Bannon's War Room - Episode 5261： The Mutiny In NATO

00:00:00 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:10 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do

00:00:21 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and

00:00:24 Where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:27 MAGA Media.

00:00:28 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:00:47 okay well tuesday 31 march year of our lord 2026 we're through the first quarter of 2026

00:00:58 wow and we're in the middle of a war maybe not in the middle of it maybe towards the end of it

00:01:05 president trump uh is uh is working towards that we got a lot more we're going to get back to

00:01:09 birthright citizenship tomorrow the mass deportation coalition also going to have the

00:01:14 airports are now people are flowing through shocking when you pay people and they show up

00:01:18 and of course the ice agents deployed have been spectacular we're talking about that todd blanche

00:01:26 from the stage at cpac the other day saying that he 100 agrees with the war room that we can and

00:01:32 will send um send ice agents to the polls in uh in the fall all that we're going to get to i want

00:01:39 me get back to so ben harmore joins me from ben let me do the level set here and then i need you

00:01:46 to jump in uh this war we've got uh we've got israel as an ally america's greatest ally

00:01:53 we have the gulf nations where president trump's gone over and done you know done these um last

00:02:00 spring did this big uh uh meeting over there of all the business opportunities and dubai's the

00:02:05 new influencer capital of the world everybody's moving over there and it's all great and you know

00:02:10 the islam is all great and it's fantastic and it's a religion of peace etc etc etc and then our

00:02:17 then our nato allies so we've been underwriting you know bail them out world war one bail them

00:02:23 out in world war two and i mean really bail them out both times bail them out in the cold war

00:02:27 rebuilt europe um and then paid for the defense for decade after decade after decade won the cold

00:02:34 war with some help from them but not enough some help from them and now i've underwritten this and

00:02:41 as president trump you know said hey maybe you should pay two percent in the first term which 0.95

00:02:46 they committed to after the ukraine situation all they did was was whine and bitch and moan 0.99

00:02:51 and so now we're in a situation where there's a shooting war and we have 50 000 young american 0.84

00:03:00 men and women in harm's way. And we've put forward to the Congress a $200 billion butcher's bill for

00:03:10 this to be paid for, I guess, by Congress. And we've argued from the beginning, hey, just like

00:03:15 in the Gulf War in the early 90s, the Arab nations and maybe Israel passed the hat. We don't care who 0.93

00:03:22 puts the most in, but if the number's $200 billion, we want the hat to add up to $200 billion.

00:03:27 and by the way we want to see where your armies are if we're going to take karg island

00:03:32 we want the uae guys those special forces because they've got a really good

00:03:36 small army but if punches way above their weight we want to see them on the first wave

00:03:41 we want to see the idf in there we want to see the saudi infantry in there um and it looks like

00:03:48 we're getting the exact opposite i think the gulf nations put out a proclamation

00:03:51 overnight saying they wanted the united states to continue and to finish the job here

00:03:56 but no commitment of their of their of their of their of their military president trump did say

00:04:04 hey i think we got to look to you guys to pay for this israel came back yesterday and lisa was it

00:04:09 was i think the channel the independent channel was a 12 which is normally pretty accurate came

00:04:15 back and said officials said we got our hands full in this ground war in lebanon we're not

00:04:20 gonna be of any help but thanks for you know thanks for asking but you know no no troops

00:04:25 no combat troops no boots on the ground and that's bad enough because that's the region that

00:04:30 we're in there remember the number three purpose of this military operation is to make sure that

00:04:36 the Iranians can't project power regionally and that would be against Israel and of course against 0.99

00:04:42 our great Arab allies but the one I think sticks in the crawl the most and looks like it's sticking 1.00

00:04:47 the crawl of the president the most is the Europeans because the Strait of Hormuz is either 0.67

00:04:53 it's either going to asia or it's going to europe and the red sea down with the houthis is also as

00:04:58 canal is all going up to europe and i think we have the british uh are in the mumble tank nothing

00:05:05 happening there france nothing happening there the italians and the spanish the spanish are going

00:05:11 out of their way to kind of hurt us not even say they're not going to cooperate but you know you

00:05:15 can't use spanish airspace the italians georgia maloney the bridge between president trump

00:05:20 in europe has uh has said we're not going to do it and i think even poland said hey look

00:05:25 when you talk about our patriots or dads or whatever we're worried about the russians 1.00

00:05:30 you know we love you guys but we don't know if we're going to be able to do it give me assessment

