00:00:00.000to open it immediately. But there has to be a mechanism between CENTCOM, the Revolutionary
00:00:07.660Guard, what's left the Iranian government and President Trump's government to make sure
00:00:12.280that there's some sort of mechanism to work towards a full opening. It may not happen
00:00:16.300right away because this thing could take a week or so to actually do it, to actually
00:00:21.400get the straight open. But I think that has to be part of it. If not, you know, you've
00:00:26.440Here's the thing. You've put a deadline. Like his president said, let's not lose track of what he said.
00:00:31.540He said they asked they asked for seven days. And I'm just going on what the president says.
00:00:36.020He says they asked for seven. I gave them 10. And by the way, since I didn't want to do anything on the day after Easter, I threw in another day, a bonus day.
00:00:43.960It's 11. That's enough. If you do more, I think you're sending a wrong signal as much as, you know, people are looking for an off ramp here.
00:00:52.000you may have to drop a hammer on these people because right now
00:00:56.180they believe, and I think Trita Parsi is right, in their mind
00:01:00.360they feel they have the initiative. They feel they've shifted the center of gravity of this war
00:01:04.560to the Persian Gulf. Given the magnificent
00:01:11.860get the pilot back, I think the president now is in
00:01:16.360a situation that if they try to play games, he drops a hammer again
00:01:20.560And and then we and then we see where we are. Otherwise, you just this thing's a drag out.
00:01:25.020I'm going to throw it to you very quickly, though. I was in the trading pits and when Gulf Desert Storm happened, I'll never forget.
00:01:30.980Right. The day of Desert Storm, the night of oil had just run out from twenty five to forty dollars a barrel in anticipation of a massive drawn out war with the Middle Eastern country producing country or producing country.
00:01:42.200By morning, it had shot back down because we obliterated them in the air.
00:01:46.460and i think the point is this time's different steve because this we did the same thing we took
00:01:50.980out their we took out the defenses but oil the traders for whatever reason aren't seeing this
00:01:56.100as an opportunity to bring it back down yet they need more steve i'll let you go have a have a great
00:02:00.780show yeah hang on hang on real quickly how how was the afternoon how was the afternoon
00:02:05.760what's the market tell us as we go into ominously quiet it stayed at 112 which is wildly crazy with
00:02:11.920what's going on stayed at 112 all day the stock market was up a touch stayed it was everyone's
00:02:17.040holding their breath right now okay eric we'll see you in the morning on the morning always good
00:02:23.660i'll talk to you tonight thank you brother see you tomorrow thank you sir okay we've got a quite
00:02:28.980intense cold open for this audience let's go ahead and play it the show is packed for the next two
00:02:33.600hours let's go and let it rip we can't let iran have a nuclear weapon you know we got regime change
00:02:41.080we do we're dealing with a much different regime than before we're doing with different people
00:02:45.960they're smarter i think they're sharper uh and far less radical we have regime change we didn't
00:02:54.280do this for regime change we did it for the fact and my my view was very simple i saw somebody said
00:03:00.360oh he doesn't have a plan i have the best plan of all but i'm not going to tell you what my plan is
00:03:04.680you know they want me to say here's my plan we're going to attack at 9 47 in the morning and then
00:03:09.960we're going to do this and then we're going to and if you don't do that they say i have a plan
00:03:14.520these people know what the plan is everybody here knows what the plan is but uh it's very unfair to
00:03:21.160say you know because i don't mind being insulted i've been insulted for many years by the by the
00:03:25.640fake news but you can't it's so bad for the people that are so pro you just saw two great and john
00:03:33.800ratliff three unbelievable people they have a plan every every single thing has been thought
00:03:39.240out by all of us but i can't reveal the plan to the media so you know his command america projects
00:03:46.760power with confidence and brings our people home with victory and that continues today by the way
00:03:53.800per the president's direction today will be the largest volume of strikes since day one
00:03:57.960of this operation tomorrow even more than today and then iran has a choice choose wisely
00:04:05.400because this president does not play around you can ask Soleimani you can ask Maduro you can ask
00:04:14.380Khamenei the entire country could be taken out in one night and that night might be tomorrow night
00:04:21.320you called the yesterday in your truth social you called the Iranians crazy bastards true um
00:04:27.800what is your response to critics who say that I don't care about critics what is your response
00:04:32.620It's the critics who say that it is your mental health that should perhaps be examined as this war continues.
