Bannon's War Room - Episode 5271： Iran War Opens Up Taiwan To China; Will Todd Blanche Remain AG

00:00:00.000 crashed near the Strait of Hormuz. The lone pilot was safely rescued. MS Now has not confirmed this

00:00:07.780 news yet. Joining us, former Undersecretary of State for Diplomacy, for Public Diplomacy and

00:00:13.920 Public Affairs, and MS Now political analyst Rick Stengel, staff writer for The Atlantic and MS Now

00:00:19.540 political analyst Ashley Parker, retired four-star general and MS Now military analyst General Barry

00:00:26.120 McCaffrey and former U.S. Army officer, captain in the JAG Corps and former assistant U.S. attorney

00:00:32.300 for the District of Connecticut. Margaret Donovan, it's great to have all of you. General McCaffrey,

00:00:37.160 I'm going to start with you. What is your take? What are you watching for with this story of the

00:00:42.940 downing of an F-15 fighter jet? What does it signify to you about where this war is headed?

00:00:48.680 Well, obviously, it underscores the fact there's no such thing as a safe combat operation in an F-15E Eagle.

00:00:58.580 You know, it's a magnificent aircraft, twin engine, 1,500 miles an hour, two pilots used in ground and air-to-air action.

00:01:08.680 but they got one and the question may be it was a man pad hand carried anti-aircraft missile

00:01:16.740 or possibly just a 50 caliber machine gun you know the saying used to be in vietnam

00:01:22.580 big sky little bullet but by the way to underscore the political change in the nature of air warfare

00:01:31.180 In Vietnam, we lost 3,700 fixed-wing aircraft and over 4,000 helicopters, half of them accidents, half of them in combat action.

00:01:43.100 So the change of reality, we've flown over 10,000 sorties in Iran, devastating air sea campaign, and lost one aircraft so far due to enemy action.

00:01:55.340 We have absolutely devastated the Iranian forces general, but it also appears that it is not true, as the president has stated, that we managed to wipe out their air defenses and leave them with few options.

00:02:25.340 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:02:44.400 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:02:51.000 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:02:54.760 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:02:58.280 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:03:06.360 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer

00:03:13.000 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann

00:03:24.760 you're in the war room it's friday april 3rd in the year of our lord 2026 it's natalie winters

00:03:33.320 hosting filling in for stephen k bannon today but as you can see even from this morning's

00:03:40.000 wonderful show it seems like there's news breaking not just every hour every minute but every

00:03:44.800 second obviously the f-15 down in the strait of hormuz with one of two pilots at least now the

00:03:52.500 time of doing the show being reportedly found. They're still looking for the second. And it is

00:03:58.080 our belief there's reporting that was the second video that we played that during the rescue

00:04:02.160 mission, likely Black Hawk helicopters that were doing those missions to try to find the downed

00:04:08.180 pilot that they were then hit, not totally downed, but by Iranian strikes. And then we also have a

00:04:16.360 separate aircraft, I believe, a warthog that was also downed around the Strait of Hormuz.

00:04:22.480 There is a lot going on. President Trump, I believe he's meeting with his

00:04:25.320 national security, you know, cabin officials of the like. As we speak, obviously threading

00:04:31.460 the needle very closely. We're going to get into the, I think, broader discussion of the

00:04:35.440 implications also, I think, like we saw in Venezuela. Obviously, Chinese air defense

00:04:39.920 not doing a very good job there. But in Iran, they use similar technologies. But obviously,

00:04:44.880 you're seeing some sort of evolution going on there. We're going to have Cleo Pascal and I

00:04:50.280 believe Colonel Grant Newsham to walk us through the China angle to all of this and give us an

00:04:55.840 assessment of what is going on in the ground over there. But, you know, we are America first here

00:05:00.740 in the war room. So we will start with what is going on here in the United States, obviously a

00:05:04.520 shakeup over at the DOJ. So we thought best to bring on the one and only Julie Kelly, who has 1.00

00:05:09.760 been writing wonderfully about everything that's gone down with Bondi, the weird never Trump crowd.

00:05:16.740 They're like zombies or Medusa or whatever the Greek thing is where you cut the head off and

00:05:22.560 they come back with more of a vengeance. I thought Ron DeSantis, we agreed that wasn't going to

00:05:26.560 happen, but now he's being floated for AG. I've been enjoying your social media commentary

00:05:30.360 on that. But Julie, let's just take a step back and can you kind of give us your broader 0.91

00:05:34.640 assessment of what we're seeing go down at DOJ, your assessment of Bondi's tenure and what you

00:05:39.840 think the path forward looks like. Sure. Hi, Natalie. Always good to be with you. Happy Good

00:05:45.460 Friday. Thanks for having me on. You know, this was, I believe, months in the making. It was no

00:05:52.760 secret, and the president himself has said so, his dissatisfaction with Pam Bondi. I think she had

00:06:02.580 some solid accomplishments that she should be proud of. However, the Epstein matter debacle

00:06:10.580 files, whatever you want to call it, just became a dark cloud that still hangs over this

00:06:18.860 administration, unfortunately, to this day. And a lot of that was prompted early on, shortly after