00:05:34 and let's start in europe and you just sent me a story just as you're about to come on about

00:05:40 it looks like some of our great allies over there are dumping u.s treasuries which we've

00:05:45 the audience that was going to happen and that's why maybe more than ever you got to get the end

00:05:50 of the dollar empire because uh for as much as we and this is what for europe starting a hundred

00:05:57 years ago to bail these the aristocracy out to bail these feckless nations out in world war ii 0.86

00:06:04 to fight the cold war to do it all and now that be this whole thing with russia and the ukraine

00:06:09 situation of which and by the way if we give a security guarantee and do anything to help these

00:06:15 people in ukraine people ought to have their heads examined because i warned you and i told you on 1.00

00:06:21 this show and ben harnwell told you this is who they are and they're showing you who they are

00:06:25 and they want an american security guarantee they want us up at the line of contact ukraine

00:06:29 hey put it where the sun don't shine ben harnwell the floor is yours sir well steve that's such a

00:06:37 magisterial synthesis i've basically flagged up four or five different articles i was going to

00:06:41 bounce off um progressively let's start off with yeah i mean that's basically the situation president

00:06:46 trump has sent out invitations to his best mates asking for rsvps and the responses are coming in

00:06:53 saying thanks love to but prior engagement so sorry um it's it's been tragic to watch even from

00:07:04 my glittering beady cynical eyes let's start off with the ft article um because i think that's

00:07:10 that really is quite substantial uh because this shows you what your friends and allies who who

00:07:16 who will never say no to schlepping over to the white house for the photo or actually doing

00:07:21 behind the scenes so um since february the 25th don't forget the the takeout of the uh of the

00:07:29 Ayatollah was on the 28th. So from this, according to the Fed's own data, Steve, since February the

00:07:34 25th, nations have sold $82 billion worth of treasuries. Now, it's difficult to pinpoint who

00:07:45 exactly has been doing this. So the FT suggests it's Turkey and India. Turkey has sold $22 billion

00:07:52 worth of treasuries, but not necessarily exclusively US treasuries, just $22 billion

00:07:58 dollars worth of bonds, of central bank holdings. So those are the two figures. And I flag up

00:08:08 India and Turkey specifically. Turkey, Prime Minister Modi always very happy to go over to

00:08:15 the White House for the photo op, but here protecting his own nation's interest. Erdogan,

00:08:23 NATO ally

00:08:25 EDEM

00:08:27 let's look at either the Spanish 0.98

00:08:30 and Italian

00:08:32 developments because these are interesting

00:08:34 different in their

00:08:36 responses but just

00:08:38 the no is just as firm

00:08:40 and just as unyielding

00:08:42 so Spain

00:08:44 socialist

00:08:45 Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez

00:08:48 a month or so ago said

00:08:49 no you can't use

00:08:52 you can't land

00:08:53 and flying to the Middle East.

00:08:55 You cannot use the two military bases, Rota and Moron.

00:09:00 It's actually called Moron.

00:09:02 You can't use either.

00:09:03 And these are joint Spanish and American bases.

00:09:08 And then yesterday, out comes the escalation from that.

00:09:13 Now, if an escalation were indeed possible,

00:09:16 Spain has closed its airspace to US military flights heading to the Middle East.

00:09:23 But Spain's, Italy's development, our dear friend Giorgia Fony Maloney, is, as you would expect, slightly more well-placed.

00:09:35 But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on.

00:09:37 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on, slow down.

00:09:41 It's one thing to say I'm not, even with the British, was it Fairmont?

00:09:45 for the british say hey we need six hours because we have 51 muslim members of commons and you know

00:09:52 we're we're basically controlled by the muslims now and so we need six hours of optics before 1.00

00:09:58 we can let you fly or it's one thing you're going to get into maloney and others but to close the

00:10:03 airspace and particularly rhoda spain is a major naval uh facility to close to actually close the

00:10:10 airspace adds a massive logistics issue to the united states i mean that puts people in harm's

00:10:17 way we had this problem and i think it was with france when they closed their airspace during the

00:10:22 attack on qaddafi back in those days and we had a couple of f b-111 bombers that are fighter

00:10:28 bombers that actually i think went into the drink because they ran out of fuel um back in i think

00:10:35 84 uh 85 but um this is a big deal for a government that's supposed to be allied with us

00:10:42 that a government that we have supposedly a working relationship to close the airspace in

00:10:48 the middle of a shooting war is uh that is telling you we're not your ally and you know we got a

