Bannon's War Room - March 21, 2026


Episode 5234: Debate For Troops On The Ground Continues; Strait Of Hormuz Conflict Is Not Stopping Anytime Soon


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00:00:00.000 With thousands more ground forces heading to the Gulf, President Trump signals the fighting could
00:00:04.860 soon be over. Quoting from his social media post from late today, we are getting very close to
00:00:09.640 meeting our objectives as we consider winding down our great military efforts in the Middle East
00:00:14.300 with respect to the terrorist regime of Iran. The Hormuz Strait, he adds, will have to be guarded
00:00:20.420 and policed as necessary by other nations who use it. The United States does not. He finishes by
00:00:26.320 saying, if asked, we will help these countries in their Hormuz efforts, but it shouldn't be
00:00:31.200 necessary once Iran's threat is eradicated. Importantly, it will be an easy military operation
00:00:36.280 for them. In short, getting out and leaving American allies to fend for themselves. As
00:00:41.120 for the declaring victory part, he did that as well today.
00:00:46.140 Oh, I think we've won. We've knocked out their Navy, their Air Force. We've knocked out their
00:00:50.640 anti-aircraft. We've knocked out everything. We're roaming free. From a military standpoint,
00:00:56.100 all they're doing is clogging up the strait. But from a military standpoint, they're finished.
00:01:03.120 Okay, but a lot of sources in the intelligence community and the administration tell us that
00:01:07.400 unclogging the strait is a problem without a clear solution, one that a recent intelligence
00:01:12.440 assessment determined could drag on for as long as six months. Now, a Pentagon spokesman dismissed
00:01:17.160 that notion, though, telling CNN, quote, one assessment does not mean the assessment is
00:01:21.420 plausible and it's dangerous for the media to cherry pick the worst case scenario to scare
00:01:26.040 the American people. Still, it is hard to find anyone with any experience in the region saying
00:01:31.620 that safeguarding the strait will be, as the president just put it, an easy military operation
00:01:36.160 or that it will open itself, which he also said today. I want to ask you this. There have been a
00:01:41.420 lot of lies. First of all, we're now, we haven't even, as of this hour, this Friday night, we
00:01:48.000 haven't entered the third week of this conflict. In terms of intelligence, military display of
00:01:54.060 power, there's never been anything like this in the history of warfare, ever. And yet people
00:02:00.740 making proclamations, oh, Donald Trump listened to Israel and to Bibi and to people like you and
00:02:06.780 to people like me, they don't know Donald Trump if they're making idiotic statements like that.
00:02:11.860 But here's fundamentally what it came down to for me. Steve Whitcoff meets the president wants a
00:02:17.860 deal. The president wants peace. They rejected it. They're clinging to their nuclear ambition.
00:02:23.540 And here is the option. Either we learn the lessons of history in the last hundred years
00:02:29.400 where over 100 million human souls died, and we preempt a raging Islamic fascist regime now
00:02:41.100 before potentially millions can get killed, or we hand that off to our children and grandchildren.
00:02:47.220 Not an option for me. I don't think it's an option for you. I know it's not.
00:02:51.080 And it certainly wasn't an option for Donald Trump.
00:02:53.180 And he made that calculation after Steve Witkoff told them that in 10 days they'd have enough weapons-grade enriched uranium for 11 bombs.
00:03:03.580 On day 22 of combat operations, U.S. forces continued to take bold action and remain on plan to eliminate Iran's ability to project meaningful power outside its borders.
00:03:14.900 Just two days ago, the U.S. Army launched the longest field artillery strike in Army combat history using precision strike missiles.
00:03:23.180 The strike took out Iranian military infrastructure, demonstrating the U.S. military's unmatched reach and lethality.
00:03:30.600 Iran has lost significant combat capability over the last three weeks.
00:03:35.080 We are taking out thousands of Iranian missiles, advanced attack drones, and all of Iran's Navy, which they use to harass international shipping.
00:03:43.960 Their Navy is not sailing, their tactical fighters are not flying, and they've lost
00:03:49.080 the ability to launch missiles and drones at the high rates seen at the beginning of
00:03:53.480 the conflict.
00:03:54.800 Our progress is obvious.
00:03:57.320 U.S. forces maintain air superiority over Iran's skies, having now flown over 8,000
00:04:03.080 combat flights.
00:04:04.560 Our air crews are performing exceptionally across the fight, from tankers to fighters
00:04:08.820 and bombers to land-based and carrier-based aviation doing a superb job.
00:04:15.040 Tankers are extending our reach so that we can keep constant pressure on the enemy.
00:04:20.220 Fighters and bombers are delivering precision strikes against our primary objectives and
00:04:25.400 our pilots across the board are dynamically hunting threats as well, finding and eliminating
00:04:30.340 targets in real time.
00:04:32.600 So far, we've struck over 8,000 military targets, including 130 Iranian vessels,
00:04:38.460 constituting the largest elimination of a navy over a three-week period since World War II.
00:04:43.900 You heard the president saying that the war could end right now,
00:04:46.960 but that further airstrikes would mean Iran could never rebuild militarily.
00:04:51.220 Where do you see things right now today?
00:04:53.360 Sure. Well, first, I would want to say that the very early mission accomplished,
00:04:57.000 we could end the war. That sounds quite familiar to a lot of Americans right now.
00:05:00.580 I think I hate to say it, but I think that we have gotten ourselves into a scenario where we may need boots on the ground.
00:05:08.560 And the reason I say that is because you can't launch an all air campaign with just airstrikes without actually having a presence in country.
00:05:15.560 So think about what we did. Even if you're not trying to go for regime change.
00:05:20.220 Correct. Even if you're not trying. I don't think you can do it at all.
00:05:22.820 I think that it's very disruptive to the country in general, because think about this.
