Bannon's War Room - Episode 5280： Countdown Till Judgement Day Cont.

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.640 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.400 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.600 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.640 Tuesday, 7 April, year of rural or 2026 year.

00:00:55.200 Give me a heads up. When Rickards calls in, I got Patrick K.

00:00:57.420 O'Donnell, Captain Fennell. More people are going to join us. President of the United States has

00:01:01.540 told us that this is one of the most important days in the complex, long and complex history

00:01:07.020 of the world. Patrick K. O'Donnell, you're our top combat historian. Do you agree with that

00:01:12.220 assessment? I do. I think it is definitely one of the top five, you know, crucial, consequential

00:01:20.100 decisions in American history that a president is making. I mean, this is a president, all the

00:01:25.760 presidents in his past they kicked the can down the road on iran and and hoped that it would

00:01:31.400 somehow go away president trump has taken you know the bold courage to to to go after these

00:01:38.880 after the regime and you know now it's a question of how do you how do you take it down

00:01:44.280 what how do you in in your understanding of commander-in-chiefs making decisions

00:01:56.660 on strategy and the imp and using the military instrument to effectuate that strategy or

00:02:04.200 implement it where do you put this decision in your top 10 where does this go and what would

00:02:11.380 be around it what other ones could you point the audience to to say hey understand the gravity of

00:02:16.700 the moment and this is you know there's a lot of people saying hey their mega voice is saying no

00:02:20.420 i think tucker wall street journal is reporting he said don't follow the orders look there'll be

00:02:27.420 plenty of time to debate how we got here um right now we have you know probably a hundred thousand

00:02:35.660 or more young men and women in harm's way uh we we've got to uh we've got to win this thing

00:02:41.920 now your definition of victory mine is probably quite different than captain finnell's and patrick

00:02:46.720 k o'donnell uh but uh you know we're in it now so where do you put it as on these on the on the

00:02:54.400 your top 10 or on the spectrum as you look at major decisions that commander and chiefs have had

00:03:01.020 in using the military instrument? I would say it's in the top five, Steve. And I mean,

00:03:06.720 let's look at some of the great presidential, crucial decisions. One of the top decisions I

00:03:12.720 would say would be the Emancipation Proclamation. The Civil War is, you know, it's 1862. And it's

00:03:20.360 about, you know, the original framing was about saving the union. And it changes the moral

00:03:26.480 um high ground is is changed to about you know free enslaved people it's more complex than that

00:03:34.220 but it changes the entire but hang on hang on hang on full stop full stop i love you like a brother

00:03:39.900 let's be brutally frank mcclellan and the democratic generals were trying to cut a deal

00:03:47.040 with the south that's why they never dropped the hammer and i'm not saying they were better than

00:03:50.800 the confederacy military hang on but he was he was trying to raise it up to part of it was to stop

00:03:56.480 a potential military coup i actually say it was more than a potential military coup that there

00:04:01.160 was talk of treason you know bruce canton's one of his great volumes the the first chapter is

00:04:08.380 the talk of treason after the peninsula campaign so the the shifting of um of the moral courage

00:04:16.140 of lincoln because remember he didn't free a slave in an area that he controlled that he could

00:04:22.540 we need the slaves that is very true that's where there's a lot of nuance because but hang on this

00:04:28.380 is a guy who's losing this is a guy's losing you're trying to get moral authority to take

00:04:33.180 the high ground to get more people to rally to his side correct and to cut off any to cut off

00:04:38.300 any potential allies coming in for the confederacy correct but it changes the entire course of

00:04:44.760 history because it changes race relations in the united states it changes the dynamic

00:04:49.840 of the war completely um and it's it's a major shift now the you know i get into it and then

00:04:58.100 vanquished i mean there's a lot of but hang on but hang on but hang on but but hang on it's like

00:05:04.920 hang on that's why but this was your this was this was your hang on i know i'd love it too but

00:05:11.140 this is my point about you're trying you're you and the other supporters of this are trying to

00:05:17.420 make a moral case right to take the moral high ground in this moral case um make that for me

00:05:25.680 again make that for me again the fact that they get a nuclear weapon let me have it and they

00:05:29.820 threaten us i mean they're threatening the world economy right now with the straits of hormuz and

00:05:34.520 the red sea um this can't go on this is irreconcilable steve they have to go and it's

00:05:43.180 one way or another. And the key to it is the Iranian, the center of gravity is the Iranian 1.00

00:05:50.160 people. I mean, the whole reason, one of the reasons why we are here is because they rose up 1.00

00:05:55.440 two months ago. And that problem for that regime has not gone away. It's going to get way worse.

