00:01:38.580It seems like every Congress, there's this new euphemistic spin on what is amnesty to
00:01:43.380depress the wages and livelihoods of American workers, you know, euphemized, so we're going
00:01:48.340to give people their new favorite word, dignity. And we're seeing it, it's rearing its ugly head
00:01:54.520again. It's just people being proxies for big business, right? What's new? But can you sort
00:01:59.900of walk us through first the sort of affront of this bill, the way that a lot of these Republicans
00:02:04.960as well, I guess I'd say shocking, but I guess at this rate, it's not that that is the messaging
00:02:10.140behind it, how radical it is, and what you guys are doing to try to stop it.
00:02:14.920Yeah, so I call this bill, instead of the Dignity Act, the SAW Act for Screw All American Workers,
00:02:21.600because this bill hits every American worker, whether they're low-wage, medium-wage, or high-wage.
00:02:28.340It's got amnesty for at least 10 million illegal aliens to compete with low-wage American workers.
00:02:34.940It codifies OPT. It doubles the employment-based green cards, so it's hitting mid- and high-wage
00:02:43.160American workers and taking their jobs. It allows foreign students that get STEM degrees in the
00:02:48.700United States to remain here permanently. So, I mean, it doesn't matter where you are in the0.85
00:02:53.900economy, this bill would dramatically affect you and decrease your wages and increase competition
00:03:01.640for jobs. It's despicable. And, you know, it's it's not just there are 20 Democrat co-sponsors
00:03:08.360and 19 Republican co-sponsors, plus the lead sponsor, Maria Salazar. But basically, all of
00:03:15.060the Democrats in the House support almost all of them anyway, support this bill. And they're just
00:03:20.460metering the number of sponsors so that they can claim that it's completely bipartisan with 20 of
00:03:26.300each. So every time they find a new dupe Republican to join their effort, they add on
00:03:32.860another Democrat. It's just a scam. And they're lying. The sponsors of this bill are lying about
00:03:39.220it, saying that there's zero tolerance for criminal aliens in the amnesty. That is not true.
00:03:44.180They have waivers for all kinds of crimes, misdemeanors, drug smuggling, all sorts of
00:03:49.320things, including, by the way, unlawful voting. So the thing that never happens, they're actually
00:03:54.980waiving the felony for unlawful voting to get amnesty. It's disgusting.
00:04:02.700We've done a lot of work here in the war room exposing the kind of, I think, foundational
00:04:06.180lies that led to the just complete and utter ballooning of the H-1B visa caps, right? This
00:04:11.360idea, frankly, at its core, which I think is offensive that American workers can't cut it,
00:04:15.440but they're actually not importing the best of the brightest. But I think this OPT program is
00:04:19.860something that doesn't get equal attention, even though I think its actual creation is almost more
00:04:25.260sinister because it really is replacing, you know, the brightest, the youngest, most STEM-oriented
00:04:30.540Americans, particularly those just starting out their careers, you know, in the college and grad
00:04:35.280school levels. Could you sort of expand a little bit on that program? Yeah, so the Optional Practical
00:04:41.880training program, OPT, was created under the Bush, W. Bush administration, by executive fiat. There's
00:04:50.260no statutory authorization for this program. It was created by the president. And then it was
00:04:56.680expanded by President Obama so that if you're in a, if you are graduating with a STEM degree as a
00:05:03.040foreign student, you get three years to stay in the United States and taxpayers subsidize the
00:05:10.320employers of these foreign graduate students by that since they don't have to pay FICA taxes.
