Bannon's War Room - Episode 5303： Victory For MAGA Against Live Nation And Ticketmaster Monopoly

00:00:00.000 Jurors in a federal antitrust trial just found that Live Nation and Ticketmaster operated as a monopoly, driving up fees for fans.

00:00:08.500 CNN chief media analyst Brian Stelter joins us now over the phone with details.

00:00:12.120 So, Brian, what did the jury determine?

00:00:14.580 Today, on the fourth day of deliberation, this Manhattan jury delivered the verdict that Live Nation and Ticketmaster have been trying to avoid for years.

00:00:21.960 This has been going on for a long time.

00:00:23.620 But this jury today, it said the music industry giant did operate as a monopoly in its dominance of the live events and ticketing industry.

00:00:31.740 You know, this is a very complex trial.

00:00:33.220 But the bottom line is that Live Nation was found to be stifling competition and driving up fees for fans.

00:00:39.600 CNN's Karis Connell is at the courthouse right now.

00:00:41.620 She says the jury's being dismissed.

00:00:43.200 And the next step is a remedies trial, along with a review of the federal government settlement.

00:00:47.740 And that's one of the most important subplots here.

00:00:49.980 The federal government originally teamed up with lots of state attorneys general to bring this blockbuster case.

00:00:56.240 But then Live Nation did a lot of lobbying, lobbying the Trump administration hard.

00:01:00.120 And the Justice Department reached a settlement deal.

00:01:02.700 So they struck a deal, but the state AGs continued to fight in court.

00:01:06.880 That's why this trial went on.

00:01:08.660 That's why this jury delivered this verdict today.

00:01:10.720 So it shows a divide in America between the federal government and the state-level attorneys general.

00:01:15.740 And that's a divide we're probably going to continue to see as the Trump administration appears to be more lenient on big business.

00:01:21.920 But the state-level attorneys general, they are still bringing these cases.

00:01:28.380 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:33.500 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:38.560 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:42.860 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:44.760 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:46.220 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:01:47.980 but you're not going to stop it.

00:01:48.920 It's going to happen.

00:01:50.180 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:53.580 MAGA media.

00:01:54.960 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:00.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:03.480 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:10.400 War Room.

00:02:11.340 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:02:14.360 it's wednesday 15 april in the year of our lord uh 2026 it's the ides of april it's tax day

00:02:24.380 we're going to get into that things over the justice department uh scott besson at the white

00:02:29.200 house um lots to break down today but we've got to start with this blockbuster case that we've

00:02:35.380 been tracking very closely as you know really over the past couple of years particularly when

00:02:40.380 the federal government took it on first. Jonathan Scarmetti, the attorney general of Tennessee and

00:02:46.460 one of the leading voices in this. So Attorney General Scarmetti, can you just break down the

00:02:52.480 fact we had this as a, I guess, a federal case at first with the federal government taking charge of

00:02:58.620 it. You guys were somehow involved, but the Trump administration, folks over there settled with

00:03:05.980 Live Nation and Ticketmaster. A lot of people didn't think that protected the consumer enough.

00:03:12.500 A number of these heroic attorney generals stepped into the breach. Just walk us through

00:03:16.140 how did we get to this position? Then what was presented by trial that you guys presented? And

00:03:22.160 what did the jury come? I think they were out for, what, five or six days. What did the jury

00:03:25.640 come back today and say? And why is it important? Sure. So, you know, this is a monopoly that's been

00:03:31.860 going on for decades. This is one of the worst monopolies in America. And it was the Biden

00:03:37.560 administration, actually, that started it with a bipartisan group of state AGs. You know, on these

00:03:42.180 cases, usually DOJ takes the lead. The states help. We provide some lawyers. We provide some

00:03:47.020 moral support. But usually it's a DOJ case. And that's what this started as. And it continued

00:03:52.280 into the Trump administration, where we were helping, but DOJ was, you know, carrying most

00:03:57.920 of the wait. And then we got to trial. We had some state folks on the trial team. DOJ was leading at

00:04:02.860 the trial. And then DOJ settled the case a week into the trial. And, you know, we were confronted

00:04:09.580 with having to try to pick up the pieces. We'd done a little bit of work in case things went

00:04:14.180 awry. And so we were able to just go ahead and keep doing the trial. It was a bipartisan coalition

00:04:19.380 of states. And the jury came back. They deliberated for four days. They said Ticketmaster and Live

00:04:25.200 nation do have an illegal monopoly. They're violating federal and state antitrust laws.

00:04:30.520 And now we're going to go to the judge for the remedies phase. And a breakup is on the table.

00:04:35.020 We're going to see if we can break up these companies and protect American consumers.

00:04:41.620 Let me go back. What was it about the settlement that the Trump administration, Trump's DOJ at the

00:04:46.780 time presented that you and a number of, and like you said, it is bipartisan, said, I don't know if

00:04:53.180 that gets us there. We want to continue on. And people should know these trials are prepared

00:04:57.500 in such detail to just jump in the middle of a major antitrust lawsuit is not something state

00:05:04.980 AGs do every day. So what was it about the settlement that you folks just said, I don't

00:05:10.320 know, we'll take a shot. We may not be as prepared as the federal government, but we'll jump in here

00:05:14.620 and we'll continue with the trial. It didn't solve the problem. That's the bottom line.

00:05:20.220 You know, they've had a consent decree for 16 years, and they violated it over and over

00:05:26.740 and over again.

00:05:27.740 That's why they ended up in trial.

00:05:29.600 And the settlement made a few little changes at the margins.

00:05:34.720 It did a few things to help consumers.

00:05:37.040 But our view of it was, if we enter this agreement, it's just kicking the can down the road.

00:05:41.160 We're going to be back in court against these guys because they've shown that they won't

00:05:44.960 abide by conditions that restrict their monopoly.

00:05:48.920 this was just kind of nibbling at the edges. And we thought, we got to take a shot at actually

00:05:53.460 putting this thing to bed. Otherwise, they're just going to keep bleeding consumers every time

00:05:58.220 they want to go to an event. And not just consumers, but the folks who put on the shows.

