Bannon's War Room - Episode 5238： Markets Shift As Talks With Iran Begin

00:00:00.000 everybody's been killed from the regime they're really starting off there's automatically a

00:00:05.440 regime change but we're dealing with some people that i find to be very reasonable very solid

00:00:13.360 the people within know who they are they're very respected and maybe one of them will be

00:00:19.440 exactly what we're looking for look at venezuela how well that's working out we are doing so well

00:00:25.200 in venezuela with oil and with the relationship between the president-elect and us and maybe we

00:00:33.680 find somebody like that in iran are you considering any more options to lower the price of oil while

00:00:39.680 the price of oil will drop like a rock as soon as a deal is done i guess it already is today

00:00:45.520 no we have a very serious chance of making a deal that doesn't guarantee anything i'm

00:00:49.760 not guaranteeing anything i'm not going to come out here in a week or two weeks and have

00:00:54.000 You all say, oh, you said, I didn't say anything.

00:00:56.960 All I'm saying is, we are in the throes of a real possibility of making a deal.

00:01:02.840 And I think if I were a betting man, I'd bet for it.

00:01:06.420 But again, I'm not guaranteeing anything.

00:01:08.800 They want to make a deal very badly.

00:01:10.680 Thank you.

00:01:11.480 What changes would you like to see in DHS under Mark Wayne Mullen?

00:01:14.840 Well, he's going to be fantastic.

00:01:15.920 He'll make his own change.

00:01:16.860 He's already given me a list of people he wants to bring.

00:01:19.480 He's a fantastic guy.

00:01:20.920 I think he's just the right guy.

00:01:22.100 You all know him.

00:01:22.720 He's a very open, smart guy, very successful, actually, in business, which people don't

00:01:28.420 know.

00:01:29.420 And he's a friend of mine.

00:01:30.420 I think Mark Wayne is going to be fantastic.

00:01:32.020 Thank you.

00:01:33.020 Are these direct cops going on?

00:01:36.020 Terrible.

00:01:37.020 They made a mistake.

00:01:39.020 It's a dangerous business.

00:01:41.020 That's terrible.

00:01:42.020 Thank you.

00:01:43.020 President of the United States, boarding Air Force One to go to Memphis.

00:01:52.680 We've got Brian Glenn. We have Brian Glenn on the ground there. We'll go to Brian Glenn momentarily.

00:01:56.660 We've restructured the entire show because of breaking news in the last couple of hours about President Trump negotiating and all of this with the clock ticking down.

00:02:06.840 As we talked over the weekend, the clock ticking down on this ultimatum he gave that was going to basically expire sometime late this afternoon, early this evening, about the Strait of Hormuz being open and free to navigation.

00:02:20.040 the iranians push back now there's a lot of confusion of exactly what's going on president

00:02:24.560 trump's talking about and we'll play this again the first part of it uh momentarily uh president

00:02:30.140 trump who's actually negotiating with some of the official statement from the um from the uh

00:02:36.220 iranian uh revolutionary guard said hey there he's not negotiating with us nothing's changed and

00:02:42.220 we will destroy any oil and water assets that the arabs have in the local community here's what

00:02:48.060 we're going to do here in the War Room. It's Monday, 23 March, Euro, or 2026. We've got an

00:02:52.740 amazing cold open. We're going to blow the first break. Eric Bolin is going to talk to us about

00:02:57.160 markets. We're going to get all of this done this morning and much, much more. Let's go and play the

00:03:02.040 cold open on this Monday morning. Conflicting accounts between President Trump and Iran.

00:03:08.100 President Trump this morning said the U.S. has had productive talks with Tehran and that he had

00:03:14.080 postponed military strikes on Iran's power plant plants but shortly after Iranian state tv cited

00:03:21.860 the country's foreign ministries saying there is no dialogue we were about to take a step

00:03:27.120 an escalatory step David that many in the region and across the world feared could not be walked

00:03:33.120 back I'm curious what are you hearing right now about the president's decision to take a step back

00:03:38.880 and talk about these negotiations that he says have been going on?

00:03:42.920 So, Joe, he's obviously exploring the diplomatic possibilities.

00:03:47.020 If you read his statement, he's not describing a deal.

00:03:51.260 He's just describing the tone of negotiations.

00:03:55.160 Here's what I know about the diplomatic side.

00:03:58.840 Qatar had been involved in extensive mediation efforts along with Oman over the last week,

00:04:05.180 And those came to a sudden halt when the Israelis attacked Iranian gas facilities at South Paras, and that negotiating channel suddenly ended.

00:04:18.940 A new negotiating channel was initiated by Turkey and Turkey's foreign minister, Haqqan Fidan, over the last, I'd say, three, four days.

00:04:27.940 And there were statements yesterday suggesting from him that his meetings with Iranians, implied Americans, others involved had been productive.

00:04:38.000 Turkey's a key ally of President Trump in the United States, a NATO member.

00:04:42.660 And one final thing I just would note that we didn't talk about earlier this morning,

00:04:46.760 but over the weekend when Trump was making his fire and brimstone threat to take out all Iranian power plants,

00:04:55.780 The Iranian foreign minister issued an interesting statement in which he said, the Strait of Hormuz is not closed.

00:05:04.020 Ships hesitate because insurers fear the war of choice.

00:05:07.220 You, meaning Trump, initiated and then closed freedom of navigation, which we cannot exist without freedom of trade.

00:05:15.460 Respect both or expect neither.

00:05:17.500 In other words, kind of an opening from the Iranian that may have coincided with the conversations that Trump is referring to.

00:05:25.240 So we talked earlier about brinksmanship. It's dangerous, could lead still to a very bad result here.

00:05:32.000 But for the moment, it does seem to have provided some space for negotiation.

00:05:36.280 Yeah, and I think this may be how exactly you define having a conversation.

00:05:41.500 Certainly, there are no direct talks that we know of between the U.S. and Iran,

00:05:45.700 although as I understand it, according to people familiar with the matter,

00:05:49.540 that there have been messages passed back and forth between countries like Turkey, like Egypt,

00:05:57.760 trying to sort of get the read of either side.

