.98
00:23:52.700 The Hill newspaper, the leading political newspaper up on Capitol Hill, kind of the
00:23:56.220 center-left paper that has a huge article about it, particularly focused on the blowback
00:24:01.380 that Polis is going to get from the left.
00:24:04.440 Get us up to speed.
00:24:05.380 What is happening?
00:24:06.200 The president has given her a federal pardon, but so far hasn't been able to effectuate it.
00:24:11.500 I know a lot of people and people in this audience, you guys, we had the Tina Peters 500,
00:24:16.860 I think, what, 15 days ago or 16 days ago.
00:24:20.160 Walk us through what's happening right now.
00:24:22.080 Is this real?
00:24:22.980 And is it your recommendation and the other people on the Tina Peters team that we put additional
00:24:28.320 pressure on Polis or we just stand down and see how this develops, sir?
00:24:32.740 Well, thank you, Steve.
00:24:36.180 And, I mean, Polis is in a bit of a difficult position because, as his own post called out,
00:24:41.920 there is a glaring discrepancy between the justice, if you call it that, that was applied
00:24:46.840 to Tina Peters and his friend, Sonia.
00:24:49.480 But there's a bigger gap there than most people realize in that the news states, because you
00:24:54.500 have multiple sentences where Tina was given three charges for one misrepresentation of the
00:25:00.360 liar Jerry Woods versus Sonia, is very real.
00:25:04.560 He's clearly signaling that, yes, I do see something unavoidably, you know, wrong with
00:25:10.640 this situation.
00:25:11.380 And at least on its face, he seems to be inclined to do something.
00:25:15.120 I think he should do so immediately because right now you have an issue for all of Coloradans.
00:25:21.400 It's not a right or left issue.
00:25:22.600 Tina Peters' treatment is a civil rights issue. 1.00
00:25:26.160 And the biggest glaring discrepancy, in addition to multiple charges being accounted for Tina
00:25:31.900 Peters versus one for Sonia, is that Tina Peters' actions actually stem from her carrying 0.99
00:25:37.560 out her sworn duty as clerk of Mesa County.
00:25:41.420 So she was preserving election records that her image showed the Secretary of State, Jenna 1.00
00:25:45.280 Griswold, who is currently calling for Polis not to grant her clemency in any way, deleted
00:25:51.620 them with her trusted build.
00:25:53.240 So it's very real.
00:25:55.420 I hope that Polis does do so immediately and doesn't wait.
00:25:59.980 The optics that he might face from some of those who have been brainwashed or are afraid
00:26:05.360 of the Tina Peters story because of what she actually did is going to be dwarfed by the
00:26:12.480 message it's going to send if he waits on this.
00:26:15.340 There's no reason for him to.
00:26:17.240 And he does have policy for the governor's office regarding clemency.
00:26:22.900 And I don't believe he should wait for the entire appeals process to carry out.
00:26:28.140 We don't know how long that's going to be.
00:26:29.460 And I hope he just acts on it because she deserves to be out.
00:26:32.260 The Colorado Department of Corrections is not keeping her safe. 0.84
00:26:36.160 She's had now five, six incidents.
00:26:38.300 The last one, of course, resulting in the 29-year-old inmate who assaulted her being let out on parole
00:26:43.760 just weeks later, she's now out.
00:26:46.640 And Tina Peters has been bounced around to the special housing unit. 1.00
00:26:50.860 They refuse to call solitary and say that's the best they can do to protect her.
00:26:55.100 She's not safe.
00:26:56.400 They're not making the situation any better.
00:26:59.560 And they're not solving the problem.
00:27:01.320 So Tina Peters shouldn't be there in the first place. 0.98
00:27:03.400 And this would be a good step for Jared Polis to do the obvious right thing and show Coloradans
00:27:09.300 that there's some semblance of sanity.
00:27:12.460 And his own words, you know, describe exactly that.
00:27:16.700 So I hope he has the courage to just do what he should have done a while ago.
00:27:21.100 Apollo, can you hang through the break?
