Bannon's War Room - Episode 5283： Battling Back Against The Islamification Of Texas; No Confidence In The 10 Point Plan

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going

00:00:10.080 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.740 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to

00:00:20.820 do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:00:23.920 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:27.540 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.860 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.320 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.440 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:47.600 wednesday 8 april year of our lord 2026 okay um the concept of opportunity cost

00:01:00.160 why are we here why are we discussing this war in the middle east why the last 39 days

00:01:07.280 and i want to really thank the great analysts and observers we had because i think we've done

00:01:12.100 a as good a job as possibly could do of giving everybody the range of things that are out there

00:01:18.060 um to come to your own conclusion make sure you understand it about opportunity costs and let's

00:01:25.100 say this nuclear threat which i never thought was really much of a nuclear threat but let's assume

00:01:31.540 that even they had a close to a nuclear threat or a couple years away from making their bombs

00:01:36.140 ladies and gentlemen that is one one hundredth of the threat to this nation read the axios

00:01:42.100 freaking piece why do you think we got joe allen in here five years ago we understood this day was 0.72

00:01:48.400 coming this day not to talk about 10 points and what is iran saying and what's the united states

00:01:52.800 saying and what are we all doing because look we're all going to work through that we're all

00:01:57.400 going to work through that an existential threat to this country at this moment is the out of

00:02:04.980 control oligarchs overseeing ai and this is what i've been saying about the amnesty and the

00:02:11.800 framework and all yes the children are very important you got to get on top of that because

00:02:15.700 they're going to try to exploit that the thing about creative control and conservatives and

00:02:19.300 content provides that's all important the single most important issue is we have a weapon that is

00:02:26.740 a hundred times more lethal than nuclear weapons today in axios they admit that and they have no

00:02:32.600 control over it no control over it the the originators admit that and this is this whole

00:02:39.920 fight they've had a huge fight in the pentagon over the last couple of months about actually

00:02:43.860 well we can give this to you you can't that you know this is out of control this could destroy

00:02:48.560 humanity today not some issue about what could they launch a nuke on israel or they could do

00:02:55.300 this or send it to saudi arabia or god forbid send it to uae destruction humanity and because

00:03:02.300 an opportunity cost because as a country we are obsessed with it we are not dealing with the 0.66

00:03:07.640 problems in this nation the problems in this nation do not exist in the streets of tehran 0.74

00:03:13.580 are with the islamic theocracy running iran it's inside the wire here between the oligarchs and 0.61

00:03:24.060 the marxist jihadists running new york city and trying to take over the state of texas full stop 0.56

00:03:29.380 in the 25 million illegal aliens that are here and all this is going to do at the end of this 0.61

00:03:35.800 is make this nation more populist and more nationalistic trita parsi i want to thank you

00:03:42.700 for coming on here in the last couple weeks i know you got a lot of grief about this we got

00:03:46.880 grief about it but you have done because i've gone back to look at your tape you've done an

00:03:50.840 excellent job of giving us the perspective of of kind of the people across the table today but the

00:03:58.040 people that were you know and and not just the theocrats but other people other dissident voices

00:04:03.540 in there so here's the question i've got because i've read your stuff and all the stuff in the

00:04:07.320 european papers and i asked reagan reese who asked the best question at the pentagon briefing today

00:04:12.500 and as a white house correspondent for the daily caller as i've asked posobic and i've asked fatis

00:04:17.720 what exactly is the 10 points that are agreed to right now because i see what you're putting out

00:04:24.000 I see what the Iranians are putting out.

00:04:25.540 I see what's in the European papers.

00:04:27.940 And I saw President Trump's, I guess, the 90-second interview he had on Sky TV.

00:04:32.620 What is agreed to right now, sir?

00:04:36.360 We don't know if anything has been agreed on within those 10 points.

00:04:40.660 But rather what Trump has said is that the 10 points that the Iranians have put forward

00:04:45.280 will be the basis of the negotiations.

00:04:48.840 And so it's important to understand the United States has not agreed to those points.

00:04:53.180 but he has agreed to have those points to be the basis, the framework for the negotiations.

00:04:57.560 That in and of itself is a win for the Iranians because the 15 points that Trump had put forward

00:05:02.920 before was essentially the terms of Iran's capitulation. And that is not what this

00:05:07.760 negotiation is going to be about. Now, will the United States agree to all of those different

00:05:11.920 10 points? I find that very unlikely. So demands that the U.S. should leave the region entirely

00:05:16.880 militarily, I don't think Trump is going to agree to, although I personally think-

00:05:20.020 Hang on, but hang on, but hang on.

00:05:21.420 Ho, ho, slow down, slow down, slow down.

00:05:23.560 You're sugarcoating this.

00:05:25.840 There's not an, if those are the 10 points,

00:05:29.060 I haven't heard the White House say that yet.

00:05:31.640 Maybe somebody has.

00:05:33.560 I just asked Reagan Reese,

00:05:35.040 who's the White House correspondent for Daily Caller,

00:05:37.020 and asked the ballsiest question of Hexas this morning

00:05:39.840 about the total civilizational destruction

00:05:42.240 of the Persian people.

00:05:44.100 But my point is, is that actually a basis?