00:06:01.820 And of course, this is now significant.

00:06:03.840 It's the first time that the president has actually said publicly that there are conversations.

00:06:08.640 Up until now, he has not sounded all that open to any kind of negotiation that would end this conflict.

00:06:15.740 And so that in itself, I think, is meaningful, as is the president's decision to postpone any attack on Iranian power plants.

00:06:24.620 And this is part of what these messages that were passed back and forth over the weekend were about.

00:06:29.700 We're warning of the major sort of escalation and retaliation that that would prompt from the Iranians.

00:06:36.060 Tehran had warned that it would strike energy facilities in the Gulf, even potentially desalination facilities in those countries that really rely on them for all of their fresh water.

00:06:48.380 And so this is a significant step that the president has decided to open the window for some potential discussions to continue.

00:06:56.000 But at this point, it is still entirely unclear about who exactly these conversations are with.

00:07:02.020 remember the president had said in the past that all of the Iranian officials that he thought would

00:07:07.040 be worthwhile talking to had been killed as part of this conflict. We also don't know exactly what

00:07:14.320 the president means when he says he's looking for a complete and total resolution to the conflict.

00:07:20.380 Does that mean, for example, that Iran would be able to keep the highly enriched uranium that

00:07:25.860 remains buried underground at one of its nuclear facilities? Does it allow Iran to maintain the

00:07:31.600 ability to close the Strait of Hormuz in the future. A lot of unanswered questions about

00:07:36.440 what exactly these conversations and these negotiations actually consist of. But it does

00:07:42.500 seem clear that the president is looking for a way to find some sort of negotiated settlement to

00:07:48.300 this conflict as we now enter week four. The program has been obliterated and they're running

00:07:53.580 out of money. So here's what I tell President Trump. Keep it up for a few more weeks. Take

00:07:58.680 Karg Island, where all of the resources they have to produce oil, control that island,

00:08:04.020 let this regime down a vine. Is this going to, though, take Karg Island? Is it going to involve

00:08:08.640 U.S. troops on the ground? Let me just read you something from The Atlantic. Does an assessment

00:08:12.120 on that. They say U.S. troops may well take Karg Island. We believe their ability to do so,

00:08:16.700 but only to endure ballistic missile strikes, drone attacks, petrochemical smoke, all without

00:08:21.180 a reliable means of obtaining logistical support. The result could be a grinding war of attrition.

00:08:26.620 War is being utterly transformed.

00:08:29.680 In the first week of Tehran's retaliation campaign,

00:08:34.080 drones accounted for about 71% of recorded strikes on Gulf states,

00:08:39.480 according to a CSIS analysis.

00:08:43.040 The UAE alone reportedly faced 1,422 detected drones

00:08:48.960 and 246 missiles in just eight days.

00:08:53.180 We could already glimpse many of these trends in Ukraine,

00:08:56.620 But in Iran, the future of war has definitively come into view.

00:09:02.900 Michael Horowitz of the Council on Foreign Relations says,

00:09:06.000 we are now in the era of precise mass in war.

00:09:11.460 For decades, precise, precision warfare meant a handful of tomahawk missiles,

00:09:18.460 stealth bombers, or fighter jets.

00:09:21.220 Now it can mean a one-way drone built from commercial parts

00:09:24.620 and launched in swarms.

00:09:27.880 What used to require

00:09:28.860 a great industrial nation's capacity

00:09:31.380 can increasingly be assembled,

00:09:33.680 adapted, and scaled

00:09:34.640 by much smaller states.

00:09:37.580 The economics of war

00:09:38.820 are being turned upside down.

00:09:40.960 A Shaheed-type drone

00:09:42.280 often costs around $35,000.

00:09:45.620 A Patriot Interceptor

00:09:47.500 costs about $4 million,

00:09:50.220 which would buy over 100 drones.

00:09:53.000 This is the new arithmetic

00:09:54.340 of conflict. The attacker spends thousands. The defender spends millions. I think it all depends

00:10:01.960 on the OK. The first one, if Iran says, OK, you know, we're willing to do some sort of ceasefire

00:10:07.320 and let us stay in power. And that would be the best. Right. For oil prices. I don't know about

00:10:13.140 obviously not for Iran. But but if you're talking about like the conflict, that would all depend

00:10:19.580 on how it goes, right? It would be a huge step for the U.S. to, like, occupy Cog Island or one

00:10:25.420 of the islands in the Strait of Ormuz. And, you know, you are very vulnerable there. And it would

00:10:30.880 all depend on the day-to-day back and forth of the war, I think.

00:10:34.180 Amazing military operation. God bless the fallen.

00:10:37.220 But it's a difference when we talk about troops on the ground.

00:10:39.660 I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust DOD. We got two Marine expeditionary units

00:10:46.540 sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this. The Marines, my money is always on the

00:10:52.800 Marines. I don't know if you take the island or you blockade the island, but I know this.

00:10:56.600 The day we control that island, this regime, this terrorist regime has been weakened. It will die

00:11:02.280 on a vine. And here's what I want to do. I want to get with Chris. I want to sprint to peace. As

00:11:06.940 the war winds down, I want peace to ramp up. The reason we don't have Saudi Arabia and Israel

00:11:12.520 making peace is October the 7th, 2023, Iran through Hamas attacked Israel, stopping normalization.

00:11:21.000 I want to take up and complete what Biden started. As soon as we get Iran defanged so they can do

00:11:27.740 never do another October 7th, I want to start up peace talks between Saudi and Israel this year.

00:11:33.360 I want a peace deal between Saudi and Israel, normalizing, ending the Arab-Israeli conflict.

00:11:38.680 It's been going on for 2,000 years this year, and you can't do it with a lethal Iran.

00:11:43.720 So we're weeks away from this Iranian regime not having the capability to stop peace.

00:11:48.820 I just spoke with President Trump, and he told me that Iran wants to make a deal badly.

00:11:55.920 He said that the talks have been ongoing.