00:27:22.960 We just need you for a few minutes.
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00:27:42.720 He did make a comment.
00:27:43.780 He says, hey, since their deal that they used to do in Chinese currency for the oil is broken,
00:27:50.980 they're going to have to convert it all.
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00:31:08.520 Don't think the BRICS have, have had it quite yet.
00:31:13.180 And we ought to understand that.
00:31:15.100 Although I think Steve Mosher is a genius.
00:31:16.840 And I think his, his article in the post is incredible.
00:31:20.260 Apollo, I just want to make sure we go through, particularly with Gump being down here in Texas,
00:31:25.160 we're picking up new viewers all the time.
00:31:26.980 Some people are maybe not familiar with all the details of the imprisonment of the gold star
00:31:30.980 mother, patriot and hero, Tina Peters, of which your team has been leading an amazing effort for
00:31:37.180 years to get her out. 0.94
00:31:38.900 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, Tina Peters, for making sure that we had free and fair elections,
00:31:44.640 has, I think, nine years in a state prison.
00:31:48.100 And this state prison, folks, is as tough as they come.
00:31:51.680 As Apollo said, she's already been assaulted a number of times and thrown her in the shoe. 0.89
00:31:55.720 The shoe, the special housing unit is solitary.
00:31:57.680 And that's not to protect you.
00:31:59.920 That's really to break you psychologically.
00:32:02.720 The other woman, is it Sonia Lewis?
00:32:05.860 Because even Polis mentioned this.
00:32:07.380 Just walk me through what's real quickly, what Sonia Lewis did and what is, what it was her
00:32:12.340 punishment versus Tina Peters with nine years in a state prison, I think plus three or four 1.00
00:32:18.100 years of parole and, you know, home confinement and all that, all that stuff they do to prisoners.
00:32:24.080 What did Sonia Lewis get?
00:32:25.600 Well, Sonia Lewis was part of an ethics investigation because she was mistreating her capital staff 1.00
00:32:34.040 and her aides.
00:32:35.420 So she forged several letters to influence this ethics committee and was given one count
00:32:41.320 of attempting to influence a public servant and three counts of forgery for that.
00:32:45.340 She was given, I believe it was two years of probation, 150 hours of community service and
00:32:51.340 a fine.
00:32:51.780 Meanwhile, Tina Peters has the exact same felony, except they tripled it for the same misrepresentation 1.00
00:32:59.700 that Sonia was given one count for to an entire ethics committee. 0.99
00:33:04.540 Tina was given nine and a half years for bringing in an expert within her authority to make a backup 0.99
00:33:09.840 of the Mesa County EMS as she was clerk and recorder.
00:33:13.440 She was given nine and a half years and a mandatory three-year parole at the end of that as well,
00:33:19.980 which is very different than probation.
00:33:21.980 And now she has been locked up for 15, 16 months now in a state prison with violent offenders
00:33:28.820 who have repeated records of felony assault.
00:33:32.420 Some of them are in there for murder.
00:33:33.680 And this gold star mother, first time nonviolent offender was given a decade plus parole while
00:33:40.940 this Democratic senator was given, you know, a slap on the wrist community service and a
00:33:46.140 fine.
00:33:47.100 And Polis admits that if you pull up his his tweet again, can you just read the section
00:33:51.300 where I think he meant what shocked me?
00:33:53.800 And you had some really bad actors on the Democratic side really jump on Polis last night, I think,
00:33:58.740 for putting this up some some folks in the January 6th committee and others really going
00:34:05.580 after him.
00:34:06.180 He put it up and he admitted that for what basically less than what Tina Peters did, this
00:34:13.900 woman got just basically a slap on the wrist, whereas Tina Peters is in a what essentially 1.00
00:34:19.060 because I guess one woman's prison in in Colorado, a maximum security prison, which is a hellhole,
00:34:26.180 as you can see, for almost 10 years as a gold star mother who is over 70 years old.
00:34:31.780 Even Polis realizes there's a huge disparity here.
