00:03:10.820You are waiting for the U.S. military to invade the ground troops?
00:03:14.820Yes, because we are confident that we can confront them, and that would be a big disaster for them.
00:03:20.820And that would be a big disaster for them.
00:03:25.820So you're saying that Iran is ready and willing to take on the U.S. military if there were to be ground troops?
00:03:31.820Well, we were ready for this war even more than the previous war.
00:03:37.820So you can see, you know, the quality of our missiles, how much they are upgraded after the last war, because we learned lots of lessons.
00:03:45.820And we are prepared for any other eventuality, even, you know, a ground invasion.
00:03:51.820So our soldiers are prepared for any scenario.
00:03:54.820When I said that we are waiting for them, it didn't mean that we are waiting for continuation of the war. No.
00:04:01.820But we have prepared ourselves to confront with any scenario, with any eventuality, any possibility, and we know that we can handle that.
00:04:09.820When it comes to the war itself, it seems that Lebanon is quickly becoming a major front, with Israel targeting Hezbollah fighters there.
00:04:16.820The U.S. and Israel continue striking Iran, and Iran is attacking several countries in the Gulf.
00:04:21.820Some European nations are now deploying their planes and ships to the area, but they insist it is only to protect their people and their interests and not to join the attack on Iran.
00:04:32.820Meanwhile, the House narrowly voted down a resolution today that could have reined in Trump's war powers in Iran.
00:04:39.820The Senate did the same thing yesterday, which means that whatever happens in this war going forward, Republicans in Congress own it just as much as President Trump does.
00:04:50.820Well, we just had an important series of votes on the House floor.
00:04:53.820As you know, the war powers resolution failed.
00:06:51.820He, just broadly speaking, he insists that on a scale of 10, with 10 being the best, he thinks that the war is, I would say, at 12, maybe 15.
00:07:03.820He said that the US is doing very well militarily, quote, better than anybody could have dreamed.
00:07:11.820He said that he rebuilt the military in his first term.
00:07:42.820Image abroad, and specifically, how are our NATO allies computing all of this?
00:07:48.820I think this is a gigantic blow against America's soft power.
00:07:54.820I mean, the last time we took a hit like this was probably the Iraq War in 2003, when our positive rating all around the world was like in the teens.
00:08:04.820I think, you know, we're risking this kind of clash of civilizations with the West against the Muslim world.
00:08:12.820I think America's brand now, even though Trump says it's the hottest in history, by the way, whatever that means, the hottest in history, like a 1980s phrase.
00:08:21.820I mean, it's exactly the opposite of that.
00:09:45.820Friday, 6 March, in the year of earlier, 2026.
00:09:54.820Do you feel that we're in a fourth turning yet?
00:09:56.820Is that, are you now believe in our theory of turnings?
00:10:02.820So, there's so much going on, I want to cut through all the noise and focus on the signal.
00:10:09.820One thing, can I play the, so I got Brandon Weikert up here for some military observations about this ongoing military operation.
00:10:17.820President Trump did come out a few minutes ago, I'll get to that, and put out a true social where he said he was looking for unconditional surrender from the regime.
00:10:27.820Rahim Kassam also is going to join me to get updates from Rahim in thinking this all through, plus this situation in Texas with the Senate race.
00:10:35.820I want to go back, can we play the morning Mika clip, and I'll explain why this is so important.
00:10:41.820And we begin with breaking news in the war with Iran.
00:10:45.820The push to punish Iran is expanding from the battlefront to the banking system.
00:10:51.820Morning Joe has learned that the United Arab Emirates moved forward early this morning on its threat to freeze billions of dollars in Iranian assets.
00:11:02.820That's according to a top official in the region speaking with Joe.
00:11:06.820The U.A.E. has long been a financial hub for Iran and its business interests, seeking to avoid Western sanctions.
00:11:15.820The Wall Street Journal had reported that such a move by U.A.E. officials would sever a key economic lifeline for Iran and cut off its access to foreign capital and trade.
00:11:27.820The Iranians, who have fired over 1,000 missiles into the UAE, have suffered a sharp economic downturn that was responsible for public demonstrations that led up to the American and Israeli attacks on that country.
