On this episode of the War Room, Stephen Kamb and his co-hosts discuss the latest in the Iran situation, including the White House press briefing that was held prior to President Trump's lunch with his daughter and son-in-law, Jared Kushner. They also discuss the situation with Iran and how the Middle Eastern oil embargo is hurting the world economy.
00:06:52.340And to be brutally frank, it ain't our fight.
00:06:55.820You know, keeping the Red Sea open with the thing is fine.
00:06:58.180But this is what I argued with when the last summer, when we were there taking incoming from the Hooties, Captain, where is the Royal Navy?
00:08:00.620If we have 10x oil resources here in the hemispheric defense of President Trump's new strategy, shouldn't we be focused on the Arctic and Greenland and Latin America and sweeping the Chinese Communist Party out of the Caribbean and not wasting our blood and our treasure over in another Middle Eastern war, sir?
00:08:26.160I spent four and a half months in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in 1994. I've deployed to the Gulf. But the second half of my career was in the Pacific for almost 20 years. And I was the guy that was banging the drum saying, how come we're stuck over there? So I want us to get out of there. But right now we're in the middle of this fight. And Eric said, we have to pound them into the dirt.
00:08:47.240I think we can do it in a way that we don't kill innocent civilians and violate the law of armed conflict.
00:08:53.760That's not what we're about as Americans, but we can do what he said.
00:08:57.260I think that's the president's plan. We have to stay steady on the wheel.
00:09:02.140I know there's flack coming at us from the press every day on every special thing, but we have to keep doing what we said we're going to do.
00:09:09.920We have a targeting plan. We have a strategy. Those guys that do targeting work.
00:09:14.840I was a targeteer. They have good intelligence. Yeah, mistakes happen, but they know how to
00:09:21.700rheostat this to make sure that we declaw and defang the Iranian regime and put max pressure
00:09:28.700onto them to where they're either going to collapse or their people are going to throw them out.
00:09:33.520I think that's the president's plan. It's a gamble. I got it, but we're in it. We got to keep going.
00:09:39.000then we can get out and not go back that's the goal if you're if you're in it you got to have
00:09:45.480victory and unfortunately we're in it for every reason we argue about how we got here later uh
00:09:49.960captain finnell and also scott best i think told us which we've been arguing for i don't think
00:09:54.360there's going to be a state visit in april uh to china i think that's uh logistic reasons or
00:10:00.320as you've recommended call them out because they're actually giving intelligence to our
00:10:04.960enemies in uh in iran so captain finnell look forward to talking to you after the show
00:10:09.380seeing you back here tomorrow the next day captain james for now there's another fight
00:10:15.000do i have luke okay there's another fight going on against the concentration of economic power
00:10:22.200in this country the company is live nation luke goldstein from the lever joins us luke thank you
00:10:28.120very much can you explain because i've been very upset i think this is one of the most rapacious
00:10:32.220companies out there in the entertainment industry it is uh it is a conglomerate that should be
00:10:39.000broken up i don't think there's any question about this there was this kind of competition
00:10:42.380it was in trial then the the government uh the doj i think came to some settlement with them
00:10:48.680that didn't seem like much of a settlement but the state attorney generals are so outraged
00:10:52.780some of them that they continues on and i think a judge on friday said hey the trial is going to
00:10:58.080get back up on Monday and we're going to roll? Can you walk through all of it, sir?
00:11:03.380Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me on. I'm going to try to channel my inner Kid Rock here
00:11:07.780as much as I can. So yeah, the state AGs are continuing this case and they're in court right
00:11:14.820now actually restarting the trial. But I think just to walk us back a few steps here, the place
00:11:20.800to start, I think, really is this trove of court documents that were released last week. And what
00:11:27.220those court documents showed, which Live Nation tried really hard to keep under seal and the judge
00:11:31.960ordered to be released. They're private chat logs of Ticketmaster Live Nation executives who are
00:11:39.020talking amongst themselves about the way that they set prices and fees on fans for live entertainment
00:11:46.860shows at their venues. And the language they use, I think, here is pretty revealing. They say,
00:11:51.900hey, these are direct quotes, that we gouge them on prices.