00:34:36.200 Yeah, in his own tweet, he made a point about this and said, you know, he knows Sonia and
00:34:42.260 prison, in his own words, is a hard place for anyone, no less a 68 year old pharmacist.
00:34:47.080 Tina is, of course, 70 now.
00:34:49.540 But it is not lost on me.
00:34:50.920 He says that she was convicted of the same felony charge as Tina Peters.
00:34:54.100 And yet Tina Peters, as a nonviolent first time offender, got a nine year sentence. 0.99
00:34:59.100 And he says very clearly justice in America and in Colorado needs to be applied evenly.
00:35:04.560 And I mean, this is the exact issue that we're talking about here.
00:35:07.580 And I think he he can't avoid it.
00:35:09.600 I know Tito appreciates the fact that he had the courage to actually call this out because
00:35:13.740 everyone on the left and on his side of the aisle, all these people who are involved
00:35:18.280 in Tina Peters persecution, they don't want this to happen. 0.94
00:35:23.340 And Jared Polis actually has to use some some cojones to to do the right thing here. 0.69
00:35:29.220 And I have faith that he will.
00:35:30.560 I just ask that people, you know, make sure that he knows that it's not about left or right.
00:35:36.240 He needs to do the right thing.
00:35:37.380 And he needs to do it now.
00:35:38.260 So if you contact his office, you know, call, that's absolutely fine.
00:35:42.940 Just be respectful and make him, you know, understand this is not about politics.
00:35:47.560 This is not about partisan ideas.
00:35:49.100 This is about a grave injustice that cannot be corrected.
00:35:53.420 Tina Peters will not get this time back. 0.97
00:35:55.700 It cannot be fixed for her.
00:35:57.400 The only justice is that she needs to be let out immediately.
00:36:01.600 Apollo, I think I'd say from the entire audience, and this is we've played on Real
00:36:05.580 America's Voice in War Room a number of times that Tina Peters is special, that a
00:36:09.440 particularly shout out to you and the entire team that you've got that have been
00:36:13.640 steadfast and making sure her podcast is going and you're in contact with her
00:36:18.240 frequently because inside a prison is a is a tough place to make contact with the
00:36:22.980 outside world.
00:36:23.840 And I know you guys have done an extraordinary job.
00:36:26.080 So from the entire War Room posse, good on you.
00:36:30.040 Now, where do people go to support you guys, to donate, to do what we need to do to make
00:36:35.080 sure we drive the and the lawyers are paid, all of that.
00:36:37.780 Where do folks go?
00:36:39.780 The only place is Tina Peters dot us. 1.00
00:36:41.800 You'll find links to support her legal fund right there on the home page.
00:36:45.280 And you, of course, have the link down below that will help her with commissary, with her
00:36:49.960 living expenses.
00:36:50.860 She does still have bills. 0.99
00:36:52.540 So Tina Peters dot us and right there on the home page.
00:36:56.540 And if you scroll down, you'll see all the links.
00:36:58.520 Anyone who can donate to Tina Peters 518 days, as you can see right there.
00:37:02.360 And, uh, you know, it's, it's been hard.
00:37:05.020 So she needs your help.
00:37:06.440 And I just pray that Jared Polis does the right thing here and Tina can finally go home
00:37:12.020 for the first time in almost a year and a half now.
00:37:15.140 Thank you, sir.
00:37:15.880 Appreciate you.
00:37:17.460 Thank you, Steve.
00:37:18.220 If we can get that, uh, if we can get the Polis number up and if Grace and Mo can push 0.93
00:37:22.220 out that, but I think you saw from last night, from the representation of, uh, of how the
00:37:29.600 Warren posse and other grassroots members delivered, uh, on, uh, proposition 10, just
00:37:37.340 extraordinary.
00:37:38.580 Also a big turnout across the state.
00:37:40.500 And as we had Luke Macias on today, many, many cats won on war room, Texas.
00:37:45.380 I had the, I had the precinct chairs, I think it was Montgomery County, Texas that were under
00:37:51.200 siege by the establishment.