00:04:36.720Well, I haven't heard that, but if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people like me
00:04:40.660because our country was being ripped off on trade and everything for many years until I came along.
00:04:48.580So if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people.
00:04:54.760During this engagement, one of the Sandy aircraft,
00:04:57.780the one primarily responsible for communicating with the downed pilot,
00:05:01.620was hit by enemy fire. This pilot continued to fight, continued the mission, and then upon exit
00:05:10.260flew his aircraft into another country and determined that the airplane was not landable.
00:05:15.900This was one of our A-10 Sandy aircraft. The pilot then made the decision to eject over
00:05:22.180friendly territory and was quickly and safely recovered and is doing fine.
00:05:27.120After picking up Dude 4-4 Alpha, the HH-60 Jolly Green fight was engaged by every single person in
00:05:37.600Iran who had a small arms weapon. And one of the aircraft, the trailing aircraft, took several hits.
00:05:44.500The crew sustained minor injury and they are going to be fine.
00:05:48.820When he was finally able to activate his emergency transponder, his first message
00:05:54.780was simple, and it was powerful. He sent a message, God is good. In that moment of isolation
00:06:03.980and danger, his faith and fighting spirit shone through. You see, shot down on a Friday,
00:06:11.060good Friday, hidden in a cave, a crevice, all of Saturday, and rescued on Sunday,
00:06:20.460flown out of iran as the sun was rising on easter sunday a pilot reborn
00:06:28.160all home and accounted for a nation rejoicing god is good
00:06:35.360go ahead please thank you mr president um you said earlier today during the egg roll
00:06:41.740that you would like to take iran's oil but americans want u.s forces home correct what's
00:06:47.820If I had my choice, if I had my choice, yeah, because I'm a businessman first with Venezuela, as you know, the war was over in about 45 minutes and we have great people running Venezuela. Very good people. I mean, the relationship is good and we are a partner with Venezuela and we've taken hundreds of millions of barrels, hundreds of millions over 100 million barrels already is in the
00:07:17.820used and refined and out and paid paid for that war many many times over many times you know the
00:07:24.540old days to the victim okay you know that to the uh to the winner belong the spoils go the spoils
00:07:34.380and i've said why don't we use it to the victor go the spoils and we don't have that we haven't
00:07:40.400had that in this country probably in a hundred years because even the second world war you look
00:07:44.260the second world war we didn't have it with the second world we helped rebuild all those countries
00:07:49.220we rebuilt germany how about germany telling us germany telling us that uh well it's not their war
00:07:56.740we had nothing to do with they wanted me to go and tell them everything i was doing
00:08:01.700we didn't know anything about it well if i would have told them they would have leaked it
00:08:05.700and we wouldn't have been nearly as successful possibly right but to the victor belong the
00:08:10.660spoils so we haven't heard we haven't heard that in i think maybe hundreds of years mr president
00:08:18.260are you allowed to or are you willing to end this conflict with iran charging tolls
00:08:23.700for passage through the street uh us charging tolls iran what about us charging tolls is that
00:08:30.820something you're considering i'd rather do that than let them have them run why shouldn't we we're
00:08:34.980We're the winner. We won. Okay. They are militarily defeated.
00:08:40.100The only thing they have is the psychology of, oh, we're going to drop a couple of mines in the water. All right.
00:08:46.220No, we, I mean, we have a concept where we'll charge tools. Okay. I thought you meant us.
00:08:52.420Your question, your question would, your question would have been more accurate if you said us.
00:08:57.480Your messaging on the war has moved from the war is coming to an end to we're going to be bombing Iran to the stone ages.
00:09:04.380and we've heard a range of those kind of messages so are you so which is it are you winding this
00:09:10.240down are you escalating i can't tell you i don't know i can't tell it depends what they do this is
00:09:15.020a critical period they have a period of well till tomorrow at eight o'clock i gave them an extension
00:09:22.680they asked for an extension of seven days right i said steve give them 10 days 10 days is up
00:09:32.080actually today so i gave him 11 i guess indirectly i thought it was inappropriate the day after
00:09:36.800easter i want to be a nice person uh they have till tomorrow now we'll see what happens i can
00:09:44.780tell you they're negotiating we think in good faith we're going to find out we're getting the
00:09:49.520help of some incredible countries that want this to be ended because it affects them also a lot of
00:09:56.560People are affected by this, but we're giving them, we're giving them till tomorrow, eight
00:10:14.200We're, we're, we're post these trespasses, right?