00:05:26.360 from the perspective of the civilian populace in country. They're just seeing buildings getting
00:05:31.220 destroyed. And I have no doubt that CENTCOM is getting really good targets, and it looks like
00:05:34.860 we are hitting the targets that we want. But we're also hitting targets that are creating
00:05:38.300 serious civilian casualties. And so if you don't have boots on the ground actually monitoring what's
00:05:43.180 going on in country, that can spiral out of control very quickly. And if you want to compare it to
00:05:48.240 Iraq in 2003, where we saw an insurgency emerge, the scenario there is not even comparable to what
00:05:56.320 we're dealing with here. Iraq is about half the size of Iran. And in 2003, Iraq, and later in
00:06:01.640 2014, when we went back to try to weed out the Islamic State, we had a multi-country coalition
00:06:10.640 in-country with us, fighting alongside us, and actual boots on the ground. We also had
00:06:15.360 State Department resources, USAID, NGOs. We had groups there doing building, doing reconstruction.
00:06:21.200 By contrast, right now on the ground in Iran, all there is is destruction and there is no functional government.
00:06:28.160 We are making sure that there is no functional government to help people rebuild.
00:06:31.480 And so that leaves civilians with the question of who is helping us? Who are the good guys here?
00:06:36.600 Could we actually see then American boots on the ground going deep into the tunnels?
00:06:41.880 I mean, on the second question, if they really decide they want to go in and secure that HEU, I don't think there's any other way.
00:06:50.220 And that would not be a lot...
00:06:51.220 It's dangerous, isn't it?
00:06:52.220 Extremely dangerous.
00:06:53.220 That's not an operation.
00:06:54.220 They'd have to use special forces.
00:06:56.220 They'd have to use a ton of kind of air power to secure the location for however long they
00:07:01.340 want.
00:07:02.340 I mean, on the one hand, you wouldn't have to go in there and hold the territory.
00:07:06.180 You'd have to send in teams, get them in and get them out.
00:07:09.480 You know, that operation in Venezuela when they took Maduro was pretty impressive.
00:07:14.960 They have that capability.
00:07:16.960 I think grabbing Maduro was probably easier than sending people down to grab, essentially,
00:07:23.200 I guess the ATU was held in bins, basically, big bins.
00:07:28.620 I don't think that's the dangerous part.
00:07:30.160 I think the dangerous part is what type of resistance, because you can imagine the IRGC
00:07:35.280 is reading our press and knows this could be an operation, so they probably both fortified
00:07:41.140 it, probably booby-trapped it, and they'd be waiting, so that would be a very dangerous part.
00:07:46.260 Here's the bottom line for me. For 47 years, these bastards have been killing Americans, threatening us. And finally, we have a president who's done something about it. You had appeasers in Obama, actually worse. They were funding the enemy. Same with Biden. You have scores and scores of violations of these phony agreements. They're within a whisker of having nuclear weapons yet again. They certainly have the nuclear material.
00:08:10.500 I don't understand the opposition. They're ideological or they're grifters or they're
00:08:15.960 Democrats or whatever they are. If we're not going to preemptively, because of an imminent threat
00:08:22.260 that's quite obvious, take out an enemy like this, then when would we? When would we? The reality
00:08:28.640 here is that essentially during Defense Secretary Haig's press conferences or even during the
00:08:33.960 president's interviews, they make war sound easy, that air power alone is going to, you know,
00:08:39.960 topple the Iranian government or prevent Iran from ever getting a nuclear bomb.
00:08:44.760 Those goals, particularly the one about the nuclear bomb, cannot be achieved without American boots on the ground.
00:08:50.060 And as we talked about earlier, you might need American boots just to open the Strait of Hormuz.
00:08:54.720 And so this idea of sort of, and I hate to say, waging war on the cheap, I mean, that makes it politically palatable.
00:09:01.000 Our air power and our air force is extraordinary, but you're not going to be able to remove.
00:09:05.720 It's this thousand pounds of uranium that isn't enriched to a level where it can be made a bomb.
00:09:10.760 And this is this other problem. Just yesterday, Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel said that Iran doesn't have the ability to enrich that uranium now to a higher level.
00:09:20.040 It looks like the strikes have destroyed the centrifuges they need to.
00:09:23.400 So that uranium is not the threat Trump is claiming.
00:09:27.260 And then if he does think it's an existential threat, he's going to send Americans in.
00:09:31.580 They will be on the ground for hours.
00:09:33.520 They're going to be going into places that the U.S. bombed last year.
00:09:37.320 Tunnels that existed were bombed by the U.S.
00:09:39.740 So American troops will go in and have to dig through dirt and sand to get down to these storage bunkers that hold this uranium.
00:09:47.880 They'll be on the ground for hours.
00:09:49.980 And the Iranians will be trying to pick them off and kill as many Americans as possible.
00:09:53.440 We also remain zeroed in on dismantling Iran's decades-old threat to the free flow of commerce throughout the Strait of Hormuz.
00:10:01.800 For example, earlier this week, we dropped multiple 5,000-pound bombs on an underground
00:10:08.040 facility located along Iran's coastline.
00:10:11.520 The Iranian regime used the hardened underground facility to discreetly store anti-ship cruise
00:10:17.000 missiles, mobile missile launchers, and other equipment that presented a dangerous risk
00:10:21.380 to international shipping.
00:10:23.140 We not only took out the facility, but also destroyed intelligence support sites and missile
00:10:27.940 radar relays that were used to monitor ship movements.
00:10:31.800 to threaten freedom of navigation in and around the Strait of Hormuz is degraded as a result,
00:10:37.480 and we will not stop pursuing these targets. You know, 9-11 happens. Everybody, they go,
00:10:42.680 well, what happened? We have a whole commission because people weren't awake. They were asleep
00:10:46.220 at the wheel. All these events happen. Pearl Harbor. We talk about Pearl Harbor. How did that
00:10:51.540 happen? Because everybody's asleep at the wheel and they're not paying attention. Well, you have
00:10:55.160 a president who's not asleep at the wheel. And now we're talking about nuclear weapons. And I ask
00:10:59.700 you this, Mr. and Mrs. America. What if the other side is wrong? What if they would use nuclear
00:11:07.060 missiles against us? What if this regime is evil? What if it is a seventh century throwback? What if
00:11:14.160 they really believe in death? What if they really do believe in everything they've said over and
00:11:21.060 over and over again? Should we risk the existence of the United States? Should we risk the lives
00:11:26.620 of 350 million people?
