Bannon's War Room - Episode 5317： Breaking The Deepstate And Lawfare Against MAGA

00:00:00.000 make sure i don't want to have anybody leave unhappy please sit down

00:00:05.840 in no place like this right the white house coach what do you think pretty good right i meet all

00:00:10.560 these golfers over here i said what are your handicaps plus four i say plus four plus five

00:00:15.120 even it's just that's good stuff he actually said higher than that i said you got to be kidding me

00:00:21.200 right that's great great congratulations great team i heard about the team and i heard about

00:00:26.320 all the teams this afternoon were joined by not one not two but seven collegiate championship

00:00:33.040 winning teams from all across the country champions every one of them and these are student athletes

00:00:40.320 that have demonstrated remarkable talent and discipline and we're born a little bit lucky

00:00:45.600 with talent because i'm not sure coach i'm not sure i look at all these great coaches that have

00:00:49.600 these records 40 and 1 37 and 2 pretty good records but we're talking and i guess you probably have

00:00:57.600 to have a little something something very special because what you are and what you do is very

00:01:02.880 special to the winners here today welcome to the white house a very very incredible place i pinch

00:01:09.760 myself every time i walk through the white house i say this place is really something and it's a

00:01:15.120 great honor to have you because you're very amazing people among those joining us this afternoon are

00:01:20.800 the 2025 division one men's golf champions why don't you stand up when i introduce you for a

00:01:27.600 second you got all the fake news back there so you know you never they'll treat you better than

00:01:32.400 they treat me they're going to treat you better than they treat me and that's uh oklahoma state

00:01:40.560 cowboys and i just said that i won oklahoma 77 at a 77 county second was ronald reagan so i'm very

00:01:47.920 proud of that it's somehow they liked me in oklahoma i don't know what that is sit down coach

00:01:52.600 great job the incredible team showcased consistency grit and precision all season long led by

00:01:59.960 head coach alan bratton alan unbelievable the cowboys dominated throughout the spring capturing

00:02:06.800 multiple victories before securing their 12th national title amazing they have made oklahoma

00:02:12.760 state very proud and it's a great school and it's a great great sports school too with some

00:02:17.700 unbelievable champions and teams and you're right at the top congratulations it's great i'll have to

00:02:23.100 play golf with you guys sometime i'm going to try giving you a match i think it's going to be tough

00:02:27.340 this one i don't this is a match i'm not looking forward to and anytime you're around you let us

00:02:32.460 Now, okay, we'll let you go over to the place I told

00:02:35.160 you about, a special place on the Potomac River.

00:02:37.400 Okay?

00:02:38.840 Joining us as well are the 2025 NCAA Women's

00:02:41.960 Volleyball Champions, the Texas A&M Aggies.

00:02:47.500 Thank you.

00:02:47.940 Good.

00:02:48.240 Stand up.

00:02:48.780 I watch — when I watch television, I watch

00:02:55.220 the level of talent.

00:02:56.360 It's actually incredible.

00:02:57.520 And you're the best of the best.

00:02:58.660 So that's an amazing thing.

00:03:00.960 And from the opening serve to the final point

00:03:03.620 of the national championship,

00:03:05.200 the Aggies played with heart and determination.

00:03:08.460 Everybody here played with heart and determination, really.

00:03:11.840 They dominated the tournament,

00:03:13.200 sweeping top-seeded Kentucky to claim.

00:03:15.500 Why were they top-seeded? What's going on?

00:03:17.880 What's going on? I don't like that.

00:03:20.920 To claim the program's first-ever national title. 0.99

00:03:24.780 Kendall Stowers was an offensive powerhouse. 1.00

00:03:27.880 Where's Kendall? Where? Really? 0.99

00:03:30.780 Are you a powerhouse? Yes.

00:03:33.040 I can tell you, you are indeed a real powerhouse

00:03:36.860 and champion and senior opposite hitter.

00:03:40.460 Logan Lednicki delivered 11 kills against Kentucky.

00:03:45.220 Where's Logan? Congratulations.

00:03:48.160 So how tall are you, Logan?

00:03:49.500 I'm 6'3.

00:03:50.840 The President": Wow, that's pretty good, let me tell you.

00:03:54.240 But I want to congratulate what great athletes.

00:03:56.400 Thank you very much. Great athletes. Please.

00:03:59.800 Also in the winner's circle, we have the 2025 NCAA men's tennis champions, the Wake Forest,

00:04:07.240 Demon Deacons, and Arnold Palmer was a great friend of mine in a slightly different sport.

00:04:15.480 How's your golf team doing? I don't know. They're pretty good, right? They're pretty good too.

00:04:22.120 But they battled through the fierce postseason to claim their second national title, DK

00:04:27.560 Suresh delivered the clinching point to CLA 4-2 victory over TCU in the final and I want to

00:04:34.780 congratulate you and I see you right there I said who's the best player to the team and they all

00:04:39.720 pointed to him right so congratulations and that's really incredible DK what you've done

00:04:45.400 you had a great year you all had a great year thank you very much good you know Arnold Palmer

00:04:51.480 was a great friend of mine I got to know him toward the end of his life he was an unbelievable

00:04:55.460 champion went to that school right he went to that special school and he

00:05:00.440 used to love it and it's known for that it's it really was something I've been

00:05:06.320 there up next are the 2025 NCAA women's tennis champions the Georgia Bulldogs

00:05:12.740 who just captured their third national titles

00:05:18.040 right? Sophia Rokas sealed this team's incredible victory, losing her first set before roaring back 0.99

00:05:27.740 to dominate the next two and clinch Georgia's sweep over the team from Texas A&M. And all I

00:05:34.380 can say is go Bulldogs. It's a great state. I love that state. Did very well there too in the

00:05:39.800 election. You know, I only like the states that I win, so it's one of those. But thank you very

00:05:44.740 much congratulations that's really fantastic what a great job that's not easy winning in tennis

00:05:50.100 that's a that's a tough thing to do i play tennis a little bit not quite at that level not quite

00:05:55.480 but it's a great thing congratulations thank you very much for being here thank you

00:06:00.840 also with us are the 2025 national collegiate women's bowling champions they gave me a beautiful

00:06:07.760 jacket the youngstown state penguins you know the jacket's been gone over where are you

00:06:14.740 The jacket's been x-rayed, gone over by Secret Service at a level that doesn't look the same.