00:10:19.720So these things have already happened.
00:10:21.400People warned that they could happen during the election.
00:10:23.560People warned that Hegseth might not be a good person to be on the wall for the rule of law inside the military.
00:10:33.500He's there anyway. And Trump is now threatening to bomb Iran to the Stone Ages.
00:10:37.740And Pete Hegseth has said that, in his view, the theory of war in Iran is to give no quarter.
00:10:44.420What does that mean inside the military, General?
00:10:48.400It means you use any means possible to kill people.
00:10:52.800You know, you're not going to let people escape.
00:10:55.160You're not going to take any prisoners.
00:10:57.100You're basically going to rape, pillage, and plunder, taking it back to the 17th century.
00:11:02.320And, Nicole, what we're talking about is behavior that modern societies have condemned and said we ought to at least pose or provide debt guidelines for those who have to execute violence.
00:11:18.180And, you know, I'm going to go back to something you said a minute ago, because I've trained for 40 years as a as a soldier and as a commander.
00:11:28.820And when you're an officer in the United States Army, you're loyal to a couple of things.
00:11:33.480You're primarily loyal to the Constitution.
00:11:37.320You are also loyal to your superiors if they give, as you said, lawful orders.
00:11:43.940When they start giving unlawful orders, you find a way to push back on them and to make sure they adjust their approach.
00:11:51.940But you also are loyal to the soldiers that are under your command.
00:11:56.140So those three loyalties sometimes are conflicting.
00:11:59.060So I'm sure there's a lot of military commanders right now, a lot of senior officers who are saying to themselves, I can't obey an unlawful order.
00:12:08.280I can't do things that I know are absolutely wrong.
00:12:12.040but they also feel like they have to provide support for their soldiers who don't just get
00:12:17.720to quit. They have to stay in the military and potentially see an uprising in all of these
00:12:24.360things. So the senior military officers are in a real quandary on this one because they know they
00:12:30.420can't do some of the things that the president is asking them to do. They have a secretary of
00:12:36.320Defense, who has continually said lethality is better than legality or words to that effect.
00:12:42.640So it's really causing some dynamics within those who are thinking soldiers saying, how do I
00:12:49.820continue to serve my Constitution and live by the rules that are in law and still conduct these
00:12:56.840kind of actions which are horribly immoral and illegal. It is Easter Monday, 6 April in the year
00:13:08.740of our Lord, 2026, that you see what President Trump is up against. They're going, oh, these are
00:13:14.060all war crimes. They're not war crimes. It's ridiculous. And Pete is laying out what a battle
00:13:19.160strategy is. He's not saying to, you know, kill civilians. Look at the number of sorties. You can
00:13:24.400tell this there's some dispute whether it's 11 000 or 12 500 but there's a ton of combat missions
00:13:33.820and a ton of weapons that have been dropped in relatively few civilian casualties it's kind of
00:13:40.600shocking how low the civilian casualties are because people have gone out of their way
00:13:43.920to make sure they're hitting military targets about the electric grid and the oil resources
00:13:50.820They're inextricably linked with the war machine of the theocratic government.
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00:16:24.500we're doing a couple more cuts uh from the press conference afternoon and dr thayer is going to
00:16:35.180join us in a moment but i want to get to something because i want to put it at the top of mind here
00:16:39.540raul alfonso joins us and you're from the watchdogs of fort meade is that correct is that
00:16:46.700your group right correct yes it is and and what are the watch what are the watchdogs of fort meade
00:16:53.900It sounds like a classic war room posse group with watchdogs of Fort Meade.
00:19:35.160So walk us through what the process has been here.
00:19:38.900They were trying to slip this all through. They got a lot of the zoning changes done without the community really having a clue as to what was happening.
00:19:47.820But as soon as we started finding out about it and we started doing the research on how large this thing was and all the water usage and the power that it was going to be pulling and the noise it was going to be making, we started putting up a little more of a fight.
00:20:05.540and more and more people will keep coming into the fight.
00:20:10.100And it got to the point where we had to organize formally
00:20:14.000because our representatives don't seem to be listening to us.
00:20:17.400All they're looking at is the money that they're going to get.
00:20:20.620They're actually going to be getting a loan from the developer
00:20:24.180when this is all approved for $10 million
00:20:26.800to improve the infrastructure of the city.
