Bannon's War Room - March 13, 2026


Episode 5214: The MAGA Base Demands Mass Deportations Out Of The Admin


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On the heels of the anti-Semitic attack at a Jewish temple in Dayton, Ohio, Governor Rick Perry and Senator John Cornyn respond to the attack and offer condolences to the families affected by it. They also discuss what they are doing to combat anti-Semitism in the wake of the attack.

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00:00:00.340 Yesterday's attack was anti-Semitism. It was hate, plain and simple.
00:00:06.200 We will fight this ancient and rampant evil.
00:00:09.440 We will stand together as we do it, and we will call it out.
00:00:14.260 We must lower the rhetoric in this state and in this country,
00:00:20.120 especially at this moment where we have seen such a rise in anti-Semitism
00:00:23.900 and more attacks on the Jewish community.
00:00:26.060 We must keep each other close.
00:00:30.000 This community is on the edge, very understandably.
00:00:34.340 We've seen a rise in attacks, especially over the last decade, especially over the last 10 months.
00:00:43.940 And so it is important for us to stand up, to stand against it, and to thank the people who showed up to support the community,
00:00:51.920 but also call out where we see acts of anti-Semitism, where we see threats,
00:00:58.280 where we see something, how important it is to say something,
00:01:02.420 and to recognize that each of us has a responsibility.
00:01:07.720 People like the person that attacked this community yesterday get fomented by rhetoric
00:01:14.300 that they see online and that they see on television and they hear on the radio.
00:01:19.220 that radicalizes people and it endangers our fellow michiganders we cannot let this continue
00:01:26.280 and so each of us has a duty to take action where and how we can just want to reiterate i think it's
00:01:32.680 clear that if it were not for the private security and the staff at temple israel and then the first
00:01:40.540 responders first on the scene local law enforcement if they had not all done their jobs almost
00:01:46.160 perfectly, we would be talking about an immense tragedy here today with children gone. This could
00:01:53.540 have been much, much worse. So I give incredible credit to law enforcement and the people who were
00:01:58.800 in the room putting themselves and their own families at risk. I think, you know, the governor
00:02:05.640 said it very, very well on the way this community has responded. It's been incredible to watch
00:02:11.780 neighbors in the community here, both organizations and just regular old citizens, opened up their
00:02:19.180 homes literally yesterday to help care for people who were fleeing from this.
00:02:25.160 And this is a place that I have a very personal connection to. I feel I've spent a lot of my time
00:02:30.340 growing up in and out of this temple, and I feel just an immense amount of pain, as does the rest
00:02:38.160 of the community that incidents like this even happen. And I think it's just important to be
00:02:43.740 clear, as the governor said, that whether anti-Semitism is coming from the left or the
00:02:48.800 right, whether it's coming from some group that you like or don't like, you have a responsibility
00:02:54.720 to call it out. So do you think that Paxson or Cornyn? Do you hate it at all to Davy Crockett,
00:02:59.240 do you think? I don't think so. I'm going to have to do a DNA. I don't know if she was due
00:03:02.720 with 23andMe, but we could look into it.
00:03:04.980 Check it out.
00:03:06.440 I have a lot of free time.
00:03:10.440 Great frontiers.
00:03:11.320 So you're going to stay out of the primary then?
00:03:14.320 No, I'm not going to say it.
00:03:15.840 No, I want to do something.
00:03:16.800 But the main thing I have to do is find out who's going to get the Save America Act approved.
00:03:23.300 Well, I guess Senator John Thune's kind of at a logjam.
00:03:27.780 Yeah, I know.
00:03:28.620 Look, I think he's a wonderful person.
00:03:30.560 I do.