00:11:58.300 I said, how much longer will this conflict go on?

00:12:01.680 He said the talks, I said five days to halt or postpone strikes on the electrical infrastructure.

00:12:10.320 It could happen sooner, he said, but I have put down five days.

00:12:15.200 I asked him what his reaction is to Iranian state television, saying that there are no talks.

00:12:22.940 And he said he's not sure what they are referring to because the most recent talks happened,

00:12:28.720 in fact last night with Steve Whitcoff and Jared Kushner and their counterparts when I asked about

00:12:35.100 the Iranian TV saying that no talks have happened he said it's hard to get any information there

00:12:42.000 because of the U.S.'s blowing up so much of their infrastructure so again he wasn't sure whether

00:12:48.760 Iran state TV was talking about because the most recent talks he said happened last night with

00:12:54.740 Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner. Again, the president just told me moments ago that the

00:13:00.500 Iranians want to do a deal badly. The market, of course, has reversed course this morning after

00:13:07.320 the president posted this morning in the middle of a big decline in markets. He said that he has

00:13:14.940 directed the military to postpone strikes on the electrical infrastructure and the power plants for

00:13:22.620 five days as these talks continue. The war's over, let's say. The enemy's defeated.

00:13:30.560 The straits are open. In addition to oil flowing, imagine the economic activity and growth that will

00:13:37.660 occur in the Middle East. Imagine a Middle East where even countries, not just that opposed Israel,

00:13:45.500 but opposed each other, some of these Arab countries, they start to work together. They

00:13:50.140 start to have more commerce together they start to have more commerce with us and so forth and so on

00:13:54.860 isn't that another way of looking at this and if and if the enemy did get that nuclear weapon

00:14:01.160 that strait could be shut forever and there couldn't be a damn thing we could do about it

00:14:06.200 monday 23 march ever earlier 2026 uh i think over the weekend what we talked about was this

00:14:15.300 forcing function that was going to take place later this afternoon with the president saying

00:14:19.220 hey if you uh if you have not open up the straight or her moves to free navigation

00:14:24.260 i'm going to unleash hell of course the iranians came back and said fine we hear you and we're

00:14:29.460 going to unleash hell back capital markets uh bond markets equity markets but particularly

00:14:35.500 commodity markets literally in free fall overnight president announced today they've actually been in

00:14:40.540 discussions with appropriate personnel on the iranian side uh jared kushner steve whitkoff

00:14:47.000 turkey may have a role in this i would tell folks buckle up this week i think it's going to be a

00:14:53.460 bumpy ride uh eric bowling let's get you in here first um you did a great job team this up on

00:14:59.200 saturday can't the deadline at five clearly worked as a as a forcing function particularly

00:15:06.380 to the the global capital and commodities markets last night was uh pretty brutal in asia

00:15:12.720 as the markets open early evening New York City time,

00:15:17.480 Eastern Daylight time, and particularly oil.

00:15:20.580 Now, that's kind of reversed,

00:15:21.780 but there's bounce backs from that

00:15:23.600 as people try to sort this out.

00:15:25.680 Just give us your assessment of where these,

00:15:27.420 what are the markets telling us this morning

00:15:29.960 about this new information they've gotten

00:15:33.040 from the President of the United States?

00:15:35.580 Well, I think the markets are telling us,

00:15:38.160 buckle up like you just said.

00:15:39.240 We were talking about that last week, Steve,

00:15:40.460 where it's going to get really volatile,

00:15:41.640 or every news story, every comment, either out of Trump or the foreign ministers, whoever's

00:15:46.520 running Iran, they make a comment, markets react.

00:15:49.680 I'll tell you exactly what happened last night at 6 o'clock.

00:15:52.140 We get a preview of what's happening.

00:15:54.060 The night trading starts.

00:15:57.040 All the equities are down.

00:15:58.220 Dow, S&P, Nasdaq, we're down 300, 400, 500 points.

00:16:01.780 Woke up this morning, they were down 700.

00:16:04.060 Trump made the statement on truth that he was going to delay this, whatever action he

00:16:08.820 was going to take, the bombing of Iranians' oil and electricity plants, for five days.

00:16:16.040 Markets went from down 700 to down 1,200.

00:16:19.120 And then the foreign minister said, oh, no, we're not negotiating with Trump.

00:16:23.080 And the question is now, who's telling the truth?

00:16:25.620 All right, so there's this thing called the taco trade.

00:16:27.980 There's no disrespect meant whatsoever.

00:16:30.620 Wall Street, they're jerks, but they call it taco.

00:16:33.200 Trump always chickens out.

00:16:34.300 What means he says things sometimes, and it doesn't follow through on him.

00:16:38.540 And markets, when he says them, they react, and then he doesn't follow through, which is exactly what happened this time, and they flip and go the other way.

00:16:44.980 And some people are now trying to game that system by saying, when Trump says something, do the opposite of that, the direction of it goes, because he will back out and it will go back up the other way.

00:16:53.540 The problem with the taco trade is, you know, sometimes Trump's playing the media and playing even the markets as well, playing Wall Street, because, you know, he said he was going to take Maduro in Venezuela.

00:17:04.340 Oops, and he did.

00:17:05.700 And he also said, I'm going to attack Iran.

00:17:07.800 Oops, and he did.

00:17:08.540 twice. So they're playing a dangerous game here. I will tell you the volatility is here to stay,

00:17:13.400 and there are fallouts, because this means gas and oil prices will remain elevated going forward.