00:06:03.500 They killed 45,000, and it's going to get way worse for those people. And they're going to,

00:06:10.020 It's going to foment more – an even greater uprising.

00:06:13.940 The question is we need to support that in various ways.

00:06:17.740 I mean this is something – we have 250 years of irregular warfare experience.

00:06:23.300 We pioneered it.

00:06:24.700 You fight irregular wars with irregulars.

00:06:28.740 And the number one thing – I mean we go back to the Civil War.

00:06:32.720 I wrote an article for Breitbart a month ago called the Iranian Anaconda Plan.

00:06:37.420 you know it wasn't popular at the first battle of asses everybody thought they were going to

00:06:42.680 run to richmond and the war would be over now you got to strangle in that case the south and

00:06:48.940 you have to strangle the iranians oil in their revenues go after it every way possible and it

00:06:54.900 will collapse yeah as hang hang on one second i want you to stick around i want to get jim

00:07:00.460 workers up here i i will say that the enemy inside our gate is a hundred times a bigger problem for

00:07:09.720 this country than what was happening in tehran a hundred times i don't buy the underpinnings that

00:07:15.060 your argument which i hear on fox and from the boomers every night i don't buy any of it the

00:07:22.420 problem is here in this country and with the chinese communist party that is very far down 0.89

00:07:27.080 the road on unrestricted warfare of taking us down. But hang on, because I'd love the fact, 1.00

00:07:34.400 look, a not insignificant part of the war room posse is 100% back to you, Patrick K. O'Donnell.

00:07:41.020 They're loving it. So just stick right there. Jim Rickards, we got you by phone. Oh, is Rickards

00:07:46.280 up? We actually get Rickards up? Jim Rickards. President Trump has tweeted out, it's one of the

00:07:51.040 most important days in the history of the world. The Iranians have come back and said, hey, 1.00

00:07:56.060 All this talk about taking our civilization down, we're cutting off any discussion. 1.00

00:08:00.300 In fact, we're going to raise it up and we're going to take down the Red Sea.

00:08:05.020 You're our master strategist here.

00:08:08.180 Where are we in this thing?

00:08:10.760 We're in a very, very bad place, Steve.

00:08:13.560 So let's talk about Trump saying he's going to take down the civilization tonight.

00:08:18.200 Iran might be second only to China in terms of the longevity and continuity of civilization.

00:08:25.480 Depending on whether you want to go back to Cyrus the Great or the rise of Islam, it's either 2,500 years old or, you know, well over 1,000 years old.

00:08:36.300 But it's one of the longest continuous civilizations in world history.

00:08:40.840 And the thing about a civilization like that, they're actually not fragile or brittle at all.

00:08:45.780 They're actually very robust because they've been through many, many crises, et cetera.

00:08:50.000 Your prior guest, you know, obviously very, very knowledgeable.

00:08:53.300 Well, he's still talking about this uprising.

00:08:55.500 There's not going to be an uprising.

00:08:57.220 There's not going to be regime change.

00:08:59.100 We're past that.

00:08:59.960 We've proven that that's not going to happen.

00:09:02.080 A good estimate would have been it was not going to happen before the war started, but

00:09:06.240 it's clearly not going to happen now.

00:09:07.960 You know as well as I do that war tends to unify the population, whatever internal divisions

00:09:13.100 they may have.

00:09:14.140 Now, can you blow up a lot of infrastructure?

00:09:16.000 Yes.

00:09:16.700 Now, here's where it gets interesting, to your point, Steve, about the internal enemies.

00:09:20.380 I'll take this. I believe Senator Kelly from Arizona, he was one of five or six, you know, basically veterans who said who warned the U.S. military do not obey illegal orders.