00:03:30.880 but he seems to be
00:03:32.600 not that he doesn't want to do it
00:03:36.060 he doesn't think he can do it
00:03:37.440 and that's bad
00:03:38.920 I mean how can you not get voter ID approved
00:03:40.920 how can you not get citizenship approved
00:03:44.080 proof of citizenship
00:03:46.100 that's what we're asking for
00:03:47.800 I hear you
00:03:48.200 this is the primal scream of a dying regime
00:03:54.280 pray for our enemies
00:03:56.720 because we're going medieval on these people
00:03:59.340 I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it
00:04:06.480 I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that
00:04:10.020 but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
00:04:13.560 to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people
00:04:20.660 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my
00:04:28.580 country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:04:41.200 It's Friday, 13th March in the year of our Lord, 2026. So we have lots of updates and things we
00:04:46.260 want to get to in detail about the war and the reaction to the war. We saw a couple of incidents
00:04:52.880 yesterday and the implication from the FBI, et cetera. Everybody ought to be on alert because
00:04:57.900 there could be more down at old dominion university i think the rt students
00:05:03.020 took it into their own hands and they were attacked by an isis guy guy had been sent to
00:05:08.020 prison federal prison for 10 years served seven i said yesterday when they reported three
00:05:12.360 they couldn't have been correct even biden wouldn't let somebody out just after a couple
00:05:16.900 years on the charges that he had but the rtc unit where he did kill the major that was in charge of
00:05:23.700 it um they attacked him with um they're essentially bare hands and killed him knifed him close order
00:05:30.980 combat in michigan and maybe they have information that we haven't seen and put forth but my
00:05:40.220 understanding is that the individual and by the way the first guy's a naturalized citizen the
00:05:45.860 second guy's a naturalized citizen it's a ticking time bomb a major problem that's what's got to be
00:05:52.280 address. The anti-Semitism, I believe at least the information has come out from Ryan Grimm and
00:05:57.120 some other people that have not been refuted. This guy's from Lebanon, and I believe that part
00:06:03.560 of his family or his children or some part of his family were hit with bombing from Israel in this
00:06:10.280 war. That's the case. I'm not so sure that falls under anti-Semitism. I think that falls under
00:06:15.960 the guy reacted to a war that we have going on, and now people should understand with a
00:06:22.220 major escalation today the announcement from the pentagon or at least leaked to the wall street
00:06:27.400 journal that we're sending 5 000 combat troops from japan a marine ready group and normally it's
00:06:34.220 2 500 i think they've announced it's 5 000 uh this war it's only going to get more complicated
00:06:40.080 and they were specifically targeted for the straits of hermuz which as you know has been a big
00:06:45.180 a matter of controversy about the military's focus on that and what's to be done with the
00:06:50.800 United States Navy and others. But I want to get to this issue because we had the mass deportation
00:06:58.200 announcement this week, but that was all predicated upon math. One of the things that
00:07:02.420 we're trying to do is look at those groups that are deeply involved in certain issue sets,
00:07:08.340 certain verticals that have been part of the coalition. The part of the coalition that brought
00:07:12.980 President Trump back from the political dead after the 2020 election was stolen from him,
00:07:18.320 and he was exiled to mar-a-lago and now you see a guy like cornyn um who's having to live with
00:07:26.240 his hating on president trump in those days it's had a big impact we had right there kilmeade um
00:07:32.720 brian kilmeade interviewing the president where president trump says hey i'm still interested in
00:07:36.640 doing it but i want to see the outcome of the save america act which president trump is once again
00:07:41.680 about immigration about no foreigners can vote only american citizens in uh u.s elections and that's
00:07:48.320 going to start next week and it's going to be hugely controversial and president trump saying
00:07:53.300 hey i don't want to hear happy talk and i don't want to see optics i don't want to see kabuki
00:07:56.740 theater i want to pass it on my desk and if you have to change the customs and traditions
00:08:01.820 of the um of the senate for a one-time deal i remember many people back the 60 um the 60 uh
00:08:12.320 vote uh filibuster as uh as the break cloture and to be brutally frank and rosemary jenks
00:08:19.040 going to join me in a second we would have had we would have had amnesty and i think daca and
00:08:24.460 everything else if it hadn't been for people got to remember that 60 vote saved us a couple of
00:08:30.000 three times but the democrats have signaled that they're not going to you know mansion and cinema
00:08:35.040 prohibit them last time they're gone so as soon as they get back in they're getting rid of it
00:08:40.680 This is adds the complexity. But the center beating heart of the problem is that we've allowed, first off, 15, 20, 25 million illegal alien invaders on Biden's watch, which is very systematically thought through.
00:08:56.140 Plus, we have a regular immigration system. And you see both of these individuals who one we know is actively ISIS because he went to federal prison about it.
00:09:07.460 And I don't know why the FBI wasn't on top of this guy more, but hey, that's for the FBI to answer.
00:09:12.720 The other, and maybe it's response to the Israeli attack, but clearly he had, you know, he had inclinations.
00:09:21.260 And another guy that's one of these guys in the immigration system that gets naturalized or is here on some sort of program that's got to be stopped.
00:09:30.220 Elizabeth Mitchell is with us and Rosemary Jenks.
00:09:33.500 Rosemary, I want to start with you because I want Elizabeth's reporting on the firestorm up on Capitol Hill about this topic in this issue.
00:09:41.620 I want to talk to you about you actually went out and said, hey, what we're going to do is very much what Jeffrey Tucker did about Bobby Kennedy and make America healthy again.
00:09:53.520 He goes, I'm not really believing these polls that I'm seeing.
00:09:57.740 And I'm certainly not believing some of the some of the things I'm hearing out of the White House or the West Wing that they're showing President Trump and some of this polling.
00:10:05.080 I'm going to go do my own poll. Talk to us about it.
00:10:08.440 You because you are looked at as one of the leaders of this movement.
00:10:12.560 You're now part of also the mass deportation coalition.