00:06:24.880 she was confirmed in February of 2025, claiming that, you know, with those binders had Epstein

00:06:31.440 Files, that this was going to be the first of an ongoing production of so-called Epstein

00:06:36.780 Files, then she was kind of caught on camera saying that they had tens of thousands of

00:06:43.020 videos of Jeffrey Epstein with children and child pornography, kind of alluding to a client's

00:06:50.800 list a few times, really amping up the expectations that were then, of course, turned around on

00:06:59.400 the administration by Democrats in Congress, the Never Trumpers that you're talking about,

00:07:04.740 including people like Tom Massey, who then leveraged this, I think, and made this,

00:07:10.380 unfortunately, Natalie, once we look back at 2025, the Epstein files, Jeffrey Epstein,

00:07:17.540 will be, unfortunately, the animating issue of the president's first year in office.

00:07:23.960 And I think some of that is attributed to Pambani's handling or mishandling of it early on.

00:07:32.220 I'm curious, Julie, kind of taking a step back, I agree.

00:07:35.660 I think the mishandling of the Epstein-Files situation may go down truly as one of the worst political comms crises in modern, maybe all of American history from start to finish, from, you know, Bindergate.

00:07:47.580 I think it persists to this day.

00:07:49.240 But do you think that that is emblematic, maybe making it less of a one-off or an edge

00:07:55.080 case, but of what really, I think, was the kind of final nail in the coffin for A.G.

00:08:01.260 Bondi, which was this idea that I think we've seen sort of permeate through a lot of corners

00:08:05.280 of the Trump administration, if we're being honest, which is there's a lot of talk, but

00:08:09.900 there's not a lot of accountability.

00:08:11.900 There's some, but I don't think it's what exactly President Trump, who is, of course,

00:08:15.940 in charge and has the right to hire and fire as he so pleases, ran on, and I think once and

00:08:20.980 frankly deserves. Do you think it's fair to say that the broader department was sort of failing

00:08:26.920 to meet that mark? Or do you think that the Epstein situation was more of sort of just an

00:08:31.700 aberration or an anomaly from an otherwise successful department, but he just couldn't

00:08:36.860 get past that? Yeah, great, great question. And look, I cautioned people early on,

00:08:43.880 And I know that Steve and I talked about this and you and I talked about this. There was an expectation. And of course, part of this was also created by Pam Bonney when she established that, you know, weaponization working group where and she laid out in that memo, we are going to look at Jack Smith.

00:09:00.820 We are going to look at the persecution of J6ers. We are going to look at the surveillance of, you know, parents protesting at school boards and this, you know, Catholic memo of allegedly FBI agents surveilling people attending Catholic mass. 1.00

00:09:18.100 So she laid out in detail what that was going to look like.

00:09:23.160 But just like our weaponization subcommittee, you'll recall that, Natalie, established by House Republicans in 2023, this all apparently went nowhere.

00:09:32.320 Now, but I did caution people early on because I covered these judges in Washington, D.C. for so long.

00:09:41.760 And I saw how rigged the system was and saw how these judges were flipping 180 degrees from rubber stamping anything that the Department of Justice wanted to reversing everything and overturning and blocking whatever the DOJ wanted as soon as Trump won office.

00:09:57.420 So I said, these things just are not going to happen quickly. And they weren't. So she, to the extent that she did, and then Ed Martin as acting D.C. U.S. attorney, and then the team around her, and even we see this with Janine Pirro, I mean, there is a lost arm judicial resistance, especially in the D.C. District Court, to sabotage anything that this DOJ wants.

00:10:23.040 And that extends even to grand juries, Natalie, where you have activist groups in Washington right after Trump won counseling and coaching people if they were selected to serve on a grand jury.

00:10:35.980 Here is how you undermine the DOJ's speaking of a federal criminal indictment and returning a no true bill, which we now see in unprecedented numbers coming out of not just D.C., but other blue cities as well.

00:10:50.860 So she faced almost insurmountable obstacles, and we can go into detail about all of them, not just, you know, the judges, but this flood of lawsuits for the immigration policies.

00:11:05.780 I mean, it was like whack-a-mole at the DOJ every single day.

00:11:10.140 So, you know, I'm sure she was doing her best, but knowing that the president's priority

00:11:16.740 and the MACA's base priority was we want to see serious indictments, charges, investigations.

00:11:21.980 We want raids, just like we saw of J6ers, just like we saw at Mar-a-Lago. 1.00

00:11:28.620 We wanted FBI raids.

00:11:30.900 We got one.

00:11:32.700 John Bolton, I think, was the only one.

00:11:35.780 So, were they gun-shy? Were they just short-handed? They were dealing with internal uprisings as well. Saboteurs who were DOJ prosecutors, including U.S. attorneys, who were, you know, resigning and quitting in dramatic fashion.

00:11:53.100 And so I want to fairly identify all of the uphill battles that Pam Bobby and her team

00:12:01.180 had from the get-go.

00:12:02.840 But as time wore on, more importantly, Natalie, as time is taking away on this Congress and

00:12:10.160 the first half of the president's term, I think his frustration just built every single

00:12:15.300 day and her credibility just continued to wane within the administration and among the

00:12:21.080 MAGA base especially.