00:06:04.260 Talk to us, what do you think you presented at trial that got the jury? They're now putting

00:06:08.820 up online some of the jury answer cards. But as you guys ran this, what did you think were your

00:06:15.060 most powerful points to a jury of essentially average American citizens?

00:06:21.660 So the number one piece of evidence here was internal communications between two executives

00:06:28.080 at the company about how stupid consumers were and how much they were ripping them off.

00:06:32.840 And, you know, the CEO testified, he held up all right, but there was a lot of damaging

00:06:37.780 evidence there.

00:06:38.580 There were people from venues talking about the, you know, mafia-like tactics that Ticketmaster

00:06:44.520 and Live Nation would use to bully them to keep them from going with any competitors.

00:06:50.020 But I think it was really just the naked revelation of how much contempt people within the company

00:06:56.160 had for their customers.

00:06:57.660 That surely had to be a big part of the jury's decision.

00:07:02.660 You know, people have argued, people that are monopolists or like the concentration

00:07:06.960 of power that said that the issues that you deal with in these cases are so complicated

00:07:12.160 about the economies of scale and what American companies have to do

00:07:17.260 to compete on a global basis, that, quite frankly, is just too much.

00:07:21.440 It's too technical.

00:07:23.940 There's too much information.

00:07:25.600 You have to have too much kind of business experience,

00:07:28.040 capital markets experience, global experience to understand this,

00:07:31.620 and you can't possibly put it to a jury of just average American citizens

00:07:36.220 because there'll be some emotional decision that I'll make.

00:07:39.580 Your thoughts on that are one of the arguments we're hearing from the corporatists of why these should not be allowed to go to juries.

00:07:47.840 You have to have guardrails on the law so it's not just a popularity contest.

00:07:52.360 But at the heart of every one of these cases, there's a story to tell about the concentration of power and big companies taking advantage of their customers.

00:08:01.860 Competition is a beautiful thing.

00:08:03.220 Competition is the heart of capitalism.

00:08:05.820 And if you don't have competition, you don't get the benefits of capitalism.

00:08:09.580 And, you know, people suffer. People pay more. People get lower quality. And folks aren't stupid. You know, there's a lot of math that's involved sometimes in proving up these cases. But sometimes it's just a matter of saying the company could do whatever it wanted to you because you didn't have any options because they constrain those options. I think that's what happened here.

00:08:31.840 It's been a long time since a jury took a civil antitrust case.

00:08:36.140 That's pretty unusual.

00:08:37.920 But here there was a story to tell.

00:08:39.940 The jury clearly understood it.

00:08:42.440 And it showed in a very clear way a company that viewed its customers as folks to be exploited and not folks to be served.

00:08:52.820 In fact, I think that was one of the big things.

00:08:54.820 People thought the government would never really take this to the trial.

00:08:57.720 You mentioned something, Attorney General, at the beginning of this or in the middle of it when you said breakup.

00:09:05.240 You now go to what's called, I guess, the penalties phase.

00:09:08.360 Now you go back in front of the judge and the jury and you make another argument about what the penalty should be here.

00:09:14.300 Are we actually talking because we're a huge advocate in the war room of breaking up Ticketmaster and Live Nation.

00:09:21.820 In fact, they should be breaking up the venues, too, into different categories.

00:09:25.200 But just walk us through the process.

00:09:27.440 What is next?

00:09:30.120 Yeah, so next we do go in front of the judge again.

00:09:33.120 There will be a whole other round of discovery.

00:09:35.300 There will be more briefing.

00:09:36.380 There will be arguments about what will fix this monopoly now the jury said it is an illegal monopoly.

00:09:43.120 And, you know, a breakup, I think, is the only way that we actually solve this.

00:09:47.980 I think anything short of that, and they're going to keep using the leverage from one side to make the other side break their way.

00:09:55.160 And we'll just be right back here in a few years.

00:09:57.700 It's been 45 years since an antitrust case resulted in a company breaking up.

00:10:02.680 It's been a long time.

00:10:03.720 This is a very rare remedy.

00:10:05.840 But in this case, given these facts, given the history here, I think it's warranted.

00:10:10.940 And we're going to push for it.

00:10:12.760 I don't see anything short of that that's going to actually solve this problem.

00:10:17.960 I mean, that's pretty stunning right now when attorney generals, particularly from conservative

00:10:22.880 states are saying hey this thing is too much concentration of power you guys have been warned

00:10:27.740 people try to work with you you've had a consent decree you you've broken it all the time and if

00:10:31.880 we have to we're actually going to use state power to break it up that's going to send a shock

00:10:36.980 to wall street corporate america and capital markets this is not

00:10:40.820 you know it it might but america was built around opposition to the concentration of power

00:10:49.660 And our liberty depends on not being under the thumb of people who don't have to worry about being held accountable.

00:10:56.280 And that applies to government, but it also applies in the corporate world.

00:11:00.520 You know, competition is what made us great.

00:11:02.360 Competition is what keeps us great.

00:11:04.660 And we need to make sure that we continue to enforce market opportunities in every industry.

00:11:11.900 Ticketing is not the be-all, end-all.

00:11:13.380 There are more important industries out there.

00:11:15.200 But this was a bad monopoly.

00:11:16.760 This is a chance to fix it.

00:11:17.960 And it's a chance to set an example and let companies know that if they think they can just keep getting away with it over and over and over again, there's going to be a big price to pay at the end of the day.

00:11:29.140 Attorney General, before we go, you know, Nashville is, I would argue, the second most and quickly becoming maybe the most important entertainment center of the country.

00:11:40.840 As you go around the state, and you're not there for a popularity contest, what do you like, what do you don't like, but what do you hear from citizens in Tennessee about this case?

00:11:50.600 Are they paying attention?

00:11:51.960 Is this something that, and particularly in Nashville, is this something that's top drawer as far as their thinking goes?

00:11:58.200 A lot of people are paying attention.

00:11:59.920 A lot of people have been really enthusiastic about it when they're talking to me.

00:12:03.760 But the most striking thing about this is how scared people have been to testify.

00:12:08.020 Getting witnesses in this case was harder than I've ever seen it because everybody was terrified

00:12:12.580 if they got on the wrong side of the monopoly, they wouldn't have a job.

