Bannon's War Room - Episode 5240： Iran Will Not Back Down Anytime Soon; SCOTUS Case Will Determine Midterm Elections

00:00:00.000 from that part of the world i couldn't go negative on crane funding it was time and time was getting

00:00:04.560 censored so i said you know what chris i gotta go goodbye unless you let me do my show i'm gonna

00:00:09.360 leave and that so i just had to play because i think it's funny that that reporter mike carter

00:00:13.520 has been a white house reporter for for three years for three years like who you with i just

00:00:18.800 had to take the shot had to do it had to do it my friends hang on and hang hang on i want to

00:00:24.160 ask you something robin parker sig have they ever come in and said you can't do this you can't do

00:00:29.840 this this is the party line you can only talk about this no sir never never and that's that's

00:00:34.520 really a why i'm here and love it love being here and you know i love having our conversations with

00:00:40.320 with you steve too as well so we had to have a little fun at their expense i guess what can we

00:00:45.380 yeah um before we uh before we bounce on this topic of what do you see developing there's

00:00:52.360 obviously some confusion out there remember president trump's a disruptor i think he's

00:00:57.620 always trying to test the position, right?

00:00:59.920 He's always trying to test the bid.

00:01:02.340 What do you think you see over the next 24 or 48 hours as this plays out,

00:01:08.640 particularly in the oil and gas side?

00:01:10.140 How are the players thinking?

00:01:11.380 I think the players, I'm not sure anyone's realizing this,

00:01:14.140 and I think we are and we've talked about it.

00:01:15.580 I am.

00:01:15.980 I'm not sure if you agree with it.

00:01:16.900 But, you know, when you put something in the corner,

00:01:19.020 whether it's a dog or a rat or whatever you want to call it,

00:01:21.220 you put it in the corner and it fears for its existential life.

00:01:24.000 You can yell at it all you want,

00:01:25.020 But when it's really afraid it's going to die, literally die, it'll do whatever it takes.

00:01:29.360 And now the Iranians know that our biggest Achilles is oil prices higher.

00:01:34.620 If they feel they're going down, Steve, I believe they've already mined their own oil infrastructures to blow them up.

00:01:40.440 If they're going down, they're going to take that with them and stick it right up, you know, America's backside, so to speak.

00:01:49.520 Where do people go for your new podcast, your show here and also your social media, sir?

00:01:55.020 I, uh, the edge, but you know what? I, I love it here.

00:01:57.980 You guys come tune in four o'clock in real America's voice and just watch us

00:02:01.180 hang and, and throw it to Stephen K. Bannon. Cause, uh, like I said,

00:02:04.540 you watch the war room, you, you leave smarter than when you entered it.

00:02:07.940 So Steve, appreciate you and take it away, my friend.

00:02:10.860 And by the way, I'll see you in CPAC in Dallas or wherever that CPAC is this

00:02:15.300 year.

00:02:16.080 We're having a great time. It's in great fun, but that's good.

00:02:19.820 Close enough. You'll get there. We'll get you there. Eric Bowling.

00:02:22.800 thank you sir to take eric bowling's analogy which i think is very powerful it's i think the

00:02:29.760 intelligence is trying to think through is the iranian regime and what's left of it is a cornered

00:02:35.500 rat a cornered rabid dog or cornered grizzly that is going to have quite an impact over this i think

00:02:42.900 tumultuous week here's what we want to do we're now in the war room i want to play the cold open

00:02:48.380 And I've got Sam Faddis. He's going to join us. Really amazing show today, the five and six o'clock hour.

00:02:54.220 Let's go ahead and let it rip. Well, look, firstly, I think tonight, Katie, the Gulf states will be breathing a sigh of relief for now,

00:03:01.020 because, of course, the president backing climbing down on his ultimatum, meaning that it seems for now Iran won't retaliate to any U.S.

00:03:11.960 attacks on power plants, like we've seen them hit energy facilities across this region before,

00:03:17.660 as Eamon mentioned. So yeah, breathing a sigh of relief tonight. But there is still a lot of anger

00:03:24.460 amongst the Gulf countries, particularly here, the UAE, over in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain

00:03:31.800 as well. They're all on a bit of a different page to Oman, I think it has to be said. And they're

00:03:37.520 angry because all along, ever since this conflict began, it seems that the US and Israel hasn't

00:03:43.920 really been informing the Gulf nations of their strategy, of the moves that they're making. And

00:03:51.400 actually, some kind of Gulf analysts believe that the US and Israel are kind of making it up as they

00:03:56.700 go along. So there is an element of anger there. But also, there's huge concern as well, because

00:04:02.320 If what the president is saying, that this is coming to a close and that this war is pretty much over and the U.S. can leave, even though there are still thousands of troops on the way here, well, it would leave the Gulf pretty much stranded because not far away, you've got a very dangerous neighbor in Iran who've got the capabilities of launching ballistic missiles and dozens and dozens of drones, as they have been doing, into the likes of the UAE.

00:04:29.540 And they could do that whenever they want to, wherever they want to as well.

00:04:33.700 So what the countries like the UAE and the Gulf are suggesting to America is that you've got to stay here.

00:04:39.180 You've got to finish the job. And also, if there are any negotiations and the Gulf countries need to be involved in those negotiations,

00:04:47.120 because at the end of the day, this conflict will hamper them more so.

00:04:50.500 We've seen the economic effects already that is happening, that is having on these countries.

00:04:54.880 We see the damage and destruction that's happened to infrastructure, civilian infrastructure

00:05:00.660 in these countries as well.

00:05:02.620 So they will very much want a seat at that negotiation table.

00:05:07.040 At the same time, I talked with our friend, President Trump.

00:05:10.160 President Trump believes that there is a chance to manage the great achievements of the army

00:05:15.260 and the United States to implement the fight against an agreement, an agreement that will

00:05:20.100 And then unfortunately, I called Pete, I called General Cain, I called a lot of our great

00:05:38.920 people.