00:10:16.680 But you actually went back. And I think the genius of it is you went back and got the president's his two lead pollsters or Tony Fabrizio and John McLaughlin.
00:10:25.440 He went and got McLaughlin's organization to actually, and John's got his brother also,
00:10:30.100 he went back and got them to actually do the polling.
00:10:32.720 So walk me through, why did you do that?
00:10:35.520 Why did you feel it was necessary to do that?
00:10:37.680 And what questions did you ask?
00:10:39.340 And what does the math show you that it kind of informs the political firestorm that Elizabeth
00:10:46.180 Mitchell is reporting on?
00:10:48.380 Well, first, Steve, we did this because so many of the polls that you see in the public
00:10:53.920 arena now, have oversampled Democrats. So of course they get lower numbers. So we wanted a
00:11:00.600 poll that actually sampled Republicans, Democrats, and Independents at their shares of the voter base.
00:11:07.980 So that's exactly what we got with McLaughlin and Associates. That poll is of likely voters.
00:11:17.240 So it's not just any random guy off the street. It's actually people who are intending to vote.
00:11:22.600 and that matters when you're polling um so hang on hang on and most importantly hold it hold it
00:11:28.180 to the audience this is just not registered voters you went right to the people who are
00:11:33.260 telling you they're going to show up and actually vote which is a much more and you normally do that
00:11:38.260 closer to election day but that's kind of the gold standard when people are looking to where
00:11:43.180 do i target on what i have to do correct that's absolutely right and you know the fact that we
00:11:49.480 have a large enough sample size that we could pull out specifically Trump voters so we could
00:11:55.280 test how important mass deportations and his promise of the largest mass deportation operation
00:12:02.800 in U.S. history was to, you know, how they decided to vote for him. We also had a big enough sample
00:12:11.300 size to pull out Hispanic voters. So, you know, this is, it's a very well done poll. We asked a
00:12:19.100 whole series of questions. All of this is on our website at IAProject.org. You can find the entire
00:12:24.880 poll, the top lines, the summaries of it, everything at IAProject.org. And, you know,
00:12:33.140 we asked about a variety of things, not just straight up deportation, where we got 66% of
00:12:38.500 the American likely voters support mass deportations, but also things like mandatory e-verify
00:12:45.700 That polls at 78 percent support. Worksite fairness. Should wealthy elites be able to, you know, profit from illegal immigration when Americans have to pay for it? And that pulled between 75 and 80 percent.
00:13:01.720 We tested government cooperation. Should agencies like the Social Security Administration and the IRS be cooperating with DHS to enforce our immigration laws? Should state and local governments have to turn over information about illegal aliens to the federal government?
00:13:20.360 All of that stuff had a majority support, including among Hispanics. Now, obviously, the support was higher among Republican voters than it was among Democrats, but independents and Hispanics all support immigration enforcement overwhelmingly. It's not even a question.
00:13:38.620 So, you know, this should settle the debate. If Republicans want to turn out their base in the November elections, this is the issue to do it on. We need to follow through with what the president promised.
00:13:53.820 And that is the whole point of the Mass Deportation Coalition, to give the administration more ideas on how to accomplish mass deportations, because the voting public wants them, and we want them, too.
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00:16:35.980 okay elizabeth troutman mitchell from the daily signal and make the daily signal part of your
00:16:49.420 morning media uh diet it is um a fantastic site rob lewey and the team over there elizabeth um
00:16:58.120 this is about as important a story as we have because tied to what my cow came on this week
00:17:04.920 and of course the polling of rosemary jenks and her team over the inner of the immigration
00:17:10.020 accountability project you you kind of get into the the heart of the politics of it the story
00:17:16.260 and if we can i want to make sure we do two things in a segment if elizabeth if mo and um grace and
00:17:22.980 elizabeth can put up i want everybody to read the poll and go through the entire poll that was done
00:17:30.340 and we talked about earlier in the week by rosemary jenks because that sets kind of the
00:17:35.700 predicate for what reality is here's the reality a lot of the information you're hearing when people
00:17:40.660 come out said we're not going to use the word mass deportation anything it's counter to what
00:17:46.160 the facts are that's all donor driven that's donor talk not voter talk the two different things here
00:17:54.560 Uh, Elizabeth Mitchell, uh, give us, talk to us about your story. Just go through the reporting,
00:18:01.160 ma'am. So it was reported by Axios, um, earlier this week that James Blair, deputy chief of staff
00:18:08.600 for the president told Republicans to emphasize deportations of criminal illegal immigrants.