00:12:15.860 They wouldn't be able to make money.

00:12:17.760 So, you know, the biggest indicator to me was how people would say privately that they

00:12:22.680 loved what we're doing, but nobody wanted to go on the record about it.

00:12:28.380 Wow.

00:12:29.620 Attorney General, thank you so much.

00:12:31.420 How can people follow this?

00:12:32.760 Because I will tell you, there's intense interest in this case.

00:12:36.020 I think it's also about other issues on the concentration of power, but particularly this one.

00:12:41.060 And I will tell you, there are many people that never thought this day would come.

00:12:44.260 And particularly when the federal government decided to cut a deal that I believe a lot of people thought was way too easy on the company.

00:12:50.720 People never thought this day would come.

00:12:52.220 So congratulations from everybody.

00:12:54.080 And it took real courage, tenacity and grit.

00:12:57.160 And particularly you guys a little bit rolled the dice taking the case up when it's already in trial.

00:13:03.000 If you ever know trial lawyers and these types of litigation, it's almost like a movie script.

00:13:09.380 So where do people go to find out more about you, more about the case, social media, all of it, sir?

00:13:15.020 Yeah, we'll get stuff up on our Twitter feed or our X feed at AG Tennessee.

00:13:21.000 We'll make sure we get plenty up about this case.

00:13:23.380 I'm very happy to talk about it.

00:13:25.060 I'm so proud of our team on this.

00:13:27.180 And you're right, this never happens.

00:13:29.400 I've never heard of a trial team switching in the middle of a trial.

00:13:33.620 Never.

00:13:34.360 This is a movie script.

00:13:35.500 It really is.

00:13:36.060 It was, and when the jury was out for so long,

00:13:38.220 I said, man, something's really up here.

00:13:39.980 So just incredible what you guys did.

00:13:41.840 And we will work with you guys,

00:13:44.020 get the full story out

00:13:44.920 because it's quite heroic.

00:13:46.380 And I think what people elect people to do

00:13:48.860 is to look out for the common good,

00:13:50.980 look out for what's the best interest of the country.

00:13:53.760 And I think here it's just fantastic.

00:13:56.280 Attorney General, thank you so much for joining us, sir.

00:13:59.140 Thanks, Steve.

00:13:59.820 the good guys won the risk if you talk these power law firms and this when when a trial of

00:14:09.080 this complexity starts and you're kind of the backup you know you're like you've been doing

00:14:17.100 some of the analytical work and trying to get uh and trying to get people to testify

00:14:20.840 but your lead lawyers just say no we're selling the case and we're going to walk

00:14:26.180 it's unprecedented what happened here it's also I think an indication of

00:14:32.120 American citizens folks just like you when they get into they get into the

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00:14:45.620 capital markets the little guy's got to say so here and sometimes you're not

00:14:50.900 going to like to say so. Short commercial break. Back in the warm in a moment.

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00:16:25.160 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:30.280 Okay, the great Lena Kahn, let me read you. She put up on Twitter.

00:16:33.700 For years, Ticketmaster Live Nation has abused its power against musicians, fans, and venues,

00:16:38.980 dominating the live music industry while worsening it for everyone else.

00:16:42.560 This jury verdict holding the company violated state and federal antitrust laws

00:16:47.260 is a key first step towards ending Live Nation's monopolistic control

00:16:51.220 and securing real relief for those at home.

00:16:54.660 Congratulations to the state attorney general who kept litigating the case

00:16:58.760 after the Trump DOJ settled cheaply and bailed.

00:17:02.280 This has much bigger implications than just the live music business.

00:17:08.320 There is way too much concentration of power.

00:17:11.860 It really started during the Obama administration and then Biden turbocharged it.

00:17:17.740 We are neo-Brandeisians.

00:17:19.960 We don't believe in the concentration of private and state power that gets into a system of government like the Chinese Communist Party has.

00:17:27.840 And right now, whether it is big agriculture, big pharma, the lords of easy money on Wall Street, whether it's the big tech guys, the oligarchs, there's way too much concentration power and we have to go after it and go after it hard.

00:17:43.280 in the state attorneys general for the risk they took to step in after the after the trial had

00:17:49.240 started and the government settled and you turn to these guys that have kind of been your backup

00:17:55.700 your hop lights and say because you just assume they're going to go on settlement too and these

00:18:00.260 guys put their heads together and say no we're not going to do it we're going to go to step into a

00:18:03.860 middle of a trial like that is unheard of this is a highly Hollywood script and for the jurors to

00:18:10.760 sit there, average citizens just like yourself, to listen to the complexity of this because it's

00:18:15.880 quite complex, and then to take four days and render a verdict that is, no, this is an illegal

00:18:22.140 monopoly, and now they go to the phase of breaking it up, and it must be broken up, and there's so

00:18:26.660 many other companies that need to be broken up in this country. That gets you back to true

00:18:31.760 capitalism. That gets you back to entrepreneurial capitalism. The scale of globalism, globalization,

00:18:37.200 you see it play out that the concentration of wealth and power and it is destroying our country

00:18:43.480 and so this was one against the swamp and just absolutely amazing we're going to cover this

00:18:50.240 we have a lot more of the ags on want to thank tennessee scarmetti just did a fantastic job the

00:18:56.240 entire team there in tennessee we're going to have more of the folks on here and obviously focus on

00:19:01.080 the penalty phase which must be break up the company break up the company long time coming

00:19:07.320 Mo, we've got a, what's happening since I've gotten back to the Imperial Capitol,

00:19:12.480 I've really been overwhelmed with people talking about grassroots energy out in the hinterland

00:19:16.460 because inside the Imperial Capitol, they're sitting there going, wow, what's going on?

00:19:22.260 What's going on is victory after victory.

00:19:24.320 If people are inspired and they use their agency in the Commonwealth of Virginia,

00:19:29.620 it has been nothing short of heroic.