00:12:23.100 Yeah, it always kind of blows my mind how Democrats are able to put people away when

00:12:28.200 there are no crimes yet.

00:12:29.660 With our side, there are extensive crimes, committed crimes at the highest level.

00:12:34.720 And it seems like these people seem to always get away with it.

00:12:37.260 And their consulting fees, I'm sure, only skyrocket.

00:12:40.580 But like you said, Julie, I think the most important part here is that the time is ticking

00:12:44.180 away.

00:12:45.420 Bondi, it's not about bashing her.

00:12:47.580 It's more importantly, which I'm curious to get your thoughts on.

00:12:50.620 And moving forward, what would your advice be to the next AG, to the acting AG, as to how to actually rectify those more systemic problems that you're talking about?

00:13:02.800 I mean, it's going to be tough whoever is put in there.

00:13:05.860 I think there are some really good names floated.

00:13:07.860 As I said, I strongly object to the suggestion that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis should be in the Trump administration, certainly as attorney general.

00:13:17.020 I explained why on X.

00:13:19.400 But I think there are other good names and people who can, I think, I don't want to say

00:13:25.260 run a tighter ship at DOJ because I know that Pan Bondi was very well liked.

00:13:30.380 But I think, you know, instituting some more discipline and oversight as to not just what

00:13:40.800 was happening at main DOJ, but all of these different U.S.

00:13:43.540 attorney's offices, you know, making sure that we're leveraging whatever jurisdiction we can

00:13:49.780 for whatever these potential crimes are. We do know that things are happening in Southern Florida,

00:13:54.820 which is very encouraging. So, you know, they have a much greater shot of something happening there.

00:14:01.760 But I think just, I don't want to use the word grown up because I don't want to demean Pambani 1.00

00:14:06.900 or certainly Todd Blanchard, anyone, the higher levels there. But I mean, somebody who is going

00:14:11.960 to really crack the whip every hour, every day on this. And, you know, I really, I think Lee

00:14:19.080 Zeldin is a tremendous, I think he's one of the unsung heroes of this administration.

00:14:24.720 And I think that he would be a guy who would go in there and do exactly that because he's already

00:14:30.160 dealt with a lot of these issues at the EPA. Julie, we've got to bounce. I think maybe I'm

00:14:35.500 going to put forth the adjective, a wartime AG, maybe that. If people want to read the substat,

00:14:40.940 Get all your wonderful tweets.

00:14:42.340 Where can they go to stay up to date with everything you're working on?

00:14:45.900 Thanks, Natalie.

00:14:46.760 So I'm on XJulie underscore Kelly, too.

00:14:49.120 I've got a piece about Pam Bondi on my sub stack, Be Classified with Julie Kelly.

00:14:54.620 And thank you, Natalie.

00:14:55.280 It's a must read.

00:14:56.740 Thank you.

00:14:57.360 You too.

00:14:57.760 We'll have you back.

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00:17:08.740 Winters. We got another guest, Peter Tickton. We weren't sure if we were going to have you.

00:17:13.920 You're a very busy man, so we're glad you could make some time for the war room posse.

00:17:18.120 Of course, they want updates on all things Tina Peters. But before we get to that,

00:17:22.420 I wanted to really open the floor for you for the discussion I was just having with Julie Kelly.

00:17:27.420 You've obviously fought this lawfare, you know, firsthand and to some extent won.

00:17:32.860 I'm curious your assessment of the situation there, not just as an outsider, but, you know, someone who's kind of interacted with that DOJ and who you think good replacements would be.

00:17:44.360 OK, that's great.

00:17:46.740 First of all, Pam Bondi, I think that she was basically left out, okay?

00:17:52.700 I mean, she had somebody that was running the department, which was Todd Blanche, and

00:17:56.940 I think he basically took over the department.

00:18:02.400 I think that he was the one operating everything, and I think that the problems that Pam Bondi

00:18:07.140 had was that she trusted the man and that she was basically under the line.

00:18:12.260 And I think she needs to answer one question to herself and perhaps the public.

00:18:17.340 Who is it that gave her that line to say that those client lists were sitting on her desk? 0.98

00:18:25.580 If she came up with that all on her own, then she's got nobody to blame but herself.

00:18:30.520 But if that was given to her by the people that were helping her, even helping writing

00:18:35.140 in her speeches and so on, she needs to wake up and smell a coffee and realize that she was 0.96

00:18:42.260 badly used. In terms of the DOJ, your previous guest and you are absolutely right. Look,

00:18:50.360 the name of your show was The War Room. And anybody who doesn't figure it out at this point

00:18:55.280 that we really are in a war, maybe we're not shooting bullets at China, but for sure,

00:19:01.160 we know of their involvement and Serbia's involvement, Iran's involvement, Venezuela's

00:19:07.340 involvement in terms of the election fraud. Somebody's trying to take over our country.