00:11:29.220 What's the Democrat plan?
00:11:30.480 We've already seen what they've done.
00:11:32.280 Or these neo-fascist podcaster isolationists.
00:11:35.760 What's their plan?
00:11:37.160 They have no plan because they have no mind.
00:11:40.380 Let me tell you something.
00:11:42.000 During the Revolutionary War,
00:11:43.400 we had, of course, Benedict Arnold.
00:11:48.940 You know what we have now?
00:11:50.220 We have scores of Benedict Arnolds out there
00:11:52.620 trying to undermine our troops,
00:11:54.240 trying to sabotage our effort,
00:11:56.900 do all these things that are going on
00:11:58.760 that we hear about our media.
00:12:00.320 Can you imagine a media like this
00:12:02.000 during the Revolutionary War?
00:12:03.600 Seven and a half year war.
00:12:05.980 We lost most of the battles we fought,
00:12:08.180 almost all of them.
00:12:09.360 Can you imagine what the media
00:12:10.580 would be saying today?
00:12:14.400 It's Saturday, 21 March
00:12:16.560 in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:12:19.040 Welcome for our Saturday show.
00:12:20.400 We're going to get a lot.
00:12:21.380 Captain Fennell is going to join us in a moment.
00:12:22.920 We're going to go through the military operations and the progress that we're making there.
00:12:27.600 Eric Bolling's going to join us also.
00:12:29.360 We're going to talk about oil markets, impact on the world economy, how we go forward.
00:12:34.020 President Trump pretty blunt yesterday saying, hey, when I talk to my military leaders, I think we've I think we've accomplished what we set out to accomplish militarily.
00:12:44.100 And if you want to keep the Strait of Hormuz open and oil coming and gas coming from the LNG, coming from the Persian Gulf, the Allies, the Arabs, Asians, and particularly NATO are going to have to step up here.
00:12:59.640 Keep the Red Sea and the Strait of Hormuz open.
00:13:04.180 I think Tel Aviv Levin has now become the new Baghdad, Bob.
00:13:07.560 i think he makes the case more and more every day of why this has to be uh reviewed and reviewed in
00:13:14.420 depth and it's not right now the imminent threat there will be plenty of time for that later
00:13:18.560 what we have to review and we'll get into this in the show and i'll do even a deeper dive tomorrow
00:13:24.120 is now it's become evident that 17 percent of the capacity of the qatar uh gas field the one
00:13:31.240 they have in joint ownership uh with the uh they have joint ownership with the iranians but they
00:13:36.500 actually i think run run it um 17 of the capacity uh has been uh has been destroyed and they are
00:13:44.960 talking about force majeure and five-year contracts virtually all of them i think in uh in uh in
00:13:50.740 europe uh how that happened how once again uh two big inflection point the two i think biggest
00:13:58.080 inflection points have come during the military operation was the bombing of the oil facilities
00:14:03.160 in Tehran a couple of Saturday nights ago, I think two weeks ago,
00:14:07.940 against a specific standing order from the commander-in-chief of the United States,
00:14:13.020 that would be Donald J. Trump.
00:14:14.920 That standing order is still out there.
00:14:17.780 You are not to touch Iranian oil facilities.
00:14:21.620 The Karg Island event by a magnificent military took out the military targets in precision,
00:14:29.240 did not touch the oil targets.
00:14:30.800 Yet the Israelis once again went against a standing order from the commander-in-chief and bombed the Iranian part.
00:14:39.900 Turns out they got the Qatari part, too, of this gas field.
00:14:44.660 17% of the capacity we now know.
00:14:48.260 That has to be investigated.
00:14:50.320 It has to be investigated now.
00:14:51.580 The answers so far are not acceptable.
00:14:54.660 Short commercial break.
00:14:55.540 Captain Fennell, Eric Bolling on the other side.
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00:16:33.840 Here's your host
00:16:36.260 Stephen K. Bannon
00:16:37.660 Okay, the war and rumors
00:16:44.460 of war
00:16:46.060 and of course the fog of war it's hard to kind of make sense of this i'm very proud of this show
00:16:51.760 we've shown so many different angles to this by the way rabbi willicky uh will join us uh tomorrow
00:16:57.700 on the sunday show also ben harnwell from rome the pope has got something to say about this we're
00:17:01.900 gonna break all of that down plus a military update captain finnell centcom put out another
00:17:07.040 video i i actually wish that the centcom would not put out videos i would like to see emerald
00:17:13.300 cooper just do what uh general kane does because i'll be blunt i think general kane and and amber
00:17:21.320 cooper in the situation we're in for the military operation part of it just do an incredible job and
00:17:27.060 i would like to see more of it and i would like to see more of it live and even have admiral cooper
00:17:30.440 take a couple of three questions from media but that's we're just putting that out there captain
00:17:34.640 finnell your assessment you've been pretty good at walking through bang bang bang here's what
00:17:38.740 they're attempting to do. Here's what actually they're doing. And here's the results of it.
00:17:44.440 Your thoughts, sir? Well, Steve, I'd like to start off with Admiral Cooper's final statement
00:17:51.240 in that video he put out here a couple hours ago. He said he gave the force, the 50,000 plus
00:17:56.300 American service members, three direct, three guidances, pieces of guidance. The first was to
00:18:02.820 be relentlessly lethal. And I think we'll talk about the lethal part. Then he said, be a good
00:18:08.540 shipmate, be a good partner, teammate. And then the last thing he said is steady your resolve.