00:17:19.060 We're going to hit a $4 average of gasoline probably on Wednesday, Stephen, and like I said

00:17:22.840 over the weekend, probably a $5 down the road. So oil, very quickly, oil went from, at the time

00:17:29.560 of Trump backing off, it was $101 a barrel, WTI West Texas, went down to $88, and now it's back up

00:17:36.560 to 92 and now it's playing around 88 90 or so so it's still lower markets are still higher but

00:17:43.260 everyone's waiting to see holding their breath to see what's real and what's not where where

00:17:48.580 brent got to over like 110 112 that dropped to uh to did that drop below 100 i saw 101 low

00:17:57.660 of the day for brent then it bounced back up and um it's trading right around 100 101 a barrel but

00:18:04.100 had gotten as high as you know legitimately sitting 115 for a while late last week

00:18:09.180 remember our our great allies in the gulf particularly qatar uae and uh and um

00:18:19.020 um the saudis they want oil and gas prices as high as possible it's qatar obviously very

00:18:25.580 concerned about their field seven they said 17 of production taken out of uh their lng capacity

00:18:32.300 but they would love to be able to cause force majeure on those contracts and those in particular

00:18:38.800 as far out as you can get and renegotiate those with the europeans same with the saudis the

00:18:43.940 saudis love uh oil above 100 bucks a barrel right so our allies are only our allies in certain

00:18:49.760 aspects of this uh eric yeah so they're they're they're allies to trump saying yeah trump go ahead

00:18:55.740 keep going you know we got your back we support your action against iran because every one of

00:19:00.820 those actions creates a higher oil price. And then also when the Iranians retaliate against

00:19:06.080 Middle Eastern oil infrastructure, which is very strange to me, Steve, when you think about it,

00:19:10.280 why would they go after oil infrastructure in the Middle East, other than maybe trying to send a

00:19:14.280 message to Trump, we're going to get oil prices as high as possible. There's a danger. So my point

00:19:19.900 is, I think we've been talking about this for the better part of three weeks now that the Middle

00:19:23.620 Eastern allies, so to speak, may be in somewhat cahoots with the Iranians, even if it's not an

00:19:29.000 actual email or text saying we got you but maybe there's some communication from the Iranians to

00:19:34.180 let's see Bahrain or Kuwait or Saudi Arabia not Israel but the others where they say we're going

00:19:40.180 to hit this oil infrastructure whether it's a refinery or an oil producing platform we want

00:19:45.800 to let you know get your people off there but it's going to get hit that means they get their

00:19:48.940 people off no loss of life and all of a sudden oil prices remain high and then these countries

00:19:54.000 get to slowly bring that back online they could say it's going to take us 60 days 90 days the

00:19:59.820 longer it takes to bring all that energy production back online the longer these prices are going to

00:20:05.780 stay elevated and the filling the coffers of the middle eastern countries is a problem i will tell

00:20:11.600 you lindsey graham out there saying go hit them take cargisland that's one of the most foolish

00:20:15.640 things i've ever heard in my life stay away from the oil infrastructure right now cargisland's all

00:20:19.840 about oil and energy you want to stay away from those at all costs hit other things not their oil

00:20:25.480 infrastructure because that was going to come back and haunt you lindsey just never never met a war

00:20:30.240 he didn't fall in love with or wasn't already in love with or supporting or agitating so i hope

00:20:35.820 lindsey's i do yeah i do yeah i i do yeah i i do think he's not talking about destroying

00:20:42.520 the oil infrastructure at least his concept i think the concept of the people is these two marine

00:20:47.720 uh expeditionary units one on the tripoli coming from japan the other on the uss boxer

00:20:53.800 with even more capabilities coming from san diego i think total of 5 000 marines i think they view

00:20:59.920 that as let's seize that and that chokes the iranians down because that's the that's essentially

00:21:05.100 where all their oil goes to be transported to vessels to get out of the the um the the the

00:21:10.560 straight or her moves in persian gulf i do think that one thing that became evident uh it was

00:21:15.880 already evident but i think it's pretty uh pretty evident now is that president trump's uh at least

00:21:21.560 his stated goal of turning it over to the japanese and to the and to nato to keep it open uh is just

00:21:29.620 not going to happen number one president trump did refer to the nato allies as cowards let's

00:21:33.420 game this out yeah go ahead let's go ahead you're you're a master geopolitical strategist right

00:21:38.240 you're iran right now they're getting hit they're getting their ass handed to him on a stick and the

00:21:43.420 One thing they do have is the only thing they have to ever rebuild back is oil, right?

00:21:49.060 So you're right.

00:21:50.020 Cargillin is essentially their main oil terminal.

00:21:53.080 They have others, but it's the main one.

00:21:55.000 If you're Iran and you hear that someone's coming after Cargillin,

00:21:59.100 which is essentially your existential threat,

00:22:01.680 and let's just say we are as badass as we are

00:22:04.020 and we get the Marines to look like they're going to take it.

00:22:07.240 Do you think for one second, Stephen K. Bannon,

00:22:09.760 that those that cargo island isn't already wired with explosives to blow the smithereens out of

00:22:16.360 that island if it looks like they're going down i mean i wouldn't you i would but i think they

00:22:24.340 would realize that that would uh be uh 20 10 years until they get anything back i think actually they

00:22:29.700 would uh they would try to defend it there's no doubt about it but i'm not so sure that they

00:22:34.560 would bring it all down around them because they brought it all down around them then there's no

00:22:37.920 there's no other side to get to it's complicated look i'm not what's sending the marines in right

00:22:43.700 now because it's got you're gonna have you're gonna have yeah you put the dog and the question

00:22:48.700 is this a dog he's ready he's ready to get killed the dog's gonna fight his way out and if he doesn't

00:22:52.840 he's gonna go down like yeah i would i would think that they're fanatical the question the question

00:22:57.320 is the question is this is this a cornered rat yeah is this a cornered rat a cornered dog or

00:23:02.860 cornered grizzly bear with what they got left uh talk to me about how are markets viewing this

00:23:08.640 right now because obviously president trump is very attuned to market reaction to his moves

00:23:15.100 right particularly tactically uh as you see this develop today and i think you'll see that the

00:23:21.920 turks uh have a role in this as some sort of intermediary or at least helping and assisting

00:23:27.280 president trump uh get communication with whoever really can make a deal uh how do you think mark

00:23:33.060 what a market's going to look for today tomorrow and the next day uh to make sure that this

00:23:38.260 turbulence uh which president trump's clearly trying to get out of the markets that uh for

00:23:43.680 them to get back to stability and a little more calmness uh what are they going to look for

00:23:48.960 so here's here's the game and you know you texted me over a couple a few hours ago about this

00:23:54.840 You know, the real crisis could be a housing crisis here.