00:05:17.920So basically, the employer gets a discount to hire a foreign graduate instead of an American
00:05:24.500graduate. It's it's an unbelievable program. And, you know, most people don't know it exists
00:05:30.700unless, of course, you're one of the victims of it. The Americans who graduate from college,
00:05:36.020you know, with a STEM degree, they've done everything they're supposed to do,
00:05:39.220everything we tell them to do, and yet they can't get a job because the employers are subsidized to
00:05:45.520hire foreign graduates. And, you know, this is the pipeline that leads to H-1Bs. So people come here
00:05:53.300as a foreign student, and then they get OPT, and they find an employer, and then that employer
00:05:58.580sponsors them for an H-1B. And that job is essentially permanently removed from American
00:06:05.180ability to get it. So it's a terrible program. It needs to be ended. It should have been ended
00:06:11.880a long time ago. And it is time to completely and utterly end OPT. Nobody here on a foreign
00:06:19.340student visa should get an employment authorization. If any administration, I think,
00:06:24.520wants to show that they're putting American workers first, I mean, frankly, there's a
00:06:27.800laundry list, a very extensive grab bag of weird three-letter programs that you could probably
00:06:34.180canceled that word. I think OPT should be top of the list. But I want to link this to, I think,
00:06:40.280what is a pretty alarming story that I'm sure a lot of the Warren Posse has read about, which is
00:06:45.020that the birth rate is hitting yet new year, new low. Obviously, Lawler and Maria Salazar and
00:06:52.300established Republicans of the world would say, well, this is why we need mass immigration. This0.84
00:06:56.820is why we need to make birth rate citizenship even more laissez-faire. If you're within a 500.55
00:07:01.640kilometer radius of the United States, you can be a citizen. But it sort of seems like addressing
00:07:06.300the root cause, which is that young American families can't get jobs, don't feel the economic
00:07:10.300security that they have to actually have children, is sort of being exacerbated by these policies.
00:07:16.040Can you speak a little bit to sort of linking that crisis with the immigration crisis?
00:07:21.500Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the more we import foreigners, and by the way, we're importing
00:07:27.060them at the rate of over a million per year as legal permanent residents. Then we have well over
00:07:33.280a million temporary foreign workers. And then we have illegal immigration, which is, you know,
00:07:38.92016 million minimum in this country. And all of those people need a house to live in. They all0.99
00:07:47.060need services, whether it's criminal justice services or, you know, welfare services or
00:07:52.960and public education is a huge one. And so they're competing with Americans for resources
00:07:58.220and they're taking the supply of infrastructure like housing. So, you know, if you're a young
00:08:05.200person and you can't afford to buy a house and the rent is out of control, it's tough to make
00:08:11.560that decision to have a family. But, you know, the immigration is not going to solve a birth1.00
00:08:17.820rape problem because, first of all, we're importing poor people. So, you know, the vast1.00
00:08:23.960majority of immigrants who come here, especially lawful permanent residents, are family-based1.00
00:08:29.340immigrants, and they're largely undereducated and poor. You can't, you know, fix the social1.00
00:08:37.100security system or the economy with low-wage workers. You know, we need an educated workforce.
00:08:44.800We've got AI coming in that's going to be more competition for American workers.
00:08:49.220So we need to focus on getting Americans, you know, good paying jobs where they can actually support a family and make the decision to have one so that they see some hope in their future.
00:09:02.660And speaking of that, I think an even more radical idea is birthright citizenship.
00:09:07.680I think what the Trump administration has been trying to do on ending that is certainly moving in the right direction.
00:09:12.220I kind of view it as like the worst derivation of DEI.
00:09:40.580and what do you think the feasibility is of the Trump administration actually being able to end
00:09:44.380that? So I was actually at the Supreme Court when they had arguments a week and a half ago or so,
00:09:51.840and it was, I mean, it seems so obvious to me, I'm clearly biased, but the Solicitor General
00:09:58.200did a great job in those arguments, I thought. It was very clear that at least one of the justices
00:10:06.060has no concept of much of anything, but certainly didn't understand the meaning of the word
00:10:12.100jurisdiction and that there's a difference between territorial jurisdiction and political
00:10:17.260jurisdiction. And it is absolutely clear from what the authors of the 14th Amendment wrote and said
00:10:25.500in debate that they intended, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to mean political jurisdiction.
00:10:32.780In other words, allegiance, allegiance to the United States and not allegiance to any foreign power.
00:10:38.860And it is preposterous to argue that illegal aliens or temporary visitors, whether they're tourists or foreign students or whatever, have any allegiance to the United States of America, to our government.
00:10:51.940You can't be—you have to be a lawful permanent resident, essentially, which is what was decided by the Supreme Court in Wong Kim Arp when they said that the parents were legally domiciled and so, therefore, their child was an American at birth.0.67
00:11:06.640So, you know, if the justices look at what the actual language of the 14th Amendment meant at the time it was written, and that is very clear, that meaning is very clear in the congressional record, then I think they have to get rid of birthright citizenship.
00:11:27.920Now, what I think they may try to do, certainly Justice Kavanaugh made it very clear that he was looking for a way out of having to decide the constitutional question, and whether that means they toss it to Congress to define subject to the jurisdiction thereof or some other way, I think that's a very strong possibility.