00:06:20.820 It just doesn't.

00:06:21.900 They've gone over it to levels that you wouldn't believe.

00:06:25.940 But I want to thank you very much.

00:06:27.200 Welcome.

00:06:27.540 We're going to go back to the president.

00:06:29.080 He may take some questions on Iran right now.

00:06:36.380 He's awarding all the non-football, non-basketball champions, and they're great, of NCAA.

00:06:42.660 But we've got so much going on today.

00:06:44.740 The great Dr. Peter Navarro joins me in studio.

00:06:47.580 Here's what I want to do.

00:06:48.700 We're going to do a cold open, and then I'm going to come to you.

00:06:54.340 You actually sat in the hearing today.

00:06:55.700 Senator Schmidt's also going to be with us.

00:06:57.360 But we will go back to the White House as soon as the president starts taking,

00:07:02.700 if he does take questions, he may not.

00:07:04.240 Let's go and play the cold open for Dr. Peter Navarro.

00:07:06.760 A man who played a key role in President Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election

00:07:11.260 returned to Capitol Hill to testify about that very case.

00:07:16.080 Jeffrey Clark was named as an unindicted co-conspirator

00:07:19.300 in special counsel Jack Smith's probe into fake electors scheme.

00:07:23.460 He was pardoned by President Trump last year.

00:07:26.740 And now, Republicans are giving him another platform in Washington

00:07:30.160 as they take issue with Smith's investigation.

00:07:33.680 But Democrats say Clark is bubbling over with conspiracies.

00:07:37.960 He has an idea, a theory, that the Chinese were hacking smart thermostats in the United States.

00:07:47.360 Another theory he has, the CIA was working with Italian contractor to use military satellites to change votes in America.

00:07:57.340 Another conspiracy theory, he even wanted to help Trump declare a national emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.

00:08:05.080 We are extremely fortunate in America that Mr. Clark's conspiracy theories and efforts failed.

00:08:12.300 Chris, this hearing was a trip into bizarro world where Republican senators who really should know better essentially tried to make the case that the Jack Smith investigation of Donald Trump's alleged conspiracy to try to overturn the 2020 election,

00:08:26.720 which involved a lot of figures, including Jeffrey Clark, was somehow an improper weaponization full of misconduct by career FBI agents and prosecutors.

00:08:36.600 There's no evidence of that, no matter how hard they try to argue it.

00:08:40.260 And what was so interesting about this hearing is that, you know, they bring Jeffrey Clark to testify.

00:08:44.760 Jeffrey Clark tried to essentially co-opt the Justice Department into claiming fraud when there was no fraud.

00:08:50.620 And he was indicted in Georgia over those allegations.

00:08:54.440 And he was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the Jack Smith case.

00:08:58.260 And had he succeeded, there might have been a very different outcome in 2020.

00:09:03.000 But the fact is, Donald Trump wanted to make him attorney general.

00:09:05.580 But every single senior official in Donald Trump's Justice Department threatened to resign if he did that.

00:09:10.760 And Trump backed down.

00:09:12.160 And now these Republican senators are trying to make Jeffrey Clark into some kind of hero and victim.

00:09:17.300 He's facing disbarment in Washington, D.C.

00:09:19.820 Mr. Clark, the White House visitor log only appeared to record appointments with you on December 22nd, 2020, and January 3rd, 2021.

00:09:29.900 But we know you had more conversations with President Trump between those dates because Deputy Attorney General Donahue reprimanded you on January 2nd, 2021, for continuing to violate Department of Justice White House contacts policy.

00:09:44.580 Mr. Clark, what was your primary form of communication with President Trump during this time period?

00:09:49.820 Senator, I'm not going to answer questions about my communications with the president while I was in the executive branch.

00:09:55.280 That's privileged.

00:09:56.940 You can't even tell us that you had a conversation? You've already volunteered that.

00:10:01.360 The public information that's come out about that in terms of what was in the January 6th report is one example.

00:10:10.040 I won't dispute that, but I'm not going to tell you exactly when I talked to him, how I talked to him.

00:10:16.220 These are all privileged matters.

00:10:18.540 There was a conversation where President Trump indicated he would appoint you acting attorney general in person or not.

00:10:24.620 Again, Senator, you're asking about matters that are privileged.

00:10:27.520 I do want to say something about Jack Smith, because the single most salient fact in regard to me of Jack Smith is that he referred to me initially in the indictment against Trump as unindicted co-conspirator number four.

00:10:39.620 And after the Supreme Court's decision in Trump v. United States, he issued, he got a superseding indictment, and it dropped all reference to me.

00:10:48.120 And the D.C. Barr similarly should have immediately dropped his case.

00:10:51.020 If only we could get him under oath to ask a question like that.

00:10:54.160 Well, it sounds like that's coming, Senator.

00:10:55.920 Yeah.

00:10:56.600 In any event, in terms of, I did not speak to current Director Patel in his former office.

00:11:02.920 I did speak to DNI head Radcliffe.

00:11:07.000 Did you make any contact with the FBI, as he suggested?

00:11:11.600 There was no time to do that before the meeting on January 3rd that you referred to.

00:11:16.420 When I spoke to him, it was January 2nd. 0.71

00:11:18.920 Does it in some way endorse his wild and ridiculous ideas?

