00:01:13.880She had no idea that the 81-year-old man who lived there had just received a series of
00:01:18.420phone calls from scammers who had threatened to kill him if he did not give the woman coming to
00:01:24.020his house twelve thousand dollars in cash he killed the lady so she's dead he now has a life sentence
00:01:31.780are you aware of any action or investigation that the justice department has taken to pursue justice
00:01:38.020to bring the scammers and put them and make them pay for what they did let me take it
00:01:44.900it thursday 19 march year of our lord 2026 um we're going to this morning be just as packed
00:01:53.920as we were yesterday with uh live events uh tulsi gabbard uh john ratcliffe and cash patel
00:02:00.200before the um house intelligence and they are getting um and tulsi's getting a little bit lit
00:02:05.840up we've got some polls from that because this started earlier we're also going to dip in and
00:02:11.640out of the live coverage also the prime minister of japan at 11 o'clock will be at the white house
00:02:16.580it looks like if it starts on time the president is going to meet with her for a few minutes
00:02:23.140privately and then bring the press in uh for a bilat and then take questions um
00:02:29.440my understanding is that she's got you know real issues and so it may be later anyway we're going
00:02:35.400to be juggling but we've got a full absolute packed agenda day including a cold open that
00:02:40.800we're going to do in the b block mike davis is going to join me here uh momentarily and on top
00:02:46.980of that uh pete hexeth and uh general kane had a um had a um a press conference this morning
00:02:55.660a press briefing uh our own david zier got a good question in real america's voice but there
00:03:00.880were some really terrific questions uh asked and some terrific information overnight i don't know
00:03:06.880if we've got the tweet i mean we've got the true social of the president this is going to get back
00:03:11.880to an issue that we're going to delve into this morning and also this afternoon when i think we'll
00:03:18.040have more time there's an incident yesterday in which uh there's this massive gas field natural
00:03:25.980gas in fact catars is kind of unique i think among the gulf emirates is that they're not
00:03:32.640really that much oil it's natural gas i think they're the largest in the world it's where
00:03:37.400their wealth derives from and their power derives from their power derives from their wealth
00:03:41.640it's a joint field kind of co-managed i think really managed more than them but in some part
00:03:47.300of in joint ownership with the iranians um part of that was hit yesterday uh by the israelis
00:03:55.000and president trump went off we get that true social up and put it up uh president trump
00:04:02.060went off the iranians hit back mike davis is up we get to mike in a second um then the iranians
00:04:09.680hit back and the president went off on true social uh about this and it can't happen again
00:04:15.280it did expand gas through the roof oil i think went to 119 dollars a barrel i'm gonna get bowling
00:04:21.760on here later we'll fit it in we'll figure out somehow when he's available to fit in
00:04:24.880also in addition yesterday we talked to you about the pipeline across saudi arabia going to red
00:04:30.700You see, that was hit. As we told you, in all likelihood, they're going to start targeting this because this is the one way the Arabs, the Saudis have to get around the Strait of Hormuz.
00:04:41.800More developments on this expeditionary force.
00:04:44.660It looks like it's coming together potentially to give the president of the United States another arrow in the quiver to be able to take Karg Island and maybe part of some coastal facilities inside the Persian Gulf near the Strait of Hormuz.