00:11:49.720And, you know, the Congress has had a bill called the Birthright Citizenship Act that has been introduced to every Congress for at least 20 years, and Congress should pass it.
00:12:01.300You know, they should have passed it years ago.
00:12:03.480They haven't because, of course, it's Congress, and so they don't do much.
00:12:07.280But they certainly could pass that and define subject to the jurisdiction in the law.
00:12:13.120That would have actually lent weight to the Solicitor General's arguments in the Supreme Court.
00:15:51.040We also got Brian Kennedy, who I want to have on to give us some updates
00:15:55.220on what President Trump was just talking about.
00:15:57.340But before we get to all things Iran, Cleo, I want to bring you on the show. You're always at the tip of the spear doing very interesting work in Chinese Communist Party infiltration and shenanigans across the globe often and, you know, conveniently placed strategically located ports and other very interesting military significance locations.
00:16:17.600I'd love to get some updates on that, but also your thoughts on the meeting we saw go down between Taiwanese opposition leader and Xi Jinping, certainly an escalation.
00:16:27.840A lot of talks about unification and the future of Taiwan, how that kind of all meshes in with what you've been working on.
00:16:36.740Yes, thank you very much. So she's the president of the KMT, which, as you mentioned, is the opposition party.
00:16:42.000And it's a party that's been known to be quite close to China for a very long time.
00:16:47.400And what it's doing is it's creating fractionalization, not just within the KMT, because there are some sections of the KMT that would like to remain free of such overarching Chinese control and be put in re-education camps when the Chinese come across the street and all that sort of thing.
00:17:05.640But it also creates fractionalization within the population itself.0.74
00:17:09.100So it's the kind of entropic warfare of the political warfare realm that we've been seeing before.1.00
00:17:16.200It's not helpful, which is what the Chinese are going for.0.98
00:17:20.660And it's combined with closing of airspaces that we're seeing in other locations and a continuation of military exercises and building up of their capacities.0.98
00:17:34.100So it's among the spectrum that goes from political warfare all the way through to kinetic. It's a strike right into the heart of the political infrastructure within Taiwan, and hopefully it won't be effective.
00:17:50.520i'm curious your your broader thoughts as to how what is going down in the middle east is affecting
00:17:59.100the calculus in beijing i know there was a lot of focus on sort of shake up at the cmc having
00:18:03.720younger maybe more you know wolf warrior style leaders in there potentially making something
00:18:07.880more aggressive likely to happen or just sort of you know agreeing with anything that xi jinping
00:18:12.540wanted a distraction for maybe a dismal economy at home right a lot of permutations but that's
00:18:17.700sort of a big variable to now toss into this. What's your general assessment of, you know,
00:18:23.820the United States' significantly expanded involvement, not just from a, you know,
00:18:29.140defense industrial-based munitions, artillery weapons perspective, but also just seems like
00:18:34.340maybe a reorientation of focusing on that region a little bit more. How do you think that affects
00:18:38.040Xi's calculus in Taiwan? It's a very complex scenario because you can find indicators
00:18:47.620for things that would help the U.S. position
00:18:49.880and things that would hurt the U.S. position.
00:18:52.000So in terms of things that would help the U.S. position,
00:18:55.000the Chinese Communist Party likes things to be predictable,
00:18:58.200and President Trump is anything but predictable.
00:19:00.860So unless they feel like they've got a control over the political situation,
00:19:05.620which would mean that the U.S. wouldn't enter into a conflict with Taiwan to begin with,
00:19:10.220or the kinetic situation, which is the U.S. can't,
00:19:12.960munitions are depleted or whatever that enter into a situation in Taiwan, then it makes it harder
00:19:18.520for China to move. Also, the U.S. is in the process of strangling some key fuel supply lines
00:19:26.320into China. So not only out of the Middle East, but also the Venezuela move was incredibly
00:19:31.100important for that. So those are things that might help delay a Chinese decision to go across
00:19:38.560the strait. But another is, you know, if they think that the American population isn't going
00:19:44.240to push for anything else, if they think they have the sort of tools available to them in places like
00:19:49.400Guam, for example, to be able to cut off a U.S. response and buy some time so that the media
00:19:56.780narrative warfare campaign can take root and make it an almost fait accompli, then you've got
00:20:04.480something that would benefit China. And also remember that the Chinese are,0.92
00:20:09.680there's talk about, you know, having to bring massive amounts across the street,
00:20:15.500how difficult that would be. They can fly in on commercial flights, large amounts of what's
00:20:22.720required. And also the Chinese organized crime elements in key ports within Taiwan are basically
00:20:29.880controlling the ports. So who knows what's coming into the ports anyway. So when you're looking at
00:20:34.120assessing Chinese capabilities already in Taiwan, it's not only essential to look at that fifth0.94
00:20:40.440column element, but also the role of Chinese organized crime in undermining Taiwan's ability
00:20:45.740to respond. And again, the key, I think, is going to be delaying, making things go dark,
00:20:52.920creating confusion, making it harder for the U.S. political response to trigger a kinetic response0.94
00:21:00.260that would force the Chinese to dislodge.