00:16:24.680man okay why you might ask in a time of war when we have uh american sailors airmen marines
00:16:35.180army personnel in harm's way in a very dangerous part of the world that i would argue maybe we
00:16:40.920shouldn't be over but that's the topic for a different day why are we worried about music
00:16:45.840concerts and entertainment here's the reason this is emblematic of monopolistic power in this
00:16:52.460country. As I've said many, many times during the Obama administration, that's when the oligarchs
00:16:57.760of really social media and the tech bros you see today were really created. It was supposed to be
00:17:03.140the most progressive administration in history, what they allowed to happen. And we are supposed
00:17:08.760to be in the business of deconstructing that monopolistic power. And guess what? It's maybe
00:17:14.360not going totally as planned. That's why Live Nation is so important. Live Nation cuts to the
00:17:19.880heart of what monopolistic power uh entails now their original plan was to have uh you know
00:17:26.620vertical integration then they had a merger with ticket master and they really had vertical
00:17:31.020integration soup to nuts so luke here's you did a good job explaining how how we got here but the
00:17:37.840justice department did come up they went to trial the justice department which happens in the trial
00:17:42.500came back and said hey look we reached a settlement uh is that settlement not good enough
00:17:47.900for people that are neo-Brandecians like myself that believe this connection of private and state
00:17:55.460power is kind of a takeoff on the Chinese Communist Party's business model and not the
00:18:02.360entrepreneurial finance and capitalism of the United States, sir? Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
00:18:08.560I think there's a really strong case here that the settlement was not nearly strong enough.
00:18:13.020And that also is why a whole collection of state attorney generals from California to Texas, Ken Paxton, are continuing this case in court right now.
00:18:23.440So here's what happened last week. As you mentioned, the trial had already started. It was ongoing for a week.
00:18:29.520And at the very end of that week is when the reporting indicates there was a settlement that that was reached.
00:18:36.960And I was actually in court on Monday when the news broke about this. And it was kind of pandemonium in in the courthouse. I usually try to stay away from from the courts. But, you know, I was there that day. Right.
00:18:50.540And so the DOJ and Live Nation come into court and they hand in the settlement terms to the judge and the judge looks at the date and the date on those settlement terms had been on the Friday of the prior week when they were still in court arguing their case.
00:19:07.600And it had meetings with the judge and there was no settlement deal that had been mentioned at the time.
00:19:12.440And the judge is irate. He reprimands both sides. And he asked the DOJ counsel how this happened.
00:19:19.460And the DOJ counsel says to the judge, has to say in open court, I'm seeing these settlement terms for the first time as as you are.
00:19:27.460So what does that tell us? You know, this is the counsel who knows the case intimately the best.
00:19:33.240He was not part of putting together that settlement package.
00:19:37.060It was done by the higher ups at DOJ, and it was also done by members of the White House, as reporting has has indicated.
00:19:44.360And, you know, I think this is one aspect that would kind of undermine the case that this is really the best settlement deal.
00:19:51.220It's two hundred eighty million dollars in damages that Live Nation has to pay.
00:19:55.700That may sound like a lot of money. That's equivalent to the amount of revenue that the company brings in in less than a week.
00:20:02.520OK, so, I mean, a drop in the bucket might be generous as a way of describing it.
00:20:06.460There's a whole set of other kinds of restrictions are called behavioral remedies and antitrust speak that the company has to follow pretty much as a condition for being able to keep on and maintain this monopoly that they hold.
00:20:21.100And it's but the target, the target has been the target has been for the target that the target has been from the beginning to disaggregate Ticketmaster from the venues.
00:20:52.340And, you know, there's cosmetically some attempts in this settlement to try to do that.
00:20:56.500There's sort of a cap on some of the fees they can charge.
00:21:00.720You know, they have to, the Live Nation has to sell off some of the venues they control.
00:21:04.180There's efforts to try to open up competition. But again, I think the reason to one, you know, kind of argue that this is not adequate and that it may not even be followed is that it is basically identical in many ways to the aims of previous consent decrees that the government has imposed on Live Nation and allowed it to keep this monopoly.