00:05:47.640 Because I think the way I count,

00:05:49.180 there's eight or ten of them you can't even if you have a conversation it means you're interested 1.00

00:05:53.380 in what the Iranians have to say and quite frankly we're not interested in the reparations their 1.00

00:05:58.260 control of the straighter moves we remove all our military from the Middle East you can't have a 0.81

00:06:04.340 conversation because to even have a conversation assumes you're interested in the response and

00:06:09.180 we're not interested in the response so how can those 10 there's got to be a different 10 it's

00:06:14.720 got to be it can't be those 10 because that's not a basis a basis means there's something here

00:06:19.520 we'll work it out and on the margin and maybe we go 70 you go 30 there's seven or eight of these

00:06:26.180 that are dead on arrival aren't they am i missing it or i think maybe i am and if i am i want you

00:06:31.660 to tell me that yeah look uh some several of them are dead on arrival i agree with that i don't

00:06:37.560 think the united states in any way shape or form will pay reparations to iran uh and i don't think

00:06:43.080 the Iranians will dictate whether the US should stay or leave militarily in the region. I personally

00:06:47.240 think that the US should leave anyways. And frankly, Trump himself has said that we should

00:06:50.860 be leaving. Unfortunately, we're not. But again, it will not be because the Iranians are dictating

00:06:56.000 it to the United States in a negotiation. But I do think that there are other elements of this

00:07:00.620 that are going to be part of the end result if there is an agreement. The strait will be open.

00:07:07.660 I mean, what is happening in the next two weeks while the negotiations are taking place

00:07:11.660 is that these rates will be open, 1.00

00:07:13.960 but the Iranians will be charging fees

00:07:17.300 for the transit of these ships

00:07:19.000 together with the country of Oman.

00:07:21.420 For the United States to accept that

00:07:23.040 and recognize that is in and of itself

00:07:24.940 a big step towards making that a permanent feature.

00:07:27.860 Now, these are not huge amounts of money, 0.89

00:07:29.700 nor is it going to give the Iranians a lot of income,

00:07:32.420 but it's going to give them geopolitical leverage. 0.90

00:07:35.240 And that is one of the features

00:07:36.300 that may come out of this war,

00:07:37.760 even if there is no agreement.

00:07:40.160 Hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:07:41.660 is that not the moral equivalent i just said this was not suez they're trying they're trying to say

00:07:47.000 this is the american suez i said no it's not the american suez maybe what happens in taiwan

00:07:52.140 in a couple of weeks excuse in taiwan invasion in a couple weeks correct me if i'm wrong you're

00:07:58.220 a smart guy if we agree that the iranians with the omanis or that group of pirates down there

00:08:05.100 and the cliffs around Hormuz get to charge a toll in what has been heretofore free navigation.

00:08:12.740 Is that not an American Suez?

00:08:15.460 We can't agree to that. 0.78

00:08:16.420 How do you agree to that?

00:08:17.240 That means you guys are in control of the Straits of Hormuz.

00:08:19.520 And once you're in charge of it, charging a fee under our acquiescence, how are we ever

00:08:25.260 going to wind that back, sir?

00:08:28.320 So I think it's important to recognize one thing.

00:08:31.160 Trump already said about two weeks ago, the United States is not importing oil from the

00:08:36.400 Persian Gulf. This Strait of Hormuz is important to Asian countries and to European countries.

00:08:42.000 It is not crucial to the United States any longer. The entire Middle East is no longer 0.96

00:08:46.460 crucial to the United States. This is one of those problems that we have here in the United 1.00

00:08:51.520 States in which we are overextended in a region that doesn't have a vital interest

00:08:55.840 for U.S. national security any longer. We're not in need of the oil from the Middle East.

00:09:00.180 the rest of the global market is. And they were not willing to step up when Trump asked them to

00:09:05.680 step up militarily and help. And I have full understanding why they didn't. It would have

00:09:10.340 been a losing proposition. And Trump has essentially said, look, this doesn't bother or concern us any

00:09:15.860 longer. And as a result, if the rest of the world has a problem with Iranians charging a fee, then

00:09:20.900 the rest of the world will have to deal with it. You know what the rest of the world is going to 0.97

00:09:23.960 do? They're going to acquiesce to it. They're going to negotiate their own arrangements with

00:09:27.660 the Iranians because the fees are nominal, are very, very small. And the idea of either going 0.99

00:09:32.800 to war with Iran or just paying the small fee is a no-brainer for the vast majority of countries.

00:09:37.520 If the United States, with its massive navy, couldn't open up the straits militarily,

00:09:42.380 what is South Korea or Japan going to do about it?

00:09:48.440 I'm going to put this to Fennell and Faddis as soon as you bounce, but continue on because

00:09:54.720 your analysis of this, what else about these 10 points do you think gets worked at? It starts on

00:10:01.340 Friday, I think, in Islamabad. Give me your assessment of that. So I don't think this is

00:10:08.020 going to end up working. I don't think there's going to be an agreement. Instead, I think there's

00:10:11.240 going to be a non-agreement agreement, which means the two sides don't come to an agreement on any of

00:10:17.060 these points or the majority of these points. But it does not mean that the United States goes back

00:10:22.700 into war with Iran because Trump did the right thing of pulling out of this. He should never

00:10:28.180 have gone into this war. At this point, it should be clear to everyone it was a mistake. This does

00:10:33.120 not serve U.S. interests. And even if the Israelis want to continue the war, that should be an 0.94

00:10:37.720 Israeli war. This should have been an Israeli war from the outset without the involvement of the 0.96

00:10:41.900 United States. And that is then going to leave a scenario in which there will not be an agreement,

00:10:46.840 but there will be a new reality. I think one of those realities is that the Iranians are going 1.00

00:10:51.020 to charge tolls in the Persian Gulf, but the U.S. is not going to lift sanctions on Iran. It's not 0.72

00:10:55.480 going to do any of those other things that the Iranians are asking for, but it's also not going

00:10:59.540 to go back into a war that really does not have a path to victory. At this point, I would be very

00:11:05.700 surprised after Trump's experience in the last 39 days that he decides that this is worth another

00:11:11.360 go. Now, if the Israelis push again, which I think they will, it will really come to Trump making a 0.88

00:11:17.980 decision as to whether he wants the Israelis to decide when the United States goes to war 0.71

00:11:22.100 or whether the president of the United States decides when the United States goes to war.

