Bannon's War Room - Episode 5278： President Trump Delivers Another Ultimatum For Iran, Deadline April 7th At 8pm

00:00:00.000 to open it immediately. But there has to be a mechanism between CENTCOM, the Revolutionary

00:00:07.660 Guard, what's left the Iranian government and President Trump's government to make sure

00:00:12.280 that there's some sort of mechanism to work towards a full opening. It may not happen

00:00:16.300 right away because this thing could take a week or so to actually do it, to actually

00:00:21.400 get the straight open. But I think that has to be part of it. If not, you know, you've

00:00:26.440 Here's the thing. You've put a deadline. Like his president said, let's not lose track of what he said.

00:00:31.540 He said they asked they asked for seven days. And I'm just going on what the president says.

00:00:36.020 He says they asked for seven. I gave them 10. And by the way, since I didn't want to do anything on the day after Easter, I threw in another day, a bonus day.

00:00:43.960 It's 11. That's enough. If you do more, I think you're sending a wrong signal as much as, you know, people are looking for an off ramp here.

00:00:52.000 you may have to drop a hammer on these people because right now

00:00:56.180 they believe, and I think Trita Parsi is right, in their mind 0.92

00:01:00.360 they feel they have the initiative. They feel they've shifted the center of gravity of this war

00:01:04.560 to the Persian Gulf. Given the magnificent

00:01:08.340 result we had on this operation to

00:01:11.860 get the pilot back, I think the president now is in

00:01:16.360 a situation that if they try to play games, he drops a hammer again

00:01:20.560 And and then we and then we see where we are. Otherwise, you just this thing's a drag out.

00:01:25.020 I'm going to throw it to you very quickly, though. I was in the trading pits and when Gulf Desert Storm happened, I'll never forget.

00:01:30.980 Right. The day of Desert Storm, the night of oil had just run out from twenty five to forty dollars a barrel in anticipation of a massive drawn out war with the Middle Eastern country producing country or producing country. 0.77

00:01:42.200 By morning, it had shot back down because we obliterated them in the air.

00:01:46.460 and i think the point is this time's different steve because this we did the same thing we took

00:01:50.980 out their we took out the defenses but oil the traders for whatever reason aren't seeing this

00:01:56.100 as an opportunity to bring it back down yet they need more steve i'll let you go have a have a great

00:02:00.780 show yeah hang on hang on real quickly how how was the afternoon how was the afternoon

00:02:05.760 what's the market tell us as we go into ominously quiet it stayed at 112 which is wildly crazy with

00:02:11.920 what's going on stayed at 112 all day the stock market was up a touch stayed it was everyone's

00:02:17.040 holding their breath right now okay eric we'll see you in the morning on the morning always good

00:02:23.660 i'll talk to you tonight thank you brother see you tomorrow thank you sir okay we've got a quite

00:02:28.980 intense cold open for this audience let's go ahead and play it the show is packed for the next two

00:02:33.600 hours let's go and let it rip we can't let iran have a nuclear weapon you know we got regime change

00:02:41.080 we do we're dealing with a much different regime than before we're doing with different people

00:02:45.960 they're smarter i think they're sharper uh and far less radical we have regime change we didn't

00:02:54.280 do this for regime change we did it for the fact and my my view was very simple i saw somebody said

00:03:00.360 oh he doesn't have a plan i have the best plan of all but i'm not going to tell you what my plan is

00:03:04.680 you know they want me to say here's my plan we're going to attack at 9 47 in the morning and then

00:03:09.960 we're going to do this and then we're going to and if you don't do that they say i have a plan

00:03:14.520 these people know what the plan is everybody here knows what the plan is but uh it's very unfair to

00:03:21.160 say you know because i don't mind being insulted i've been insulted for many years by the by the

00:03:25.640 fake news but you can't it's so bad for the people that are so pro you just saw two great and john

00:03:33.800 ratliff three unbelievable people they have a plan every every single thing has been thought

00:03:39.240 out by all of us but i can't reveal the plan to the media so you know his command america projects

00:03:46.760 power with confidence and brings our people home with victory and that continues today by the way

00:03:53.800 per the president's direction today will be the largest volume of strikes since day one

00:03:57.960 of this operation tomorrow even more than today and then iran has a choice choose wisely

00:04:05.400 because this president does not play around you can ask Soleimani you can ask Maduro you can ask

00:04:14.380 Khamenei the entire country could be taken out in one night and that night might be tomorrow night 0.99

00:04:21.320 you called the yesterday in your truth social you called the Iranians crazy bastards true um 0.98

00:04:27.800 what is your response to critics who say that I don't care about critics what is your response 0.99

00:04:32.620 It's the critics who say that it is your mental health that should perhaps be examined as this war continues.

00:04:36.720 Well, I haven't heard that, but if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people like me

00:04:40.660 because our country was being ripped off on trade and everything for many years until I came along.

00:04:48.580 So if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people.

00:04:50.900 Dasha, go ahead.

00:04:51.820 To get into the objective area.

