00:00:29.100I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.520Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.300If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.480War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:50.060It's Thursday, 16 April, Eurovillator, 2026.
00:00:53.200uh john eastman that entire ecosystem from from the the top colleges that feed into these programs
00:01:00.960the law school selection process the professors the recruiting system of the big law firms how
00:01:06.600you're training these big law firms uh and and now the federal judges the state judges state
00:01:12.060supreme court this ecosystem leads itself to a radical take or has been taken over by these
00:01:18.360neo-Marxist. And this is by far the most effective part of what the left has. This is why MSNBC
00:01:24.880covers this 10 times more than CNN. MSNBC is part of it. They are they're inextricably linked
00:01:31.580as the propaganda arm for this radical movement that is attempting to really take over the
00:01:39.440country. In fact, I would argue they've taken over the country. It's the Trump, a militia that's
00:01:43.760fighting back. You now have seen it when the Supreme Court of California just gives a two-word
00:01:50.260thing. Yeah, disbar him, get rid of him. We want to silence him. Your thoughts on the entire system
00:01:56.720and how we fight back? Well, you know, our brief to the California Supreme Court, it hit very two
00:02:03.960important federal, three important federal constitutional rights, the freedom of speech.
00:02:08.800I mean, look, Steve, one of the charges against me was because I commented about illegality in
00:02:13.680the election said it was widespread on your show back in January of 2021. And they said that was
00:02:20.100false because the election was perfect. The size ahead said so. And and I knew that. So I was lying.
00:02:26.440And and and, you know, of course, none of that's true. But the fact that they would they would
00:02:33.680disbar me for, among other things, speaking on your show or writing an op ed or giving a speech,
00:02:39.920This is core protected First Amendment rights and urging the vice president to do something about the illegality.
00:02:46.780That's core right to petition the government for redress of grievances and that they would do this in a disciplinary proceeding that was the longest and most expensive in our nation's history in all likelihood before a judge who was just dripping with animosity throughout the 10 week long trial.
00:03:02.480And a reporter named Rachel Alexander watched every single day.
00:03:07.240You actually broadcast some of the proceedings yourself.
00:03:09.920Anybody that watched those proceedings just came away stunned at how one-sided it was.
00:03:15.580Hearsay evidence coming in on the other side, left and right, and being blocked on my side.
00:03:20.680One of the issues, key issues, was whether any reasonable lawyer would have filed the
00:03:25.680Texas versus Pennsylvania original action in the Supreme Court.
00:03:28.660And we offered the briefs of 17 different states' attorney generals that did exactly
00:03:46.800I mean, this is how lopsided the thing was.
00:03:49.460And so that's a federal due process problem as well.
00:03:53.080And look, we've got to be very clear here.
00:03:54.780This is much bigger than my own bar license.
00:03:57.240What's going on here is a leftist Marxist capture of our institutions and then weaponizing
00:04:03.400them to destroy any political opposition to the deep globalist state that is getting entrenched
00:04:09.180in this country. And because I stood up to illegality in the 2020 election, other than
00:04:14.780President Trump himself and perhaps Rudy Giuliani, I've become target number one because I won't
00:04:20.340stop talking about the illegality and trying to shine a light on it and be like Paul Revere,
00:04:26.180warning our fellow American citizens of what's about to happen if we don't fix this.