00:05:39.920 We have great people and I said, let's talk, we got a problem in the Middle East, we have

00:05:45.920 Iran, that for 47 years has been just a purveyor of terror, and they're very close to having

00:05:52.800 a nuclear weapon. We can keep going and get that 50,000 up to 55 and 60. There's no end.

00:06:00.540 Or we can take a stop and make a little journey into the Middle East and eliminate a big problem.

00:06:07.560 And, Pete, I think you were the first one to speak up. And you said, let's do it,

00:06:12.060 Because you can't let them have a nuclear weapon.

00:06:15.580 So we are now having really good discussions.

00:06:18.580 They started last night, a little bit, the night before that.

00:06:26.060 Operation Epic Fury, I love that name.

00:06:29.200 And it's very appropriate for what's taking place, if you know, in Iran.

00:06:34.300 Because we knocked out their Navy.

00:06:36.520 We knocked out their Air Force.

00:06:37.960 We knocked out their anti-aircraft.

00:06:40.060 We knocked out everything.

00:06:42.060 and we did it with fury actually as i announced earlier based on preliminary conversations

00:06:48.220 between the united states and iran over the past two days i've directed the department of war to

00:06:54.140 temporarily postpone planned strikes against major energy and electricity targets in iran they have

00:07:02.060 very very big new actually and very expensive billions of dollars it cost to build them one

00:07:06.940 missile one of our powerful ones and it comes down to the ground like it was made out of dust

00:07:14.300 but to determine whether a broader agreement can be reached we've had very good discussions

00:07:19.260 very very good discussions and you have to understand i know my whole life has been a

00:07:24.060 negotiation but with iran we've been negotiating for a long time and this time they mean business

00:07:30.380 and it's only because of the great job that our military did

00:07:35.240 is the reason they mean business.

00:07:37.200 They want to settle and we're going to get it done, I hope.

00:07:40.520 As far as the officials are concerned,

00:07:42.400 we had a couple of interviews with foreign ministry spokesman

00:07:45.920 and a diplomat and sort of tying into what we're hearing today

00:07:48.520 from Donald Trump, there was a real reluctance

00:07:50.920 amongst the Iranian officials to get drawn into diplomacy.

00:07:54.040 What they say is they feel that they have been hoodwinked

00:07:56.940 by the Americans twice using diplomacy as a kind of masquerade, a kind of charade during which

00:08:03.620 Americans, they say, were preparing to attack them and then did attack them when talks were

00:08:08.280 underway. And they would be very reluctant to get drawn into further diplomacy, which I think

00:08:13.580 makes me fairly skeptical about what we're hearing from the American president today.

00:08:17.620 While Iran is saying that there are no talks, Trump is saying that there are. And he said

00:08:23.060 there's 15 points of agreement with Iran, including that Tehran commits to not having a nuclear weapon

00:08:29.360 and also this idea of enriched uranium that the U.S. would take possession of. So talk to us about

00:08:35.600 that. Where is most of that held? And what are the challenges in securing that? Yeah. So there

00:08:40.160 are a lot of challenges to that, Brianna. And where most of it is held is basically in several

00:08:45.020 places here. We have Datans, which is one of the enrichment facilities. You have Fordo, another

00:08:49.640 enrichment facility. And then the rest of them here, Tehran, Arak, Isfahan, those are all research

00:08:55.620 facilities. So the theory is, is that a lot of that enriched uranium that we have is probably

00:09:00.800 held in Isfahan. However, there is the distinct possibility that among those 970 or so pounds of

00:09:08.000 enriched uranium, that they have been dispersed, that those scuba tank size containers of the

00:09:14.460 enriched uranium have been dispersed throughout at least some of these areas and perhaps in other

00:09:18.720 areas throughout Iran, so that is a very difficult problem.

00:09:22.040 Now Iran has one more opportunity to end its threats to America and her allies, and we

00:09:28.280 hope they take it.

00:09:29.920 Either way, America and the entire world will soon be much safer.

00:09:33.160 The work that President Trump is doing, not only in Memphis, not only in Washington, D.C.,

00:09:38.340 but all over the country, ultimately it will save, and is saving, tens of thousands of American

00:09:44.960 lives.

00:09:45.960 And I'll use that word again.

00:09:47.420 What President Trump has done on border security

00:09:50.140 and public safety is a national miracle that

00:09:54.140 will be studied not only for generations, but for

00:09:56.640 centuries to come.

00:09:57.640 Thank you, President Trump.

00:09:58.640 The President, thank you, Steve.

00:10:04.720 So, Cash, see if you can top that.

00:10:07.580 I don't know.

00:10:09.920 That's a tough one, Cash.

00:10:11.020 The President, that is tough.

00:10:12.780 You know, Mr. President, as I look around this

00:10:15.020 venue, I see and I'm reminded again why we have the greatest warriors on God's green earth, the men

00:10:20.100 and women serving in uniform, the men and women serving and wearing the badge, and law enforcement,

00:10:24.460 our police, our sheriffs around the state of Tennessee. I'm reminded that Americans exist to

00:10:29.520 protect this country day in and day out, and they've done it like we've done it here. But what

00:10:33.420 we didn't have was you. We didn't have a commander-in-chief who backed the blue, who resourced

00:10:38.040 the blue, who funded the military, who did whatever it takes to safeguard every single life. And here

00:10:43.500 in Memphis, Tennessee, you have put on a show for the world. You have allowed us to go out there

00:10:48.400 and capture gangbangers, rapists, murderers, drug dealers at record historic levels. And for me,

00:10:55.240 a first-generation Indian-American kid whose parents fled a genocide in East Africa to become

00:11:00.100 the ninth director of the FBI, I'm living the wildest dream you could possibly imagine, sir,

00:11:04.040 but it's thanks to you. But more importantly, what I see when I look out across our great partners

00:11:08.260 here in the interagency and our great legislatures and our great prosecutors and our great attorney

00:11:12.760 General who has the guts to go out there and make arrests, turn them into prosecutions and put

00:11:16.600 people in prison. You are giving that dream to every single child in the state of Tennessee.