00:11:26.180 Well, it's a case of misplaced priorities, Chris, to be honest with you.

00:11:29.800 I mean, you have spent a lot of time in recent weeks talking about the president's polling and his almost record low favorability ratings and the things that people care about are economic issues.

00:11:43.780 And what's so interesting about the Senate Judiciary Committee is that it has oversight of antitrust issues.

00:11:50.260 And there have been a lot of reports in recent days about possible collusion amongst big egg manufacturers, egg-producing companies.

00:12:01.420 Why not use this time to explore that, right?

00:12:04.000 They have oversight to an extent over oil companies who are making record profits right now.

00:12:11.020 So, you know, it is I don't care what or how Jeffrey Clark tries to, you know, change how he is perceived by history is not going to work.

00:12:24.580 And Senate Republicans really are just missed a real messaging opportunity to show how they're fighting for the for the American public and what's top of mind for them.

00:12:35.140 okay dr peter navarro you were in uh you were at the uh hearing today you have a

00:12:42.140 strong interest in this and other players put us in the room

00:12:45.360 schmidt senator schmidt that guy is off the charts i'm so happy that your audience is going to hear

00:12:54.740 from he gave the most concise and eloquent explanation of the weaponization of government

00:13:01.240 The importance of what Senator Grassley is doing in a series of hearings cannot be overstated, Steve.

00:13:10.500 Watergate, if you think about it, was just a small burglary.

00:13:15.100 Some documents, some photographs, this.

00:13:20.040 What Grassley is going to prove is that this was a stolen presidency.

00:13:28.620 this is the biggest conspiracy this country has ever seen and it's really interesting

00:13:36.440 you listen to these cold opens everybody's trying to obfuscate what happened so let me

00:13:41.020 let me try to put this in perspective and i speak from from the perspective of somebody who went to

00:13:46.640 prison as a result of this weaponization so you can think of me as a dot in a matrix

00:13:53.960 you're a dot

00:13:55.960 I'm a dot

00:13:57.000 and these operations

00:13:59.300 I'm a bigger dot

00:14:00.120 you got about 50 pounds on me

00:14:03.800 I'm looking at right now

00:14:05.620 hang on, hang on, we're going to go to break

00:14:07.720 I want to give you plenty of runway

00:14:09.480 I get as good as I get brother

00:14:11.160 you keep throwing my way

00:14:12.800 I was so proud of the fact that you

00:14:15.780 went down there today to sit through this

00:14:17.580 and I'm glad that they turned it over to

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00:16:25.400 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:16:28.380 See, no good deed goes unpunished.

00:16:31.100 I get Navarro back here.

00:16:32.280 I say, come on over from the White House.

00:16:33.860 You've been at the hearing all day.

00:16:35.080 We'll put you in the room. 0.70

00:16:35.960 First thing he does, take a shot at me. 0.99

00:16:38.140 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:16:38.760 You took a shot at me.

00:16:40.020 I think the way I recall that was you took the shot at me.

00:16:44.080 All I did was do what Trump does.

00:16:46.100 You're a counterpunch, baby.

00:16:49.220 I'm the second best counterpuncher in the White House.

00:16:51.580 You're the seven-day-a-week guy.

00:16:53.240 Even with your new bride, you were seven days a week.

00:16:55.900 For you to take off and go up to our hearing is a big deal.

00:16:59.060 It's a big deal.

00:16:59.700 Why did you do that?

00:17:00.580 Because this effort that Grassley's leading, John Solomon, is a real catalyst on this.

00:17:08.720 The DOJ and FBI are finally coming around to this.

00:17:14.640 And what this is, is this.

00:17:16.600 OK, what we have, Steve, is a stolen election.

00:17:21.360 Let's be clear about that.

00:17:22.460 There's no question about that.

00:17:24.280 But what we have more broadly is a weaponized government.

00:17:28.340 And today they talked about Arctic Frost, which is like this federal operation that was a foundation of Jack Smith's electric case.

00:17:38.720 against Trump, which also ensnared all these other folks like John Eastman, Jeff Clark,

00:17:45.160 and all of that in all these different states, right? So what's interesting about this is,

00:17:50.560 for example, five people, John Crabb, Walter Giordina, Jonathan Suh, Tebow, and Tolman.

00:17:58.560 Who are these people? Well, Crabb's the guy who prosecuted you and me, sent us to prison.

00:18:02.820 Giardina is the FBI agent who put me in leg irons and the arm that I take down.

00:18:11.140 Jonathan Suh is the White House deputy legal counsel who took away you and my right for executive privilege as well as the president.

00:18:21.440 And Tebow was like the guy who oversaw all this, and Tolman was part of that whole process.

00:18:28.000 Now, what do we learn from them?

00:18:30.240 Well, it turns out that we're dots in this matrix, and those guys, as they were going after us, it turns out that they appear, according to whistleblowers, involved in all the other things.

00:18:42.340 This was a sustained chronic attack on the president that began with the Russia hoax, began with the Steele dossier.

00:18:50.820 Follow me here, Warham.

00:18:53.140 Crossfire hurricane.

00:18:54.000 Crossfire hurricane.

00:18:55.120 That's the first one.

00:18:56.080 Now, Walter G. Adonina, the FBI agent who put me in leg irons and was involved with you as well, he was the guy who read the Steele dossier, according to whistleblowers, and said, this is true, when we know it was, like, absolutely false.

00:19:14.860 And what that did was set in motion Crossfire Hurricane and eventually the Mueller report, and he worked on that, right?

00:19:25.100 And then you go, and there's all these other operations.

00:19:29.340 There's Crimson River, a.k.a. Red Massari.

00:19:32.200 There's the Art Frost one.