00:21:23.580and they have not been adequate at all. Live Nation keeps, you know, completely violating
00:21:29.000these as the government has tried to update these consent decrees that go back to the
00:21:34.200Obama administration. And, you know, I think you have to look here at the political influence
00:21:38.780operation that Live Nation has run for the past year. And it culminated in the ousting of Gail
00:21:44.700Slater, who was the previous antitrust chief at the Department of Justice. And she was much more
00:21:51.380keen on either continuing this case or it seems at least pushing for a stronger settlement. And
00:21:57.860she was pushed aside. And I think the fact that this Justice Department has now settled this case
00:22:02.940really kind of vindicates many of the critics of this department administration that they are
00:22:09.340amenable to outside corporate influence. But the state AGs led by Paxson, California,
00:22:15.060got both blue states and red states. The judges said, OK, we're going to go forward with this
00:22:20.040trial. The trial is not off. The state AGs are basically going to be at the tip of this, not
00:22:24.600the Justice Department. Yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely right. Now, I mean, I'm not going to
00:22:29.700lie here. You know, there's definitely downsides of this. The state AGs have hired, you know,
00:22:34.620someone who's described as one of the top antitrust litigators. Right. But the drawback of
00:22:39.880state AGs is there, you know, they don't have quite as much staff to really beef up the case
00:22:45.440as the Department of Justice does, which is really well financed. But they're continuing
00:22:49.700the case um as was planned during the whole first week we heard from a number of um owners of venues
00:22:57.440about the ways that live nation tried to retaliate against them if they ever tried to get a better
00:23:02.040deal with a competitor ticket company live nation said you don't want to do this okay our artists
00:23:07.820you know billy eilish whoever they represent they're not going to your venues anymore okay
00:23:13.240it's a total shakedown no i think i think it's i think it's well known that the live nation are
00:23:20.180gangsters right the way they do they wait their enforcement techniques are not subtle look we
00:23:25.960got to bounce where do people i want people to follow your reporting on this and we'll have you
00:23:30.360back on because it's strong interest in this my interest in this is that we ought to be doing this
00:23:36.020across many many industries and let's just start with this part of the entertainment industry and
00:23:40.620break these companies up uh what they've done is uh and what obama's doj uh in in approving many of
00:23:47.120the social media oligarchs and this was outrageous so where do they go luke to follow you yeah you
00:23:53.760can find me on x uh luke w goldstein uh and my reporting is at lever independent news outlet
00:23:59.640we do investigative reporting thanks for having me on thank you sir look forward to following you
00:24:05.480on this case ken paxton and a host of other state attorney generals i'll take it on the shoulders
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00:33:37.980the FBI are saying they don't have in their
00:33:40.340possession that should be evidence is can you give us any clarity on that is that too much
00:33:45.440is that too behind closed doors still right now no i mean i i just know that there have been
00:33:50.820there have been public filings because the clerk said that they there were so many exact here the
00:33:57.160exact number of boxes but when they went to get the boxes and when they retrieved uh the box seized
00:34:03.120all of the boxes that they are missing about a little over i think over 50 boxes of records that
00:34:09.860are supposed to be there and now they're trying to sort out were they ever there was it a miscount
00:34:14.900i mean you never know with fulton county it's just a colossal uh nightmare because they don't
00:34:20.680do things the way you're supposed to aren't how how how close how close is ross is rossensberger
00:34:26.740agreed he's been subpoenaed just i think for the audience how soon are we going to have the georgia
00:34:33.140uh board of elections which we essentially control take over fulton county could you give
00:34:39.060us any clarity on that? Oh, gosh, we're so far away from that, Steve. The State Board of Elections
00:34:45.540taking over Fulton County, you know, one of the things that has happened is that the,
00:34:50.480you know, the judge did order in December that the State Board of Elections was entitled to
00:34:56.260receive all the ballots and all the materials. And then the FBI came in and subpoenaed with the
00:35:02.980search warrant and seized all of them. So the State Board of Elections still hasn't gotten
00:35:07.220any of the records that the judge said the board was entitled to receive.