00:19:12.680 Somebody did take over our country for four years. Our DOJ is wasting its time going after

00:19:18.960 minor offenses by people and treating them as major crimes. The whole DOJ needs to be revamped

00:19:27.080 And people, we need to get rid of all of that BS and stop going after Americans who are basically the fabric of our country because they're MAGA, which was happening under Biden, because they're parents of children where they went to PTA meetings or not PTA, but Board of Education meetings.

00:19:49.900 when we are talking about doctors who prescribed ivermectin, the weaponization under Biden

00:19:56.160 was immense. And part of that is because there's too many police, too many prosecutors,

00:20:02.140 and they have to rationalize their existence. We had 25% more crime than we have now

00:20:09.140 when marijuana and other drugs were criminalized. Now that they're decriminalized,

00:20:14.780 we did not, by about 25%, we have not reduced those forces. So in order to keep people employed

00:20:22.300 and for them to keep their jobs, they have to come up with things. And what I've been seeing

00:20:26.840 with the weaponization is just horrendous. So if we could get rid of those cases and start applying

00:20:33.080 these AUSAs, the assistant U.S. attorneys, and start applying these prosecutors to the crimes

00:20:41.620 that we need to look at now one of the things we need to see like for instance take a look at

00:20:48.260 january 6 not only do we need to compensate the innocent people that were basically injured in

00:20:55.180 this whole thing where they lost their businesses they lost their spouses they lost their freedom

00:21:00.580 that they were put in solitary confinement for an extended periods of time and they've got major

00:21:05.660 claims. But not only do we need to basically go after making sure that's done, but look at the

00:21:13.880 other side. Look at the people that need to be prosecuted that never were. I mean, it's not just

00:21:20.360 like we have the J6 committee that destroyed evidence. Who's looking at that? Oh, forget it.

00:21:27.480 We don't need it. Of course we need to look at these things. But there were actually, J6 was

00:21:32.360 planned in advance by people of the deep state. And we actually have videos of them planning to

00:21:39.140 break the windows of the Capitol building on January 6th. And these videos go back to September

00:21:44.180 of 2020. Nobody's going after these people. It's okay, I guess, to be an insurrectionist and to

00:21:50.980 destroy our country. But J6 was intricately connected to and planned by the same people

00:21:58.100 that participated in rigging the election of 2020.

00:22:02.340 So we need an AG that's ready to really fix

00:22:06.040 what needs to be fixed.

00:22:08.840 You know, because of what I know about,

00:22:11.240 you know, for nine months,

00:22:12.660 Donald Trump had me, you know,

00:22:17.340 basically marshalling the evidence

00:22:19.620 regarding January 6th, you know,

00:22:24.220 in 2022, 2023.

00:22:26.700 because of my experience and what I've done so on I feel that you know we need to have

00:22:34.760 somebody that really knows how to make this thing happen and happen fast Lee Zeldin I think is a

00:22:41.380 great man I don't know him personally but from everything I've seen and heard anything you need

00:22:47.420 to put the man in it's a good thing to put him in but at the same time he doesn't know the

00:22:53.320 intricacies of what is going on here and what has been going wrong and what needs to be fixed

00:22:59.320 so frankly i threw my hat in the ring about three weeks ago and uh you know let you see

00:23:06.160 what happens i i i i don't give me the highest of chances because i'm not uh you know for some

00:23:13.640 reason i'm just a a lawyer that a trial lawyer uh that that uh that that works hard and makes

00:23:22.100 things get done but uh but there are people that may be of a higher level in the inner circle and

00:23:28.480 so on that would be uh somebody that donald trump trust donald trump would trust to be able to

00:23:35.800 handle this level of work i mean it's a big department it's got 115 000 people employed

00:23:42.700 there it's 40 different agencies and it's it's quite a handful for somebody to take and then

00:23:50.020 make something of. I mean, I would see that you've got to even get out of the building and

00:23:55.740 maybe set something up in an army base or whatever needs to be done to make sure this

00:24:02.440 whole thing happens. Because I wouldn't be surprised that part of the reason there's

00:24:06.540 been inaction is because people are afraid of threats to themselves and their families and so

00:24:12.320 on. So, you know, it's going to take somebody that's not afraid to die. Not that they will die,

00:24:18.860 but that they can't be afraid they have to be able to move this whole agenda forward and start

00:24:26.360 getting the people that committed crimes against this country prosecuted it has to start and and

00:24:33.820 in terms of you know like we heard oh my goodness we can't get indictments because the grand juries

00:24:40.540 aren't well you don't need a grand jury there's something called an information and for some

00:24:45.500 reason we're afraid to do that. We're afraid to fill out the form and start the prosecution.

00:24:50.420 The heck with it. That's what needs to be done. You've got to find the way to make sure that the

00:24:55.220 mission is accomplished, because this country depends on it right now. Our survival as a free

00:25:01.240 country depends on it. You've obviously taken this fight up firsthand with everything you've

00:25:09.920 been doing with Tina Peters. Obviously, our audience has been following that very closely.

00:25:13.900 I know you guys are still assessing some strategies and working out some specifics, but can you give our audience an update on all things related to Tina's case?

00:25:23.560 All right. I'm happy to. But I don't want you to know, I act for Joseph Altman.