00:20:31.540so they're getting paid so they can make city hall bigger it's not going to do much for the
00:20:37.780residents job wise we're not going to see any permanent jobs because the 50 or so people that
00:20:44.820are going to be working in this 4.4 million square foot area are going to be coming from other places
00:20:50.020because they're going to have to be specialists in the computer technologies AI technology the
00:20:55.440hardware that's, and even the construction jobs are specialty jobs. I was in highway construction
00:21:02.360for 20 years, and I can tell you that this is not going to be the local contractor that's going to
00:21:07.860come in here and lay the concrete for this. This is going to be specialists from all over the country
00:21:13.400that are building these things all over the country, bouncing in to do the work and bouncing
00:21:18.740back out with their help. At 4.4 million square feet, it's only 50 permanent jobs. Is that what's
00:21:30.200going to staff this? 50 to 75. They're claiming they're going to be 465 employees, but they will
00:21:40.560not give us a separation on how many employees are going to be offsite employees because they
00:21:47.960can have somebody in the Philippines or India doing all of the data entry and programming
00:21:54.980and getting paid from this facility. But on site, none of these data centers have very many people
00:22:03.020manning them at all. As a matter of fact, the more technology that they come up with,
00:22:07.460the fewer jobs in the data centers themselves are available because they're using AI to take their
00:22:14.220own jobs so where does this stand now i think you have a meeting of the town commission tomorrow
00:22:22.280you believe your your uh elected representatives have not stood up for the town is that one of
00:22:27.980your complaints is that these guys have have been too accommodating to and by the way is this
00:22:32.600company is this anthropic is this uh elon musk uh is it is it google is it meta who is actually
00:22:39.700the company that's building this? That's a very good question. And we put this question to the
00:22:45.220developers. The developers refuse to tell us who's going to be running this facility. They have
00:22:51.880refused to confirm or deny that this may even be a Chinese group that buys it up and operates it.
00:23:01.280We had a large meeting where the developer did a nice little presentation and he was asked point
00:23:08.540blank if he could guarantee that it wouldn't be a foreign nation that bought and ran this
00:23:14.280hyperscale data center and he would have refused. He just straight out refused. He won't say who's
00:23:19.380coming in. We don't know who's going to be running it. So what happens tomorrow night and what is
00:23:26.560your group proposing? I take it you're going to get people to turn out for this. What is your
00:23:30.720what is your policy on this? Well, our plan is it's planning and zoning is the meeting tomorrow
00:23:39.440night. And we'd like to convince that board that it doesn't fit in with our community.
00:23:48.160It shouldn't fit in with our community. With the way that our charter is already written up,
00:23:54.840It should not fit in, and we're going to be speaking, trying to reach them, because unlike
00:24:03.080our commissioners, who will be spending the money that they get from the taxes that this
00:24:07.960will bring in, this board won't be enticed, hopefully, by that money that's going to be
00:24:17.400They won't let that blur their idea of what the plan for the future of our city is.
00:24:24.840Is this going to be a vote tomorrow night by the Planning and Zoning Commission?
00:24:29.660They're actually going to vote, or is this just some sort of consulting where they just want to have a public hearing to hear what the public thinks, or are they going to vote at the end of it?
00:24:39.740They're going to vote on changes to the agreements that they've already made for the changes on the planning, the PUD development zoning that they've given this.
00:24:53.220it's currently not set up for as industrial of the build that this will be and they're making
00:25:02.560those changes uh our main fight's going to be on the 14th when the commission themselves are voting
00:25:10.080on the contract the third contract they've been handed by the developers that i've gotten a look
00:25:19.300at the contract that they put in in the agenda today for next week's meeting and it doesn't say
00:25:27.020anything about what they're putting into this building they've got a lot of contractual
00:25:30.940information but no details on equipment or anything like that and that's one of the selling
00:25:36.920points that the developers using with our commissioners saying that they're using the
00:25:40.740newest technology that won't have any of the problems that other data centers are having
00:25:45.720yeah the promises uh where do people go raul right now to find out more about what this
00:25:53.840fight's about uh and what phone number should they call if people want to weigh in here
00:25:58.640to one of these zoning officials now for us we've got the watch it's watchdogs of fort mead
00:26:07.580dot com is an address to check out and we also have a facebook page and the pinned post
00:26:20.540at the top of our page has details on our commissioners and who to speak with
00:26:28.420to give your opinion and voice your voice
00:26:32.600so you go to watchdogs of fort mead.com that's your website yes yes and the facebook page is
00:26:43.640the the facebook page is uh is also watchdogs of fort mead the facebook page is concerning
00:27:48.200Look forward to being back on this tomorrow and see what happens tomorrow
00:27:51.000night. These data centers are a scourge in this country,
00:27:56.280a scourge. All of AI right now is a scourge. Just is.