00:35:12.300So I think we're pretty far away from a moment when there would be any kind of resolution that
00:35:17.400would put Fulton County under the supervision of the State Board of Elections. That's pretty far
00:35:21.960down the road. We still remember we're now in mediation, if you can believe that, between
00:35:28.960Fulton County, the court clerk, and the Department of Justice. Because Fulton County
00:35:35.100and the commissioners and now the court court clerk have filed suit that's the suit with
00:35:40.540abby lowell and normison and all of them demanding that all of the things that were all the materials
00:35:46.180and ballots that were seized in january be returned and they're in mediation a former
00:35:53.120retired georgia supreme court justice has been named a mediator and now they're supposed to be
00:35:58.340mediating whether or not anything's going to be returned. And if so, whether or not the Department
00:36:05.300of Justice can retain copies. The one big thing that we have to worry about is we want all of
00:36:12.060the originals of the absentee ballots. That's a big concern because that's the only way we're
00:36:18.120going to know about the pristine ballots that were supposedly absentee ballots, but which were
00:36:23.480never folded jenny beth and i kept hearing those uh complaints during 2020 following the election
00:36:30.240and if it's not been folded it's not it's not an absentee ballot under the law in georgia and
00:36:35.220there are many thousands of course it's not that's so jenny beth first things first we've got parallel
00:36:42.320paths we've got maricopa county now we've got fulton county we're hopefully getting to the
00:36:47.640to the heart of it of course a huge article in politico today that says anybody that mentioned
00:36:51.940This is from Republican establishment. Anybody that mentions the 2020 election is just looking backwards and it's going to hurt our chances in the midterms.
00:36:59.140Nothing could be farther from the truth. But we're coming to a seminal moment of this movement, the direction of the country.
00:37:06.100That's this fight over the Save America Act. Now, I understand it's been moved to Wednesday now because of logistics reasons.
00:37:12.200i'm told just go through what you did and you and clita talked over the weekend and we get clita
00:37:18.960back in a second about exactly what we're going to do about making sure that this audience and
00:37:24.900all grassroots members and all of the trump mega base are making sure their voices is heard as we
00:37:31.580go through this historic uh evolution uh to uh to uh attempt to pass the save america act and make
00:37:40.720it into law and have President Trump sign it, ma'am? Okay, so this is important. When it comes
00:37:46.540to calls to action, sometimes you have to give carrots to the politicians, and sometimes you
00:37:52.280have to give figurative sticks to them. And I learned this from Cleta back in 2010. And right
00:37:59.940now, Senator Thune is doing what we have asked. And the Republicans, if they actually all do what
00:38:09.060we think they're going to do and vote to bring this bill to the floor, to the motion to proceed
00:38:14.380to bring it to the floor. That's doing what we've been asking for the last several weeks.
00:38:19.020And so if that happens and it looks like it's going to, once the debate opens, we've got to
00:38:25.360make sure that we are thanking the Republican side, thanking them for bringing it to the floor
00:38:30.060and doing everything we can to keep them talking about the bill and convince them that we want it
00:38:36.660to pass in final passage, then the figurative sticks have to change from being focused on
00:38:43.140Republicans not doing what we want over to the Democrat side and urging the Democrats to do what
00:38:49.22065 percent of Americans want, which is to pass the Save America Act. 84 percent of Americans want
00:38:55.860only Americans voting, American citizens voting in American elections. And we've got to make sure
00:39:02.540that they understand that if they vote against this bill, they are voting against the not just
00:39:08.620majority, but super majority of the citizens in this country and the super majority of the
00:39:14.720constituency that they represent. So our figurative sticks have to be focused on the
00:39:20.920Democrat side. And then on the Republican side, we just have to keep them debating the bill and
00:39:27.740keep them working to try to get Democrats on board with us. So this would not be a standing
00:39:35.860filibuster right now, but as you see it, this is going to be a several-week process, and we're
00:39:40.600going to have to have both urgency and we're going to have to have duration here, ma'am?
00:39:46.080That's right. It's urgency and duration, and hopefully it lasts that long. That's definitely
00:39:52.180what we want though i think the longer that it goes on the better it is for the if it just happens
00:39:59.360in a day and it's done no one will even know that it happened especially in this age of uh viral
00:40:06.140things happening on tiktok every five seconds so it takes a while for a sustained debate to
00:40:13.100to permeate the american consciousness for the media to talk about it for americans to understand
00:40:18.560what's actually happening on Capitol Hill. So it needs to last for a while. Now, it is possible
00:40:25.760in the middle of this that they could temporarily close it and essentially set it aside if there is
00:40:33.760a deal that is worked out with DHS funding and bring that up and get DHS funded and then go back
00:40:42.100to and reopen the Save America Act. So if that happens, people should not be upset. We just need
00:40:49.240to be prepared that that could happen. And then we have to make sure it opens back, which I think
00:40:54.760that it will. But it's going to be, it should be the rest of this week. It should go into next week.