00:04:59.640anywhere we get to all that including tulsi's uh testimony um quite as heated today as it was
00:05:06.540yesterday when she's in front of the senate uh right now i've got is mike davis with me
00:05:11.140mike so i want to go through and if we've got the clip from mullins do we have that clip that
00:05:16.420short clip is that ready to go it's not ready to go thank you um mike davis we have a host of
00:05:24.180things to go through uh the one i want to talk about is that we the the the uh save america act
00:05:30.860now today the senate's coming back at noon we covered it last night uh on our six o'clock show
00:05:37.020and we streamed it until its conclusion and mike lee came on the floor but the second part of that
00:05:42.880pivoted away because the democrats just don't have a great answer for this chuck schumer then
00:05:48.200goes to the sticks and says yeah of course we support voter id they pivoted in about the six
00:05:53.960o'clock hour to talk about war powers i mean they totally changed the conversation and then cotton
00:05:59.600and lindsey had to come down and you had a big you know a big throwdown on war powers they put
00:06:04.880up another what quorum vote and they lost i think um you know 53 47 wasn't even close uh can you
00:06:13.380just walk us through what you think the strategy is right now because they're going to reconvene
00:06:17.100at noon they're supposed to talk about save america do you just walk me through your understanding of
00:06:21.440where we are in this? Save Act has the support of over 80 percent of Americans, including a
00:06:30.020supermajority of Democrats and even a supermajority of minorities, because it is commonsensical that
00:06:37.820you have to have an ID to vote like you do in just about every other civilized country around
00:06:44.240the world. It's commonsensical that you don't have foreign invaders, illegal aliens and other
00:06:50.360foreigners voting in your elections. We want Americans to decide American elections, and we
00:06:57.920need to have that verified with voter ID. The Democrats have pretended that the voter ID is
00:07:05.440somehow racist because apparently, according to the Democrats, Black Americans don't have the
00:07:11.280wherewithal to get an ID, and they also think voter ID, or they pretend voter ID is sexist
00:07:18.120because apparently married women are too stupid to change their name and get an ID like everyone
00:07:24.200else, according to the Democrats' theory. This is collapsing on the Democrats, as we saw
00:07:29.520with Chuck Schumer, the Senate Democrat leader, who is pivoting rapidly because he sees the poll
00:07:35.960numbers and the pressure, including from the war room posse, lighting up these Senate offices
00:07:42.240through our action center. One of the reasons, Mike, help me out here,
00:07:47.360The reason is that their arguments, because we've been in this now for two days, their arguments are very scattered, very weak.
00:07:55.600I mean, some people are watching this, they're putting the clips out, and the Democrats are just not, you know, the thing about 50 percent of women are going to not be able to vote.
00:08:04.640They're not sticking the landing on anything.
00:08:06.440Is that why Schumer is now saying, of course, we support voter ID?
00:08:10.900Of course, here's the real reason the Democrats are fighting like hell to stop the passage of the SAVE Act that has the support of 80 percent of Americans, including a supermajority of Democrats and even a supermajority of minorities, because Democrat politicians know that illegal aliens are illegally voting in our elections.
00:08:31.600And the Democrats are increasingly reliant on the illegal alien vote or the foreigner vote, like we saw in New York City with Mondami. If the illegals are not voting, why are the Democrats so concerned about voter ID? Why are they so concerned about proof of citizenship when you register to vote?
00:08:54.820these are common sense proposals in this SAVE Act. I want to commend senators like Mike Lee.
00:09:02.100He has been the tip of the spear on this. There's also been other senators like Eric Schmidt in
00:09:07.020Missouri, but these guys are warriors. One of my good friends is Rachel Bovard at the
00:09:12.060Conservative Partnership Institute, and she is an expert on Senate procedure. And I talked to her
00:09:19.500last night, and I would strongly encourage Senate Republicans to lean in and lean in strongly. We do
00:09:27.220not need 60 votes to pass legislation in the Senate. That is a myth. It takes 60 votes to
00:09:36.180short-circuit debate in the Senate, so to file for closure, to invoke closure, to short-circuit
00:09:43.320unlimited debate in the Senate. But if you just force these Senate Democrats to stand on their
00:09:49.880feet and debate, they're going to wear out. And we have 80% of Americans behind the passage of
00:09:57.300the SAVE Act. So let's not play any games. They're building what's called the tree in the
00:10:03.940Senate. Let's build that tree with real amendments that's going to ultimately lead to the debates
00:10:10.540and passage of the Save Act and not bright, shiny Christmas ornaments that are a distraction. Keep
00:10:16.960your eye on the prize, which is the passage of the Save Act. The Democrats are going to cave.
00:10:23.880It has 80 percent support of Americans, including a supermajority of the Democrats and minorities.
00:10:29.100The Democrats will cave on this. We're already starting to see Schumer caved by saying after
00:10:34.860opposing voter ID for many, many, many years, all of a sudden the Democrats pretend like they support
00:10:40.260for voter ID. The political pressure is working.
00:10:46.920Perfect. Okay, let me play. I want to play something for a hearing. I know you're pressed
00:10:50.000for time. We're pressed for time. Let's play this hearing, and I want your response, Mike Davis.