00:19:32.240 80 million dollars spent against him on this power grab uh totally lied the the the spanberger

00:19:39.760 totally lied to people about this and it's a a gross um miscarriage of justice here and really

00:19:46.940 takes away representative government and beings that the commonwealth of which i'm a native of

00:19:52.380 is the cradle of the revolution it is outrageous in our 250th year we'll be doing this it's just

00:19:57.620 an insult and that's why people have kind of they're they're they're riding to the sound of

00:20:02.640 the guns and what they're doing is fantastic this sunday from four o'clock to seven you never know

00:20:10.360 it may stay a little later may start a little earlier we're having in hanover virginia a thank

00:20:15.680 you but also a strategy session early voting will end on saturday we're going to have this gathering

00:20:21.440 it's not going to be a rally not going to just be up there in speeches not going to say you're not

00:20:25.040 going to be passive. You're going to be active, active, active, active. I'm going to have a get

00:20:29.360 together and lots of people are going to attend. We'll announce those later. But right now, I want

00:20:33.760 you to sign up for a ticket. Come and enjoy camaraderie. Just come and hang out. Maybe you'll

00:20:40.160 learn a thing or two about where things are going. It'll also get people ready for Tuesday. And

00:20:45.460 they're going to be tremendous grassroots leaders throughout the state that have made this happen.

00:20:49.220 Mo Bannon. And Mo Bannon will be there as master of ceremony. She's putting this on. So

00:20:54.900 So, Mo, where do people go?

00:20:56.540 The ticket request so far is really overwhelming, but we'd love that.

00:21:03.060 And we'll expand.

00:21:03.620 It's going to be free food, free drink, all of it.

00:21:06.980 All you have to do is bring yourself and bring your family.

00:21:11.140 So it's been really overwhelming.

00:21:13.380 So where do people go, Mo, to get all the details and to sign up?

00:21:18.340 You can go to warroomvarally.eventbrite.com.

00:21:23.220 That's all one word.

00:21:24.900 the war room VA rally is all one word dot eventbrite.com to RSVP for your ticket for your

00:21:32.240 family members tickets. We highly encourage everyone in the state of Virginia that can make

00:21:37.400 it out that day to attend. Like you said, it is this Sunday, April 19th from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m.

00:21:44.740 There will be a lot of grassroots people there. Myself, you, a few other key people that have been

00:21:52.960 on the show recently will be there speaking. And once again, early voting ends in Virginia on

00:21:59.800 Saturday, but this is a, we said rally, but more of motivation, grassroots to get out Tuesday if

00:22:08.580 you haven't already early voted and also a way ahead for November. And Tuesday, for Tuesday,

00:22:17.840 election day, and then for November, it's a gathering. It's going to be interactive. You're

00:22:22.720 have lots of fun and maybe even participate. We're going to do some cold calls and some

00:22:26.680 open mic and all that. Mo, one more time, where do people go?

00:22:30.960 They go to warroomvarally.eventbrite.com, warroomvarally.eventbrite.com. And this is for,

00:22:39.640 this is a thank you for the grassroots, for all your effort, door knocking, phone banking,

00:22:44.820 sitting at the polls. You know, there are people that have been on the show that are sitting

00:22:49.980 at the polling locations for days on end,

00:22:53.640 making sure that people are aware

00:22:55.320 of what is going on in the state of Virginia.

00:22:58.220 And we're going to get some big names there too.

00:23:00.380 So you'll meet and greet

00:23:01.120 and be able to handshake and take photos, selfies.

00:23:04.460 Okay, Mo, thank you so much.

00:23:06.440 Appreciate you.

00:23:07.080 We'll see you on tomorrow morning show.

00:23:09.940 Thank you.

00:23:10.520 I want to thank Natalie and Joe Allen

00:23:12.000 for stepping in today, the entire team.

00:23:13.660 I had some very important meetings,

00:23:14.920 which you'll hear more about later, I'm sure.

00:23:17.300 Let's go and play.

00:23:18.040 I want to get this Todd Blanche.

00:23:19.500 They're all over Todd because he's saying the president of the United States definitely has a say-so.

00:23:23.960 And what goes over it now, it runs a little long for the break.

00:23:26.940 I'll jump in here at the end, but let's go ahead and see.

00:23:29.100 The MSNBC is in total meltdown about this, a total meltdown about Todd Blanche making these comments about the president of the United States and his Article II powers.

00:23:37.400 Let's go ahead and see it.

00:23:39.060 They're essentially asking to wipe away these convictions so that it's almost as if it never happened.

00:23:44.380 And they're not explaining to the public why they want to do this, what was wrong with these prosecutions,

00:23:48.680 because these people were convicted by juries after mountains of evidence that they conspired

00:23:54.720 to try to stop the certification of the votes that day.

00:23:57.740 And the Justice Department didn't do this lightly.

00:23:59.520 There were high-level meetings about whether to bring this serious charge of seditious conspiracy.

00:24:04.040 It went all the way up to the attorney general.

00:24:05.900 And they did it sparingly, only in these particular cases.

00:24:09.480 We're talking about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.

00:24:11.960 And the leaders of those organizations weren't even on scene in January 6th,

00:24:15.020 But there is a lot of evidence showing that they were communicating and conspiring.

00:24:19.540 And Donald Trump, as you said, did not actually pardon those people, which suggested that even he didn't want to go quite that far.

00:24:26.280 But now they want to wipe these convictions away. It's really amazing.

00:24:29.040 And I think what they perceive is the ability to erase January 6th.

00:24:33.660 We've seen this on the on the White House website. It describes it as a day of patriotism.

00:24:38.400 We are erasing history. The same administration that kills Renee Good and Alex Preddy and is willing to pursue Liam Ramos by any means necessary is actually seeking to vacate charges, convictions.

00:24:53.820 We're talking about an eight-week trial and a four-month trial before juries here.

00:24:58.760 We're seeking to erase those, and we're talking about domestic terrorism.

00:25:02.400 Remind us what these men did and what they were convicted of.

00:25:06.680 They coordinated, they directed, they planned, they executed everything that happened on January 6th.

00:25:15.680 They are the ringleaders of what transpired on January 6th, the worst offenders on one of the worst days.

00:25:22.180 And if January 6th was successful, what was the end of it? What was the goal? Was it to...

00:25:27.480 The goal was to interrupt the transfer of power.