00:18:15.420 And so when I listen to the cold open, I see a lot of folks that are civilians, a lot of folks
00:18:20.640 that seem to be losing their resolve. So when I just put that out there to say,
00:18:28.180 let's not lose our resolve and let's focus in on what's happening. And what's happening is,
00:18:33.180 is that, as the Admiral said, we've conducted over 8,000 sorties and we've struck over 8,500 targets
00:18:40.140 and we're relentlessly pursuing the Iranians' capability to project meaningful power outside
00:18:47.400 of their borders. Now, there's been some exceptions, but he said we're steadily making
00:18:52.200 progress there and the Iranians' ability to do that is declining. And empirically, we can see
00:18:57.920 that. For instance, in the ballistic missile launches, they have gone down. They're not
00:19:03.160 eliminated, but they have gone down dramatically in the first 21 days of this conflict, the first
00:19:08.760 three weeks. Now, we did see last night, Iranians launched two intermediate range ballistic missiles,
00:19:17.920 the Khor Ramshar IV, a ballistic missile towards Diego Garcia. One of the missiles broke up,
00:19:24.300 malfunction in flight. The second one was engaged and shot down by a U.S. Navy Aegis destroyer with
00:19:30.580 the standard missile three, and it shot that missile down. So, yep, that's a concern. That'll
00:19:38.860 probably be taking, you know, more attention now about where did that come from and where did they,
00:19:43.660 how did they get out and have the ability to do that. The missile itself, you know, with some
00:19:49.900 estimates that most of the IC's estimates in the public domain said that the Iranians didn't have
00:19:55.660 anything over or just around 4,000 kilometers. Diego Garcia is just about 4,000 kilometers from
00:20:02.620 Iran. And this missile that was engaged and shot down, it was only previously seen to fly
00:20:12.120 2,000 to 3,000 kilometers. So this has gone well beyond what the assessments were. So a little bit
00:20:17.860 of us, you know, they're taking a last-ditch effort. It looked to me like it was a Hail Mary.
00:20:23.700 Let's see if we can strike Diego Garcia. And it's not going to work because of our ability to shoot
00:20:28.820 down and the fact that we've thought ahead and we've put Aegis, SM-3, Integrated Air and Missile
00:20:34.800 Defense warships that protect Diego and our other locations. And oh, by the way, the Iranians still
00:20:40.840 obviously have some cognizance because they did this strike right after Prime Minister Starmer
00:20:47.080 of the United Kingdom announced that he was going to let the US use RAF Fairford in the UK
00:20:52.640 and Diego to launch attacks into Iran. So they're still fighting, but their ability to be hurtful
00:21:00.340 is being diminished. Another area that we can assess is in the Strait of Hormuz. Admiral Cooper
00:21:05.420 mentioned that we dropped multiple 5,000-pound bombs. Those are the GBU-72s. They're 5,000 pounds
00:21:14.340 that can penetrate 150 feet, 50 meters. And we dropped several of those. It's the first time
00:21:21.440 those have ever been used in combat. And they're going for these hardened artillery sites, these
00:21:26.260 underground storage bunkers and underground missile launchers for anti-ship cruise missiles
00:21:31.680 and mines and anything else that could affect the strait. And when you, again, look at the
00:21:36.540 statistics and you go to the UK's Maritime Trade Office and their Joint Maritime Information
00:21:41.880 Center update from last night, we're now still have not had any vessel attacks in the Strait of
00:21:48.840 Hormuz for well over a week. There's been a couple of incidents on the north or south side of the
00:21:53.660 Strait, but those have been drones and no ship was actually hit, just some debris fell on them.
00:21:58.380 So the Iranians are not successfully attacking ships. Now ships are, you know, what we see from
00:22:05.760 AIS, only one ship transited yesterday, but there's dark fleet ships that are going through still.
00:22:11.340 and there's no, the UK's MTO also says there's no evidence of mines in the Strait of Hormuz. So
00:22:18.540 there is an effect there. The fact that there's no mines have been detected, the fact that there's
00:22:23.640 no ships that have been struck inside the Strait of Hormuz for days now, many days, for over a week
00:22:28.620 shows that we're having an impact. So what I think, I get back to what Admiral Cooper said,
00:22:33.900 steady our resolve. This campaign is working, and it's working significantly to reduce the ability
00:22:41.820 of the Iranians to have any coordinated, devastating impact on us. Now, they're going
00:22:48.660 to be able to pop off a missile here and there, like you talked about with some of the oil
00:22:53.320 refineries, but I think we're in a position now where we've just got to keep grinding on. And so
00:22:57.860 when I hear army officers on CNN and other places say that air power cannot work, well, it can work
00:23:04.620 because if the goal is to make sure that the Iranian regime is declawed and doesn't have the
00:23:10.220 ability to send out missiles and mines and ships and aircraft and those kinds of platforms that
00:23:16.600 can be devastating, we are achieving that. The other objectives about regime change and things
00:23:21.680 of that nature. I'm not sure the president's there on that. Right now, we're taking the
00:23:26.840 gun away from the Iranian regime. Let's go back to that. And I agree with you with what
00:23:36.380 CENTCOM and even the joint staff under General Cain have. But we did for the first four or five
00:23:42.440 days of this war, because Admiral Cooper is very specific. The ability to project power
00:23:47.700 in the region or against people in the region particularly the gulf arab states in israel
00:23:54.060 that's a change though from the first remember first couple of days we we we follow this
00:23:59.240 quite closely um it was about an uprising in the streets it was about power projection not
00:24:06.440 just in the region but power projection against their own people that has been noticeably
00:24:10.100 that that objective which kind of got inserted in there after the first couple days
00:24:15.120 is noticeably missing there is no uprising in the streets i think when people also talk about
00:24:21.660 uh it was only netanyahu who the other day said uh you can't do this by bombing you have to put
00:24:30.520 troops in if you want to bring the regime down that was his now uh i think his foreign minister
00:24:36.360 defense minister walked back and said that uprising those boots on the ground have to be
00:24:40.420 the Iranian people. But when people talk about boots on the ground now, I mean, it's the joint
00:24:47.040 staff and CENTCOM, I'm sure under the direction of the president, that has the Tripoli coming from
00:24:53.920 Japan with, what, 2,500 Marines and the Boxer coming from San Diego with 2,200 Marines to head
00:25:02.580 to the North Arabian Sea to add a capacity and a capability, not only to be used, to actually have
00:25:09.600 some sort of amphibious assault or something upon karg island and even the uh littoral the the
00:25:18.120 actual shores around hormuz where they did this massive bombing i mean that's a potential so and
00:25:24.800 now they're talking about potentially and this has been netanyahu has talked about this and
00:25:29.200 people in the administration have leaked to the press about the possibility if you're going to
00:25:34.580 really uh make sure that you have 110 percent probability that they can't get nuclear again
00:25:41.660 you gotta get the material that somehow that'd be a command or special forces raid
00:25:45.440 your assessment of that because this is the the war as defined by CENTCOM and their military
00:25:52.220 objectives you're defanging declawing I don't think there's any doubt as we've had you on and
00:25:57.560 gone through now for what 22 days or however many days we've been at this uh I think is going
00:26:04.240 as you said just right down very methodically and people should understand as Pete Hegs has
00:26:09.800 tells us every day is more intense than the day before I think he talked about what 10,000 uh
00:26:16.900 8,000 combat sorties already uh so it's intense but these other aspects of it are because of the
00:26:23.420 kind of the expansion of the war away from just the declawing and defanging captain
00:26:29.060 Well, I think the movement of the two mews out of Japan and out of San Diego and the boxer out of San Diego, I think that is, you know, they have a thing called the tip, the time phased force movement process that the military has in their war plans.
