Bannon's War Room - Episode 5260： Hegseth And Cain Hold Press Briefing; Updates On The War In Iran

00:00:00.000 And, Brett, let me just start with you. Actually, General, let me start with you,

00:00:02.400 because I want to ask about the Kuwaiti oil tanker, as we're still getting new information

00:00:05.280 that it is on fire off the coast of Dubai. General, how concerning is that?

00:00:11.180 Well, it's very concerning. It indicates that the air defense systems that we have in the region

00:00:15.400 aren't covering some of the most critical assets we have. Now, having said that, this is about the

00:00:20.780 13th tanker that's been hit since the beginning of the war of the 22 commercial ships that have

00:00:27.320 been hit since February 28th. We should expect more of this. I don't think we can defend all of

00:00:34.180 them. It will certainly make it harder for those ships to pass and get the insurance companies to

00:00:41.220 support them if they're constantly getting hit. How unusual is this? Have you been in negotiations

00:00:46.700 not being sure if you're talking to the right people? I wish I could say it's totally unusual,

00:00:52.000 but look, in this circumstance, we don't really know who's in charge in Tehran. So this is like

00:00:57.160 completely unprecedented. I'm sure analysts who know her on so well are trying to figure out

00:01:00.840 what's happening. You know, John, think about even even when Supreme Leader Hominay, who was

00:01:06.440 killed in the beginning of this, was in charge. They still have a somewhat of a collective

00:01:10.660 decision making apparatus. And on big decisions, very hard for one person to say this is how it's

00:01:16.600 going to be. And I suspect in Tehran right now, you know, these messages going back and forth

00:01:21.900 have caused a debate.

00:01:24.120 There's probably fractures.

00:01:26.160 And what the Trump administration is asking Iran to do,

00:01:28.800 and they have a set of reasonable asks,

00:01:30.220 particularly on the nuclear program,

00:01:32.340 give up your enrichment program,

00:01:33.620 which has been in demand for some time,

00:01:35.580 Iran has never agreed to do that.

00:01:37.480 So if they were, John, to come in with a new position

00:01:40.000 and say, actually, we're going to accept

00:01:41.760 what the Americans are asking for,

00:01:43.420 we want to have a ceasefire, sanctions relief,

00:01:46.100 that's going to be a huge decision in their system.

00:01:48.180 And I don't think anyone right now in Tehran

00:01:50.200 is powerful enough to really make that decision fast.

00:01:53.200 I say one more thing, negotiating with the Iranians, nothing is ever fast. 1.00

00:01:57.200 It takes time. They deliberate.

00:02:00.180 They have this process they go through.

00:02:02.560 They always demand one change or another.

00:02:05.060 And that's when they had a system that you could somewhat predict.

00:02:08.880 So even more confusing now.

00:02:10.780 So, yeah, it's going to be hard to get a quick outcome here.

00:02:13.420 This new regime, because regime change has occurred, should be wiser than the last.

00:02:21.780 President Trump will make a deal, he is willing.

00:02:24.780 And the terms of the deal are known to them.

00:02:27.520 If Iran is not willing, then the United States War Department will continue with even more intensity.

00:02:34.680 Now share an operational update.

00:02:36.660 Our joint force continues to focus on our military objectives as we systematically continue to degrade and destroy Iran's ability to project power and threaten stability beyond its borders. 0.99

00:02:49.620 First, the joint force continues to destroy Iran's ballistic missile and UAS capabilities. 0.76

00:02:55.780 We remain focused on interdicting and destroying the logistical and supply chains that feed these programs.

00:03:02.620 And this remains a truly joint effort prosecuted around the clock from air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace.

00:03:11.060 Long-range bombers from U.S. Strategic Command are coordinating with tactical fighter aircraft from our joint force

00:03:17.260 launched from bases around the region and the continental United States.

00:03:21.360 While simultaneously Navy fighters from the sea and sailors continue to project power from the sea,

00:03:27.920 Army and Marine artillery units continue to execute long-range precision fires deep into enemy territory against high-value targets.

00:03:37.440 Meanwhile, on the defense side, our Army and Air Defenders and Aviators, as the Secretary talked about,

00:03:43.420 remain vigilant, forming a shield to protect our forces and our partners, intercepting missiles and drones.

00:03:50.080 Together, we continue to deliver precision strikes against key manufacturing nodes,

00:03:54.860 component storage sites, research facilities deep within Iranian territory.

00:04:01.040 And over the past 29, I'm sorry, 30 days, we've struck more than 11,000 targets.

00:04:07.020 Given the increase in air superiority, we've successfully started to conduct the first

00:04:12.700 overland B-52 missions, which allow us, as we've said before, to continue to get on top

00:04:19.360 of the enemy, and as the Secretary talked about, switch towards more and more dynamic targets,

00:04:27.000 servicing mobile targets around the battle space. We've continued to do the work against Iran's 1.00

00:04:34.680 missile, drone, and naval production facilities, and we continue the multi-domain pressure that

00:04:40.000 we've talked about. Second, on the Navy front, we continue to assert dominance over the Iranian 0.99

00:04:45.680 and Navy. We remain focused on targeting their mine lane capability, their naval assets, and we've

00:04:52.000 now, as I mentioned briefly last time, started to work attack helicopters and other close air

00:04:56.960 support assets into the naval domain. CENTCOM continues to identify and work against naval

00:05:03.920 depots and storage areas, and we've taken out, again, more than 150 ships, including all Jameran

00:05:11.200 class frigates inside their Navy. Third, we continue to prosecute our campaign

00:05:16.240 against our defense industrial base at scale. This includes factories,

00:05:20.860 warehouses, nuclear weapons, research and development labs, and the associated

00:05:25.900 infrastructure required for Iran to reconstitute its combat capability.