00:25:29.380 And in fact, some of the people who were convicted, who the department now says it no longer wants to pursue their convictions,

00:25:35.280 are people who even after January 6th were prepared to and took steps to continue to

00:25:42.600 interfere with that transfer of power. I want to read to you, Katie, because you were asking

00:25:45.760 what were they accused of? What were they convicted of? On the day that Stuart Rhodes

00:25:51.120 and four other members of the Oath Keepers went to trial, the opening statement delivered by

00:25:54.980 prosecutors included the following sentence. They concocted a plan for an armed rebellion

00:25:59.800 to shatter a bedrock of American democracy. That was our Department of Justice in 2022 0.52

00:26:06.480 at a trial. And yet this Department of Justice, as James said, is trying to erase it.

00:26:12.140 If you are doing this now ahead of the midterms, is the message, am I being too cynical by asking,

00:26:19.380 is the message, do it again, it's okay. If we lose, go out there and do it again.

00:26:25.140 it's OK, we won't come after you. It's this. It's a very similar message to anyone who does

00:26:31.060 anything within, you know, within a radius of me will receive a pardon if they need one.

00:26:36.180 Right. That is rolling out the red carpet. Think about Todd Blanche saying we're at war with

00:26:41.300 judges. Tom Homan saying, I don't care what judges think. And now the Department of Justice

00:26:45.980 saying, in essence, we don't care what juries think. If you take away judges and juries, Katie,

00:26:51.820 there isn't a whole lot to hold people accountable in terms of a judicial branch at all.

00:26:57.120 So what happens if the 26th election?

00:27:00.000 You see what the battle lines and how the battle lines are drawn here.

00:27:04.720 Hold it right there because I may play this after the break.

00:27:07.680 They get back to Watergate.

00:27:09.160 They get back to the separation between President Trump's Article 2 powers,

00:27:13.380 which Mike Davis has come on here.

00:27:14.740 And of course, in the years in the wilderness, Project 2025 and Center for Renewing America,

00:27:20.260 Everyone went through this time and again.

00:27:23.180 President Trump is Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.

00:27:25.620 He's Chief Executive of the government.

00:27:27.080 He can fire anybody he wants.

00:27:29.160 The appropriations bill is a floor, not a ceiling.

00:27:32.660 Russ's vote was getting lit up today.

00:27:34.420 Hopefully we're going to get some of the questions that Russ had over at the House.

00:27:39.840 But he's also the Chief Magistrate and Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the U.S. government.

00:27:44.900 Suck on that.

00:27:46.040 They hate that.

00:27:46.840 They want it hived off with these radicals in the Department of Justice, these radical judges, these juries that are now in sanctuary cities that you can't even take a trial, go to trial because of jury nullification.

00:28:03.140 They prepped these people on jury nullification.

00:28:05.660 The most corrupt part of our entire system is the legal system.

00:28:09.880 And Todd Blanch and the team over at DOJ is stepping into the breach of this and saying, no, we're going to clean this mess up.

00:28:14.460 This is a major fight, and you see the battle lines being drawn already in the mainstream media.

00:28:20.680 Short break.

00:28:23.040 This year marks a critical moment for our country.

00:28:25.900 As the opposition grows more aggressive and more unapologetic,

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00:29:58.300 War Room.

00:29:59.340 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:30:01.760 I'm going to go back to the DOJ in a moment.

00:30:07.320 We also got Russ over at OMB.

00:30:09.200 We got Scott at Treasury, all three today.

00:30:12.660 And I want to get to all three, but particularly this thing at DOJ.

00:30:16.580 Boesburg got reversed by the Supreme Court, I think, yesterday.

00:30:19.240 But Julie Kelly's got a great piece up on her sub stack saying, hey, it looks great, but maybe it's not perfect.

00:30:24.760 Boesburg's got a lot more up his sleeve.

00:30:26.380 And it's these radical judges, particularly at the front lines of the judicial system, these federal judges.

00:30:33.040 So we still, as you know, we've been on this problem with you since the very first days of the Trump administration

00:30:38.980 when they took him to court after the very first executive orders.

00:30:42.440 So more of this.

00:30:43.360 And this is where the left really has a strategic advantage over us because even the conservative law firms won't send people over to DOJ,

00:30:51.360 won't send people to Maine Justice or particularly for the U.S. attorneys.

00:30:54.960 because of the blue slip situation.

00:30:57.780 We still only have 14 or 15.

00:31:00.280 I think there's 92 U.S. attorneys.

00:31:02.440 Well, only 14 or 15 are Trump appointees

00:31:05.980 because there's blue slips.

00:31:08.080 If you don't get your team in there,

00:31:09.160 how can you actually execute your plan,

00:31:11.360 particularly at the all-important Justice Department?

00:31:14.740 There's so much going on there right now

00:31:16.160 on this fight against the deep state

00:31:18.820 and a lot more to come.

00:31:19.940 I'm going to track down Solomon tonight,

00:31:21.460 try to get John on tomorrow morning.

00:31:23.140 A lot going on tomorrow.

00:31:23.880 also we're going to be in south south carolina bombshell you saw paul dance we had on the show

00:31:28.760 the other day he's he's basically stopped put his campaign on hold and endorsed mark lynch

00:31:38.920 lady lady lady lindsey is is below 50 percent that's shocking for an incumbent that's going

00:31:47.240 for his fourth term anyway more in south carolina and particularly how the war is playing into this

00:31:52.280 into this vote uh kobe blumenthal blumenfeld gans joins us the ceo of chapter sir i've gotten

00:32:00.680 your proposition is very simple the complexity of the um of the medicare system because it was

00:32:08.480 kind of complex how it got passed and how it's been added it's been so tough to get things added

00:32:15.000 it's kind of like a frankenstein monster now on top of that you have the insurance companies

00:32:19.440 there's a hundred billion dollars worth of fees and they want to make sure most of those are

00:32:24.680 collected by them so they have this whole kind of ecosystem of people are supposed to be consultants

00:32:29.840 but they turn out they're they're consultants but they're paid by the insurance company so

00:32:33.960 into this kind of witch's brew you stepped as a data guy not a health care guy and said hey i think

00:32:40.740 more perfect information i'll make this a more efficient market why don't we work on that and

00:32:46.260 hence we have chapter, the feedback I've gotten from the Warren Posse is pretty overwhelming.