00:04:30.200John where do people go to get more information on this because you're absolutely 100% correct
00:04:36.720and it's ironic exactly the moment that the information is coming out from Tulsi Gabbard
00:04:40.760and others of which we're pursuing and what's happening in Georgia and John Eastman has got
00:04:45.480a major case in front of the Supreme Court on birthright citizenship is when they disbar him
00:04:49.280I want to make sure people go to your site to find out more about this also any way that they
00:04:54.480can help or assist you and get the understanding of what your fight, what your battle plan is for
00:05:01.320the fight ahead, sir? Yeah. So the easiest way where I post most frequently is on X and it's
00:05:07.640Dr. John Eastman. And I'll provide links there to my sub stack where I put documents up and what
00:05:14.700have you. They can help by sending prayers and money. This is going to be costly to take this
00:05:19.260to the U.S. Supreme Court, perhaps a quarter million dollars or more. And so I need help
00:05:23.620my legal defense fund and it's give send go dot com slash eastman um i could just throw in the
00:05:29.860towel like so many others have but this is a fight we have to have and we have to win so please go
00:05:35.540there send prayers uh but for me my wife my kids uh but also send donations if you can uh give send
00:05:42.820go dot com slash eastman john we're with you on this fight that's why we streamed the entire
00:05:49.700proceedings uh and realize what a kangaroo court it is and people should know how far california
00:05:55.120has gone just see what the supreme court in the state of california did by rubber stamping this
00:05:58.960but look you got a lot of fight left in you this movement's got a lot of fight left in it and we're
00:06:04.360going to turn this around so thank you sir appreciate you always thank you steve eastman
00:06:10.100one of the uh one of the patriots and the heroes um joe allen joins me in studio first of two things
00:06:16.780i wanted to hear when we first brought you on here you were writing for the federalist six years ago
00:06:21.940and you know you were doing it on a has five years ago you were doing it just feels it feels like
00:06:27.68016 um you were putting up articles then but you had a full-time job that full-time job you were
00:06:34.800a rigger for concerts correct yes so i wanted to have you on here because we have paxton on this
00:06:39.900afternoon we had the attorney general of tennessee yesterday this case of live nation is huge because
00:06:45.420It's the first time in 45 years a jury of basic everyday Americans sat in judgment of one of these concentrated power of corporations, and they said, this is an illegal monopoly.
00:06:57.520But as I told people as soon as that, I said, Joe Allen probably knows this better than anybody because tell us from the deck plate level because rigors are not top of the food chain, I take it.
00:07:08.500How dangerous – and how did you see how this was a legal monopoly?
00:07:12.180You know, riggers always feel like we're at the top of the food chain.
00:07:15.780You know, you're climbing up above everyone.
00:07:17.560You look down, everyone looks like ants.
00:07:19.300It can give you kind of maybe a condescending perspective.
00:07:22.120But, yeah, we're definitely working guys.
00:07:25.120I mean, rigging is just all the suspension systems that hold up the light, sound, video, even the automated systems.
00:07:31.680So all the cool stuff you see in a concert is all done.
00:07:34.440You guys all set that up strategically up in the rafters, essentially.
00:07:37.720Yeah. And Live Nation, so you get a real opportunity to see how the entertainment industry evolves, right?
00:07:46.320I started in 2002 as a stagehand, lowliest grunt there is in the business, and then worked my way up.
00:07:53.800And I would always watch the shows. And of course, I watched shows as a kid. It's something I really loved.
00:07:59.200It's kind of like it becomes like a bartender that gets tired of drinking. You know, the shows start to wear you down.
00:08:04.660And by 2008, I was touring with some of these acts. So Black Eyed Peas, Rascal Flats, did a leg with the reincarnation of Leonard Skinner, Rihanna, stuff like that. UFC for 11 years.
00:08:18.720You did UFC fights, bouts for 11 years?
00:08:22.480Off and on for 11 years. Yeah. From 2012 till, I'm sorry, nine years. My math is off here. Yes. 2009 years, 2012 until 2021. J6, that was where I was with the UFC. So airtight alibi.