00:11:22.580 You are inspiring the nation and law enforcement to come up and wear the badge and wear the colors

00:11:27.540 of this country and safeguard our men and women for generations to come. This is an enduring

00:11:32.880 mission, Mr. President, because you have made it enduring. It is going to go on for generations

00:11:38.000 to come. They are going to try to achieve what you accomplished here, what Stephen said in just

00:11:42.000 one short year and they're going to be doing it for decades because America was smart enough to

00:11:46.340 elect you as our commander-in-chief. So while we're out there fighting for the dreams of our

00:11:50.480 children, just know, Mr. President, how many millions of dreams like mine are going to be

00:11:55.260 lived thanks to your brilliant leadership. Mr. President, thanks for delivering America the

00:11:59.320 safest, safest, safest country on God's green earth.

00:12:12.620 I'm always on everybody else about being muted. Welcome. It is Monday, 23 March, year of

00:12:17.480 Lord, 2026. You're here for the late afternoon, early evening edition. I want to thank that

00:12:22.080 was a magnificent cold open. We've got so much more to do. I will have a comment after

00:12:26.520 the break. Sam Fett is going to join us about converging all these forces of law enforcement

00:12:31.640 and bringing down the crime rate in these big blue Democrat sanctuary cities, which

00:12:35.780 I think is terrific because every human life matters and particularly working class African

00:12:40.060 Americans, whites, and Hispanics in these cities living in hell holes. They deserve to live

00:12:44.920 correctly. But let's not forget about the mass deportations. Let's get the mass deportations.

00:12:52.360 Stephen Miller, love you, brother, but mass deportations, that's the key word,

00:12:56.580 mass deportation, not just bad hombres. I also want to read something before we go to break.

00:13:01.620 From America's Greatest Ally, this is the translation from Hebrew to Saul of Netanyahu,

00:13:07.580 And I'm quoting,

00:13:08.420 Earlier today I spoke with our friend President Trump.

00:13:11.600 Okay, let me add some editorial comment.

00:13:15.080 Whether he's your friend or not is not relevant.

00:13:17.400 He's your ally, and he's the chief ally here,

00:13:19.580 and you don't mention that the entire time.

00:13:22.020 You don't say earlier today I spoke with our ally, President Trump,

00:13:24.600 or the senior member of this coalition, President Trump.

00:13:26.940 You say our friend, President Trump.

00:13:28.740 President Trump believes there is a chance to leverage

00:13:30.740 the tremendous achievements we have made with the U.S. military

00:13:34.040 to realize the war's goals of the agreement,

00:13:37.520 an agreement that will safeguard our vital interests.

00:13:39.380 At the same time, we continue to attack both Iran and Lebanon.

00:13:42.100 We are crushing the Muslim program and the nuclear program,

00:13:44.820 and we continue to severely harm Hezbollah.

00:13:47.520 Just a few days ago, we eliminated two more nuclear scientists,

00:13:50.760 and the hand is still outstretched.

00:13:52.940 We will protect our vital interests in any situation.

00:13:55.820 Yes, Israel should protect their vital national security interests,

00:14:00.400 as every nation in the world should do.

00:14:03.200 But as an ally in this, I think when President Trump says, hey, look, I think we've got to try to figure something out or at least let me find out if either through the Pakistanis or the Turks with the corner, either rat, rabbit dogs or grizzlies, we can get somewhere.

00:14:21.160 I would think you just give us cheery eye and a salute and say, OK, we'll stand down like you're going to stand down.

00:14:27.120 They're not allies and they're certainly not the world's greatest allies and they've never been America's greatest ally.

00:14:32.580 It's actually disgusting that they're going to continue to carry this war.

00:14:36.260 And, of course, the Iranians came back and said, hey, we're prepared to continue to fight it.

00:14:42.440 President Trump has put this entire thing on his shoulders, including the risk, to his presidency and the nation and his legacy.

00:14:50.760 Give him a chance to try to work through this.

00:14:53.460 Short commercial break.

00:14:55.380 We're going to return to the war room.

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00:17:16.600 mean to go negative on yet now but it does upset me that they're an ally that does their own thing

00:17:22.900 at the worst possible times i just don't know how and if marco rubio or pete approved this

00:17:28.760 then i think they you know and marco rubio has been in the witness protection program

00:17:33.760 um you know he ought to come up and just kind of walk through why we have an ally that said

00:17:38.820 they're going to continue the bombing and iran says bring it because you know iran and the

00:17:43.740 israelis hate each other so they're going to go at it where president trump is either going through

00:17:47.040 the pakistanis or through the turks and dealing with this guy or dealing with that guy to try

00:17:51.820 to come up some resolution one thing i think is important only the intel community which has been

00:17:56.980 with the joe kent situation really under the spotlight as they should be is this a cornered

00:18:03.260 rat is it a cornered rabid dog is a cornered grizzly sir

00:18:08.220 yeah it's like a cornered grizzly wearing a suicide vest right that's what you've

00:18:14.580 what you've got here these i mean the war i mean obviously i'm painting with a really broad brush

00:18:21.540 years. We're attacking the Iranians. The Israelis are attacking the Iranians. The Iranians aren't

00:18:26.300 really fighting us. I mean, they are firing at American troops, and unfortunately, we've taken

00:18:33.160 some casualties. But we attack them, and increasingly, their response is, well, we're

00:18:38.580 going to sink an oil tanker, or now we're going to blow up a desalinization plant, or we're going

00:18:44.180 to blow up an oil production facility. I mean, we're all going to hell together. If you guys

00:18:51.220 want to keep at this. We're just going to burn the place down. And let's keep in mind at the

00:18:58.220 top of this, you got a bunch of guys who, they're 12ers. They believe this is the end of times

00:19:03.520 and they win on the other side of the apocalypse. And in fact, it is their duty,

00:19:08.940 their requirement to bring on the apocalypse. That's the only way you get

00:19:12.840 to nirvana, if you will. I'm mixing a bunch of metaphors there, but I think you get the point.