00:09:32.900 And then there may be repercussions from that. But what are we hearing now that taking out civilian infrastructure, power plants, desalinization, railroads, et cetera, these are war crimes.

00:09:42.760 Now, maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but the fact that we're hearing about war crimes,

00:09:47.880 Iran's saying we're going to circle them with civilians, so if you blow up the planet,

00:09:52.100 you're going to kill all these civilians. 0.98

00:09:53.920 Now, they don't mind being martyrs.

00:09:55.560 That's one of the things the White House does not understand about political, about

00:09:59.000 Islam in general.

00:10:00.540 They think it's the will of Allah. 1.00

00:10:02.200 They go straight to heaven.

00:10:03.500 They don't mind, they're powerless.

00:10:05.240 They don't mind being martyrs.

00:10:06.960 So now you're going to blow up civilian infrastructure, which might be a war crime.

00:10:10.540 You're going to kill civilians, otherwise innocent, who probably definitely were a crime.

00:10:16.260 And you've got United States senators warning the military not to follow illegal orders.

00:10:20.660 This is a setup.

00:10:21.600 Trump's walking right into it.

00:10:23.440 And it's one of many problems with this where I think we're using a fairly conventional military doctrine and we don't understand we're up against a theological enemy.

00:10:31.480 um patrick k o'donnell and jim finnell have made pretty strong cases that uh the regime has been

00:10:44.420 shattered that uh this is now going into part two you know looking at as a system for a state

00:10:50.920 collapse um do you believe that's where we are you just said hey the regime hasn't collapsed

00:10:57.080 and they're fighting asymmetrically this is one of the most significant decisions or pieces of

00:11:03.820 intelligence and this is why it all comes down to one person has to make this decision this is why

00:11:11.040 our system is structured like this the commander-in-chief article two makes it down to the

00:11:17.360 office of the president one person to make this decision how do you weigh and measure uh this

00:11:23.660 decision he'll make of whether this regime is is is is already done right and basically shattered

00:11:30.560 and so now i'm going to go to the next phase of state collapse or the counter argument that hey

00:11:36.180 these guys think they're winning they've they've they've they've uh shut down her moves they got

00:11:41.920 west texas intermediate as a piece of evidence at 117 dollars a barrel and they just doubled down

00:11:47.200 and said hey look you get tough with us tonight we're going to shut down the red sea sir well

00:11:53.400 Well, you're right, Steve. They think they're winning. But as a pro-American analyst, I would say they're probably right.

00:11:59.540 They probably are winning by their terms, by their definition, which is, are we still here? Are we still functional? 0.55

00:12:05.720 You know, you've heard about the Mosaic defense. They haven't actually had to use it that much.

00:12:09.260 But if you're a brigade commander and you get cut off from central authority, you have you have authority to launch weapons on your own.

00:12:17.200 Have we done physical destruction? Absolutely. The physical kinetic performance in the military

00:12:23.640 has been brilliant, but it doesn't matter because the regime is still standing.

00:12:28.440 And then once you kill, we killed all the leaders, 30 or 40 on day one. Then we killed all the

00:12:34.160 replacements. So another 30 or 40, we're talking about top theologians, generals, political

00:12:39.100 officials, et cetera. We can keep killing them, I suppose, with good intelligence, but they keep

00:12:43.940 replacing them. There's always somebody standing in line, so to speak. And again, this kind of war

00:12:50.440 just makes them stronger politically, culturally, from a civilizational perspective. So you're not

00:12:56.680 going to see regime change. Now, can we keep blowing things up? Yes. But they're sucking

00:13:03.000 Trump in. We're getting closer to committing what are arguably war crimes. Now, the United States

00:13:08.480 This is not a party to the international criminal court, so we're not going to be hauled in front of any Nuremberg-style trial.

00:13:16.060 But I dare say it might have planted some doubts in the minds of some military officers, which is very detrimental.

00:13:22.140 But this is nothing compared to what we did over Nazi Germany and what we did in the firebombing of Tokyo before the nuclear weapons,

00:13:33.460 because the electricity and the power generation and all those are all inextricably linked to the 0.53

00:13:40.260 war machine of the theocrats right this this talk of war crimes is is uh is a desperate attempt

00:13:46.600 to try to uh to try to put doubt in actually military commanders minds and young sailors

00:13:53.820 and young soldiers which which american history and the application of american power

00:13:59.660 goes against, doesn't it?