00:37:53.820 I think the establishment got beat up last night.
00:37:55.960 They contacted me with, uh, with really good news and we're going to have them on tomorrow
00:38:00.660 as our special guest on another war room, Texas to tell their story.
00:38:05.100 Let's go to Illinois, Annie Pritchard, Annie, you've been a precinct chair, but once
00:38:10.460 again, uh, and you see this all over the country, you, you've been under siege.
00:38:14.940 Tell us your story, but I take it that we're going to have potentially a good resolution
00:38:19.340 here, ma'am.
00:38:21.740 Yes, we, um, we did have, uh, some, a good resolution today.
00:38:26.320 Um, this, thanks for having me on Steve.
00:38:29.660 Um, it's very important, um, to reach your audience because what's happened in Rock Island
00:38:35.480 County is happening all over the nation with, um, grassroots leaders that come into, uh,
00:38:43.140 a, um, party that's been in place for years.
00:38:47.500 And they basically have a Lincoln day dinner, a, you know, Christmas party and a picnic in
00:38:53.460 the summer and maybe walk in a few parades.
00:38:55.400 And when grassroots leaders come in that want to like run candidates and work hard, like our
00:39:01.980 team did, um, it, it causes conflict and where it's, it's very confusing to us that just want
00:39:08.040 to work.
00:39:08.500 So, um, what happened to us was, um, that, uh, in August, uh, a few people decided that, um,
00:39:18.100 they didn't like me anymore.
00:39:19.620 And so they called a meeting, uh, they called a meeting of the members without following proper
00:39:27.360 notification processes.
00:39:29.980 And so we ran their meeting notification past our parliamentarian and we ran it past the
00:39:36.340 state chairman for the Illinois GOP and the attorney representing the Illinois GOP.
00:39:42.120 They both gave statements that the meeting was improperly noticed and that anything that
00:39:48.740 came from that meeting could not be part of the official record.
00:39:52.100 But these people had the meeting anyway, and they decided to vote me out, um, no, no executive
00:39:59.920 board, um, quorum, uh, a minimum number of precinct committeemen, certainly not anywhere near the 42
00:40:07.660 we have.
00:40:08.540 So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,
00:40:10.660 but hang on a second, hang on a second before we get into the details and we see this all over.
00:40:16.400 That's why I think you're like the women in, in Montgomery County, Texas were a great example.
00:40:20.720 You're a great example.
00:40:21.880 We hear this all over where the people come into the precinct strategy, they become a precinct, uh,
00:40:27.780 a member, then they become a precinct chair and, and the establishment automatically hates it.
00:40:33.100 You know, Steve Stern's got thousands of stories like this where you guys come in, you want action,
00:40:38.260 you want better candidates, you want a grassroots movement, you want to start winning,
00:40:41.620 particularly in states like Illinois, where you guys think that, hey, we can start to represent
00:40:45.800 here in the established or the people who've been there for years, hate it. In fact, they hate you
00:40:51.100 more than the Democrats and they spend all their time, time trying to thwart it. The question I have,
00:40:55.680 because we get this all over the country, why, why are the establishment Republicans that have
00:41:02.000 a Lincoln Reagan day dinner? They have a, they have a picnic in the summer and they have a Christmas
00:41:07.920 party. If that's it, why not just you, but across the country, why are they so upset when the precinct
00:41:17.540 strategy people, the Dan Schultz inspired people, the Steve Stern inspired people, the war room posse,
00:41:22.480 when you guys show up and really want to have a, a grassroots effort to actually win elections and
00:41:29.480 then govern like your MAGA. Why do they hate that so much? We, we've asked ourselves that question
00:41:37.800 all for eight months. And what they, what they did after they had this meeting was they filed a D1,
00:41:44.600 which is a statement of organization with the state board of elections. And what, what that,
00:41:50.220 with that, they took that to the bank. They got our bank account. They took that, they, they got our
00:41:56.060 mail. They got our social media. They got our phone number. And we, the only option that the state
00:42:03.900 board of elections gave us was to, to get a judgment from the court, because these are crimes. You can't
00:42:11.120 just do this. And so it took us eight months to find an attorney and raise the money for the retainer.