00:11:43.820OK, as we tell you, in war, particularly economic war, this is one of the dirty little secrets that, you know, a lot of people don't talk about because you would think that naturally UAE and Iran, in the Saudis particularly, those two have always been directly confrontational with the with the Iranians.
00:12:02.820Whereas Qatar maybe was in business with them joint, you know, had had the gas fields part of our jointly are jointly run.
00:12:11.820The reality is, and this is why there's such an important development, we'll get into some of the economics of hitting these refineries, hitting desalination plants.
00:12:20.820The Dubai, the Dubai, the Dubai is the equivalent of was a Tartuga for the Caribbean pirates, Captain Morgan in that crowd and also a financial center back then where they could actually trade their stolen goods into into cash, into gold.
00:12:40.380Same thing here, the financial center, the reason that the Persians can get around sanctions, the reason that they could still survive is they use the buy and use the banks, just like in the Ukraine Russian war, when the EU and the EU banks and Biden regime talked about seizing the financial assets of the of the Russian people.
00:13:07.900And clearly that had a major impact, a massive impact on Russia's ability to to continue the war here.
00:13:14.580The same thing, the economic war, the total war that's happening in around Iran is only metastasizing.
00:13:23.020This is why the Chinese Communist Party, the Russians who have been the Chinese Communist Party has been just sitting there because one of the ways they do their trade is to buy.
00:13:30.880But UAE actually announcing they're prepared to didn't say they're doing it, but prepared to seize the financial assets will change the game here.
00:13:38.860And I really start to cut the Iranians off from any ability to actually do financial transactions.
00:13:46.980They do this, but it's really through through Dubai.
00:13:49.520And that is a major announcement also shows you the types of hits that the Iranians, although they're being very degradation of their systems, is pretty advanced.
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00:16:32.960Just want to make sure we get the timeline here correct.
00:16:36.060I think we're in the seventh day of this.
00:16:38.480I guess the sixth day of this world will be rolling into the seventh.
00:16:41.220By the way, we are going to do a Sunday show.
00:16:43.240Like I said, we're going to do seven days a week until, I don't know, there's some clarity on this entire situation.
00:16:49.040If people, if our armed forces, our men and women are 24-7, seven days a week, the least we can do is inform the war and posse and make sure we get as much information to you guys as possible.
00:17:01.540So, obviously, our Saturday show, tomorrow morning, 10 to noon, as we always do, Eastern Standard Time.
00:17:07.060And on Sunday, thanks to the team at Real America's Voice and our War Room production team, we'll also do a Sunday show.
00:17:26.500And one of the things we're trying to do here is to make sure that you have as good a comprehensive view of exactly what's going on.
00:17:34.440And so then you can start to pull your own – this audience can start to pull their own assessments.
00:17:39.720We're going to treat you like adults and give you as much information for as many different experts as possible who are on very different sides of this conflict.
00:17:48.780And that's why you'll see Rabbi Walecki and you'll see, you know, a Brian Kennedy and a Frank Gaffney.
00:17:54.700And you'll also see a Trita Parsi and Kurt Mills.
00:17:58.880We try to get you all the information.
00:18:00.180Eric Prince, who I think did a great job this week.
00:18:09.200This is why the financial part of this – because we were the first ones to identify the financial aspects and the economic aspects of the Ukraine-Russian war.
00:18:18.400It's one of the reasons that – there's many operational reasons, but one of the reasons that the Russians really – you know, the 20 percent of Ukraine they've taken, it's been kind of stagnant for the last couple of years.
00:18:29.840One of the reasons is that they've had some real financial and economic problems.
00:18:32.920And that was – part of that was what was done by seizing their assets, which is this is also – for those of you that were smart enough to get into gold back when it was 2,000 bucks.
00:18:45.220So we started talking about it or really partnered with Birch when it was 1,100.
00:18:49.920But that part of the Russian-Ukraine war we said had never been done before.
00:19:17.960It went in and had a massive strike on one of the remaining command centers.
00:19:21.540But as I look at this, the most interesting and fascinating part to me, the real center of gravity I think of this war right now is the Persian Gulf and the Gulf and particularly the Emiratis, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, the Saudis, and Bahrain.
00:19:38.720That, to me, is one of the most fascinating parts of this, how the wars metastasized there.
