Bannon's War Room - Episode 5301： I Am Your Retribution; Going After The Lawfare Against Christians

00:00:00.000 Yeah, in this report, the DOJ is saying that the Biden administration, that DOJ, politically targeted anti-abortion opponents for violating, sorry, for expressing their freedom of religion by blocking abortion clinics.

00:00:15.060 Now, of course, these are violations of the FACE Act, which is a 1994 law that expressly prohibits blocking the access to any reproductive rights clinics like this.

00:00:25.600 Now, ironically, this is the same law that the DOJ has actually used to charge Don Lemon and 38 others for that St. Paul church protest.

00:00:33.380 But they're saying that the Biden administration's use of this law, which is on the books for this reason, is politically motivated and a violation of those rights.

00:00:41.920 Now, the president did pardon dozens of people who were convicted under this law, and they're using this 882 page long report to justify those pardons.

00:00:51.300 And in this report, they lay out the various examples of these cases as proof of weaponization.

00:00:57.800 But I want to make it really clear that these are cases that were brought by career prosecutors in the civil rights division of the DOJ and presented to juries.

00:01:05.020 And the juries found these people guilty of violating the FACE Act.

00:01:08.500 So these are people who are convicted of these crimes.

00:01:10.560 These are people who are career prosecutors in the civil rights division.

00:01:13.180 And as my colleagues Karolenic and Ken Delaney reported, we know that four prosecutors were fired for their involvement in these FACE Act prosecutions, including the man who oversaw this whole team.

00:01:24.120 He was a longtime veteran of the Civil Rights Division.

00:01:26.840 He had been put on leave in March as this investigation was swirling up about the apparent weaponization of the use of the FACE Act.

00:01:34.460 So we know that he and his presumably his team are the four prosecutors who were fired from this.

00:01:40.100 Now, this just creates a bigger vacuum where there was already a vacuum, because this is a DOJ under the Trump administration that has been completely gutted.

00:01:48.080 You talked about the team that worked on Iran, but there have been dozens and dozens of prosecutors who were fired for their involvement in January 6 prosecutions and the president's own prosecutions into both his Mar-a-Lago case and the election case.

00:02:01.000 But then at the same time, we've seen a wave of resignations.

00:02:04.000 Of course, there are some high profile ones like the former top prosecutor in the Eastern District of Virginia who refused to pursue charges against Letitia James.

00:02:12.760 These are people who are resigning under apparent pressure to bring charges against the president's perceived enemies.

00:02:19.720 I do. And I disagree not because it's just my opinion.

00:02:22.440 I disagree because of the work that we did over the past year at the department, understanding what happened that led to these completely inappropriate results.

00:02:31.780 And prosecutors have a big say in sentencings in the federal system.

00:02:36.060 The judge ultimately imposed a sentence.

00:02:37.900 But what we saw is prosecutors arguing for really harsh sentences, inconsistent with what they should have been doing and inconsistent with what they were arguing when it was exactly the opposite.

00:02:48.300 And we saw internal emails, internal correspondence, which is now part of the report where Department of Justice prosecutors are working hand in hand with NGOs and nonprofits to target and go after pro-life, pro-life individuals who were not breaking the law.

00:03:06.340 OK, and I'll tell you what, there's no emails.

00:03:09.020 There's no emails in my inbox from NGOs telling me what to do.

00:03:12.300 And it's disappointing. And look, I hope the American people can see the work that we did over the past year trying to understand what happened.

00:03:21.260 But once they see it, I think folks will be frustrated and disappointed.

00:03:26.420 What does this mean for abortion clinics? And is it possible that now the application of the FACE Act may not be enforced as heavily as it has been moving forward?

00:03:35.960 You know, that looks like the trend here.

00:03:38.280 Unfortunately, in the wake of Dobbs, the decision that overruled Roe versus Wade, there had been at least the beginnings of an uptick of violence and of these acts of intimidation at clinics.

00:03:50.560 But this Justice Department instead is focused on the religious access part of the FACE Act and also is using the clinic access portion of the statute to protect clinics that are providing information and alternatives to abortion.

00:04:06.600 And look, that's fine. That's within the ambit of the statute. But doing that while not prosecuting, while not engaging in cases that involve clinics, just sets an atrocious example in communities, in essence, enabling this violence.

00:04:21.340 You know, in 1998, I was one of the first prosecutors on site when an abortion clinic in Birmingham was bombed and a police officer was killed.

00:04:30.540 A nurse was seriously injured. As prosecutors, we use the FACE Act to protect our communities.