00:14:02.860 Well, I mean, you're right about World War II.

00:14:05.040 Look at what we did in Japan.

00:14:06.660 The firebombing of cities in Japan

00:14:08.740 actually caused more damage and casualties

00:14:10.600 than the atomic bombs.

00:14:12.160 The atomic bombs were the approximate cause

00:14:14.440 of ending the war.

00:14:15.520 But what we did in Tokyo

00:14:16.800 and quite a few other cities,

00:14:19.060 killing hundreds of thousands of civilians

00:14:21.540 who were burnt to death

00:14:23.320 because they all had wooden structures

00:14:24.440 and we were dropping napalm, basically, on them.

00:14:27.280 But that was before the post-war war crimes trials, the Yamashita precedent, the Nuremberg trials, and the latest changes in the Geneva Convention. 0.50

00:14:39.160 I'm not saying it's our war crimes.

00:14:41.380 No, hang on one second. Just hang on one second. I want to hold you through the break.

00:14:45.260 I got Jim Rickards. We have Patrick K. O'Donnell. We got Captain Fennell.

00:14:49.600 We're going to be joined by others. I'm going to get their voices back in here.

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00:16:27.740 today at the texas school board we had to rally help rally folks and remember you don't have

00:16:37.660 better patriots in texas to get people to come and testify against care and the muslim brotherhood

00:16:43.820 and care in these terrorist organizations that are getting muslims down there to say yeah we 0.77

00:16:47.700 should write the history books you know the alamos based upon uh islamic design and take out all the 0.90

00:16:55.060 presidents and we're going to put a big huge infusion of how important islam has been in the 0.72

00:17:00.340 history of this uh of this country right uh at the same time you've got uh this um you know we

00:17:08.720 have a war we have a budget given to us that's going to have trains of dollars of deficits 200

00:17:14.420 billion dollar for this war right here and of course our great allies uae has not to my knowledge

00:17:23.020 they've talked about it and people put pressure on them but have not shut down the pirate cove of

00:17:28.180 dubai uh to seize the assets like we seize the assets of the russians in the ukraine war to seize

00:17:34.320 the assets of the uh of the mullahs and shut them down financially and of course it's in the

00:17:41.180 straits of hormuz they're charging a two million dollar fee per ship the kind of the pirates that

00:17:46.700 are down there on that southern coast who are not totally persian i think there's a lot of

00:17:50.600 bedouins down there done this for centuries are charging two million per ship and guess what

00:17:56.500 they're charging it in chinese currency to break the petrodollar because they look at china as

00:18:01.880 their ally and captain finnell continues remind me you got to keep the main thing the main thing

00:18:06.520 the main thing is that we have a enemy that is every bit as powerful as us that we fund we give 0.85

00:18:11.980 technology that's the chinese chemist party that's all in this nation totally infiltrated 0.76

00:18:15.920 now we have a situation from uh from from uh dearborn michigan to minneapolis to new york city

00:18:24.640 where they control the financial capital of the world with Mandami, a radical Marxist jihadist.

00:18:30.900 And in the great state of Texas, they are all over, folks. They're all over it. And we're fighting

00:18:36.460 back. But they think they're winning down in Texas. Understand our enemy's mindset. They think

00:18:42.720 they're winning here in the United States because inside the wire, we have 25 million illegal alien

00:18:48.960 evaders. And the political people in the White House are telling the president, we can never say

00:18:53.860 and use the word mass deportation again our enemies think that they're winning here inside

00:19:01.060 the wire inside the united states of america and what are we doing we are in the middle east which

00:19:05.560 is a sideshow to a sideshow and we're there and about to go tonight to one of the most important

00:19:12.420 moments in world history according to our commander-in-chief and if we rain hell down

00:19:17.740 these people hell we can rain there is absolutely no doubt about that in the steely resolve and i

00:19:23.480 think you saw this over the weekend uh where CENTCOM and the military pulled off an incredible

00:19:31.200 operation of just nothing but bravery and valor on part of both the pilots themselves and the