00:18:13.900 That's illegal immigrants with a criminal record rather than mass deportations. And I looked into,
00:18:20.180 I was able to confirm this with people who heard it from Blair himself and then was able to look
00:18:26.660 into reactions from various wings of the Republican Party. There are some Republicans
00:18:32.580 who are more conservative who said that President Trump ran on mass deportations and he didn't want,
00:18:38.500 this lawmaker did not want the media or Democrats to slow Republicans down from that mission,
00:18:45.060 citing a poll, another great poll that says
00:18:47.620 that 73% of Americans believe an immigrant,
00:18:51.100 a legal immigrant, is a criminal just by crossing
00:18:53.300 the border, no other crimes necessary.
00:18:55.520 So that was the reaction on one hand.
00:18:57.540 Many Republicans think that the president needs
00:18:59.780 to stick with that mass deportation promise
00:19:02.020 rather than just focusing on criminals.
00:19:03.680 Well, other Republicans told me that this is actually
00:19:06.580 something that they've been asking the president,
00:19:08.780 asking the White House to change their focus on.
00:19:11.740 One representative, Ralph Norman, even told me
00:19:14.020 that this has been the focus of the administration all along has been on criminal illegal immigrants.
00:19:19.000 The White House cited statistics showing that 70 percent of deportations have been criminals and 30 percent have been other illegal immigrants.
00:19:27.480 And so there's definitely not a unified stance right now in Congress and the Republican Party about the mass deportation issue.
00:19:35.500 What is now that you have a group that's coming together with all the grassroots leaders and the institutional leaders that have worked in this immigration?
00:19:44.020 situation for years under the umbrella of the mass deportation coalition and these are some
00:19:51.040 of the most aggressive i mean up in your grill people because they understand that this issue
00:19:56.480 is to the heart of so many of the problems here in the united states how do you think that will
00:20:00.580 change people's minds on capitol hill but in particular when you show the math that rosemary
00:20:06.180 jinx has and the math that you just talked about change their minds that the base of this party
00:20:14.020 and particularly this is a turnout these midterms are turnout elections how do you think that you
00:20:19.200 think that'll change the attitudes of some of the more moderate or because look we we got in this
00:20:23.900 situation with a republican party that was compliant with all this this situation is so
00:20:29.120 deep we got such a hole to dig ourselves out of that we only got here with the open borders radical
00:20:35.560 Democrats, but you had a controlled opposition, business-oriented, donor-oriented Republican
00:20:41.820 Party that kind of went along with it, right, and only gave kind of a kabuki theater fighting.
00:20:46.520 Do you think now that there's a coalition, now that there's additional polling, and now that
00:20:51.000 people are saying, hey, you ran on this, you won on this, and we need this in our own communities,
00:20:55.800 you think that'll change attitudes up there, ma'am? Yeah, I think that this coalition putting
00:21:00.720 pressure on Republicans, saying that the president promised the largest deportations in U.S. history
00:21:07.560 is what he promised to deliver.
00:21:09.220 And I think this coalition will continue reminding Republicans on the Hill that this is what
00:21:14.200 the president ran on, how he won the presidency, how Republicans won the House and the Senate,
00:21:19.300 and they stand to lose those if they back away from what the American people expect
00:21:23.540 to see.
00:21:24.080 I mean, at the RNC 2024, not long ago, people were holding mass deportation now signs.
00:21:29.740 This is something that was very popular with the party.
00:21:32.120 And I do think the White House's strategy of highlighting the worst of the worst criminals
00:21:35.940 has been very successful, showing on the screen at the press briefings the people who have
00:21:40.240 assaulted children, murdered people, raped women, highlighting those people being deported
00:21:45.300 because it's really hard to argue with the argument that those people should be removed
00:21:50.420 from the country.
00:21:51.420 But it remains that the president did run on deporting more than just those criminals.
00:21:56.140 And I think, yeah, this mass deportation coalition will likely apply pressure on that.
00:22:01.720 No, I mean, we're support.
00:22:02.960 We think the angel moms and what he's done to the angel moms is quite brilliant.
00:22:05.980 But now that we're in this war, you're going to see these issues pop up more than ever.
00:22:10.200 Before I let you go, you keep very close to this.
00:22:12.140 Let me just ask you the energy.
00:22:13.200 One of the things that struck me, because we covered live the Republican House, you know, the Doral meetings and when the president went.
00:22:23.780 And what struck me as interesting is that when the president said that was the day he actually said, because the capital markets have been terrible that day, he actually said, I think he talked at four in the afternoon, he said, hey, this is going to be a short war.
00:22:36.320 I think we can wrap this up this week.
00:22:38.140 It may be Thursday or Friday.
00:22:39.560 He had two standing ovations.
00:22:41.500 They jumped out of their seats and had standing ovations.
00:22:44.360 As the president went on and even talked about the Save America Act, particularly at the end, he was pretty adamant.
00:22:49.940 He said, hey, I need this.
00:22:51.980 The country needs this.
00:22:52.880 This has to happen.