00:19:44.420And if you look at it, as much as Israel has taken incoming or the amount of incoming that the degraded forces of the Iranians can hit, and the Israelis right now I think are as focused on Lebanon almost as they are on Tehran, the center of gravity of this battle and where it may be determined is in the Gulf states, both financially, economically, with commodities like water.
00:20:09.180Brandon Weikert, you're one of our experts.
00:20:16.660I do want to challenge the traditional interpretation of the Klaus-Witzian model only because I think we live now in the age of war that is decentralized.
00:20:27.560So I actually think you will have multiple centers of gravity.
00:20:31.100Back in Klaus-Witz's day, it was always, as you note, the primary center, and we're going to break that apart.
00:20:36.420But ever since 9-11 and having lived through now two wars in the Middle East, we should all be aware we're not fighting centralized enemies really anymore.
00:20:48.380Even in Ukraine, you have a decentralized network approach, which means you have sort of these multiple theaters and multiple centers of gravity all pulling our attention.
00:20:58.560And so one of those centers of gravity is the conventional realm, which is the bombardment of Iran.
00:21:04.060And as I noted yesterday, we have local air superiority that gives us pockets to maneuver and really conduct strikes.
00:21:12.000But as you rightly note, the Iranian front is really focused on haranguing not only the Israelis in their backyard, but haranguing the Arabs in their homes.
00:21:24.940And so far, that has been the really untold story.
00:21:28.940We talk about the Strait of Hormuz closure and its effect on oil.
00:21:32.060We talk about the refineries being struck.
00:21:53.620They're hitting Israel as much as they can hit it.
00:21:55.560And I do believe that Captain Fennell and CENCOM is going through this punch list of degradation of their missile program, air program, all that.
00:22:07.300But the center of gravity, at least the major center of gravity, is Muslim versus Muslim.
00:22:32.660So those desalinization plants are basically the lifeblood for the citizens of those Arab countries.
00:22:41.080I mean, remember, this is a giant desert we're talking about, yet they have these magnificent cities they've built in the middle of these harsh environments, and that's because of desalinization.
00:22:48.880And once you pop open those tanks, they're not coming back online for a while.
00:22:55.320So that means, as you noted, you better start filling up your bathtubs now because now we're talking about water shortages, and we're talking about this not only being an oil war, but now this being a water war.
00:23:06.380And water wars, we're talking Mad Max here.
00:23:08.920So this is exactly what the Iranians want, though.
00:23:11.640And you note the intra- or the inter-Muslim fighting.
00:23:15.600I would caution – I would only say this.
00:23:17.880That's correct on the superficial level right now.
00:23:20.900But we have to understand the regimes that run these Arab countries are pro-American, and they're nominally pro-Israel even now.
00:23:28.440But the people of the region are not necessarily pro-American or pro-Israel.
00:23:35.080And the longer this war goes on and the more those governments look incompetent and ineffective, the more likely there will be revolutions in these Arab states that will threaten and probably overthrow some of these friendly Arab regimes and replace them with Islamists.
00:23:51.240And this gets us into the nightmare scenario that my friend Dr. Michael Scheuer has been talking about for 15 years, which is the fusion of Shiite and Sunni extremism into one.
00:24:03.120And it's not unprecedented, Steve, because during the global war on terror, Iran was allowing their territory to be used as a transit node for al-Qaeda fighters coming out of Afghanistan, going into Iraq, and vice versa.
00:24:16.680So this is the real concern I have is the Iranian attacks on these Arab governments is meant to show that they are feckless and weak and they are gelded, and it will trigger a natural response from the Arab people who are going to want to overthrow those governments because they want water.
00:24:35.020Let me – let's just pull back for a second.
00:24:37.280As the American offense – and President Trump just put up a true social earlier this morning calling for unconditional surrender.
00:24:45.080Last night, I think we had the clip play, he was adamant with the military.
00:24:50.760You either surrender and you'll get to live and maybe you'll get immunity or you're going to die.
00:24:55.640I mean his warnings on this couldn't be starker.
00:24:58.480Obviously he's been calling for people to – he's looking for the Persian people as he was a month ago to take this in their own hands and rise up.
00:25:06.000Are you saying that the Iranian strategy on the counterside is saying, okay, there's 3 million people in Qatar.