00:19:33.800 And what's interesting, Steve, is all these guys that Grassley's uncovering whistleblowers are involved in not just one of them, but in all of them, okay?

00:19:45.080 All of them.

00:19:45.980 So this was like this sustained effort.

00:19:48.140 It went like for years.

00:19:50.200 And don't bury the lead.

00:19:51.160 It goes all the way to the White House.

00:19:52.900 This is not some independent DOJ or FBI.

00:19:55.300 Jonathan Suh, this guy is a shadowy dealer, right?

00:19:59.980 And after, interestingly enough, after he tried to take away executive privilege from me, you, and the president, he got out of the White House because he knew that he was coming down.

00:20:12.360 But before that, he was also involved in all this other stuff.

00:20:16.620 So what's going to happen here is as we get more and more of these emails that see the communication between all of these folks, we're going to see possible felonies.

00:20:29.860 For example, one thing this FBI agent Giardina might have done was violate the rules of getting information and looking at all the wiretaps.

00:20:43.200 Now, keep in mind, keep in mind, this stuff, Watergate was like one wiretap at the DNC, right?

00:20:53.140 This thing, Arctic Frost, involved hundreds and maybe thousands of illegal looks at people like everybody at the RNC.

00:21:05.860 I had to laugh out loud when I saw this one.

00:21:07.680 They they went after the Republican attorneys general.

00:21:12.980 OK, everybody who was in the Republicans attorney general.

00:21:16.980 That organization. I mean, that's unbelievable.

00:21:19.660 And so in this country, when you have an entire government, White House, Congress, and judges, by the way, all pushing along this apparatus, the process, one of the things Schmidt said that was beautiful today, the process is the punishment.

00:21:43.060 And the goal isn't isn't, you know, the ultimate goal was to stop Trump from getting back the White House.

00:21:49.700 But one of the ways to do that is basically through the lawfare that takes all.

00:21:56.120 Yeah. He's the king on the chessboard. But it's going to bankrupt.

00:21:59.060 We're pawns and rooks and so much of this art across and what they did under Biden in 21.

00:22:06.000 But some of that, as I talked to Solomon today, a big hunk of this happened on Trump's watch when he was the head of the I mean, it's Chris Ray.

00:22:15.960 It's Bill Barr. Hang on.

00:22:17.680 You got you got now you got Thune who won't turn over the memos of or the testimony, the official testimony of Brennan.

00:22:25.900 So then we get that rolling.

00:22:27.560 You've got the Republican establishment that is and you saw the Democrats in all their glory today, Welch and Durbin and that crowd.

00:22:34.220 But the Republican establishment, except for a handful of people, most of whom are on this committee, are one of the biggest blocks of making some progress on this.

00:22:44.160 Are they not, sir?

00:22:44.780 See, we can see that even now.

00:22:46.720 The DOJ and the FBI, they've got to rapidly increase their cadence here, okay?

00:22:52.320 Because they've been holding on to stuff.

00:22:56.300 I mean, Solomon's like a bulldog on this stuff.

00:22:58.780 Cash tells us, he told Maria Bartiroma, two weeks, coming shortly.

00:23:03.200 Yeah. Well, yeah. She was bracing him up, right? And she's sitting there frustrated because I want to forget about accountability.

00:23:10.800 I want to show me the money. I want to see. I want to see. But here's my point is that this thing that Grassley's doing is he's uncovering all of the backwaters of these agencies where these deep staters live and suppress things.

00:23:27.220 And that's why these names are important.

00:23:29.600 I mean, I want to see John Craig.

00:23:31.980 You know that guy still works at the DOJ?

00:23:34.980 Can you believe this?

00:23:35.760 I think he works at the D.C.?

00:23:37.580 He works for Pirro.

00:23:38.780 Yes.

00:23:39.320 He works for Pirro.

00:23:40.160 The guy still works there.

00:23:41.440 Why is that? 1.00

00:23:41.800 He prosecuted you and me and was involved in all of the J6 stuff. 0.97

00:23:46.860 You're supposed to have some stroke. 1.00

00:23:48.200 That's why.

00:23:49.100 You work at the White House.

00:23:50.120 Last time I looked, you're an assistant.

00:23:52.140 Hang on.

00:23:52.640 Hang on.

00:23:53.300 Don't work at the DOJ.

00:23:54.680 You're an assistant to the president.

00:23:55.860 Your senior counselor, I think that's the equivalent of a major general.

00:24:00.140 This ain't about me.

00:24:00.880 I'm just bringing the news.

00:24:03.960 This is my version of just the news.

00:24:06.100 But the point is that as we uncover all of the communications of these deep staters, we are able to connect the dots in a way which shows the biggest conspiracy in American history in terms of politics.

00:24:22.080 Full stop.

00:24:22.980 Full stop.

00:24:23.720 And the Democrats, they keep running away from this. It's like when when Schmidt, Senator Schmidt, finished his eloquent statement today, Welch comes over and immediately he pivots and he says, it's like, oh, I was on the Capitol when all the violence happened.

00:24:40.020 And so somehow that justifies a whole apparatus, a whole government going in and basically put. 0.93

00:24:49.180 It's not stupid. He asked really good. The first question he asked was great, which is, was who won the 2020 election? And of course, that's a very simple answer. I remember the Green Bay sweep. Yes. Joe Biden did not win 2020. Donald Trump won the 2020 election. 0.90

00:25:05.400 The sort of the the illegal and inappropriate certification of those electors in those states, those battleground states, particularly states like Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona.

00:25:21.220 The Navarro report remains unrebutted, unrebutted, unrebutted, that is the best.

00:25:27.680 If you had had document proving the steal, if you had made one tiny mathematical error, Rachel Maddow would spend it.

00:25:35.200 Well, they'd spend a whole hour.

00:25:36.040 Nobody's ever rebutted.