00:05:31.180 As far as President Trump and boots on the ground, I don't understand why the

00:05:37.600 base, which they have already, they understand wouldn't have faith in his

00:05:40.700 to execute on this.

00:05:42.200 Look at his track record of pursuing peace through strength,

00:05:45.900 America first outcomes. 0.81

00:05:47.840 What he's simply saying, and it's exactly true, 0.94

00:05:50.500 and I've said from this podium, too,

00:05:52.300 we're not going to foreclose any option.

00:05:54.460 You can't fight and win a war if you tell your adversary what you are willing

00:05:58.700 to do or what you are not willing to do, to include boots on the ground.

00:06:02.460 Our adversary right now thinks there are 15 different ways we could come

00:06:06.740 at them with boots on the ground.

00:06:07.940 And guess what?

00:06:08.940 There are.

00:06:09.940 So if we needed to, we could execute those options on behalf of the president of the United States and this department.

00:06:15.640 Or maybe we don't have to use them at all.

00:06:18.100 Maybe negotiations work, or maybe there's a different approach.

00:06:21.220 The point is to be unpredictable in that.

00:06:23.680 Certainly not let anybody know what you're willing to do or not do.

00:06:26.240 But if anybody has internalized the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan as the first one, President Trump, to call them out for what they are, he's not going to repeat those lessons.

00:06:35.420 And I think I've been very clear about that from the podium.

00:06:37.520 about removing iran's enriched uranium so has the strait which was not initially one of the

00:06:44.300 objectives of the war do you feel that the hormuz strait has become the top military objective for

00:06:49.400 the administration john it's hard to see how this ends if iran is controlling the strait of hormuz

00:06:55.320 and to say that that's been a strategic gain for the united states i think it's good if we're

00:06:59.780 taking out their missiles their drones their air force their navy their power projection

00:07:02.940 But the Strait of Hormuz is the artery of the global economy.

00:07:07.340 And here, Iran is demonstrating that it can basically control it. 0.92

00:07:11.080 And if you step back even further, John, and connect this to Russia and Ukraine and these Shahid drones, which we dealt with against our forces for years, they can travel about 1,000. 0.97

00:07:22.140 Some of them can travel longer than 1,000 miles.

00:07:24.920 They're very hard to find.

00:07:26.760 Iran has proliferated the technology to Russia.

00:07:29.020 That's how Russia is sustaining its war in Ukraine.

00:07:31.940 The Houthis in Yemen shot these things at tankers back in 2023, 2024, shut down the Red Sea.

00:07:37.740 This is like a hybrid warfare terrorism, and it is the future, and it's upon us.

00:07:43.640 And so that's what Iran is doing. 0.61

00:07:45.300 And now that means that it is a very good thing if we can actually take apart Iran's defense industrial base, 0.98

00:07:51.820 its ability to produce these things, these drones, these missiles.

00:07:55.200 But they have a lot of them.

00:07:56.520 They're using them.

00:07:57.180 They're proliferating them.

00:07:58.420 And the tactics are very similar to what Russia is doing in Ukraine.

00:08:01.360 just firing these things off at civilian targets and a tanker is a definition of a civilian uh 0.96

00:08:07.920 asset it's not it's not a military asset we've had some signaling that the u.s will retake

00:08:13.520 control of the Strait of Hormuz at that point what military posture will be imposed to guarantee

00:08:19.680 safe passage for our allies deter our enemies and demonstrate u.s dominance in the region and also

00:08:27.520 Can you speak to how much America's adversaries, Russia, China, North Korea,

00:08:33.000 how much they're supporting Iran's war machine at this point with arms and intelligence

00:08:37.480 and what we are militarily doing to punish the enemy coalition?

00:08:43.160 Appreciate both questions.

00:08:44.440 On the Strait of Hormuz, there are many more vessels flowing through today than there were,

00:08:49.240 as the president has arranged.

00:08:50.920 The president's been clear to Iran, open it for business, or we have options, and we certainly do.

00:08:55.840 And when you look at what the chairman laid out with the Navy, with the Navy industrial base, with coastal cruise missiles, with UAVs, with countermine capabilities, we've been focused from the beginning on a trading and defeating those capabilities and limiting their options.

00:09:08.440 There's lots we're doing as well, some of which is known, some of which is not known to set the conditions.

00:09:14.260 And I think the president was clear this morning in his truth that there are countries around the world who ought be prepared to step up on this critical waterway as well.

00:09:24.920 It's not just the United States Navy. Last time I checked, there was supposed to be a big, bad Royal Navy that could be prepared to do things like that as well.

00:09:32.740 So he's pointing out this is an international waterway that we use less than most, in fact, dramatically less than most.

00:09:38.260 So the world ought to pay attention to be prepared to stand up.

00:09:40.920 President Trump's been willing to do the heavy lifting on behalf of the free world to address this threat of Iran. 1.00

00:09:45.960 It's not just our problem set going forward, even though we have done the lion's share of preparation to ensure that that strait will be will be open,

00:09:53.580 which is an outcome the president's been very clear on.

00:09:56.960 As far as Russia and China, we know exactly what they're doing, what they are or are not doing.

00:10:01.000 We don't have to air publicly what all of that is.

00:10:04.160 But where necessary, we're addressing it, we're mitigating it, or we're confronting it head on.

00:10:10.140 The trend is that they are doubling down in Iran, which is unfortunate,

00:10:14.200 because if they start to deploy troops and they put troops on Iranian soil, it's just going to get worse.

00:10:18.720 And so it seems as though they're digging more and more as a way to justify and validate their initial decision to go in there.

00:10:24.660 And another trend I see, unfortunately, is with Israel. 0.94

00:10:28.040 Israel, they're going forward more and more in Lebanon. 0.93

00:10:31.560 They passed a law today in the Knesset that they're going to hang Palestinians, you know, who are found guilty, but they're not of murder.