00:04:36.960 These statutes provide a great deterrent effect, but only when they're used.

00:04:41.880 So abandoning the statute means that our communities will be less safe.

00:04:46.200 We don't have free press. We don't have free anything.

00:04:48.860 in 2016 i declared i am your voice today i add i am your warrior i am your justice

00:04:58.480 and for those who have been wronged and betrayed i am your retribution i am your retribution

00:05:05.680 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:05:19.580 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:05:26.180 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:05:29.940 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:05:33.520 like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people

00:05:41.340 had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save

00:05:49.000 my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. 0.62

00:05:56.460 you're in the war room it's wednesday april 15th in the year of our lord 2026 natalie winters

00:06:05.840 hosting i know i don't usually do the morning shows but here we are don't go anywhere we of

00:06:10.760 course have a packed show i want to bring on our first guest to walk us through that cold open a

00:06:16.380 new report coming out of the doj talking about that's no surprise to this audience the weaponization

00:06:21.700 against pro-life groups, everybody sort of on that spectrum getting just ridiculous punishments.

00:06:28.220 We've got Mike Howell, who I think probably leads the, what, quasi-NGO? That is probably

00:06:34.200 blowing up Todd Blanche's inbox. I don't know if maybe he needs to read his emails a little closer.

00:06:39.520 But if you can walk us through what exactly this report outlined, nothing new, but is the DOJ

00:06:45.520 actually going to do anything about it? Yeah, unfortunately, it doesn't look like it. I mean,

00:06:50.220 And to set expectations here, it's the Department of Justice, not the Department of Marveling at how the liberals kicked our backsides in when Biden was in the White House.

00:06:59.900 OK, so a report. Great. Understanding how the left put Christians in jail.

00:07:06.440 OK, use the force of government to target us, particularly Catholics across the country and at scale. 0.99

00:07:13.980 That's what happened and that deserves justice. That's what President Trump said when he said, I'm your retribution. 0.98

00:07:19.220 And so we're well over a year in. People already know what the Biden administration did to them.

00:07:24.900 They voted for consequences, for accountability, not for reviews. And so I'm disappointed.

00:07:30.500 Of course, these emails are interesting. They prove more of what we already knew.

00:07:33.720 But everybody in this country, everybody who is, you know, a Trump supporter and wants to get activated for the midterms is asking, where is the accountability?

00:07:42.860 And that interview was really illustrative because you have Acting Attorney General Blanche, who I wish well, but he's got a lot to do, just marveling at how the Biden administration and Merrick Garland used the DOJ for their version of accountability.

00:07:55.580 And he is proclaiming, yeah, they worked with a behemoth external structure and a compliant bureaucracy to push through at scale their version of justice.

00:08:06.160 but this Department of Justice just is going to foreclose working with external parties who want

00:08:11.600 to achieve the same things that the president promised. And I'm kind of sitting here wanting

00:08:16.500 to find hope in what's happening, but I stand with everybody who wants accountability for the 2020

00:08:21.860 election, for the persecution of Christians, for what they did to anybody who fought for election

00:08:26.880 integrity down the list. Those are the people who showed up to put Trump in the White House

00:08:31.500 instead of a jail cell and that's what we need to see done yeah there's this weird almost like

00:08:37.660 fetish with being a victim the way that they talk about it with the glee of oh look what the left

00:08:42.360 has has done to us we don't need to give them more free uh unearned or i guess under yeah

00:08:47.420 unearned media on conservative you know television stations hour after hour talking about

00:08:53.000 how wonderfully and epically they were able to not just shepherd government resources but their

00:08:58.020 entire probably taxpayer funded NGO apparatus to, you know, throw all of a lot of the war

00:09:03.100 and posse, putting Steve in prison, it seems like there's sort of a pattern.

00:09:07.360 I know just a few days ago is why I wanted to have you on the show.

00:09:10.460 You know, you've got D&I Gabbard releasing information related to the Ukraine impeachment

00:09:15.320 hoax.

00:09:16.420 There's no shortage of topics that you can, you know, whatever the statute of limitations

00:09:19.920 dive into and find, you know, stuff that basically confirms what I think we've been reporting

00:09:24.800 here in the war room for a very long time.

00:09:27.060 But it seems to kind of follow this similar pattern where, you know, interesting information is thrown out there, the media rounds are done, and then it's done, and nothing really happens.

00:09:38.380 Are you of the mindset that, you know, nothing is going to happen?