00:25:38.020 Look, I'm thinking that Grassley—

00:25:41.860 This is taking me back six years.

00:25:43.380 I know.

00:25:44.260 A deja vu all over you.

00:25:45.340 But what boggles my mind is like I look—

00:25:49.000 I thought, okay, I'm going through troubles.

00:25:52.380 You're going through troubles.

00:25:53.260 Trump's going through troubles.

00:25:54.680 Eastman's going through troubles.

00:25:55.840 Clark's going through trouble. 0.97

00:25:56.840 But it turns out all those troubles were a handful of the same frigging people 0.98

00:26:03.580 Sure. Turn in the same dials in ways which were flat out illegal and were done for purely partisan reasons. 0.94

00:26:12.100 We're going to have Senator Schmidt on from and really want to thank Senator Schmidt.

00:26:15.660 And by the way, we will go back to the White House and the president takes some questions.

00:26:19.480 He's been in a I think he's been dealing with Iran for most of the afternoon.

00:26:24.360 He took a short break to recognize and and and highlight these the NCAA winners of other sports besides football and basketball.

00:26:38.800 What would you like to see come out of this?

00:26:41.480 Because this hearing was loaded today, although Real America's Voice, we covered it.

00:26:46.340 Fox, I don't think, touched it. Right.

00:26:48.220 Because that's not given, given, given.

00:26:50.560 Fox didn't do the hearing, but they did, to their credit, show some clips of it.

00:26:54.640 Yes, absolutely.

00:26:55.260 It was so powerful.

00:26:56.020 But given their hearing, Steve, there was nobody in the hearing.

00:27:00.520 It sparked my mind.

00:27:01.620 This is the biggest.

00:27:02.940 This makes Watergate look like the minor leagues.

00:27:07.140 But you're going to have to drive that.

00:27:08.700 Yeah.

00:27:09.080 We have to drive that.

00:27:09.840 I think maybe if I get on the war room, we might reach a few people here.

00:27:13.600 So we've got a minute before we go to break.

00:27:15.400 You're going to stick around. 0.99

00:27:16.060 um what do you where do you want to see this go as far as another hearing i want doj to just

00:27:24.340 release all the stuff that folks like uh grassley's asking for and john solomon are asking for and

00:27:31.480 just cut to that chase and then the information will be the best disinfectant man this is going

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00:29:40.500 your host stephen k bann okay you're going to give me a heads up when senator schmidt is seated

00:29:47.140 we're going to play a short cold open like i said we're going to go back to the white house

00:29:50.060 If the president takes any questions, Senator Schmidt is.

00:29:55.260 Senator Schmidt, thank you for joining us.

00:29:56.740 We're going to play a quick cold open with your open today at the subcommittee meeting.

00:30:03.340 And I have Dr. Navar here.

00:30:05.400 Senator Schmidt, that was one of the finest speeches I have ever heard.

00:30:10.940 It just nailed the weaponization themes beautifully.

00:30:14.140 And it was great to meet you.

00:30:15.580 Let's play a quick clip, and we're going to bring the senator in.

00:30:20.060 Who authorized this? How far did it go? Why were these records sought? Why were there secrecy

00:30:25.620 orders used? Why were prosecutors discussing ways around speech or debate protections?

00:30:30.960 Why was the Biden White House communicating with Fannie Willis' team?

00:30:34.900 What was Nathan Wade doing at the White House the same day Jack Smith was appointed?

00:30:40.200 Why did senior Biden DOJ officials end up helping lead the Manhattan case? And what must Congress

00:30:46.600 do to ensure that this never happens again. That argument is not only wrong, it's dangerous.

00:30:52.560 There is a fundamental difference between weaponizing the government and holding the

00:30:57.440 weaponizers accountable. Weaponizing government means using subpoenas, search warrants, secrecy

00:31:03.680 orders, prosecutions, and federal power to punish your political opponents. Holding the weaponizers

00:31:10.000 accountable means exposing that abuse, demanding answers, and restoring the rule of law. Weaponizing

00:31:16.360 government means turning law enforcement into a political weapon. Oversight means Congress doing

00:31:21.600 its constitutional duty to make sure that that weapon is never aimed at the American people again.

00:31:27.780 That is why this hearing matters. Because if the government can secretly map, burden, and punish

00:31:33.020 the political opposition, then political opposition in America is tolerated only until it becomes

00:31:39.080 effective. And if Congress cannot investigate that, then oversight is dead, accountability is dead,

00:31:45.700 and the weaponizers win, and we will not let that happen.

00:31:50.340 Senator Schmidt, given you're many times here on the show,

00:31:53.220 the audience knows that you're a man of action,

00:31:56.220 and I think that's what really what we did the live stream today.

00:31:58.780 People were very excited that you chaired this

00:32:01.300 and that you came at it with a no-nonsense attitude.

00:32:05.020 Can you summarize what you believed you learned today

00:32:08.720 and what is our path forward, sir?

00:32:12.080 Well, I think that the more we learn about it,

00:32:15.520 the more terrifying this whole operation was. I think we had some sense of the timeline and the

00:32:20.520 arc of the story, which, of course, Jack Smith, two days after President Trump announces he's

00:32:25.240 running for president again, is appointed as special counsel. We see all these zombie cases

00:32:30.380 resurrected in these jurisdictions that are rigged with prosecutors who want to jail their chief

00:32:36.200 political adversary and President Trump throw him in jail for the rest of his life. But I think the

00:32:40.480 more we learn, Steve, about this is how broad in scope it was. This wasn't just about President

00:32:46.540 Trump. This was about going after the American right, intimidating. And I think ultimately what

00:32:53.040 Jack Smith wanted was a big time show trial where everybody's brought in. I mean, think of

00:32:58.700 just sort of this Soviet style sense of justice. That's what he really wanted. And he thought he