00:10:56 problem with what you're doing and we got a problem with how you're doing it so tell me about

00:11:00 spain for a second because i think that's we've understood that it's a probably the most socialist

00:11:05 and you've got a bunch of people you see all the time these marxists up there that get up there and

00:11:10 say yeah we believe in the replacement theory we want to take as many migrants from north africa

00:11:14 as possible and replace the population particularly if you're right wing i mean they're up on your

00:11:19 grill saying if you're a right winger we would rather have a muslim fighting age male migrant

00:11:25 with all the danger that brings from North Africa than have you that are part of Vox or part of some 0.73

00:11:31 of these other parties, maybe even farther right than Vox. But for the Spanish government to say,

00:11:36 and this is, folks, it's the great demasking, the unmasking. I mean, how can Spain sit there

00:11:42 and say, we're not going to allow you to use your airspace when we've got a working agreement with

00:11:49 them sir well steve you have put your finger on it uh closing your airspace to another country is

00:11:56 what you do in military conflict and you close your airspace to those countries either that

00:12:02 you're fighting against directly or in the second order sense uh to those countries that are allied

00:12:08 to the people that you're fighting so it's one of those two categories that you that you block

00:12:12 airspace to um you don't block airspace to your own allies um so that's absolutely right and that

00:12:19 point needs to be made the the spanish question is um rather i find it difficult to i mean i get

00:12:28 where they're coming from being spain but their argument is basically this is illegal um to use

00:12:33 these bases because this isn't um a nato war there's no article five here um the problem is

00:12:40 The two bases here, they aren't NATO bases.

00:12:43 They are Spanish-American operated bases.

00:12:48 So then the NATO dynamic is really a foreign excuse here.

00:12:53 Obviously, Spain is a NATO ally, but it's not a formal NATO base.

00:12:56 Like, for example, you have a formal NATO base in Naples in Italy, not an operational base.

00:13:02 It's a headquarters.

00:13:02 The actual, again, American-Italian-run base is the one in Sigonella in Sicily.

00:13:11 That's the one that the Italians said no to.

00:13:16 While the plane was mid-flight, they said, no, no, you can't land here.

00:13:19 You haven't given us the notice to say that you're coming in because we need notice.

00:13:25 We need to discuss this in Parliament.

00:13:27 This gets back to a debate that a lot of people didn't focus on years ago

00:13:31 and saying that, you know, because Road to Spain, these were our bases.

00:13:35 And with, I guess, long-term leases.

00:13:37 And then we got in this situation.

00:13:39 We made them joint bases.

00:13:40 We had some agreement with the Spanish government.

00:13:42 And now in a shooting war where the United States has young men and women in harm's way

00:13:47 and we have the nation's prestige on the line, we're trying to accomplish things.

00:13:50 They just sit there and shut it down.

00:13:52 I mean, this is a problem, a big problem.

00:13:55 I don't know why we're not going back to Spain and say, hey, look, thanks for the memories.

00:13:58 But actually, they're our bases.

00:14:00 and we're going to do what we want to do.

00:14:02 I mean, this is outrageous.

00:14:04 And particularly, you have such a radical government.

00:14:06 I mean, they're up in your face all the time

00:14:08 about the harder elements of that government

00:14:12 about a replacement theory.

00:14:16 Ben, hang on for one second.

00:14:17 We're going to stick here because President Trump

00:14:18 has put people on notice that,

00:14:22 hey, look, I don't know how long we're going to be here.

00:14:25 We've got a punch list of our objectives.

00:14:27 And once they're done, we're probably moving on.

00:14:29 And, you know, to stop and make sure that we don't have world economic turmoil, somebody's going to have to step up here.

00:14:36 And we don't actually have a lot of people that are saying, oh, yeah, I can do that.

00:14:40 In fact, they're saying the exact opposite.