00:19:17.720 They, they, they are serious when they say that they, they will do this and we've already seen that. So that's, that's, that's the quandary.

00:19:28.460 Hang on. And you, and you work the case file in country or around the region with this as your, as your mandate to figure this thing out and work with people. So it's not like you're reading some book and you were actually there, saw it up close and personal, correct?

00:19:44.000 Yeah, 100%. And I recruited a whole bunch of and ran a whole bunch of Iranian sources,

00:19:50.860 including guys at very senior levels. So I'm not talking to you about something somebody told me

00:19:55.820 once in a bar. I'm telling you what I know from being face to face with these guys. Now,

00:20:00.640 that doesn't mean that every Persian is off in crazy land like this. But the guys at the top

00:20:06.800 who are in control of this, they are 100% committed to this. So when they say we'll burn

00:20:14.140 the whole frigging Persian Gulf to the ground, you better believe them. Doesn't mean you have

00:20:20.060 to let them. I'm just saying you better assume that that is not an idle threat. That's real.

00:20:29.340 What, as you see the president working through this and, and, and walk people through when

00:20:34.360 you're using various he's very close you should know to the field marshal in charge of the

00:20:39.880 pakistan army i know he's had that that individual to lunch at the white house uh he spent a lot of

00:20:45.760 time with him he's also whether people like it or not he's very close to erdogan and thinks very

00:20:50.260 highly erdogan i know that doesn't set well with some folks but that's just a reality so he he's

00:20:55.440 working both he's working erdogan and that's the wit looks like the whitkoff jared angle he's also

00:21:00.700 working, the Pakistani guy that I think came to him with the Speaker of the House, whatever that

00:21:05.840 means. When you're doing this in real time and you've got weapons flying back and forth with

00:21:13.720 each other, how difficult is what the president's trying to accomplish right now? Yeah, it's

00:21:19.360 incredibly difficult. Look, one of the things we've been talking about is one of the challenges

00:21:23.520 in fighting the Iranians is that they've moved to this decentralized command structure, right?

00:21:28.520 you can cut off the head of the snake it doesn't matter the thing keeps the thing keeps fighting

00:21:33.540 okay well that that allows them to be resilient continue to fight and resist our tactics but it

00:21:39.760 also means okay now you're trying to get now you're acting them to act as an entity with a

00:21:47.540 single head subject to a central control when in fact they're not actually acting like that right

00:21:54.460 So to start with, you could be talking to somebody in Iran and he could be legitimately trying to negotiate peace and somebody else could be going on broadcast right now saying, we have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

00:22:06.840 There are no discussions ongoing.

00:22:08.920 And actually, both of those things could be true simultaneously.

00:22:13.560 Really, really hard.

00:22:14.600 Look, Erdogan obviously has his challenges, but bottom line is we've got to find somebody who can bridge the gap here, somebody who can talk to both camps.

00:22:27.660 If I had a preference, I would choose the Pakistanis, not that they've been without issues in the past, but I think they are better.

00:22:35.960 I don't know where those talks stand.

00:22:37.960 I've been all day trying to figure that out.

00:22:40.240 There seems to be a lot of confusion in Pakistan as to whether there are or are not back-channel negotiations going on.

00:22:50.260 With CENTCOM, Admiral Cooper, they have their own intelligence group, obviously.

00:22:54.320 Joint staff has their own.

00:22:55.760 You've got the CIA.

00:22:57.080 You've got DNI.

00:22:58.280 Just at this level, what are the type of briefings that are going on for the president?

00:23:03.260 As he said, and he wasn't very clear because he didn't really say we're going to take a stand down from the military side, but that is kind of the implication.

00:23:10.240 right? What are the briefings that are going on right now? And how are they providing information

00:23:16.320 to the commander-in-chief so he can both oversee the war and try to get to some sort of peaceful

00:23:21.140 resolution? Well, he's going to be getting briefings not just on sort of, I was going to

00:23:27.680 say tactical, that's the inappropriate term, not just the operational aspects of the conflict.

00:23:32.740 But now we're deep into the weeds of personalities. What is so-and-so in Iran or in Pakistan actually doing? What did they say after they got off the phone with you? This kind of thing, right?

00:23:46.860 This is where CIA ought to be earning its pay because, you know, you can't see what's going on inside somebody's head in Iran or in Pakistan off of a satellite.

00:23:59.300 And they're probably not talking over an open line where you could hear them either.

00:24:03.380 And this is when you really get down to the value of human intelligence having those penetrations.

00:24:08.460 And unfortunately, I mean, you know my position on that.

00:24:13.040 We are not well placed.

00:24:15.260 I mean, we do not, we don't have the human intelligence collection capability we need to have, because this is really critical.

00:24:23.240 When you get off the phone and the guy told you such and such on the phone, what the heck did he say to his senior aides in the room after he got off the phone?

00:24:31.080 That's the critical stuff.

00:24:32.160 And if you don't have that, you're guessing.

00:24:34.320 And the president is obviously really good at negotiations and reading people, but it doesn't change the fact that it would be better to know for sure.

00:24:41.760 the president we may get the president at the sticks in a moment so we're going to jump what

00:24:48.400 we do uh sam you know i don't seem like i'm um i'm i'm picking on netanyahu or singling him out

00:24:54.340 because i'm not a big fan of the arab allies either you know the region uh as eric and i

00:24:59.740 talk all the time we have we have regional partners we're trying to defend their all

00:25:04.320 assets and they're pretty quick on the trigger to go force majeure i think iraq went a force

00:25:08.560 majority last night to kind of get out of the contracts. They're selling it at 55 bucks a

00:25:13.060 barrel and now renegotiate at 120. Our allies are economically incentivized as long as their

00:25:20.560 infrastructure doesn't get crushed and the desalination plants don't get crushed to have

00:25:25.000 this thing go on for a while so that they can sell it at three X of what they've sold it for

00:25:30.880 us. And President Trump's full spectrum energy dominance was going to have it at $40 a barrel.