00:22:53.780 There was almost a tepid, it was like you're at a tennis match or a USGA golf, you know, golf championship. It was very tepid kind of golf clapping or tennis clapping. Is the energy of the members, are they looking toward this midterm? Are they afraid of it? I just, I'm not seeing the energy you would want out of somebody that's saying, hey, we got great, we have great policies that we're fighting for. We're all in this fight. I kind of see deer in the headlights, man.
00:23:23.780 I think you're right. That lack of energy could be demonstrated by the lack of movement
00:23:28.820 we're seeing on the Save America Act. President Trump said he will not sign any legislation
00:23:32.800 until the Save America Act is on his desk. I can't remember another bill that has had
00:23:38.420 so much emphasis on it from the White House besides maybe the one big, beautiful bill.
00:23:42.000 They have really put their full weight into the Save America Act, and yet we're not seeing
00:23:45.680 a lot of movement in the Senate. It seems like there's not willingness to invoke the
00:23:49.500 We're talking filibuster, which is pretty much the only way that this seems like it could get passed now.
00:23:54.020 And so you're right.
00:23:54.860 I think we are seeing a lack of energy on the Hill about these subjects, which are going to be so important in the midterms to MAGA voters.
00:24:02.500 Before I let you go, James Blair is the political, is the deputy chief for politics.
00:24:08.920 Did he give that to Axier sort of the day?
00:24:11.260 Was that a trial balloon they were raising up to say no mass deportation to see what the feedback was?
00:24:20.020 Or was that something that they're dug in, that they only want to focus on the bad hombres and there won't be any other real actions taken on mass deportations, ma'am?
00:24:28.520 The White House has repeatedly responded to reports on this saying that they have not changed their immigration agenda.
00:24:33.580 So I think what we're seeing here is more of a shift in messaging emphasis, where James Blair told Republicans ahead of midterms that he thinks they'd be best suited to win in their districts by focusing on criminals rather than deporting every illegal immigrant.
00:24:51.040 Elizabeth Mitchell, where do people get you? Daily Signal's fantastic. Where do they get you? Social media, all of it, to get your writings and your thinking.
00:24:57.780 you can read my stories at dailysignal.org or follow me on x at vlizmitchell
00:25:04.240 thank you ma'am great reporting want to make sure everybody reads this because this is another fight
00:25:11.000 we got so rosemary what i'm going to go back what numbers are they looking at and showing the
00:25:18.420 president and the house speaker and things versus what you're showing do you have any idea because
00:25:23.940 there's obviously some gap here what is so important about what you've done and it's so
00:25:30.080 important about what dr jeffrey tucker did on the maha as you both went back to core issues you had
00:25:36.080 huge sample sizes of people that matter likely voters and the results on both were overwhelming
00:25:44.240 i mean some of these on on on um on uh tucker's were two-thirds one they're 80 some of yours
00:25:50.560 or numbers blow me away. So how can it be that gap? How is how is the White House,
00:25:57.820 who obviously have the president's back? What are they looking at that's different than what
00:26:02.980 you're looking at? Well, I think they're looking at, you know, the legacy media,
00:26:09.340 every headline from The Washington Post and The New York Times and and on and on is bad for
00:26:16.800 immigration enforcement. It's a sob story about the kid with the bunny ear hat that is completely
00:26:23.560 untrue. They've left out major facts, but that's what they're reporting. I think it was the CBS
00:26:29.620 story that said that 15% or something of the illegal aliens who've been arrested and put
00:26:37.300 into detention had violent criminal records. Okay, well, that's great, but it was actually 70%
00:26:43.860 that had criminal records. And we need to go beyond that. But I think if you're scared of
00:26:49.840 headlines like that, and I guess a lot of people read those headlines and think, well, this is too
00:26:57.180 far. But I can tell you from our polling, they don't believe them all and they don't think it's
00:27:02.040 too far. They understand that what the Biden administration did to America has to not only
00:27:07.680 be stopped, which the president has done, but it has to be reversed. And that is, you know,
00:27:14.500 at some point, Steve, the Republicans are going to have to choose between the donors and the voters
00:27:20.620 because they are diametrically opposed to each other on this issue. So are you going to go along
00:27:27.500 with cheap labor for the donors or are you going to do what the president promised and do what the
00:27:33.720 voters want. Okay, we got to bounce because I get to the war. But I'm going to bug you later
00:27:41.840 to get you on the show over the weekend because I want to tie what you're doing also to the war
00:27:46.340 aims. You can't look away from this thing anymore. You have to address what the quote unquote legal
00:27:52.120 immigration has done to this country to expose us in a time of war. Maybe the most dangerous front
00:27:58.000 that we have where do they go now for uh the immigration accountability project in your poll
00:28:04.180 ma'am go to iaproject.org for all of the polling information the entire poll is up there iaproject.org
00:28:12.380 we need your support to keep this work going and you can follow us on x at iaproject
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00:30:11.460 the trump administration is also downplaying the escalating crisis in the strait of hormuz
00:30:16.900 as iranian attacks choke the world's oil supply the president told excuse me told fox quote