00:10:54.620A clothing at a local church when she came across agents in an unmarked car.
00:11:00.240Agents sideswiped her car. Three masked agents in camouflage stormed out, and one of them pulled
00:11:06.200out his gun and fired at her just at her moving vehicle hitting her five times thank you guys
00:11:13.300let's get the right clip anyway uh mike because of time uh constraints we had uh the witness uh
00:11:20.400yesterday uh mark wayne mullins trying to be there trying to become the head of dhs said was very
00:11:26.620blunt and said under his watch that he will require judicial warrants to go into any business or any
00:11:34.440home in which they're not actively chasing a criminal. This is 1 billion percent against
00:11:42.800any logic, anything that the Trump administration has ever stood for and anything the president
00:11:47.140of the United States has ever stood for. You're the guy that used to prep all the big time
00:11:55.980confirmations we had to do fell to you working for Grassley, particularly when it came to Supreme
00:12:02.200Court and others. Was that a slip of what Mark Wayne Mullins thinks, or is that signed off by
00:12:08.800the White House, sir? I presume that Senator Mullin must have been misspeaking there because
00:12:15.180that's not what the law is by any stretch of the imagination. He's not a lawyer, so it's
00:12:20.220understandable if he got tripped up a bit on the differences between a judicial warrant
00:12:25.860where you go to the Article III judge in a criminal proceeding with probable cause
00:12:32.220versus an ICE warrant where it's a civil proceeding to expel illegal aliens.
00:12:40.500It's civil in nature, not criminal in nature.
00:12:42.260So I presume he just got tripped up on the difference between a judicial warrant
00:12:46.620and an ICE warrant because that's just not what the law is.
00:12:50.000And if we actually require judicial warrants for immigration,
00:12:54.380there's no chance in hell we would be able to expel the tens of millions of illegal aliens
00:13:00.720who have flooded into America and are replacing American workers and American voters.
00:13:08.080So President Trump's broad electoral mandate is to secure our border and expel illegal aliens,
00:13:15.340starting with the worst of the worst like Trendy Aragua and MS-13.
00:13:19.440And you certainly don't need an Article III judicial warrant to do that.
00:13:24.380it would take us how many thousand years if there's president trump says 25 i think war rooms
00:13:32.160at like 20 or 15 to 20 but let's say there's millions and millions and millions real quickly
00:13:37.340i'm holding through the break i got another question but how many decades would it take us
00:13:41.820if we had to have judicial warrants and also the system would totally clog up you couldn't move
00:13:46.400anything else it would be it'd be beyond a nightmare how can this be a slip-up how can this
00:13:51.960be a slip of this guy how is he nominated he's got to know something about this part of it i mean
00:13:56.840holman i think was on tv said look he's not an expert in in immigration law this is not something
00:14:02.780for an expert this is not something you need to be an expert is it sir look i i would just say this
00:14:09.820just think of what dc obama judge jeff bozberg would do with an article three judicial warrants
00:14:16.700for any illegal alien to get expelled out of our country including a rapist or a murderer he would
00:14:21.940throw it right in his garbage can so that's just not the law it's not practical it's it would make
00:14:28.040it impossible for president trump to do his job and carry out his broad electoral mandate to get
00:14:33.060these illegal aliens the hell out of our country perfect perfect answer think about we had to go
00:14:38.240and there's there's hundreds of bozbergs out there he's the worst but there's hundreds of
00:14:43.840Mike's exactly right. You'd never get any war. Anyway, Mike Davis is going to stick with us.
00:14:48.540We've got so much to go through, and we're going to get it all done this morning in the war room.
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00:16:21.400Yes, there are reporters in front of me, but they are not our audience today.
00:16:28.520It's you, the good, decent, patriotic American people.
00:16:33.340You, the hardworking, taxpaying, God-fearing American patriots.
00:16:40.040The media here, not all of it, but much of it, wants you to think
00:16:46.640just 19 days into this conflict that we're somehow spinning toward an endless abyss
00:16:52.620or a forever war or a quagmire, nothing could be further from the truth.
00:17:01.100Hear it from me, one of hundreds of thousands who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan,
00:17:06.080who watched previous foolish politicians like Bush, Obama, and Biden squander American credibility.