00:11:28.100 Let's go to, okay, the New York Times then reported Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan's

00:11:33.800 part of their new book. It was a shocking, I think, expose in the, and who knows if it's fake

00:11:40.120 news or not, but the first part of it was about Israel's presentation, I think on February 11th

00:11:45.860 of president trump actually in the situation room which is pretty extraordinary i'm not so sure

00:11:50.760 that's ever happened before to have a foreign leader in the situation room then it was about

00:11:54.720 president trump's senior advisors it turns out that at least according to the new york times

00:12:00.940 and i haven't seen it refuted by the israelis they were 100 dead wrong on all their intelligence

00:12:05.060 everything they briefed president trump on was wrong and the second part of the story was jd

00:12:11.840 and Ratcliffe and Marco, you know, going out of their way to say, oh, that their intelligence is

00:12:20.920 wrong and here's what's correct and maybe we shouldn't do this. What's your assessment of

00:12:25.200 that piece, sir? It does correspond with what I heard throughout this entire period, that Trump

00:12:33.040 himself was the person in the White House most eager to go down this path because the Israelis

00:12:38.600 had managed to convince him, and this also comes through very clearly in this piece,

00:12:42.560 and it's also what I've been saying on your show in previous interviews,

00:12:45.420 Trump was convinced to think that this was going to be very, very easy.

00:12:49.540 And if it was going to be easy, he would never have to deal with these issues 0.74

00:12:52.820 of the Iranians controlling the straits, or that this is impacting his poll numbers in the U.S., 0.97

00:12:57.800 or that it's impacting inflation and gasoline prices,

00:13:01.300 because this would be over with within four days,

00:13:03.980 slightly longer than Venezuela, but far more glorious.

00:13:07.060 They had managed to convince them of that again, based on rosy pictures and false intelligence.

00:13:14.480 Very specifically, the Israeli part of the presentation is that after the initial bombing of the shock and awe that the Iranian military would not have any ability to control the Strait of Hormuz, and there would be a massive uprising of the people.

00:13:28.480 Wrong on both counts.

00:13:29.720 And I mean, not kind of like we're 5% off or 10% off.

00:13:32.660 I mean, dead wrong.

00:13:33.800 Completely off.

00:13:34.840 Dead wrong.

00:13:35.300 Exactly.

00:13:36.240 Exactly.

00:13:36.620 And again, I hope that the president really takes this into account because he is going 0.95

00:13:45.460 to be faced with the Israelis very soon, pushing him to go back into this war.

00:13:50.100 They're dead set against this ceasefire.

00:13:52.460 One of the senior officials in Israel, politicians in Israel, called it the worst political debacle

00:13:58.380 in Israeli history that the ceasefire was reached.

00:14:01.420 So he's going to have to make a decision and learning that he was fed with false intelligence

00:14:06.360 false assessments by the Israelis, should weigh on his mind when he makes his next decision.

00:14:13.640 Thank you, Trita. Where do people go to keep up with your Substack and all your... 0.78

00:14:17.460 You should go to Substack at Trita Parsi, Twitter at T Parsi,

00:14:22.800 and go to the Quincy Institute's website, which is quincyinst.org.

00:14:29.820 Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

00:14:31.540 Thank you so much.

00:14:32.160 If you couple the New York Times article with what's happened over the last 24 hours, it's shocking.

00:14:39.300 And I haven't seen anybody step up and refute it.

00:14:42.680 Actually, I don't know how they're going to release that book, given the sensitive nature of the information put out yesterday.

00:14:49.800 I hope that somebody has had a full review of said book.

00:14:54.460 Anyway, short break.

00:14:55.920 Fennell Faddis next.

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00:16:38.080 Thank you.

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00:18:18.440 finnell in this moment sam faddis you've been a um a a fountain of reason in this entire time

00:18:25.180 give us your assessment of of where we are and where do you think we're headed

00:18:29.300 uh where we are we have a ceasefire and we're going to sit down at a table and we're going to

00:18:35.740 negotiate um that's and and we have nothing beyond that what we have are i can tell you what the

00:18:43.560 iranians say the 10 points are that we have allegedly agreed to negotiate from uh they

00:18:50.840 represent a surrender document a surrender document for us i mean we're the guys in the

00:18:56.780 Japanese uniforms on the battleship in Tokyo Bay in this scenario. We are supposed to withdraw

00:19:04.700 all our troops from the region, acknowledge their control over the Straits of Hormuz, 0.92

00:19:10.320 acknowledge their right to continue to exact a toll, lift all our sanctions against them, 0.89

00:19:16.380 also roll back every resolution the United Nations ever passed on the nuclear program.