00:21:03.740But that's once the decision to try to invade Taiwan is taken.
00:21:07.820And that decision hopefully has been complicated by President Trump's forceful actions
00:21:15.560and unpredictability from a Chinese Communist Party calculations perspective.
00:21:22.940From CNMI to Guam to Diego Garcia to all of these sort of, you know, not niche in the geopolitical sense, but niche in the traditional Western media sense, places that you've spent a lot of time.
00:21:36.280And I think there's an extremely high and outsized ROI on, you know, investing there and securing those areas and rooting out PRC infiltration.
00:21:44.680And what would you tell the Trump administration are those little kind of, you know, edge case situations, which maybe don't catch a bunch of media headlines, but that the result or return that they would get from really deploying, whether it's resources or political capital or just attention to these areas, they could really shore up some security and ensuring that the PRC is less likely to do something, you know, more in the kinetic spectrum in Taiwan.
00:22:10.000Thank you. Thank you for that question.
00:22:11.420There's one thing that's very critical at the moment.
00:22:14.640So we've talked about the three U.S. freely associated states, Palau, Federalist States of Micronesia, and Marshall Islands.
00:22:20.340So these are this area of the Central Pacific between Hawaii and Guam and the Philippines.
00:22:27.180These three islands have a unique relationship with the United States.
00:22:31.000They can serve in the military at very high rates, and they do.
00:22:36.280They can freely work and live in the U.S.
00:22:38.840The U.S. has the responsibility to protect them.
00:22:44.220It's what allows the U.S. to safely get across the center of the Pacific in order to be able to get to the first or second island chain and to get to the Americans in Guam and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Island.
00:22:55.840Over 100,000 Americans died during World War II to create this very unique relationship.
00:23:01.980And these are the locations of battles like the Battle of Peleliu in Palau, for example.
00:23:07.140Right now, I mentioned that they serve in the U.S. military at very high rates.
00:23:11.820They're such an integrated part of U.S. defense that not only have they allowed the U.S. to use their land to defend the U.S., including the Americans in Guam and CNMI, but also in Hawaii and the mainland, but they've used their bodies.
00:23:28.680They've physically served in the U.S. military.
00:24:01.940And there's funding allocated for it. But for some completely inconceivable reason, kind of lower level people in veterans affairs are blocking it. And the result is that it's such a breach of trust because you have these people go from, for example, the Marshall Islands. They serve in Afghanistan. They serve in Iraq. They come back home in need of help. And the US has breached its contract.
00:24:28.060And from a political warfare perspective, apart from anything else, this is a gift to the Chinese who say, look, they take your boys and girls and they send them back broken.0.94
00:25:08.220And why aren't you getting your care from the U.S.?
00:25:10.040Why are we the ones giving you the care?
00:25:11.880So this honorable treatment of the men and women from the Federalist States of Micronesia, Palau, and Marshall Islands that the U.S. government promised them and is not delivering to them is low cost.
00:25:25.960The money is already allocated. And if it's not done, it is very damaging to the U.S. position across the region and is a huge opening for the sort of Chinese entry into the medical systems that can result in expanded social credit control, including denial of care to the sort of people who would otherwise be standing up to the Chinese.0.92
00:25:50.860it's always an honor to have you on you bring us the cutting edge information that we certainly0.88
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00:33:18.860Welcome back to The War Room, quite, I guess, prophetically named.
00:33:28.000We still got Brian Kennedy, chairman of the Committee on the Present Danger China.