00:04:54.760 During this engagement, one of the Sandy aircraft,

00:04:57.780 the one primarily responsible for communicating with the downed pilot,

00:05:01.620 was hit by enemy fire. This pilot continued to fight, continued the mission, and then upon exit

00:05:10.260 flew his aircraft into another country and determined that the airplane was not landable.

00:05:15.900 This was one of our A-10 Sandy aircraft. The pilot then made the decision to eject over

00:05:22.180 friendly territory and was quickly and safely recovered and is doing fine.

00:05:27.120 After picking up Dude 4-4 Alpha, the HH-60 Jolly Green fight was engaged by every single person in

00:05:37.600 Iran who had a small arms weapon. And one of the aircraft, the trailing aircraft, took several hits.

00:05:44.500 The crew sustained minor injury and they are going to be fine.

00:05:48.820 When he was finally able to activate his emergency transponder, his first message

00:05:54.780 was simple, and it was powerful. He sent a message, God is good. In that moment of isolation

00:06:03.980 and danger, his faith and fighting spirit shone through. You see, shot down on a Friday,

00:06:11.060 good Friday, hidden in a cave, a crevice, all of Saturday, and rescued on Sunday,

00:06:20.460 flown out of iran as the sun was rising on easter sunday a pilot reborn

00:06:28.160 all home and accounted for a nation rejoicing god is good

00:06:35.360 go ahead please thank you mr president um you said earlier today during the egg roll

00:06:41.740 that you would like to take iran's oil but americans want u.s forces home correct what's

00:06:47.820 If I had my choice, if I had my choice, yeah, because I'm a businessman first with Venezuela, as you know, the war was over in about 45 minutes and we have great people running Venezuela. Very good people. I mean, the relationship is good and we are a partner with Venezuela and we've taken hundreds of millions of barrels, hundreds of millions over 100 million barrels already is in the

00:07:17.820 used and refined and out and paid paid for that war many many times over many times you know the

00:07:24.540 old days to the victim okay you know that to the uh to the winner belong the spoils go the spoils

00:07:34.380 and i've said why don't we use it to the victor go the spoils and we don't have that we haven't

00:07:40.400 had that in this country probably in a hundred years because even the second world war you look

00:07:44.260 the second world war we didn't have it with the second world we helped rebuild all those countries

00:07:49.220 we rebuilt germany how about germany telling us germany telling us that uh well it's not their war

00:07:56.740 we had nothing to do with they wanted me to go and tell them everything i was doing

00:08:01.700 we didn't know anything about it well if i would have told them they would have leaked it

00:08:05.700 and we wouldn't have been nearly as successful possibly right but to the victor belong the

00:08:10.660 spoils so we haven't heard we haven't heard that in i think maybe hundreds of years mr president

00:08:18.260 are you allowed to or are you willing to end this conflict with iran charging tolls

00:08:23.700 for passage through the street uh us charging tolls iran what about us charging tolls is that

00:08:30.820 something you're considering i'd rather do that than let them have them run why shouldn't we we're

00:08:34.980 We're the winner. We won. Okay. They are militarily defeated.

00:08:40.100 The only thing they have is the psychology of, oh, we're going to drop a couple of mines in the water. All right.

00:08:46.220 No, we, I mean, we have a concept where we'll charge tools. Okay. I thought you meant us.

00:08:52.420 Your question, your question would, your question would have been more accurate if you said us.

00:08:57.480 Your messaging on the war has moved from the war is coming to an end to we're going to be bombing Iran to the stone ages. 0.75

00:09:04.380 and we've heard a range of those kind of messages so are you so which is it are you winding this

00:09:10.240 down are you escalating i can't tell you i don't know i can't tell it depends what they do this is

00:09:15.020 a critical period they have a period of well till tomorrow at eight o'clock i gave them an extension

00:09:22.680 they asked for an extension of seven days right i said steve give them 10 days 10 days is up

00:09:32.080 actually today so i gave him 11 i guess indirectly i thought it was inappropriate the day after

00:09:36.800 easter i want to be a nice person uh they have till tomorrow now we'll see what happens i can

00:09:44.780 tell you they're negotiating we think in good faith we're going to find out we're getting the

00:09:49.520 help of some incredible countries that want this to be ended because it affects them also a lot of

00:09:56.560 People are affected by this, but we're giving them, we're giving them till tomorrow, eight

00:10:02.960 o'clock Eastern time.

00:10:04.480 And after that, they're going to have no bridges.

00:10:07.960 They're going to have no power plants.

00:10:11.640 Stone ages. 0.88

00:10:12.680 Yeah.

00:10:14.200 We're, we're, we're post these trespasses, right?

00:10:19.720 So these things have already happened.

00:10:21.400 People warned that they could happen during the election.

00:10:23.560 People warned that Hegseth might not be a good person to be on the wall for the rule of law inside the military.

00:10:33.500 He's there anyway. And Trump is now threatening to bomb Iran to the Stone Ages.

00:10:37.740 And Pete Hegseth has said that, in his view, the theory of war in Iran is to give no quarter.