00:32:51.400 People love how you offer it, your customer service people, and I think in talking to

00:32:58.120 individual people, they're saving a lot of money. Can you walk us through how you've thought this

00:33:03.600 through, why it has an impact, those $100 billion of fees, are they really up for grabs, and how can

00:33:10.300 you help the Warren Posse? Because so far, the folks that have contacted us have been

00:33:14.740 incredibly pleased with your service and your people. Sir. Thanks for having me. At a high

00:33:21.180 level, the entire Medicare industry has been set up to prioritize the insurance carriers rather

00:33:26.520 than the consumers or the posse. And I saw my parents going through this process. And as you

00:33:32.500 said, I don't come from a healthcare or an insurance background. I just thought it was

00:33:36.080 kind of wild and crazy that all of these Medicare advisors, these agents are agents of the insurance

00:33:42.380 carrier, not fiduciaries to the consumer. And so a chapter, we have built an unbiased Medicare

00:33:48.780 platform that helps people very easily walk through all of their options, understand exactly

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00:34:05.380 we will help them enroll in the right Medicare plan. It's no cost. It's totally free to the

00:34:11.140 Posse, we are able to do that because we do earn revenue from these companies, but no one on our

00:34:17.180 team knows what companies pay us, and we still enroll people in plans even when we don't earn

00:34:23.500 any revenue. And so it's a really important part of our model that makes us unique. And because we

00:34:27.620 have so much data on all these plans, we're able to drive those savings of $1,200 to $1,300 a year

00:34:32.800 per person. And when you multiply that by the 70 million Americans on Medicare, that's $100

00:34:37.760 billion of savings that Americans are missing out on that's going back to the insurance carrier

00:34:43.800 today. What about the constant thing that people come to me? What about if I'm already in a program

00:34:50.880 and I know that program, I know that program is not optimal. I made some mistakes. I didn't

00:34:56.300 understand it. What happens if you're already in a program? Can you still help people that are in

00:35:00.500 that situation? Yes. In most cases, we can help. So it's definitely worth giving us a call at

00:35:06.340 845 War Room, you'll connect with one of our Medicare advisors. They're all full-time licensed

00:35:12.460 individuals who will make sure that you are on the right plan. And if there's a way to optimize

00:35:17.200 or get you more savings or get you on a better plan, we'll help you walk through that process

00:35:21.120 very simply. Kobe, also, on the compensation structure, when you deal with some of these

00:35:28.340 other consultants, they're incentivized by the insurance companies. Your team, when somebody

00:35:32.920 calls an 845 war room and talks to somebody, they're not incentivized to put me in a plan

00:35:39.460 that costs more because they get a higher commission, correct? That's right. All of our

00:35:44.600 Medicare advisors do not earn commission. They earn the same amount of money, whether they enroll

00:35:50.460 someone in a plan that makes chapter zero dollars or that makes chapter some dollars or that makes

00:35:55.400 chapter more dollars. It does not matter. And they don't even know which plans earn chapter more or

00:36:00.640 less. And so in that way, we've blinded it from them. So their only goal is to make sure that

00:36:05.320 consumers have the best plan for their needs. How much blowback are you getting from the industry,

00:36:10.680 sir? I'm definitely not the most liked person in the Medicare industry. I think a lot of the

00:36:17.320 legacy Medicare industry thinks that, and frankly, they're threatened by us for, I think,

00:36:24.400 reasonable reasons. And we're kind of upending the model and shining a light on a lot of the

00:36:29.960 bad business practices that have been going on for a long time. When I started the company,

00:36:35.220 everyone in the Medicare industry told me I was crazy and that it wasn't this bad and that this

00:36:39.660 isn't actually happening, but it is. And in fact, now there's a DOJ investigation into a bunch of

00:36:44.760 the legacy Medicare brokerages for these exact malicious practices of trying to push certain

00:36:51.320 plans just because they get paid more by the insurance carrier. Well, Kobe, one more time,

00:36:56.840 Where do people go and how should they interact and connect with your customer service team?

00:37:02.680 Give us a call at 845-WAR-ROOM.

00:37:04.880 That's 845-WAR-ROOM.

00:37:06.460 You'll connect with one of our Medicare advisors.

00:37:08.860 We'll walk you through your options.

00:37:10.660 It's totally free, no obligation.

00:37:13.200 Our only goal is to make sure you have the right health care and health insurance that, frankly, you've earned and you've paid into your entire career.

00:37:20.140 So we'd love to talk to you.

00:37:22.880 Thank you, sir.

00:37:23.680 Appreciate you.

00:37:24.220 We appreciate starting the company,

00:37:25.480 getting tremendous feedback from people.

00:37:27.200 So keep on.

00:37:29.640 Thanks.

00:37:30.400 Appreciate it.

00:37:31.500 Well, I'm going to turn to Russ.

00:37:32.800 Russ Vogt got hammered today.

00:37:34.800 Of course, he hammers back.

00:37:35.880 You know, Russ is a perfect gentleman.

00:37:37.000 We're going to play some clips on that.

00:37:38.680 And then I'll come back to the Todd Blanch

00:37:40.660 and what's happening over at DOJ

00:37:42.220 because you've got DOJ, you've got Treasure,

00:37:44.780 you've got OMB.

00:37:45.440 Some of these are hitting on all cylinders.

00:37:47.520 I want to make sure you're totally up to speed.

00:37:48.920 Let's go ahead and play our own contributor, Russ Vogt.

00:37:54.220 After months of prodding, White House Budget Director Russ Vogt finally came to testify on Capitol Hill today.

00:38:00.400 The main focus was the White House's record-breaking proposal for $1.5 trillion in increased defense spending

00:38:08.800 and the billions of dollars in non-defense spending that will be slashed by the administration.