00:26:47.220 And so we were probably at a point in this process where if certain things didn't get resolved, if certain actions didn't happen, then there was a plan that said, okay, trip these groups, these MEWS, to start moving towards the West so that we can have that option to use them in some capacity.
00:27:06.420 Now, what capacity is the real question. And my sense is, is given the tit for tat that's been going on against these oil fields and what Iran did against Qatar, I think the president's probably concerned that the Iranians in the last desperation, like they did with these intermediate range ballistic missiles towards Diego Garcia, may be thinking we're going down, we're going to we're going to take out Karg Island and we're going to screw up the world's economy.
00:27:33.040 And so the president may have decided that it's time to make sure that we secure Karg Island and that put in, you know, Patriot and other interceptor systems there to protect it from the Iranians destroying it.
00:27:45.860 That's how I think if we're going to have any kind of action there, it would be that way.
00:27:50.460 And a MU is what they call a MU SOG, Special Operations Capable.
00:27:54.480 So they'll be the kind of people that will know how to look for unexploded ordnance, mines, booby traps, things of that nature.
00:28:01.320 But the goal would be to protect the oil and make sure that Iran cannot destroy the world's global oil supply.
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00:29:49.980 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:55.860 Captain, thanks for doing this.
00:29:57.280 These updates are great. Real quickly, Chrome moves. Tanker Wars, 87, 88. Lessons learned. We only get a couple of minutes, but some of the allies, I think, are actually stepping up and hearing President Trump.
00:30:11.660 But for the Navy to take this on and keep it clear, your thoughts, because this is the question everybody's asking, particularly in global capital markets, sir.
00:30:22.120 Yeah, Steve, I think, you know, while we discuss, you know, before the war started,
00:30:28.200 my concerns about the size of the U.S. Navy and the lack of ships, I think that with the two carrier
00:30:34.780 strike groups that are out there, the Ford and the Lincoln, the French carrier that's out there
00:30:40.080 with its assorted escorts, we have ships right now that could start an escorting process. The
00:30:45.500 reason that we're not starting this is because the commander at CENTCOM is not convinced that
00:30:50.140 He has eliminated the threat in and around the Strait of Hormuz, and they're going to keep bombing and keep taking out all those resources until they have that confidence, and then they can come in and start doing this.
00:31:01.320 And I think when you add in now that just got revealed in the last 24 hours that the U.K., Germany, Italy, France, and Japan, and it was really, give the credit to Prime Minister Takeichi for breaking the logjam and showing these Europeans that our closest ally right now is Japan.
00:31:18.040 And so by her doing that, I think it unlocked the people to say, okay, we're going to help.
00:31:22.640 So add in, you know, a dozen or so ships from those nations, and you develop a system.
00:31:29.320 And, oh, by the way, as Admiral Donegan, the former commander of Fifth Fleet and Absence said last Sunday on television, on ABC,
00:31:37.180 he said, in February, we had just practiced, 30 nations had practiced doing these kind of escort operations.
00:31:44.380 We've been practicing and training.
00:31:46.180 We have a standing maritime force that does this kind of work out there in the Fifth Fleet
00:31:51.680 area of responsibility.
00:31:53.200 So this isn't just some pickup game or something that we're picking up on the fly.
00:31:57.920 These are things that we train to.
00:31:59.600 There's people identified.
00:32:01.060 There's command and control networks.
00:32:02.940 There's communications networks.
00:32:05.920 There's all kinds of things that are already well-developed, well-trained to, and we know
00:32:11.020 how to do it.
00:32:11.600 It's just a matter of making sure that we, you just don't walk in and, you know, let the guy have, you know, anti-ship cruise missiles and start shooting at you.
00:32:19.580 You want to do everything in your power to eliminate all of that.
00:32:23.080 And that's what we're doing.
00:32:26.460 Captain, thank you so much.
00:32:28.620 Your writing goes up on American greatness, correct?
00:32:32.660 Yeah, I've been a little bit off a couple of weeks.
00:32:35.420 And I'm writing up for my annual PLA Navy review for the U.S. Naval Institute proceedings.
00:32:40.000 That'll come out in May.
00:32:41.600 we keep the main thing the main thing we'll have you back on to talk about that what's going on
00:32:46.800 with the chinese communist party as they view this captain finnell thank you on a saturday kick us
00:32:51.080 off eric bowling eric bowling sir the world is hanging right now focused on focused on the oil
00:33:02.120 and gas market straight or her moves but particularly now that it's been fully developed
00:33:06.140 But this Americans ought to be outraged at this, that 17 percent of the capacity of liquefied natural gas coming from that from that joint Qatar Iranian oil field.
00:33:17.040 And to have Captain Fennell right there say, hey, it could be God of Damarong with the Iranians, the Persians to take it all down around them.
00:33:23.600 And no offense, just logical war.