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00:16:22 war room here's your host stephen k van

00:16:25 war and the rumor of wars remember what they say that uh i think it's mike tyson's quote

00:16:36 everybody's got a strategy in either boxing or in war until you make the first contact with the

00:16:41 enemy in fact he says until you get punched in the face the first time then it's all and the

00:16:46 same thing with war first contact with the enemy everything changes uh that's why david zier is

00:16:51 going to join us in a moment our pentagon correspondent is just doing a great job and

00:16:56 that's what takes the professionalism and the planning but particularly just training training

00:17:03 training all the time so become second nature and especially when things go wrong that the

00:17:10 and remember these young kids you these are 18 19 year old sailors uh the uh the marines uh army

00:17:18 the airmen you got these enlisted people that come in the kids are very very young you got

00:17:23 non-commissioner officers are not as neil can tell you not that much older then you have an officer

00:17:28 corps and the officers start very young in their early 20s um it's just you couldn't be prouder

00:17:34 of them because they know how to basically think through a situation and make it second nature and

00:17:39 that just comes from practice and drill drill drill so it's second nature especially in times

00:17:45 when things don't go right when you're up in general quarters and the tempo this goes back

00:17:49 to what we said at the beginning of the show the tempo here is is pretty astounding 30 days into

00:17:56 this i think it's 11 or 12 000 sorties they've had or targets with another 3 500 or 4 000 go and

00:18:03 they're always coming up pete talked today about dynamic targeting which is what happens when

00:18:08 you're actually in the mission you've already got a pre-planned target and a target of opportunity

00:18:13 comes up that's dynamic targeting so they're adding things all the time the um one things we

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00:19:19 today to really talk to home title lock and make sure that you have this locked down tom simons

00:19:25 is a retired uh field special agent for the fbi and this kind of especially tom what i love is

00:19:31 you come on and you uh and you give us examples from real life and i sit there and go this can't

00:19:38 this couldn't happen you go no it actually did happen and this is what people have to understand

00:19:43 particularly your home there are trillions of dollars of these assets in the united states

00:19:47 the home ownership and people particularly bad guys understand this is a very vulnerable system

00:19:53 in the state and local authorities not going to do anything make it better you have to take it

00:19:57 you have to do it on your own.

00:19:59 What do you got for us today, Tom?

00:20:00 I got a crazy story for you today.

00:20:02 I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't true.

00:20:04 At the center of the storm is a realtor named Glenis Cardona

00:20:07 who worked with three co-conspirators

00:20:09 to steal a $1.5 million house in Burbank, California.

00:20:14 Here's how she did it. 1.00

00:20:16 She orchestrated the sale of this house 0.99

00:20:18 from an unknowing owner

00:20:20 to the stolen identity of an unwitting buyer.

00:20:23 And then she arranged for lenders

00:20:25 to fund $975,000 of the home sale

00:20:28 using forged deeds filed with the county clerk's office.

00:20:32 Then the trick was Glenis was also the escrow agent

00:20:35 for the transaction.

00:20:36 So when the lender sent the money to escrow,

00:20:39 it was Glenis and her crew who received the money

00:20:41 and split it among themselves.

00:20:43 So let's take attendance here.

00:20:44 We have a homeowner who never consented

00:20:46 to the sale of his house.

00:20:47 We have an unwitting home purchaser

00:20:49 who is now saddled with almost a million dollars in debt.

00:20:52 We have two lenders that aren't getting paid back

00:20:55 the money they lent and a title company

00:20:57 who unwittingly insured the transfer of the title

00:21:00 from seller to buyer.

00:21:02 Now, my former colleagues at the FBI

00:21:03 put the criminal case together.

00:21:05 Three of the fraudsters were busted.

00:21:06 The fourth is currently a fugitive.

00:21:08 But the problem, as you alluded to in your introduction, Steve,

00:21:11 is that a criminal case does not restore home ownership

00:21:14 to the rightful owner of this house.

00:21:16 That's still a mess.

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00:21:27 I want to reiterate to the audience that this was done.

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00:21:33 This can happen given the rudimentary system we have for these titles

00:21:36 and how busy people are and how people can get in this.

00:21:40 And this is an example, a rogue real estate agent working with some bad hombres,

00:21:45 not using even artificial intelligence or cyber because that's the big way they're coming.

00:21:49 But you've got these rogue people that had these devious minds.

00:21:52 They think this up.

00:21:53 Next thing you know, you're out of a home and they're looking to you to pay back the loan and your whole life from that from that period forward.

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00:22:25 And in one fell swoop, it's gone.

00:22:27 That's what's so scary about this, Tom.

00:22:30 Exactly.

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00:23:32 I mean, she was a very, she, having been in the real estate business, knew how easy this was to do. Correct, Tom?

00:23:39 Yeah, she knew exactly what strings to pull because she had experience in the industry, and it was sort of the perfect storm.

00:23:49 Tom, thank you so much.

00:23:50 Another harrowing example.

00:23:54 Tom, thank you.