00:38:15.240 four hundred and forty two billion increase in defense that's what you're asking for about a

00:38:24.560 42 percent increase is that right correct for many paradigm shifting investments that we need

00:38:30.840 this 42 percent increase on what was already a record high for defense and look i serve as part

00:38:36.940 of our u.s delegation the nato parliament um i am no pacifist i believe in a strong national

00:38:43.180 defense. I believe the United States. I believe the world is at its best when the United States

00:38:47.960 is the strongest military. The idea that we're going to pay for a 42 percent increase in this

00:38:55.500 military, in this Department of Defense, and at the same time cut Medicaid, Medicare, not pay for

00:39:02.160 child care, all of these things that the American people need. The idea that we're really going to

00:39:09.200 pursue a massive $400 billion increase in our defense budget, while at the same time taking

00:39:16.240 away health care from 15 million Americans, I think that is both wrong and immoral.

00:39:21.140 How do you increase defense spending in this new world, and we're learning how to wage it

00:39:26.260 differently, while also maintaining the social safety net? Well, the White House answers that

00:39:33.660 by simply refusing to retain the social safety net.

00:39:37.740 This is a war of choice that they have pursued.

00:39:40.960 Russ Vogt, who finally, after 15 months of ducking our committee,

00:39:45.080 appeared and testified today, he refused to actually put a specific figure

00:39:50.540 on what their ask will be for the Iran war.

00:39:53.540 But we do know that they have requested a whopping 42 percent increase

00:39:57.860 in the defense budget, all told, for Iran as well as everything else.

00:40:02.260 at the same time they passed a tax bill last summer that eliminates health care for more than 15 million Americans

00:40:08.920 and cuts nutrition assistance, eliminates it, in fact, for millions more.

00:40:13.760 So that's a reflection, like any budget, it's a reflection of the priorities of the one who is making the budget.

00:40:20.060 We know the priorities of this administration are for war and not for the basic needs of the American people.

00:40:26.820 So he was talking about how the Government Accountability Office, he says it's very partisan and typically wrong.

00:40:33.080 It's typically the exact opposite the numbers of whatever GAO cites.

00:40:39.440 Given that he disputed the foundational facts that he was asked about, was it worth having him today?

00:40:46.900 I do think it's worth having him there, even though he lied repeatedly, made absurd claims.

00:40:53.460 When I presented to him the fact that millions of Americans are going to lose their health care or that four trillion dollars is going to be added to the debt because of their actions.

00:41:03.220 He disputed all of those figures, even though some of them were for right of center from right of center organizations.

00:41:08.980 Some of them were for left of center organizations. CBO has verified everything that I've said.

00:41:14.200 His response to all of this is that that's woke nonsense. Essentially, they're all wrong.

00:41:20.880 So, Russ, I think what we'll do is have a highlight reel on that tomorrow.

00:41:27.240 I understand that there was a House.

00:41:28.540 He's still going to do the Senate.

00:41:29.740 But Russ dug in hard.

00:41:33.140 You remember for his years coming on the show from CRA.

00:41:37.380 And Russ was deputy OMB in the first term and then fleeted up to run it, to be the director.

00:41:47.260 So he's done this gig before, I think for two, almost two and a half years before taking it on now.

00:41:54.620 You could not get an individual that knows the budgeting process better and knows what he's doing.

00:42:01.120 And they came after him today.

00:42:02.700 One of the central items they're tacking him on, and maybe we'll break it down a little bit more tomorrow so people can understand it.

00:42:09.640 But there's in the plan. And when you say cutting Medicare and some of these social welfare programs, the Trump administration, Stephen Miller and Russ vote are going through with a fine tooth, fine tooth comb because they are not going to allow one penny to go to illegal aliens or people that are not qualified to be in these programs.

00:42:30.240 These programs are expensive enough, and people want them to keep going and to be vibrant, to be robust.

00:42:36.780 What you can have is people that are not eligible, particularly illegal alien evaders.

00:42:41.420 And so there was a—we saw it at the beginning of that cut right there—a quite intense back and forth over that aspect.

00:42:51.220 And we're going to see if hopefully the administration sticks by his guns here.

00:42:54.360 Now, there's going to do a lot of horse trading on this, obviously.

00:42:59.040 One thing they did not say today, didn't commit to, which I thought was interesting.

00:43:03.120 They didn't commit to the two.

00:43:04.200 I don't think the 200 billion or what they said originally was going to have been I think

00:43:08.600 is going to be far less because I don't think they're going to be there that long of this

00:43:12.320 Iran war is not included in the one point five trillion.

00:43:17.100 But anyway, they're going to have to be offset with social media or social program cuts.

00:43:23.360 So we're going to see how that plays an intense battle coming up.

00:43:26.540 What they're, I think, going to do is what they always do is just fall back to some omnibus and try to jam it.

00:43:31.900 So more on that.

00:43:33.720 The first opening salvo of Ross' vote.

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00:45:50.800 War Room. Here's your host,

00:45:53.240 Stephen K. Mann.

00:45:55.100 You know, there's a,

00:45:56.500 there's some tweets out, I don't

00:45:58.800 know if they were trying to be tongue-in-cheek, given

00:46:00.480 Scott is a brawler

00:46:02.660 of how he went to Yale

00:46:04.740 and worked on Wall Street,

00:46:06.840 that he and Hassett got into it,

00:46:08.680 I guess, over the White House. I don't think,

00:46:10.580 I think that might be

00:46:11.780 not totally accurate anyway overnight we're going to figure that all out like as i was at a meeting

00:46:16.760 so i couldn't track some of these things i do want to thank joe allen and uh i want to thank natalie

00:46:22.140 the um also joe one of the biggest scene okay so some of these huge fights behind the scenes are

00:46:29.520 now just surfacing the clean fisa now you would never think in a million years we'd be sitting

00:46:34.420 here in power with the house and the senate in the white house particularly given the abuses

00:46:39.800 of the FISA program against President Trump

00:46:44.140 and his colleagues, myself included.

00:46:47.840 You wouldn't think that we'd be in the situation

00:46:50.160 of saying the phrase clean FISA with Jim Jordan,

00:46:53.880 who I think has been one of the biggest guys

00:46:55.280 to fight this over years.

00:46:56.640 I remember all the times going on Hannity

00:46:58.180 and coming on this show.

00:46:59.880 I mean, I think he's been a real warrior about it.