00:10:44.420 What does that mean inside the military, General? 0.94

00:10:48.400 It means you use any means possible to kill people.

00:10:52.800 You know, you're not going to let people escape. 0.93

00:10:55.160 You're not going to take any prisoners. 0.88

00:10:57.100 You're basically going to rape, pillage, and plunder, taking it back to the 17th century. 0.51

00:11:02.320 And, Nicole, what we're talking about is behavior that modern societies have condemned and said we ought to at least pose or provide debt guidelines for those who have to execute violence.

00:11:17.320 Those are soldiers.

00:11:18.180 And, you know, I'm going to go back to something you said a minute ago, because I've trained for 40 years as a as a soldier and as a commander.

00:11:28.820 And when you're an officer in the United States Army, you're loyal to a couple of things.

00:11:33.480 You're primarily loyal to the Constitution.

00:11:37.320 You are also loyal to your superiors if they give, as you said, lawful orders.

00:11:43.940 When they start giving unlawful orders, you find a way to push back on them and to make sure they adjust their approach.

00:11:51.940 But you also are loyal to the soldiers that are under your command.

00:11:56.140 So those three loyalties sometimes are conflicting.

00:11:59.060 So I'm sure there's a lot of military commanders right now, a lot of senior officers who are saying to themselves, I can't obey an unlawful order.

00:12:08.280 I can't do things that I know are absolutely wrong.

00:12:12.040 but they also feel like they have to provide support for their soldiers who don't just get

00:12:17.720 to quit. They have to stay in the military and potentially see an uprising in all of these

00:12:24.360 things. So the senior military officers are in a real quandary on this one because they know they

00:12:30.420 can't do some of the things that the president is asking them to do. They have a secretary of

00:12:36.320 Defense, who has continually said lethality is better than legality or words to that effect.

00:12:42.640 So it's really causing some dynamics within those who are thinking soldiers saying, how do I

00:12:49.820 continue to serve my Constitution and live by the rules that are in law and still conduct these

00:12:56.840 kind of actions which are horribly immoral and illegal. It is Easter Monday, 6 April in the year

00:13:08.740 of our Lord, 2026, that you see what President Trump is up against. They're going, oh, these are

00:13:14.060 all war crimes. They're not war crimes. It's ridiculous. And Pete is laying out what a battle

00:13:19.160 strategy is. He's not saying to, you know, kill civilians. Look at the number of sorties. You can

00:13:24.400 tell this there's some dispute whether it's 11 000 or 12 500 but there's a ton of combat missions

00:13:33.820 and a ton of weapons that have been dropped in relatively few civilian casualties it's kind of

00:13:40.600 shocking how low the civilian casualties are because people have gone out of their way

00:13:43.920 to make sure they're hitting military targets about the electric grid and the oil resources

00:13:50.820 They're inextricably linked with the war machine of the theocratic government.

00:13:56.860 Like I said, we're in this thing now.

00:13:58.500 You've got to win it.

00:13:59.440 The President of the United States has said, hey, they gave us a proposal.

00:14:05.520 It's significant, but it's not there.

00:14:08.100 It's not enough.

00:14:09.880 And he doubled and tripled down today in the press conference with what he's going to do.

00:14:17.200 I think you see the valor of our arms and this amazing evolution that took place, this mission that took place to retrieve the pilot.

00:14:26.640 It ties in with what we did in the June 12-day war, what we've done so far.

00:14:34.380 The military is just doing an incredible job.

00:14:38.360 Their valor is unbelievable.

00:14:40.480 Their proficiency, their professionalism, all incredible.

00:14:43.120 But now we're down to it, you know, what, just over 24 hours away of whether we're going to ramp this thing up or not.

00:14:51.060 We're going to break it all down for you, plus a lot about artificial intelligence today.

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00:16:24.500 we're doing a couple more cuts uh from the press conference afternoon and dr thayer is going to

00:16:35.180 join us in a moment but i want to get to something because i want to put it at the top of mind here

00:16:39.540 raul alfonso joins us and you're from the watchdogs of fort meade is that correct is that

00:16:46.700 your group right correct yes it is and and what are the watch what are the watchdogs of fort meade

00:16:53.900 It sounds like a classic war room posse group with watchdogs of Fort Meade.

00:16:59.460 What, who, and what are you?

00:17:01.960 Well, we started as just a group of people that were trying to get information to our

00:17:05.900 city commissioners and representatives because all they were hearing about hyperscale data

00:17:12.120 centers was all the glorious things that the money was going to be able to bring to the

00:17:16.520 city.