00:08:37.860i um but you you really can see the differences and you see how the corporate culture will just
00:08:44.680ruin an artist and live nation was the biggest culprit in that whole process you have all sorts
00:08:51.740of different promoters like ac entertainment with ashley caps that was the big one in the southeast
00:08:55.780and he by and large was passionate about the art and he other than his treatment of workers at
00:09:02.360bonnaroo uh he really made artists who they were right he gave them that platform live nation
00:09:08.660had a very different approach i mean that you you could see once an artist had signed with them
00:09:13.320they would become very polished you would and you would have these live nation spies basically
00:09:18.740running around the tour what do you mean spies so um i i started to notice it in the late 2000 teens
00:09:25.600but it's sort of like you know how the the chinese communist party will send han chinese to go live
00:09:30.040with the Uyghurs and see like a family photo and there's like a light skinned Asian guy photo
00:09:34.220bombing like the Tibetans or the Uyghurs. It was like that, except for it was a corporate guy in0.79
00:09:38.940a polo shirt that would be on the tour bus and watching what everyone was doing, listening to
00:09:42.960all the conversations. On the one hand, he's, I guess, seeing how efficient the system is from a
00:09:49.280business level. But on the other hand, they would oftentimes interfere and kind of meddle in the
00:09:55.320affairs of the touring personnel so i mean one of the only things you have in on a tour is your
00:10:00.740crew on a tour bus right like that that tribe is what makes the the grind so bearable but uh the
00:10:07.880the live nation guys yeah i mean it just on that level you had again just that that whole corporate
00:10:13.700mentality we want to make sure that everything's clean everything's polished everything's efficient
00:10:17.960and it went into the music industry itself you can see it with all these different artists
00:10:22.800the katie perry's of the world or the catches of the world or the lady gaga's and i i think
00:10:27.640live nation represents like the ultimate in what people like roger waters would be singing about
00:10:33.040with you know the wall or welcome to the machine that kind of disaffected attitude towards the
00:10:38.120entire industry because it really does just suck the soul out of you did it um the the attorney
00:10:44.240general of tennessee was scarmetic who was one of the leaders of this and we're gonna have paxton
00:10:49.560on tonight he said what struck him and and shocking because remember they had to step in
00:10:54.960in the middle of a trial which never happens because it's so complicated he said what shocked
00:10:58.960him was that to get witnesses he said they had so many people at so many different levels of
00:11:05.880not just the ticket side but also the promotion side that wanted to come through with tales of
00:11:10.700horror but they said i can't do that i'll be destroyed this is a machine that will destroy
00:11:14.740you what are your thoughts about that he says hey it was tough to get witnesses because these guys
00:11:18.980are like the mafia right that if you step out of line you're going to be out of the business yeah
00:11:24.460i want you know uh nda is all the way down so maybe they'll be knocking on my door just for
00:11:28.380saying all this you had to sign an nda well i signed a lot of ndas for different shows i didn't
00:11:32.540sign ndas for all of them and in fact uh as a rigor as a they make you sign an nda oh yeah
00:11:38.200there were a number of artists why would you you're you're a guy in the rafters trying to get
00:11:42.360the sound and lights right why why you have to sign an nda well on the local level you wouldn't
00:11:46.920do that right on the local level that's when you're climbing up into the the grid above but
00:11:51.740on the touring level you are right there with uh all the backline people oftentimes you know when
00:11:56.760i would be hooking people when you're on the bus when you're on the bus yeah when you're touring
00:12:00.180with the act and i would be hooking up the artist you would see you'd be at the parties and all that
00:12:04.020you know i got to do they party some of them yeah i got to meet brian may and um uh you know i've
00:12:09.940toured with him for a while but i actually got to sit down and talk to him about astrophysics
00:12:13.600You know, he's a Ph.D. astrophysicist, and I don't think he'd sue me for saying that.
00:12:19.040But other artists were less fun to hang around.
00:12:35.820One of the big ones was I was touring with the Black Eyed Peas, who I did not sign the NDA for.
00:12:41.660and duly noted let our lawyer know that i guess i can say it on air since i'm quoting it but the0.86
00:12:48.880very first song i couldn't believe it the very first song was let's get retarded in here and
00:12:53.060i'm like what's going on here i'd never really heard him before and as i watched this show and0.68
00:12:56.960i watch it night after night after night after night it was obvious the entire act was basically
00:13:01.120to make people stupider especially to make the younger generation stupider that's a pretty big
00:13:06.460charge what do you mean by that well another example would be uh they had a song called the
00:13:10.000now generation i could sing every lyric of it but um this was 2010 and it's basically one of the
00:13:15.260lines was uh google is my professor wikipedia checker you know just like the whole it was like
00:13:20.800an ad right like you could imagine et's slimy little hands and and uh reese's pieces dropping
00:13:26.620into it basically the whole thing was an ad for techno culture and then of course will i am from
00:13:30.700the black eyed peas now he's like a you know a frequent flyer at the world economic forum talking
00:13:35.040about ai and futurism so i guess i was calling that but i wrote an article about it it blew up
00:13:39.880And I had only just left, but they were furious, furious, as you can imagine.
00:13:44.780I mean, basically, the argument was that working as a rigger for the Black Eyed Peas would be like working as a lumberjack cutting down the redwood forest.
00:13:53.560In this case, it was the brains of the youth.
00:13:56.560Wow. Hang on. We're going to talk about we're going to pivot now to, I think, Amy Kramer.