00:19:37.460 rescue teams and the pilots that came in the special forces and the huge firefight

00:19:41.120 it shows you what these young men and women can do the steely resolve that's the best of the best

00:19:47.540 and of course in the best of the best when we have these budgets think about it for a second

00:19:52.720 you still have to go to outside charity to build homes for the people that don't have limbs how

00:19:58.780 many veterans we have in the streets of this country how much ptsd have we not addressed

00:20:03.660 we're losing the war inside this country if we don't face this it's going to be over uh

00:20:10.460 jim rickerts thank you for taking time away i know you were recording other things for strategic

00:20:15.360 Intelligence Night. Everybody should go to your website right now to get it. Tell me about

00:20:23.980 Strategic Intelligence for a second before you sum up your strategic thoughts on this

00:20:28.860 of the most important days. Yeah, thanks, Steve. We have a landing page,

00:20:33.600 RickardsWarRoom.com, RickardsWarRoom.com. You can go there, subscribe to our flagship

00:20:38.520 newsletter, Strategic Intelligence, where we talk about exactly what we're talking about on your

00:20:42.600 show, what's coming next, what's happening, kind of looking over the ridgeline. But getting back

00:20:47.380 to Iran, Steve, I'm not saying what Trump's proposing is definitely a war crime. That's a 0.99

00:20:53.260 big subject. I'm saying the fact that we're having the debate shows the pernicious influence of what

00:20:58.500 Senator Kelly did and the others who were raising the issue of following illegal orders. The

00:21:03.280 Iranians picked up on it. So there we go. Second thing, talk about closing the streets of a moose,

00:21:09.040 starving a random revenue okay are you ready to turn the lights out in south korea because that's

00:21:13.860 what you're talking about see and we i said this on on the show last week uh the reason the uh the

00:21:19.860 industry has not shut down the reason the lights are not up because there was a lot of oil and

00:21:23.480 natural gas underway outside the persian gulf when the war started and it took days or weeks to get

00:21:29.720 there and still be unloaded now right about now is when the pipeline drives i say pipeline there's

00:21:35.280 nothing in transit now because the straits have been closed for over a month. This is where the

00:21:39.940 crunch comes in. And don't think for one second the stock markets are efficient. That's one of

00:21:44.220 these egghead myths. Stock markets are very inefficient. They'll wake up one day and all

00:21:48.680 of a sudden adjust in an incredible way. And they have not, stock markets and bond markets have not

00:21:55.180 priced in what we're talking about, which is escalation of the war, which seems to be Trump's

00:21:59.840 only option. The Straits of Hormuz remaining closed. And you're always seeing it not just

00:22:05.260 in gas at the pump. Airline tickets have gone up 50 percent in a very short period of time.

00:22:09.800 There's no jet fuel. We're going to run out of oil and natural gas. Refineries are going to shut

00:22:14.000 down, et cetera. That's what we're talking about, a major, not just a recession. You know, this

00:22:18.580 happened. This is almost unprecedented. Probably had to go back to the Great Depression for

00:22:23.720 something like it. So markets are going to adjust for that. We've got the war crimes debate going

00:22:28.300 on. I think the U.S., you know, as you said, we're in this thing. We need to be a lot smarter. And

00:22:35.480 this is what I did for 10 years at the CIA. I wasn't jumping out of helicopters. I was doing

00:22:41.420 asymmetric warfare, financial warfare, cyber warfare, various ways of shutting down economies

00:22:47.520 without, you know, necessarily dropping more bombs. I don't think we're really being that smart

00:22:51.560 about this. Jim Rickards, RickardsWarRoom.com. You get access to strategic intelligence that

00:23:00.760 is based upon predictive analytics. He also throws in a free book on artificial intelligence

00:23:08.300 and fiat currency, which will keep you up at night. Rickards, thank you so much for

00:23:12.460 taking time away today. Look forward to talking to you in the next couple of days. Great.

00:23:16.060 Thanks. Thank you. So, Patrick, we got Antietam and in the Emancipation Proclamation is one.

00:23:26.080 Give me another give me another example.

00:23:29.200 Another example would be the Whiskey Rebellion, which is which occurs in Washington's first term,

00:23:35.600 where people rise up against a, you know, attacks on whiskey.