00:30:24.040 these ships should go through the strait of hormuz and show some guts there's nothing to be afraid of
00:30:30.620 okay president trump is a field player everybody knows that so um he's thinking this through
00:30:38.640 gate uh bill gertz our number one reporter you've been covering the chinese communist party and the
00:30:45.780 threat the existential threat you've got an amazing piece up in the washington times as you
00:30:49.980 always do this about their nuclear storage capability but i gotta ask you first about the
00:30:55.320 breaking news today the amphibious ready group i guess the fleet marines out of i guess it's
00:31:02.120 yokohama the air base is yakuska but i think that base is actually at yokohama where the marines are
00:31:07.580 i think um the uh they're heading towards south china sea um straits of taiwan south china sea
00:31:16.280 Straits of Malacca pass our new strategic atoll at Diego Garcia, Indo-PACOM, all the way to North
00:31:25.900 Arabian Sea, Gulf of Amount, Persian Gulf. Is this a major escalation, sir, to take 5,000? I think the
00:31:33.160 Pentagon's saying 5,000. One of their ports is 2,500. But basically a Marine Ready Group with
00:31:40.780 the support ships to the region, sir? Yeah. This has always been my concern about this Iran
00:31:51.320 conflict, is that it will diminish military power in the Asia-Pacific, where we absolutely need it
00:31:58.080 to deter China. As well, there are also moving elements of the THAAD anti-missile system and
00:32:05.780 Patriot anti-missile systems from South Korea to the Middle East theater. Again, we're in a major
00:32:12.600 conflict in the Middle East, and I'm very concerned using up important precision-guided weapons and
00:32:20.000 systems and forces that we urgently need to maintain in the Asia-Pacific. We could see a
00:32:28.320 risk of China's Xi Jinping capitalizing on this heavy military focus on the Middle East
00:32:36.040 to take his action against Taiwan.
00:32:41.140 Well, let's start to you strategically.
00:32:42.900 I mean, we just found out yesterday, and this came with Scott Besson saying, well, the straits
00:32:48.040 are not actually, they're not mined because some flags are getting through.
00:32:52.700 We understand that China or the CCP flag is getting through.
00:32:55.320 I think it's 11 million barrels.
00:32:56.640 Now, I don't understand in a war aim why we're letting that happen and let the mullahs get cash to continue their war machine.
00:33:04.100 But she clearly is desperate to get the oil.
00:33:07.260 But geo strategically, I've been kind of shocked.
00:33:10.800 He's he's there. He's he's actually a more important ally to them than the Russians.
00:33:15.340 And we know the Russians have been doing at least the reporting, I think, has been pretty accurate about the Russians have been helping them with targeting.
00:33:22.480 At the same time, we are, because we're so desperate for this, we're laying the sanctions on already afloat, I think, Russian oil be sold to people.
00:33:31.140 Are you surprised at how cucked she has been both in Venezuela and now in Iran?
00:33:38.260 And you could argue that they're, what, half of his energy needs and have been major allies.
00:33:44.760 And he's essentially sat there, and whatever equipment they've given him hasn't particularly worked well, but she's not made any moves at all, sir?
00:33:52.480 Yeah. You know, I did a big piece for this in The Washington Times, looking at the impact of the Iran military operation on China, and it will have a major impact.
00:34:03.800 I believe that if they continue and see it through to the end, China is going to be in a major hurt when it comes to oil.
00:34:12.900 Ninety percent of Iran's oil is being sent to China, mostly on ghost flu that evade sanctions against Iran.
00:34:22.760 And they've been getting cheap oil.
00:34:24.720 China has no oil.
00:34:26.040 They're basically out of gas when it comes to oil, and they need it urgently for their modernization and their economy.
00:34:31.940 So one of the positive strategic elements of the Iran operation is that it's a dagger pointed at the heart of Beijing for its energy consumption, as well as its localized strategic efforts to expand the communist influence in the Middle East.
00:34:49.900 um walk me through because simultaneously we've had this situation and there were so many rumors
00:34:59.400 and so many the china experts had disagreements we've seen xi on this um uh restocking of the
00:35:08.720 senior command of the pla whether it's a purge or whether guys try to have a coup against him
00:35:13.940 he purged it but it's happening at a time that clearly with the united states on the
00:35:19.400 march militarily in latin america and part of that you can look at definitely trying to drive
00:35:24.680 the ccp out of there now in iran with their biggest ally uh given that we had taiwan on the
00:35:30.700 front burner it being cucked in uh in in iran in venezuela and this whole all these perturbations
00:35:39.660 around the military command the uniform military command of the pla and the people's liberation
00:35:44.720 Navy. Is Xi strategically in the worst position he could possibly be, or is he making moves that
00:35:50.600 we don't fully understand to make himself stronger? I think that the military purges
00:35:57.260 that have taken place within the People's Liberation Army are designed to strengthen
00:36:02.220 that force for military action in the coming years against Taiwan. That said, I believe Xi
00:36:08.980 Xi Jinping is deathly afraid of Donald Trump. They are very cautious when it comes to their
00:36:15.040 actions militarily. They'd prefer to take over Taiwan and next Taiwan without waging military
00:36:22.480 battle, defeating your enemy without firing a shot. The president is also headed to Beijing.