00:23:58.060 And the way that would work is if oil stays elevated, the Fed has to come in, raise interest rates to bring down the price of oil.

00:24:03.720 That would raise interest rates.

00:24:05.020 That puts a massive pressure on the housing market.

00:24:08.220 If housing collapses, then the whole economy collapses.

00:24:10.860 But I will tell you there's another one.

00:24:12.000 Before that happens, energy is going to be super high for a long time.

00:24:16.400 That would be the fallout, one of the fallouts.

00:24:18.280 But a bigger fallout was we would lose the AI race that we're fighting for.

00:24:21.880 AI is massively dependent on energy, energy we don't have yet here to fulfill the full AI capacity that they're looking at five, 10 years down the road.

00:24:31.260 So if we start playing the game of $200 barrels of oil and probably jet fuel has already doubled in one month, jet fuel alone, diesel's up 45% in a month.

00:24:40.400 I mean, so if we start playing this game of high energy prices, we're going to get smoked in the AI development phase as well.

00:24:46.740 So there's a whole lot of things that could happen.

00:24:49.220 the first shoe to drop would be the stock market, then it would be the housing market to follow if

00:24:53.740 we follow that path down the road. And again, I think that's why Trump won't let that happen,

00:24:58.960 because I think he realizes the same thing. Well, we've taught the audience the 10-year bond

00:25:05.180 or the benchmark. It got up to 4.4% to 4.3%, but it's the bond market you also should. Bond market

00:25:11.940 had a lot of turbulence last week, although still orderly, as you traders call it. Eric,

00:25:17.340 anything else we should be thinking about today before he lets you go really appreciate you coming

00:25:21.240 on over the weekend teeing this up and uh you kind of a little bit of a called shot here uh you said

00:25:26.380 that this was going to be a forcing function the markets responded in asia overnight and turned out

00:25:31.100 to be a forcing function um what what thoughts do you have for us before you bounce i think we

00:25:36.800 have the same thing going forward steven it's not remember what i said even if they declare all clear

00:25:42.060 right now you're going to still see a four dollar gallon gas and we're going to still see at least

00:25:45.500 to 450 going forward and it's not all clear these iranians they're fanatics and i believe they're

00:25:50.500 that corner dog that will fight to the death if they have to and that would mean even blowing up

00:25:55.000 some of their own oil infrastructure because they know that would hurt the west the most so keep

00:26:00.180 your eye but it's going to get buckle up buttercup as they say it's going to get wild

00:26:03.140 what about last thing with diesel because the nation runs on diesel i mean i think something

00:26:09.840 like 90 of all food is transported by diesel but the truckers in this country are the backbone of

00:26:15.120 our logistics uh uh chain what's your thoughts on diesel diesel so all these fuels that aren't

00:26:23.060 gasoline gasoline is the most produced diesel diesel is the second most used and produced

00:26:27.500 up 528 gallon up 45 in a month is very very uh damaging it's not only truckers it's also

00:26:35.480 trains run on diesel as well so all those transportation east to west etc that's going

00:26:40.080 to be everything's going to go up and that turns into again something we've been you're you're

00:26:45.040 doing some breaking news in this show quite a bit. Inflation. Inflation is on its way up because of

00:26:51.220 this. And these inflation numbers that we're seeing today reflect 30 to 45 days ago. So in the last

00:26:57.220 month, the next few inflation numbers are going to be quite elevated because of that, because of

00:27:01.840 diesel. Everything has a diesel or energy input to it. Every single product we have here for one

00:27:08.560 way, shape or another that you buy on a daily basis has an oil component to it. The prices are

00:27:14.500 higher unfortunately yeah including uh including uh fertilizer all of it plastics thank you so

00:27:22.840 much eric where do people go for your new show your show here at four o'clock on rav social

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00:31:05.620 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:31:10.060 Okay, there's so much else going on, and we're going to make it make sense for everybody as we go back.

00:31:17.160 We're going to go back in a minute for the president of the United States, what he just said going off the plane.

00:31:20.820 By the way, Brian Glenn's in Memphis.

00:31:22.560 We're going to get that president's heading there.

00:31:24.840 I asked Mike Davis.

00:31:25.680 So, Mike, first off, SAVE Act, we covered it all weekend.

00:31:30.260 Tuberville's thing got shot down.

00:31:32.260 God bless Mike Lee.

00:31:33.360 Mike Lee has just been grinding all weekend, trying to get a legislature, not just a messaging bill.

00:31:39.660 The president understood, had a quite hot conversation.

00:31:43.700 I think it's been reported with John Thune.

00:31:45.380 not exactly happy was with thune's uh energy and urgency on the save america act the president's

00:31:52.320 got ice going to help out at the airports and and and you should know some of these airports like

00:31:58.500 atlanta they're three and four hour waits ice is going but he just reiterated hey yeah if they you

00:32:04.040 know somebody's there i guess they can arrest people right now he's saying they got to take

00:32:07.320 their mask off but the rest people a little confusing but he's told thune and guys no deal

00:32:13.220 on dhs there's no deal on these radical democrats until i get the save act just kind of put it in

00:32:19.400 perspective where do you think what's the president trying to accomplish here uh with this i'm not i'm

00:32:25.300 not trading off uh ice to get the save act you guys are going to hold the line on that and i'm

00:32:31.760 still going to get the save act because soon i need you to ramp it up brother and oh by the way

00:32:36.160 morning joe and total meltdown i'm gonna put ice into into the atlanta airport in the houston

00:32:41.680 airport and they're going to help out and by the way if they see a couple of three guys that you

00:32:47.660 know guys that look like bad hombres maybe they get maybe they get stopped and asked a few questions

00:32:52.120 mike davis uh senator john thune the senate majority leader is a very nice guy uh but

00:33:00.240 the save america act is a crucial test of john thune's effectiveness of his leadership

00:33:09.220 We have a bill, the Save America Act, that has 80% support of Americans, including a supermajority of Democrats and even a supermajority of minorities.