00:23:55 And like Tom said, remember, with the FBI and guys coming in for the criminal side, that doesn't do anything at all on the civil.

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00:24:09 uh zeer's with us but i want to play zeer's cold open at the bottom i want to go back to ben

00:24:14 harnwell ben georgia maloney and i've been people have been have been already been lighting me up

00:24:20 in italy that know me saying he they he doesn't understand why president trump hasn't come out

00:24:25 and given her special attention like he gave the french and he's given he's given the british

00:24:30 she's the bridge she's the self-proclaimed bridge between president trump in europe

00:24:35 we've always dismissed that as nonsense and uh why is she not jumping in here being a full ally 0.98

00:24:43 to the united states of america sir well you know whenever she does describe herself as being a

00:24:49 bridge between the united states and the open union immediately it always comes to my mind

00:24:54 the the tacoma narrows bridge folks if you ever remember that undulating bridge that eventually

00:24:59 is the second largest suspension bridge ever built in the world which collapsed um within a

00:25:05 couple of weeks after opening and that is the bridge to nowhere which is georgia maloney

00:25:09 so um she said no um formally it was via the defense minister on the basis that um italy hadn't

00:25:19 been consulted before the flights we're talking more than one u.s bomber here um before they took

00:25:25 off and therefore italy said no and italy cited its its treaties with the united states and in as

00:25:32 far as it goes there is a you know i have no time for this government or its prime minister um but

00:25:40 there is a legitimate question to be asked as you know considering this the same thing happened

00:25:45 with regards to to spain on the same excuses why the department for for war hadn't put in the phone

00:25:53 calls the u.s department for hadn't put in those necessary phone calls beforehand that is a

00:25:57 legitimate question to ask but beyond that because it is simply a procedural excuse on italy's part

00:26:04 and you can you can guess that it was simply a procedural excuse um masking a political refusal

00:26:11 for the time being by the fact that we know about this because in the spanish situation the the

00:26:17 government was very gung-ho in telling all and sundry that they'd said no that they'd blocked

00:26:22 the airspace to the united states this with regards to the italian situation steve this

00:26:27 actually happened by all accounts last week it's only come out into the press now and it first came

00:26:33 out to the italian press to carriere della sera um through one of their sources presumed to be

00:26:40 though it's not said explicitly on the italian side rather than the u.s side and that steve i

00:26:46 think is the indication that this leaked out to the press um is the indication that the government

00:26:51 really wants the italian people to know that they have said no and that's because there are there is

00:26:58 a lot of antipathy here in italy towards the um the u.s maneuvers in iran specifically um but it's

00:27:07 still i think worth taking note of ben uh i want the answer when we get back and we're going to

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00:30:12 real america's voice um and i i witnessed that enthusiasm on the lines and our submarine

00:30:19 builders and ironworks it's unbelievable um but i just wanted to ask you what's the status

00:30:25 of the delivery of any hardened bunkers

00:30:28 for additional protection for our troops?

00:30:30 And without getting too specific,

00:30:32 what kind of measures are we taking

00:30:34 to protect some of the larger, more strategic aircraft

00:30:36 like the sentry and other?

00:30:39 Well, it's a great question.

00:30:41 I'll say what I witnessed where I went

00:30:43 was a completely locked-in discipline

00:30:48 of bunker use and bunker improvement.

00:30:52 So from the beginning, as we stated very clearly,

00:30:54 the first thing we did was set up a defense and make sure our defensive capabilities were maxed

00:30:59 out before any of this even started. That included fortifications as much as possible. But it also

00:31:04 included disbursement. If all of our people are in one place, you could imagine why that's a big

00:31:09 problem. So dispersing is part of that defeat. Alongside that, disbursement is more and more

00:31:15 bunkers. And I can tell you, talking to base commanders, talking to our allies in Israel,

00:31:19 talking to others, rapidly fielding that and then improving those positions is a theater

00:31:24 priority, no doubt, as are the air defenses and the layered air defenses. It's not just patriots

00:31:29 and THADs. It's fighters and defensive caps. It's other kinetic defeat systems. It's electronic

00:31:34 warfare. So the defense of our troops and our assets is max. I will say on some of those other

00:31:41 assets you talked about, air wings, airframes, there's some things adversaries are doing to

00:31:46 provide info and intel that they shouldn't. We're aware of it. And ultimately, we move things around

00:31:52 One of the biggest principles you learn in the military is to not set patterns, predictable patterns.