00:47:01.460 Many people have been a real warrior about it.

00:47:03.060 One of the best is the great Andy Biggs.

00:47:07.040 Andy's now running for governor of California.

00:47:09.700 what happened or excuse me governor of arizona the they they called i think 18 of the republicans

00:47:15.720 who are very hesitant and people that are very focused on civil liberties and have fought this

00:47:21.460 forever and many of these people didn't hated the patriot act patriot act and they met i think they

00:47:27.340 even met with the president and still couldn't get the bill out of rules and to the floor with

00:47:33.740 Andy and I think Anna

00:47:35.240 playing a lunar being two of

00:47:37.760 the leaders. So we will get

00:47:39.700 more on that overnight.

00:47:42.320 This whole reason why the administration

00:47:43.920 is trying to push a clean

00:47:45.820 FISA because we know 1.00

00:47:47.280 the Lindsey Graham's of the world and that crowd 0.95

00:47:49.820 what they want, right? But it's

00:47:51.640 what the MAGA movement has wanted

00:47:53.700 so we'll get some more details on that.

00:47:55.780 Also behind the scenes, believe it or not

00:47:57.880 I'm hearing rumblings

00:47:59.680 and this I think it's about not

00:48:01.740 reading the room.

00:48:02.420 the maga base and the populist movement and grassroots movement have been adamant that

00:48:13.140 they don't trust the oligarchs and they don't trust artificial intelligence one of the reason

00:48:19.140 is as we've presented information now for what almost six years with joe allen and others is

00:48:27.120 that they just don't think these guys are being straight with them these accelerationists and

00:48:31.820 they understand the issues with the Chinese Communist Party, but they see that as an issue

00:48:35.280 that can be handled without becoming a, just let the AI companies run as they want to run.

00:48:42.300 Now, there is my understanding, once again, because we've defeated them across so many

00:48:48.140 different times, they're actually working with Speaker Johnson, and I think intend to

00:48:54.180 include it in potential reconciliation.

00:48:56.360 I just want to give Speaker Johnson, the people working on this, a heads up, that's not going

00:49:00.400 to work.

00:49:00.740 you're going to go down to another epic defeat and it try to tie it to must pass legislation

00:49:07.180 or things that have to have and maybe even the save america act which they may try to jam it in

00:49:12.380 it's not going to work as important as the save america act is it would not be and i say this as

00:49:18.800 somebody that's not just gone to prison for it but fought for this for years and years and years

00:49:24.300 and we were the leading platform on election integrity i'm just giving people a heads up if

00:49:28.880 you try to make it a a a choice or somebody has to make that choice i think you're not going to be

00:49:35.280 not going to like the outcome because they're going to see they're taking hostage i'd like

00:49:39.360 to see the senate get back to trying to pass the save america act remember it's the biggest thing

00:49:44.840 in the world most important thing mike lee was out there every night we covered it we live streamed

00:49:48.340 it we turned over the six o'clock show to do it we had cleta and jenny beth martin so many people

00:49:52.760 on here talking about it um and it just kind of they went on two weeks vacation easter break and

00:49:58.620 It just kind of, you know, fizzled every now and again, they pick it, but their heart's not in it.

00:50:03.600 They're not fighting for it. I think something's amiss.

00:50:06.740 So we're going to have much more than that. For pattern recognition, what this jury.

00:50:13.780 So what happened in this case of Ticketmaster and Live Nation for 45 years, no jury in this country has ever come back and said somebody's an illegal monopoly and has to be broken up.

00:50:28.620 That is unheard of in modern America.

00:50:33.260 You couple that with what happened in New Mexico,

00:50:36.840 a very complicated trial with Meta about this putting children at risk,

00:50:42.340 and they come back within an hour.

00:50:44.980 And that's how long it takes to pass out the jury cards and take a first vote.

00:50:48.420 They come back in an hour, rule against the company.

00:50:51.760 Zuckerberg's in shock.

00:50:53.640 If you look about, by the way, did we ever get Mike Lindell?

00:50:56.300 We never got him.

00:50:58.620 We've always got to track down Mike Lindell because he's working on the factory floor.

00:51:04.640 If you look at what happened in L.A., the same thing.

00:51:07.440 There is a true populist revolt going on in the country.

00:51:10.420 So where people have access to be able to make decisions and have some power, they're going to use that power.

00:51:20.040 And you see the pattern of recognition.

00:51:21.480 this what is scaled up and treats people so awfully and doesn't really care about it it's not

00:51:28.040 it's not going to work it's not going to work you're seeing on the other side mangini what

00:51:33.800 they want to do is they want to go full french revolution on you right away shoot a guy in the

00:51:37.340 back or mandami who's now you know 30 million dollar food store is opening in new york city 0.61

00:51:44.380 because they're complete marxist jihadist but there is another way and you're seeing this in 0.63

00:51:49.600 Texas, you're seeing it in the Commonwealth of Virginia, you're seeing it in Georgia and many

00:51:54.320 other places that we're going to profile people. But populism is now, people are trying to enforce

00:52:02.040 it from the precinct strategy everywhere. People are trying to garner more and more power as they

00:52:07.440 should. Power for the little guy. Now, I will tell you, I can see another trend because we're a

00:52:14.020 populist nationalist movement, and there was a lot of nationalism in the first term, and there's

00:52:19.960 been in the second term, but people would argue, well, hey, America first has kind of been diluted.

00:52:24.620 We're wandering all over the world, become the world's policeman again. Just stand by,

00:52:32.840 because I think you're going to see not just an increase in nationalism in our movement.

00:52:38.540 I do believe if you look and see what's happening with younger people and where the trend is and

00:52:43.780 where the corporations, particularly in these visa programs

00:52:46.900 and what's happening in immigration,

00:52:49.700 you're going to go down to ultra,

00:52:50.900 it's going to go from nationalism to ultranationalism.

00:52:55.660 I can see it.

00:52:56.700 I see it's clear, as clear as a sky blue Arizona day.

00:53:04.620 Okay, Ben Harnwell is next.

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Bannon's War Room - April 15, 2026

Episode 5303： Victory For MAGA Against Live Nation And Ticketmaster Monopoly

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