Bannon's War Room - March 29, 2026


Episode 5255: War Rages As Iran Attacks Airport; No Kings Protests Across The Nation


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In this episode, we discuss the latest Iranian missile strike on a Saudi Arabia air base, as well as the massive protests across the country in support of the No Kings movement and the No King in America rally in New York City.

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00:00:00.160 Secretary of State Marco Rubio told reporters a short time ago that he was expecting Iran's
00:00:04.700 response to a U.S. peace proposal at any moment.
00:00:08.020 The Trump administration has offered to Iran a 15-point plan to end the war, and this comes
00:00:12.780 as the two sides could potentially begin face-to-face negotiations in the near future.
00:00:17.600 At the same time, the U.S. is sending thousands of troops to the Middle East, though Secretary
00:00:21.780 Rubio says that Iranian military capabilities can be destroyed without putting any American
00:00:26.920 troops on the ground.
00:00:28.120 Listen.
00:00:30.000 We can achieve. We are achieving all those objectives. We are ahead of schedule on most of
00:00:34.140 them, and we can achieve them without any ground troops, without any. Now, in terms of why there's
00:00:39.400 deployments, number one, the president has to be prepared for multiple contingencies,
00:00:45.000 which I'm not going to discuss immediately. And again, I refer you to the Department of War,
00:00:48.720 who will probably tell you the exact same thing. But we can achieve all of our objectives with
00:00:52.940 our ground troops, but we are always going to be prepared to give the president maximum
00:00:56.700 optionality and maximum opportunity to adjust to contingencies should they emerge so we don't
00:01:03.500 have the exact number of servicemen or women who were actually injured during this attack but i was
00:01:10.420 just told by a source moments ago that two of the service members did have shrapnel wounds but they
00:01:19.060 were clear to say that these were non-life-threatening wounds. I'm also told that
00:01:25.020 aircrafts, at least one aircraft was damaged in this strike, but it's not something that's going
00:01:30.920 to totally take out their capabilities on that air base. Now, in terms of the shrapnel wounds,
00:01:36.220 in terms of the wounds overall, the injuries overall, we do not have clarity on how many
00:01:41.320 service members, men and women, were actually injured. We do not have clarity on what those
00:01:48.080 injuries were other than the at least two servicemen and women who were injured with a
00:01:53.500 shrapnel injury. Now, of course, all of this is going to further complicate what is supposed to
00:01:58.940 be happening behind the scenes right now and what we are told is happening, which is this quest for
00:02:04.060 diplomacy, these ongoing negotiations. And I will say we heard from the secretary of state earlier
00:02:09.460 today who said that they were waiting to hear from Iran on that 15 point plan and that they
00:02:14.540 still didn't know who they were supposed to be talking to and what they were supposed to be
00:02:18.500 talking about. And the reason why that's so critical, that 15 point plan, I mean, that's
00:02:24.660 supposed to be the basis of these negotiations. So if Iran doesn't accept that, what are they
00:02:29.680 actually going to talk about if the two sides sit down together either late this weekend or early
00:02:35.600 next week? But when it comes to what happened in Saudi Arabia, I mean, this was this information
00:02:39.780 is still very fluid. It is coming in. It does sound like the injuries that we know of were
00:02:46.720 non-life threatening. But again, this is still a very fluid situation after this Iranian missile
00:02:52.800 strike. Now, one other thing. Troops on the ground. He said no troops on the ground.
00:02:59.880 I don't remember that in any campaign speech either. But why would we need troops on the
00:03:04.920 ground well there's a lot of reasons and we wouldn't need 300,000 of them it's
00:03:11.600 this uranium too we've got to get the uranium if it cannot be destroyed if it
00:03:20.280 cannot be altered we got to get it for the reason I just said you can make
00:03:26.460 dirty bombs and over time you can still make sophisticated missiles so you need
00:03:33.780 to get to the uranium. That's why I'm reading in the paper, we're talking about the 82nd Airborne,
00:03:40.480 we're talking about these very special forces and the various military services and so forth.
00:03:45.420 He's not talking about sending regular army and infantry in by the hundreds of thousands.
00:03:51.660 All day long, through rain or shine, massive crowds poured into the streets in big cities
00:03:57.180 and small towns alike, all with a unifying message. There are no kings in America.
00:04:02.680 And Justin, the No Kings Coalition, which is made up of organizers of rallies nationwide, tells MSNOW that an estimated 8 million people showed up to today's demonstrations, making it the largest single-day nonviolent protest in modern American history.
00:04:20.180 Organizers in Chicago estimated that about 200,000 people turned up there alone.
00:04:25.140 And here in New York City, organizers told me that an estimated 350,000 people showed up.
00:04:31.980 For reference, the first No Kings Day last June drew an estimated 5 million people.
00:04:37.260 The second one, held in October, an estimated 7 million.
00:04:41.000 The flagship No Kings rally was held today in Minneapolis,
00:04:44.540 which has, of course, become the site of some of the Trump administration's most glaring examples of overreach.
00:04:51.140 Every morning when I get up, I reach for my phone to look at the headlines of the day.
00:04:55.580 And for some time now, I start every morning depressed about the latest outrage from our
00:05:01.240 would-be king. I mean, it's amazing. Every f***ing day, there's something new and crazy.
00:05:07.860 But it's different on this day, because all over the country, in cities and towns and factories
00:05:14.040 and on farms, north, south, east, west, millions of us are coming together to declare no kings.