00:25:12.920There's only 300,000 in the tribe that runs the country, right?
00:25:16.240All the guys we see all the time are from the 300,000.
00:25:18.600It's really only a couple thousand that run it.
00:25:21.580The same UAE has got issues with tons of foreigners, I think a lot of Shiite, and they've been trying to topple the 22 million in Saudi Arabia.
00:25:31.420Are you saying that you believe the Iranian strategy, hey, if Israel and America is going to do it to us, we're going to see how long you stand?
00:25:41.360I just want to also add the president's strategy is deeply flawed.
00:25:44.760It's based on a very flawed understanding of the Iranian regime.
00:25:48.800Remember your son, Sue, and I know you're not only a military guy, Steve, but you're also a business guy.
00:25:53.240So I remember the 80s, I know they were teaching this to you guys, Sun Tzu, he said, always leave your enemy an avenue of escape because otherwise, and I'm paraphrasing now,
00:26:03.560otherwise that enemy will become a fanatic and will fight you to the death.
00:27:23.420And the Shah's guys had been trained by Western military.
00:27:26.440They were – a lot of them were secular.
00:27:28.040There were 500 Iranian midshipmen when I was at Officer Canada School.
00:27:34.020The Iranian midshipmen were a greater number in Newport, Rhode Island than the American cadets, the American midshipmen that we had at Officer Canada School.
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00:29:50.620Okay, we're going to get back to the golf part of this.
00:29:59.900Also, Bibi, it seems like this may be the last scene from the first Godfather film, but we'll get into that with Bernard Weicker in a moment.
00:30:10.440I've got you here because of the primary reason is because of what's going on in Texas, but I want to get to that in a moment.
00:30:16.700Your thoughts and observations on where we stand.
00:30:20.520Mike Johnson went out yesterday after the—and there's not going to be any War Powers Act movement, at least now, and said this is a major military operation focused on taking out the weapon systems, taking out the ballistic missile capability, and also the ability to manufacture them, et cetera, et cetera.
00:30:38.140It looks like the objectives may have shifted overnight from the president, but your observations overall, sir?
00:30:47.880Well, this will be a situation I think that will change day to day quite drastically.
00:30:53.760I really—and I hate to say this—I really don't think that the administration in the United States had thought through just how much the Iranians had thought through this,
00:31:03.980especially after previous attacks, especially after previously, you know, having their nuclear enrichment programs somewhat crippled.
00:31:12.260They have been making a number of different contingency plans for months now, and I'm not sure, especially given the intelligence relationships around the world at the moment, that the U.S. administration went into this with completely clear eyes.
00:31:27.280I have spoken to a lot of senior people across the government in recent days, and in fact, we were the first to break this weekend, way before anybody gave it in an interview, the idea that they had prepared for a four-week engagement here.
00:31:44.920I do think it will be longer than that at this point, especially with what you're seeing as this war sort of expands into Lebanon and so on and so forth.
00:31:55.900You're starting to see that mission creep, and you're also starting to see some movement by the Islamic regime in Tehran to lure America in to a ground operation.
00:32:10.640I think that is the next part of this.
00:32:13.060I don't think they're going to surrender.
00:32:15.400I don't think they're going to allow President Trump to be handpicking the next supreme leader.
00:32:21.980Firstly, that would be a spiritual sellout as far as they're concerned, but also, of course, a geopolitical one.
00:32:30.780And I think also they prepared for this by massacring so many people who probably would be out on the streets of Iran across the country right now had they not been slaughtered a month or so ago.
00:32:43.620And on the basis of, you know, they went out there because the United States said that if you go out there, we will have your backs.
00:32:52.900And if the regime touches you, we will punish them.
00:32:56.920Now, maybe that punishment is happening now.
00:32:58.920And, of course, for the people who have been rightly decapitated in the Iranian regime by the U.S. government, that's true.
00:33:07.480But for the ordinary Iranian people, they simply cannot feel confident right now that this is going to end in anything other than an even more heinous, even more dictatorial, even more authoritarian regime out of Tehran.
00:33:25.640And the worst thing the president can be doing now is thinking, right, we've got to start thinking of putting boots on the ground here.
00:33:32.700Because that is exactly what they want.