00:36:29.000 I think Beijing wants the meeting with President Trump. Again, they are very much afraid. They've
00:36:37.000 seen military action by the successful military action by the U.S. and Venezuela. And now they're
00:36:42.540 seeing a major military campaign against Iran. And they're clearly, I mean, the Indo-Pacific
00:36:49.300 commander, Admiral Sam Paparo, has said several times, and I've interviewed him, that he'd win
00:36:55.900 against China right now if they went to war. And I think the Chinese understand that. Now,
00:37:00.840 they're making great progress in developing their forces, specifically with hypersonic missiles,
00:37:06.400 drones uh asymmetric weapons that uh could have give them an advantage in a conflict with the u.s
00:37:13.280 but they're not there yet um i don't understand help me out because you're my mentor in this
00:37:24.240 um he's lost i i don't understand this meeting at all now i barely understood it before
00:37:35.080 but walk me through how he can have a she can have a debacle in venezuela and it was only trump
00:37:42.560 saying hey we're going to let him sell oil to the chinese that even allows him to get any venezuela
00:37:48.060 oil a basically a command by president trump to make that happen president trump has full ability
00:37:54.360 to stop these chinese flag or ghost ships coming out of the the the hormuz which we know in fact
00:38:00.760 it's happening so that our italian and french allies have been outed by the financial times
00:38:07.800 going directly to the iranians say hey i want the same deal the chinese got i got to get that oil
00:38:11.700 he's uh shown that the weapon systems they provide at least to date have not worked against
00:38:18.240 the american military how possibly particularly in the asian mind can president trump show up on
00:38:25.940 the 21st of April for a state visit isn't the moral equivalent of a conquering hero showing up
00:38:32.900 into Beijing and that she is actually the supplicant for all those years looked like the
00:38:38.120 Chinese were better place but now you've seen under Trump particularly on the tariff situation
00:38:42.520 economically the growth situation artificial intelligence where it's only the big tech bros
00:38:48.100 you know yammering to sell the chips to him and all this that and President Trump does allow it
00:38:53.360 But they wouldn't be there on every aspect of geo-economic, geo-strategic, geopolitical, military, all of it.
00:39:02.660 President Trump is the Mac Daddy.
00:39:04.980 How does that meeting take place?
00:39:06.640 I don't get it.
00:39:07.720 Isn't he a supplicant?
00:39:09.300 Doesn't he have to kowtow?
00:39:10.540 Or he is kowtowing to Donald Trump to allow President Trump to show up in Beijing on the 21st of April, sir?
00:39:17.920 Yeah, I followed this really closely.
00:39:19.840 And a flashback to October when the Chinese announced new restrictions on the export of rare earth minerals.
00:39:29.080 These are the key minerals that are needed for everything from fighter jets to automobiles.
00:39:34.820 That marked a major shift in President Trump's approach to China.
00:39:39.780 He stopped all kinds of critical rhetoric against the Chinese.
00:39:43.260 Now, if you notice, every time President Trump mentions China, it's about how great his friend Xi Jinping is and how he gets along with China.
00:39:52.780 This is a major strategic vulnerability for the United States that Trump is desperately trying to remedy.
00:40:01.340 And we're doing it as fast as we can.
00:40:03.840 We're trying to find alternatives for these rare earth minerals.
00:40:06.840 But China, going back to Deng Xiaoping in the 80s, has said that it's going to dominate the world in rare earth minerals like Saudi Arabia once dominated the world in oil.
00:40:19.680 And I think that that's an impact. So he's trying to come up with some kind of trade deal.
00:40:24.980 I think China wants it as well. They want to reduce the tariffs.
00:40:28.320 Their economy is taking some hits from the difficulties in dealing with their economy, which for the Chinese Communist Party is one of their top priorities.
00:40:39.260 So that's kind of how I see it.
00:40:40.840 The meeting in Beijing, I'm very fearful that Trump could make some kind of deal that could injure Taiwan, that could somehow lessen the U.S. ability to arm and defend Taiwan, help Taiwan defend itself against a future Chinese assault.
00:40:59.500 To me, the hottest spot in the world right now is not Iran.
00:41:02.680 It's the Taiwan Strait.