00:10:39.940 But they're not going to hold Israelis to that same requirement.

00:10:44.340 A question for you and then a question for General Cain.

00:10:46.960 you said we're a month into the operation epic fury how long until the objectives are achieved

00:10:53.280 and is there a scenario where a deal is struck before the objectives have been achieved and then

00:10:58.720 for general kane there's been lots of media coverage that suggested a ground invasion is

00:11:04.320 imminent what other purposes might the soldiers and the marines who have been deployed over to

00:11:10.100 the middle east serve in this conflict well just like the previous question is sort of

00:11:15.660 military 101. Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do. And don't tell your

00:11:22.820 enemy when you're willing to stop, especially an enemy that likes to hide in bunkers and try to

00:11:26.980 hoard their missiles and hope he'll wait you out. So that's not a question I'm going to answer or

00:11:32.040 the president has said definitively, we have our own goals and guidance and things were military

00:11:37.040 objectives that we're moving toward and things that we look at. And as he's articulated, you

00:11:41.560 know he said four to six weeks six to eight weeks three it could be any any

00:11:46.120 particular number but we would never reveal precisely what it is because our

00:11:50.680 goal is to finish those objectives and we're well on our way and the chairman

00:11:54.760 I look at this every single day it will be the president's determination and the

00:11:58.180 president's determination alone when those objectives are complete and when

00:12:02.680 it serves the interest of the American people to cut that deal to make sure

00:12:06.840 that Iran doesn't have a nuclear capability and and ultimately that our

00:12:11.380 objectives are our interests are advanced i don't know if you want to add anything no just to answer

00:12:16.180 your question reagan you know the the range of military options that those forces can offer

00:12:22.420 are extensive not just limited to what you you mentioned in terms of forces on the ground and

00:12:27.620 i wouldn't want to take away the president's decision space but there are a multitude of things

00:12:33.460 not the least of which is iran should note that they're out there and that they they are a pressure

00:12:39.620 point and so they should carefully consider i think at the diplomatic level not not my job as

00:12:45.940 a chairman but at the diplomatic level to consider what's in front of them i did the same with his

00:12:50.420 boss a colonel with a heart the size of texas and a beautiful deployment mustache to match

00:13:01.380 i witnessed lethality i met a junior airman as the sun was going down and a chill was setting

00:13:08.500 on the tarmac, who, when asked what they needed, she simply looked up at me with a sly smile on

00:13:16.360 her face and said, more bombs, sir, and bigger bombs. We will happily oblige her. 0.95

00:13:28.280 It's Tuesday, 31 March, in the year of our Lord, 2026. We're into this thing about a month now,

00:13:33.780 press conference this morning at the Pentagon. We're going to have Neil McCabe at the White

00:13:38.220 House, David Zier back over at the Pentagon. Ben Harnwell is going to join us from Rome. Eric

00:13:42.560 Bolling is going to talk about markets. We're going to break all of this down because President

00:13:47.140 Trump, last night, severe bombing by the American and Israeli forces on military targets

00:13:56.260 of the Iranians. And then this morning, President Trump dropped another bombshell saying, hey, look,

00:14:01.720 if people won't step up here, we're just going to toss the keys to maybe the NATO allies and see

00:14:06.760 what they do in keeping the Strait of Hormuz open. We're going to break all of that down.

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00:16:28.480 For those viewers and listeners that have been with us for many, many years who've been doing this show, one of the great patriots and heroes you're familiar with is John Eastman.

00:16:38.400 John Eastman not only stepped into the breach about the stolen 2020 election, which now we know in Georgia and all these other places are, they're having dogfights about getting the evidence back of the steal.

00:16:50.020 John Eastman has been with the president and the MAGA movement fighting on every different front.

00:16:53.860 we covered it i think we were the only channel but definitely the show were me covered uh play

00:16:59.940 by play when they try to take john eastman's law license away and they've tried to bankrupt him

00:17:05.340 and other him more than any other i think individual a lawyer in this movement uh today

00:17:12.400 john eastman joins us john uh you're heading back to washington dc for this uh uh for this argument

00:17:18.560 in front of the supreme court tomorrow on the 14th amendment birthright citizenship and politico

00:17:23.480 had as it leads story this morning the journey of john eastman in in making this what they called

00:17:29.700 from a fringe theory to actually being argued at the supreme court and the federalists and some

00:17:36.340 of the smartest public intellectuals over the last week have basically said what eastman has

00:17:41.380 done is monumental because if you don't get this right you're not going to have a country and of

00:17:46.020 course peter schweitzer in that magnificent book uh that was a new york times bestseller

00:17:50.640 for five straight weeks. It was essential about these Chinese. He called them the Manchurian 0.99

00:17:55.380 voters. I think it's 1.4 million Chinese living in China that came over here for the birthright

00:18:01.700 tourism. So first off, John, tell us about your journey on this, and then let's get to the details

00:18:06.380 of the case. Well, it started, Steve, in one of the 9-11 terrorism cases, Yasser Issam Hamdi.

00:18:14.900 He was captured in Afghanistan, sent to Gitmo. And when they realized he'd been born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, they started treating him as a citizen. And former Attorney General of the United States Ed Meese and I filed a brief in that case saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, just because he was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, while his parents, Saudi nationals, were here on a temporary work visa, the dad was working on an oil rig off the coast of Louisiana, doesn't make him a citizen.

00:18:43.340 The 14th Amendment says you've got to be born here. That's requirement one. But you've got to be subject to the jurisdiction here as well and reside in a state. That means temporary visitors and certainly those who are here illegally are not covered by the automatic citizenship of the citizenship clause.

00:19:00.900 And that was the way we understood it for about a century and kind of gradually beginning in the 1950s or 60s, we moved away from that position. But President Trump's executive order restores the original meaning of the citizenship clause.