00:19:24.320 we're supposed to agree to their right to enrich uranium uh it is a complete their document as

00:19:31.720 pay reparation i just want to make sure the audience understands something sam fad is not

00:19:37.160 saying this is reality and steve bann is not saying this is reality right the iranians have

00:19:42.840 now first when they promulgated it yesterday i was up saying no no no no there's other 10 points

00:19:48.380 out there right but to my knowledge i look to my crack staff or even the war room engine room

00:19:53.160 i haven't seen the administration come back with a counter and say no those president trump

00:19:58.440 mentioned it on the sky news 90 second interview that that was not correct i do think we need to

00:20:04.920 see those although hey if you start the process you start the process but it can't sam correct

00:20:10.220 me if i'm wrong i told trita that can't be the basis of negotiations because i count seven or

00:20:16.000 eight of those that are dead on arrival just and no need to have a conversation because we're never

00:20:20.600 going to get there like for instance no need to have a conversation about you charging a toll

00:20:25.860 because it ain't the two million dollars a ship that's not the point the point is that we would

00:20:30.800 actually agree that you have the ability to control the the straight although quote-unquote

00:20:35.760 it's open by actually charging a toll uh and we're going to turn it over to the british and

00:20:41.020 the french and the other hapless europeans they're you know to to essentially put the 0.59

00:20:46.000 Revolutionary Guard and a group of pirates down off her moves in charge. And there's there's many 0.93

00:20:51.740 more besides that, correct? So it can't be a basis since these are dead on arrival, right?

00:20:58.660 Well, you and I are in complete agreement on that. But what I know is that the Iranians are 1.00

00:21:02.840 saying officially on their state media that this that is the basis. Hezbollah is saying that the

00:21:10.300 The Hezbollah is celebrating.

00:21:13.440 The Iranian proxies in Iraq are celebrating. 0.68

00:21:17.420 They are openly describing this as a decisive victory over the United States. 0.96

00:21:24.420 We are surrendering to them.

00:21:26.280 They are not pulling any punches.

00:21:27.780 So, yeah, I'm like you.

00:21:30.420 Okay, we've got to cease fire, but what exactly are we talking about?

00:21:34.740 Because, you know, we keep trying to come back to, as Captain Fennell says, the main thing, which is China and Taiwan.

00:21:42.560 Well, if we agree to anything remotely resembling these 10 points, do you think Beijing takes seriously anything we say about Taiwan?

00:21:55.140 I mean, if we start this war and then surrender? 0.96

00:21:57.240 ah but you've gotten to the core point because china had their hand in the invisible hand of 1.00

00:22:04.820 the ccp they kind of came to the forefront yesterday they're actively working because 0.70

00:22:09.440 pakistan president trump has a great relationship with the field marshal but pakistan's an ally of

00:22:16.640 the chinese communist party on the one on the belt road all of it and they're one of the that's one 0.88

00:22:21.340 of the most dangerous spots on earth the iranians it's one of their as i draw the thing a couple 0.99

00:22:26.980 years ago the iranians are the probably the biggest real ally that the that ccp has particularly 0.98

00:22:33.900 they got a 40-year output deal on oil and they're and they're taking the risk to pay for it in the 0.73

00:22:39.100 yuan which is a big currency risk sir so it my point i think this needs to be i think the white

00:22:47.000 house and people around the white house have got to put out the 10 points that we think we're

00:22:51.560 negotiating on otherwise because i'm all for this an off-ramp let's get it done let's get that let's

00:22:58.020 send the carrier battle groups over to the pacific where they should be right which is our naturally

00:23:02.960 strategic barrier the central pacific is the is the strategic heartland of our hemispheric defense

00:23:09.580 let's get serious and get over there and get the hell out of this place um but if it's what the

00:23:15.540 iranians are keep saying and meet their media lies all the time but i haven't seen any refutation

00:23:21.220 President Trump is never going to get there on the points because he's adamant about a bunch of these points.

00:23:26.140 Am I missing it?

00:23:28.040 No, you're dead on. 0.98

00:23:29.580 We cannot possibly come anywhere close to negotiating an end to this war based on the 10 points the Iranians have put forward. 0.96

00:23:41.100 But those are the only 10 points. 0.76

00:23:43.740 And they say in their announcement, they, the Iranians, when they said, we agree to this ceasefire, they were very explicit in saying that we are negotiating from our 10 points, that they had rejected the original 15-point plan, I think it was, that Trump put out, and now the Americans have agreed to negotiate on this basis.

00:24:06.540 Now, the fact that Iran says that doesn't make that true.

00:24:09.060 That's not what I'm saying.

00:24:10.320 I'm just saying, okay, we're miles apart here.

00:24:12.820 But Sam, there's a but hang on. There's a logic there. We put out a maximalist position.

00:24:18.100 I thought the 15 points were pretty good. It's a maximalist position, which I'd love to take.

00:24:21.940 And President Trump, that's how he's negotiate. These guys put a maximalist position.

00:24:26.280 But when you do deals, you've got to have a big crossover at some point because there's always tension before you close and execute on the deal.

00:24:33.980 Right. Pull it apart. You're so far. The bid and the ask here are so far apart.

00:24:38.860 you're going to ask Donald Trump for reparations uh you're going to ask Donald Trump to pull out

00:24:45.120 all the military we've got in the Middle East I mean in this regard what the Israelis are saying

00:24:50.160 right now is that this thing's a non-starter and when they look at the 10 points and they're 0.69

00:24:54.560 getting their nose rubbed in this they're actually from their perspective correct are they not

00:24:58.880 yeah they they are I mean look we're the Iranians say as one of their 10 points we will

00:25:04.940 cease all activity against all of their proxies, including the Lebanese resistance. For those that

00:25:11.440 don't speak Ayatollah, that's code for Hezbollah. We have, we and the Israelis need to stop being 1.00

00:25:18.060 mean to Hezbollah. We got to pay reparation. I mean, on and on and on. The thing, that's why I 0.99

00:25:23.980 say that as drafted, this is a surrender document. There's no way in hell we can agree to this thing.