00:33:34.400That is more caskets, that is more body bags, that is more Dover, that is more American flags, that's drooped on coffins, and that is precisely what the Iranian regime wants.
00:33:45.360How long, hang around, I've got to get to this Paxson thing in a moment, but I look at our allies, and this goes back to Rubio's speech, and really a look at the war.
00:33:56.720And it's one of the reasons we're in Texas and put this, you know, Proposition 10.
00:34:00.140How long can the Labour government actually be an ally of the United States when you have a significant radical voice of Islamists actually in London and some in Parliament?
00:34:15.520Is this war going to spread to Europe as part of the issue of these Islamists really taking on these governments that supposedly are allies?
00:34:24.280Well, I mean, the Labour government in the United Kingdom has all manner of problems on this, right?
00:34:30.580Number one, their own back benches are probably more in the camp of the Iranian mullahs than they are in the camp of the United States.
00:34:38.500I mean, a lot of the parliamentary Labour Party has been seen to be up in arms about what's going on here.
00:34:44.580And look, there are right reasons to do so, strategic geopolitical considerations that need to be taken place, but they're not operating from that basis.
00:34:53.080They're operating from the fact that they do actually feel more solidarity with Islamist Muslims the world over than they feel with perhaps Donald Trump and his administration.
00:35:02.580The Labour Party, the Labour government, they know, this government itself knows it's on its last legs, right?
00:35:11.120You've got major elections coming up in May, local elections all around the country.
00:35:16.400They are losing in special elections all over the place.
00:35:19.400They lost to the Green Party last week in a special election.
00:35:23.040They lost two more council seats to the Reform Party last night.
00:35:29.480And everybody I speak to, whether it's over here or over there, I'm talking on the left.
00:35:34.440I'm talking people who associate with the Labour Party, tells me that Keir Starmer doesn't have long to go as prime minister.
00:35:41.320He knows he doesn't have long to go as prime minister.
00:35:43.700So the last thing he wants to do, as in chronologically the last thing, you know, for him, is going into and sending troops into a war here.
00:35:52.760He doesn't want to do it. He doesn't want that to be his legacy.
00:35:55.760Not that it's going to be pretty good anyway when he leaves, but this, he feels, would be the ultimate blow to his backbenches, to his supporters,
00:36:03.380which, as we know, especially up and down the country, are significantly Muslim voters.
00:36:10.220Yeah, no, I was told yesterday by a number of people I talked to that this whole situation with the airfield is that the British government is actually proposing,
00:36:18.780and said, hey, hang on, just for the optics, politics, with the radical Muslims we have in the Labour Party, these guys in commons,
00:36:26.940that we're just going to block it for like five or six hours, and then we're going to give you full access.
00:36:32.040But we have to come out and block it for the specific reason that they have a Muslim base that will literally try to topple the government right now if they did that.
00:36:41.140They try to do these phony optics, and that shows you this is why we're having this fight in Texas right now, Raheem.
00:36:51.920These Western governments are really not with us, and now we're in this conflict in the Middle East against some of the most radical Islamists around,
00:37:00.720and you're seeing people are choosing sides, right?
00:37:04.860Well, Steve, you know, the British government now has probably two things it's operating with that are hanging over its neck, right?
00:41:39.860It has been one misdirection and lie after another, which is needed sometimes for OPSEC.
00:41:44.340I agree, but just as an analytical, independent point of view, I do not believe for a second that the missile threat has been negated either in Lebanon or in Iran,
00:41:55.680nor, by the way, do I believe they have fully degraded Hamas' capabilities in Gaza.
00:42:00.620And now you're seeing this kind of pincer movement happening.
00:42:06.320The Houthis have been keeping their powder dry because they are ready to deploy their hypersonic weapons targeting Israel.
00:42:12.860Why have they – the Houthis, which are always an interesting crew, they have been noticeably silent in this entire time.
00:42:21.200And these were brothers that were in the fight with the – they were taking on the United States Navy in the Red Sea, right, and actually got a couple of hits in.
00:42:34.880In terms of the Houthis, the Iranians are clearly engaged in a long-term staggered strategy.
00:42:41.040So they are not going to throw everything at once at the enemy.
00:42:45.460They're going to do these sort of bursts to keep operational tempo sort of like a concerto, a symphony.