00:33:32.860Brian, I just sort of want to toss it to you in the broadest sense.
00:33:35.580I'm sure you heard my discussion with Clio, how this affects the PRC calculus.
00:33:39.120Obviously, there's a lot of developments going on, not just in the Taiwan streets,
00:33:43.920but in mainland China with the meeting between the opposition leader and Xi Jinping.
00:33:48.860So I'm curious how you think the sort of various outcomes of what we're seeing going on in
00:33:54.680Iran kind of affect the PRC back at home, obviously, with reporting being that they
00:33:59.680were kind of quite instrumental in helping the ceasefire even be agreed to.
00:34:05.100But how you think this just sort of affects the broader geopolitical situation?
00:34:10.920Yeah, that's a great question, Natalie.
00:34:12.920First of all, I think the PRC wanted that ceasefire because they want their oil contracts to be fulfilled from Iran, and they certainly don't want or could afford to have the global economy go into some kind of freefall if things got worse over there.
00:34:29.960So they weren't doing this to look out for anybody but themselves.
00:34:35.060Look, I've always looked at this problem with Iran, partly in terms of China or maybe even mostly in terms of China.
00:34:42.920China has used Iran as a proxy against the United States for many years.0.79
00:34:48.700The reason the Chinese want that proxy is because they're able to use it for influence throughout the Middle East.0.67
00:34:57.140So Iran's nuclear program, which is ostensibly the reason we're there, has been developed for over two decades with the help of communist China.0.75
00:35:06.920Much of that development of those nuclear weapons programs occurred in North Korea using Chinese and Russian scientists.0.53
00:35:15.600So China certainly sees Iran as one of their proxies.
00:35:20.540Venezuela was also one of their proxies.
00:35:25.480I think much of what President Trump has done here is to eliminate the ability of China's proxies to harm the United States.0.77
00:35:33.800And so Venezuela, in my judgment, was about China. Cuba, if we should go down that road, will be about China. And certainly Iran, quite substantially, is due to China and their support of Iran's nuclear weapons program.
00:35:49.380I think what Trump, President Trump has done here is signaled to communist China that's not going to take place, that we're going to do what's in our interest.0.54
00:35:58.340We're not going to be in endless wars. We're not going to have an American empire that seeks to go everywhere, you know, all over the world.
00:36:06.020But we are going to stop you, communist China, from using your influence to harm the interests of the United States and, more importantly, the security of the United States.0.91
00:36:16.500So I see this as targeted as much at China as it is Iran. And in that sense, I take quite seriously what President Trump has articulated, as I say, about their nuclear weapons. And I'm concerned today about what communist China could do to resupply Iran during these two weeks.0.92
00:36:37.340the president has articulated that there'll be 50 percent tariffs on anybody who looks to be
00:36:43.720helping Iran during this period of time. But we're in a delicate spot here. And this is not
00:36:49.820going to be easy. I don't think it's going to be quick. I hope it is quick. But, you know,
00:36:54.160there's a long way to go here before we see an end to this war in terms that are suitable to
00:37:00.660the United States. Yeah, I mean, from start to finish, from cradle to grave, basically all of
00:37:07.620the domestic drone manufacturing done in Iran is aided and abetted. It's buttressed by Chinese0.99
00:37:12.820technology manufacturing. And I understand what you're saying on the China front. I think there's
00:37:17.520no disputing that these countries have acted as proxies. But I think to me, to help square that
00:37:23.060logic chain, I think it's incumbent that the administration really seriously then address
00:37:27.840our defense industrial base, right, and the shortages that we're now seeing as a result
00:37:32.160of what is going on in this conflict, not just by the rearrangement of forces, but by the
00:37:37.220deployment, right, of interceptors and missiles that we're seeing we now have really critically
00:37:42.420low levels of. And I think that in some cases, the way that the Pentagon is approaching,
00:37:47.120kind of fixing or trying to up those numbers is just by giving massive amounts of money to the
00:37:52.680same, you know, military industrial complex giants, these defense primes that got us here.
00:37:57.840in the first place. And I don't think, I mean, in my opinion, that we've seen enough movement
00:38:02.780to deter the Chinese from, I think, viewing America as being in a place that is, from a0.97
00:38:08.980defense industrial-based perspective, adequately supplied to effectively deter China. Obviously,0.94
00:38:15.400this conflict is going on in real time. So that's something that has to play out. It takes years to
00:38:20.240make just one submarine. But I'm curious how you sort of view that problem as factoring in
00:38:26.800to the lens of the China issue, but also the ability or the prospect of boots on the ground
00:38:33.780and how you think that would affect the calculus.