00:41:04.420 well so but okay i agree with you and i do have that fear although president trump has kind of
00:41:11.780 run the tables on these guys but i just want to go back to she how does she because he's clearly
00:41:17.340 worried about the military because that's why they've had this purge correct he wants his guys
00:41:22.440 in it's not just corruption and competence but there there has been rumors that some guys think
00:41:27.760 about making some moves he's purged all that he's not in the strongest position that he's been like
00:41:33.480 in years past the economy's got big problems they put out the lowest growth they have they're
00:41:37.260 talking about they're actually mentioning the d word deflation which is a whole different animal
00:41:42.600 how can he trump's a conquering hero right now right and and maybe you know they'll talk about
00:41:48.920 deals but trump walks in he's run the table on she everywhere how does she how did they handle
00:41:55.000 that and the and how they message it to the chinese people i understand they're only telling
00:42:00.020 them that the Americans are bogged down in Iran and everything's been a disaster. But the Chinese
00:42:04.460 people are smart. They get access to it. We got about a minute here, Bill. I'm going to hold you
00:42:08.160 through. Isn't just a huge loss of face for Xi? Actually, no, because the Chinese Communist Party
00:42:15.820 has a stranglehold on information. They are masters of information warfare, and they control
00:42:22.140 all information within the country. I say it's a totalitarian level. People like to say it's just
00:42:27.680 an authoritarian system. They have totalitarian control over information, so they can play the
00:42:34.960 narratives that will make them sound as if they are on the march. Their major propaganda theme
00:42:42.120 is that the U.S. is a declining power. That's obviously been undermined by President Trump
00:42:47.840 and that China is an advancing power. Again, that has not been debunked. They still consider
00:42:55.300 themselves in many parts of the world to be on the march ideologically, as well as economically,
00:43:01.640 politically, militarily, and others. It's a major challenge for the United States to deal with this
00:43:08.120 guy, Xi Jinping. We don't have time now, but I'll tell you what Xi Jinping thinks about the military,
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00:46:04.260 Bill Gertz, that you were going to tell us about the Chinese military?
00:46:09.500 Yeah. To understand Xi Jinping's mindset towards the People's Liberation Army, you have to go back
00:46:16.100 to 2012, right? As soon as he took power, became the Central Military Commission chairman. At that
00:46:23.000 time, they had a major crisis involving the regional party boss named Bo Xilai, who was
00:46:29.240 eventually ousted. But Bo Xilai actually bragged publicly that he had a group army under his
00:46:37.220 control, as opposed separate from the Beijing-controlled PLA. And this, again, was a major
00:46:45.180 scandal that unfolded. They put Bo Xilai in prison. His deputy tried to defect to the
00:46:51.160 U.S. consulate in Sichuan. They had a major standoff, military forces standing off. Bo Xilai's
00:46:58.080 security forces versus Beijing's forces. This had a major impact on Xi Jinping and his
00:47:05.420 control of the military. What President Trump doesn't really understand is that this system
00:47:12.100 in China is motivated by one thing, control of power and keeping the Chinese Communist Party
00:47:18.840 in power. It's not about China's economy. It's not even about China taking over the world as
00:47:25.580 much as it is about China maintaining its grip on power. Again, this is a totalitarian system that
00:47:32.360 has unbelievable technology that is used to keep control and put anybody that has any opposition
00:47:39.920 to the party in prison or worse, have them executed. So this is a major motivating factor
00:47:47.640 for Xi Jinping. And it's vital that we understand that this, you know, it was Carville who said,
00:47:53.020 it's the economy, stupid. I say it's the ideology. This is what motivates the Chinese. And unless we
00:47:59.200 attack that ideology and defeat that ideology, we'll never mitigate the massive threat posed by
00:48:05.160 communist China. Bill Gertz, you're saying the meeting is going to be on. I'm going to have you
00:48:11.100 back on here to drill down on that more, plus this current article you got up about their nuclear
00:48:14.780 storage. Where do people go and get you? You've still written the definitive book in this. You're
00:48:20.220 still the dean of the china uh the old china hands reporting on this in washington dc where do people
00:48:26.860 go for the washington times and everything else you got washington times website where my stories
00:48:31.420 are i also have a website thegertzfile.com and on x i'm at bill gertz
00:48:39.180 gertrude the best you're my mentor in this as captain finnell says we keep the main thing the
00:48:44.780 main thing bill gertz thank you so much brother amazing insights when bill gertz says the meeting
00:48:52.140 is going to take place that means the meeting is going to take place i think bill gertz is right
00:48:55.580 i'm kind of shocked i don't know how she i don't know how she takes the loss of face because trump
00:49:01.760 right now he walks in there like a conquering hero and um i know they want a trade deal he and
00:49:08.420 secretary besant i think we get the trade deal on our terms because i think the ccp is really
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