00:32:00 And so commanders are working hard to adjust in real time with those systems

00:32:04 and make sure they're in the right places and not easily targetable.

00:32:08 You don't want pattern recognition here.

00:32:12 Be specific, David.

00:32:14 Why did you ask that question about bunkers?

00:32:16 What was on your mind about this?

00:32:19 I was reminded about Iraq, right, when Rumsfeld said, you go to war with the army

00:32:27 you have, not with the one you wish you had.

00:32:30 And I was remembering the soldiers, you know, welding steel plates to the sides of the Hummers.

00:32:36 Now, they didn't have the advanced IEDs at that point, you know, the liquid metal forming

00:32:40 stuff that just cut our columns in half.

00:32:44 But I'm concerned, you know, covering the dignified transfer for RAV, you know, I'm

00:32:50 concerned about more lives being lost because these guys only have to get it right a couple

00:32:54 of times and they can do major damage.

00:32:56 And I just thought it was really important when I saw the articles coming out that they

00:33:00 were trying to streamline deployment and delivery of hardened structures over there.

00:33:06 You know, I hope he can do it fast.

00:33:08 And especially with this AWACS devastation, a half-a-billion-dollar aircraft, we lose one more.

00:33:15 We're in trouble in the global fight, right, maybe.

00:33:19 So these questions are all based on what are we going to do to protect our troops.

00:33:25 Also, I asked him last week about what are we going to do to turn the Internet back on for the people,

00:33:30 and how do we do that as they try to shut down all these VPNs in the Iranian militias and stuff.

00:33:35 So, you know, what's one of the reasons you haven't? Yeah. Yeah. But are you concerned that are you concerned that they're very noticeably not giving a level of specificity, even when Emerald Cooper comes on about just even some of the math about this?

00:33:56 right it you know because we talk about uptempo we talk about the bombing every night um they're

00:34:02 asserting this but so far they've been very remiss to get into details and i realize you

00:34:08 got operational security you don't want to tell the enemy what you're doing but a little bit we're

00:34:13 all kind of in we're all kind of in the fog of war here and a little a little bit of an abyss

00:34:18 because you know they still there's still the scattershot of the uh of the iranians we understand

00:34:25 And they've dispersed their command and control, I think, as Eric Prince continues to tell us, to like 31 different units.

00:34:31 But do you get a sense that the Pentagon has a strategy here, kind of a media strategy or a briefing strategy to make sure the American people are fully apprised so that they can think through and make sure they support or not support President Trump's strategy?

00:34:48 I think they've been careful not to discuss policy, right?

00:34:52 And they are taking these measures. Hegseth was with the troops in Central Command a few days ago over there, right?

00:35:00 So I believe that—I believe they're in a spot because, you know, again, it only takes a dozen drones to hit a target from ground zero and hurt a lot of people or take out—

00:35:17 You know, listen, in the Red Sea, a missile came within a half a mile of the Harry S. Truman,

00:35:22 and if it wasn't for the Sea Whiz, I think, it could have hit it. So, you know, these threats

00:35:27 are real and imminent, and no matter how much planning you do, I think they do have a plan.

00:35:32 I think they really care. I think Hegseth really cares about the troops. But there's a lot of

00:35:36 unpredictables here. And we spoke last summer, Stephen, at the Army 250 celebration, and we

00:35:42 talked about during the June strikes, you know, about a wider war with the Gulf states and other

00:35:47 and the regional, you know, geostrategic elements going on here. So there are unpredictable elements

00:35:54 here as nothing's really fermenting on the ground. The MEK is attacking the Iranian Guard and other

00:36:01 things a little bit, but there's nothing gelling with Pahlavi or anything. So, you know, where does

00:36:07 it leave the people? Where does it leave our troops for the long term? How many additional

00:36:12 casualties will we have? I think it's a legitimate concern. About the Gulf Arab, the Arab allies, 1.00

00:36:21 and as we got bent up here, the NATO allies, President Trump has clearly now over the last

00:36:26 24 hours, maybe 30 hours, has been pretty adamant that he needs people stepping up to the plate,

00:36:32 that we're going to only bear this burden by ourselves for so long. What's the sense you got

00:36:36 from the building uh because these are the direct connect it's not a diplomatic a lot of it's

00:36:41 military to military and i know they're very close relationships particularly with the gulf

00:36:46 armies specifically uae very close relationship with the pentagon do you get any sense

00:36:52 that hegseth and general kane are making any uh progress on this or is this still all at the

00:36:58 white house level and diplomatic well i think it is that and it's also i think uae agreed to

00:37:06 jump in the fight to protect the ships in the strait. I think other nations will come on board.