00:25:34.880 your thoughts on our arab ally sir look they're going to do what all our allies do steve they're

00:25:42.240 going to take care of themselves first and foremost and as long as you deal with them on that

00:25:46.780 assumption and with that understanding and that we also should do take care of ourselves first

00:25:53.660 then we're all good to go but when we start getting into this business where we think

00:25:57.840 just because we call them allies means we can trust them fully or they're not going to put

00:26:03.340 themselves ahead of us, then you're setting yourselves up for a fall. I mean, that goes

00:26:07.040 for the Israelis, that goes for the Arabs. I never had any problem with them because when they shove

00:26:11.540 you, you just knock them back a few feet and let them remember who is really in charge and who's

00:26:18.200 the big dog in the relationship, and then we're all good. But man, if you're just going to trust

00:26:22.540 them, they're going to take you to the cleaners. Fantastic. Do I have enough time? Let's go and

00:26:30.220 play the okay hang on we'll do it after the break uh sam what i want to do is uh is change hats when

00:26:36.940 we come back i want to play a uh audio from the supreme court hearing today on on mail-in ballots

00:26:43.160 and because you're one of the grassroots leaders in pennsylvania last thing before i let you go on

00:26:47.400 this topic uh president trump said hey look i'm i'm i'm given an ultimatum we're going to take

00:26:53.600 care of what we got to take care we're going to meet our military objectives and we're out of here

00:26:57.300 Japan and NATO, you guys take the Hormuz. I heard a lot of people on the weekend come to a big

00:27:02.980 surprise that the NATO navies are not actually capable of that. Why would that come as a surprise

00:27:09.820 to people, sir? I don't have any idea why it would come as a surprise to people. I mean,

00:27:16.120 obviously they're not capable of doing it. I mean, that's the reality. You can ask them to

00:27:22.940 produce to do all kinds of things but the fact of the matter is they do not have that capacity

00:27:28.800 that I mean like the Europeans right what do what do they do they talk a lot in the end it's the

00:27:35.040 United States is going to have to do the heavy lifting amen that is the lesson I think folks

00:27:41.960 of the 21st century kind of the lesson of the 20th century too but we didn't take it there's a lot of

00:27:48.120 talk going on a lot of people run around but at the end of the day it's sailors soldiers marines

00:27:53.520 is those 18 19 20 year old 21 year old young officers young non-commissioned officers that

00:28:00.940 are making this happen it's on their shoulders that all rests always remember that the shoulders

00:28:05.440 of young american citizens of this country short break sam faddis in the supreme court

00:28:11.920 mail-in ballots baby one of our favorite topics up in pennsylvania next in the war room

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00:29:37.620 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:43.080 Okay. Tim Estes, chairman of the Alliance for a Better Future, a major new group of conservatives, an alliance coalition about artificial intelligence. The cavalry has finally arrived. He's going to join us here momentarily. I still got Sam.

00:29:57.320 Mark Elias picked up what we said this morning. Mark Elias, Steve Bannon suggested that President Trump deploy immigration and customs enforcement agents to major U.S. airports as part of a test run for using them to meddle in the upcoming elections.

00:30:11.240 All I said was, hey, they can't work the machine, so they're just going to be checking IDs.

00:30:15.960 Maybe this could be a practice run.

00:30:17.440 And guess what?

00:30:18.260 CNN's telling me we'll get a clip for you in the 6 o'clock hour.

00:30:21.200 As you know, Brian Glenn stayed two hours in line and didn't move an inch at Atlanta Airport last night.

00:30:28.140 He then got a car with one of our producer cameramen and drove to the Mississippi River from Georgia to be there today to cover President Trump, his visit to Memphis.

00:30:39.220 so uh and now cnn's reporting is moving 40 minutes i don't know if that's ice

00:30:43.960 but they must be checking ids something's moving in atlanta because that thing was a mess it was a

00:30:49.920 three to five hour mess something's moving sam fattis i'm asking you to put your other hat on

00:30:56.040 as a grassroots leader with the great patriots and commonwealth of pennsylvania which wait for

00:31:01.000 it mail-in ballots were kind of a big deal in 2020 it's at the supreme tour today i want to

00:31:06.400 play a cut and then bring you in, sir. Mississippi insists that ballots can trickle in days or even

00:31:13.680 weeks after Election Day. That position is wrong as a matter of text, precedent, history, and

00:31:20.000 common sense. Mississippi all but concedes that the original public meaning of election

00:31:25.480 included both offering to vote and the receipt of that vote or ballot by election officials.

00:31:31.700 We have lots of phrases that involve two words, the last of which, the second of which is day.

00:31:40.960 Labor Day, Memorial Day, George Washington's birthday, Independence Day, birthday, and election day.

00:31:49.820 And they're all particular days.

00:31:52.980 So if we start with that, if I have nothing more to look at than the phrase Election Day, I think this is the day in which everything is going to take place, or almost everything.

00:32:06.400 And then we have three points in time, 1844, 1872, 1914.

00:32:13.840 And we can ask, what would people have thought on those days is meant by this phrase Election Day?

00:32:19.240 Which of those should we choose?

00:32:21.440 Which of those dates should we choose?

00:32:24.220 Well, I think you could choose any of the three.

00:32:27.620 I mean, honestly, I think the single best one, if you're just going to choose one, is 1872.

00:32:32.200 And the reason I say that is because 1914 is the latest in time, but that's the one that Congress gave the least thought to.

00:32:38.980 We are understanding that the argument is not going so well so far for Mississippi.

00:32:43.140 And that could have really wide ranging consequences for the midterm elections, because Mississippi is one of 18 states and territories that similarly have a grace period for ballots that are marked by Election Day, meaning postmarked by Election Day, cast by Election Day, but are counted thereafter.

00:32:59.260 That could also have really broad consequences for members of the military, for example, who are subject to their own federal statute.

00:33:06.180 And as we were coming to camera, one of the liberal justices was questioning Paul Clement about that statute and how he would square that with the statute that he is arguing forecloses Mississippi from extending that grace period to folks who are voting by mail.