00:23:40.540 Very unpopular. You know, Washington diplomatically tries to deal with it.

00:23:45.420 uh you know works away at it but eventually he's the first commander-in-chief to lead troops in

00:23:50.740 battle personally and and crushes it and that sets a precedent for the uh the united states and

00:23:57.940 you know the new republic which is just you know on its early legs another example um you know it's

00:24:04.400 kind of a mundane one but the louisiana purchase wasn't necessarily believe it or not popular at

00:24:09.760 the time and washington jefferson has to make a a huge and monumental decision to buy you know

00:24:16.020 go into debt and buy but hang on hang on hang on i want to i want to i want to i want to stick to

00:24:21.820 i want to stick to commander-in-chief i want to stick to as role as commander-in-chief that's his

00:24:27.340 role as president to make and you're right horribly unpopular how to be explained how are

00:24:31.760 they going to finance it it kind of worked out for us i think it kind of worked out for us

00:24:36.340 served it right of course a lot of people said a lot of people just said take it napoleon can't

00:24:41.000 defend it just take it but what about uh because i think antietam was a good example because it

00:24:46.500 shows you where you're trying to get the moral authority and you know there's a lot of questions

00:24:50.720 about this right now you're you you have a very cogent argument why we have the moral authority

00:24:56.320 to do this i think that's one of the things that this debate and debate will only intensify

00:25:00.880 particularly as this is protracted and it gets bloodier right so but as a commander this is not

00:25:08.500 a this is not in this and this is why this constitution this is why the the cons

00:25:13.900 the constitution is written like it's written to put that power in an office with one person

00:25:20.280 there's no war council there's no you know take a vote the the uh there's no take a vote here it

00:25:27.500 all comes down to one person. So give me another example of where you think this has been in that

00:25:34.340 top five. Did you say this is in the top five? President Truman's decision to drop the atomic

00:25:39.980 bomb and end the war. That's a tremendous responsibility. He's opening up the possibility

00:25:48.800 of destroying civilization itself, but also it's the opportunity to destroy Japan, 0.91

00:25:56.220 which we know would have fought to the death pretty much that regime was was absolutely 0.85

00:26:00.720 convinced they would fought they would have fought to death you know hundreds of thousands would

00:26:04.800 have died um americans would have died as well as uh japanese citizens had that decision not been

00:26:11.020 made what do you uh i tell you what let's go um let's get people to your writings i think it's

00:26:19.120 very important particularly you're working on another big book they'll come out a year or so

00:26:22.420 your last book another bestseller it'll be out in november people go and i and i will talk about

00:26:27.740 i want people to focus on the revolutionary war i want people to focus oh yeah i want people to

00:26:34.140 focus on also your book when you were in bed as a combat historian with a marine rifle platoon

00:26:39.900 so where do people go to get all your current writings everything you put up on breitbart

00:26:43.680 and your books it's at combat historian which is on x as well as getter and my website is

00:26:51.780 patrickkodonald.com i've got 14 books now um you know i'm very grateful to the audience uh at the

00:27:00.900 war room uh just there's just tremendous readers out there um of american history and um you know

00:27:08.880 it's always a a privilege to be on the show well it's an always an honor to have you on here

00:27:16.260 particularly some of your writings recently in breitbart been very intriguing patrick k o'donnell

00:27:20.780 Yeah, the latest one is called – the latest on Breitbart is the Iranian anaconda plan.

00:27:26.800 I wrote it a month ago about strangling the source of revenue for the regime, which will collapse it eventually. 0.69

00:27:33.340 It might not happen in a month.

00:27:34.940 It may not happen even in a year, but it'll go down if their revenue is taken away.

00:27:38.800 And then we also have to go after them hammering tongs financially.

00:27:43.980 Thank you, brother.

00:27:44.940 Appreciate you.