00:17:14.960This is not those wars. President Trump knows better. To the patriotic members of the press,
00:17:25.360nobody can deliver perfection in wartime. This building knows that more than anyone.
00:17:31.840But report the reality. We're winning decisively and on our terms.
00:17:39.680With our team here, the director Gabbard told your colleague, Senator John Ossoff, that it's not the intelligence community's job to determine whether a country poses an imminent threat to the United States.
00:17:51.500She only said the president can do that. Does that come as news to analysts at the 18 agencies under her control, including the CIA?
00:18:00.160Well, that comes to news to all of us who thought we still had a constitution and the requirement that a president is going to into a war of choice.
00:18:09.100You have to react quite quickly. We give the president the deference.
00:18:14.260But this was a war of choice. And the idea that he alone gets to determine what is imminent.
00:18:21.420I always thought imminent was actually a factual determination.
00:18:25.000Many times the intelligence community says, you know, there's an imminent threat here or there.
00:18:29.800There was never that indication from all the reports that I saw and read.
00:18:34.960And I'm a little bit flabbergasted by Director Gabbard, but I guess not surprised.
00:18:41.640That is overwhelming force applied with precision.
00:18:44.040And again, today will be the largest strike package yet, just like yesterday was.
00:18:49.880As I've said from day one, our capabilities continue to build.
00:23:04.920Is the U.S. military playing a role in fighting against the regime, blocking VPN networks and satellites and other things?
00:23:14.640Is there a role for the U.S. military there?
00:23:18.760Obviously, on the allies and partners side, Israel from day one has been an incredible and capable partner, willing and able.
00:23:26.680There's nothing like capabilities and partners that are able to use them.
00:23:30.740The Gulf states have stepped up incredibly.
00:23:32.540In fact, Iran's sort of reckless attempt to strike civilian infrastructure and other things has brought countries who maybe would have not been as all in as they are today squarely into our orbit.
00:23:45.920And we're proud to be defending with them, standing with them, you name it, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and others who have been right there.
00:23:55.580And we're grateful for that kind of support.
00:23:57.600Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Given the updated degradation and strike target numbers you laid out, how close would you say we are towards achieving the president's objectives? And what is the end game of the operation without divulging any sensitive battle plans?
00:24:10.420Well, we wouldn't want to set a definitive time frame on that, but as we've said, we're on plan.
00:24:14.740So we're looking at those metrics very closely, relaying that to the president and the national security team,
00:24:19.880but feel confident that as, again, we're more stand in, means we're over the top, even further in,
00:24:26.400and we have even more of an exact sense of what we're striking and why, and even more dynamically,
00:24:32.040meaning because the intelligence improves, we're able to more quickly identify targets when they,
00:24:36.560let's say they come out of an underground facility where they've been hiding and able to strike it
00:24:40.800before it strikes or right after it shoots. But we are very much on plan. And that's what I that's
00:24:45.740why I want to speak to the American people here. You hear a lot of noise about widening or new
00:24:50.960missions or speculation about what we should or should not be doing. This is a clear set of
00:24:56.020objectives. The president has given us every capability we need to accomplish that. We've
00:24:59.700got the best in the world in uniform executing it on the ground. They are believe in and are
00:25:05.660invested in this mission and it will be at the president's choosing ultimately where we say hey
00:25:11.180we've achieved what we need to on behalf of the american people to ensure our security so no no
00:25:16.340time set on that but we're very much on track the vice president has often emphasized that the goal
00:25:21.420of this war is to do denuclearize iran while also avoiding a larger quagmire i know that you
00:25:28.640touched on this i'd like you to expand on how do you do that how do you denuclearize the country
00:25:33.800while also avoiding this, you know, forever war.
00:25:38.040And then there was a report last night
00:25:39.880that the Pentagon asked the White House
00:25:41.740for $200 billion for Iran war supplemental.
00:25:54.600without that audacious mission with very clear goals
00:25:57.060that did obliterate their ability to enrich
00:25:59.140and the capabilities they have in those facilities.
00:26:00.900So it created the conditions for Iran to step forward and say, OK, you can reach out and touch us like that in our nuclear ambitions.
00:26:07.660You can see that we're still trying to do this. Let's make a deal.
00:26:11.060And the President Trump put our two best folks on it, Steve and Jared, and they worked diligently, earnestly.