00:09:41.680 I'm sure there's some of the audience who would say, Natalie, you need to be patient.

00:09:44.780 You're too young.

00:09:45.560 You need to give them time.

00:09:47.220 But do you think this is a function of time, or do you just not think that we're seeing the gears actually grind toward justice?

00:09:54.060 Well, we're certainly not seeing the gears grind towards justice.

00:09:57.060 I think, could it happen? Yes, absolutely. I mean, there's an opportunity with the shuffle atop of DOJ to either say what happened in the past year and a half wasn't sufficient and this is kind of a change in tactics, or it'll be taken as an opportunity to kind of rebrand and continue the same with, you know, cosmetic modifications at the top.

00:10:15.420 I think that is the fight. And that is the decision that ultimately rests with President Trump. Do you like how things happened the past year and a half? Or do you want more? Do you want the accountability and points sticking on the board? And people need to make their voices heard on that. I mean, this is one of the most, if not the most important job in the administration. And with it comes massive expectations. It's a difficult job. I sympathize with it.

00:10:38.080 It is a hostile territory at DOJ and the FBI, but to declare victory prematurely that these bureaucracies have been reformed and that just naming things that everyone already knew about is victory won't get us to where we need to go.

00:10:52.400 And you're so right, Natalie.

00:10:53.640 There is this deep-seated psychological defect amongst our elites, quote-unquote Republicans, that just pointing to our victim status is somehow fulfilling.

00:11:03.500 And I don't know where it comes from, but it certainly doesn't get us anywhere.

00:11:08.540 The left doesn't have that problem.

00:11:10.260 They put points on the board and they did it in dramatic ways.

00:11:13.400 And they availed themselves of all options to achieve their version of twisted accountability, which, of course, persecuted so many people.

00:11:21.240 And what we're asking for isn't that.

00:11:23.220 We're asking for a correction to the system, for the people who did that, to be held accountable.

00:11:27.300 And that is a very binary test.

00:11:30.460 And right now we're not passing it.

00:11:32.180 But could it be passed? Yes. Does it require changing tactics massively? Yes. Does it require a political overhaul in how we're going about things, an overhaul in legal strategy and ditching these like self-congratulatory document dumps that are not landing and just confirming things we already know? Yes.

00:11:51.620 And so, like, this fight is ongoing. I'm not giving up. The Oversight Project's not giving up. But we're certainly not popping the party poppers and celebrating because some documents that should have been released a year ago hit the Internet.

00:12:02.960 Yeah, I mean, I would posit that a lot of the outrage and uproar against the sort of, you know, podcast media, I think that's supposed to be a denigrating term, I would rather be podcast media than the legacy media, but it's because we sort of shift the goalposts, right, for what accountability looks like, people used to just, you know, go on Fox and cry and complain about what was happening.

00:12:23.700 And that's how you get Trey Gowdy's Benghazi committee.

00:12:26.500 But now we actually have power through this audience to change these outcomes, even as

00:12:30.220 Vice President Vance said in that clip, talking about if there's something the administration

00:12:34.340 does that we don't like, we should let our voices be heard.

00:12:37.780 So you're sort of the expert in shepherding all those voices as the directed energy towards

00:12:43.860 some bigger agenda.

00:12:45.000 What can we do?

00:12:46.240 What can the audience do if they want to see something actually happen on the front we

00:12:50.880 were just talking about or any of these?

00:12:53.700 Yeah. So the first thing is these narratives are meant to divide, right? The truth of the

00:12:59.820 matter and the power we should stand in is President Trump promised a lot of things and

00:13:03.480 the people agreed with them. And we fought to get him back in the White House to achieve those

00:13:07.660 things. And you're seeing big money campaigns like legacy media and others trying to rewrite

00:13:13.000 the history books of what was promised and what was needed to be delivered. The base will determine

00:13:18.180 the midterm elections. The things we fought for, whether it's accountability or mass deportations

00:13:23.600 are the thing that will decide turnout.

00:13:25.560 It's not what the K Street lobbyists will say about tax cuts.

00:13:29.100 No one's talking about tax cuts or marginal tax rates at the bar or anywhere else.

00:13:34.480 They're talking about the meta things,

00:13:36.340 the things as to whether we have a country or not

00:13:38.740 and whether we have control of it right now.

00:13:40.400 And those things are abundantly clear and inarguable

00:13:43.280 as it relates to whether we could kick people out of the country 0.99

00:13:45.540 who came here illegally in the millions

00:13:48.160 or if we can put people behind bars

00:13:51.100 for what they did to us during the Biden years

00:13:53.860 and obviously President Trump as well.