00:28:00.840devouring jobs trying to devour your humanity joe allen is going to join us on the wall short
00:28:08.000commercial break dr thayer and i are going to break down the president's press conference and
00:28:12.020what it means about war and the rumors of war next in the war room
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00:29:47.980We have a plan because of the power of our military where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o'clock tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again.
00:30:08.060I mean complete demolition by 12 o'clock and it'll happen over a period of four hours if we
00:30:14.140wanted to we don't want that to happen we may even get involved with helping them rebuild their
00:30:20.220nation and you know what if that's the case the last thing we want to do is start with power
00:30:25.120plants which are among the most expensive thing and bridges you saw the bridge the bridge one
00:30:30.160We were very close to a deal. And then I got a call from Mr. Whitcoff, Mr. Kushner and J.D. saying, I think they're breaking the deal.
00:30:43.700I said, tell them that's OK. Don't worry about it. But tell them to look out their window and watch.
00:30:48.820And within 45 minutes, I gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge.
00:30:54.700I gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge in, I believe, the Middle East,
00:31:39.700Dr. Thayer, we had Trita Parsley on a day.
00:31:44.260And I do think that there are elements of the Republican Guard, and I think a lot of the elements that are running the show right now, that think they're winning.
00:31:53.440They think that the initiative has shifted ever since the Israelis bombed the gas field with the Qatar.
00:32:01.240And you can see that shifted the center of gravity of this war, this battle down to the Gulf, made the Strait or Hormuz a major strategic entity in this, even more so than it normally would be.
00:32:16.540They think they've got the initiative.
00:33:41.540There's certainly going to be a coterie of Iranians who believe that they're winning this
00:33:46.960and that they need to stick through to the bitter end.
00:33:50.460And if they just endure more pain, endure another day, another week, et cetera,
00:33:56.360they're going to come out with a semblance of victory.
00:34:01.900The last point I would make, again, is that we should expect this to go on for weeks.
00:34:07.080As Secretary Rubio and President Trump himself have said multiple times now
00:34:13.960that this is going to be going on for another two weeks or another four weeks, right, through
00:34:19.900April at least. So unless there's a break on the diplomatic track, which could certainly happen,
00:34:29.380this is going to be going on for some time. More pain is going to be applied on the Iranians
00:34:35.540with the expectation that they do have a breaking point and that is going to be reached when the
00:34:43.140economic target set uh is um similarly attrited the way the military target set uh is um uh is
00:34:51.440greatly attrited obviously dr thayer hang on a second so this whole initial idea of essentially
00:35:01.420state collapse because you're seeing from some of the top economic papers around the world that
00:35:08.420their economy now a big part of it has gone to barter uh because they've been cut off on many
00:35:14.040different areas although not totally cut off with getting money because i don't think dubai
00:35:19.020has done that yet if you're talking about state collapse how much intent i mean look we've had
00:35:25.12012 000 13 000 sorties already on these people uh how much do you think you continue to go
00:35:32.000to get actually because this gets beyond i want people to understand this is beyond
00:35:37.080the original Captain Fennell and CENCOM, Admiral Cooper's presentation of defanging and declawing.
00:35:44.700You're basically saying we got through pretty much the defanging and declawing.
00:35:50.000Now we've got to make, these people aren't paying attention to the guys that run it.
00:35:54.460We've got to get state collapse on top of them.
00:35:58.380And we do that by a, as you call it, different target set.
00:36:01.820Right. So he's gone after the military target set is getting near completed, the 13,000. And we're well into that, obviously, north of 11,000 targets hit. But those are going to be precision targets directed against, if you will, military command and control, other military targets, the missiles, the Air Force, the Navy, et cetera.