00:25:30.880 So good question. What are we going to exact? What are we talking about when we sit down in Islamabad? Because we are miles and miles apart here.

00:25:41.300 I just think we need clarity. Captain Fennell, your thoughts and observations on this.

00:25:46.080 i am i mean if we if we go with what the iranians are putting out it would be a surrender

00:25:53.520 obviously president trump isn't going to surrender so i think uh i'm not a diplomat but

00:26:00.460 i would guess that if i was heading to pakistan to try to negotiate this that i'd it would be a

00:26:05.300 very tough uh tough meeting uh because these are some of these things are you just can't get around

00:26:12.320 I think the nuclear inspections, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:26:18.220 Why do we even go to what do you mean? Look, and I'm a guy that wants to get the hell out of here.

00:26:22.240 Why do you even go to Islamabad? You tell him right now and say, hey, look, we don't want to go back to using the we don't want to go back. 1.00

00:26:29.300 But in this ceasefire, there's got to be some light at the end of the two week tunnel.

00:26:33.800 We don't want to go back to pounding again. So right now there's such what they've put out there.

00:26:40.060 10 points are so in your face, offensive, that how do you even go to Islamabad? What do you talk

00:26:46.780 about? Well, again, I'm not a diplomat, so I wouldn't go there because I wouldn't be able to

00:26:53.300 talk to them. But there's got to be something that if we're going to try to get through this

00:26:58.240 and get some kind of peace agreement and stop this killing, then let's see what happens. But

00:27:04.000 if it doesn't work, we're going to go back to it. And I think whoever's on our side going there is

00:27:09.100 going to say exactly that message if you guys don't start acting realistic with us then it's

00:27:15.320 just going to we're going to turn the spigot on again and this time as the president said we're

00:27:19.560 going to take out you know your infrastructure uh oil electrical power grid we're going to make

00:27:26.460 sure that you can't function as a society so i think that's that's what the hardball is going 0.95

00:27:32.500 to be played in in pakistan yeah hang over a second i want to hold to you guys we're going

00:27:38.200 to go to texas briefly and find out what's going on there but i've got a recommendation you just

00:27:43.260 tell them hey look we saw the 10 we're gonna we're gonna have a stand down but the real meeting is

00:27:48.400 going to be in beijing on may 13 and 14 let's get principles in the room the united states and the

00:27:52.660 chinese communist party chinese communist party's hands all over this and they need the oil better

00:27:56.560 worse than anybody in the world so let's deal principle to principle why are we doing with 0.98

00:28:00.640 intermediaries like the pakistanis and even the revolutionary guard because we can pound those 0.75

00:28:05.180 guys again. Let's have principle to principle. Let's have Xi and President Trump sit there and 0.92

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00:29:44.620 Okay, let's talk about a real problem.

00:29:47.840 uh down in texas brandon hall joins us brandon uh we left frank yesterday frank gaffney just left

00:29:54.980 testifying we got an update correct me if i'm wrong i understand you guys went to two in the

00:29:59.840 morning central time uh in in austin dealing with this situation sir yeah that's correct steve we

00:30:07.600 heard from hundreds of testifiers yesterday on this issue but i'll tell you texas patriots

00:30:12.880 yesterday roared like a lion. And a big part of that was definitely war room. Um, we had lots of

00:30:17.860 people come in and say that they were sent there, um, by your show here. And so I just want to thank

00:30:22.500 you and the Texas Patriots for highlighting this issue. And, you know, the media was trying to

00:30:26.780 paint this as a one-sided issue. So really it's your show that, that helped us turn out all these

00:30:32.000 people. So where do we stand? I mean, our audience was pretty shocked yesterday when we heard that

00:30:39.480 some republican the republican was still pushing this and that people just didn't understand the

00:30:44.900 logic of teach american history and texas history and patriotic history that we in the concept that

00:30:51.400 we would have any islamic involvement in this whatsoever is just such a alien concept no pun

00:30:57.160 intended to our audience so why did people are shocked this morning when they're hearing it went

00:31:02.320 to two in the morning it should have been over with a quick vote quick discussion and a vote

00:31:06.580 when you guys finished so why did it go into the early hours of the morning sir well part of it was

00:31:13.600 a lot of the testifiers that we had it took a while to get through all those testimonies but

00:31:17.480 again yes we're going to be in debate probably all day today going through this line by line

00:31:22.900 and we're going to have to defend keeping the good american patriotism and exceptionalism and

00:31:26.760 our texas history in and making sure that we don't get the global perspectives and definitely not the

00:31:31.820 influence of Islam. And so this battle is far from over. I'm encouraged we had some good

00:31:36.600 amendments that were positive yesterday. And I think that's because the SPOE members are hearing

00:31:41.980 from these testifiers. And so I think people who may have been a little on the fence or a little

00:31:46.400 bit not as strong as they needed to be in standing up to Islam, I think they were really motivated 0.78

00:31:51.220 to do the right thing by all the testifiers that we had yesterday. 0.97

00:31:56.660 So what's going to happen today? I know you got to bounce because the meeting is about to start,

00:31:59.900 But just walk us through what's going to happen at the what are you saying that the best outcome we could have by the end of the day?

00:32:08.360 Well, the best outcome that we could have by the end of the day is to pass what we have on the table right now.

00:32:13.560 And I'm going to have some amendments and some of the conservatives will have amendments that would strengthen it.

00:32:18.140 But the draft that we have right now with the sweeping amendment that was made last night is very pro-America, teaches a great perspective of American history.