00:19:14.900 If you're here illegally, then you're not subject to the complete jurisdiction. You're not part of our political community. If you're here just temporarily, you're here by our grace. You have not joined our political community. You're a visitor. And that's what the original meaning meant, and that's what the original court decisions were. 0.83

00:19:32.460 That's what the original leading treatise writers of the 1870s said. That's what the secretaries of state said in the 1880s. So it's only more recently that we've adopted this more radical view that anybody born here, no matter the circumstances, are citizens.

00:19:48.500 talk to me about that how did this start shifting in the 50s and 60s since it was already pretty

00:19:55.580 established like what groups started to say oh no and and why did republicans or why particularly

00:20:01.220 conservatives and conservative legal scholars jurists etc congress why did they just continue

00:20:07.900 to look the other way well you know it started a bit under franklin roosevelt in the 1930s they

00:20:14.600 The Office of Legal Counsel produced a memo saying that anybody born here, no matter what, was a citizen. But that memo never got the force of law. When Congress updated the Immigration Act in 1938 and again in 1952, it just mirrored the language of the 14th Amendment.

00:20:32.120 So they clearly intended not to go any further than the 14th Amendment required them to go.

00:20:38.080 But beginning in the 19th, I've traced it to a change in the passport rules in 1966.

00:20:45.300 After a 1965 amendment to the passport requirements, somebody had to add some language to the passport application form.

00:20:55.720 And it used to say, if you were born here, then they had several questions about the status of your parents.

00:21:01.200 And I think some bureaucrat looked at it and said, well, I've got to get this back down to one page, and I don't know what relevance those questions have. So they just dropped it. And so now it's just if you're born here, you're treated as a citizen. That was 1966.

00:21:14.500 So before that, look, people say that Wong Kim Ark, a very important case in 1898, settled the question. But Wong Kim Ark's parents were permanently and lawfully domiciled in this country. And the court goes out of its way 28 different times it references the fact that they're domiciled here, that they're legally and permanently here.

00:21:36.580 But there's broader language in it. Most scholars, until Trump came on the scene pressing this issue in 2015, most scholars had agreed that the Wong Kim Ark decision didn't settle the question or even address the question of the children of illegal immigrants.

00:21:51.920 But the Trump derangement syndrome by most legal scholars is so strong that they started saying, oh, no, this has been settled for over 100 years, when in fact it hasn't been.

00:22:01.360 no msnbc and cnn every night and you can tell they're quite worried about this

00:22:08.860 from the time you and ed meese filed that walk me through what's happened because

00:22:13.620 in even in the political article they said this is another eastman was a fringe you know he was

00:22:18.580 a main guy on this uh on on the big steel uh but he always comes up with these fringe theories and

00:22:25.000 this is eastman at his best on on some french theory what have you had to go through uh from

00:22:30.220 the time of Ed Meese until it's argued tomorrow morning at the Supreme Court? Well, I've debated,

00:22:35.660 as the political article points out, I've debated the issue all over the country, law schools all

00:22:39.620 over the country, at judicial conferences with some other prominent scholars. And like I said,

00:22:45.700 up until Trump came on the scene and started pressing the issue, they all agreed with me

00:22:50.620 that 1KMR didn't settle this issue, but they disagreed with me that my views were right.

00:22:56.320 Although, look, I'm not the only scholar or even the first scholar that started looking at this. A very important book by Yale professors Roger Smith and Peter Shuck in the late 1980s did a thorough assessment of the original debates and came to the same conclusion that I did.

00:23:12.840 My colleagues at the Claremont Institute, Ed Erler and Tom West, very prominent 14th Amendment scholars, have come to the same conclusion. University of Texas law professor Lino Graglia, the late Lino Graglia, independently came to the same conclusion.

00:23:29.440 And more recently, as Trump's executive order has forced the issue to the front of academic discussion, very prominent scholars like Richard Epstein at University of Chicago and New York University have come to the same conclusion.

00:23:43.320 In fact, in my view, anybody that takes seriously the original arguments that were had over the development of the 14th Amendment in 1868 will come to the same conclusion that the Supreme Court did when it first confronted the issue, that leading scholars of that day came to, that the Secretary of State came to.

00:24:01.900 Look, in the 1880s, there were a couple of kids born to German parents or Scottish parents

00:24:06.860 visiting here, just to take this notion that this is somehow a racist position off the

00:24:11.220 table.

00:24:11.520 And the Secretary of State said, no, the parents were just temporarily here.

00:24:15.340 Their kids were not subject to the complete jurisdiction that is required by the 14th

00:24:20.240 Amendment because they continue to owe their allegiance to the foreign power, their parents' 0.97

00:24:25.140 nationality.

00:24:26.060 And that was the right answer.

00:24:27.700 And so all Trump's executive order does is bring us back to the original understanding of the 14th Amendment.

00:24:33.620 People say, well, most scholars disagree with Eastman.

00:24:35.880 Well, that's true.

00:24:36.880 Most scholars disagreed with me on the view that the power over interstate commerce did not extend to let the federal government regulate the entire economy.

00:24:45.500 And yet we won that issue in 1995.

00:24:48.380 Or that the 14th, the First Amendment doesn't prohibit states from giving school vouchers to religious schools.

00:24:55.800 Most scholars said that's silly. It's a violation of the Constitution. And we won that argument as well. And right now I've got teed up an issue about whether the spending clause lets Congress spend on whatever it wants or whether it's limited to the common defense and the national, the general welfare as the Constitution requires.

00:25:13.420 Most scholars disagree with me on that as well, but most of them aren't originalists, and they don't take seriously what the Constitution originally meant, as I do, and we tend to win on these things when we present the originalist arguments to a court that understands that the original understanding of the Constitution is actually, it's not a guidance, it's not a suggestion, it's actually mandatory on us.

