00:00:29.000i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and
00:00:36.680what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's
00:00:45.720your host stephen k bannett okay wednesday 22 april year of early 2026 um yesterday with
00:00:56.120everything going on, one of the most important items, and we played this in the six o'clock hour,
00:01:02.660I was able to play the press conference, was the Southern Poverty Law Center. One, this is a demonic
00:01:09.340organization, but number two, it also shows you that there's been a pivot and we are going on
00:01:14.440offense because it's the real hit of a lot of darkness. We've got a short cold open. Let's go
00:01:18.940and play it. I've got Tyler O'Neill from the Daily Signal and Blake Neff from the Charlie Kirk show,
00:01:25.320So the co-hosts are going to join me here momentarily with Posobiec.
00:01:28.720Let's go and play the cold lines of that.
00:01:30.920I mean, right before the show just started, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is a 55 year old civil rights organization, was just indicted by this Department of Justice over alleged use of paid informants and extremist groups.
00:01:46.240Basically, they were indicted, I guess, for paying informants to infiltrate groups like the KKK.
00:01:53.120Are we not supposed to pay the informants?
00:01:54.500Help me understand what's going on here.
00:01:56.540Yeah, it's not entirely clear because, you know, in order to have a wire fraud investigation or wire fraud indictment, you actually need a false statement.
00:02:02.660It's not obvious to me what the false statement is here.
00:02:05.000It seems like they're above board and paying these informants, even if there are unsavory characters.
00:02:12.220You know, the main thing that the Department of Justice benefited from in bringing this case is that they were able to do so in the Middle District of Alabama, you know, where you were able to get a friendly grand jury.
00:02:22.040But when you see similar kinds of investigations and prosecutions happening in D.C. here in Eastern District of Virginia, they've really struggled.
00:02:30.320And so I think this is one of the rare cases where one of these political prosecutions might have some legs, unfortunately.
00:02:46.560While all that's happening, where they're bringing all these charges, you have this government claiming, as it did coming in, as it left the last time coming in this time, about the weaponization.0.85
00:02:56.640How Joe Biden had weaponized the government against those po little Republicans out there, those po-po Republicans who got weaponized by all these bad, bad Democrats.
00:03:08.960And then you had, you know, what might have been if Kamala Harris had gotten elected.0.93
00:03:41.720The bulk of the 800 page document consists of anodyne emails among career career attorneys.
00:03:47.640That is people who serve across multiple administrations, which you know them very well of both parties, which it spins into an unsubstantiated narrative of bias.
00:04:00.840800 pages to tell us that this was a load of crap by the Trump administration.0.97
00:04:06.860Tyler O'Neill, you've written a great piece of Daily Signal.0.96
00:04:10.340Talk to me about it because they're trying to dismiss it all last night and then this morning of this really starting to hold the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is a totally demonic organization.
00:04:21.960Yeah, no. Hearing MSNOW come out and say that there's no smoke, that there's no fire to this smoke is hilarious.
00:04:30.840I mean, they clearly haven't actually read the indictment because the indictment clearly states that there was false statements, that the SPLC created shell companies through which to fund these white supremacists.
00:04:46.000So yes, perhaps there isn't anything technically illegal. There's something very, very stinky about going to your donors and saying, oh, we're fighting hate, we're fighting white supremacy, and then funding the KKK under the table.0.68
00:05:00.540I mean, some of these claims, and maybe that overall thing is not illegal, but what is illegal is setting up the shell companies to hide it and then conspiring to hide it further, which is another charge in the indictment.0.95
00:05:15.960And the other thing is, even if it isn't illegal, it still stinks to high heaven.
00:05:22.760I mean, the SPLC was funding and directing one of the leaders of the Charlottesville white nationalist activity.
00:05:31.880I mean, this is like talk about funding and fake false flags here.
00:05:37.880The SPLC funded this person to bring more people to the white nationalist side on Charlottesville.0.98
00:05:44.460You know, I think of how much crap President Trump got for saying there were fine people on both sides.0.93
00:05:50.480Both sides, by the way, of the argument about removing statues of Robert E. Lee, that's what he was talking about.0.97
00:05:56.900But here, you know, we have the SPLC funding one particular side, and it's not the side that they claim to be supporting.