00:32:26.840 And it's very America and Texas focused. It's not globalists at all. We're in a really good spot with Islam. I'm going to make some amendments today to try to strengthen where we're at with Islam, because our students need to know that this is a foreign way of life. It's not just a religion. It's a whole set of values and the system of Sharia. It's a foreign way of life that would destroy this country if we allow it to take a foothold.

00:32:48.640 And so our students just need to know the 1400 years of documented history of Islam showing up on your doorstep, and they never show up to coexist or to get along or to assimilate. They always show up to conquer and to take over. So if we can show our students that, I think we have a better chance in America of stopping it. And so we're going to be fighting that today. But the best possible case scenario is that we can pass what we have with maybe a little bit more strength to it. 1.00

00:33:12.400 brandon where do people follow you on social media and your website because

00:33:18.180 there's an intense interest not just in our great patriots that follow the show in in texas but

00:33:24.700 throughout the country and quite frankly our large international audience all eyes are on texas today

00:33:29.840 sir so where do they go to follow you yeah they can find me at brandon hall tx on x.com and they

00:33:36.940 can also go to sboe.texas.gov to find out my bio and a little bit more information about me as

00:33:42.600 well as my contact info thank you sir appreciate you thank you steve captain for now you've done

00:33:51.820 such a great job here on going through the CENTCOM the military plan the defang and decline but this

00:33:56.420 is my point you you gave a very uh touching um and meaningful uh talk about your your um your

00:34:04.800 brother in arms that you serve with and then he went back to texas as a real texan he talked about

00:34:10.240 texas values you talked about what made this man what he is this is my point the fight we've got

00:34:16.160 right now ain't in tehran the fight we have right now is inside the wire in the united states of

00:34:22.300 america and we're losing this country i want people to understand until and it's not about

00:34:27.480 the war room it's about you know jenny's story and people rallying down there starting in january 0.74

00:34:31.900 Karen Sigmund, all the great patriots in Texas, to fight this imposition of Sharia law that is so

00:34:38.740 far advanced, as Peter McIlvaney has told us. He went there and said, in the same time frame of

00:34:44.100 London, and London has fallen, that it is much more advanced in the state of Texas. And this is

00:34:50.500 what we have to say. We have to beat this back. This is like the gates of Vienna. This is like

00:34:55.420 tours, right? This is like Charles Martel, the hammer, defeating them. They are in this country

00:35:01.980 and it must be defeated. We don't have a choice. If we do not defeat it and we don't defeat it

00:35:06.740 in Texas, you're not going to have a country. You're going to have what's happening in New

00:35:10.400 York City today. Captain Fennell, given that, your perspective on where do we go here in this

00:35:16.380 situation in Iran, sir? Well, Steve, just one comment about Markham Dossett, who passed away

00:35:23.380 last week. Markham is a seventh generation Texan, and he was standing up against the invasion as

00:35:32.240 you're talking about. There was no question in his mind that Texas was under attack, and he

00:35:38.500 understood that. And so patriots like the one you just had on and others that are in Texas

00:35:43.020 and your show that's been down there, it's very, very important. So I don't disagree with you at

00:35:48.000 We have to make sure that we secure our own internal borders, and we have to clean this up, and we cannot allow this to happen to America.

00:35:58.000 But in terms of the external fight, we are in a fight. 0.93

00:36:01.480 We've been in a fight for a month now with the Iranian regime, and we need to find a way to get out of it without allowing them to hold the world and ourselves hostage. 0.97

00:36:13.820 So that negotiation is going to happen. 1.00

00:36:18.000 If it doesn't go well, I see that, as the Secretary of War said, our forces are still in the region

00:36:23.340 and still will be able to bring power to bear. I see the Iranian response, and I heard the 0.81

00:36:30.540 other gentleman from the Quincy Institute talk about, you know, where the Iranians are and what

00:36:35.500 they think. It's kind of like a small child, you know, they throw a temper tantrum, but they really 1.00

00:36:41.620 can't do much. You're still the parent, you still have the power, and they can say and do what they

00:36:47.860 want. What is really critical is that, in my opinion, are the two issues. It's what we do and

00:36:53.760 how we negotiate the nuclear issue, which is really important, but also the Strait of Hormuz. 0.52

00:37:00.000 And there's no way that we can allow Iran to charge tolls for transiting through the Strait

00:37:06.800 of Hormuz. The precedent that that would set would undo not just 250 years of American naval heritage,

00:37:13.740 but another two, three, 400 years of British and other nations. We cannot allow the Iranians to 1.00

00:37:20.920 have a toll booth to control an international waterway. If we do that, then Beijing will try 1.00

00:37:27.520 to do the same for the Strait of Malacca, the South China Sea, the Taiwan Strait, the Yellow Sea,

00:37:35.040 and the Sea of Japan, to be honest, and beyond. They want to control even around out to Hawaii

00:37:40.300 and beyond. So we cannot allow that to happen. I don't think the president will allow that to

00:37:44.880 happen. And I think the best way to demonstrate our ability in this negotiation is to have freedom

00:37:50.920 of navigation with our ships. And we have five ships, American ships, flagged ships that are in

00:37:56.740 the Gulf right now. I know others have been calling for this. I repeat what they've said,

00:38:01.060 Salmukalayagal, I spelled the same name wrong. But we need to get our American ships out that 0.94

00:38:06.200 flag to demonstrate that we're not going to stand by for this and help the other nations

00:38:10.640 that are dependent upon this. We don't have to stay there forever, but we have to demonstrate

00:38:14.700 that the Iranians are toothless in this area. And if they pop off and try to shoot somebody, 1.00