00:05:21.540 It is indeed a beautiful, hopeful day in the United States of America.
00:05:27.540 And you, Minnesota, are at the epicenter.
00:05:30.540 It is your courage and your commitment that have inspired all of us.
00:05:34.540 You have shown the power of nonviolent protests.
00:05:37.540 You have shown bravery in the face of armed attack by government thugs.
00:05:42.540 And you stood together and ran them out of town.
00:05:45.540 Toast yourselves, pat yourselves on the back, take a bow, but don't take a break.
00:05:50.540 because today and everything that has gone before
00:05:53.580 is just a start, a rehearsal for the big show that's coming.
00:05:58.820 You know the arrogant would-be king is absolutely scared to death
00:06:02.160 about losing his power and will do everything he can to hold on to it
00:06:06.100 without regard to legality, morality, humanity, nothing.
00:06:10.080 We will face greater challenges down the road.
00:06:13.140 For everything you've done, thank you.
00:06:15.900 And now expect to be asked to do more.
00:06:18.520 I know you will answer the call.
00:06:20.540 Thank you.
00:06:29.260 Hello, Minnesota.
00:06:34.760 Welcome to the freest state in the nation.
00:06:40.040 A state where you love who you choose to love.
00:06:44.980 A state where you make your health care decisions.
00:06:48.460 a state where you worship or not according to your own beliefs
00:06:54.460 and maybe most importantly a state where everyone belongs
00:07:01.240 well this past winter federal troops brought death and terror to the streets of minneapolis
00:07:15.200 Well, they picked the wrong city.
00:07:20.940 The power and the solidarity of the people of Minneapolis and of Minnesota
00:07:25.980 was an inspiration to the entire country.
00:07:30.000 Your strength and your commitment told us that this is still America.
00:07:37.440 And this reactionary nightmare and these invasions of American cities will not stand.
00:07:45.200 You gave us hope. You gave us courage.
00:07:49.780 And for those who gave their lives,
00:07:52.660 Renee Good, mother of three, brutally murdered,
00:07:56.320 Alex Preddy, VA nurse, executed by ICE,
00:08:01.320 shot in the back and left to die in the street
00:08:03.580 without even the decency of our lawless government
00:08:07.180 investigating their deaths.
00:08:12.380 Their bravery, their sacrifice,
00:08:15.200 and their names will not be forgotten.
00:08:18.820 Pakistan is hosting foreign ministers from Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia
00:08:22.760 to talk about ways to de-escalate this joint U.S.-Israeli operation in Iran.
00:08:28.340 Now, the countries have seen their borders and energy security come under threat as well.
00:08:33.960 I believe Russia is actively helping Iran target American forces in the Middle East right now.
00:08:39.940 think that Russia in Russian interest to help Iranians and I not believe I know
00:08:49.420 that they share information if they make images once they are prepared if they
00:08:56.980 make images the second time it's like simulation the sore time it's been that
00:09:04.240 one two days they will attack that's right yeah this is what you know that's
00:09:08.980 why if i get not once the information from my intelligence that they are that they make images
00:09:16.820 of american base i'm this this is the answer do they help iranians of course how many percent
00:09:27.220 100 percent yes you think it's in vladimir putin's interest for this world yeah at least
00:09:33.540 I think that Russia needs long war in Middle East because the focus will be on Middle East.
00:09:43.860 And you know what else? I remember from my days in the Reagan administration.
00:09:48.620 Many of them are trained for a moment like this to try and secure enriched uranium.
00:09:57.160 Many have been trained for moments like this.
00:10:00.580 i guess what i'm trying to say is we're in good hands no not with all state but with president
00:10:07.800 trump because he's a man with enormous intelligence enormous common sense he's not an ideologue he
00:10:15.520 doesn't run around with slogans he's prudential he looks at the facts he looks at the challenge
00:10:22.820 and he's dealing with it now you might say but he's negotiating a peace deal first of all
00:10:27.760 Did you look at those 15 points that were in the media?
00:10:31.140 You know what that was?
00:10:32.020 That was unconditional surrender.
00:10:34.620 The Iranians apparently said no.
00:10:36.780 The president said, okay, who's up next?
00:10:40.940 Since 9-11, a whole bunch of the leadership, including bin Laden's son, escaped from Afghanistan to Iran,
00:10:47.740 were given sanctuary by the Iranian regime, and they've been using it as a hub for terror around the world.
00:10:54.640 And al-Qaeda and Iran have teamed up for a series of terrorist attacks against us.
00:10:59.580 People don't realize this, but we remember the bombings of the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania,
00:11:03.600 which should have been our warning that 9-11 was coming.
00:11:06.840 That was planned, and the terrorists were trained by Iran for doing that because al-Qaeda
00:11:12.760 didn't know how to bring down buildings, so they turned to Iran in order to get the training to do
00:11:17.740 that. So the idea that Iran, which is Shia, and al-Qaeda, which is Sunni, would cooperate is not
00:11:25.900 beyond measure. In fact, I mean, you know, Hamas is Sunni also. Iran works with Sunni terrorists
00:11:31.440 around the world. And if we don't get that enriched uranium and they want to get back at
00:11:36.200 us for what we've done, the easiest way to do it would be to give it to al-Qaeda and let them use
00:11:40.980 it for a dirty bomb. So we have got to get what Donald Trump correctly calls the nuclear dust
00:11:45.540 before this operation is done?