00:25:28.400 I act for Stephanie Lambert, for Patrick Byrne, for others in this fight, too, on a number of different election cases.

00:25:37.580 And in regard to January 6th, we've got between ourselves and Mark McCluskey, we've got about 450 people that we represent in terms of January 6th.

00:25:48.960 So we're well aware of what is going on in this country and what the war is all about.

00:25:55.400 Because once you realize that the election was rigged, who rigged it, you know, is the question.

00:26:01.480 Once you answer that, you understand where we really are.

00:26:04.520 And thank God we have a president that gets it.

00:26:08.540 so in terms of tina peters you're right uh we're working on our next moves we're disappointed at

00:26:16.380 the feckless uh decision that we got from the court of appeals uh you know we're surprised

00:26:24.060 because you know the way they were asking questions they were cognizant of reality and

00:26:28.460 and things that were were uh that did not not show up in their decision let's put it that way

00:26:34.060 uh at least they uh realize the sentence is too great everybody realizes that but then they want

00:26:41.540 to send us back in front of the same judge that gave us the crazy sentence in the first place

00:26:45.940 and and and the name call you know i mean what a biased judge you know calling her a charlatan 0.73

00:26:52.280 and calling her a liar you know what the whole liar thing is all about is because in the in a

00:26:57.780 hearing uh the prosecutor accused tina peters of recording the hearing on her ipad and she denied

00:27:10.880 it and the state took the ipad and then they were able to actually get a conviction for contempt

00:27:18.580 on the prosecutor saying that she recorded even though she was denying it and then eventually

00:27:24.380 they returned the ipad and when as soon as they returned it the lawyers at that time that were

00:27:30.040 involved they took that ipad they gave it to experts who were able to determine that nobody

00:27:34.100 ever recorded any any hearing on that it was it it was fiction out of the mouth of a lying

00:27:41.640 prosecutor and peter we're coming up against the the end of the show or sorry the end of this block

00:27:49.060 so i'm gonna have to drop you we got to get to all things going on in ron and china no do it do it

00:27:53.120 No, if people want to stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to follow you and do that?

00:27:59.800 Although I don't think we have Peter anymore.

00:28:01.880 If we do, please tell the audience.

00:28:03.260 There we go.

00:28:03.640 You're back.

00:28:04.940 Go to tinapeters.us.

00:28:07.480 That'll tell you all you need to know about Tina Peters, including the briefs,

00:28:11.260 and you'll be able to make up your own mind about what a lousy job the Court of Appeals did here.

00:28:16.040 We need a wartime AG, and I got to say, you sound like one of those, sir.

00:28:20.280 Thanks for joining us.

00:28:21.180 Warren Posse, we'll be right back.

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00:30:53.600 And with that, welcome back to The War Room.

00:30:56.400 We are going to go to Cleo Pascal, who does just wonderful work.

00:31:01.380 The very dark, very scary underbelly of PRC infiltration, not just here in the United States, but abroad.

00:31:09.120 I think you may have some charts for us, which gets me very excited.

00:31:12.580 But you are, you have some new stories, some new work.

00:31:16.140 I believe, from the Northern Marianists and also Diego Garcia.

00:31:20.940 So I will just tee it up to you because you know more than the PRC probably knows about the ops they got going down there.

00:31:28.760 But hit us with the latest.

00:31:31.120 Thank you.

00:31:31.760 So we're going to go back to the story that you and I covered a while back about what's going on in the Commonwealth of Northern Marian Islands.

00:31:38.640 And there is a map, which might be helpful.

00:31:41.140 So this is a part of the United States of America.

00:31:45.140 That's an eight-hour flight west of Hawaii.

00:31:48.240 It's circled there in dark blue.

00:31:51.280 So everything in dark blue on that map is the United States of America.

00:31:55.240 So the thing in the upper right-hand corner, that's the Hawaiian Islands.

00:31:59.680 And then what's circled over on the left, that's the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

00:32:04.540 So CNMI is the acronym.

00:32:07.460 And it's just north of Guam.

00:32:09.460 And what's in green is Taiwan.

00:32:12.040 So it's actually about half as close to Taiwan as it is to Hawaii.

00:32:16.940 And if the balloon goes up in Taiwan, the Chinese are going to have to take Guam and the Marianas offline. 0.99

00:32:24.920 There's a lot of different ways that that could go.

00:32:27.220 But the U.S. military is building up in both Guam and the Marianas.

00:32:31.880 These are separate U.S. territories.

00:32:35.260 The island of Tinian is in the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

00:32:38.700 That's where the major air base was towards the end of World War II, which had the B-29 bombers taking off from Japan.

00:32:46.500 It's where the Enola Gay took off from. 0.98

00:32:48.180 That airfield is now being rebuilt.

00:32:50.040 And, of course, Guam is also seeing a lot more activity before.

00:32:54.860 So the Chinese, I look more like you do at the political warfare component to this. 0.98

00:33:01.080 And they're on the ground seriously trying to destabilize the U.S. from the inside so that if there is a move on Taiwan, both Guam and the Northern Marianas won't be operational.

00:33:13.940 And one of the ways, and this has come up in the context of what's going on in the Supreme Court, is Chinese can still arrive without a visa on U.S. soil in the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas Islands.