00:14:00.960What's happening and part of the revolution you're leading is is the most important fight we've got today.
00:14:07.960it's obvious as here in the imperial capital imperial capital you can tell that i do think
00:14:13.480that there's some nefarious activity going on behind the scenes and what they're trying once
00:14:17.860again i think they're coming trying to jam some sort of ai amnesty bill uh governor desantis
00:14:24.740throwing down hard in florida calling a special session we got amy kramer up that works over at
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00:17:21.600And you turn out to be one of the most political savvy of all of them, even on the left, because a lot of these guys are great on the actual problem.0.98
00:17:30.960But this is a foreign. You can see this even with David Sachs and the arrogance of the oligarchs.
00:17:35.000They walked into town and said, hey, it's all these mediocre people in Congress.
00:17:38.400We can just jam things through. But the politics of it, you've really become one of the savants of this.
00:17:44.740So give us where you think we stand right now.
00:17:46.400Well, Steve, I don't want to contradict you on air, but I don't know if I'm all that politically savvy.
00:18:06.320What you've learned in five years from your rigor days to today and inside this whole movement of keeping the oligarchs basically, you know, we're not decelerationist, but we are decelerationist.
00:18:21.980You are one of the leaders, and I think that speaks a lot to you, but it also speaks to how we are, quite frankly, outgunned because these guys have every lobbyist.
00:18:30.120They've got the most savvy people, and you see how they pop up all the time.
00:18:33.740My point is we've killed this thing. We killed the big, beautiful bill version. We killed the NDA version, which are most must pass the framework that came out from the White House.
00:18:44.100We we shredded that. Right. Essentially, they're now looking at a different aspect of how to get David Sachs has been fired because of his arrogance and incompetence.
00:18:52.760But they don't stop. They don't stop because this is this is the fight for ultimate control, is it not?
00:18:59.200Yeah, absolutely. And if there's one thing that I've learned, a lot of what I've learned is watching people who really are politically savvy, you, Amy Kramer, Alex McCoy, Jeremy Ornstein, people like this, watching how politics is really done at the grassroots level.
00:19:14.080Because these guys, what's really amazing is how ham-fisted they can be. They've got all this money. They're very insulated. So you have someone like David Sachs who's saying that AI is one of the most, if not the most, consequential technologies of all human history.
00:19:28.720And while he downplays the danger, all the tech CEOs who he's defending say that this could also be one of the most, if not the most dangerous technologies on the planet.
00:19:40.700And so as he's balancing that, he says, also, these companies should be regulating themselves that they or in any regulation that is passed must not interfere with the expansion of these companies and the acceleration of these technologies.
00:19:58.220So it's their total acceleration. Nobody. You know, I talk to a lot of working class people, a lot of people who are not exactly on the cutting edge of political rhetoric.
00:20:09.940And none of them are falling for this. Nobody would be stupid enough to say, oh, you know, Pfizer should regulate themselves.
00:20:16.860I don't craft foods can't even regulate themselves. And so why with this extraordinary technology, even if it's half as powerful as it's being described now, would you allow that to happen?
00:20:27.080And so they're pouring all of this money. You know, there was an article that came out in Financial Times just the other day, Joe Miller talking about the hundreds of millions of dollars, not just leading the future pack, but all of the assortments of lobbyists and dark money organizations, hundreds of millions.
00:20:44.440If I recall correctly, he had added it up at that point to something like $500 million.
00:21:03.560And they're losing people every day, but they've got to do it.0.97
00:21:06.380Right now, if you see the ads, is that, oh, if you're against this, you're for China,
00:21:09.920which is the biggest line in the world, because they're the guys that are also providing the entire ecosystem for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:21:17.720And if you if you look at that next to there's an article that came out in TechCrunch two days ago by Sarah Perez,
00:21:24.600looking at three of the latest polls that have come out over the last few months.
00:21:28.880One, the Stanford AI index, which showed very clearly that while experts are by and large optimistic because they're the ones working on this and pushing it,
00:21:36.860the public is very much not optimistic about this, not in education, not in medicine,
00:21:41.760and certainly not for social life. The same thing you've got in Gallup, for instance. Gallup found
00:21:46.700that even among Zoomers, you have a real kind of dismal sense of what AI is going to lead to.