00:06:07.320Tyler, hang on. I want everybody to read the piece that Tyler O'Neill's got about the Daily Signal.
00:06:11.200Blake, let me bring you in. Blake Neff, explain to the audience exactly what are we talking about?
00:06:16.780I say it's demonic. The Southern Poverty Law Center, and Tyler goes into the specifics of what's in the indictment of what they did.
00:06:24.140Why is that so shocking to people? What does the Southern Poverty Law Center hold itself out to be, and what really are they?
00:06:32.120Well, I would definitely contest that it's shocking. I don't think any of us who've followed it a long time think that it is.
00:06:38.400But, of course, the SPLC, they have presented themselves as a very different organization for a very long time.
00:06:45.820Honestly, it doesn't hurt to go back all the way to the start.
00:07:34.640There's a ton of hysteric people on the left, ready to pony up a ton of money. And what's remarkable is the way that this indictment shows that they were sort of, they were playing both sides of it. I think my favorite part of the indictment, they have a whole list of their secret informants, and one of them is F-30.
00:07:53.280And it describes F30 led the National Socialist Party of America, was a former director of a faction of the Aryan Nations, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
00:08:03.720And the SPLC secretly was paying this person at least $70,000 while they had a page on their website in their extremist file.
00:08:15.020This is one of the people we're fighting against. Please donate money to us so we can fight this person when they were paying him the entire time.
00:08:23.280And of course, the SPLC is shady in a million other ways. In 2018 or 2019, Morris Dees had to step down because people brought sexual misconduct claims against him. And they promised, oh, we're going to bring in a big team. We're going to investigate this. We're going to release a big report. Nothing has ever been mentioned about that since then.
00:08:43.920there's a lot of former SPLC staff who've said this organization is shady so whatever happens
00:08:50.400with this indictment I think the golden opportunity to look at every single thing that goes on in this
00:08:55.260organization you will find a lot of things that stink and look very very bad well I also think
00:09:01.020there's a lot of whistleblowers a lot of people that maybe went down there think it was going to
00:09:04.980went there and thought it was going to be altruistic on the left and turned out it's just a1.00
00:09:09.220group of scumbags. But just for clarity, is the center of gravity in the indictment basically0.95
00:09:16.880saying, because every night on MSNBC, hate is on the rise, white nationalism is on the rise,
00:09:21.780white Christian nationalism is on the rise, is because in their business model, they wanted to
00:09:26.960make sure they juiced it to make sure it was on the rise. And that's where they're funding guys0.80
00:09:31.620in the KKK, guys in the American Nazi Party, guys in these white nationalist organizations to
00:09:36.680basically do that so they've got something to raise money off of? I think there's a bit of
00:09:41.140that for sure. There's also, there's this bit, I mean, you see a defense, USA Today published an
00:09:46.680article saying they used this, they were paying informants. That's a well-known tactic of federal
00:09:51.900law enforcement. Well, the SPLC is not a federal law enforcement organization. They're a non-profit.
00:09:58.040In the indictment, we see someone they were paying, someone they paid over a million dollars,
00:10:02.440in fact. They apparently paid him to apparently commit a crime. He stole many boxes of documents
00:10:09.900from a building owned by one of these groups and then supplied them to the SPLC. So it's a mixture
00:10:17.460of things where we also see them described as telling someone what to post before the Unite
00:10:23.460the Right rally. It appears this person was making extremist statements with the SPLC's knowledge,
00:10:28.620perhaps their approval or suggestion. And they were also acting like this quasi-law enforcement
00:10:34.860organization, which so many groups on the left have gotten away with, and the SPLC got away with.
00:10:39.660Until the first Trump administration, we had this official relationship between the SPLC and the
00:10:45.800FBI. They would bring them in to train their agents in fighting extremism. Obviously, the real
00:10:51.920purpose of this is it allows this radical left-wing group to define what an extremist group is. And
00:10:58.420they're always going to define it. So the right is extreme. The left is not extreme. They've always
00:11:03.100had massively more hate groups on the right on any of their trackers than on the left. A very
00:11:09.160sinister organization in that regard. I think a very fair way to characterize the SPLC is they
00:11:15.540themselves are America's leading hate group because their entire business model is based on ginning up
00:11:21.740hatred against other people. Tyler, your observations on this, sir.