00:13:56.020 Those are going to be the tests

00:13:57.300 that people, when they're deciding

00:13:58.840 whether to get activated,

00:14:00.140 tell their neighbors, their friends,

00:14:01.680 let's do this thing again.

00:14:03.120 Let's go out and vote so these things can happen.

00:14:05.320 We'll decide whether they turn out to the midterms or not

00:14:07.660 and not let the swamp take over this beautiful coalition,

00:14:11.260 this historic coalition

00:14:12.360 that came together behind those principles.

00:14:14.740 And so that's the fight.

00:14:15.900 People need to get loud

00:14:16.900 and not allow these kind of,

00:14:19.520 you sit in your podcast universe or you're not on the team or you're a panic in i'm not a panic in

00:14:24.600 i'm selling hopium because it is hopeful that we can do the things that we said we would do

00:14:30.140 that is the fight and that's what the base should argue and advocate for and organize for every

00:14:35.100 single day i give you can hang with us through the break on a drill down the latest numbers on

00:14:40.740 on all things deportation i know the legacy media has told us we didn't actually know uh what we

00:14:44.980 were voting for on that one. People apparently didn't actually want mass deportations, but I

00:14:49.860 think the Warren Posse would be back to differ. We'll be right back after this short break. More Warren.

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00:17:19.000 we still got mike powell mike before i let you go i just want to give you some runway to kind of give

00:17:25.180 us the latest um on on the deportation front i the mass deportation that's especially specify not

00:17:33.260 just of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens, but it seems like we might be a fledgling

00:17:39.460 or dying minority of that addiction. So lay it out there for me. Yeah. So top of mind,

00:17:46.300 there are two things that don't lie. One, hips don't lie and numbers don't lie. And we're starting

00:17:50.840 to see the deportation numbers, the actual numbers trickle out through some budget documents, right?

00:17:56.040 Over the last year, we've heard all sorts of numbers bandied about. They're in the millions,

00:17:59.260 Millions are self-deporting, and we've kind of called out that that isn't the case over the course.

00:18:03.660 But now we're greeted with an actual number out of DHS, and it's 442,000, okay?

00:18:10.600 And that includes deportations and other things.

00:18:13.660 And so we know deportations are no greater than 442,000 for last year.

00:18:20.120 They're probably in the area of 250, and that is a far cry from the numbers we were told.

00:18:24.600 So what does that mean?

00:18:25.760 That means we've got a lot of work to do.

00:18:27.120 The beauty of it is Congress gave Trump $40 billion to do it, and the vast majority of the population still supports the notion that if you're here illegally, you should be deported. 0.62

00:18:36.740 So there needs to be commas in the numbers.

00:18:38.660 Those are easy to get to, but it requires crossing one threshold in particular, worksite enforcement.

00:18:44.760 This is where the fight is. 0.92

00:18:46.400 Illegals congregate, gather, they're at the worksite. 0.97

00:18:48.920 That's how the system works. 1.00

00:18:50.100 That's why they come here. 1.00

00:18:51.540 You need to deport them from there.

00:18:53.660 The issue is the GOP donors and special interests, the same ones funding the Dignity Act, are trying to undermine that.

00:19:01.480 They're bragging about it publicly, that they can influence the admin to turn off worksite enforcement.

00:19:06.400 So the Mass Deportation Coalition laid out the playbook.

00:19:09.460 It's a national campaign.

00:19:10.860 Get involved.

00:19:11.500 Go to massdeportation.com.

00:19:13.360 Join up with the grassroots, the people who actually voted for this stuff, so we can outpower the special interests trying to water down the mass deportation agenda to end up.

00:19:22.080 It is doable.

00:19:23.280 Trump promised it.

00:19:24.420 He'll be rewarded in the midterms.

00:19:25.920 He'll avoid impeachment if it happens.

00:19:28.000 The numbers need to skyrocket.

00:19:29.700 This country's been overrun.

00:19:31.000 A solution is available.

00:19:33.480 I know it's so frustrating.

00:19:34.920 I remember reading all the articles talking about how mass deportations are so politically

00:19:39.780 unsalient and bad for President Trump.

00:19:42.360 This isn't what the people actually voted for.