00:33:04.420 was like the main character. He was the good guy. Jack Smith's a dirtbag and he's a villain in this

00:33:09.100 story. And I think we need to expose that. I also think that we need to have Jack Smith come before 0.94

00:33:14.200 that committee. But in order to do that, all these documents that we're gathering, these hearings are

00:33:18.340 really important because as a prosecutor, former attorney general, you want to have as much

00:33:21.880 information as you can before Jack Smith is under oath on that witness stand. And we ask him a bunch

00:33:27.260 of questions about what this was about. But I think we know this was at the highest level,

00:33:31.380 a thousand times worse than Watergate, Steve. I mean, this makes Watergate look like a third

00:33:36.100 rate burglary uh which was this is at the highest levels of government a coordinated effort with

00:33:42.560 different prosecutors in different jurisdictions with jack smith a known sort of henchman in all

00:33:47.280 this was to get president trump get him off the ballot throw him in jail for the rest of his life

00:33:52.480 and intimidate the rest of our movement so that this populist movement that we've seen that was

00:33:56.940 brought to bear 10 years ago uh is dead and what they ended up doing because the american people

00:34:02.840 sat in that jury box themselves, Steve, they rendered their own verdict. And it was an acquittal

00:34:07.640 and bringing back in the best political comeback, President Trump. So we cannot let this lie. I don't

00:34:13.880 think we can let this go because we have to make sure that the people who weaponize government are

00:34:18.180 held accountable. And that means prosecutions as far as I'm concerned. I want to make sure,

00:34:22.840 because you mentioned like the Moscow show trial in 1935, which is what Jack Smith was drawing to

00:34:28.140 here in washington dc where they had a rig jury uh durbin taunted you today taunted jeff clark

00:34:35.140 on msnbc they're taunting us i just want to make sure your uh your plan is once you get

00:34:43.060 enough documentation is to have jack smith come under oath and be able to answer questions of

00:34:48.680 your subcommittee sir well that would be in front of the full judiciary committee and chairman

00:34:53.120 grassley would have to call for that but that's certainly something that i'm advocating for so

00:34:56.800 we've had three different subcommittee hearings, Steve. I chaired the subcommittee on the

00:35:01.500 Constitution. We had two others where we each time we keep getting more and more documents

00:35:06.280 from whistleblowers. But I think to build that case, to have as much information possible,

00:35:10.660 ultimately the culmination of this Arctic Frost Committee is front of the full Judiciary Committee

00:35:15.480 with Jack Smith in front of that committee. And then after that, we'll see, let the chips,

00:35:19.980 you know, fall where they may. But I do think, and I certainly hope that this broader

00:35:26.220 conspiracy that even predates arctic frost is something that the democrats they thought they

00:35:31.600 were killing a movement they thought they were getting rid of trump and what they did was is

00:35:36.320 they helped bring them back i think because the american people saw this for what it was but we

00:35:39.500 have a job as fact finders i think through this oversight to get as much information as we can

00:35:43.720 in front of jack smith coming for that committee senator you saw welch today you saw durbin the

00:35:50.740 rest of them today but how much cooperation are you getting i think this is one of the frustrations

00:35:55.880 of people they see you take charge of this today it went it i think most people felt it went great

00:36:01.480 but are you getting cooperation from other republicans like there's issues about thune

00:36:06.760 uh holding back senator thune right now they're not releasing some of the testimony of brennan

00:36:12.160 it's all these issues about the grand jury down in florida you've got other issues people are

00:36:17.280 telling me that even your committee is having a tough time on on requests and getting information

00:36:21.500 We know that Tom Fenton and John Solomon are saying they have no FOIA, the Trump administration and some various branches that are slow walking things.

00:36:31.620 Do you think the Republicans overall think like you do and members of your subcommittee that this is a thousand times worse than Watergate?

00:36:41.640 And for the good of our republic going forward, we have to get all the information out and hold people accountable that did this, sir?

00:36:48.640 I think so. But like with any organization, there are some that are more energized and action-oriented than others.

00:36:57.880 Listen, I saw this front and center.

00:37:01.520 Because part of this dragnet, Steve, I mean, you lived it. Peter lived it.

00:37:06.540 At the time, I was chairman of the Republican Attorneys General Association.

00:37:11.040 We had records subpoenaed, unbeknownst to us, when I was chairman.

00:37:14.300 I was also in front of those 2020 election lawsuits.

00:37:18.120 I mean, the damage that they wanted to inflict on anybody associated with this challenge in 2020 or anything after, they were out to ruin people's lives.

00:37:28.300 I don't need any convincing of what the core aspect of the Democrat Party right now.

00:37:32.820 It is just raw political power.

00:37:34.900 That's it.

00:37:35.500 There's no rule.

00:37:36.640 There's no standard.

00:37:39.500 There's no norm.

00:37:40.540 There's no law.

00:37:41.300 They are not willing to break for absolute political control.

00:37:44.360 This is not your grandfather's Democrat Party.

00:37:46.940 This is an obsession with President Trump, and they feel justified, Steve.

00:37:51.960 They feel justified because of Trump derangement syndrome.

00:37:54.460 They're willing to do anything.

00:37:55.680 As they would say, they're willing to bulldoze democracy to save democracy.

00:37:59.900 And so it's our job to hold them to account on that.

00:38:02.920 And we cannot lose sight of that.

00:38:04.580 If we don't think that this is going to happen again, we're fooling ourselves if there are not repercussions.

00:38:09.480 And so I think we've got to be steadfast on this and have that kind of fire in our belly, not just for answers but for true accountability.

00:38:17.200 You know, you're so correct.

00:38:18.460 We're going to cut to the Justice Department.

00:38:19.800 Cash is answering questions.

00:38:21.260 Patel, I think about Southern Poverty Law Center investigation there.