00:37:10 I think Saudi Arabia will as well. But Europe is always there when they need us. So I think there

00:37:18 will be some success for Donald Trump in putting together a coalition to target this. But how many

00:37:25 weeks out? Will the oil hit $150 plus? There's a lot of questions here. But I don't think they're

00:37:32 operating in the dark. I think, you know, I wouldn't underestimate Trump. I do think he's

00:37:38 in a little bit of a position because, you know, Iran's four times the size of Iraq. You know, 0.97

00:37:43 how do you do that? My grandfather told me 48 years ago, he used to make altimeters for the

00:37:47 bombs. And he always told me, hey, you can bomb the snot out of a country, but unless you've got

00:37:51 ground forces, you can't change it. You know, so, you know, again, what level of success is enough

00:37:57 for Trump and what nations will come on board to help.

00:38:01 You have 11 million barrels a day of oil missing from, you know, the world's supply right now.

00:38:07 All these tanks, all these storage things are at capacity over there in the Gulf states,

00:38:12 and there's nowhere to go.

00:38:15 So I'm not going to throw in the towel, though.

00:38:18 I think Hegseth, you know, he's under fire.

00:38:21 They're looking to hang him at every turn.

00:38:22 I was at the county cartel conference in Doral with the SouthCom a couple of weeks ago, and

00:38:27 He signs his historic agreement with 17 defense ministers of the 31 countries under the AOR

00:38:32 for Central Command from South America, Caribbean, and Latin America.

00:38:36 And they're talking about how he gave a Nazi salute in the Shields of America speech.

00:38:41 You know, so anything he does is going to be ripped apart.

00:38:44 I think he's very careful on not to commit too much and doesn't want to get into, you

00:38:50 know, too granular on stuff at the briefings.

00:38:53 They're short.

00:38:54 He picks 15 questions or so.

00:38:56 So I'm trying to be respectful, but my concern is for the troops.

00:39:02 David, where do people go? What's your social media?

00:39:04 Keep up with you throughout the day.

00:39:07 Sure. I'm at Dave Zier on X and David Zier on everything else.

00:39:15 Zier, great job. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you over the Pentagon.

00:39:18 Thank you so much, Steve.

00:39:20 Ben Harnwell.

00:39:21 uh the president's looking to at least get an alternative it's optionality with the president

00:39:26 range of alternatives there's clearly he's thinking through hey i've got options of if i

00:39:31 got to put combat troops in if i got to keep bombing these guys if i need another regime 0.57

00:39:36 change besides the guys i i'm talking to but one he's clearly looking to do is have the allies step

00:39:42 up here and bear some of the burden uh from your perch in rome uh david zero is pretty optimistic

00:39:49 that eventually europe will do the right thing uh in your bdi assessment do you see that happening

00:39:55 um it might happen on a sort of bilateral basis with the u.s tapping certain countries like the

00:40:05 uk or have you or greece for example um who has been quite cooperative whether it's going to take

00:40:11 place formally through the nato infrastructure at the present moment i did i'd find that slightly

00:40:17 more doubtful that the that the elements are there to do that um i frankly find it difficult

00:40:23 that he's that the president's going to succeed in getting any sort of bilateral agreements

00:40:27 country by country to come on board on this um because if the if it's true that the president

00:40:33 is looking for an off-ramp here for here in continental europe that they're um they're not

00:40:39 looking for an off-ramp because they never got on the on-ramp in the first place and they're

00:40:43 sort of extremely concerned that they don't want to be moving in that direction largely because the

00:40:49 on-ramp isn't isn't a static thing it's dynamic it's like a conveyor belt you need to get on

00:40:54 and do nothing and you're going to be moved further on into this and that's really not where

00:40:59 the the european countries are the reason being as i've indicated before yeah yeah it's because

00:41:05 because the um well whatever you say about uh the european branch of our sociopathic overlords

00:41:12 They know how unpopular they are, broadly because of the immigration issue anyway. You've got the far-right iteration sort of nipping at their heels. They realize that getting their countries involved in a third Gulf War in as many decades is politically suicidal. They don't want any – they don't want to keep the – they don't want anything to do with this. They don't even want to be tapped in to keep administrative homes open.