00:42:21.180 And, and, and we finally got that done. And then, and we get to court in February and the judge
00:42:29.380 hands down gave them and gave us a temporary order of protection saying, give them all their things
00:42:35.640 back. You know, we, we, and we've been trying to do that, but they, they immediately filed,
00:42:43.380 put out a notice saying that the, the order of protection means nothing, that they're still the,
00:42:50.860 in charge of the party that, and they, they accuse us of doing things that we didn't do. You know,
00:42:58.600 they're making false claims against us that are actually, it's been really hard not to take it
00:43:05.280 personal. And, but now we have a wonderful attorney, Richard Cannon out of Elk Grove. And he was in
00:43:15.780 court with us today. We filed contempt of court charges. The judge ruled in our favor. He,
00:43:24.000 they must return our bank account to the same level it was when they took it. And they must give us back
00:43:33.480 our social media, our Facebook, our, our website. We are getting our mail again, and we still don't have
00:43:43.840 our phone number. We started another organization. I tell you, Annie, Annie, Annie, hang on one second.
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00:45:48.940 So, Glenn's story joins me. Annie, real quickly, I'm going to have you back on to go through because
00:45:54.240 I think you tried to make some changes, and they said, no, we don't want any changes. This is all
00:45:59.020 over the country with the grassroots and particularly the precinct strategy. Where do people go if they
00:46:04.320 want to support you, Annie, in your fight? I think your message is, hey, don't give up. Dig in. Get a
00:46:09.400 lawyer. Don't let the establishment chase you out of there. Where do people go, Annie, to find out
00:46:14.380 more about your case and to assist you? IllinoisFreedomAlliance.us. There's a donate button at
00:46:21.060 the bottom of the page, and that is what we need support for the legal costs, and I want everyone
00:46:26.320 to know, do not fold. Do not bend. Do not give up. Hire an attorney. Don't let people walk all over
00:46:34.660 you or chase you out of the party. That is what they want. As much as I've wanted to quit, I'm going
00:46:40.640 to stay in the fight, and I want you to stay in there with me, and you can call me at 309-377-1776,
00:46:47.440 and I will help you in any way possible. Annie, you're a patron warrior. Thank you so much for
00:46:52.040 having me on. No, Annie, you're amazing. You're tough as boot leather. You're never going to.
00:46:56.500 Listen, these people are tortured. They're tortured. They're thrown with bankruptcy, legal. Look what they
00:47:01.460 did, or took the bank account and everything. Annie will have you back on. You keep fighting.
00:47:06.200 Annie Parchet in Illinois, but we could have a thousand of these stories. We're going to start
00:47:11.260 doing more. This is why we had the women from Montgomery County, Texas, and guess what? 0.94
00:47:15.600 They won last night. They wanted me to know that they won with 65 percent. Two-thirds of the vote
00:47:20.520 voted for them. All they need is a little access to their stories, and it's going to happen.
00:47:25.940 Grassroots here in Texas. Glenn Story joins me. Grassroots in Texas. Unbelievable coming together.
00:47:31.460 All of the thanks and appreciation go to the grassroots organizations that did this
00:47:38.080 last night, and the voters in Texas who finally had a permission structure to say,
00:47:43.700 hey, we want to prohibit serial law in the state of Texas. We want this to happen,
00:47:48.900 and it goes in the grassroots groups. But this was done with Jenny, a handful of volunteers,
00:47:54.640 all the groups working together, and no money. Yeah, no question about it. You just look at
00:47:59.220 the folks up in Denton County, Collin County, Tarrant County. They all really bonded together,
00:48:05.000 and they formed a coalition, and that coalition was really not to knock Islam. That's not the
00:48:11.100 problem. It's this anti-the Sharia law that comes in that's just contrary to the Constitution,
00:48:16.340 and people don't want, you know, we don't want to lose our country is really what it boils down to.