00:33:25.780 It's because the bill is commonsensical.

00:33:29.420 It requires proof of citizenship and voter ID to vote in American elections.

00:33:36.560 These Democrats have mass imported tens of millions of illegal aliens into our country.

00:33:44.200 They are lavishing them with welfare, welfare fraud.

00:33:49.520 They are allowing these illegal aliens to get driver's licenses.

00:33:57.760 And in many of these states, when you get a driver's license, you can easily opt in to register to vote.

00:34:04.820 And then these Democrats are refusing to turn over their voter rolls to the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division to make sure that illegal aliens are not voting in American elections, which is hard to find.

00:34:20.680 These Democrats know that they are replacing American workers and replacing American voters, the replacement theory they used to call it. But it's actually happening, right?

00:34:34.880 And there is no excuse for Senate Majority Leader John Thune and the rest of his Senate Republican colleagues to not get the Save America Act through the Senate and on President Trump's desk for his signature.

00:34:51.780 This is the most crucial piece of legislation. Are we going to have a republic that is run by sovereign citizens or are we going to have a republic that's run by foreign invaders? It's that simple.

00:35:06.100 but so and also there's confusing messaging coming mark wayne mullen you and i had a discussion the

00:35:12.740 other day said there's got to be uh what uh judicial um uh warrants to go in and to the

00:35:19.240 offices and to the businesses etc very confusing because with president trump hey it's all part of

00:35:25.600 the same thing there's 20 million here we got to get them out and just saying they can't vote is

00:35:30.300 not going to that's step one and of course he jumped thune and because we covered this all

00:35:35.840 weekend and you've got mike lee and you've got eric schmidt and you've got a couple of three

00:35:40.900 there that are actually fighting to get a legislative process the rest you could tell are

00:35:44.700 like 11 year old kids when they don't want to do something like stick around for the weekend or

00:35:50.020 kind of you know mopey about doing it i think trump put them on on notice also the supreme

00:35:55.400 court tell me what's going to happen at the supreme court another huge element of this of

00:36:00.260 trying to get to the bottom of 2020 election theft and make sure it doesn't we don't have the the

00:36:06.260 chinese communist party and the democrats working in conjunction can't steal future elections mike

00:36:12.060 what's this the supreme court's gonna weigh into this starting today correct yeah i mean let's go

00:36:18.060 back to the senate just really quick our most crucial sovereign power as we the people is

00:36:24.160 controlling our border and controlling our populace, right? And these Democrats are trying

00:36:30.960 to sabotage the will of American voters. When the American voters overwhelmingly elected

00:36:37.700 President Trump, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate to secure our border and to

00:36:45.240 expel illegal aliens, starting with the worst of the worst, like Trendy Aragua and MS-13. We had

00:36:52.640 another incident where a young woman was allegedly murdered in cold blood by another

00:36:58.980 illegal alien in America. This is unacceptable. And the American people overwhelmingly support

00:37:06.340 securing our border. They overwhelmingly support expelling dangerous illegal aliens. They

00:37:13.420 overwhelmingly support proof of citizenship and voter ID in our elections. The problem is,

00:37:20.320 is that Senate Republicans are completely out of touch with their constituents. They need to

00:37:27.580 get outside of the beltway. They need to touch grass. They need to go home and have town hall

00:37:32.380 meetings like my former boss Chuck Grassley does every year, the full Grassley, 99 counties every

00:37:38.300 year. That's what these Senate Republicans need to start doing because they are out of touch

00:37:42.960 with their constituents. Because I can tell you this, hearing from the inside,

00:37:47.800 Senate Republicans are overwhelmingly against the Save America Act.

00:37:51.640 They don't want to pass it.

00:37:52.780 And so that's why we need to turn up the heat with the war room posse and hold them accountable.

00:37:58.840 Turn up the heat as high as it will go and get this thing passed.

00:38:03.540 Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

00:38:05.500 This is why Trump put Dune on blast.

00:38:07.940 Just repeat that last.

00:38:09.040 I just want to make sure people understand this, that the people you see come to the microphone, except for a handful of them,

00:38:14.780 the Mike Lees, the Eric Schmitz, a couple other of these warriors, the rest of them have literally

00:38:21.660 no interest in this, correct, Mike? Absolutely correct. And the proof is in the fact that this

00:38:28.960 legislative package has 80% support of Americans, including a supermajority of Democrats and a

00:38:36.740 supermajority of minorities, even. If you can't get legislation through the Senate when it has

00:38:42.860 that much popular support, you should not be in the Senate, right? You need to find a new

00:38:48.460 line of work. Maybe you can, you know, President Trump works at McDonald's in the drive-thru.

00:38:53.500 Maybe these senators can go to, I don't know what these senators think they are doing. If they

00:38:58.180 cannot get something passed with 80% support of their constituents. And frankly, for these

00:39:04.100 Republican senators, it's probably much higher back in their home states. The issue is that they

00:39:10.720 need to show the courage and more importantly, the will to do this, right? We don't have a House

00:39:17.340 of Lords in America where we have these Lords who don't listen to their constituents. We don't have

00:39:23.580 that, right? So to these Senate Republicans, get moving on this. This is a test, a crucial test

00:39:29.620 for you. And don't fail this test because you're going to see your constituents very angry with you

00:39:35.860 if you fail this test. Again, the war room posse superpower is go to article3project.org,

00:39:44.360 article3project.org, take action. And the most crucial action item right now is if every person

00:39:54.520 in the war room posse can go to take action and it's to keep illegal aliens from stealing our

00:40:00.760 elections, right? If you light up both of your home state senators right now, send them emails,

00:40:07.720 light them up on social media, do the patch through phone calls. Article three projects

00:40:12.120 action center makes this very easy. You can do it in about five minutes. If the war room posse

00:40:18.460 does this and just lights up the Senate switchboard, you can help them find and keep

00:40:24.480 their courage among senate republicans look look the president right now is trying to make some

00:40:31.700 sort of overall deal or at least the beginning of a process in the deal in the persian gulf iran

00:40:38.240 uh area of uh area of combat uh there he's searching for a deal here he told thune the

00:40:45.420 exact opposite says i'm not trading off ice and and and dhs and what we need their minimum funded

00:40:51.800 to get a deal. You've got to pass the SAVE Act, you, Thune. And if not, I think he implied,

00:40:58.220 I'm going to be looking for a new leader. Leader is supposed to go find votes,

00:41:01.180 either find me the votes or we'll have a further discussion. So that's how high it is.