00:33:21.500 Is the law very clear in terms of when ballots have to arrive?

00:33:25.980 I would say on its face, no.

00:33:28.160 And that's why they're talking about the original public meaning of the word election.

00:33:31.840 There is nothing in the federal law that says that states may not count ballots received after Election Day if they are cast by Election Day.

00:33:40.500 What this all turns on is whose definition of election counts here and what are they going to use to sort of import into that definition of election.

00:33:49.880 We're going to look at legislative history. Are we going to look at at the founding? What did an election mean?

00:33:55.060 Those are all sorts of arguments that the justices are playing with this morning.

00:33:58.880 But one of the things that the conservative justices are really interested in pressing on is what happens if somebody wants to recall their mail-in vote?

00:34:06.940 That's a way of their trying to demonstrate that a vote is not finalized when it's cast.

00:34:12.720 It's not finalized until it's counted.

00:34:15.340 And therefore, Election Day has to mean Election Day, that a vote that's not counted until afterwards isn't, in fact, part of the election.

00:34:23.420 sam you're not a lawyer and you're certainly not an election lawyer and you saw the searing

00:34:30.260 logic of uh of justice alito there and that's why even it's however old he is i hope he doesn't

00:34:36.760 retire we just need that guy i feel um but mail-in ballots and particularly when they arrive

00:34:43.520 and how they're counted and all that had a pretty big impact in the commonwealth of pennsylvania so

00:34:48.580 what what do you what do you and the grassroots leaders up there think about this whole thing

00:34:52.900 of mail-in ballots and like, when did they have to arrive to actually count, sir?

00:34:59.820 Well, look, the whole thing is very simple, Steve. You don't get to show up at the polls

00:35:06.140 after they're closed and cast a vote. It's not that big a challenge for you to vote before the

00:35:14.260 polls are closed, to get your vote in by the end of election day. Now you can show up in person

00:35:19.700 or you can mail it in advance.

00:35:22.320 What this amounts to is cover for effectively this.

00:35:27.860 I'll give you this analogy.

00:35:29.980 It's like you got a football game and you come to the fourth quarter

00:35:32.720 and the game is over, and then one team just wants to go out on the field

00:35:36.380 and keep kicking field goals until they win the game, right?

00:35:40.880 That's absurd, but that is where we have ended up.

00:35:44.940 Look, in 2020, to tell you how crazy this got,

00:35:49.700 We had a federal judge at one point who intervened and said, because I'm worried about ballots taking too long to get to be counted, I'm telling you to bypass the processing facilities, U.S. Postal Service, deliver ballots directly from the mailbox to where they're counted.

00:36:14.820 So when you bypass the processing facility, that means, of course, there's no postmark.

00:36:20.580 Literally take the envelope and it goes to be counted.

00:36:23.380 And this happened all over Pennsylvania.

00:36:26.340 OK, now we got ballots and we actually have no evidence of any kind to tell us when they were when they were cast.

00:36:37.280 And yet they were counted in vast numbers.

00:36:40.080 I mean, the solution to everything with an election is let's just let's just stop with the complication and the obfuscation.

00:36:47.980 Let's just let's be very straightforward here, have very clear black and white rules.

00:36:54.260 Very simple. Everybody plays by the same rules and we see who wins.

00:36:59.860 Sam, you've got a thing up on your sub stack.

00:37:02.400 I want people to go to the AM Magazine because I really was going to have you on here today to talk about there was, I think, 70 to 100 drones over St. Petersburg in Russia last night that were shot down, taken down by the Russian military.

00:37:17.640 As you say, drones have changed everything.

00:37:19.700 I'm going to have you on in the next couple of days when we free up to do that.

00:37:21.940 But where do people go to get your content, particularly your Substack and your social media, sir?

00:37:27.740 Go to Substack, a-and-magazine, and magazine.substack.com.

00:37:32.240 that'll get you to wherever we are. Read the piece on drones. Uh, you'll understand what

00:37:39.660 president Trump is dealing with and why it's not like when I was in the Persian Gulf and my kid

00:37:45.300 brother back, he was 86, 87. I was 79, 80. It's much more complicated and much more deadly today.

00:37:51.560 And a big reason for that is these drones. Uh, Sam, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

00:37:55.960 absolutely escorting escorting escorting tankers not quite as easy as people think it is not today

00:38:02.460 okay folks we are dealing with a war we have massive financial and economic problems president

00:38:11.200 trump and scott benson trying to get to uh we've got issues with voting and sovereignty and mass

00:38:17.260 deportation of 25 million people i mean the problems the country faces today both externally

00:38:22.540 and eternally are some of the biggest problems the nation this republic's ever had to deal with

00:38:26.660 and of course on here every day we try to bring the best minds forward to talk about it

00:38:32.680 but given all that kind of behind the scenes in the imperial capital in washington dc there's a

00:38:39.960 knife fight on issues that really deal with the future of our species and that is all this about

00:38:46.520 artificial intelligence and the race to the singularity and transhumanism and all of it

00:38:50.620 And Tim Estes joins us now. He's chairman of the Alliance for a Better Future.

00:38:57.100 These folks, which are a collection of conservatives, have been in this fight from the beginning, behind the scenes.

00:39:03.140 But, Tim, I guess today you guys are coming forward and say, hey, look, not only have we been in the fight,

00:39:08.780 we're going to be at the forefront of this fight to make sure that this thing is sorted out.

00:39:13.820 Just walk us through, what is the fight? What is your alliance?

00:39:17.620 And where are you guys trying to drive this, sir?

00:39:20.620 Yeah, well, Steve, first of all, thanks for having me on. I've been on once before with Joe,

00:39:26.620 who's wonderful. And I think we have been in this fight behind the scenes. As you mentioned,

00:39:31.980 we're the Alliance for a Better Future. We are conservatives. We are Christians. We are parents.