00:38:37.240Let me go with your first point about the industrial capacity of the United States to produce these weapons
00:49:39.660I think ballooning is still an understatement,
00:49:41.500but all things national debt. Yeah, no problem. You know, it's all bad news anyway, Natalie. We
00:49:48.200should probably just, I could sum it all up in a minute and we should skip over it.
00:49:52.800The story though that you put up that's in the stack that if people want to see it
00:49:57.680is that people need to be reminded that interest, just the interest on the national debt has really
00:50:02.840exploded as interest rates have gone up, right? So five years ago, we were paying 300 billion a
00:50:09.500year in interest. And now we're paying over a trillion. And that trillion is a little bit more
00:50:13.580than the defense or it's right around the size of the defense budget. And it's bigger than Social
00:50:17.920Security or Medicare. So it's it's this huge number. Right. And so it works out. It's three
00:50:23.680billion dollars a day and even worse. So that's the interest part. What do we actually borrow
00:50:28.860every day is another three billion. So we're borrowing the U.S. government borrow six billion
00:50:33.200dollars every day. So you multiply six times three hundred and sixty five days in a year.
00:50:37.580That's how you get a two trillion dollar deficit every year. And as you and I have talked, people should actually know, Natalie and I talk about the national debt in our private personal phone calls.
00:50:48.280As we as you and I have talked, you know, we're bringing in five and a half trillion in tax revenue every year and we're spending seven and a half trillion.
00:50:57.400So that's how you get a two trillion dollar deficit. And we certainly wish the government would pay a little bit more attention to it.
00:51:03.960We love Scott Besson and we love President Trump and we know he cares about the national debt.
00:51:09.020Like there's no doubt about it. But, you know, I've the case I've been making and I'll throw it back to you.
00:51:15.320The case I've been making is just that this is a time, you know, Trump has a certain type of popularity with the base where we would support him.
00:51:23.260I would like to see a real effort in these next three years to address the long term spending problems that are causing the national debt to, you know, to grow this way.
00:51:33.680So that's the case I always try to make. And people will notice in the stack that if there's one issue that I really, really care about, it's debt and deficit issues. And so I'm trying to, you know, and I'm now convincing you to have the same neuroses that I have. So there you go.
00:51:51.220I'm curious, you know, not just year to date, but I guess start of this administration to date, have you seen anything meaningful that gave you a little bit of hope that they were going to address this head on?
00:52:03.680Revenue. The only place, and this is the point that Besant tried to make, is, look, we're going to grow the revenue side. We're going to grow the tax revenue. And it looks like that's being done slightly. I mean, deficits were about $2.2 trillion under Biden. And this year, this fiscal year for Trump, it's probably going to be $1.9 or $1.95.
00:52:22.800So that's yes, that's you know, we're making slight bits of progress that we're that we're shrinking it.
00:52:29.140But, you know, you talked about in the last segment, Trump, again, I love the guy, but he wants to increase the defense budget from one trillion to one point five trillion.
00:52:38.140So that's obviously going to expand the deficit again. It would take it from one point nine to about two point three trillion.
00:52:45.820So, yeah, whatever. It's not the best news. That's why we're burying it on a Friday, Natalie. This is really good TV strategy.
00:52:52.800hey uh what can i say i i get told i'm gonna host and it always seems to be on
00:52:59.040on friday's afternoon which i say it's prime time because it's the real the real war room posse that's
00:53:04.320here that's true these are the hardcore fans and ones that are here and look i i say it all tongue
00:53:10.040in cheek like you know how i how i sort of feel about this stuff and i'll just say this as we
00:53:15.080check out you know the war room audience needs to pay attention pay attention when natalie talks0.99
00:53:19.840She is one of the true, amazing young superstars.0.51
00:53:23.420People will forget she's still just 25 years old and, you know, and she's running this show like a pro.
00:53:28.960So it was fun to be with you. And I'll always say yes.
00:53:32.780I'm laying it out there now. When you host the show, if you want to talk national debt, I'll be happy to do it.
00:53:39.180Well, I wish more people spoke about the national debt who are in Congress and the White House and all around the country.