00:41:00.100And then they hit a recess period. So we'll see how far it goes after next week. But how far it
00:41:07.380goes and how determined the republicans are depends on how active and vocal we are in calling
00:41:14.320their offices and thanking them and making sure that they actually get this bill passed
00:41:19.320okay the president may step out for this press conference and he's saying give i'm gonna keep
00:41:24.800you on but in case we gotta jump give your action center right now where do they go to get uh the
00:41:30.080script and all the different possibilities of this and more information jenny beth go to
00:41:35.500tpartypatriots.org, tpartypatriots.org. And also you can follow me on all the socials,
00:41:42.740Jenny Beth M. And I'll put the script in my X feed after I finish with you, Steve.
00:41:49.580Okay, stick around. Cleta, it's blown up on Twitter about Thune has moved this to Wednesday
00:42:00.360to ensure that Cornyn, I guess, is locked in for the U.S. Senate. Can you just walk us through
00:42:04.980what's actually happening well my understanding uh going back to saturday was that um they were
00:42:13.460shooting to have this bill on the floor uh tomorrow for them to take the floor tomorrow
00:42:19.060with it one of the things that they've done is that they have gone back to the white house you
00:42:24.460know the president has been pretty insistent upon adding some things to the bill um that came over
00:42:29.780from the House, which creates another set of requirements. It couldn't just pass the Senate
00:42:36.860and go back and go directly to the president's desk. And so in adding those things, the president
00:42:43.440has wanted, which is to address the problem of universal vote by mail. And also, you know, he
00:42:49.540wants to get rid of transgender surgeries on minors, and he wants to get rid of men and women's
00:42:54.740sports so they're they've agreed to put those in and so it's just taking some time it always takes
00:43:00.760a little bit longer get all these things drafted than um then you think it's going to take and
00:43:07.700so i i i was told on saturday that it could take until but hang over a second you're breaking some
00:43:15.120news here hang on you're you're breaking some news because i've been a guy keeps saying hey
00:43:20.200the president and i love what he wants to put in but it's not in the house bill so it's going to
00:43:23.860make this even more cumbersome you're saying the white house dug in and the senate's actually
00:43:28.500drafting language so what we will be debating we'll have our restrictions on mail-in ballots
00:43:34.540which i think is smart very smart it has to be done because i'm not a machine guy i'm a mail-in
00:43:40.120ballot is how they stole it you're also saying he's going to add the no men and women's sports
00:43:45.260and the transgender surgeries are going to be in the senate side the white house told them that
00:43:51.260they have to have that i think the president has been very adamant and very vocal and very public
00:43:56.540about that so um you know and he's not deviated from that so i think that they're they're realizing
00:44:03.120that he's got them he's got the microphone and the microphone and that they need to try to do
00:44:08.160that so my understanding is that that's what they're working on is negotiating all that with
00:44:11.860the white house um and i thought that it might cost us some uh yes votes on the bill but i'm
00:44:48.900yet to what we call the talking filibuster just tell the audience as you best see it and i'll get
00:44:55.440jenny beth back in here a second as you best see it what is actually going to be the process
00:45:00.980that thune and with mike lee's guidance we're going to start off with on wednesday
00:45:05.980my understanding is that senator then will recognize senator lee senator lee will describe
00:45:13.760the bill, Senator Thune will then offer a series of motions that honestly, they're just indecipherable
00:45:20.880to me as a non, I'm not a Senate rules guru. Lord, I don't, I hope I don't know. I already
00:45:27.200have learned too much about the Senate rules to any sane person would want to know. But that then
00:45:33.320Senator Thune will offer a series of procedural motions that will put the bill on the floor
00:45:39.840of the senate with a simple majority vote to proceed and that then they will be on the bill
00:45:46.160they will there will be amendments offered there will be debate there will be discussion
00:45:50.020and as jenny best said they may have to go off the bill and then come back to it why they don't
00:45:57.700want to call that a filibuster i don't know but apparently this is something that they've really
00:46:03.560are now looking to senator lee and his legislative director who's quite terrific and looking to them
00:46:09.740for guidance. I have to tell everybody, one of the things that's really important to remember
00:46:13.760is that this is a sea change from where John Thune was last Tuesday. Last Tuesday, he announced to