00:39:37.460 We are backed by a majority of conservative and lifelong Republicans. We have nine amazing

00:39:43.000 conservative organizations that have members driving this policy. These are pro-family,

00:39:47.860 pro-American groups that had been working tirelessly going back to kids online safety

00:39:54.040 efforts and then through all the AI battles last year. And we believe that at the foundation

00:39:59.880 of our AI policy needs to be human dignity, needs to be looking at how these things impact kids,

00:40:08.000 impact families, impact jobs. And we believe we can do that in a conservative market oriented way.

00:40:14.320 But that is not amnesty, right?

00:40:17.220 We've been fighting that for the last 18 months, and we are now becoming more public so we

00:40:23.280 can fight that here in this year when the policy is potentially going to be set.

00:40:27.940 So we believe the president has laid out a solid initial framework, which is still pretty

00:40:34.500 sparse.

00:40:35.620 And the devil is in the details, and the details are everything.

00:40:38.900 And right now, too many of the details in some of these bills that might be part of

00:40:42.240 are clearly written by tech lobbyists as giant giveaways using certain legal tricks to avoid

00:40:48.620 liability and accountability at a time when we need accountability from these are the wealthiest

00:40:53.540 companies in the world. Many actually have deep supply chain ties to China. And we do not believe

00:41:00.060 that kowtowing to them and turning them like trust fund kids is the way you manage them.

00:41:04.660 how you've got a who's who in this folks remember these guys have been behind the scenes fighting

00:41:14.500 this as hard as anybody uh and we've had some great victories we pulled the two amnesties we

00:41:19.880 defeated the one collectively we defeated the one in the big beautiful bill and then we've

00:41:24.440 defeated it in the ndaa and now they've got you know president trump's on an executive order and

00:41:28.960 look, President Trump understands we must be dominant in this technology vis-a-vis the Chinese

00:41:35.340 Communist Party. Now, I don't happen to believe the tech guys are helping out here in the Chinese

00:41:39.160 Communist Party on either the ecosystem of training or universities or particularly chips and all that,

00:41:44.540 but that's a topic we have to stop that. That's inextricably linked, but a little bit separate.

00:41:50.000 But behind the scenes, you've been fighting, and now you have a who's who, and I'm going to hold

00:41:53.240 you through the break so we get to like a minute or so left. You have a who's who of conservative

00:41:58.780 groups that have been at the forefront of this whole thing about the family and getting birth

00:42:03.060 rates up and the economics of the family and how the United States, the basic unit, as Burke told

00:42:09.580 us, is the family. But you've got APP with Terry Schilling, you've got Heritage, yourself, you've

00:42:15.260 got some, you know, nothing but hitters. But you guys are literally David versus the biggest Goliath

00:42:21.800 we've ever had. I mean, they've got every lobbyist, they have every crisis communication, they have

00:42:25.980 unlimited money. Their wealth creation is unbelievable. In a minute, and I'll hold you

00:42:30.620 through, how does David expect to take on Goliath? Well, in short, if you have God on your side and

00:42:40.740 you have the American people on your side, you can win. And we do. So that's how we're going to

00:42:45.800 beat them. It's not the amount of money. No amount of money can take a lie this big and make it true

00:42:51.720 if there are voices speaking the truth to it.

00:42:53.980 And we're going to make sure there's enough investment going in

00:42:57.300 and getting the truth out to make sure that this national policy

00:43:01.000 lands in a place we can be proud of

00:43:03.020 and that states can still protect their citizens in all kinds of ways.

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00:45:09.120 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:45:14.800 Tim Estes is with us.

00:45:16.040 So, Tim, you've put together a coalition or an alliance with the with kind of the best groups that have traditionally fought for the family, fought for children, et cetera.

00:45:27.300 What is going to be the lead of what you guys fight for against this Goliath?

00:45:34.100 Well, I think, first of all, we want to bring attention to who's on the other side.

00:45:38.480 You know, people get out there and talk about how we can't regulate AI or we'll lose to China.

00:45:44.360 And the people that are doing this, when they talk about the kind of regulations that we're advocating for, these are companies like Meta, right?

00:45:53.160 Meta, it came out, had a 17-strike rule on sex offenders on their platforms.

00:45:59.820 They got reported 16 times, and they let the people stay on going after children.

00:46:04.600 Okay?

00:46:05.040 That's one of them.

00:46:05.840 Another one, Andreessen Horowitz, major backer, major backer of these super PACs that are going in, parachuting in.

00:46:15.260 They are the ones, you had Megan Garcia on your show not too long ago, didn't you, Steve?

00:46:19.080 Wonderful, amazing woman, lost her child.

00:46:23.340 Andreessen Horowitz is $100 million that's funded those sexually abusing chatbots.

00:46:28.420 Okay?

00:46:29.920 Open AI.

00:46:32.400 Woke.

00:46:33.780 They have the former Clinton political assassin, Chris Lehane, who invented the vast right-wing

00:46:40.080 conspiracy driving their policy, and Republicans are taking advice from this.

00:46:45.420 Like, we need to be really aware of what's going on on the other side, because I actually

00:46:49.980 think a lot of these guys are just going to flip sides when the election's over, if the

00:46:54.020 House changes.

00:46:55.480 And so we are the ones who have been here.

00:46:57.620 We've been here in the 2010s.

00:47:00.080 We've been here in 2016.

00:47:01.760 We've been here for this president, and we are saying you need to be the protector of the American people.

00:47:09.220 You are the protector.

00:47:10.560 We believe in you, and these other people are in there pushing what makes them money and not protecting the American people.

00:47:20.720 Take a second on that, will you, Tim, because one of the things that we talk to people about, and I love hearing another voice on this,

00:47:26.360 is that the groups you are pulling together

00:47:28.860 have been in this fight for the family and children

00:47:31.560 for a long time,

00:47:32.880 some for decades and decades and decades.

00:47:35.120 Yes.