00:36:29.260the damage to the economic target set is going to become is in a military sense easier to inflict
00:36:36.480they're softer targets right they're counter value targets and the effect on the economy of course
00:36:42.800is explicit right that's the point of targeting them they're going to do great damage to the
00:36:49.480Iranian economy and that's going to facilitate as you said perhaps you know it's going to generate
00:36:57.760instability in the regime. It's going to lengthen the time that Iran needs to rebuild. And it's
00:37:04.060going to inflict more pain on the Iranian government as well. So the diplomatic track
00:37:11.120is moving. The military track is continuing. And now President Trump has said we're broadening
00:37:16.800on the economic target set. You're right. The Iranians are certainly, again, a group of them
00:37:25.580that are going to see this through the bitter end, and it's a question of whether this pain,
00:37:29.780right, this is the application of pain, after all, to coerce Iran to come around our way of
00:37:36.220seeing things, whether that's going to be sufficient or not. We should expect that Iran
00:37:42.580is still capable of complex military operations and surprise. So I go back to the Diego Garcia
00:37:51.080attack with the IRBMs, intermediate range ballistic missiles, we should expect that
00:37:59.540the Iranians are going to have some tricks up their sleeve and they're not anticipating
00:38:08.780that, whether that's in the Gulf or elsewhere, Steve, I think is important to bear in mind.
00:38:15.720have have have strategic bombing look you take three separate time frames japan and world war
00:38:23.120ii vietnam in the vietnam war in the 60s early 70s and the persians today um did we understand
00:38:31.720their cultures well enough because look in japan i mean we firebombed uh tokyo we firebombed
00:38:40.980virtually every industrial city in uh in in um in in japan mainland japan we were getting ready for
00:38:49.420a four million man invasion uh and we were looking at a million casualties it'd be before and the
00:38:56.680people didn't in in the military i don't think lame even knew about or wasn't very familiar with
00:39:01.700the atomic weapon we dropped two atomic remember we had to drop two atomic weapons on them the first
00:39:06.500one didn't get their attention enough my point is that the strategic bombing in 1944 and 45
00:39:12.520didn't break the japanese vietnam vietnam i i was reading the other day i think that was something
00:39:19.240i don't think i got this number wrong it was five million sorties or something over the entire
00:39:24.540length of the war right and they still fought on to the end the persians here it doesn't seem like
00:39:31.700And here's the thing. I'm not saying they are winning, but you can tell their belief is that they're winning.
00:39:38.540Is this strategic bombing, which we will go to on not directly military targets, but the infrastructure, you know, the power grids, the oil, the things that provide the wherewithal for their military complex.
00:39:52.540So it's not a it's certainly not a war crime. That's ridiculous. But do you think that brings them?
00:39:58.800Do you think that gets their attention, or are these folks in this asymmetric war they're fighting just going to hunker down more?
00:40:06.080Yeah, I think that at this stage, Iran does have a breaking point as Japan had a breaking point, as the North Vietnamese had a breaking point.
00:40:16.320And when we think about those campaigns, we recognize, of course, their joint campaigns.
00:40:20.700It was the Navy blockade. The submarines had cut Japan off, the mining of Japanese ports.
00:40:27.800And then, of course, between really March and July of 1945, Curtis LeMay had run out of Japanese cities to destroy.
00:40:36.540He was so effective at firebombing them.
00:40:39.500They put Japan in a position where the atomic bombs provided a shock, right, an external shock that gave the group within the Japanese government that wanted to surrender the excuse to surrender.
00:40:54.300and they were obviously able to get the emperor on board despite resistance in the Japanese
00:40:59.160military. In Vietnam in 72, we want to remember that Operation Freedom Train and Linebacker 1
00:41:06.280and then Linebacker 2 broke, Linebacker 2 in particular, broke the North Vietnamese, right?
00:41:14.000They had run out of SAMs. We were reaching air superiority. We had mined their harbors. We had
00:41:20.320destroyed the rail lines and the roads coming in from China, which meant that they couldn't
00:41:26.220resupply their surface-to-air missiles. So they were in a position of great vulnerability.
00:41:32.960So these joint operations can be extremely effective at bringing the Iranians to the
00:41:41.240point where they're going to concede, right? Whether that's going to be limited concessions
00:41:45.820or total concessions of course it's going to be a matter for diplomacy but there are going to be
00:41:52.120just a japanese government hang on but hang on but hang on that's my point it took it took two
00:41:58.120two atomic weapons two atomic weapons to get uh hirohito against the middle and by the way the
00:42:04.920military junta the military guys didn't want to surrender after two they're ready to say drop them
00:42:08.940we don't care we don't care how many civilians you kill we'll we'll kill the americans americans
00:42:13.360will never take us over because we'll defeat them on the landing uh the vietnamese we might
00:42:18.500have broken their back but they fought on in in in the august the helicopters on the roof were the
00:42:25.740americans taking the south vietnamese out not not the vietcong or the north vietnamese so starting
00:42:31.880tomorrow night president trump has been pretty adamant he's saying hey if i start at eight o'clock
00:42:36.520with the target sets we got by midnight they're finished your response to that well my
00:42:43.300We want to keep in mind, of course, what the military won in North Vietnam with those campaigns, again, joint campaigns, the Navy, Army, Air Force working together, the Marines, Henry Kissinger gave away in the accord, right?