00:17:17.780 And what we were seeing definitely showed a lot of negative sides that are being affected

00:17:23.500 to every other data center in the areas that are being thrust upon by these things and we needed to

00:17:33.100 give the other side of what was happening a voice because right now all of our representatives are

00:17:42.680 hearing and seeing is the money that they will be getting from tax dollars from this big development

00:17:48.440 coming into our area and they're not listening to the people of the area who are saying they

00:17:53.460 don't want this here in our city limits it's a hang on for one second when you say you're this

00:18:01.480 fort meade is in the greater uh what would you call it tampa st pete we're already defined area

00:18:09.740 correct we're right in the middle of the state we're actually south of lakeland we're in a very

00:18:15.640 rural area we're south of barton so what will you what would you say is the problem what's what's

00:18:25.540 what's the problem overall you said there's other are there other in these uh in the center part of

00:18:31.280 the state down south of tampa are you saying that there are a lot of these data centers that are

00:18:36.680 coming up or going before town councils now there are smaller data centers that already exist in the

00:18:43.920 area. But this hyperscale one is enormous, 4.4 million square feet. And we still haven't gotten

00:18:52.180 anything nailed down on exactly what equipment they're going to be putting in and the way of

00:18:55.760 generators and so forth. Because as we understand it, they're going to have to build a power plant

00:19:01.080 to support this in particular, so that all of the area grids don't have too much of a pull on them.

00:19:08.900 and it doesn't affect our prices of our electricity

00:19:13.060 as the commissioners seem to think it won't happen.

00:19:20.420 So talk to us about this one specifically.

00:19:23.020 When did they come to the community?

00:19:24.200 I understand that they tried to do this earlier kind of surreptitiously,

00:19:31.340 not above board.

00:19:32.700 Now you've forced them out to see it.

00:19:35.160 So walk us through what the process has been here.

00:19:38.900 They were trying to slip this all through. They got a lot of the zoning changes done without the community really having a clue as to what was happening.

00:19:47.820 But as soon as we started finding out about it and we started doing the research on how large this thing was and all the water usage and the power that it was going to be pulling and the noise it was going to be making, we started putting up a little more of a fight.

00:20:05.540 and more and more people will keep coming into the fight.

00:20:10.100 And it got to the point where we had to organize formally

00:20:14.000 because our representatives don't seem to be listening to us.

00:20:17.400 All they're looking at is the money that they're going to get.

00:20:20.620 They're actually going to be getting a loan from the developer

00:20:24.180 when this is all approved for $10 million

00:20:26.800 to improve the infrastructure of the city.

00:20:31.540 so they're getting paid so they can make city hall bigger it's not going to do much for the

00:20:37.780 residents job wise we're not going to see any permanent jobs because the 50 or so people that 0.90

00:20:44.820 are going to be working in this 4.4 million square foot area are going to be coming from other places

00:20:50.020 because they're going to have to be specialists in the computer technologies AI technology the

00:20:55.440 hardware that's, and even the construction jobs are specialty jobs. I was in highway construction

00:21:02.360 for 20 years, and I can tell you that this is not going to be the local contractor that's going to

00:21:07.860 come in here and lay the concrete for this. This is going to be specialists from all over the country

00:21:13.400 that are building these things all over the country, bouncing in to do the work and bouncing

00:21:18.740 back out with their help. At 4.4 million square feet, it's only 50 permanent jobs. Is that what's

00:21:30.200 going to staff this? 50 to 75. They're claiming they're going to be 465 employees, but they will

00:21:40.560 not give us a separation on how many employees are going to be offsite employees because they

00:21:47.960 can have somebody in the Philippines or India doing all of the data entry and programming

00:21:54.980 and getting paid from this facility. But on site, none of these data centers have very many people

00:22:03.020 manning them at all. As a matter of fact, the more technology that they come up with,

00:22:07.460 the fewer jobs in the data centers themselves are available because they're using AI to take their

00:22:14.220 own jobs so where does this stand now i think you have a meeting of the town commission tomorrow

00:22:22.280 you believe your your uh elected representatives have not stood up for the town is that one of

00:22:27.980 your complaints is that these guys have have been too accommodating to and by the way is this

00:22:32.600 company is this anthropic is this uh elon musk uh is it is it google is it meta who is actually

00:22:39.700 the company that's building this? That's a very good question. And we put this question to the

00:22:45.220 developers. The developers refuse to tell us who's going to be running this facility. They have

00:22:51.880 refused to confirm or deny that this may even be a Chinese group that buys it up and operates it.

00:23:01.280 We had a large meeting where the developer did a nice little presentation and he was asked point

00:23:08.540 blank if he could guarantee that it wouldn't be a foreign nation that bought and ran this 0.82

00:23:14.280 hyperscale data center and he would have refused. He just straight out refused. He won't say who's

00:23:19.380 coming in. We don't know who's going to be running it. So what happens tomorrow night and what is

00:23:26.560 your group proposing? I take it you're going to get people to turn out for this. What is your

00:23:30.720 what is your policy on this? Well, our plan is it's planning and zoning is the meeting tomorrow

00:23:39.440 night. And we'd like to convince that board that it doesn't fit in with our community.

00:23:48.160 It shouldn't fit in with our community. With the way that our charter is already written up,

00:23:54.840 It should not fit in, and we're going to be speaking, trying to reach them, because unlike

00:24:03.080 our commissioners, who will be spending the money that they get from the taxes that this

00:24:07.960 will bring in, this board won't be enticed, hopefully, by that money that's going to be

00:24:16.400 coming in.