00:47:35.300 The tech bros are kind of with us now,

00:47:38.420 but if you look at the possibility,

00:47:41.360 I'm not saying it's going to do it,

00:47:42.140 but the potential that we could lose the House

00:47:44.080 and maybe the Senate,

00:47:45.460 these guys have all been progressive Democrats

00:47:47.700 that kind of had their awakening

00:47:49.440 at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time

00:47:52.700 when President Trump took Pennsylvania,

00:47:54.620 I think it was, in November.

00:47:56.360 2024. They had their come-to-Jesus moment. You're saying, hey, we ought to take that into

00:48:02.260 consideration as we work through these regulations and laws and statutes that really define where

00:48:11.040 the human species is going to go for the next couple of hundred years.

00:48:16.000 Yeah. I mean, why in the world would we listen to someone who put $400 million,

00:48:21.900 dollars, Zuck bucks, right? Into the 2020 campaign, tilting the odds as Molly Hemingway

00:48:28.720 in her wonderful book, I think, like tore the lid off, right? And that Congress investigated,

00:48:33.860 like these people didn't magically, you know, come to Jesus really, did they? Because guess

00:48:39.800 what? They're still explaining how there should be no regulations on things like sexually abusing

00:48:45.760 chatbots. Like where are they on the Guard Act that Senator Hawley's put out, which is a great

00:48:50.140 piece of legislation that's pending. These are things that are obvious, obvious things.

00:48:57.360 And right now, I see the cynical attempt going on to tie broad preemption and AI amnesty

00:49:04.220 to kids' safety bills. And that does offend me as a parent. It offends me as a conservative.

00:49:11.300 We ought to be putting these kids' bills through this week, no strings attached. If we are for

00:49:17.320 We're protecting families like these very strong kids' bills in the Senate should be coming to vote soon, and they shouldn't have any other preemption on it other than to be a minimum standard for the states to live by.

00:49:34.480 Tim, I want to immerse the board and posse is known for wanting the receipts and drill down and get all the information possible.

00:49:41.020 That's when they can use their agency the best, and we're going to need the agency of the grassroots here to make sure that we deliver the muscle that's going to take to fight this.

00:49:49.980 So where do they go, Tim?

00:49:52.360 So you can find us at betterfutureai.org.

00:49:57.140 Come on, watch the video, share it around social, pile on, sign up.

00:50:02.460 We're going to be organizing.

00:50:03.800 We're going to be going into races, working with candidates at the grassroots levels.

00:50:08.780 we are going to make it known

00:50:11.400 that if you have taken money from these tech billionaires,

00:50:14.500 we have a recent, we have a poll that came out just today,

00:50:17.140 probably the broadest poll that's been done

00:50:18.920 on the way the American people look at AI

00:50:21.040 and especially Republicans look at AI.

00:50:24.180 86% of them do not want to support candidates

00:50:26.640 that are basically tied up with tech billionaires, 86%.

00:50:30.100 81% when common sense guardrails,

00:50:33.180 and we think that means something close

00:50:34.580 to what Senator Blackburn has proposed,

00:50:35.960 who is, I'm a Tennessean.

00:50:38.320 I am blessed with an amazingly good senator.

00:50:41.020 I know Mike Davis, who is a strong ally of this program,

00:50:43.740 has done amazing work there as well.

00:50:45.660 We think that's where the heart of this party is

00:50:48.500 or the part of the movement is.

00:50:50.300 We believe there should be a national standard,

00:50:52.980 but we think it has to be real.

00:50:54.480 And if it's not real, the states have to stand in the gap.

00:50:57.160 And we don't trust the people

00:50:58.540 who tried to slam amnesty down last June

00:51:00.820 and then try to slam it down again

00:51:02.580 by tying it to the troops.

00:51:04.220 So they try to slam it down our throats, tying it to the president's biggest agenda, number one.

00:51:08.740 And Marsha stopped it, 99 to 1, as we remember, beautiful day.

00:51:12.820 They try to slam it by tying it to an unrelated defense bill, okay, more trickery.

00:51:17.880 And now they're going to try to tie it to kids' stuff?

00:51:20.280 Let's have a real discussion on the right about what kind of guardrails are obvious for families, for kids, for workers, for risks.

00:51:29.580 You know, there's a whole nother conversation, not today, Steve, about the kinds of things that

00:51:34.220 could eventually go wrong with AI, much like, you know, gain of function type stuff that COVID

00:51:38.140 showed us how bad that could go. If these people can't explain how this is going to work by growing

00:51:43.960 this AI, because that's what it is. I've been in AI 25 years. I'm not a person. I've got like nine

00:51:49.540 or 10 patents in this stuff. I am not a person coming into politics. I'm in politics because I

00:51:53.740 got two boys, a seven-year-old and a nine-year-old. And I want them to grow up in a world where

00:51:59.540 they can choose their destiny and tech overlords aren't saying they have to merge with machines,

00:52:03.740 which is some of the crazy stuff. You've had it on. There's some crazy stuff these people say.

00:52:07.760 And they write big checks. And now these Republicans, some of them, and Democrats too,

00:52:12.620 they'll buy anybody they can, are being beheld into this. And so, and I think if I can end on

00:52:18.060 something here, it's been on my heart all day as it's been going on. I'm in DC today. Like I said,

00:52:22.120 live in Nashville. We've come with a 250th birthday coming up this year of this great,

00:52:26.740 beautiful nation and tim tim tim hang on tim hang on one second i i don't want to rush this i want

00:52:33.400 to hold you through the six o'clock hour just stick around thank you tim estes is with us from

00:52:38.020 the alliance uh for a better future wow what a throw down been waiting for this one for a while

00:52:45.040 we're gonna take a short break we're gonna be back the senate the save act the president's

00:52:50.340 Heading back to Washington, D.C. from Memphis.

00:52:53.660 We've got a lot to get through.

00:52:55.380 Plus, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker on the federal courts trying to shut down Bobby Kennedy now.

00:53:00.900 Short commercial break.

00:53:02.060 Back in the war room for our second hour.

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Bannon's War Room - March 23, 2026

Episode 5240： Iran Will Not Back Down Anytime Soon; SCOTUS Case Will Determine Midterm Elections

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