00:25:35.540 is it just serendipity that peter schweitzer's book one of the central parts of it they're

00:25:42.520 talking about how immigration has been used as a weapon against the united states one of their 0.97

00:25:46.560 one of the most explosive things was this over a million uh chinese that have been born here for 1.00

00:25:52.680 this birth tourism to actually live in china today and potentially could vote also these great

00:25:57.780 journals uh like the federalists coming out and saying uh if you don't have talking about your

00:26:02.940 argument in making the case at the Supreme Court tomorrow, if you don't sort this out and you don't

00:26:08.060 get this right on the 14th Amendment, you're not going to have a country. Does that help make this

00:26:13.620 such a big deal tomorrow at the Supreme Court? I think it does, although it's not argued in that

00:26:19.720 way by either my brief or the Solicitor General's brief, which, by the way,

00:26:25.720 Solicitor General John Sauer and his team have done a fabulous job making the originalist case

00:26:30.940 here. But even beyond what Peter Schweitzer has published, and I think it's very opportune that

00:26:35.660 it's coming out, is I saw a report last week that of those one point some million Chinese

00:26:41.520 nationals that were born here and are treated as citizens, 200,000 of them of military-age young

00:26:48.080 men are back here in this country asserting their citizenship. That's an army. Our major enemy on 0.99

00:26:55.260 the world stage has an army of young military-aged men here claiming they're citizens because of this

00:27:01.380 ridiculous notion that we back into of birthright citizenship.

00:27:08.760 John, do we have a few minutes? I want to hold you through the break, or do you have to jump on

00:27:12.160 the plane right now? Do we have a few more minutes? They're starting to board, I'm afraid. I got to run.

00:27:18.320 Okay, okay, go ahead. Just give us your, we'll try to grab you tonight or tomorrow, just give us

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00:27:35.220 Eastman. And I'll try and do some updates there as well. Perfect. We'll get you back on. John,

00:27:42.580 you're a patriot and a hero. I don't think anybody, you know, maybe Rudy and Mike Lindell,

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00:29:54.900 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:57.380 okay just to um set the stage here tomorrow we are going to have special coverage

00:30:04.860 of this uh argument in the supreme court on the 14th amendment birthright citizenship

00:30:11.360 we know rosemary jinx is going to be there some other folks going to be there hopefully we've 1.00

00:30:15.180 got our own neil mccabe will be there outside the uh the supreme court we'll be uh talking to people

00:30:21.040 and of course listening to the some of the arguments is going to dip in and out of it

00:30:24.720 john sour representing the solicitor general of the united states and a guy just doing an

00:30:28.920 incredible job representing the government very very very important uh tomorrow on the 14th

00:30:34.920 amendment um also tomorrow the mass deportation coalition is as you remember on april they're

00:30:41.280 going to release their action plan i've had the honor of seeing a draft of that in the last 48

00:30:47.880 hours it is very powerful and tomorrow we're going to have members of the mass deportation

00:30:52.900 coalition on to discuss that mike hal and uh and many many more eric prince hopefully grab eric

00:31:00.900 there's so many members of this coalition it's kind of the coming together of some of the most

00:31:05.160 prominent names in this immigration fight and particularly we cannot take our eye off the ball

00:31:10.560 of mass deportations even if the lobbyist that continued to hammer the white house want us to

00:31:18.080 stop doing it you saw the poll yesterday we had rosemary jinx on from um punch bowl which k street

00:31:24.320 wants us to talk about anything else but mass deportation but thank god we got a mass deportation

00:31:28.780 coalition they put together an action plan that's pretty amazing so that's all tomorrow

00:31:33.540 because i realize sometimes in the war here in the last 30 days it's like that opening scene

00:31:38.920 and gone with the wind with scarlet her i think talking to the terror the tarlington twins war

00:31:44.360 war war all you boys talk about is war well we're going to talk about a lot more than that because

00:31:49.400 we've got so many things to cover but however first things first eric bowling we're going to

00:31:54.200 talk war and markets the press so the president and i've got harnwell in rome because i got to

00:31:58.640 talk about this nato situation which is quite disturbing mccabe's at the white house he's

00:32:04.580 going to give us assessment of this of this press briefing today it was a little light on specifics

00:32:10.160 but it had some very important things about overall but eric the president after lighting

00:32:16.360 up and he told guys i said hey if you start hitting oil uh facilities of the arabs i'm

00:32:24.080 going to have a reply and of course last night they they hit a tanker in kuwait and lit it up

00:32:31.060 the president's reply was quite stunning with i think 2 000 pound bombs uh and we played that

00:32:38.280 in the cold open. But he came back this morning and said, look, our work's about done. We're

00:32:44.680 hitting our objectives. And the Strait of Hormuz, you know, services Asia and services Europe.

00:32:51.380 And maybe it's time I toss the keys to guys because we're just not going to hang around here

00:32:55.300 forever if nobody's prepared to do any heavy lifting. And the Israelis said they're not

00:33:00.200 going to do boots on the ground. They're tied up in Lebanon. The Arab nations have just put out, 1.00

00:33:05.100 I think a communique saying we need the United States to take this to its ultimate conclusion against Iran, yet they're not prepared to commit militarily. 0.61

00:33:16.100 Your thoughts, and particularly what the markets are telling us about what has gone on in the last 12 hours.

00:33:22.860 Great assessment of bringing us up to speed.

00:33:25.320 One other thing in those last, I'd say, 15 hours, maybe 12, Bahrain has declared a force majeure, which we know is really a trigger word for traders around the world.

00:33:36.460 There's a problem with supply, and that drives prices up.

00:33:39.140 Russia has threatened a force majeure for whatever reason, also driving prices up.

00:33:43.440 So what happened was yesterday, Trump said, open the Strait of Hormuz and come to the market.

00:33:49.420 Hang on, hang on, hang on for a second.

00:33:51.380 I just want the audience, I just want the understanding.