00:26:16.760I watched it to try to pursue that deal. And ultimately, I think the whole time Iran sort of said, well, we'll talk as we build more missiles and as we build more UAVs.
00:26:25.660UAVs and we create this conventional umbrella so that if we chose to, we could try to reconstitute
00:26:31.880the program and sort of naively thinking that President Trump wouldn't do something about it.
00:26:36.740And that's why, as Secretary Rubio has said and I've said, it's the conventional umbrella that
00:26:41.600was growing and growing and growing that was meant to protect that nuclear capability. So you had to
00:26:46.520address both what happened with Midnight Hammer and what happened with that as well. As far as
00:26:51.060$200 billion. I think that number could move, obviously. It takes money to kill bad guys.
00:26:59.960So we're going back to Congress and our folks there to ensure that we're properly funded for
00:27:05.340what's been done, for what we may have to do in the future. Ensure that our ammunition is,
00:27:11.780everything's refilled, and not just refilled, but above and beyond. I mean, President Trump,
00:27:15.260as he said, rebuilt the military in his first term. Didn't think he'd use it as dynamically in
00:27:19.780his second but he had so thank goodness he did that and an investment like this is meant to say
00:27:24.460hey we'll replace anything that was spent and now that we're reviving our defense industrial base
00:27:28.700and rebuilding the arsenal of freedom and cutting deals like our great deputy secretaries here is
00:27:32.700doing long lead times on exquisite munitions we're going to be refilled faster than anyone
00:27:37.820imagined and I think you know we're also still dealing with the environment that Joe Biden
00:27:43.140created uh which was which was depleting those stockholds and not sending them to our own
00:27:49.700military but to ukraine okay i'm gonna get uh mike davis hopefully back up this afternoon we're
00:27:57.220talking about the save save save america act i think there is some momentum we'll talk about
00:28:02.260that more also this press conference what's going on capital markets all of it you're in the war
00:28:08.340War Room on a Thursday, Japanese Prime Minister en route to the Oval Office.
00:29:42.220Okay, so the intelligence group, just like yesterday with the Senate.
00:29:46.880And remember, this wasn't called because of the war.
00:29:49.260These are scheduled that they have to do.
00:29:53.020I think it's twice a year that they have to update on the intelligence situation.
00:30:01.620ODNI, Tulsi Gabbard, submits a report to people to look at.
00:30:06.240Now, the report itself, we will get into more of that, I hope,
00:30:12.780probably won't have time tomorrow, but on Saturday, go through the report.
00:30:16.080Remember, we went through the National Security Strategy Memo
00:30:18.740and then the National Security Defense Memo that comes off.
00:30:22.000those are all required by statute to actually get done the um this is also by statute she has
00:30:29.760to deliver it as the overseer she kind of over over kind of manages at a top level all 17 although
00:30:38.620dia defense intelligence and cia run totally on their own and i know they do report up her at
00:30:44.840least in some some aspect the interesting thing about this is i believe as i read through it
00:30:50.560there is uh first off it's about the borders about internal security it's about
00:30:56.060intelligence about the uh the homegrown nature of some of this all radical
00:31:00.840to islam it's one of the reasons that sharia law is so important the texas proposition that
00:31:06.360we passed overwhelmingly uh but then they get to iran but then there's an i have an issue there's
00:31:12.920an issue with the uh director of national intelligence about the rise of china and
00:31:19.100particularly regarding Taiwan, we're going to have, obviously, our top experts from the
00:31:23.440Committee on the Present Danger, China, probably going to break that down on Saturday. But let's
00:31:29.620say this, I think in the intelligence report, it's quite different than what we've had over
00:31:33.700the last couple of years, and even different than the National Security Memorandum that was
00:31:37.980submitted, and the National Defense Memorandum submitted by the Secretary of War about China
00:31:44.400and the threat in the south china sea the straits of taiwan and particularly with a potential
00:31:49.300planning by the ccp and the people's liberation army and navy for an invasion of taiwan we'll get
00:31:54.840to all that uh later one thing i want to say mike davis had to bounce but um about the save america
00:32:03.720act you can see the pivot by the democrats because of the last two days we've had wall-to-wall
00:32:07.880coverage of this you haven't seen um they their arguments were not sticking that's why schumer i
00:32:13.320think is looking for some running room they keep flipping back to these war powers discussions as