00:11:47.920 Well, the president said,
00:11:48.820 look, we've accomplished the gross majority
00:11:50.960 of our military objectives.
00:11:51.980 I think you can make a good argument
00:11:53.040 that we've accomplished all of our military objectives.
00:11:55.620 The president's gonna keep at it for a little while longer
00:11:57.740 to ensure that once we leave,
00:12:00.380 we don't have to do this again for a very, very long time.
00:12:02.600 That was fundamentally the president's goal.
00:12:04.100 He said, look, this country,
00:12:05.720 they're threatening us in all these ways.
00:12:07.480 They're still trying to build a nuclear weapon.
00:12:09.280 We need to neuter them for a very, very long time.
00:12:12.340 And that's the purpose.
00:12:13.100 You're right.
00:12:13.880 Gas prices have certainly gone up because of what's going on in the Middle East, but they're going to come down, right?
00:12:19.080 This is a very, very temporary reaction to what is going to ultimately be a short-term conflict.
00:12:24.760 I think the president's been very clear about this, that we're not interested in being in Iran a year down the road, two years down the road.
00:12:32.560 We're taking care of business. We're going to be out of there soon, and gas prices are going to come back down.
00:12:37.640 I've never seen – I know that people turned against the Iraq war after a period of time.
00:12:42.520 They turned against Afghanistan after a period of time. The Democrats did. But I never seen a war where the Democrats turned against the war on day one and are rooting for defeat.
00:12:53.280 You know, there are people in this country who hate Donald Trump more than they hate the Iranian regime that just massacred 32000 people in their streets.
00:13:01.800 You know, they were all very upset about about what was happening in Gaza, but 32000 people massacred.
00:13:08.800 And then Donald Trump comes in to wipe out the genocidal regime that actually was committing genocide against its own people, massacring them in the streets like that.
00:13:17.360 And Donald because it's Donald Trump, we have to play it down.
00:13:20.500 We have to say it's a defeat. We have to say we're losing and they're all going to have egg on their face because we got we're about halfway through this thing.
00:13:26.360 And when this is all over, this is going to go down in history as possibly the greatest military campaign the United States has waged since the American Revolution.
00:13:39.580 Come, mothers and fathers, throughout the land, and don't criticize what you don't understand.
00:13:50.220 Minneapolis, Minnesota is beyond your command.
00:13:56.360 Your old road is rapidly aging, so get the f**k out the way if you can't lend a hand.
00:14:05.660 The times are changing.
00:14:12.020 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:14:17.380 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:14:21.260 I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it
00:14:28.400 I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but
00:14:32.080 you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the big
00:14:36.560 line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself
00:14:45.140 what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will
00:14:53.000 be saved war room here's your host stephen k bannett
00:14:57.860 it's palm sunday 29 march year of our lord 2026 want to thank real america's voice for all the
00:15:08.800 support uh and great uh great work at cpac also with helping us on now our new sunday show in
00:15:16.100 particularly here on on palm sunday um we've got we're going to go through obviously a lot of
00:15:21.180 detail in the war this is the beginning of holy week and i think it will be a pretty intense week
00:15:27.320 in the middle east breaking news so i've got eric prince dr bradley thayer captain jim finnell to
00:15:34.800 start off this morning and to set us right here on what's going on. But breaking news, I've got
00:15:40.480 Poso Posovic and hopefully Ben Harnwell from Rome in the second hour. Breaking news, very disturbing
00:15:47.680 story this morning about Palm Sunday. Israeli police prevented Cardinal Pizzabella from entering
00:15:54.620 the Church of the Holy Sepulchre early today as he went to, say, Palm Sunday Mass. They put out a
00:16:00.840 press release from the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem in the custody of the Holy Land.
00:16:06.020 This morning, the Israeli police prevented Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, Cardinal Pizzabella,
00:16:12.440 head of the Catholic Church in the Holy Land, together with the custodian of the Holy Land,
00:16:17.040 from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem as they made their way to celebrate
00:16:22.840 Palm Sunday Mass. Georgia Maloney and the Italian government, I think, have already
00:16:28.200 called for the israeli ambassador to come have a visit so we're gonna get break all that down
00:16:32.680 find exactly what happened uh eric prince you join us eric thank you and thank you for the
00:16:38.680 obviously the guidance you gave from the stage at cpac um right there we've got we've got two
00:16:45.960 messages we have a message from the national security advisor to the president marco rubio
00:16:51.600 and also, I think, backed up by the vice president that says we don't need combat troops.
00:16:59.160 We're going down, as Jim Fennell has been showing us every day, a methodical process of defanging
00:17:05.880 and declawing the traditional combat arms of the Iranian government and the Revolutionary Guard.
00:17:15.320 that continues on i think they say they have 3 500 targets left uh and it's a it's a just a
00:17:22.960 massive pounding every night unrelenting although i would say that the i believe ever since the
00:17:29.520 israelis attacked the gas fields of the qatar that the initiative the center of gravity of this
00:17:36.120 battle has shifted to the persian gulf uh the toll gate that now somehow you know the houthis
00:17:42.760 have in the Red Sea and the Revolutionary Guard fields they have in the Strait of Hormuz.
00:17:50.700 There's, I think, about 8,000 combat troops between 82nd Airborne and two Marine Expeditionary
00:17:57.880 units that now are essentially on station, if the president so chooses. But Marco Rubio tells us,
00:18:03.560 and he told us many times, we're not going to need that. You've got the vice president saying,
00:18:09.040 We're almost done. A little while longer, I think what the quote was.