00:48:21.060 We love our God. We love our country, and we love our family.
00:48:24.280 Well, this is why I think the conference, and Glenn Beck and Gert Wilders, that dinner that
00:48:28.800 kicked it off on 9th January, it gave people permission to talk about it. It was right below
00:48:33.920 the surface. Once that happened, everybody's talking about it. It's the first question in the
00:48:38.220 AG's race. It was the first question for people running for ag. Remember, ag commission. Oh, yeah.
00:48:45.020 Beau French comes from nowhere, and Beau is one of the biggest, you know, on the Railroad Commission.
00:48:49.860 Beau is a statewide figure now because he made this issue a big deal up in Tarrant County.
00:48:56.300 These counties north of Dallas are under siege with this Islamic invasion, and this was the 1.00
00:49:04.180 first, this was the mechanism to allow people to talk about it and bond together. I tell people about
00:49:09.380 this brutal, you know, looks like runoff we might have or gonna have, that this can bring people
00:49:15.400 together, not tear people apart with these negative ads. Well, I think it really does,
00:49:19.740 because we know that John Cornyn, now I'm not bringing Cornyn up, but I will, spent $80 million
00:49:24.800 or some ridiculous amount of money, which was 20x that of Ken Paxton. And look, Ken Paxton
00:49:30.840 still garnered 40-something percent of the vote, and then you look at Cornyn on the other hand,
00:49:36.060 how much did he pay for each vote? I think it was $215. What, but just Paxton. Paxton stood in the
00:49:44.780 breach. You've known Paxton for a long time. Long time. The grassroots love him here. He's an icon.
00:49:48.620 Why is that? Because he stood in the breach on the toughest of all the decisions he had to make.
00:49:54.260 Look, he's one of the few that stood in the gap and says, come on, I will take you on and I'll live
00:50:01.480 with my decisions. And the fact of the matter is, there is no other politician, no other attorneys
00:50:07.020 general that stepped in the line of fire to say, okay, we're taking Biden on and, and, and Obama.
00:50:13.660 And he did it and he did it successfully. And it really ticked off a bunch of folks.
00:50:18.080 And you know, because everybody comes to see you, right? Everybody comes,
00:50:21.680 I can see the Patriot Mobile guys. So you've seen them all and you know, the ones that'll stand in
00:50:26.060 the breach and you can count on. And hopefully president Trump knows that. He can always count
00:50:29.700 on Ken Paxton. Patriot Mobile. I'm going to get Mike Lindell up in a second.
00:50:34.080 Who's his first, first act. First act is banning Sharia law in Minnesota. Patriot Mobile. The company's 0.57
00:50:40.140 great. How do people make the switch today? Yeah, it's very simple. 972 Patriot call. Tell them you
00:50:45.720 heard about us on the war room. You're a part of the war room posse. And, um, you know, you will
00:50:51.100 not regret it. And I said it yesterday, Jason Aldean, he's over in, he's down in Australia. He said,
00:50:57.080 Hey, thanks. Thank you for the happy birthday. But man, your phone service works smoking hot down
00:51:02.300 here. I got to do this and get big legged by you and Jason Aldean. Before you go, we got to say
00:51:09.940 hello to Trent and the Seattle Seahawks. He literally just texted me and said, your wife was 0.99
00:51:16.240 good today, better. Good this morning. I said, well, look, wait till I get on in about 30 minutes
00:51:21.320 and talk about how great the Seahawks are. Yeah. That's tough doing that down here in Texas.
00:51:26.740 Hey, look, they put their God first at the Seahawks. I'm not going to say anything else.
00:51:30.640 Glenn Story. Thank you so much. Mike Lindell, first act as, uh, we got a couple of minutes.
00:51:34.900 First act as governor is going to be what? Manning Sharia law here in Minnesota. Absolutely. 0.95
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00:53:18.780 Mike Lindell, we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you so much, sir. Stick around for the second
00:53:22.200 hour of the war room. Ben Harnwell is going to take him from here tomorrow morning.
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