00:21:52.700And these are kids that have grown up basically with this technology. It's not that they're not
00:21:56.480exposed to it. And then Pew also had a poll that showed that half of Americans believe not only
00:22:02.760the AI is not going to be good for education, so on and so forth. Half of them know, believe I'll
00:22:08.080say, but I think no is more appropriate. No, that this technology is going to be terrible for
00:22:12.320creativity, terrible for social life. So the people are on our side. And in a republic or
00:22:19.480democracy, that is what is supposed to count. We're about to see if we're a republic or a
00:22:23.460democracy, because I would argue the oligarchs are trying to run the deal. Amy Kramer, the governor
00:22:29.460of uh of florida has thrown down hard has he got he got blocked he's pretty good on politics but he
00:22:34.660got blocked in his own house i believe he tells what he's done he's called a special session ma'am
00:22:40.180he sure did he called a special session yesterday um it is he there was a special session called
00:22:46.600for april 20th for redistricting in florida what he did was he amended that and changed it to april
00:22:53.30028th and added his AI Bill of Rights to the redistricting. And so what he's done, Steve,
00:22:59.200is he's putting everybody on notice. In a legislative session, there's all kinds of time
00:23:05.260things die through committee. I mean, there's procedural things they can do, but it died in
00:23:11.000the House. It passed in the Senate, I think, 38 to 2 or whatever. But the speaker wouldn't bring
00:23:16.960it to the floor. So Governor DeSantis has called him on the carpet and he says, we're going to put
00:23:22.160in the special session, and it's basically going to be an up or down vote. And this is what's key.
00:23:27.560It's condensed four days, April 28th through May 1st. And these people, their primaries are not
00:23:34.140until August, right? So you bring this legislation to the floor and you force these members to vote
00:23:40.360on it, yes or no. I don't know anybody who would want to go out there and be in a town hall or on
00:23:47.100a debate stage or a candidate forum and answer the question, why did you vote no against
00:23:53.000protecting children but to protect big AI?
00:23:56.040And so DeSantis, Governor DeSantis, I think he is the best damn governor in the country
00:24:00.460right now, honestly, that he is doing this.
00:24:03.600And look at what has happened in Florida.
00:24:05.980We've had a 14-year-old boy, Sewell Setzer, die by suicide at the encouragement of a chatbot.
00:24:11.280a 36-year-old Jupiter man died by suicide at the encouragement of his chatbot quote-unquote wife
00:24:17.780and then it was just released last week that um the the shooting in Florida at Florida State
00:24:24.440University which is one year ago tomorrow that gives me chills two men died and eight were
00:24:29.800injured and chat GPT was allegedly used to plan that shooting so much so that three minutes before
00:24:36.460the guy actually shot took the shot um chat gpt told him to take the safety off his gun
00:24:42.760and that is according to court documents so um the florida attorney general has is um investigating
00:24:49.400and they're gonna subpoena hang on one second um we only got a couple minutes joe what de
00:24:57.400santas has done that's what i'm saying behind the scenes here you're gonna see the tech oligarchs
00:25:30.500The oligarchs sitting there going, if DeSantis is successful down here, and he will be successful, right, then we're jammed up.
00:25:37.420Then we're forced to get a federal law that supersedes DeSantis.
00:25:41.960And that's why you're going to see they're going to come back with reconciliation, I think, and give us a poison chalice.
00:25:49.000They're going to say, well, if you want Save America or another tax cut for the working class, you're going to have to take an A.I. Amnesty bill.
00:25:56.040That is what Johnson and these cowards are working on right now.
00:25:59.360Do you agree with me? Yeah. What I'm seeing, especially on this, is you've got any any of the federal legislation that's meant to preempt the state legislation.
00:26:09.180I'm assuming all of it will be completely defanged. If Marsha Blackburn, you know, God willing, were to pass the Trump America AI Act, that has teeth all up and down.
00:26:19.900But you saw it with COSA. You saw it with Guard and even with Take It Down.
00:26:25.280I mean, I think we have one conviction with Take It Down so far.
00:26:29.640I mean, how many millions of instances?
00:26:31.660So, yeah, I think that one effect of the federal preemption is any state laws that really have the power to gum up this machine will be preempted by soft and unenforced laws at the federal level.