00:18:13.580 But you have the Mark Levins and Thysons and all the cheerleaders for the Iraq war.
00:18:17.360 Everybody got it wrong in the Iraq war.
00:18:19.380 They're telling us that there's nuclear dust or there's some there's some cause,
00:18:24.020 their current version of weapons of mass destruction that we have to go in and send troops in.
00:18:29.960 Your thoughts on all this, sir?
00:18:32.520 Well, first, Steve, let me speak to Palm Sunday in Jerusalem.
00:18:35.860 I know Cardinal Pizzaballa. He actually contacted me after the Gaza debacle started, and he said the Holy Father had instructed him to get involved, and he asked me to make a plan to build a whole refugee camp to take care of the Gazan civilians, and was blocked by the Biden administration.
00:18:56.860 But imagine for the first time in centuries since the Ottoman rule, hundreds and hundreds of years ago, Christians are denied to have mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher.
00:19:09.680 This is truly unprecedented times.
00:19:12.260 I cannot see any legitimate reason security wise to ban people from going to mass.
00:19:20.400 I mean, if they're going to Mass, they're clearly in community with their Lord.
00:19:28.140 If they're killed going to Mass, I think they'll take that risk.
00:19:31.680 It is a horrific affront to Christianity, and every Catholic, evangelical, every Orthodox in America should be irate about it.
00:19:40.980 It is unprecedented and wrong.
00:19:43.900 Second, we now live in a world of truth.
00:19:48.300 Hang on one second. Before we go to number two, I want to go back to number one.
00:19:54.620 My understanding after this story broke and with my inquiries, and that's we're trying to get Ben
00:19:59.840 up from Rome in the second hour, is was there any, to your knowledge, was there anything
00:20:05.620 transmitted to the church through official channels to tell them, because this is unprecedented
00:20:11.060 For hundreds of years, since the Ottomans controlled Jerusalem, was anything communicated through official channels to the church that this might happen, sir, to your knowledge?
00:20:25.220 Not that I know of. In fact, the cardinal in his statement even said that he has been adhering to every request and security stricture.
00:20:34.540 stricture he was not going with some grand procession even he was going privately with
00:20:38.860 another clergy to the the church to say mass on palm sunday and barred so it's when you if you
00:20:48.420 give a gun and a badge you get a bigger one and uh perhaps that's the case of some security uh
00:20:56.400 apparatchik uh in jerusalem that doesn't care that it's a cardinal has no respect uh for christendom
00:21:02.800 This is a really, really bad look for – look, it starts to take away any understanding about – or I guess it adds to understanding of even Muslims that are angry at their access to Al-Aqsa Mosque and, again, a completely unforced stupid error by Israeli security forces today.
00:21:32.800 eric go on your your bullet point number two bullet point two stave uh we live in a very in a
00:21:42.680 in a world of transparent battlefields if you get within 30 40 kilometers of the front line
00:21:48.580 in era in ukraine you are completely at risk because of the amount of surveillance uh and
00:21:56.680 drones sensors. The idea that you're going to hide an amphibious ready group, or MU, with
00:22:04.560 an LHA, that's probably a, what, 800 or 900 foot ship, weighs 40 or 50,000 tons.
00:22:13.260 Believe me, there's multiple countries in the world that own the means to track that in real
00:22:19.640 time. And so if you, by doctrine, if you try to get that entire amphibious group within a range
00:22:29.560 of them starting to discharge their troops, they're going to be heavily and highly targeted
00:22:34.520 for the same reason that they pulled the carrier air wing back mysteriously after the laundry fire
00:22:45.680 on board the uss ford so uh highly dangerous to put amphibious troops uh into that area because
00:22:54.080 of their so many precision missiles and obviously there's no surprise left uh if they somehow
00:22:59.840 manage to get all those marines off and move them somewhere else to launch an amphibious operation
00:23:06.400 to try to force open the straits of hormuz maybe but um hard to do deception now and second they
00:23:14.000 truly don't have maritime superiority when the iranians can launch as many missiles drones
00:23:19.600 uh and suicide um suicide vessels against them as they can
00:23:24.540 could you um could you actually um do a uh without active arab support could you actually take
00:23:35.180 karg island from um the um could you actually go to karg island unless you got the lhas unless
00:23:42.800 you got the amphibious ready group at least part of the uh contingent into the persian gulf or
00:23:48.380 would you do it stand off and and and station the helicopters and the uh and the osprey i guess
00:23:54.940 it's some you know up in qatar uh you know to the to that point you know up i think i think i think
00:24:02.280 the mu has in iran in iran iraq i mean is that as i recall that that mu would have a maximum of 10
00:24:09.340 v-22s on board um and so you're not going to move more than 20 or 30 troops per lift
00:24:15.140 so yeah your initial assault to the karg island is going to be mighty thin because those aircraft
00:24:20.240 have to cycle and that's assuming you don't have any losses for maintenance or for missiles um
00:24:25.760 uh do you do a mass drop of the 82nd on the karg island again that's uh that's pretty sporty um
00:24:34.140 and an airborne invasion in a place that has thousands and thousands of missiles,
00:24:42.180 not to mention the Iranians have been learning.
00:24:45.040 They've certainly been paying attention to modern drone warfare
00:24:48.600 and have certainly implemented FPVs down to the squad level.