00:33:26.460 If they feel they're going to get wiped out and they're kind of messianic, you know, occultish Mahdi, 12th Iman or 13th Iman, whoever it is, why not take it all down around you?
00:33:38.540 That's got to be in the playbook.
00:33:40.400 The 17% capacity, and I think Iraq last night put in force majeure because their refineries have been hit.
00:33:45.840 uh the the um the qataris who are outraged by this because this attack was initiated by the israelis
00:33:55.040 to start things off uh is uh it i know they're lighting up the president saying hey
00:34:00.840 you know we didn't start this war and now you know we could have five years we have to shut
00:34:05.480 down this field how what's the implication of all this and what's the way out of here the president
00:34:09.680 yesterday could tell hey we won i've done you know centcoms destroyed this thing captain finnell
00:34:14.860 just reiterates what a magnificent job the military is doing.
00:34:18.460 And he's saying, hey, look, Hormuz is your problem.
00:34:21.120 Europe and Japan and Asia, China, you guys deal with it.
00:34:25.240 Your thoughts, Eric Bolling, on a Saturday morning.
00:34:28.600 Yes, Steve, thanks.
00:34:29.780 I think you're right, and Captain's right.
00:34:32.580 The game changed with the Israeli attack on that gas field
00:34:36.220 because it becomes oil.
00:34:37.280 This becomes, you know, if there's any question
00:34:39.020 whether it was a, you know, let's degrade the Iranians' ability
00:34:42.680 to deliver a nuclear weapon that was the original mission then it was you know let's get rid of
00:34:47.080 these crazy fanatical uh mullahs that was the mission creeped to that and i think everyone
00:34:52.840 has now realized that this is becoming about oil and maybe netanyahu the other day saying hey it
00:34:57.960 wouldn't be bad to bring some of that oil through israel i mean that was the worst thing he possibly
00:35:02.740 could do so there's mission creep steve i'm looking at numbers hold it could he couldn't
00:35:06.960 hold hold it he couldn't hold back he couldn't he couldn't hold back for making it to pitch
00:35:10.760 he couldn't hold back it was like if you had to take the dumbest thing you could possibly say
00:35:16.160 that was the dumbest thing you could possibly say given given the situation we're in this guy
00:35:20.780 this guy this guy this guy this guy's one of the worst people in on earth but continue on sir i
00:35:26.500 digress so so that changed the game became out of oil you pull natural gas out of the middle east
00:35:32.460 everyone's natural gas europe is really dependent on middle east and russian natural gas that that
00:35:37.800 brings it off so liquefied natural gas can be shipped so if it's coming offline over there
00:35:42.720 someone will buy it over here even though it's more expensive to transport it but guess what
00:35:46.900 with prices higher it may become that's why oil is fungible so wherever the price happens it
00:35:52.800 doesn't matter of the location that's why all ships all oil prices rise with one major disruption
00:35:59.200 zero ships 138 ships per day on average through the Strait of Hormuz zero ships at all 20
00:36:07.420 million barrels a day, zero barrels a day going through right now. Listen, they have an idea what
00:36:14.700 they're doing in the situation room in DC. But to allow, Scott Besson says, we're going to allow
00:36:20.580 them to sell 140 million barrels of Iranian oil that's sitting out in the sea, in the Gulf
00:36:27.180 somewhere. We're going to give them $14 billion, $14 billion to play with, Steve. You yourself said
00:36:33.920 when the iranians feel like this is an existential threat they'll they'll fight to the death we're
00:36:39.340 going to hand them a lifeline we're going to feed them uh an injection of testosterone for for lack
00:36:46.360 of a better word 14 billion dollars can buy a lot more time this thing can go on a lot hang on hang
00:36:52.700 on hang on hang on are we are we absolutely are we are we 100 sure that the cash because it's the
00:36:59.340 way it's been kind of talked about i'm not getting a straight answer is the is the 140 million
00:37:04.160 barrels that are on the high seas is that cash actually going to iran or is scott saying is
00:37:10.360 best in saying hey uh we're going to control the payments also and it may come to pay down the
00:37:15.600 expense of the war and he said that all i heard was we're going to allow them to sell 100 and i
00:37:22.420 think what it is is we talked about it for the last two weeks steve the achilles to trump has
00:37:27.240 the strongest military in the world at his fingertips. He's got an Achilles, though. It's
00:37:31.500 the high gasoline price of the pump in an election cycle, in a midterm election cycle. And they know
00:37:36.700 that. So the longer it drags out, the worse it becomes. When you allow the Iranians, and then
00:37:42.200 you're going to do a, what, about 40-day lift allowing Iranians to sell oil, the sanctions
00:37:49.140 against Iranian oil. That's not part of what Besant said. They're going to allow Iranians to
00:37:53.920 sell oil because the Chinese are buying it too cheap right now? I just don't know. Some of it
00:37:59.720 doesn't make sense to me. That's basically what I'm saying. But I do know when the Iranians feel
00:38:04.400 like it's this or the end, they're going to fight to the death. Steve, they have probably 2,000 or
00:38:09.320 3,000, the equivalent of our Tomahawk missiles. Remember, that's probably, I don't know, what,
00:38:14.640 2,000-mile shoreline for the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Persian Gulf, that they can lob
00:38:22.340 missiles and they can also use these unmanned drone kind of mines throughout throughout the
00:38:29.240 gulf so i i told you we spoke to a captain who not a captain a guy who owns a shipping company
00:38:34.680 that ships through the strait of hormuz he says it doesn't matter u.s navy ships aren't doing it
00:38:40.080 they're not in that area right now because it's not safe so they're not even safe with our major
00:38:46.060 destroyers and and uh you know mine sweepers if it's not safe for the navy it's gonna be a long
00:38:50.740 time when you know when you when you notice when you notice the combatants when you notice the
00:38:55.180 combatants are not cruising through there that's always a good signal that CENTCOM has not cleared
00:39:00.040 the area so what's what's going to happen and you've been great at predicting uh these markets
00:39:05.400 now one of the issues the audience to understand the longer they stay up and and also understand
00:39:10.820 this the Arab nations which are going crazy saying we didn't start this we didn't want to do it and
00:39:16.000 now you're crushing us Dubai's crush you know it's not going to be right for 30 or 40 years
00:39:20.260 they're also playing the double game in the fact that they they love hundred dollar oil right
00:39:25.180 trump had it down at 50 trump wanted full spectrum energy dominance at 40 uh it's going the other
00:39:31.040 direction they're in no hurry to get it below 100 bucks are they no you're we yeah though we
00:39:37.880 talked about the the qataris and saudis and the brianis and the omanis saying go trump go we got
00:39:44.840 and then they all shut in production the minute there they can they declare force majeures whether
00:39:50.040 they have to or not, because they can hide behind the war as a potential force majeure.