00:32:18.380we covered last night another failed vote uh by the democrats this afternoon mike lee i think
00:32:23.780they're going to pick this up starting at noon like i said we're going to go to the white house
00:32:27.060for the prime minister's visit in a bilan president trump is inviting the press in i think around 11
00:32:32.14015 11 30 mike lee's back up on the on the senate we're going to have people up on capitol hill
00:32:37.640and um it looks at now we've we're on the bill it's now to get to uh to to the standing filibuster
00:32:44.800and all that that i think the next 48 hours will play through but i do think there is some momentum
00:32:49.320here because you see the democrats starting to fold particularly on the idea i'm sure they're
00:32:53.500doing the overnight polling and seeing this when schumer says that i want to now go to ohio the
00:33:00.340attorney general uh dave yost uh mr attorney general thank you for joining us while everything
00:33:06.000else is going on one thing i keep telling the audience we've got to continue to focus on is
00:33:10.200this is the concentration of power corporate and and and really governmental power in the
00:33:15.100united states you you are one of these um i would say heroic attorney generals that have stepped
00:33:20.780into the breach in this it's a situation with live it and i tell people it's not simply about
00:33:26.960an entertainment entity this this talks the bigger issues about corporate power now you're
00:33:32.220one of the attorney generals, like in Texas and other states, that have taken this up on this
00:33:36.680antitrust suit. Can you just walk us through your logic, given everything else is going on,
00:33:41.820why you consider this an important issue for you to focus on as an state AG, sir?
00:33:48.200Yeah, absolutely. Although I'll say, if I were a federal officer, this wouldn't be probably at
00:33:54.800the top of my list with everything that's going on in the world. But it is important, and your
00:34:00.220point on the concentration of power is absolutely important. That's what we're seeing right now in
00:34:06.820America. It is the suppression of ingenuity and innovation when concentrated power protects its
00:34:14.240own position. That's what's happening here with the Live Nation lawsuit. It's an antitrust lawsuit
00:34:19.740had been between the federal government and the state attorneys general were cooperating to sue
00:34:26.380them. What they've done is they have vertically integrated and created a monopoly that, for all
00:34:32.340intents and purposes, strangles the entertainment industry. You play with Live Nation or you may
00:34:40.140not get to play at all. They own the venues. They own Ticketmaster and the sales. They own
00:34:46.900the promotion company. They own everything from top to bottom except the artists. They only rent
00:34:52.980the artists because they're disposable.
00:34:55.980So this lawsuit seeks money damages as well as just vestiture
00:35:02.880of the Ticketmaster portion of the enterprise.
00:35:06.220It's kind of the linchpin of their ability to control the entire ecosystem
00:35:12.200to allow free and fair competition, which markets
00:35:16.440are how we allocate resources in a free society.
00:35:19.980But there's no free market when there's a monopoly.
00:35:22.980so i've known these guys for years and live nation they went about you know i was in the
00:35:28.820merger and acquisition department goldman sachs for many years had my own firm did m&a they they
00:35:32.760did a logical and i was part of a management company in the music business but they did a
00:35:36.940logical consolidation of of of the venues from the sheds the amphitheaters all of it but it was
00:35:44.700during the obama administration that then they merged in the obama administration approved this
00:35:49.740their justice department and antitrust division approved the merger into ticketmaster that's when
00:35:53.780it became a different entity i mean that's when they really had pricing power control as you said
00:35:58.940everybody but the hardest which they they rented as rent seekers are we making the argument enough
00:36:05.500that this is what obama and you know the democrats are all for these oligarchs and that's what you
00:36:11.900guys are trying to break up i mean the justice department came up with a solution you state ag
00:36:16.460said, that's still not good enough. We want to be tougher on this. We want to really back
00:36:20.480entrepreneurs. Are we putting a highlight to make sure people understand this is how so many of
00:36:26.120these industries during the Obama administration had the concentration of power around these
00:36:31.560oligarchs, sir? Yeah, that's a great point. The beginning, the turn of the century is when we
00:36:38.480really started seeing discussion about oligarchy here in America. And the state attorneys general
00:36:46.080have been focusing not just on this, but we look at some of the things that's happening in big tech.