00:24:17.400 They won't let that blur their idea of what the plan for the future of our city is.

00:24:24.840 Is this going to be a vote tomorrow night by the Planning and Zoning Commission?

00:24:29.660 They're actually going to vote, or is this just some sort of consulting where they just want to have a public hearing to hear what the public thinks, or are they going to vote at the end of it?

00:24:39.740 They're going to vote on changes to the agreements that they've already made for the changes on the planning, the PUD development zoning that they've given this.

00:24:53.220 it's currently not set up for as industrial of the build that this will be and they're making

00:25:02.560 those changes uh our main fight's going to be on the 14th when the commission themselves are voting

00:25:10.080 on the contract the third contract they've been handed by the developers that i've gotten a look

00:25:19.300 at the contract that they put in in the agenda today for next week's meeting and it doesn't say

00:25:27.020 anything about what they're putting into this building they've got a lot of contractual

00:25:30.940 information but no details on equipment or anything like that and that's one of the selling

00:25:36.920 points that the developers using with our commissioners saying that they're using the

00:25:40.740 newest technology that won't have any of the problems that other data centers are having

00:25:45.720 yeah the promises uh where do people go raul right now to find out more about what this

00:25:53.840 fight's about uh and what phone number should they call if people want to weigh in here

00:25:58.640 to one of these zoning officials now for us we've got the watch it's watchdogs of fort mead

00:26:07.580 dot com is an address to check out and we also have a facebook page and the pinned post

00:26:20.540 at the top of our page has details on our commissioners and who to speak with

00:26:28.420 to give your opinion and voice your voice

00:26:32.600 so you go to watchdogs of fort mead.com that's your website yes yes and the facebook page is

00:26:43.640 the the facebook page is uh is also watchdogs of fort mead the facebook page is concerning

00:26:51.880 the fort mead data center

00:26:53.860 watchdogs of fort mead okay developed from the concerning the fort mead data center page

00:27:02.440 we didn't plan on becoming a formal group until our representatives

00:27:07.380 basically were blinded by the light of the money.

00:27:12.600 Yeah. You got blown off and you decided to fight back.

00:27:15.860 We hear that a lot here in the war room. Trust me.

00:27:18.540 People in the Commonwealth of Virginia doing the same thing.

00:27:20.920 Do you have social, do you have social media,

00:27:22.700 do you have a personal Twitter account or where people can follow you?

00:27:26.520 I do not have Twitter, but they can find me on the Facebook there.

00:27:32.440 I'm all over it at the,

00:27:36.440 at the same thing you're concerning at the same Facebook. Yeah. Okay.

00:27:41.320 So Raul Alfonso otherwise they'll send me on there. Thank you.

00:27:45.560 Thank Raul. Thank you so much.

00:27:48.200 Look forward to being back on this tomorrow and see what happens tomorrow

00:27:51.000 night. These data centers are a scourge in this country,

00:27:56.280 a scourge. All of AI right now is a scourge. Just is.

00:28:00.840 devouring jobs trying to devour your humanity joe allen is going to join us on the wall short

00:28:08.000 commercial break dr thayer and i are going to break down the president's press conference and

00:28:12.020 what it means about war and the rumors of war next in the war room

00:28:16.780 everyone's focused on how the conflict in the middle east is raising oil prices but there's

00:28:27.840 another grim reality to this contention. Oil isn't the only resource being constrained. About

00:28:34.500 one-third of global fertilizer trade happens through this region. And with spring planting

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00:29:47.980 We have a plan because of the power of our military where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o'clock tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again. 0.97

00:30:08.060 I mean complete demolition by 12 o'clock and it'll happen over a period of four hours if we

00:30:14.140 wanted to we don't want that to happen we may even get involved with helping them rebuild their

00:30:20.220 nation and you know what if that's the case the last thing we want to do is start with power

00:30:25.120 plants which are among the most expensive thing and bridges you saw the bridge the bridge one

00:30:30.160 We were very close to a deal. And then I got a call from Mr. Whitcoff, Mr. Kushner and J.D. saying, I think they're breaking the deal.

00:30:43.700 I said, tell them that's OK. Don't worry about it. But tell them to look out their window and watch.

00:30:48.820 And within 45 minutes, I gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge.

00:30:54.700 I gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge in, I believe, the Middle East, 0.97

00:30:59.020 but the biggest bridge in Iran.

00:31:00.600 And within 10 minutes after I gave that order, that bridge was over.

00:31:07.580 So do I want to do that? No.

00:31:10.280 Do I want to destroy their infrastructure? No.

00:31:13.260 It will take them 100 years to rebuild.

00:31:15.760 Right now, if we left today, it would take them 20 years to rebuild their country, and it would never be as good as it was.

00:31:24.500 And the only way they're going to be able to rebuild their country is to utilize the genius of the United States of America.

00:31:33.420 Let's leave the nation-building topic for a different day.

00:31:36.680 Let's get through this ultimatum.

00:31:39.700 Dr. Thayer, we had Trita Parsley on a day.