00:26:46.340DeSantis has done a wonderful job of really sticking it to these companies.
00:26:50.640And if you really read the laws that are being proposed in the AI Bill of Rights, I don't even see how it's really going to gum up industry all that much.
00:26:59.080What to make deep producing a technology that allows you to make deep fakes, you know, forcing companies to have print parent.
00:27:07.160But they don't want any. They don't want any regulation at all.
00:27:10.000That's not Amy Cramer. Where do people? Where do people?
00:27:13.440Amy, we've got to bounce. Where do people go to get more information about you?
00:27:17.800Amy Kramer on Twitter, on X, and you can go to humansfirst.com.
00:27:21.700We're having a town hall here in D.C., April 22nd, next Wednesday night, 7 p.m.
00:30:09.700Yeah, good morning, Steve. Well, the building behind me back in June of 2024 was when President Trump made that announcement of no tax on tips that came through a conversation he was having in one in his hotel in the restaurant there with a waitress.
00:30:25.460She claimed, Mr. President, if I had more money and in other words, if I can keep the tips that I get, it would make a huge difference. And just days later, that came up with the policy, the new tax policy, no tax on tips.
00:30:39.180So President Trump will be making his way here to the AC Hotel Symphony Park just down from the world market behind me.
00:30:47.320At 4 o'clock, I'll have a roundtable to talk to aerial firefighters, police officers, and a gentleman who owns a barbershop that has said,
00:30:56.720Steve, keeping his tips and not paying tax on them, I made a big difference in his life.
00:31:01.900so um the president's also staying overnight and he's going to head to arizona tomorrow i think do
00:31:09.020a turning point event correct so this is unusual president trump and the reason he's going to be
00:31:13.320in vegas stay at his own hotel because he doesn't do he doesn't do a lot of overnights right he goes
00:31:18.500and comes back um but this is a big trip for him yeah this is a big trip you know you typically
00:31:25.820makes it out this way west he will stay uh at his hotel and especially if there's another
00:31:31.160event the next day instead of traveling to phoenix he'll just do an overnight here in vegas and travel
00:31:37.260into phoenix tomorrow which is what he's doing now luke and myself we don't have that that pleasure
00:31:42.420and that luxury steve after today's event at four o'clock we're going to get jumping on rent a car
00:31:47.300and drive across the desert southwest and head to phoenix to dream city church and that's where the
00:31:53.560event takes place tomorrow 2 p.m local time there with the turning point usa folks and president
00:33:07.300Brian Glenn, give as good as you can get.
00:33:11.640Mary Holland, I had to have you on, Mary.
00:33:13.680Thank you for changing your schedule to do this.
00:33:16.300Bobby Kennedy is up on Capitol Hill test Friday,
00:33:18.460and we're going to do polls for that tonight for the 5 o'clock show.
00:33:21.680But the New York Times has an article, and I find this extraordinary that I think the New York Times hates you and the Make America Healthy Again founders more than they hate the MAGA founders.
00:33:35.460They're saying now Bobby Kennedy helped create this movement, Make America Healthy Again, but it's kind of an albatross.
00:34:06.300Steve, I say The New York Times is full of it.
00:34:09.440The New York Times hates Bobby Kennedy.
00:34:11.540They hate the MAHA movement, as you say.
00:34:14.200They basically hate children's health defense.
00:34:16.140And they lie about what's really happening in the world. This is sort of in part about this new Politico poll that came out, progressive left poll of close to 4,000 people that found that 46% of the American people say mandates are dangerous, they're damaging, and vaccine science isn't settled. And of course, science is never settled.
00:34:41.520So we're reaching a tipping point, and the New York Times is going to stay with orthodoxy
00:34:46.800and the narrative that vaccines are safe and effective and they save lives until the bitter
00:36:07.580You kind of think about who's actually watching this channel.
00:36:11.220But so the New York Times and MSNBC and all the left wing media is owned by Big Pharma, which is a shift from 20 years ago.
00:36:19.320But they're saying now that their concern is that you've now convinced American people just to look at the evidence and no science is ever settled because it evolves with new information and facts.
00:36:30.140And the thing they're most freaked out about is the is the vaccine mandates and the vaccine schedule, which is Bobby Kennedy's got it under assault.
00:36:40.080Well, listen, we've seen this before, Steve.
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