00:38:24.740 We're covering tonight in the next hour of Virginia.

00:38:27.880 As you know, Senator, they're trying to shift a map in the Commonwealth to 10 to 1.

00:38:33.280 I mean, this is not your father or grandfather's Democratic Party.

00:38:37.940 Before we let you go, just any guidance to the War Room Posse?

00:38:41.520 What can they look forward to?

00:38:43.120 Where is this heading?

00:38:44.420 Where are you putting your effort, sir?

00:38:46.460 Uh, I think we're headed towards hopefully a summer or, you know, spring hearing with Jack

00:38:52.180 Smith. And I'm guessing that'll be pretty explosive, but we want to make sure we have

00:38:55.560 all the information possible. We need to pursue this and we need to make sure. And by the way,

00:38:59.580 I also think predating Arctic frost, the really important thing, Steve, is this started, they

00:39:05.480 never forgave president Trump for coming down the escalator. We have to remember that. And whether

00:39:10.700 it was when he was a candidate and they spied on him or laundering the intelligence documents

00:39:14.540 or Elvis Chan with hiding or threatening to censor and withhold the Hunter Biden laptop when they knew it was real.

00:39:24.940 This was an ongoing effort because they resented not just President Trump, but normal Americans where I live in Missouri

00:39:32.080 who were fighting back against the elitists who were stealing our country, shipping our jobs overseas.

00:39:36.580 We had the guts to stand up and fight back.

00:39:38.640 President Trump was our vessel.

00:39:39.980 They never forgave any of us for it, and they weaponized the judicial system against everybody.

00:39:43.620 And that is, I think, the takeaway here. We can't lose sight of what that was about and what it could be again if they ever get power.

00:39:51.280 Senator, people in our audience have a high level of interest in this. How can they follow you? Social media, website, where do they go?

00:39:58.440 Yeah, at Eric underscore Schmidt, S-C-H-M-I-T-T is the X handle that we use, the official one, Senator Eric Schmidt.

00:40:04.640 The other one's my personal. Then on Facebook and then also on Instagram, Eric Schmidt Mo.

00:40:11.020 So we're pretty active on social media. We try to keep people informed with clips, opinions, and we have a little fun with it, too.

00:40:18.480 But this is a pretty serious topic. And like I said, and you know this, this makes Watergate.

00:40:23.780 This is just this is just one hundred, a thousand times bigger than Watergate.

00:40:27.260 There's no question in my mind what the levels they went to to try to get rid of President Trump, to try to, you know, put him in jail and also derail this movement we have.

00:40:36.380 well i gotta tell you from your opening uh comments to tee it up today all the way through

00:40:42.680 the questions and the responses the sense of gravitas i think people realize this is very

00:40:46.960 serious we have serious people running it now senator thank you so much for what you did today

00:40:51.780 and thank you for coming on the war room thank you sir dr navarro got called back to the white

00:40:58.980 house for a meeting as often happens i want to thank peter for coming down here i really want

00:41:02.900 to thank Peter for spending a great piece that Dr. Navarro wrote that was up today in the Federalist

00:41:10.880 I really want to thank Sean Davis and the team over there the Federalist is I think one of the

00:41:15.780 most extraordinary sites out there if you get a chance it's totally free no paywall just like

00:41:21.500 Daily Signal and Breitbart go go there every day Citizen Free Press Gateway Pundit some of the

00:41:28.760 great sites we have on the right national pulse they put up a great piece today at the federalist

00:41:36.280 with dr peter navarre about this not not about economics not about uh not about uh some of the

00:41:43.620 things he's been working on on trade and obviously teeing up everything for this big china meeting i

00:41:48.560 think it may have the china meeting may have a little different tone on it given that president

00:41:53.860 Trump is not backing off the blockade. I don't think it's confusion of what's coming out of

00:42:00.640 Iran. It's what we've talked about here in the war room. And President Trump just put out a

00:42:04.360 true social moments ago saying, hey, look, we kind of shattered the command over there.

00:42:08.240 We don't really know who's in charge. We know they've distributed out the military

00:42:13.120 operation to about 30 nodes. I keep saying the pirates down at Strait of Hormuz, I don't think

00:42:20.480 early report to anybody they've been reporting to themselves for 2 000 years i think they're 0.95

00:42:25.080 still doing now they realize they can actually uh hondo people and get the uh and get two million

00:42:30.940 dollars per vessel they're not going to give that up but the president said uh he's going to extend

00:42:36.180 at least we're not going to attack for a while but the navy's going to keep the blockade up

00:42:42.760 and we are going to um not pull back any of our naval forces so a lot going on today

00:42:50.380 We're going to take a short commercial break here and get into it.

00:42:52.780 At 6 o'clock, we're going to pivot.

00:42:55.380 It's the last hour to the run-up of 7 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time

00:42:59.240 with the polls closed in Virginia.

00:43:02.420 I think people have done.

00:43:03.780 We've got to run through the tape.

00:43:05.080 You've still got a ways to go, but I think people did a very good job today.

00:43:08.940 But we can always do better, and we've got like an hour and 10 minutes to do better.

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00:47:00.080 press conference with both Cash Patel and Todd Blanche on an organization that is about as

00:47:08.120 demonic as you can get, the Southern Poverty Law Center. Can you get us up to speed on what

00:47:11.700 happened, sir? Yeah, I just found out a little while ago, an 11-count indictment by an Alabama

00:47:19.480 a grand jury, including bank fraud, for setting up fictitious companies by SPLC, Southern Poverty

00:47:27.240 Law Center executives, lying about the purpose of those accounts, and then six counts of wire

00:47:32.800 fraud conspiracy to commit money laundering. It looks like Todd Blanche is off to a running start

00:47:38.300 here in his new role. It's a nonprofit, and they need to operate lawfully with transparency,

00:47:44.420 And apparently they didn't do that. And they even paid money to groups like the KKK and the National Front and the National Socialist Movement, the American Front.