00:42:59.620He wanted out of Vietnam and put the North Vietnamese in a position where they were going to be able to conquer South Vietnam two years later.
00:43:11.040By March 73, of course, in April 75, North Vietnam conquers South Vietnam.
00:43:16.760So the military can win conflicts, but the civilians can give it away.
00:43:21.680Right. The diplomats can give it away.
00:45:09.760here's your host steven k man yeah i think it's gonna take something pretty dramatic
00:45:17.260by the iranians to get president trump's attention on this otherwise i think unless they're unless
00:45:23.500they stop playing games and deal directly i just i see tomorrow night being uh president trump gave
00:45:30.760him 11 days and hey you didn't we didn't get anything put together here we go uh dr thayer
00:45:35.560you're gonna be with me again tomorrow morning in the afternoon also in the run-up to this
00:45:39.540Where do people go to get your content, sir?
00:45:43.600Steve, people can reach me at BradThardX and BradleyThardGetter and on truth.
00:45:49.000So I think I'm very pleased to talk through this as we really look at the consequences of this war, how it's going to terminate, and to recognize that as we go into that economic target set, the infrastructure economic targets, it's going to take Iran years to rebuild from this.
00:46:09.380conceivably. And it's not going to be a threat to regional hegemony. If you recall, President
00:46:15.500Trump mentioned that near the outset of the war, where he talked about one of our aims here was
00:46:21.900to ensure that Iran does not stand any chance of being a regional hegemon. Going after that
00:46:28.780economic target set is really going to damage the Iranian economy, clearly. Yeah. And coupled
00:46:35.420with the destruction the defending decline they will not be yes hegemon regionally or otherwise
00:46:40.600for quite a while uh dr thayer we'll see you tomorrow thank you for your time and attention
00:46:45.060on this matter as the president says uh joe you're going to hold over until the next hour but i got
00:46:50.000to ask you you've done a magnificent job humans first all these different groups we're working
00:46:54.080with to really you know we stop the uh ai amnesty the first time and the big beautiful bill stop it
00:47:01.700The second time in the NDAA, the must-pass NDA, they come up with a framework.
00:47:08.140The framework's kind of shattered right now.
00:47:11.060David Sachs has been relieved for cause.
00:47:31.700harder than you think, bigger than you think, and you better embrace us and you better embrace us
00:47:37.260today. Joe Allen. Well, Steve, the fight is never ending. And today, OpenAI released their
00:47:45.940Industrial Policy for the Intelligence Age. They subtitle it Ideas to Keep People First.
00:47:54.060Basically, it's a very vague set of policy recommendations, everything from how to tax companies that are automating, redistribute the wealth, turn the entirety of the American society into cyborgs and mitigate the risks that they say are imminent of cyber attacks that are enabled by AI systems such as ChatGBT, bioweapon production,
00:48:20.400which would be enabled by systems like ChatGPT, and of course, loss of control. What happens if
00:48:27.180the AI that they create goes rogue? They suggest using government agencies to audit all AI companies,
00:48:35.940but I thought it interesting. They focus in on Casey, the Center for AI Standards and Innovation,
00:48:42.240which is really very much kind of a nascent organization still in the Trump administration.
00:48:48.620It's very unclear exactly where it goes, but you can see that OpenAI is trying to position themselves as a partner with the Trump administration.
00:48:59.420And also the language about wealth redistribution makes me think that they are preparing perhaps for a change of guard after November.
00:49:09.480And it's much more, I think, Democrat friendly than Republican or Trump friendly.
00:49:14.920It's worth noting, though, Steve, that the same day, actually hours before they released this and the Mike Allen interview on Axios with Sam Altman, Ronan Farrow at The New Yorker released a very long, in-depth article painting Sam Altman in the worst possible light through the eyes of his peers, his former executives at OpenAI.
00:49:36.200It's entitled, Sam Altman may control our future.
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