00:38:19.900 then the hammer comes down again. But we've got to get through this and we've got to get out of it

00:38:24.260 to focus on the main thing, which is what this meeting with Xi and President Trump is going to

00:38:29.240 be about in may which is to remind xi that he is not going to control half of the pacific ocean

00:38:37.100 and and keep us in the west coast of america that's not going to happen

00:38:41.920 as the you know captain finnell myself poso we've talked about the chinese communist party

00:38:48.360 involved in it they came forward yesterday so now you know their involvement and this is going to

00:38:52.480 be central i'm still the belief forget islamabad let's just negotiate it mano a mano in the same

00:38:58.520 room in beijing captain finnell thank you so much look forward to having you back on sir great

00:39:04.120 analysis sam faddis your closing thoughts on this uh on day 39 um sam you've done such a good job

00:39:14.280 being so even-handed it looks like the iranians are so over the top it would lead one to believe

00:39:20.320 that the balloon may go up again am i too far off base in saying that

00:39:25.160 No. At this point, if I had to predict, I would predict that we're going to be back in a shooting

00:39:34.320 war sooner rather than later. I hope that's not true, but we're miles apart. I mean,

00:39:42.840 look, we think or want to think they're coming to the table because they believe they are losing

00:39:50.180 the war. They are coming to the table because they believe they are winning the war and we are

00:39:56.240 losing, which is why they're dictating terms to us, which amount to surrender. So that's where we

00:40:05.440 are. You don't have to agree with their assessment. You don't have to adopt their position. I'm just

00:40:11.700 saying they don't at this point believe that we are forcing them to the table. They believe they

00:40:17.020 have forced us to the table that's where we are in americans national security strategy

00:40:23.780 since really the beginning of this republic and i realize we've become an imperial power all over

00:40:30.100 the globe one of the central underlyings that we we assumed and this is what about the end of the

00:40:36.540 dollar empire at breton woods once the the royal navy and the british pound couldn't do it the

00:40:42.640 americans stepped in at the end of world war ii but free navigation has been a central central

00:40:48.480 central look at world war one look at world war ii the pacific all of it how big a deal

00:40:54.980 because people say well hey it's a couple million bucks if you look at the thing it doesn't matter

00:40:59.400 it's not about the money it's not about even how bad this is which is terrible

00:41:06.180 paying it in chinese currency instead of petrodollars it is the very very concept 0.84

00:41:11.660 that a collection of pirates which they are and theocrats could actually set up a toll booth 0.70

00:41:21.960 and what is heretofore been a freely navigate navigatable uh straight into a place where 0.66

00:41:29.840 you know 20 they say 20 of the world's resource but if oil but if you look at europe you look at

00:41:36.120 Asia, I don't know, it's 75 percent, 80 percent. So to even have that conversation is going down

00:41:44.200 a slippery slope that in showing people that you're even interested in having that conversation,

00:41:50.660 you can't be interested in having that conversation because it's never going to happen. So we don't

00:41:54.140 have time to waste time. Am I wrong in that? No, you're absolutely right. It's foundational,

00:41:59.980 Right. It's like, OK, we're we're not having this conversation. I mean, let's look. President Jefferson, we barely had a Navy and a Marine Corps establish this principle with the Barbary pirates. Right. I don't care what the Brits are doing and the French. They pay you off and ransom their citizens. We don't roll like that. Right. We're going to you know, we barely got it.

00:42:22.720 Like I say, we barely got a Navy.

00:42:24.500 It doesn't matter.

00:42:25.160 We're coming to get you, and we're going to establish the United States doesn't do this.

00:42:30.700 Are you kidding me?

00:42:31.480 Now we're going to be in 2026 and letting these, as you say, pirates stick us up?

00:42:37.400 That cannot be.

00:42:39.640 Look, we have to win the war, and it has to be perceived that we win the war.

00:42:45.560 I've said very clearly I wouldn't have recommended we start it nor prosecute it this way, but we're in it, man.

00:42:51.820 And there's no rewind button.

00:42:53.280 You can't now say we're tired of it and walk away.

00:42:56.180 We have to win.

00:42:59.020 Sam, hang on.

00:43:00.120 I'm just going to hold you for a minute on the other side to give your coordinates.

00:43:02.560 But you said something.

00:43:04.100 I disagree with how we got here.

00:43:06.460 Folks know that.

00:43:07.480 I disagree with some of the prosecution of it, obviously.

00:43:11.040 But as I've said, you're in a shooting war.

00:43:14.020 You've put American kids in harm's way.

00:43:16.260 And guess what?

00:43:17.080 There are going to be more shooting wars.

00:43:18.760 People have to understand that.

00:43:19.800 We don't have a choice.

00:43:20.980 we have to have victory it's not a choice we have to have victory short commercial break

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00:45:05.600 I came, I saw, I conquered.

00:45:07.700 I hung around a couple more weeks, conquered some more, and now we're going to go to the negotiating table on a we got a we got a ceasefire.

00:45:15.960 Right. Hopefully that holds already. I think there's a bunch of commotion, but who knows?

00:45:19.900 The decentralized command. One of the things I keep I keep saying is that who can actually make a deal and enforce a deal?

00:45:26.400 I know one group of people can do it and they live in Beijing.

00:45:30.000 So President Trump's scheduled to go. Let's have a big let's have a big discussion on all geopolitics.

00:45:37.700 Taiwan, the Strait of Hormuz, the Middle East, all of it.

00:45:42.940 Sam Faddis, where do people get you?