00:27:45.620 and patrick k o'donnell teed it up perfectly brought in the whiskey rebellion

00:27:51.080 get cameron kinsey in here to talk about taxes the uh some of the veterans i think it was in

00:27:59.620 pennsylvania they weren't real happy about alexander hamilton's plan to come in and tax

00:28:05.340 them americans always had this thing about taxes only our revolution started because of it cameron

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00:29:51.960 they they had a problem at the beginning of the country where we had too much debt and not enough

00:29:59.380 revenue kind of a problem we got today revolutionary war debt and alexander hamilton

00:30:05.300 came up with a plan he says you know what we got started putting some excise taxes on people and

00:30:09.520 let's maybe one of the ones we do it are these i don't want to call them moonshiners but guys

00:30:14.220 making this great whiskey out in western pennsylvania and we'll put excess tax on that

00:30:19.200 and these folks didn't take that lightly they said i don't think so that led to this whiskey

00:30:25.340 rebellion which was really standing up to say no we're not going to do it little known fact in

00:30:30.440 history uh general washington at that time actually came back and and was going to lead

00:30:36.460 the force i think it was 12 or 13 000 man army bigger than a lot of the times he had his own

00:30:42.880 continental army fighting the revolution and uh and in hamilton i think was made a major general

00:30:48.400 lieutenant general and they started to lead this force of course the the rebellion collapsed

00:30:52.940 and everyone lived happily ever after in this country um although there's always been this

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00:36:27.400 Cameron Kinsey from the first term.

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00:36:34.740 Captain Fennell, your assessment.

00:36:37.400 We're getting ready to wrap up the morning show.

00:36:39.460 Hopefully have you back on tomorrow after whatever transpires tonight.

00:36:43.780 But right now, it's a countdown to 8 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time.

00:36:48.000 Your thoughts?

00:36:48.420 Well, Steve, I think the president is, you know, tried every which way to extend the deadline as you opened in the show and showed the different extensions.

00:37:03.580 He's also applied pressure, and even today with this combined strikes on Karg Island and the bridges and whatnot, to get across to whoever is running Iran at this point, that it's better to negotiate than to go to this next phase. 0.56

00:37:21.400 I hope and pray that they make a deal and they bend a knee. 0.58

00:37:25.660 But if they don't, then you're going to see those second and third rings of infrastructure and the oil and the production, those rings that were in John Warden's systematic analysis of how to take down your adversary, those are going to be destroyed.

00:37:45.000 They won't be war crimes.

00:37:46.340 We're not going to strike civilians. 0.99

00:37:48.280 The Iranians are saying they're going to put civilians around, but we'll watch out for that. 1.00

00:37:51.840 But we're going to shut down their ability to have electricity, their ability to transport goods, military equipment, and things of that nature. 0.99

00:38:01.340 And if they continue, he'll take out Karg Island and shut off their ability to get any oil revenue from oil sales.

00:38:10.900 That's an easy thing to do.

00:38:12.960 could be done in a very short order by attacking pumping stations on the mainland of Iran or on

00:38:19.740 Karg Island, and Karg Island would become useless. So there's lots of ways to do this. The Strait of

00:38:25.160 Hormuz and these other places will come open, as the president said. But that's the next phase,

00:38:31.420 and it will get very intense. And we just have to say, as Admiral Cooper said many weeks ago,

00:38:37.220 we have to steady our resolve. We're on a plan. The plan is working. And the most important thing,

00:38:43.540 I think, for this young generation of us boomers here that are talking about this,

00:38:47.480 but for the new generation of young people, pay attention how the president went and tried to

00:38:52.960 save the life of every American, and he's not. As we said, I was last on on Palm Sunday,

00:38:58.680 and we were talking about invasions of Iran with Marines. And I called it a non sequitur.

00:39:04.960 I still call it a non sequitur. We are not going to put Americans' lives at risk for this in the

00:39:11.300 ways that we have done in the past. The president wants to finish this off, end this regime's

00:39:16.860 capacity to inflict harm on the region, and make us go back to having a kind of a peaceful Middle

00:39:24.140 Eastern area, which allows us then to start paying attention to the main thing, the People's Republic

00:39:29.560 of china and we're going to do that um the regime's mentality because they just told the

00:39:38.400 new york times that they cut off any diplomatic uh discussions that they're out and you know

00:39:44.780 essentially bring it when you have that mindset how do you see this thing developing over the

00:39:52.500 next couple of days well it's going to get ugly for iran it's the people of iran the civilians

00:39:59.340 that don't back the Mullahs and don't back the IRGC. They need to hunker down and get into