00:39:54.420 Because I certainly would like to sell my oil at $110 a barrel versus the $55 a barrel
00:40:00.180 it was when we cut that deal.
00:40:02.020 So they can force majeure on the 55 and sell it for 100.
00:40:05.140 They're not going to bring production online right away.
00:40:07.780 You clear the Gulf tomorrow, it could be 30, 45, maybe 90 days before some of these
00:40:13.020 countries bring it back online because they know.
00:40:16.380 They know that they can slowly, slowly reduce the price of oil themselves without Trump
00:40:22.520 and without supply or demand.
00:40:24.620 They can just keep the supply off the market longer.
00:40:28.740 So we'll work through our stockpiles, which are backing up.
00:40:31.520 We'll work through that.
00:40:32.300 And all of a sudden, we go, wait a minute, where's the new oil?
00:40:34.320 Well, it took us a long time to restart those oil fields.
00:40:37.300 It took them a day to bring them down and take them three, four months because they
00:40:40.920 want the higher prices.
00:40:41.880 I'm very skeptical that all these Middle Eastern Arab countries aren't actually winking a nod, maybe even communicating with Tehran or whoever's running the show, the IRGC, and said, just let us know before you can bomb that refinery or let us know before you can bomb that oil platform so that we'll remove our people.
00:41:01.100 And guess what?
00:41:01.800 We'll see higher oil prices later.
00:41:03.960 Steve, the first day we were on a couple of weeks ago, gasoline was, I think it was $3.11.
00:41:09.860 And I said, it's going to be $4.
00:41:11.080 I guarantee it.
00:41:11.880 Well, we're going to hit $4 probably on Monday.
00:41:14.440 People scoffed.
00:41:15.220 They laughed.
00:41:15.920 I'm going to make an ominous prediction right here.
00:41:18.220 $5 gasoline nationally.
00:41:20.420 That's $7 diesel.
00:41:22.760 Diesel is what we run this country on.
00:41:24.840 Trucks, planes, railroads.
00:41:27.220 Diesel fuel is vital to the economy.
00:41:30.420 $8 diesel, probably baked in the cake already.
00:41:36.020 Wow.
00:41:36.760 So what's going to happen next week?
00:41:38.500 Give us a forecast.
00:41:41.880 I think you're going to see massive volatility in the oil.
00:41:46.540 It'll be a rumor that everything's great, things are going well.
00:41:49.940 Oil will be down $10 a barrel a couple of days.
00:41:52.800 Then, wait a minute, Iranians said, no, not so fast.
00:41:55.660 Maybe they'll fire a missile into somewhere sensitive.
00:41:59.460 Oil will be back up to $10.
00:42:00.580 I think we're trending a lot higher, at least in short term.
00:42:06.660 Eric Bolling, where do people go to get your – thank you for stepping out today and on Saturday and doing this.
00:42:11.880 Where do people go to get all your insights in your new show?
00:42:16.580 Oh, new show's The Edge.
00:42:17.520 It's right there on the screen.
00:42:18.360 I appreciate you doing that.
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00:42:39.080 that's what we got i got to do more handoffs i got to get people know i got to get more
00:42:44.620 organized in my afternoon show there's so much that happens that's why i just love doing that
00:42:48.640 they say why do you do too i said there's so much goes on during the day in trump's presidency you
00:42:53.580 got to be on top of it but as you know i'm putting the show together at the last second
00:42:57.020 unlike the morning show we're a little more organized eric bowling love you brother thank
00:43:00.960 you for doing this over weekend we'll see you on monday sir i'll see you later steve have good
00:43:05.060 them had great insights um we're gonna get back to all of this uh we're gonna pivot here we gotta
00:43:13.200 talk some politics ken paxton two poles in texas coming out ken paxton up 16 and one on one against
00:43:22.220 cornyn and 18 on the other i think the grassroots are speaking with a pretty strong voice down in
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00:45:50.020 don't know 200 billion dollar price tag at least initial price tag for this war uh on top of the
00:45:54.820 1.2 trillion dollar um debt we already have wharton school analysis do something about budget
00:46:02.620 i'm trying to get him up on the show trying to find time he came up with analysis it's 100
00:46:06.900 trillion in debt not even contingent liabilities he actually has worked it through he said it's
00:46:11.440 100 trillion of debt he may be closer to the facts what did someone uh who was on the show yesterday
00:46:16.840 said getting close to a three trillion dollar deficit we've had that deficit coming down you
00:46:20.820 know scott bessons wants to get to three percent of gdp all of that into the dollar empire find out
00:46:27.260 about it today talk to philip patrick in the team particularly gold as a hedge in the turbulence of
00:46:32.240 capital markets gold had its worst week in 43 years what does that mean what does it mean for
00:46:37.940 you go check it out we're gonna get philip back up here on monday talking all through
00:46:42.160 winton hall we're next hour because we're just not going to be maniacally focused on uh on this
00:46:48.940 war although president trump as we said back in the summer when he had a carry battle group down
00:46:53.580 there outside the red sea on the gate of tears that straight is actually tougher than hormuz
00:47:00.020 by a long shot that one goes in the red sea and up to suez uh which is 100 to the europeans we
00:47:05.660 the carry battle group and the hutis look they're ornery they're tough hombres they were given as
00:47:11.180 good as they got then right uh it's a european problem we said at the time in european in china
00:47:17.300 and japan or moves that's your deal not our deal we're all good of course it affects the global
00:47:23.380 economy and that impacts us but we're all good so i think president trump he was pretty adamant on
00:47:28.960 the on the on the lawn getting ready to go to mar-a-lago yesterday saying hey look i took care
00:47:33.260 i took care i took the nuclear capability sank the navy blew up their air force did all of this
00:47:37.880 you guys have really pitched in in fact you've been kind of hemming and hawing time to step up
00:47:42.640 that's president trump putting as we say in the navy a shot across the bow
00:47:47.740 on uh with two main things one of the chinese communist parties the existential threat the
00:47:53.380 other is artificial intelligence and hurtling towards the singularity uh code red is the book
00:47:58.760 that you need to get up to speed on what this really means politics and for your kids look
00:48:03.580 the jobs apocalypse you know pal came out the other day and had pretty shocking news and we're
00:48:07.480 going to get ej and tony up next week he's been traveling around he gave a big interview to the
00:48:12.540 financial times about the economy but it was kind of a shocker uh went and because i think it gets
00:48:17.500 the heart of this ai situation and people got to remember when they see these announcers big layoffs
00:48:21.860 if they don't say it's related to ai it is all related to ai okay the cutting staff etc so code
00:48:28.180 grid gets into this and particularly the crisis we're going to face on job creation and particularly
00:48:34.660 high value added job creation that people can really build a family of four around sir
00:48:41.360 yes i mean one of the things we all remember was rahm emanuel never let a crisis go to waste
00:48:47.780 i think we really have to understand the political power game that's being played here
00:48:52.780 so sometimes you hear from the conservative movement oh this is all hype it's just marketing
00:48:57.600 You're trying to raise capital investment and so forth.