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00:46:03.520 Sam, just real quickly, do you think we ought to skip Islamabad and just go right to Beijing?

00:46:07.420 or you think we go through the process, let's go, we'll go Friday and have this discussion?

00:46:11.280 Or do you like my thing to just say, let's go, sorry about that.

00:46:14.580 Let's just go to Beijing and sit down with a guy who can actually make a deal,

00:46:18.440 she, and enforce a deal, sir.

00:46:21.540 Look, I'd go to Islamabad, but I would tell him in advance

00:46:24.480 or the very first thing out of my mouth would be, okay, so let's get real.

00:46:28.360 We're not talking about these 10 points, boys.

00:46:31.500 That's nice that you put that out for internal consumption in Iran.

00:46:37.000 But yeah, we're not we're not even going to dignify that with a response.

00:46:40.940 Let's start over. Sam Faddis, thank you so much.

00:46:45.560 I appreciate you, sir. Trevor Comstock.

00:46:53.940 Let's finish on an upbeat note today. Look, we're not shooting.

00:46:58.620 Our kids aren't in harm's way this morning. There's a lot to be thankful for.

00:47:01.780 President Trump's going to figure this out. It'll be figured out.

00:47:04.940 and we'll cover it nonstop until it's figured out.

00:47:08.160 Like I said, there are things, let me just repeat this.

00:47:13.180 The threat of this nuclear weapon, these nuclear weapons,

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00:47:20.460 I agree with President Trump.

00:47:21.420 He totally obliterated what they really had back in June

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00:49:23.580 like that and i always like to mention too the product is intended for both men and women i use

00:49:28.140 it every day on my face i love it but it's perfect for things like dry skin eczema irritation and

00:49:34.460 just daily hydration and again you can use it anywhere on your body whether it's your face

00:49:38.620 your hands your neck pretty much anywhere that your body intends to use it so like i said the

00:49:43.820 reviews have been absolutely phenomenal a lot of people healing a lot of eczema and just great for

00:49:48.620 overall hydration, so I wanted to just touch on that product. Where do people go? I want them to

00:49:55.620 read the reviews coming in. They're amazing, but they also want personal contact with you to be

00:49:59.560 able to send you questions, et cetera. Where do people go? Yeah, you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com

00:50:05.420 and then you can use code war room for 10% off any one-time order. Of course, if you have any

00:50:10.600 questions, you just hit the contact us button. You can reach out to us directly, but yeah, I

00:50:14.800 encourage people to check out the towel moisturizer. It's been helping a lot of people with daily

00:50:18.300 hydration, uh, and just overall skin support.

00:50:23.240 Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate you. Mike Lindell want to finish on the upbeat today.

00:50:29.000 Want to run through the tape. People have been absorbing a lot of information, some great news,

00:50:34.280 some, Hey, maybe, maybe less great. What do you got for us, sir? We want a deal. We want a great

00:50:38.940 deal. Only you can do it. What do you got? Absolutely. You guys. And by the way, I got a

00:50:43.540 couple, I got a couple of big governor events this week. You guys can check that out at Mike

00:50:47.640 MacLindaleGov.com. Big rallies and events I'm having myself here in my hometown here in Chaska,

00:50:54.180 Minnesota. We're having one tomorrow night. But anyway, right now, as you all know, we move

00:50:58.640 factories. We have about 20 semis of stuff we're going to ship directly to you. And one of the

00:51:04.020 semis I found is full of the slippers we're closing out. These slippers, originally $149.99,

00:51:11.320 I believe, this is a War Room Posse exclusive. Once they're gone, they're gone. We're not going

00:51:17.320 to put a lemon at $29.99 a pair. You're also going to get a free bottle of leather spray

00:51:22.900 and free shipping on your entire order. So this is a specific product. This will be once they're

00:51:30.300 gone, they're gone. So get your size now. We have, I think it's a little over one semi-full

00:51:35.740 that we're just going to, once we're closing out the slippers, that's it. $29.99. This is a

00:51:41.720 wholesale price. This is what our employees pay. We're passing it on to the War Room Posse.

00:51:46.700 so we don't have to bring it into the factory

00:51:49.660 or shipping it right to your front door for free shipping.

00:51:53.020 If you go to mypillow.com forward slash war room,

00:51:56.300 there you see the slippers we put on there.

00:51:58.920 You're also going to see all the other stuff that we have out there

00:52:02.300 that we don't want to bring in the factory,

00:52:03.700 the clothes out of our clothing line

00:52:06.360 and these lines that we're closing out

00:52:08.120 that were originally earmarked for the box stores, everybody.

00:52:11.080 So their loss is your gain up to 80% off

00:52:14.880 and the free shipping right to your front door.

00:52:17.520 Remember to take advantage right now

00:52:19.160 where we still have the free shipping for the War Room Posse.

00:52:22.140 It's our mattress toppers and mattresses made in the USA.

00:52:26.440 Those big ticket items cost a lot to ship right to you.

00:52:30.040 800-873-1062.

00:52:33.940 Get a hold of one of my employees now downstairs 1.00

00:52:36.160 and get that free shipping promo code WARROOM.

00:52:41.080 We'll see you this afternoon, Mike. Thank you.

00:52:43.040 The Charlie Kirk show is next. Post those after that. Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling, and I'll do a transition with Bolling.

00:52:49.620 We're back here 5 to 7 tonight. Ben Harnwell is going to be riding shotgun with me. See you at 5 o'clock.

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Bannon's War Room - April 08, 2026

Episode 5283： Battling Back Against The Islamification Of Texas; No Confidence In The 10 Point Plan

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