00:41:05.640 Also, let's play this clip. A lot of action at the Supreme Court. Let's play the clip, Mike. I

00:41:10.040 want you to opine on what's happening today about how we stop elections from being stolen in the

00:41:16.460 future. Tomorrow, the Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments in a voting rights case

00:41:22.520 that is pitting Republican against Republican. In an unusual case of inter-party warfare,

00:41:29.500 the case Watson versus Republican National Committee challenges a Mississippi law that

00:41:34.740 allows for a grace period for election officials to count ballots postmarked by election day,

00:41:41.280 but arriving up to five business days later. Mississippi Republican Secretary of State

00:41:45.960 Michael Watson and Attorney General Lynn Fitch, whose case pushed the Dobbs case that overturned

00:41:51.520 Roe, are defending Mississippi's law, which passed Mississippi's Republican supermajority

00:41:56.900 legislature by a vote of 118 yeas to one lone dissent. But will the people be damned, at least

00:42:05.300 when it comes to this RNC, backed by the White House and Justice Department, who argue that

00:42:10.120 ballots must be received before the end of Election Day to be counted?

00:42:16.740 Mike Davis, your thoughts on this? I'm a big, hey, it's got to be boom, in, or it doesn't count,

00:42:23.360 but your thoughts on this? So under the elections clause of the U.S. Constitution,

00:42:30.640 these federal elections are decided by state legislatures unless Congress comes in and

00:42:37.060 overrides them with time, place, and manner rules of the road. Congress has done that. Congress

00:42:42.800 has set election day, right? And election day means election day. You need to vote and have your

00:42:51.780 ballots cast and received by election day because we're tired of these games that Democrats play

00:42:59.880 with all-mail ballot elections or absentee ballots where they figure out how many votes

00:43:06.320 they need in Fulton County, Georgia on election day, and then voila, four days later, they have

00:43:12.280 enough votes to to to win the state in georgia it's unacceptable election day means election day

00:43:19.120 this is how they do it in just about every other country around the world except for america they

00:43:24.740 want to play games with our election rules and make it easier for democrats to rig and steal

00:43:31.040 elections and so i hope this is how the culinary this is how the as you know this this this is how

00:43:37.280 the culinary union steals the elections in uh in vegas they see how many votes they're short

00:43:43.600 on election day and magically these things things appear as these mail-in ballots we got to bounce

00:43:49.720 mike uh one question i want the mainstream media's head to blow up today we can use what's happening

00:43:54.700 with these ice helping out uh helping out at the airports we can use this as a test run as a test

00:44:00.720 case to get to really perfect ice's involvement in the 2026 midterm election sir yeah i think

00:44:07.260 think we should have ICE agents at the polling places because if you're an illegal alien, you

00:44:12.760 can't vote, right? It's against the law. It's a federal crime for you to vote in federal elections.

00:44:18.180 And so if you're an American citizen, you should be happy that ICE is there because you're not

00:44:23.220 going to have illegal aliens canceling out your vote. Pick them out of line starting today and

00:44:30.000 maybe the lines get shorter. Mike Davis, where do people go to get you, sir, particularly your

00:44:34.660 social media account article three project.org article number three project.org follow us on

00:44:40.300 social mrd dmia uh take action save act is the most important action item and donate but only

00:44:49.120 what you can afford and thank you steve and the warman posse thank you brother appreciate you

00:44:54.840 uh we're going to come back with the commander-in-chief what he had to say at the sticks

00:45:00.240 before getting on the plane in memphis

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00:46:37.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:46:41.720 Okay, for Morning Joe, specifically for Mika and for the crowd over at MSNBC,

00:46:48.120 uh the ice agents at the airports to help out and remember they said they're not going to work the

00:46:53.420 x-rays it's too complicated they're not trained for it but they're trained to wait for it check

00:46:59.700 ids that's why it's perfect training for the fall of 2026 this is why it's such a brilliant this

00:47:06.020 another 5d chess move for president trump let's get ice into the airports to help out to the lines

00:47:12.000 they can't work the machines you know what they do is walk them down hey we're gonna speed things

00:47:15.060 soon can we check your ids that's what's going to happen in the fall of 26 because folks we're

00:47:20.760 tired of having elections stolen so ice is going to be there in the in the fall of 26 just like

00:47:26.420 they're in the airports today so from the war room suck on that let's go to memphis uh brian

00:47:33.660 glenn brian and by the way brian glenn has has has uh has a shanghaied one of our great producers

00:47:39.060 who will go unnamed as all the producers for the worm is is out there as your cameraman

00:47:43.620 a low value added making you look great when he should be in the war room doing the production

00:47:48.420 but brian i digress glenn brian you're there in memphis why is the president united states

00:47:53.160 going to memphis today the crime rate's already dropped is this because he's going to use this

00:47:57.660 as an example of what he's going to do in the future sir yes sir uh good morning uh i by the

00:48:05.920 way the wait at atlanta tsa late was about four to five hours after blowing about two hours

00:48:13.160 in line going nowhere steve i rented a car and i drove from atlanta to memphis late last night

00:48:20.020 got in here and of course my great cameraman jarvis hold it hang on hang on hang on hang on

00:48:25.800 hang on hang on hang on hang on stop you went to atlanta to try to fly out waited a couple hours

00:48:32.620 said heck with this give me a car i'm gonna drive to the mississippi i'm gonna drive from

00:48:36.980 atlanta georgia to the mississippi river because it'll be quicker well i got to the airport five

00:48:45.020 hours in advance and once i realized i was not moving anywhere uh i just chose to bail the