00:33:53.300 I want the, hang on, Eric.

00:33:54.560 I want the audience to understand, when you say force majeure, that is them telling the world that contracts we signed at much lower prices, we're going to walk away from those contracts because of act of God, act of war, act of nature.

00:34:08.340 It's all defined under force majeure.

00:34:10.620 It means we're tearing up the contract, and when we re-sign the contract with you, it'll be at these much higher prices for oil and gas.

00:34:17.520 is that the force majeure is a weapon that can be used and here it's being used by our allies in the

00:34:23.980 gulf who refuse to support us militarily want our defense or whining about why we're not doing a

00:34:29.700 better job of defending them they're now starting to tear up these contracts to get higher prices 0.95

00:34:35.360 is that is is that the takeaway the audience should have about the the importance and power

00:34:40.840 of uh this concept of force majeure exactly right steven we you know we brought this out before

00:34:47.040 anyone declared a force majeure that I said we talked about the likelihood is they would be

00:34:51.820 declaring force majeure whether they need to or not because it's literally a paragraph in almost

00:34:56.560 every single business contract whether it's oil or not you can see it we probably see a force majeure

00:35:01.560 in any sort of other types of deals contracts as well and you're right it's it's act of god

00:35:06.960 act of nature act of war it basically covers it but so it gave these folks these arab countries 0.86

00:35:12.920 Now Russia's joining the party to rip up the contracts that they settle at, who knows, $50, $60 a barrel, $65, and reinstitute them in the case of Brent, which is now trading $118 a barrel today, up $5 more, even on the heels of what would some, I'll tell you, the equity markets, the stock market, thought what Trump said this morning was a positive thing, relieving the pressure.

00:35:36.640 Stocks rallied up.

00:35:37.780 Oil market didn't come down because the oil folks have probably been burned a couple of times

00:35:42.660 because we hear Trump say, we're about to win this, or they're obliterated,

00:35:47.300 and then Iran bombs more oil infrastructure.

00:35:50.840 It happened last night again.

00:35:51.700 So oil traders, and not speculators, the actual guys trading the oil,

00:35:56.020 the people I talked to, the refiners, the petroleum transporters, the producers,

00:36:00.380 they believe higher prices are in the cards going forward.

00:36:04.100 So here's the mixed signal you get.

00:36:06.860 Yesterday, Trump says,

00:36:08.480 to Iran, open the strait,

00:36:09.900 get to the negotiating table,

00:36:11.080 or you're done.

00:36:12.060 We're going to hit water plants,

00:36:13.140 we're going to hit power plants,

00:36:14.580 and you're going to be finished.

00:36:15.780 And then today we wake up,

00:36:17.360 a much softer tone.

00:36:18.780 I think this is very smart.

00:36:20.440 He says, you know what?

00:36:21.200 Our work is almost done here.

00:36:23.060 I'll tell you what,

00:36:23.820 European Union,

00:36:25.000 you're ball now.

00:36:25.840 You're the ones at most risk.

00:36:27.200 China, you're at most risk 1.00

00:36:28.460 for not getting this oil through the strait.

00:36:30.980 You take over from here,

00:36:32.140 especially since none of the Arab countries

00:36:33.680 want to join Boots on the Ground, which is really the only way to truly get it done.

00:36:37.980 I think that was a positive.

00:36:39.540 To the point, Steve, and I will tell you this, I'll tell your audience this, I've told them

00:36:42.460 in the past, I texted Pete Hexeth and Susie Wiles this morning, because we had sent them

00:36:47.920 that discussion we had about the off-ramp.

00:36:51.120 If they were looking for an off-ramp that all parties are made whole, and Trump looks

00:36:55.560 like an absolute hero businessman by cutting that oil deal with Iran and Venezuela using

00:37:01.360 our oil companies, I sent it to both of them and said, hey, don't forget, we sent you this

00:37:06.140 a couple of weeks ago. This is the perfect off-ramp for all parties involved. No loss

00:37:10.640 of life. And Trump will be the guy who signs a deal that gives us oil independence for

00:37:15.320 the rest of our lives. I mean, it's such a winner. So I think him moving off, we're going

00:37:20.460 to obliterate you, unless you relent, to, hey, we did our job. Europe, Asia, it's on 0.82

00:37:27.060 you pick up take take over from here your ball your turn good good your your theory is that i

00:37:34.440 think the i think the president's kind of mentioned it he says hey why don't i just you know we all

00:37:39.580 think about just seizing their oil right i mean your your your idea is a nicer way a contractual

00:37:46.620 way to do that but essentially it's this it's it's it's it's you get to the same place don't

00:37:52.660 no no you don't because remember you want to do a deal with the hostile government these people

00:37:58.360 are fanatics they'll they'll fight to the death they'll continue to to do things hit up hit u.s

00:38:03.620 interest in the region even at home maybe the sleeper cells what you do is you cut the deal

00:38:08.860 with our oil companies the u.s oil companies go in negotiate a deal that they produce the

00:38:13.320 extra barrels we get the barrels at fair market price and they continue to to live their fanatical

00:38:18.640 religious fanatical lives and we we just step away and go we got a great deal we got a wonderful deal

00:38:24.760 for for our economy for the rest of uh you know certainly tied to oil for the rest of our lifetimes

00:38:30.680 and iran can say we we fought off the you know the american big american beast and and they they

00:38:36.880 they cut a deal with us so that's the best negotiation steve you know this the best

00:38:41.320 negotiation anywhere is when both sides feel like they didn't get everything they want but they go

00:38:47.380 they walk away with a lot of what they wanted and this is the off ramp for it hopefully it gets to

00:38:53.760 that point and again our oil companies have to be at the center of that so that we ensure the fact

00:38:58.320 that we're getting that oil first we want it great we don't want to throw it on the throw it

00:39:02.760 on the international market is any of this practical because one of the let's just say