00:33:25.720 So this has been obviously a birth tourism issue, but also the woman that ran the Bureau of Motor Vehicles there was convicted of selling U.S. driver's licenses along with a Chinese co-conspirator specifically to Chinese.

00:33:38.180 The Chinese that come in without a visa aren't supposed to leave the Marianas, but at least in the hundreds, we think, they've been taking the boat, illegally going by boat, from the island of Rhoda, which is in the south of Marianas, to Guam, which is about 60 miles away. 0.58

00:33:53.620 They've been showing up in Guam, selling drugs, human trafficking, and wandering around the U.S. bases.

00:33:59.500 There was just a Chinese tourist who was convicted of taking photos of Anderson base in Guam.

00:34:07.280 They're also very heavily and deeply entwined into the economy of the Northern Marianas.

00:34:15.340 And this is something that's coming up again right now, because they are trying to make the case,

00:34:21.440 and people who are pro-no visas for Chinese,

00:34:25.580 which includes the woman who represents

00:34:27.740 the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas in the U.S. Congress,

00:34:31.060 that this should stay,

00:34:33.420 that Chinese tourism is the bedrock of their economy

00:34:37.740 and should be expanded.

00:34:40.160 And until just a few days ago,

00:34:42.520 they were even pushing for unlimited direct flights

00:34:46.220 on Chinese carriers from China into Guam and the Marianas.

00:34:51.180 This is how far it's gone.

00:34:53.600 They were pushing not just for visa-free access for Chinese into the Marianas, but for unlimited

00:34:58.500 flights on Chinese carriers into the Marianas and into Guam.

00:35:03.280 Now, they've just pulled that request because they are in negotiations with the U.S. government

00:35:09.440 for money.

00:35:10.780 They say they're broke and they need a federal government bailout.

00:35:14.620 So they've realized that the unlimited flights was a bit of a bridge to China too far.

00:35:20.420 So they've pulled that, but they're still sticking with the unlimited visa-free access for Chinese tourists, and they're not going after the estimated $1.6 billion in funding that the late Governor Palacios from the Northern Marianas said was not properly accounted for when he came into office in 2023.

00:35:44.380 Now, viewers of War Room may remember that there was this governor who came in in 2023 who tried to pivot the Marianas away from China, and he also repeatedly requested the federal government to come and investigate what was going on in the Marianas.

00:36:04.020 He said he had proof to hand over to the FBI about high-level corruption.

00:36:11.160 He requested Treasury come in.

00:36:13.300 He requested basically anybody who would come in and help to do investigations into what was going on

00:36:18.880 because the degree of Chinese money that has come in to the Marianas through first the garment sector

00:36:27.100 and then the casinos, and now they're looking at a stablecoin and online casinos,

00:36:31.720 has been off the charts and it's completely distorted the economy of the Northern Marianas

00:36:37.140 and so the politics of Northern Marianas. And Governor Palacios, Mr. Tickton called said,

00:36:43.960 talked about people who are willing to die, to fight for what's right. And Governor Palacios

00:36:51.660 was one of those. He knew that calling for these investigations would put him at great risk.

00:36:56.080 and coincidentally or not he died suddenly last summer and the war room live streamed both the

00:37:03.720 funeral and the mass and I was there for the funeral and the the level of fear among the

00:37:12.160 Americans remember these are Americans living in the Northern Marianas was such that you know I

00:37:16.920 had people coming up to me during the funeral and kind of brushing past me and saying thank you

00:37:25.040 in the context of thank you for the coverage, and then walking on.

00:37:28.180 They didn't want to be seen with me because it's an environment that's so dangerous.

00:37:34.500 There have been unexplained, well, there have been suicides that people think are suspicious.

00:37:39.520 There's such a depth of corruption and fear in this part of the United States of America,

00:37:46.340 which I would argue is the part of the United States that is the most penetrated by the Chinese Communist Party,

00:37:51.380 that they feel like they can't be seen in public

00:37:56.720 with people who are trying to tell their story.

00:37:59.480 So I'm very grateful to the War Room for giving time.

00:38:02.540 And I know to cover it,

00:38:04.860 what's going on in this frontier of the United States

00:38:07.140 and to viewers of the War Room

00:38:10.220 who've been very supportive individually on this story.

00:38:13.460 And I would just request to keep a very close eye on it

00:38:17.560 because it is getting worse.

00:38:21.380 It still needs the investigations.

00:38:24.000 And maybe before sending out more money to these people in the Marianas who are still pushing for these Chinese entries,

00:38:31.500 maybe there should be a full Treasury investigation into what happened to the over a billion dollars that went there the last time.

00:38:40.400 And some investigations and prosecutions would be extremely helpful.