00:31:44.260 And I do think that there are elements of the Republican Guard, and I think a lot of the elements that are running the show right now, that think they're winning.

00:31:53.440 They think that the initiative has shifted ever since the Israelis bombed the gas field with the Qatar.

00:32:01.240 And you can see that shifted the center of gravity of this war, this battle down to the Gulf, made the Strait or Hormuz a major strategic entity in this, even more so than it normally would be.

00:32:16.540 They think they've got the initiative.

00:32:18.200 They think they're winning.

00:32:19.500 And so the president's given an ultimatum, and he's part of more forces in the area.

00:32:24.440 and his toll and you see he's saying hey look if he if i don't feel that i've got uh at least

00:32:33.160 the movement or some sort of deal that looks like it's real and i think somebody to actually

00:32:38.960 enforce the deal on your side starting eight o'clock tomorrow we're going to take this thing

00:32:43.760 up a notch your thoughts yeah it was an important press conference i think for

00:32:49.960 several reasons. First, he illuminated the diplomatic track. So the diplomatic track is

00:32:56.000 active. And Steve, we could see a breakthrough at some point in time, right? You never want to

00:33:03.620 box Trump in, of course, and surprise is something that goes hand in glove with President Trump.

00:33:11.080 Second, the military track is proceeding exceptionally well ahead of schedule.

00:33:18.680 Thirdly, he's broadening the target set tomorrow, right?

00:33:22.300 So we're going to go after the infrastructure target, economic and infrastructure targets explicitly.

00:33:28.400 All three of those reinforce one another, the diplomatic track, the military track,

00:33:34.100 and then broadening that target set to put more pain on the Iranians.

00:33:40.400 You're right.

00:33:41.540 There's certainly going to be a coterie of Iranians who believe that they're winning this 1.00

00:33:46.960 and that they need to stick through to the bitter end.

00:33:50.460 And if they just endure more pain, endure another day, another week, et cetera,

00:33:56.360 they're going to come out with a semblance of victory.

00:34:01.900 The last point I would make, again, is that we should expect this to go on for weeks.

00:34:07.080 As Secretary Rubio and President Trump himself have said multiple times now

00:34:13.960 that this is going to be going on for another two weeks or another four weeks, right, through

00:34:19.900 April at least. So unless there's a break on the diplomatic track, which could certainly happen,

00:34:29.380 this is going to be going on for some time. More pain is going to be applied on the Iranians 1.00

00:34:35.540 with the expectation that they do have a breaking point and that is going to be reached when the

00:34:43.140 economic target set uh is um similarly attrited the way the military target set uh is um uh is

00:34:51.440 greatly attrited obviously dr thayer hang on a second so this whole initial idea of essentially

00:35:01.420 state collapse because you're seeing from some of the top economic papers around the world that

00:35:08.420 their economy now a big part of it has gone to barter uh because they've been cut off on many

00:35:14.040 different areas although not totally cut off with getting money because i don't think dubai

00:35:19.020 has done that yet if you're talking about state collapse how much intent i mean look we've had

00:35:25.120 12 000 13 000 sorties already on these people uh how much do you think you continue to go

00:35:32.000 to get actually because this gets beyond i want people to understand this is beyond

00:35:37.080 the original Captain Fennell and CENCOM, Admiral Cooper's presentation of defanging and declawing.

00:35:44.700 You're basically saying we got through pretty much the defanging and declawing.

00:35:50.000 Now we've got to make, these people aren't paying attention to the guys that run it.

00:35:54.460 We've got to get state collapse on top of them.

00:35:58.380 And we do that by a, as you call it, different target set.

00:36:01.820 Right. So he's gone after the military target set is getting near completed, the 13,000. And we're well into that, obviously, north of 11,000 targets hit. But those are going to be precision targets directed against, if you will, military command and control, other military targets, the missiles, the Air Force, the Navy, et cetera.

00:36:29.260 the damage to the economic target set is going to become is in a military sense easier to inflict

00:36:36.480 they're softer targets right they're counter value targets and the effect on the economy of course

00:36:42.800 is explicit right that's the point of targeting them they're going to do great damage to the

00:36:49.480 Iranian economy and that's going to facilitate as you said perhaps you know it's going to generate

00:36:57.760 instability in the regime. It's going to lengthen the time that Iran needs to rebuild. And it's

00:37:04.060 going to inflict more pain on the Iranian government as well. So the diplomatic track

00:37:11.120 is moving. The military track is continuing. And now President Trump has said we're broadening

00:37:16.800 on the economic target set. You're right. The Iranians are certainly, again, a group of them 1.00

00:37:25.580 that are going to see this through the bitter end, and it's a question of whether this pain,

00:37:29.780 right, this is the application of pain, after all, to coerce Iran to come around our way of 0.95

00:37:36.220 seeing things, whether that's going to be sufficient or not. We should expect that Iran 1.00

00:37:42.580 is still capable of complex military operations and surprise. So I go back to the Diego Garcia

00:37:51.080 attack with the IRBMs, intermediate range ballistic missiles, we should expect that 0.97

00:37:59.540 the Iranians are going to have some tricks up their sleeve and they're not anticipating 1.00

00:38:08.780 that, whether that's in the Gulf or elsewhere, Steve, I think is important to bear in mind.