00:19:44.500 First of all, the historic landslide victory, I think, definitely suggests otherwise. 0.98

00:19:49.600 But also, do you think the majority of Americans wanted, I don't know, you know, freak transgender folks working in the nuclear energy department, stealing luggage from DCA, running our nation's top energy agencies? 0.96

00:20:02.160 It's like, no, people didn't vote for that. So we're willing to stick our neck out for, you know, trans and kids across this country. 0.94

00:20:08.400 but something that is so foundational to this country, just remaining, I don't know,

00:20:12.220 a country with borders and sovereignty and a national identity that isn't 80 million languages 1.00

00:20:17.420 and H-1Bs floating around everywhere. It's like the most radical thing. 1.00

00:20:22.220 You could, one more time, Mike, if people want to get involved and make sure this

00:20:25.260 issue actually materializes, where can they go to do that?

00:20:29.600 Yeah, massdeportation.com, sign up. If you're part of an organization, join.

00:20:34.080 Wayne, follow us on X at phase two to port. This thing's taken off.

00:20:37.560 It's all over DC right now in terms of we got bus wraps and signage and

00:20:41.540 trucks. We're going to be running ads.

00:20:43.340 It'll be in your communities and is going to break out across the entire

00:20:46.380 country because the energy is there. This is what we were promised.

00:20:49.560 This is what this country needs to survive.

00:20:52.000 We need to show strength in numbers that these like swamp lobbyists can't

00:20:55.940 just rewrite the entire central thesis of why we're all together here today.

00:21:01.380 Indeed. Thank you for joining us.

00:21:03.140 We will move on to the Iran war now.

00:21:07.120 Denver, if you can roll the cold open for Dr. Sayer. 0.70

00:21:10.640 I had to divert because if I didn't do that right now, you would have Iran with a nuclear weapon. 0.63

00:21:18.880 And if they had a nuclear weapon, you would be calling everybody over there, sir. 0.88

00:21:23.240 And you don't want to do that.

00:21:24.380 Well, you keep saying was. Is this war over?

00:21:27.420 I think it's close to over. I mean, I view it as very close to over.

00:21:31.240 You know what? If I pulled up stakes right now, it would take them 20 years to rebuild that country.

00:21:38.900 And we're not finished. We'll see what happens. I think they want to make a deal very badly.

00:21:44.040 That the Pentagon is sending thousands of additional troops to the Middle East in the coming days.

00:21:50.940 Officials tell the paper the Trump administration is still considering additional strikes or possible ground operations if the ceasefire does not hold.

00:22:00.760 President Trump, meanwhile, said yesterday negotiations could resume over the next two days, possibly being held once again in Pakistan's capital.

00:22:11.140 This all comes as the United States military blockade of Iranian ports continues now into its third day in an effort to put economic pressure on Tehran.

00:22:22.840 U.S. Central Command said yesterday that no ships made it past the blockade in the first 24 hours.

00:22:29.780 During the ceasefire, Iran has been working to remove debris, blocking the entrances to underground missile bases.

00:22:35.820 These are satellite images reviewed by CNN, show front end loaders scooping up rubble from the block tunnels and loading it into nearby dump trucks.

00:22:43.020 And sending more troops.

00:22:44.220 One of the lessons that we've learned over the last year in watching him is that very rarely does he send manpower or machinery and not utilize it.

00:22:52.860 And so there's still this assumption that this could get a lot messier.

00:22:55.560 You watch the markets. It seems to be like everyone has moved on and the war has been solved.

00:23:00.100 I hope that they hope that to be true. But I think people need to be clear eyed that this could still spiral in very bad directions.

00:23:06.940 Yeah. And, you know, the Wall Street Journal does following up on Jim's point.

00:23:11.160 While there is optimism, the Wall Street Journal this morning reporting that the leaders had been replaced in Iran. 0.66

00:23:20.220 The new group is even more hostile to the United States, if that's possible, even more radical, even more militarized and also even even even more extreme when it comes to to their their view of the world through their their religion. 0.64

00:23:39.300 I I'm not very optimistic. I think there's two kind of core questions here.

00:23:44.500 Who benefits from dragging the process out? 1.00

00:23:47.820 Time is on the side of Iranians. 1.00

00:23:49.280 It absolutely is on the side of the Iranians. 1.00

00:23:50.740 And the second is which side can endure the most suffering and most pain. 0.82

00:23:55.260 And I think clearly the Iranians have proven that as well. 0.67

00:24:00.660 I know this idea that the blockade so ships can't come. 0.98

00:24:03.780 I mean, this is a country that's been had tens of thousands of bombs dropped on it the last month. 0.97

00:24:08.540 The idea that it's going to somehow kneel down because of the naval blockade, I think, is is silly.