00:46:19.520the conference, and he told the press, he was just kind of done with this. We were all paid
00:46:24.800influencers, and he wasn't paying any attention. And honestly, what happened over the ensuing 24
00:46:31.600hours was beautiful to behold, because people all over the country hammered the United States
00:46:38.180Senate. They called, they wrote emails, they called their state offices. People just organically
00:46:43.260were outraged, absolutely outraged. And within 24 hours, they were saying, oh, well, maybe we
00:46:50.520better pay attention to this. And the problem, here's the problem. They've never used the
00:46:55.720filibuster in this way. Not in decades, not since 1964 when the Civil Rights Act passed. So they're
00:47:03.060not used to legislating. I want to say that again, the United States Senate is not used to
00:47:07.460legislating. Nothing ever goes to the floor unless there's an agreement in advance. They know exactly
00:47:12.700what's going to happen. And so this is uncharted territory for anyone who's currently serving in
00:47:17.420the United States Senate. So, you know, if I had been in the Senate, I would have started making
00:47:21.820some changes to overcome some rulings of the parliamentarian that exist. These rulings make
00:47:28.580it impossible to actually have the filibuster and have it end. That's what they couldn't figure out
00:47:33.240is if you start how do you end it so without uh how do you get to the at the end of the filibuster
00:47:39.080so i think that that's what they're trying to do is avoid getting into a circumstance where that
00:47:44.060they can't get out of without 60 votes and that's what they're trying to do it's not easy but you
00:47:49.760know these people should have done something about these rules a long time ago but they didn't want
00:47:55.640to because this is how they keep control jenny beth is this just because you've been at this a
00:48:01.480while and i know a lot of the audience members are ready to go man the ramparts and and have you
00:48:06.880know and have president trump's back and say hey this absolutely got to get done president trump
00:48:10.400said over and over and over again we're not going to win the midterms unless you pass this is this
00:48:15.280performative or do you in your professional opinion see a way that this is more than just getting
00:48:22.860the cornyns and the thunes off the hook of president trump's wrath and that we could actually
00:48:29.260get the save act president trump's version of it passed in the senate and sent back to the house
00:48:34.720uh for uh for passage and then eventually at some point in time get it on president trump's desk
00:48:40.160for signing and then let all the lawsuits take place that there will be lawsuits this will be
00:48:44.820if this passes trump signs it we'll be in the supreme court on this one
00:48:50.220sometime uh before their session ends at the end of june ma'am
00:48:54.620um let's talk about those lawsuits really quickly remember in 2020 i know the establishment doesn't
00:49:01.640want us talking about 2020 but remember in 2020 everything just changed right on a dime because
00:49:07.880of covid and they expanded all the ballots and we're mailing them out to everyone on the voter
00:49:13.440rolls and they did that just just completely just so quickly if they can do that quickly
00:49:20.300they can certainly work to make sure that only American citizens are voting and that we have
00:49:25.760voter ID quickly. And it shouldn't be unconstitutional because we just saw five,
00:49:31.440six years ago that you could change elections in the middle of voting. In 2020, during the
00:49:39.260presidential preference primary, I had already voted. And then they closed that and they reopened
00:49:46.480it during the regular primary in Georgia. And I wound up not having that again on my ballot because
00:49:52.020I had already voted. But if they can do that in the middle of an election, they certainly can make
00:49:56.900sure only American citizens are voting. Do I think it is performative? I think it depends on how this
00:50:03.720process ends. And no one can answer exactly how it ends. So here's the way that I keep thinking of
00:50:10.660Remember back when we were challenging McCarthy to become Speaker, and then ultimately also we changed Speakers and we have Speaker Mike Johnson now.
00:50:22.100During the middle of all of that debate in January of 2022, we didn't know exactly how that was going to end.
00:50:32.220We didn't know exactly how it would end.
00:50:34.400And when they removed McCarthy and we wound up with Speaker Johnson, we also didn't know how that was going to end, but we knew it would end.
00:50:43.620What we're doing right now is uncharted for most, for the senators who are in the Senate right now, not in terms of American history, but for the ones who are in there right now.
00:50:54.700And so it's a little bit different than what we've seen before.
00:50:57.500If it requires 60 votes to end the debate, then we have to get Democrats on our side.
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