00:38:15.720 have have have strategic bombing look you take three separate time frames japan and world war

00:38:23.120 ii vietnam in the vietnam war in the 60s early 70s and the persians today um did we understand

00:38:31.720 their cultures well enough because look in japan i mean we firebombed uh tokyo we firebombed 1.00

00:38:40.980 virtually every industrial city in uh in in um in in japan mainland japan we were getting ready for

00:38:49.420 a four million man invasion uh and we were looking at a million casualties it'd be before and the

00:38:56.680 people didn't in in the military i don't think lame even knew about or wasn't very familiar with

00:39:01.700 the atomic weapon we dropped two atomic remember we had to drop two atomic weapons on them the first

00:39:06.500 one didn't get their attention enough my point is that the strategic bombing in 1944 and 45

00:39:12.520 didn't break the japanese vietnam vietnam i i was reading the other day i think that was something

00:39:19.240 i don't think i got this number wrong it was five million sorties or something over the entire

00:39:24.540 length of the war right and they still fought on to the end the persians here it doesn't seem like

00:39:31.700 And here's the thing. I'm not saying they are winning, but you can tell their belief is that they're winning.

00:39:38.540 Is this strategic bombing, which we will go to on not directly military targets, but the infrastructure, you know, the power grids, the oil, the things that provide the wherewithal for their military complex.

00:39:52.540 So it's not a it's certainly not a war crime. That's ridiculous. But do you think that brings them? 0.89

00:39:58.800 Do you think that gets their attention, or are these folks in this asymmetric war they're fighting just going to hunker down more?

00:40:06.080 Yeah, I think that at this stage, Iran does have a breaking point as Japan had a breaking point, as the North Vietnamese had a breaking point. 0.67

00:40:16.320 And when we think about those campaigns, we recognize, of course, their joint campaigns.

00:40:20.700 It was the Navy blockade. The submarines had cut Japan off, the mining of Japanese ports.

00:40:27.800 And then, of course, between really March and July of 1945, Curtis LeMay had run out of Japanese cities to destroy.

00:40:36.540 He was so effective at firebombing them.

00:40:39.500 They put Japan in a position where the atomic bombs provided a shock, right, an external shock that gave the group within the Japanese government that wanted to surrender the excuse to surrender.

00:40:54.300 and they were obviously able to get the emperor on board despite resistance in the Japanese

00:40:59.160 military. In Vietnam in 72, we want to remember that Operation Freedom Train and Linebacker 1

00:41:06.280 and then Linebacker 2 broke, Linebacker 2 in particular, broke the North Vietnamese, right? 0.84

00:41:14.000 They had run out of SAMs. We were reaching air superiority. We had mined their harbors. We had

00:41:20.320 destroyed the rail lines and the roads coming in from China, which meant that they couldn't

00:41:26.220 resupply their surface-to-air missiles. So they were in a position of great vulnerability.

00:41:32.960 So these joint operations can be extremely effective at bringing the Iranians to the 0.99

00:41:41.240 point where they're going to concede, right? Whether that's going to be limited concessions

00:41:45.820 or total concessions of course it's going to be a matter for diplomacy but there are going to be

00:41:52.120 just a japanese government hang on but hang on but hang on that's my point it took it took two

00:41:58.120 two atomic weapons two atomic weapons to get uh hirohito against the middle and by the way the

00:42:04.920 military junta the military guys didn't want to surrender after two they're ready to say drop them 0.99

00:42:08.940 we don't care we don't care how many civilians you kill we'll we'll kill the americans americans 0.99

00:42:13.360 will never take us over because we'll defeat them on the landing uh the vietnamese we might 1.00

00:42:18.500 have broken their back but they fought on in in in the august the helicopters on the roof were the

00:42:25.740 americans taking the south vietnamese out not not the vietcong or the north vietnamese so starting

00:42:31.880 tomorrow night president trump has been pretty adamant he's saying hey if i start at eight o'clock

00:42:36.520 with the target sets we got by midnight they're finished your response to that well my

00:42:43.300 We want to keep in mind, of course, what the military won in North Vietnam with those campaigns, again, joint campaigns, the Navy, Army, Air Force working together, the Marines, Henry Kissinger gave away in the accord, right?

00:42:59.620 He wanted out of Vietnam and put the North Vietnamese in a position where they were going to be able to conquer South Vietnam two years later. 0.99

00:43:11.040 By March 73, of course, in April 75, North Vietnam conquers South Vietnam. 0.74

00:43:16.760 So the military can win conflicts, but the civilians can give it away.

00:43:21.680 Right. The diplomats can give it away.

00:43:23.400 So they have to work hand in glove.

00:43:25.020 What the military is achieving in Iran, right, the diplomats are going to have to secure.