00:24:14.600 The idea that this is now an economic, potentially economic pain being inflicted on Iran, we've inflicted military pain on them.

00:24:25.000 That hasn't really worked to cow them or have a regime change that actually results in something.

00:24:30.960 You don't think economic pain is going to do that.

00:24:32.520 The economy was already in a shambles.

00:24:34.860 That's what led to the to the demonstrations and the killings in January.

00:24:39.800 I think that I think that the regime I think if you go back and I think it's important to look at what happened in January, that the regime, there was demonstrations against the regime for 10 days that were largely peaceful.

00:24:51.780 They were metastasizing in size. Finally, the government reached a point where it thought it was going to go down.

00:24:57.160 So they they killed 30 to 40,000 people in one weekend. They see their back against the wall.

00:25:03.880 And as Ms. Sherman said, they need to feel like they're getting something out of any sort of negotiated settlement.

00:25:11.500 And they don't have much to give because they could be overthrown by the people and they'd be slaughtered.

00:25:20.060 Back in the war room, lots of noise, not a lot of signal.

00:25:24.740 I want to bring on Dr. Bradley Thayer to help us distill all of that.

00:25:28.740 Dr. Thayer, if you can sort of walk us through the latest that we see going down in Iran after

00:25:33.640 the break. We've got a few minutes. We can kind of chill down more from the China perspective,

00:25:36.980 but just your bird's eye view of everything that's going down the Strait of Hormuz,

00:25:41.540 you know, the prospect of boots on the ground, where do you think we stand?

00:25:45.500 Thanks, Natalie. Great to join you again. The blockade is holding that the U.S. military said

00:25:53.900 more vessels are being turned back regularly, including a U.S.-sanctioned Chinese-owned

00:26:00.620 tanker, the Rich Starry. The Wall Street Journal reports that eight Iran-linked oil tankers have

00:26:08.200 been intercepted since the blockade began on Monday. So it seems that the blockade is extremely

00:26:15.240 effective at monitoring and stopping Iranian shipping, which is so important. Al Jazeera 0.93

00:26:25.060 is reporting, it's just breaking now, that the Iranian media are reporting a Pakistani delegation

00:26:31.820 is on its way to Tehran, and that delegation contains a message from the U.S. regarding

00:26:40.020 the war and the prospect of restarting negotiations, face-to-face negotiations.

00:26:48.660 And you'll note that President Trump told Jonathan Karl of ABC News that the next two

00:26:53.680 days are going to be two amazing days.

00:26:56.300 So in addition to what he said to Maria Bartiromo, he's signaling through Jonathan Karl that

00:27:03.280 perhaps things are going to come to a head very quickly.

00:27:06.960 At the same time, as you noted, U.S. forces continue to flow to the region. And that's the stick, right? That's the coercive element. If Iran does something in continuing the war, breaks the ceasefire, attacks U.S. vessels, U.S. military assets or our allies, prodigious U.S. military powers in the region to restart the war.

00:27:34.560 and the Iranians have revealed, I'm sure, new military targets in addition to the economic 0.54

00:27:41.000 targets which President Trump said he might strike if Iran continues the war. So a lot is 0.53

00:27:48.500 happening. There's the prospect of the resolution which President Trump has conveyed and

00:27:55.420 perhaps the message from the Pakistanis are carrying to Tehran will bear fruit, 0.93

00:28:03.000 But the stick is there, too, as well. 0.98

00:28:06.660 We'll pick up on all that.

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00:30:45.880 there. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I know you're just getting into the sort of the second and

00:30:49.960 third order effects of all this. So feel free to pick up where you left off, but also the China 0.87

00:30:54.420 layer on all this, where you see that standing. Right, Natalie. And it's very important, of

00:30:59.920 course. President Trump did also say that he had sent a letter to Xi Jinping, the leader of China,

00:31:08.540 asking the PRC not to send any military weapons to Iran, and that Xi had replied to that letter

00:31:18.020 saying that the PRC would not send military weapons to Iran. Now, whenever Xi Jinping

00:31:28.860 says something like that, you always have to apply the Mary McCarthy rule, right? Every word he says

00:31:34.560 is a lie, including and and the. We know that the PRC was supplying surface-to-air missiles,

00:31:42.660 man-portable surface-to-air missiles to Iran. There's suspicion that fuel for Iran's

00:31:50.940 liquid fuel ballistic missiles were still being supplied by China during this war.

00:31:57.340 The Financial Times reports today that in late 2024, China had supplied Iran with a spy satellite, which Iran has been using to target U.S. bases and allied bases during this campaign.