00:39:10.480 inconsistencies is that we're saying that we're degrading these one of the objectives is to degrade

00:39:15.800 so there's no force projection or power projection against israel against the gulf

00:39:20.460 emirates what they call regionally and that hasn't been 100 done yet but they're deflanging

00:39:26.300 and declawing but on the strait of her moves if they in asymmetric warfare essentially have 0.98

00:39:31.820 command by negation let's say they don't have maybe total control but they can command to

00:39:36.660 not allow uh they may end up here enforce their will on everything but they at least stop the

00:39:42.100 ships from going in and they still as you saw last night with the kuwaiti tanker every now and again

00:39:47.440 even a scattershot approach they can light one up is it reasonable to just tell the allies hey uh

00:39:54.760 it's your baby uh and you and the arabs uh figured out when it hasn't been it looks like with the

00:40:01.540 scatterguns still able to hit and probably more you know mines speedboats etc still out there

00:40:08.200 that to toss it to either the oil companies

00:40:10.860 and your theory of the case

00:40:13.320 and or the Arab and European allies

00:40:16.500 to actually go make something happen

00:40:18.260 when it looks like now it's not probably 100% there.

00:40:23.580 So a couple of things there, a couple of thoughts there.

00:40:25.200 You said our allies, and I know you, Steve.

00:40:27.820 You would like to be putting air quotes

00:40:29.840 around the word allies

00:40:30.940 because their interest in the Middle East

00:40:33.340 and frankly, Russia are higher oil prices.

00:40:35.940 So they're doing everything in their power.

00:40:38.200 encouraging Trump to quote-unquote finish the job. That means more troops, maybe troops on the

00:40:43.940 ground, more bombings. That elevates oil prices for the, you know, intermediate future, not just

00:40:50.520 the short-term future. The intermediate future could be a year, could be two years. And what

00:40:54.780 that does, who wins in that? Who wins in that? The other thought is, don't they effectively

00:41:01.400 control the Strait of Hormuz now? I mean, anytime they want, they can do that. And they've proven

00:41:07.380 And we're three, almost four weeks into this conflict, and we don't have a ship in there.

00:41:12.720 And the only ships that are going are the ones that both Iran and the U.S. agree are allowed to go through.

00:41:18.220 So they do have it, and they'll probably always have it, unless the Saudis want to step up. 1.00

00:41:22.080 They're on the other side of the Strait of Hormuz and take that control.

00:41:25.320 But why is it the U.S.?

00:41:27.220 The reality is, Steve, we use West Texas Intermediate.

00:41:29.980 We produce most of the oil we need right here.

00:41:32.800 We don't need Middle Eastern oil if we don't have to, especially with that deal. 0.99

00:41:36.760 We can actually even work on Venezuela, Canada, and Mexico to increase our purchases there.

00:41:42.080 So the reason why West Texas Intermediate, our oil is $1.04 today, and Brent is $1.18 today, and Middle Eastern Omani crude, others are $1.50 today, is because it's a regional issue.

00:41:54.120 It's not really our issue.

00:41:55.680 Somewhat is because oil is a global commodity.

00:41:58.540 But, you know, in other words, one price raises all prices.

00:42:02.020 But to the extent that we say we have all the production we need, go ahead, close it straight.

00:42:07.380 We have our production.

00:42:08.320 We're good.

00:42:08.880 We're good to go.

00:42:09.960 Why are we fighting, risking our young people's lives is really the only way to truly, truly take over Iran and regime change and get that oil.

00:42:21.260 Why would we risk that?

00:42:22.500 It seems like our outcome isn't worth the risk.

00:42:27.340 You were the first one to observe yesterday where President Trump, yesterday morning,

00:42:32.380 President Trump normally said something accommodating that oil would drop.

00:42:37.780 Yesterday was the first time it didn't.

00:42:39.000 In fact, it went up and then surged at the end of the day.

00:42:41.640 What has happened with his comments about having the allies take over the Strait of Hormuz and the Persian Gulf?

00:42:48.220 What has oil done today?

00:42:51.180 Up.

00:42:52.780 West Texas Intermediate is basically flat, trading $103, $104 a barrel.

00:42:57.340 which is where it was not at the close yesterday.

00:43:01.320 It was 101 at the close yesterday.

00:43:02.760 It ran up after the close because of Russia saying they may force majeure oil.

00:43:07.140 So it was at 104 after, like in the European trading or Asian trading.

00:43:11.960 This morning, it opened up about the same price, but Brent jumped up $5 a barrel,

00:43:16.120 the Brent that a lot of the Middle Eastern crudes are tied to price-wise.

00:43:21.420 So that jumped up.

00:43:22.660 So no one in the oil trading community is ready to say all clear yet.

00:43:26.640 The equity market has a different thought.

00:43:28.860 They love to hear what they heard, and equities are up today substantially,

00:43:33.980 400 or 500 points in the Dow, but the oil guys are not buying it.

00:43:38.600 Eric, you've got to do the show.

00:43:40.120 We'll see you in the afternoon and hopefully do a turnover.

00:43:42.380 Yes, sir.

00:43:42.860 We'll have more to report.

00:43:45.040 Eric Bolling, great job.

00:43:48.220 Brent Oil, $118 a barrel.

00:43:51.340 Sure great.

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00:45:25.460 War Room.

00:45:26.480 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:45:31.500 Okay, McCabe at the White House, Neil McCabe.

00:45:34.520 um it was a little different this morning i want to make note that uh cnn and then i think fox

00:45:44.040 news my ever crack team because we're we're at fox news i think both cut away no cnn definitely

00:45:49.960 cut away about two-thirds of the way through it i believe fox news cut away before it's over

00:45:55.600 msnbc took it almost to the end and then they cut away uh it was quite interesting uh mccabe your

00:46:01.780 assessment of what you heard this morning over at the White House from the Pentagon press conference.