00:47:54.240 You know, Steve, I'm standing here in the Capitol Rotunda right under us, that tram where we saw all those Trump clothes strewn about the day of J6.

00:48:02.540 You know, did they have anything to do with busing in any of those groups who started stuff on J6?

00:48:07.400 And then in Charlottesville as well, it was brought up in the in the press conference about Charlottesville, how many plants were bused in in Charlottesville.

00:48:14.420 of groups that got money from the SPLC. And my family has been a victim of the SPLC. We ran a

00:48:20.820 group on Long Island that was targeted by them and also Acts for America and other groups.

00:48:25.620 How many good groups are taken down when in fact they were the evil presence that were paying

00:48:31.420 groups to commit, I believe, acts of violence and other that should come out. And $3 million

00:48:38.780 dollars were paid um to activists uh over an eight-year period uh they went into some detail

00:48:45.880 on that and uh i gotta say um this is really um earth shaking because the left depended on the

00:48:53.000 spLC and you know this guy's a hate group that guy's a hate group their hate speech and they're

00:48:58.520 the ones who were guilty of it allegedly okay we're gonna get to all of that cash and uh and

00:49:06.900 Todd, we're also going to talk in the 6 o'clock hour about what's going on in Virginia in the

00:49:10.720 last hour as we run through the tape. The chairman of the Virginia Republican Party is going to join

00:49:15.060 us and others of these chairmen of these rural counties that have really led the fight, the

00:49:18.500 grassroots effort that led the fight. And so I'm so proud of Todd Blanche, DOJ, FBI, going after

00:49:25.880 Southern Poverty Law Center. There's not a bigger group of demons in the United States than these

00:49:31.320 people, and they all should be in prison. Real quickly, David, because the president is obviously 0.54

00:49:35.540 talking to his military leadership and national security leadership about what we're going to do

00:49:41.400 in Iran, even as we speak. You were there for the budget. Tell me, you were there for the budget

00:49:45.960 meeting today at the Pentagon. What did you learn? It's a large budget. It's about a 42%

00:49:53.040 increase over last year's here. And there's a lot of things in there that focus on shifting from,

00:49:58.700 you know, government bureaucracy to cooperation with the private sector. That was the theme

00:50:03.260 across the board, getting stuff at speed and scale in alignment with Trump's defense

00:50:07.860 executive order, acquisition executive orders to get it to our troops. A lot of money in here that

00:50:13.660 I noticed, one of the things that stood out for me is autonomous warfare. I think there were only

00:50:19.060 a couple of hundred million dollars in that in last year's budget. It's 54 or so billion dollars

00:50:24.540 this year. Drone technology and other autonomous submarine and type vessels, you know, I was at

00:50:30.820 that Anduril facility with Pete Hegseth a few months ago in Rhode Island, underwater autonomous

00:50:35.500 vehicles. And it's a massive budget, but a lot of stuff goes to pay raises for our troops on a

00:50:41.540 sliding scale, depending on your rank, improving their housing and living conditions. But the other

00:50:46.120 thing that really struck me here is the Navy's concentration, $65 billion for the Trump battleship

00:50:52.380 type program, the Golden Fleet and other things here. The Navy presentation was very, very

00:51:00.180 impressive, Steve. 291 ships currently in our inventory, but they're going to be speeding up

00:51:06.520 the delivery of these capabilities there. And it was just a comprehensive presentation.

00:51:13.980 Sounds like they're pretty motivated. We'll see if it gets through the House Armed Services Committee.

00:51:19.960 Hegseth is scheduled to testify, I think, next week with General Cain, maybe on the 29th,

00:51:25.380 in front of the House Armed Services Committee,

00:51:27.280 and we'll see if this budget, $1.5 trillion, can get approved.

00:51:32.920 It's just, you talk about the fleet and the operational tempo.

00:51:35.920 When I entered the service during the Carter years,

00:51:39.400 I think the fleet was 252 ships.

00:51:41.360 President Reagan made a commitment to build a 600-ship Navy,

00:51:44.400 and that's one of the reasons we brought down the evil empire.

00:51:48.040 The tempo we have today, you just can't do it with 291 ships.

00:51:50.960 It's impossible.

00:51:51.960 David Zier, your social media,

00:51:53.660 Where do people go to get your reporting, sir?

00:51:57.080 At Dave Zier on X and David Zier on everything else, Steve.

00:52:00.920 Thank you so much.

00:52:02.300 Thank you, brother.

00:52:03.060 Appreciate you.

00:52:03.880 Okay, we're going to go to the Commonwealth of Virginia,

00:52:06.580 where, no doubt, one of the most important elections,

00:52:11.420 I think in recent times, are taking place

00:52:14.120 because this could really refocus and shift the House of Representatives.

00:52:18.420 They're running 100% on impeaching President Trump.

00:52:21.900 So we're going to talk to some of the top activists that have been driving this,

00:52:26.800 and they have done yeoman work.

00:52:28.120 These people are patriots and heroes.

00:52:30.220 Also, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nest of demons. 0.97

00:52:35.920 The people that donate are demons. 0.97

00:52:37.800 The people that work there are demons. 1.00

00:52:39.640 The crooks that run it are demons. 0.99

00:52:41.940 And these demons need to go to prison. 0.93

00:52:44.180 We started the process today over at the Justice Department with the FBI

00:52:48.260 and the Attorney General of the United States

00:52:50.000 or the Acting Attorney General.

00:52:51.480 Short commercial break.

00:52:52.620 We're going to be back in the war room.

00:52:54.240 Just a moment.

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Bannon's War Room - April 21, 2026

Episode 5317： Breaking The Deepstate And Lawfare Against MAGA

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