00:36:52.480The attorney generals are in court, and we're concerned, and I think properly so,
00:36:58.780about the aggregation of unchecked power.
00:37:05.220What do you, what, the state AGs right now, it's kind of, and you guys don't have the staffs,
00:37:10.200I think, really do this, but now the court, the case has been put to you guys. You're trying to,
00:37:14.940you're trying to prosecute this or take it forward. What are you looking for? You had a
00:37:21.740settlement with the U.S. government that I think a lot of people would say, well, the Live Nation
00:37:25.980would consider that a massive victory. And here, we're hardcore neo-Brandeisians. I mean, we want
00:37:31.420the breakup of the whole thing is the breakup of big tech and all of it. What do you think
00:37:36.340the objectives are of you guys collectively as AGs right now in this live-in situation?
00:37:41.660Yeah, I think that there's a number of my colleagues that want to see it completely
00:37:49.380broken up. At the minimum, I think that everyone agrees that there needs to be
00:37:55.620more guardrails around the way they use their scale and their integration in the marketplace.
00:38:06.000Look, I'm not a Brandeisian or a neo-Brandeisian for the simple reason that I doubt that government is wise enough to make decisions about businesses, and it concerns me.
00:38:21.380We're putting guardrails around unfair competition as a century-old accepted practice, part of the fabric of our legal system.
00:38:31.700And while the Justice Department may, from a macro level, be satisfied with the settlement that they've negotiated, we out in the States have very different priorities.
00:38:43.680We have direct consumer issues that we want to deal with that aren't addressed, in our view, adequately with the federal settlement.
00:38:52.480And, frankly, the different venues are dispersed differently among the states.
00:38:57.840So while nationally the DOJ might be happy, the states are rightly concerned about things that are maybe a little bit more localized than a national market.
00:39:09.080I know it's always tough to predict on these trials, the length of it, but when do you see
00:39:15.840this playing out, both at the trial level and then whatever deal that you state attorney generals
00:39:22.200come and fit into the model in your own state that you're comfortable with? How long do you
00:39:27.840see this playing out? Well, right now, the trial is going forward, and I like this case. This is
00:39:35.680about as strong an antitrust case as I've seen during my professional career. And we've got
00:39:43.960really egregious behavior here. There's a message between a couple of executives talking about
00:39:53.100charging $250 a slot for VIP parking at a Kid Rock concert. And one of them says,
00:39:59.480I almost feel bad, I almost feel bad about taking advantage of them like this.
00:40:08.520That kind of hubris, I think, is not going to sit well with the court.
00:40:13.900At the end of the day, I don't know if we win disvestiture.
00:40:19.300That's going to depend, and the law disfavors it.
00:40:21.780But I think that we can get a lot more on the table than what we had at the with the federal settlement.
00:40:30.040And that's why Ohio is sticking to its guns at the moment.
00:40:36.020Well, that's the question. Of course, we would love to see the investor.
00:40:39.860But I agree with you that that's a I wouldn't say a long shot, but it's not you know, it's not going to be easy.
00:40:45.260But how did the Justice Department, given you just reiterated what we think, this is a very strong case.
00:40:51.780of course the company fought like crazy not to have these conversations put into the record but
00:40:57.620you know people kind of knew about them once they were put into the record you know how that's going
00:41:01.780to play in front of a jury given the hand that you had do you have any idea understand the justice
00:41:06.820department is is overwhelmed with you know the deep state and what they're trying to do on
00:41:11.060immigration everything to implement president trump's uh policies but do you have any idea
00:41:16.180whether why the justice department essentially took a pass on this and you got the guys men and
00:41:21.220Men and women at the state level had to then take it on their shoulders.
00:41:26.480Well, look, we each have our own portfolio.
00:41:30.840The Justice Department, to my knowledge, is tremendously understaffed.
00:41:35.520They've got limited bandwidth, and that's directly at the hands of Chuck Schumer and his pals blocking the president's nominees to do justice.
00:41:47.960so i i i'm not sure that there's that much of a disagreement between ohio and the doj we
00:41:55.980just simply have different things that we're looking for uh i don't blame them for not
00:42:01.460prioritizing this particular fight any further than the concessions that they were able to get