00:32:17.400 So when Xi Jinping is saying that he's not going to supply weapons, given the poor record of communist China in that regard, we want to look at that, obviously, discount that with a major dose of the Mary McCarthy rule.

00:32:33.160 he has every incentive to lie, although I'd expect him to be on his best behavior before

00:32:39.020 the meeting in May, when President Trump and Xi Jinping will meet in communist China in mid-May. 0.68

00:32:47.440 So the PRC aspect of it is extremely important, not only because of the weapons that China

00:32:55.720 supplied in the past and continues to supply, but also because they're instrumental in backing

00:33:02.700 the regime in Tehran. So the communist China wrinkle element of this is extremely important.

00:33:13.600 And can you expand a little bit more on the upcoming visit, how you think this sort of

00:33:18.020 plays into all that? Well, President Trump and Xi Jinping want to have a positive meeting

00:33:27.200 in mid-May. So I would expect that between now and then, Xi Jinping is going to do his utmost to

00:33:35.380 at least provide reassurances that China is not supplying the military weapons,

00:33:42.440 that it's working assiduously with the United States to bring the conflict to an end,

00:33:47.880 that it's coordinating with the U.S. Navy and other navies with respect to oil tankers exiting

00:33:55.920 or entering the Strait of Hormuz.

00:33:59.740 So China will be on its best behavior until that meeting. 0.61

00:34:03.280 After that meeting, of course, China is going to revert to normal, 0.78

00:34:07.080 which is to thwart us in every way, shape, and form. 0.97

00:34:11.860 And we always want to keep in mind what their promises were, right,

00:34:15.320 with respect to fentanyl or with respect to promises they've made in the cyber realm, right,

00:34:20.000 to stop cyber attacks or to stop penetrations. 0.70

00:34:25.920 And they have a record of breaking their promises to us, which we should expect because we're dealing with a communist government.

00:34:38.240 And I want to pivot, speaking of communist governments, to what's going down in Ireland and in Oregon with that. 0.73

00:34:43.680 What is the latest that we're seeing there with the protests, the vote of no confidence, all that?

00:34:49.820 Well, importantly, the protests are continuing.

00:34:52.640 the protests, which began last Tuesday, have expanded and they've grown. Yesterday, the Irish

00:35:00.100 government survived a vote of North of no confidence and survived it comfortably. So the

00:35:07.580 Irish government is not going to fall. They're going to continue to govern and to continue to

00:35:15.000 employ the EU policies with respect not only to taxation and not only with respect to fuel

00:35:25.600 taxes, which have been temporarily reduced, but also on immigration, which is the key

00:35:33.120 element. The EU seeks to, of course, import millions upon millions of individuals from

00:35:41.900 around the world into the EU and to Ireland as well. A nation of 5 million people, just over 5

00:35:49.120 million people, has about at least one in five, if not one in four, members of that population

00:35:57.100 are foreign-born. So Ireland's population demographics are changing rapidly and have

00:36:03.620 been changing very quickly over the last decade and a half. That's being accelerated by the

00:36:09.840 European Union. In late January of this year, the EU signed with Modi's government in India

00:36:17.680 a pact that makes possible the movement of Indians to the EU. Ireland is going to be a top

00:36:27.540 destination for those individuals. The pact will come into effect next year because Ireland is

00:36:35.720 English-speaking, it's close to the UK. It's got a tech industry, well-established tech industry,

00:36:43.120 and the possibility of gaining citizenship, EU citizenship, is easiest in Ireland.

00:36:50.940 So we should expect that the problems that Ireland has demographically with respect to

00:36:57.740 rapid population change are only going to be accelerated by that agreement. So the protests,

00:37:05.280 which have started, we should expect to continue. The big problem there, Natalie, is it's very

00:37:11.380 difficult to convert a protest movement into actual political power, particularly because

00:37:16.820 the EU and their minions in the Irish government have done their utmost to weaken populist parties

00:37:25.200 and have also worked very hard to ensure that populist leaders don't rise, don't have an effect.

00:37:36.160 So there's a very significant gap between the popular resistance, which is massive and which

00:37:43.120 is growing, and the ability to actually affect change in Ireland. You have in the Irish government

00:37:50.800 Tweedledum and Tweedledee ruling with the two major parties. Sinn Féin, of course, with a

00:37:57.800 storied history of a nationalist resistance to the British and elsewhere, has become a product of the

00:38:05.260 EU as well, has become a socialist product and is worse even than the two parties that presently

00:38:11.260 govern Ireland. So it's very difficult to convert that popular movement into political change.