00:40:05.860 bunkers and hide and protect themselves. And then we on the West and our allies outside of Iran have 0.77

00:40:12.940 to be prepared for a lot of ballistic missiles and drones that are going to come at us. And I

00:40:18.060 know that we've had some people on the show that have said that we're going to run out of defensive

00:40:21.840 systems here. They said it two or three weeks ago, and they said it would have only a week left. I

00:40:26.980 think that's been exaggerated. And I think we'll deal with the remaining missiles that come. And

00:40:33.400 then we will ratchet it up some more because there's more that can be done to the Iranian

00:40:38.340 regime. And these are just the next phases of that. And they need to they need to feel this

00:40:44.240 pain. Unfortunately, it's too bad. Captain, thank you so much. Where do we get your writings when

00:40:51.560 you put them up on on what Naval Institute press and American Greatness? Where can people get your

00:40:56.460 writings yeah those are the two areas where i write the most i've got something coming up in

00:41:01.440 u.s naval institute the annual people's liberation army navy review comes out in may

00:41:06.820 and i occasionally write for american greatness as well

00:41:10.620 thank you sir i appreciate you

00:41:14.540 uh tage gill do i have tage tage uh you what will you've been i don't know

00:41:25.380 over a dozen deployments over into bad neighborhoods.

00:41:30.100 Your thoughts as the president's laid out today

00:41:32.740 that it's one of the most important days

00:41:35.040 in world history, sir.

00:41:38.940 Yeah, it seems like these red lines

00:41:40.800 keep getting pushed out every couple of weeks.

00:41:42.800 There's a new red line

00:41:43.660 and we keep escalating further into this conflict.

00:41:48.500 I think once we go past a certain point of no return,

00:41:51.640 there's no de-escalating.

00:41:53.320 We just got to finish them off. 0.98

00:41:54.700 And, you know, hopefully, hopefully the Iran regime will come to the table and we don't have to bomb all their power plants and desolonization plants and basically cripple the Iranian people. 0.95

00:42:08.800 But President Trump's on a mission. We'll see what he does.

00:42:17.680 What assessment? Give me your assessment of what got about a minute here.

00:42:21.220 will keep you through the break over the weekend just an incredible rescue but as i tell people

00:42:26.220 the military is trained for that they're going to do that um and they do it do it with a steely

00:42:31.900 resolve your observation since it was a lot of seal team six involved in that yeah they the

00:42:38.700 operation was it was incredible they went in there and they they got this uh american backseater out

00:42:43.980 he looks like this guy was a full board colonel he was he was riding the back seat with that 15s

00:42:48.900 There's some speculation that he may have been an air boss for a bigger mission.

00:42:52.360 We don't know.

00:42:53.100 That's all rumor.

00:42:54.260 But they put two MC-130 special operation birds on the ground in Iran and then rolled out little birds, launched them with SEAL Team 6 operators and recovered this full board colonel, brought them back.

00:43:10.040 And then apparently they had bad intelligence about the airfield.

00:43:14.540 It was wet and sandy and the plane sunk in.

00:43:16.960 so but at the end of the day they got they got they got our guy out that's the most important

00:43:21.700 thing but it was a huge loss of equipment you know we lost f-15 a-10 two mc-130s three little

00:43:28.860 birds and then reapers and we don't know if there's anything else that's all the stuff that's

00:43:33.620 in public so it was a very costly mission but it was worth it yeah tage hang on for one second

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00:50:11.440 thank you Steve

00:50:13.400 look forward to talking to you tonight and seeing you tomorrow

00:50:15.240 thank you brother

00:50:16.080 Mike Lindell you've been very close to the

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00:50:21.100 certain men

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00:50:25.260 president's got the weight of the world on his

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00:50:28.200 give me a minute on that you're getting into politics to run for 0.99

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00:50:35.160 by you talking to us about deals

00:50:37.220 that the war on posse are waiting for

00:50:39.740 Yeah. And, uh, you know, with our president, I reached out for, uh, you know, I told him he's

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00:51:19.980 don't know what the, what it's going to be, but I tell people just keep the faith. We're in the,

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Episode 5280： Countdown Till Judgement Day Cont.

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