00:49:01.180 And, you know, we've heard in the industrial revolution that, you know, all of this was going to be a disruption and it ended up creating more jobs.
00:49:08.700 It's the lump of labor fallacy.
00:49:10.420 I think what we need to understand is it almost doesn't matter which way this turns out because it can be weaponized to build support for universal basic income and that fear and panic.
00:49:21.560 So whether you think it is going to happen or you don't, you're going to see efforts to push it.
00:49:26.560 And let me just give you a couple of quick examples of that.
00:49:28.940 So we all know that, of course, Elon Musk has said that AI is a, quote, supersonic tsunami headed towards humanity, right?
00:49:37.500 And I think we all agree it's going to affect everything from education to jobs to national security.
00:49:42.860 And that's literally why I wrote Code Red, to kind of walk us through all of the different fault lines as this seismic shift unfolds.
00:49:49.520 The second thing is, of course, Dario Amadei, the head of Anthropics, saying just a month and a half ago that in 12 months, Steve, we're not talking about out into the wild future.
00:50:03.280 This is 12 months from now.
00:50:05.380 He says we're looking at between 12 months and five years, 50% of all entry-level white-collar jobs being disrupted.
00:50:14.900 Now, that's our college kids, right?
00:50:16.660 The kids, our kids, you know, so you take out a big loan to get your kid through college.
00:50:21.040 They play by the rules.
00:50:22.360 You do everything you can.
00:50:23.660 And now you're talking about a wipeout of that lower rung of starting.
00:50:28.440 And we all know, we all had great mentors, and you have to be able to move yourself up professionally and develop.
00:50:34.000 If you hack off that lower rung of the job opportunity, what's that going to hollow out for middle management and upper management long term?
00:50:42.700 But more than that, what are those kids going to do?
00:50:44.420 And then Mustafa Suleiman, Microsoft AI CEO, says that in 12 to 18 months, again, just from now, we're looking at the ability to replace 100% of white collar job tasks, not exact jobs, but using the tasks that you would be able to do.
00:51:02.500 And so over time, automating that away. Now, if you think that that is a bunch of hype, fine, that's great. But understand, forces very well funded are using that fear mechanism, whether you think it's real or not, to build support for things like universal basic income, wealth redistribution, a global economic reset.
00:51:23.500 that we've seen Bill Gates seeding the narrative terrain
00:51:27.000 with this idea of a three or a four day work week.
00:51:30.140 We've seen the Bernie Sanders element of that as well,
00:51:34.220 trying to argue for a European style,
00:51:36.640 you know, 37 hour a week work week and so forth.
00:51:40.480 So the point that you have to understand,
00:51:42.720 and this is what I try to do in Code Rad,
00:51:44.420 is explain that this is a power game,
00:51:47.020 just as much as it is a tool that we might use
00:51:50.400 for productivity or our own efficiencies and so forth.
00:51:54.200 And I think that's the real way to get ahead.
00:51:56.820 I mean, one of the things I've always learned from you
00:51:59.180 is you've got to be able to connect those dots
00:52:01.320 so that you can think five steps ahead
00:52:03.960 of where somebody else is on that chessboard.
00:52:06.240 And that's what Code Red tries to do.
00:52:08.940 The question the audience has got is,
00:52:11.700 where have you been for the last decade, man?
00:52:13.740 You should have been out hammering this stuff forever.
00:52:15.520 Not just this, but other topics.
00:52:16.900 the best minds about how to message and how to lay it out there. Wynton Hall, the guy's been behind
00:52:23.260 the scenes and a major, major player. Now stepping out in front of the curtain, the book is code red.
00:52:29.840 Get it today. You will not be disappointed. The left, the right, the China, the CCP,
00:52:36.440 and the fight for the control of artificial intelligence. Wynton, where do people go to find
00:52:41.540 everything about what you're doing on this book? Thank you so much, Steve. Yes, so we have a
00:52:46.880 website uh ai code red book dot com but obviously amazon is the quickest way or barnes and noble
00:52:54.400 books a million the book is everywhere right now uh and so go ahead and grab it today if you can
00:53:00.240 the other thing of course is on twitter i'm at winton w-y-n-t-o-n hall and just at winton hall
00:53:08.560 and um thanks so much let's let's go sign up thank you brother books number 27 on the list
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