00:24:53.600 I mean, you see videos of the Israelis in southern Lebanon losing tanks,
00:25:00.000 losing armored personnel carriers to the same FPVs that the Russians have been using with great
00:25:04.900 effect in Ukraine. So it is, again, a fight against Iran, they're not Arabs. They're Aryans.
00:25:15.380 They are highly intelligent, highly skilled warfighters. And it would not be the pushover
00:25:24.280 by comparison that you see of the Iraqi army that worked.
00:25:30.820 The other thing the Iranians have done, seeing what the U.S. military did to Iraq in 2003
00:25:38.060 and 2004, where they decapitated all the military command structure, is they decentralized the
00:25:43.320 decision-making into 31 military districts with a standing order to make war, as much
00:25:48.800 war, for as long as you can.
00:25:50.920 and the only person that can countermand that is the supreme leader not their minister of defense
00:25:56.280 or their chief of the armed forces or their president only the supreme leader so it's um
00:26:03.800 at that point even hard to uh to negotiate with any of the other people that come to uh to meet
00:26:09.880 jd vance or whatever um and i think we just killed the uh the head of the parliament who was the
00:26:15.320 other guy that was supposed to come and negotiate with with jd vant so um i'm not sure that u.s
00:26:22.200 interests are even in parallel at all to israeli interests because they seem they seem to be
00:26:27.080 whacking a lot more of the leaders um taking those names off the board people that are supposed to
00:26:33.500 be negotiating peace with look clearly president trump i keep saying and and rubio picked it up
00:26:41.720 optionality he he needs optionality needs a range of alternatives and you're never going to give
00:26:46.280 your strategy how that being said the national security advisor marco ruby and the vice president
00:26:52.440 were pretty adamant to go back to the military objectives president trump doesn't even refer
00:26:56.280 to it as a warning more it's a military operation you've got those four or five objectives of you
00:27:01.720 know de-industrialize them taking out the navy taking out the air force their their their defense
00:27:07.160 capabilities air capabilities we have air supremacy now at least air superiority um you know
00:27:13.820 and marco was adamant or pretty adamant and repeated many times we're not going to need
00:27:17.900 combat troops for this is is is the combat troops we have in another 10 000 being prepped
00:27:25.200 is that so president trump has another option is it for leverage against these guys or how real
00:27:31.960 how real do you feel right now moving in to take uh to make sure they take that those those couple
00:27:37.340 islands down by straight or whore moves than carg island and you're thinking this through and
00:27:42.760 putting in that logistics base or that logistics premise a predicate uh how real do you think we're
00:27:49.480 moving on uh with the cheerleading of mark levin and teeson and all these other you know the lindsey
00:27:53.840 grahams of the world how realistic do you think it looks like combat troops well unlike the
00:27:59.940 chattering classes in Washington, Steve, I've actually sailed through the Straits of Hormuz
00:28:03.480 on a sailboat, oddly enough, with a huge Blackwater logo on the sail doing a race,
00:28:09.320 the Dubai to Muscat race. It's narrow. And those two islands on the north side,
00:28:16.380 one is Keshem and one is Larrick. Keshem is the size of Okinawa. Larrick is the size of Iwo Jima.
00:28:22.520 Anybody that knows anything of American maritime amphibious history knows those names and how many
00:28:28.420 thousands and thousands of soldiers were killed by a very dug-in enemy. Now, those islands are
00:28:35.960 generally flat. So even if you put guys over the beach and you take them, the bunkers,
00:28:44.040 prepared fortifications, which I would imagine are there. Worse than that, on the mainland Iran,
00:28:51.980 There are mountains very, very close by, which are also laced with caves, tunnels, and survivability from which can be launched rockets, missiles, and drones, making both of those islands that you're trying to put, potentially putting Marines ashore as one large beaten zone.
00:29:12.520 And I think it's important to think of other military history of a grand amphibious operation planned by the British in World War II at Gallipoli, which is to try to take the Dardanelles and take out Turkey from the war.
00:29:28.980 And it ended very badly because they never seized the highlands.
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00:32:52.860 so ben harnwell has gotten us uh the times of israel uh is reporting now about the incident
00:33:00.500 uh eric with uh the cardinal uh and italy is furious about this i think they've called the
00:33:06.360 ambassador over maloney is is taking this personally for action so we'll have more on
00:33:11.460 that ben harnwell jack basopic in the next hour uh before i get back to gallipoli or
00:33:16.660 to uh to uh um the great one alexander the great um and his uh his trial and tribulations in the
00:33:27.740 same part of the world uh where we have our navy and we're sending uh potentially sending young
00:33:32.820 american uh men and women um give me a second on the cardinal you know him personally uh what type
00:33:40.560 a guy is he he's a very no-nonsense guy um in um certainly was a candidate to be uh to be the pope
00:33:50.360 uh but a serious guy not a crazy um not a crazy person and so again keeping with his obligation
00:34:01.700 um and joy to celebrate mass on palm sunday to be blocked is is just ridiculous and i'm and he
00:34:09.720 Knowing that guy, he did not do that as some provocation, but an expectation, as his forefathers did, as his predecessors did for centuries, even during other wars, World War I, World War II, other clashes in the Middle East, mass was always open for business, but not apparently under the IDF now.