00:43:32.320 Hang on one second. Hang on one second. We're going to take a short break.

00:43:35.260 Dr. Thayer, Joe Allen's up with us also.

00:43:38.360 Mark Beal, you heard about the data center.

00:43:43.120 Joe's going to give us the bigger picture, and he joins us. Short break.

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00:45:09.760 here's your host steven k man yeah i think it's gonna take something pretty dramatic

00:45:17.260 by the iranians to get president trump's attention on this otherwise i think unless they're unless

00:45:23.500 they stop playing games and deal directly i just i see tomorrow night being uh president trump gave

00:45:30.760 him 11 days and hey you didn't we didn't get anything put together here we go uh dr thayer

00:45:35.560 you're gonna be with me again tomorrow morning in the afternoon also in the run-up to this

00:45:39.540 Where do people go to get your content, sir?

00:45:43.600 Steve, people can reach me at BradThardX and BradleyThardGetter and on truth.

00:45:49.000 So I think I'm very pleased to talk through this as we really look at the consequences of this war, how it's going to terminate, and to recognize that as we go into that economic target set, the infrastructure economic targets, it's going to take Iran years to rebuild from this.

00:46:09.380 conceivably. And it's not going to be a threat to regional hegemony. If you recall, President

00:46:15.500 Trump mentioned that near the outset of the war, where he talked about one of our aims here was

00:46:21.900 to ensure that Iran does not stand any chance of being a regional hegemon. Going after that 0.97

00:46:28.780 economic target set is really going to damage the Iranian economy, clearly. Yeah. And coupled

00:46:35.420 with the destruction the defending decline they will not be yes hegemon regionally or otherwise

00:46:40.600 for quite a while uh dr thayer we'll see you tomorrow thank you for your time and attention

00:46:45.060 on this matter as the president says uh joe you're going to hold over until the next hour but i got

00:46:50.000 to ask you you've done a magnificent job humans first all these different groups we're working

00:46:54.080 with to really you know we stop the uh ai amnesty the first time and the big beautiful bill stop it

00:47:01.700 The second time in the NDAA, the must-pass NDA, they come up with a framework.

00:47:08.140 The framework's kind of shattered right now.

00:47:11.060 David Sachs has been relieved for cause.

00:47:13.460 He's gone.

00:47:14.240 No longer AI czar.

00:47:16.540 I feel like we're winning, but now we've got Sam Altman and others that are stepping forward.

00:47:22.120 Am I misreading this?

00:47:24.000 Now coming forward and said, hey, we're the guys that can put this all together.

00:47:28.240 We're the good guys.

00:47:29.840 AI's coming faster than you think.

00:47:31.700 harder than you think, bigger than you think, and you better embrace us and you better embrace us

00:47:37.260 today. Joe Allen. Well, Steve, the fight is never ending. And today, OpenAI released their

00:47:45.940 Industrial Policy for the Intelligence Age. They subtitle it Ideas to Keep People First.

00:47:54.060 Basically, it's a very vague set of policy recommendations, everything from how to tax companies that are automating, redistribute the wealth, turn the entirety of the American society into cyborgs and mitigate the risks that they say are imminent of cyber attacks that are enabled by AI systems such as ChatGBT, bioweapon production,

00:48:20.400 which would be enabled by systems like ChatGPT, and of course, loss of control. What happens if

00:48:27.180 the AI that they create goes rogue? They suggest using government agencies to audit all AI companies,

00:48:35.940 but I thought it interesting. They focus in on Casey, the Center for AI Standards and Innovation,

00:48:42.240 which is really very much kind of a nascent organization still in the Trump administration.

00:48:48.620 It's very unclear exactly where it goes, but you can see that OpenAI is trying to position themselves as a partner with the Trump administration.

00:48:59.420 And also the language about wealth redistribution makes me think that they are preparing perhaps for a change of guard after November.

00:49:09.480 And it's much more, I think, Democrat friendly than Republican or Trump friendly.

00:49:14.920 It's worth noting, though, Steve, that the same day, actually hours before they released this and the Mike Allen interview on Axios with Sam Altman, Ronan Farrow at The New Yorker released a very long, in-depth article painting Sam Altman in the worst possible light through the eyes of his peers, his former executives at OpenAI.

00:49:36.200 It's entitled, Sam Altman may control our future.

00:49:39.760 Can he be trusted?

00:49:41.760 Interesting.

00:49:42.380 That was a question that Mike Allen asked Sam Altman directly.

00:49:46.280 And, of course, he weaseled and waffled around it as Sam Altman is wont to do.

00:49:51.700 The answer is a resounding no.

00:49:54.660 Joe, hang on.

00:49:55.440 You're going to be back with him in the 6 o'clock hour.

00:49:58.000 Mike Lindell, long, tough day.

00:50:01.260 This war, it's going to be a couple of tough days.

00:50:03.260 Tomorrow night, President Trump's given a deadline.

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Bannon's War Room - April 06, 2026

Episode 5278： President Trump Delivers Another Ultimatum For Iran, Deadline April 7th At 8pm

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