00:11:27.960Yeah. So I think Blake hit on a lot of important points. The only real reason I say that this is
00:11:33.420shocking is because I did not expect to see the Southern Poverty Law Center itself cop to funding0.87
00:11:39.740the KKK and the Aryan nations. I mean, this is, you know, you would not expect them ever to admit0.99
00:11:47.040this. But the SPLC, I've covered for years, I wrote the book, Making Hate Pay, The Corruption
00:11:53.000of the Southern Poverty Law Center. And I've long focused on how the SPLC exaggerates hate.
00:11:59.120They go to their donors and say that they're fighting hate. And then when it turns out that
00:12:03.880America actually isn't that hateful, they have to meet that artificial demand that they've created.
00:12:10.780So they have to increase the supply. And for a long time, the most obvious way they increase
00:12:16.260that supply was by demonizing conservative and Christian groups. And this was a weapon that they
00:12:21.940could use not only to say, hey, you need to give us more money, but also to silence people, also to
00:12:27.420bully people, also to terrify people and get companies to debank them, get social media
00:12:33.660platforms to de-boost them. And then now we're seeing that not only did they do that, which is
00:12:39.620egregious and evil and, quite frankly, fits every definition of defamation in my book.
00:12:45.540But also, they were funding the very people that they put up as extremists on their website.
00:12:53.480And then, of course, the Biden administration comes in immediately. I mean, Margaret Wong
00:12:58.520was bragging about how many different agencies brought in the SPLC to train them on the domestic
00:13:06.280terrorism threat. And then later we hear that DOJ prosecutors were even studying with members
00:13:13.920of the SPLC. And of course, there's that anti-Catholic memo that the FBI's Richmond office
00:13:20.120put out directly citing the SPLC. So if you want to find anything when it comes to the weaponization
00:13:27.000of government, the demonization of conservatives, the worst excesses of the left, the Southern
00:13:33.000Poverty Law Center is ground zero. And there are so many more investigations that should come of
00:13:39.700this. And I'm still hoping that one of these defamation lawsuits will finally open the books
00:13:45.600and reveal exactly how corrupt their whole hate map really is. Tyler, where do people get the
00:13:54.260book? Where do they get your writings at the Daily Signal? And how are they following on social
00:13:58.080media. Thanks. Yeah, you can follow me at Tyler2, the number two O'Neill on X is where I'm most
00:14:04.400prolific, but I'm also on Truth Social, also on some other platforms. And you can find the book
00:14:12.280Making Hate Pay, The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center on Amazon and other places,
00:14:17.860and The Woketopus, The Dark Money Cabal Manipulating the Federal Government, which builds
00:18:27.660Well, well, well, Steve, I suppose you could say today is a day that we're going to be focusing on enemies, foreign and domestic.
00:18:35.640And so when we look at those extremists like the SPLC, we need to start asking a few questions here, because when I see that there was two hundred seventy thousand dollars that was paid to a leader of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, not someone, by the way, who is some podunk.
00:18:56.540oh, I'm just giving some reports. No, Steve, that's not the kind of money that you give to
00:19:00.300someone who's writing reports. All right. And I'm saying this as a guy who knows a couple thing or
00:19:04.740two about running intelligence operations. That is for tasks. There was tasking that was given
00:19:12.380to these informants. There was tasking that way they were used for, by the way. And Blake mentioned
00:19:17.520the one earlier here. There was a leader of the Aryan nation they had up in an extremist file
00:19:22.380that they were raising money off of his extremist profile while they were paying him.
00:19:28.940So that's fraud. That is exact wire fraud right there.
00:19:32.660Direct. Take it literally to the bank. In this case, there's also money laundering issues here
00:19:39.300because we see all these shell companies and that's going to be an issue for the Treasury Department
00:19:43.900to have to go and look at when it comes to fines.
00:19:46.180But, Steve, we need to dig in a little deeper here.
00:19:48.920This means every night you go up on MSNBC and they say,
00:19:52.500oh, the extremism is on the rise, extremism on the rise.
00:19:55.940Well, who was actually behind that extremism on the rise?