00:41:40 yeah but but but i got it but brent oil is 118 a barrel right now it's going to go higher if they

00:41:47 don't see if president trump says hey look it's your problem you got to step up here also this

00:41:52 has to has major implications for the ukraine situation p the citizens of the united states

00:41:58 are seeing what's happening here they're seeing the president he it shouldn't be the president's

00:42:04 responsibility to get allies to come on an on-ramp particularly let me just make sure

00:42:09 disestated is that coming out of hormuz is oil and natural gas lng going to europe going past the

00:42:18 houthis in the gate of tears down there into the red sea and suez is a hundred percent going to 0.96

00:42:24 europe you got carrier battle groups right now with american kids keeping those open this is a

00:42:29 european problem this is a european issue and that's why you shouldn't have to take a bayonet

00:42:35 and get them onto an on-ramp.

00:42:36 They should be there as an ally to be an on-ramp.

00:42:39 That's not happening.

00:42:40 The resistance, this is my point.

00:42:42 President Trump, he's lighting these guys up now,

00:42:44 true social, because not only are they not getting

00:42:47 on the on-ramp, people like Spain are saying,

00:42:49 hey, upon further review, we got these joint bases,

00:42:52 really not NATO, it's us and you,

00:42:53 and we got the superior hand.

00:42:55 We're not going to let you use the naval facility

00:42:57 or the naval air base at Road to Spain.

00:43:00 That's off, and you can't use our airspace.

00:43:02 that's not just not being an that's not being an ally or having allies got problems that's being

00:43:08 somebody that's saying no you can't use our airspace we think you're the problem and we

00:43:12 don't agree with your military the the oil that that europe used 118 dollars a barrel and it's

00:43:18 going to go a lot higher president trump says you know upon further review we're going to pull back

00:43:23 i tell you ben hang on i want to take you to the next segment because the president has now talked

00:43:29 about this for 30 hours you can tell this is i'm not saying he's going to pull this option

00:43:33 but he's clearly thinking through every alternative regarding this option both the arab allies with

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00:47:32 understand you've had some very tough analysis and assessments over the last couple of weeks,

00:47:37 but you're giving it to us straight, and you've had just an amazing track record. You've got a

00:47:41 couple minutes to sum up here, your thoughts, because clearly President Trump, whether he does

00:47:46 it or not, whether it's a negotiating tactic, he's going to double down someplace else, or he's going

00:47:50 to put combat troops in the karg island he is developing at least this line of optionality

00:47:56 and that is to basically flush out who's going to step up here and share the burden with the

00:48:01 united states your thoughts sir well no one's particularly stepping up at the moment president

00:48:06 trump is calling a party saying the party's on but at the moment there's there's no the music

00:48:12 might be playing but no no one wants to go to this party um apart from as you mentioned um earlier on

00:48:18 your Gulf allies, and this is what I put out on Geta this morning,

00:48:24 you do have, and this is what Semaphore carried,

00:48:28 that officials from Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE

00:48:33 have told their US counterparts that they want the conflict to continue

00:48:38 until Tehran changes its behaviour,

00:48:41 but as of yet have offered no boots on the ground to send in.

00:48:46 And as you've been highlighting consistently, Steve,

00:48:47 Look, I'll quickly close with this point, this observation, because you mentioned it just before the break and you said it's a very important consideration. How much is this war affecting what's going on in Ukraine? And yes, President Zelensky has been, bless his little cotton socks, has been trying desperately to insert himself into this narrative as well and largely failing, but he is doing what he can do.

00:49:13 But I'd like to reframe your question, Steve, because I don't think it's so much that the fact isn't so much how much is this war affecting what's going on in Ukraine.

00:49:23 It's how much has what happened in Ukraine over the last three or four years affecting the operability for the Gulf War.

00:49:33 And this brings us to the Patriot battery situation, which Poland has refused to help.

00:49:38 And that is, if America asks which country now, which of our allies, has patriot surplus to send to us in Iran, in the Strait of Hormuz or wherever, to help defend Israel,

00:50:02 As is, no one has excess capacity anymore because it's all been used up in Ukraine.

00:50:09 And that, I think, is a further illustration of the rule, the law of unintended consequences,

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00:50:26 Ben Harnwell, where do people go to get your beady-eyed analysis, sir?

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00:50:44 of the feed thanks steve god bless catch you tomorrow thank you brother appreciate you

00:50:50 appreciate the wednesday and friday shows you do which are just outstanding and taking on various

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Bannon's War Room - March 31, 2026

Episode 5261： The Mutiny In NATO

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