00:34:33.740 yeah there we're gonna get more into that by the way so you were talking about gallipoli
00:34:40.140 right and and this is from the landmark uh arian the great historian of alexander the great's
00:34:47.340 campaign on his retreat back from india where i guess uh eric his generals they had a council of
00:34:54.960 war they got too far in india after they'd gone through the the kyber pass and fought their way
00:35:00.160 what 8 000 miles they said hey maybe we ought to just go back to baghdad or babylon and regroup
00:35:05.940 that's the coast you're talking about if that camera can be pulled in
00:35:09.920 and if you read this uh history as you know eric it was absolutely brutal in fact it was such a
00:35:16.920 brutal retreat uh or march back up country that he put half of his army with one of his generals
00:35:23.740 on on a fleet that went through Hormuz when people say it's 21 miles wide the channel itself
00:35:31.020 I think it's like two miles they say five but having I didn't have the pleasure of going on
00:35:36.400 Eric's Blackwater excursion I actually did it on a Navy combatant but you're right it's not a
00:35:43.160 it's a very dangerous sea detail and that's under the best circumstances right just with so much
00:35:49.760 traffic and these little dows going around it's kind of like going into hong kong in the old days
00:35:53.920 um but eric you brought up gallipoli talk about this second see this is very in hospital you got
00:36:00.240 right when you go through hermuz you got those cliffs in fact i don't even think that the the
00:36:04.940 tribes down there i believe are not even persian i think it down there they get some arab tribes
00:36:10.300 that think it's their territory they're very territorial these are kind of like the the houthis
00:36:16.020 these are tough kind of mountain people the very tough uh you know ornery uh and we try to take
00:36:23.820 them out with uh with the what the 2 000 pound bombs um and uh you know these guys are uh these
00:36:30.040 guys are fighters but why do you why do you do the comparison to gallipoli well that was a planned
00:36:36.660 massive amphibious operation planned by the british against the turkey at the turks in world
00:36:41.540 War I, and it went terribly. 60,000 dead, 250,000 casualties, dozens of vessels lost,
00:36:51.860 again, assaulting up difficult terrain. Those islands, like I talked about in the Gulf,
00:37:00.720 are fairly flat, but they're immediately backed by steep terrain, which contains lots and lots
00:37:07.740 and lots of fortifications. Again, 15-point plan, whatever. I want, trust me, I want America to
00:37:15.320 succeed. I want this to be done. I don't believe this was in our strategic interest in the first
00:37:22.140 place. So I would like to extricate the United States as quickly and as painlessly as possible.
00:37:28.000 But smashing in with an amphibious operation in the front door is an exceedingly dangerous
00:37:37.480 course of action, especially if we think, again, the mantra in Washington is, oh, we've serviced
00:37:50.840 all these targets, and there's only a few left, and it's great. We did that already, supposedly,
00:37:55.740 to the Houthis, who had been shut down the southern end of the Red Sea, another choke
00:38:02.360 point waterway called the babu mandab um pouring billions of dollars worth of precision weapons
00:38:08.980 supposedly into those houthi positions now the houthis compared to the irgc are a ragtag bunch
00:38:15.600 of guys and yet over that year and a half two years never affected their ability to choke off
00:38:22.420 that waterway and so now if we think we're going to force our way in yeah to hormuz just for for
00:38:30.120 For our audience on a Sunday morning, just for people that have been over there and had to deal with this, you've got the Houthis, you've got guys in Afghanistan.
00:38:38.960 This is kind of, I'd say, the equivalent of the Scotch-Irish in Appalachia.
00:38:43.000 These are tough hombres.
00:38:45.140 The Houthis, the Egyptian army lost, I think, 25,000 men decades ago under Nasser trying to take them out.
00:38:52.580 50, the British.
00:38:54.120 These are tough hombres.
00:38:55.620 uh that we've just seen since president trump came into power in 17 we saw the saudis which
00:39:03.700 are a disaster they're they're pretty pathetic but then you had uae you've had some pretty
00:39:08.740 good operators take their best punch at these guys and including the united states navy last
00:39:14.600 summer and they're still kind of around hang over a second because i know i got
00:39:18.020 captain let's bring a captain finnell captain finnell uh marco rubio and the vice president
00:39:24.400 are kind of taking your line to saying hey look we've got military objectives this is a military
00:39:29.420 operation uh we're pounding this we're defanging and declawing historically we got a couple more
00:39:37.140 weeks maybe that's two weeks maybe it's four weeks but there's some period of time that
00:39:41.440 admiral cooper has a timeline and and the uh chairman of the joint chiefs general kane has a
00:39:46.640 timeline and we're moving down here uh do you still believe and i know because you're you're
00:39:51.900 you've got a lot of insight baseball on this. Do you think we're still progressing down that
00:39:56.480 at the rate that you felt at first? There's no question about it, Steve. We are progressing,
00:40:05.080 even that CENTCOM commander said on, I think on Friday, that we are on schedule or ahead of
00:40:10.640 schedule to the plan that they've had. I think there's a bit of cognizant dissonance going on
00:40:17.520 in the media and what we're hearing and being subjected to. And I saw the front page of the
00:40:24.900 New York Times today. There's an article top above the fold, quote, a toothless Iran,
00:40:30.100 question mark. Missiles and drone strikes show it can still inflict pain. So that's the messaging
00:40:35.760 that we're hearing from the media and from all kinds of sources. And if that's true, and I think
00:40:42.540 it is. I think there's still some capability in Iran, clearly. But if that's true, then how come
00:40:48.660 we're not getting kind of an objective assessment of what 11,000 strike flights, flights, combat
00:40:55.560 missions, and over 11,000 targets have struck, and targets that are like the Iranian command
00:41:02.940 and control centers, Iranian communications, military communication stations, IRGC headquarters,
00:41:09.280 IRG intelligence sites, ballistic missile sites, drone sites, ballistic missile production
00:41:14.840 facilities, drone production facilities, and their Navy, with over 150 vessels struck,
00:41:20.940 92% of their Navy is erased.