00:46:08.100 Yeah, I'll just pile on C-SPAN radio also cut out about halfway through for what it's worth.

00:46:15.120 Speaking as a retired senior public affairs NCO in the United States Army Reserve,

00:46:20.420 it's important to look at not what is said, but why it is said, what is not said, and why it is

00:46:27.660 not said. First thing Hegseth says is morale is high. Our personnel are excited. They want more

00:46:35.640 bombs and they're operating at a high tempo. And so that's great news. Also that our allies are

00:46:44.040 AWOL. There's a Anglo-French word, succor, which basically is what Hegseth is saying is that our

00:46:50.900 allies and friends are giving suker to the Iranians.

00:46:55.260 Cain, interestingly, name-checked defense contractors and the civilians working on sort

00:47:02.020 of that industrial complex, producing that equipment and munitions and war materiel.

00:47:07.820 I thought that was interesting that he would make that effort to reach out to them.

00:47:13.400 And also, what is not said, USS Barkser was steaming with two other ships.

00:47:20.040 It was a three-ship task force steaming for Epic Fury.

00:47:25.980 It just pulled into Florida, excuse me, not Florida, Hawaii, for a port call.

00:47:31.840 And so that tells me that maybe they're off-ramping some of those Marines,

00:47:35.980 and maybe that plays into why they're throwing away the keys, Steve.

00:47:41.200 No, it's very, the Boxer, yeah, the Boxer you would think would be all engines ahead flying

00:47:47.280 to get to across the Western Pacific through the Straits of Malacca

00:47:50.460 and then into the Indian Ocean, North Arabian Sea.

00:47:53.680 Clearly, there is either some issue they want to take care of in port,

00:47:57.680 but they pulled into Pearl Harbor.

00:48:00.340 I want you to go back to a buried lead you just talked about.

00:48:03.940 The tempo of this fight, ladies and gentlemen, is pretty impressive.

00:48:07.960 I mean, every night, these guys are at battle stations, general quarters.

00:48:13.880 They're doing flight ops 24 hours a day.

00:48:16.180 that means the destroyers are out there as pickets uh you know the the these um these two

00:48:22.440 carrier strike groups or at least one carrier strike group because one's in um one's in port

00:48:27.720 up in uh up in uh the eastern med uh it's pretty impressive the morale is high as reported by the

00:48:34.740 secretary of defense and everything we everything yeah everything we can see and they're doing this

00:48:38.980 in a really up-tempo environment, sir.

00:48:43.580 I'll say this, that the overall message from this presser

00:48:47.620 was that we are winning tactically and operationally,

00:48:53.200 and the Iranians are deserting, the morale is broken,

00:48:58.440 and so from our perspective here at the Pentagon,

00:49:02.340 everything is going great, and it's up to the geopolitical guys

00:49:06.340 to figure out how to exploit our success it's also though one of the implications and i think

00:49:14.780 this is one of the difficulties the administration's had you've done you've shattered their

00:49:18.660 command and control and not just the electronics and all that but you've also gone down almost i

00:49:22.720 think to the brigade level they tell me uh for the revolutionary guard it makes it even harder

00:49:28.620 to find somebody even take the call to negotiate but more importantly somebody can actually make

00:49:35.220 a deal stick that if you're negotiating with them it's just not on a piece of paper but they actually

00:49:39.820 have influence because you can tell from this brief and other things that we're hearing they

00:49:44.580 have shattered now they dispersed and they're going to fight and this is why someone could

00:49:49.040 fight on forever but any kind of centrality that you would need to try to make some deal

00:49:54.340 is is is hard for the simple reason you've dropped the hammer blow on them and folks i just don't

00:49:59.800 know if everybody realizes every night they're having another hammer blow as only the United

00:50:05.820 States military can deliver, Neil. Yeah, well, they're looking for where is Marshal Tito,

00:50:12.600 right? Where's that rogue guy who declares himself a warlord? And he just says, OK,

00:50:18.800 these six provinces are mine and I'm cutting a deal. So far, ideologically, it's holding,

00:50:25.440 but there has to be a Tito to emerge.

00:50:30.500 Neil, what's the what's the feeling over at the at the White House?

00:50:33.920 I know people are hunkered down. I think they've put I think they've canceled tours.

00:50:38.080 It's it's it's very, you know, it's kind of general quarters over there, 24 hours a day.

00:50:43.000 I realize that gets, you know, people's nerves get frayed.

00:50:46.400 What's your sense of the White House? How are things hanging together over there?

00:50:52.400 There's like two realities. About half an hour ago, J.D. Vance's motorcade rolled in.

00:50:58.780 he walked into the West Wing. The president right now is in what they call executive time. So he's

00:51:04.060 in meetings, all that's closed to the press. And then tonight, the president and Melania are going

00:51:09.700 to go to the Trump Kennedy Center for the opening night of Chicago. And so there's, you know,

00:51:15.600 there's two different realities going on. There's the war track, and then everything is fine track,

00:51:19.860 Steve. Yeah, this is as usual. Neil, where do people get you reporting 24-7? Tomorrow,

00:51:26.560 We're going to I'll talk to you after the show. Want to deploy you if it if the war can spare you, deploy you over to the Supreme Court for this historic argument of the U.S. government about getting rid of the birthright citizenship.

00:51:40.660 Where do people get you, sir?

00:51:44.200 Steve, they can find me on all the socials at Reporter McCabe.

00:51:50.100 Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. OK, what we're going to do is take a short commercial break.

00:51:54.780 we're going to be back uh we've got we're going to go to rome there's so much to report this

00:51:59.740 morning most of this discussion has now shifted as we've been talking about for the last couple

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Bannon's War Room - March 31, 2026

Episode 5260： Hegseth And Cain Hold Press Briefing; Updates On The War In Iran

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