00:42:52.620You have different parts operating at different times, but it's actually all in sync.
00:42:56.500And so I believe that the Houthis are in reserve.
00:42:59.340They're actively as a – basically a reserve force now.
00:43:02.520And they're going to come online when we least expect them to.
00:43:05.960I think it's very important to note that the Iranian military pointed out that the Americans appear to have thrown everything at the opening, which is our strategy usually.
00:43:18.380We throw overwhelming power at the opening of an engagement.
00:43:21.700That way we break the enemy's will, shock and awe.
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00:46:01.160I have been saying to people in the last 24 hours that it's almost like President Trump has a bigger war in Texas as he does in the Middle East right now.
00:46:12.320It's one of these things that is getting people, not just in Texas, but all around the country, absolutely invested and in some cases irate at the fact that President Trump might endorse and is indeed, you know, half expected to endorse one of his greatest detractors over the last decade, John Cornyn.
00:46:34.940Now, a significant development happened yesterday with Ken Paxton, who, you know, really does, to my mind, represent the most loyal, MAGA type of person that you could possibly get.
00:46:49.620I mean, this guy has been in Trump's corner, not just chit-chat and happy talk for the last decade, but actually on the front lines of this fight, on the legal front lines of this fight, on the political front lines of this fight.
00:47:01.840And he comes out and he says, look, you know, I understand the President has a hard decision to make, but I'm willing to stand aside in this race if the Senate immediately passes the Save America Act,
00:47:16.760which, you know, effectively is an invocation of a version of self-political sacrifice that somebody is willing to make for the country.
00:47:27.440But it's also very clever. It's also, as I said yesterday, kind of genius, because what it does is it turns the whole race into a referendum on the Save America Act.
00:47:39.260We know that John Thune and Cornyn and these guys do not have the same fervor and passion about American elections, their security, voter ID that the President and his base have.
00:47:53.760We know that they are reluctant to do anything about the filibuster.
00:47:59.260We know that the Senate GOP doesn't have the passion, the stamina to work with a talking filibuster over this.
00:48:07.160And so, Paxson is basically lobbing one up in the air and saying, go on, hit that.
00:49:32.140But actually, I'm going to stay out of this race and let Texans choose for themselves.
00:49:35.160That, I think, is the best-case scenario.
00:49:36.760I think, too, that there's a – it's not just that Cornyn – and you can see this in the scale and the viciousness of the attack ads on Ken Paxson.
00:49:49.120But the grassroots out here in the hardcore Trump base, it's not simply that Cornyn's a rhino.
00:49:57.940It's not simply that Cornyn's a manifestation of the Bush situation.
00:50:03.120It's not simply that all of us standing together to take out the Bush grandson a couple of years ago that Ken Paxson did, and he was the instrument to do that, that really shattered the Bush dynasty.
00:50:16.940It's not simply the fact of how they tried to impeach him for that and how we – the whole idea for War Room, Texas came on our defense of Ken Paxson and that bogus impeachment, of which galvanized the country and the grassroots.
00:50:31.540It's not – it's not just Cornyn's complete blowoff of any of the MAGA policies, okay?
00:50:40.260Now he's running as a border guy and all that, which is – they're all lies.
00:50:42.920It's the fact that there is a certain percentage of the MAGA base that will never vote for John Cornyn, and why?
00:50:52.580Because John Cornyn obviously hates Trump and has hated on Trump after the stealing of the 2020 election, the Jack Smith situation.
00:50:59.660These clips that are out there just infuriate people that Cornyn – and Cornyn untethered in a term where he would never run again.
00:51:10.200You have no earthy idea what this guy would do.
00:51:12.400It's his hate on Trump that has Trump's most fervent followers saying, I will never pull the trigger for that guy.
00:51:19.580I think he's the least likely to actually beat Tirico.
00:51:24.120Ken Paxson, mano a mano, will beat Tirico.
00:51:32.200I completely agree with that, by the way.
00:51:34.140And there is polling that shows that even if President Trump endorses Cornyn in this runoff, that Paxton can still win.
00:51:41.800And I sent that as an email out to our subscribers at the National Pulse last night and said, listen, if I hire a betting man, I'd throw in for Paxton.
00:51:52.400You know, firstly, I'd donate money to him, and then I'd put some money on him.