00:41:23.100 Their entire Air Force is erased.
00:41:26.140 And we are flying A-10s.
00:41:28.960 We're flying Apache helicopters in and around and over Iranian territory, plus F-15s, F-16s,
00:41:36.040 F-22s, F-35s.
00:41:37.780 We're dominating them, but we're not getting that appreciation. So what we hear is, well, we're going to get a non sequitur about the Dardanelles and Gallipoli, as if we didn't ever study history ourselves.
00:41:49.040 We're getting a lot of negativism where we should be asking ourselves, what is the impact of four weeks of daily strikes by the United States and Israel?
00:42:01.660 And when then you listen to the leadership, the president, the secretary of war, the national security advisor, the vice president, all saying we're there to neuter Iranian military capability, they're not saying they're invading anything.
00:42:16.920 They're talking about getting rid of the gun from the Iranian regime.
00:42:21.440 And we're working on that.
00:42:22.880 Does that mean every pistol will be destroyed?
00:42:25.380 Does that mean every guy in a cave will be destroyed?
00:42:27.580 No. But what it means is the massive buildup that they've had for 50 years, funded by the United States, funded by Russia, funded by China, that's all being destroyed systematically.
00:42:41.140 And that is the mission that the president said.
00:42:43.960 And I think what's happened over since Vietnam, since I was a young man and watched the Vietnam War and watched Walter Cronkite, we have seen the politicization of our military analysts, our military personnel, our admirals and our generals, and the people that report on it.
00:43:01.540 So now when we talk about war, we want to talk about, you know, go in four weeks right to some kind of what is the political outcome?
00:43:10.120 How come we haven't solved this?
00:43:11.400 As opposed to saying we're going after a nation that spent 47 years arming itself as one of the most armed nations on the planet, and we're systematically destroying it.
00:43:23.680 And that this idea that we're going to want to have immediate results, you know, instant gratification without addressing if we're if we're if we're if we're if we're if we're if we're just hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, because I feel like I'm getting I feel like I'm getting Robert McNamara's report during Vietnam.
00:43:44.360 If this is the case, you made a very compelling case, and you're saying, hang on, hang on.
00:43:51.800 You give me the moral equivalent of a body count.
00:43:53.720 You give me a rocket count.
00:43:56.620 You're doing nothing more than giving a body count.
00:43:59.060 However, if that's the case, how did the Iranians shift and take the initiative?
00:44:03.860 They're getting so bombed.
00:44:05.560 They've shifted the center of gravity.
00:44:06.960 You do agree the center of gravity of this war is not Tehran.
00:44:09.660 The center of gravity of this war is the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, sir?
00:44:14.360 the center of gravity is the iranian regime and their ability to threaten and inflict harm
00:44:22.080 on united states and i just ask you in that region then then then you don't then you don't
00:44:27.040 then you don't understand where the center of gravity this battle has been for three weeks
00:44:30.660 since the since the since the israelis bombed the uh the gas field the center the center the center
00:44:37.880 no no no not important the center of gravity of this battle if you think the center of gravity
00:44:42.820 of the battle is tehran you're not understanding what's going on here the center of gravity this
00:44:48.020 battle has been now for two weeks the persian gulf and the strait of hormuz that's obvious
00:44:53.360 how do you control the strait of hormuz
00:44:57.300 you should go you control the strait of hormuz
00:45:00.700 and not important we've got to get the military to destroy their capability
00:45:07.560 hang on then why then hang on when we were there in night hang on when we were there in 1979 1980
00:45:18.940 we controlled the straighter hermuz we sent combatants up there to do early warning for
00:45:23.640 russian aircraft so we controlled it then we don't control it now the united states navy has
00:45:28.200 not gone near there has it sir or am i missing yeah that's my point we're being we don't have
00:45:35.420 You've shut down, you've shut down, you're in the process of destroying the world's economy.
00:45:43.320 My point is the center of gravity is there.
00:45:46.060 Don't get me wrong, for a limited military operation, which we are doing against the regime, and I think doing magnificently, that's what's happening.
00:45:54.300 But that's the moral equivalent of the body count of continuing to chop up.
00:46:00.800 Okay, go ahead.
00:46:01.840 Let's talk about facts.
00:46:02.920 The four of yours.
00:46:03.520 Well, the facts are there hasn't been a mine in the strait.
00:46:09.100 The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Office and their joint maritime information reports are consistently saying there is no confirmed mines in the strait.
00:46:19.120 Secondly, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:46:24.860 We're going to go to break.
00:46:25.660 I'll be right back.
00:46:27.160 But you do agree that the Revolutionary Guard has set up a toll booth?
00:46:32.340 For the first time, they have a toll booth and they let in who they want.
00:46:35.800 I think they let out 10 ships over the last couple of days, of which they take a toll to go to their partners, of which I think we allow them to monetize their role.
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00:48:08.020 so eric i'm gonna go right back to captain finnell but jump in any any uh any observations
00:48:14.800 and please no non-secretaries like gallipoli again sir look they had to they had to drive
00:48:22.300 a MU over from the Pacific area, and they had to launch another MU urgently all the way from
00:48:29.980 California because I don't think they really figured they were going to close the Straits
00:48:34.800 of Hormuz. Yeah, the Straits of Hormuz are the center of gravity. And the question is,
00:48:39.320 it will remain closed and it will remain under the control or influence of the IRGC for a long,
00:48:45.680 long time, their ability to inflict pain on any vessel transiting there will remain extremely high.