00:38:45.100 and Cleo got only a few minutes but can you just sort of loop in the Diego Garcia situation get

00:38:51.680 our audience up to speed on that yeah sure so Diego Garcia is this uh US UK base which is in

00:38:59.180 the Indian Ocean which President Trump wanted to use as part of the planning for the Iran operation

00:39:03.740 and the UK uh said no um initially at least and along with the bases on on land now the UK has

00:39:12.640 been trying to offload the base onto Mauritius, which is very close to China, and the whole thing 0.71

00:39:18.360 just reeks. And the sort of one potential positive outcome of the Iran thing is it's 0.57

00:39:27.100 called attention to the weakness of the European partners, and also specifically to what may be

00:39:34.480 about to happen to this base. The legislation to sign the agreement with Mauritius is stuck

00:39:40.660 in the British Parliament, and unless it's ratified by the end of the month, it may time

00:39:45.680 out, which would be a good thing.

00:39:47.960 But again, it's another area where attention needs to be paid, very close attention, that

00:39:53.000 the UK, especially this Keir Starmer government, which has very unusual connections to China,

00:39:59.560 doesn't try to slip it through.

00:40:01.940 But it raises this larger question, because this isn't the only base.

00:40:05.540 The UK also, an Iranian drone struck a UK base in Cyprus, and the UK wasn't in a position to defend it. And reportedly, there's US NSA capabilities there as well.

00:40:18.940 So I think that not just the NATO question, but the whole partnership with five eyes, various five eyes countries is going to have to be reassessed so that you don't have these, you don't have London or Paris or others putting a chokehold on U.S. decision making at critical times of conflict.

00:40:40.980 Strangling us by our own systems. I think I have heard that one before. Cleo, if people want to

00:40:47.300 follow you, keep up to date with all of the truly intrepid reporting that you're doing,

00:40:52.280 where can they go to do that? Sure. I'm on X, just my name, Cleo Pascal, C-L-E-O-P-A-S-K-A-L,

00:41:00.040 and on Getter at Real Cleo, because there is apparently an unreal Cleo there who's got my name.

00:41:06.660 I wish they would post like interesting things at least, but they're not.

00:41:10.360 It's probably a Chinese bot, it's Wu Mao, and they wanted to get your handle before you could.

00:41:16.960 I know.

00:41:17.420 You're the real Cleo here in the war room.

00:41:19.940 Thank you very much.

00:41:21.940 Thank you for coming on.

00:41:23.380 Good to see you.

00:41:25.080 Colonel Grant Neusch, I want to go to yet another wonderful China expert that we have here in the war room.

00:41:31.620 I want to get your thoughts on everything that's going down in Iran.

00:41:33.860 It seems like the doomsday scenario that everybody talks about when we are dragging our feet to ensure that this doesn't turn into another forever war is this idea of almost unintentional escalation, right?

00:41:44.240 A plane being shot down, which then spirals and snowballs.

00:41:47.280 And then the rescue team, like we're seeing now, right?

00:41:49.440 A helicopter getting, I think, struck to some extent by Iranian capabilities air fire.

00:41:55.060 I think the Chinese air defense systems that they use there evolving is certainly from what we saw go down in Venezuela.

00:42:00.540 It's allegedly an F-15, not an F-35.

00:42:03.860 Your thoughts on everything that's going down there right now.

00:42:07.500 Sure.

00:42:08.100 Well, sometimes it seems as though Americans have sort of the attention span of about five-year-olds really expecting a war to end in about 24 hours, 72 hours.

00:42:18.520 Sometimes it takes a little time and also some context helps as well.

00:42:22.320 It is amazing that we have not lost any aircraft today.

00:42:26.580 Simply impossible to imagine that.

00:42:28.760 It gives you a good idea of just how we've beaten down the Iranian-slash-Chinese-slash-Russian air defenses there. 0.90

00:42:37.560 This was bound to happen at some point, particularly when it comes to the shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, the so-called MANPADs, that are all over the place in Iran.

00:42:47.640 They must have a ton of them.

00:42:48.860 These are very hard to detect, if not impossible to detect.

00:42:52.660 And it wouldn't surprise me if somehow they got a shot off at one of the American planes, hit it, brought it down.

00:42:59.500 It's bound to happen.

00:43:01.320 The major air defense systems, those are a little easier to take out.

00:43:05.620 But if you think of a man pad or a shoulder fired weapon, it's like having a rifle.

00:43:11.000 And they're easy to hide, hard to spot.

00:43:13.880 So it doesn't surprise me.

00:43:15.240 You can see the Americans move heaven and earth to get those pilots back. 0.60

00:43:19.360 They've got one, apparently.

00:43:20.600 I certainly hope they get the other one, but they'll do everything they possibly can.

00:43:25.320 But in the grand scheme of things, the air campaign against the Iranian regime—

00:43:31.240 Kalanusham, I'm going to stop you there because we've got to jump to break. 0.95

00:43:34.360 But I promise both you and the audience after this break, I will let you continue explaining what is going on there.

00:43:39.780 I guess I tease the audience with the cold open detailing everything that's going on there.

00:43:43.920 But there's a lot to get to here on The Homefront 2.

00:43:47.040 We'll be right back after this short break.

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00:45:59.040 Colonel Nushum, you're still with us.

00:46:01.360 I want to let you pick up where you left off.

00:46:03.380 I know the audience gets mad when I got to cut you off.

00:46:05.440 It's not my choice.

00:46:06.240 It's the break.