00:48:50.680 airport take the get a rental car and drive and i will say this the international terminal

00:48:55.040 get this had three tsa agents working the entire international terminal at atl yesterday it's a

00:49:03.220 complete disaster. I would avoid that airport at all costs. Now, here in Memphis, a totally

00:49:07.880 different story. If you're flying out here in Memphis, you'll go maybe eight to ten minutes

00:49:11.620 from the door to on the other side of the TSA security line. Different story here, but in

00:49:17.480 Atlanta, avoid it at all costs. The reason why I'm here is back in September of last year

00:49:24.580 is when he launched this Memphis task force. Let me step aside. I'll give you an idea what the

00:49:29.760 stage looks like behind me. This is a roundtable setup, although it is somewhat looks like a rally,

00:49:36.220 but it's not. It's a roundtable. They'll have some local law enforcement agencies

00:49:40.540 on stage with him. If you look at the numbers, crime overall is down about 43 percent

00:49:46.260 in reduction of total firearms, sees about 1,200 guns, sees 750 plus gang members taken off

00:49:56.000 the streets here in memphis and crime overall the cases uh they don't have to clearance rate

00:50:01.940 is up 65 so they're taking cases off the books here they're closing out some of these open files

00:50:07.800 they're solving crimes taking criminals off the streets carjackings way down as well now the

00:50:12.700 reason why he's here is this has been kind of a blueprint if you will steve of what is to come

00:50:18.420 across this country and you've got a little bit of defiance here democrats in the area congressional

00:50:24.240 Democrat Steve Cohen is saying, well, look, the crime was already going down.

00:50:29.300 There's no need for these additional agents on the streets of Memphis.

00:50:33.320 But the citizens here absolutely feel differently.

00:50:36.600 They support it.

00:50:37.460 I've talked to some of them this morning as I made my way in here.

00:50:41.020 They're glad they're here.

00:50:42.720 And overall, crime is down.

00:50:44.800 That's a good thing.

00:50:45.440 43 percent reduction in crime, Steve.

00:50:49.100 OK, the crime is very important, obviously, and people focus on that.

00:50:51.800 But this whole issue we got now, Mike Allen, people put together a mass deportation coalition because Mark Wayne Mullen sound like he's a little squishy on this.

00:51:00.380 And and actually coming from the White House is that we can't even use the phrase mass deportations again.

00:51:06.280 Is that going to be part of this? Do you do you believe besides crime enforcement and bad hombres is going to be any discussion today of our favorite topic, mass deportations?

00:51:15.820 Because, look, we're all for the Save America Act, but you still got to get them out of the country.

00:51:20.360 You just can't stop them from voting.

00:51:22.160 You've got to get them out of the country.

00:51:23.500 Brian Glenn, your thoughts, sir?

00:51:27.040 Absolutely.

00:51:27.780 Now, I could go over some of the numbers.

00:51:29.580 They've had hundreds of immigrants, illegal immigrants, rounded up and basically sent home.

00:51:35.360 So this is something they're going to ramp up.

00:51:37.160 It's just not taking guns off the street.

00:51:39.280 It's getting rid of criminal and illegal aliens and doing a little bit more of a mass deportation here in Memphis.

00:51:45.420 Absolutely.

00:51:45.780 uh brian what time is just walk us through the logistics of the day what time is the president

00:51:53.580 supposed to arrive real america's voice uh hell uh the dedication of our staff is unbelievable

00:51:59.000 they drove overnight instead of missing it if they waited in atlanta at the airport what is

00:52:04.600 when is the president going to be there as we know now because it always can change and and

00:52:08.940 what time are you going to be up yeah originally this was scheduled for 11 a.m start

00:52:15.700 local time i think that's been pushed to noon local time when central time uh and then after

00:52:22.060 this it lasts about an hour you've got several speakers on stage obviously a part of this round

00:52:27.800 temple forum program lasts around an hour then there's an off the record stop that i'm not at

00:52:33.060 liberty to say on the air but i'll let you i'll text you afterwards after this he is visiting uh

00:52:38.560 a play a very famous place in this area and then making his way back to dc a little bit later this

00:52:44.480 afternoon but we'll have full coverage here which is yes a very famous place in this area

00:52:53.400 i'm going to my home title lock pitch a very famous place in this area brian glenn where do

00:52:59.500 people get your social media to cover you through the day with the president of the states in memphis

00:53:04.960 tennessee one of the great cities in our country on the mississippi i agree i agree you can follow

00:53:10.840 me at brian glenn tv on twitter x rumble uh or getter i should say at brian on true social thanks

00:53:16.900 steve and we'll have anything else that develops here i'll let you guys know uh as it happens

00:53:22.060 thank you brother we'll see you later today that'll probably be one o'clock

00:53:27.000 central time during the charlie kirk show follows us mike lindell joins us a little

00:53:31.080 earlier because we want to make sure we got plenty of time and mike i'm gonna bring you

00:53:34.840 back after the commercial break just give me a 30 seconds on georgia there's a firestorm down

00:53:40.260 And they're still trying to the the bad guys are still trying to get their hands on the ballots.

00:53:44.800 Are our Patriots in Georgia standing in the breach, sir?

00:53:49.340 Absolutely, everybody. I spent two days in Georgia and they're standing in the breach.

00:53:53.640 And and it was amazing. I spoke for three days.

00:53:57.040 I went to the one day over three hours straight.

00:54:00.220 You guys and I had to come back through the Atlanta airport.

00:54:03.460 That was quite a task at three in the morning.

00:54:05.780 But there are fighters down in Georgia and we're going to it's all.

00:54:09.360 There's only one truth, Stephen.

00:54:10.880 It's all coming out.

00:54:11.900 It's amazing.

00:54:13.460 Absolutely amazing.

00:54:14.620 Mike, hang on.

00:54:16.000 I'm going to hold you in for the top of the hour.

00:54:18.100 Mike Lindell.

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Bannon's War Room - March 23, 2026

Episode 5238： Markets Shift As Talks With Iran Begin

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