00:38:16.680 And that's why it's so important to bring up really a new party with new leaders who are going to be able to combat the European Union.

00:38:28.000 But time is short because immigration is not stopped, right?

00:38:32.600 The rule of the EU is endless immigration with, you know, seemingly in perpetuity as they do their utmost to change the population dynamics in Europe.

00:38:46.400 So Ireland is at risk of, as many folks have talked about with respect to the U.K., it's also true in Ireland.

00:38:53.740 It's a great risk.

00:38:54.640 Its stability is a great risk.

00:38:59.140 Dr. Fair, can you just give me one to two more minutes on what you think the White House needs to take away from these protests, especially on the immigration issue?

00:39:09.800 Well, certainly.

00:39:10.540 I think there's a warning. What the White House, I think, is recognizing, because there are very good people in the White House and in the State Department who are working on this issue, is that the EU is de facto becoming a destabilizing force for Europe as they accelerate immigration, endless immigration, into that continent.

00:39:36.600 And so that holds at risk the NATO alliance, U.S. commitment to European security, the stability of European states, and also the sustainment of Western civilization.

00:39:52.340 So everything upon which the United States really was founded and to which we recognize as a key aspect of our identity, Western civilization is under threat by the EU.

00:40:05.060 It's not Moscow, which is threatening it. It's Brussels, which is doing its utmost to erase it as the national security strategy of the United States, which was released in early December of last year, identify.

00:40:21.700 It's a very significant problem, and it is threatening the stability of the Atlantic Alliance. It's supremely reckless. Western civilization is not for Brussels, Ursula von der Leyen and her cadres to destroy. It doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the United States as well as Europe, and they don't get to destroy it.

00:40:49.600 The U.S. gets a vote, and so we should think seriously about if they're going to pursue endless immigration, a variety of economic tools we can bring to bear, diplomatic measures we can bring to bear, and some other elements as well in terms of pressure we can bring to bear.

00:41:10.400 Tariffing them if they're not going to change their immigration policy makes a lot of sense to me.

00:41:15.640 So they're going to pay an economic price if they're going to continue such a reckless and destructive policy.

00:41:23.900 And it's going to be getting worse.

00:41:25.720 It's not going to be getting better.

00:41:28.280 All of the governments in Europe, Irish government doesn't have to face an election until January of 2030.

00:41:34.260 Keir Starmer's government doesn't have to face an election until August of 2029.

00:41:39.840 Uh, Carney's government in Canada, not until 2029, uh, as well. So these policies are going

00:41:46.200 to continue if the Trump administration, uh, working with good folks in Europe aren't able to,

00:41:52.920 uh, uh, to, uh, to reverse them. And Dr. Thayer, just give me one more minute before I got to let

00:41:59.980 you go. Why is the legacy media really covering this at all? Well, uh, obviously because it's

00:42:07.240 part of the agenda, right? They don't want to call any attention to these, whether the protests

00:42:13.860 in Ireland or the demographic change in Europe or in Canada and Australia and in the United States

00:42:22.740 as well, because they work in lockstep really with the political movement, which is executing

00:42:31.960 these changes. So as a consequence, you're not going to have these issues discussed. You've got

00:42:38.260 good folks like Mike Howell and the Oversight Project and Rosemary Jenks, of course, and other

00:42:43.560 good folks who appear on the war room and who are working this issue globally. But we can't rely on

00:42:51.980 the media, of course. They're not going to call any attention to it because they want it to continue

00:42:56.800 and they want to facilitate it.

00:43:00.020 So that's why they're celebrating Orban's loss this Sunday

00:43:04.560 and why they ignore so many critical stories.

00:43:09.880 It's one of the largest stories, of course, of the last decades,

00:43:14.300 the population change in Europe, the U.S., Canada, Australia.

00:43:18.480 And yet, of course, as you identified, Natalie, they don't cover it.

00:43:22.800 They want to ignore it because they want it to continue.

00:43:26.800 Of course. If people want to keep reading your stuff, stay up to date with everything you're working on real quick.

00:43:31.800 Where can they go to do that?

00:43:34.400 Natalie, great to join you. Brad Therrett X or Bradley Therrett Truth and on Getter.

00:43:41.200 Thank you, sir, for joining us. We'll be right back.

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Bannon's War Room - April 15, 2026

Episode 5301： I Am Your Retribution; Going After The Lawfare Against Christians

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