00:46:07.300 It's the show clock.

00:46:09.220 Pick up where you left off.

00:46:10.820 help the audience make sense of what's going on over there? Sure. Losing an aircraft isn't the

00:46:17.380 end of the world. It's part and parcel of warfare. As I've said, it's amazing this hasn't happened

00:46:23.300 earlier. The Americans still have free run of the country and are hitting every target that they can, 0.79

00:46:28.980 particularly ones related to the Revolutionary Guards, the Basids, the militia, the real street

00:46:34.120 level thugs, and they're also going after them with drones down to a very low level. The things

00:46:39.800 to watch out now for what happens in the Straits of Hormuz. Does oil start flowing again? And

00:46:45.960 President Trump is doing it in a way nobody ever imagined. What he's doing, I think, is letting the

00:46:50.920 Europeans, the Japanese, the Koreans, and others who depend on this oil, whereas we don't. He's 0.99

00:46:57.360 making them squirm. Normally, what they would do is they would issue these muscular statements,

00:47:03.340 criticize the Americans, bite our ankles, and then wait for the U.S. Navy and Air Force to go

00:47:09.000 clean out the Persian Gulf so that the oil starts flowing. He's making them sort of, as I said,

00:47:16.080 swing in the wind and figure out if they want to get involved here on the grounds that, well,

00:47:20.800 they're the ones who benefit from this. How this is going to play out, we should know

00:47:24.600 in a few days. So I think things are going to get very interesting after about a week down in the,

00:47:30.440 say, in the Straits of Hormuz, the Persian Gulf. And also, it's very interesting to see the Gulf

00:47:36.120 Arab states are the ones who are most all in on this fight. And they're the ones closest to the

00:47:41.480 Iranians. And they want us to finish it off. And always there's so much that goes on behind the 1.00

00:47:48.540 scenes that we don't know. And no commentator knows the negotiations, for example. Nobody's

00:47:54.800 really got any good insights into that. And things are working. And we'll see how this plays out.

00:48:00.720 But it's one where you have to have a little patience and give the people in the ring who

00:48:05.140 are running it a little time and the ability to actually do their jobs and get things done.

00:48:12.860 The admiral running this, Brad Cooper, is excellent. And so far, things are moving along

00:48:19.580 according to a plan. And it is important to keep in mind that it's only been about a month that

00:48:26.540 this fight has been going on. And the results to date have been unbelievable, largely cost-free,

00:48:32.920 unless you're obviously one of the people who's gotten hurt, but in terms of the previous wars

00:48:39.640 we've had, other fights, this one is moving along, and as I said, we do have these short

00:48:46.260 attention spans. Sometimes you wonder how our parents' and grandparents' generation were able

00:48:51.640 to withstand the casualties that we took and the setbacks we took in places like, well, World War

00:48:57.860 too, just all over the place. But that's the nature of modern society. I think we're all

00:49:02.400 wired a little differently these days. But there's a few things to keep watching there,

00:49:07.360 particularly Persian Gulf Straits of Hormuz, hopefully get that last pilot back. And then

00:49:12.760 the negotiations and also the effort that is being taken to destroy the, as I said, the coercive

00:49:20.220 infrastructure that have really tormented the Persian people, the Iranians for so long. The 1.00

00:49:25.920 only legitimacy they had comes from having killed 45,000 or so Iranians a couple of months ago who 0.99

00:49:33.540 wanted nothing more than the right to choose who governs them. And it is a nasty regime that has

00:49:38.840 killed a lot of Americans, tortured in the case of Bill Buckley, the CIA station chief, back in

00:49:46.400 84, 85, they caught him in Beirut, tortured him to death, sent videos of it back to the Americans

00:49:53.360 so they could watch it.

00:49:54.780 And that's the kind of regime we're dealing with.

00:49:56.660 It hasn't changed.

00:49:58.140 So I'm very interested to see how this all ends up

00:50:01.620 and whether or not the regime is allowed to continue

00:50:05.180 in some form or another.

00:50:07.240 One would hope that it isn't,

00:50:08.740 but we'll see how that turns out.

00:50:11.820 And how it will all segue

00:50:13.180 with President Trump's upcoming meeting with Xi Jinping.

00:50:17.620 I think that'll be something to watch.

00:50:18.880 We'll have to get you back on to get your assessment

00:50:20.420 of how what's going on there will affect that.

00:50:23.100 But unfortunately, we are running on time.

00:50:25.120 But if people want to get your wonderful book, which I think probably has a lot of answers

00:50:28.480 to that existential question, where can they go to get that?

00:50:32.020 And where can they go to follow you and keep up with everything you're working on?

00:50:35.680 Well, the book, When China Attacks, is easily found on Amazon.

00:50:39.640 It's an excellent book, I must say.

00:50:41.680 But I can be found on Newsham Grant and at grantnewsham.com.

00:50:46.640 That'll get you to everything that I write.

00:50:49.980 Thank you, sir, for joining us.

00:50:51.280 I appreciate your time.

00:50:52.960 My pleasure.

00:50:53.540 Thank you for having me.

00:50:55.140 Of course.

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Bannon's War Room - April 04, 2026

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