00:48:53.480 Even if you take the first 50 or 100 miles of the Straits of Hormuz, they can still launch
00:48:59.700 and smash commercial vessels. There haven't been any commercial vessels attacked or mines,
00:49:07.520 apparently. Yeah, because they haven't been trying to transit. Any vessels that are transiting are
00:49:13.660 now being forced through a narrow channel, not through the normal shipping channel, but through
00:49:19.020 the toll gate erected by the Iranians going between Larik and Keshem Islands. So you're right.
00:49:25.520 The center of gravity is the Straits of Hormuz. That is basically the pulled grenade pin they
00:49:31.640 have against the rest of the world economy. When you have all of East Asia's economies
00:49:36.480 going on severe fuel rationing now, 30% of the world's fertilizer supply, 22% of the gas,
00:49:44.720 20% of the crude that's supposed to pass through the Straits of Hormuz largely is not, other than
00:49:49.860 the ones solely authorized by the IRGC, like to their friends, the Chinese Communist Party.
00:49:56.860 This is not, or the first thing you're supposed to learn when you join the U.S. Navy is power
00:50:02.980 projection, choke point control. We now, the U.S. Navy does not control two choke points in the
00:50:08.440 world. This is bad. The other choke point being the gated tiers down there at the Red Sea,
00:50:16.180 off where the Hurtis are? The Babel Mandaab. Hang on one second, Eric, hang around. Captain
00:50:22.760 Fennell, your assessment of this situation in the Strait of Hormuz and all the way up to
00:50:29.060 Carg Island, your assessment? Well, there's no question. It is an important, the point
00:50:37.040 that you've all said, and I'm not disagreeing with that fundamentally. The question is,
00:50:41.300 how do you open it? And the answer has to be to continue the plan that we're working on.
00:50:47.120 And don't rush in there before you're ready. And so, yes, it costs, the price of gas has gone up
00:50:53.000 a dollar. It's still under what it was when Joe Biden was president. The point is, is that you
00:50:57.540 have to make the battlefield ready and clear that. And I would say the indicators are that it's
00:51:04.100 becoming more and more ready to be transited by warships that are escorting and providing these
00:51:10.960 escorts for these tankers in and out. Yes, they're running a towboat through Keshem and Larek. We've
00:51:16.720 seen that. But there are other ships that are not squawking AIS that are coming through.
00:51:22.040 Very small numbers, less than a dozen, but this is happening.
00:51:26.220 So why is that happening?
00:51:28.400 Why is it that the Iranians can't see those ships and are not squawking AIS?
00:51:32.560 Why is it that the number of missile attacks and drone attacks have dramatically dropped since 12 March?
00:51:40.700 And I would submit that it's because we are systematically destroying their capacity to do anything in that region.
00:51:47.380 and all up through the Strait of Hormuz and up to Carr.
00:51:53.160 We're working that.
00:51:54.280 It's not finished yet, but we're working it,
00:51:56.820 and we're moving in and having the capacity to have other carriers there.
00:52:02.000 The Fordo, by the way, with the fire, didn't go back to Konis.
00:52:05.860 It left Sudabay, and guess where it is right now?
00:52:08.180 It's in split Yugoslavia, Croatia,
00:52:10.420 and it's going to be repaired and probably come back to the gun line.
00:52:13.940 The USS George Bush is now leaving the East Coast and heading over to the fight as well.
00:52:19.520 So we are not backing off on the campaign to vaporize, essentially, their missiles, their drones, their mine layers, their fast attack speedboats.
00:52:31.540 The fact that we're flying over the strait all the time and nobody is shot at it, despite what Eric mentioned, that the head of the IRGC with their down echelon command structure ordered their down echelon commanders to make war and make as much as you can.
00:52:48.340 That order was given four weeks ago. So where are the results of those orders? If that's all they can produce, then I'm trying to get across that maybe the Iranians are hurting more than we're appreciating. And that the fact that they get off a missile here and there does not mean they're controlling the tempo or the timing or this operation. That's not my point.
00:53:10.000 They are not in control of this. We are. And we have to be able to appreciate what the cumulative effect of 11,000 targets being struck and many, many more to be struck are having on that regime, especially after you take out layers and layers and layers of leaders and their ability to communicate.
00:53:28.820 If the Russians and the Chinese are providing the Iranians with such exquisite, and as the Financial Times reported, real-time targeting, then where are the results of that real-time targeting combined with the orders to make war and do as much as you can?
00:53:45.220 The rhetoric is not matching the Iranians' output while our output is being underappreciated.
00:53:51.480 And I'm not saying we're winning.
00:53:53.020 I'm not saying anything else.
00:53:54.380 I'm not giving you a body count.
00:53:55.760 I'm just saying that it's not as bad as the world's media is portraying it.
00:54:01.200 And I think we should be patient and continue to do what we're doing and stay on the plan
00:54:06.240 and let the flack of all the naysaying go by us and keep driving in to destroy and kill that enemy.
00:54:12.280 If I was Iranian, I'd want them to know we're coming for you and we're going to kill you.
00:54:19.100 I don't think there's any doubt about that.
00:54:20.840 I think Admiral Cooper and General Cain have given that.
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