00:20:14.180We didn't play the end of that clip about the Catholics in abortion.0.58
00:20:17.500Let's go and play this. You know, this is a real problem. There are, I believe, over 200 attacks0.95
00:20:22.720of arson against abortion clinics over 50 years. That averages one to one to about one every three
00:20:28.460months. You know, and so this wasn't just an attack on the general approach of the Department
00:20:33.120of Justice. It was an attack on a specific law and a specific law intended to protect women.
00:20:38.200So that's that report specifically. But you're exactly right about the general thing. You know,
00:20:42.000the strategy here is to say, look, the last guys were overtly political and going after our enemies.
00:20:47.640And we're going to go after our enemies, too.
00:20:49.440And they're trying to legitimize that, especially in the advance of elections.
00:20:53.460The Southern Poverty Law Center did all the initial analysis.
00:20:57.400Now we know it was all cooked to go on the abortion.
00:21:01.420The holiest guys I've ever met happened to be in prison with me that were sent there for praying the rosary in front of these abortion clinics.
00:21:09.220Also, the parish that my parents helped start that is a Latin mass, a Tridentine Catholic right church, is what the Southern Poverty Law Center said.
00:21:22.660These are white nationalist extremists, the most humble folks in the world, every family with eight and nine kids and two or three of them in the Army or the Marine Corps or the Navy.
00:21:32.300Just the most patriotic, the salt of the earth.
00:21:35.260jackie see right there this is a demonic organization and this is just the first of
00:21:41.180many investigations to indict them all indict their donors indict all of it jack vasovic
00:21:46.860and steve that's there's going to be two pieces of that because over on human events daily today
00:21:53.080we're going to be going through chapter and verse and naming the board of directors of the southern
00:21:58.520poverty law center and i'll i'll give this out for the war room audience because i saw that the
00:22:05.200amazing first hour here the energy there was so phenomenal and i just point out that wouldn't it
00:22:09.920be surprising to the war room audience to find out that there is a member one of the co-founders of
00:22:15.840bain capital is currently on the board of directors of the spLC now how does that make
00:22:23.280bain capital wait a minute is that mitt romney wait a minute mitt romney's front well hold on
00:22:27.500a second what's going on i thought that was republican conservative out boston i thought
00:22:31.500That was capitalism. What's going on here? That's that's Wall Street. I don't understand.
00:22:36.880So we're going to be going through and understanding how all the money flowed here, because there's going to be a lot of problems about who knew what, when.
00:22:44.340But, Steve, I want to go back and I want to kind of take a page.
00:22:47.900You know, we don't have Darren Beattie right now because he's serving right.
00:22:52.100He's serving the country and go and look at what he would talk about.
00:22:56.220He would talk about how organizations like the SPLC during the Biden regime and during the Uniparty were used as cutouts for the intelligence agencies.
00:23:07.140When we talk about this relationship between the FBI, the previous FBI, right, and the SPLC, we really need to start asking questions.
00:23:16.120Did they do we really think, Steve, that they just found out about these informants today or was this something that was done at the behest of the previous FBI so that they could launch these organizations so they could stage these things?
00:23:30.760And, oh, by the way, then you have Chris Wray going up in front of Congress and saying, wait a minute, these guys aren't on the federal payroll.
00:23:37.660We don't have any informants in there at all.
00:23:39.800And he can do so with a straight face because they're not federal informants.
00:23:43.980They're SPLC informants working hand in glove with the feds.
00:26:14.820You know, the odd vessel here and there that gets they say this vessel got out. Yeah, it got turned around by the US Navy, you know, half a day later. So that's the reality. That's the signal. That's what matters. And you're talking about shutting down large parts of the industrialized economy. So, you know, we can talk about the war.
00:26:32.000Okay, but hang on. It's closed. Your thing about the signal, it's closed by a bunch of pirates
00:26:40.700who don't even report to Tehran on the Persian side or the Iran side of the strait. It's also
00:26:47.360closed by a magnificent United States Navy that's out in the Gulf of Oman in the North Arabian Sea
00:26:52.340that is closing except to people that we want to go through. Which of those two closures are the,
00:26:58.700I mean, how do you get some sort of rapprochement between those two closures, sir?
00:27:05.100Well, the first thing I would say is it doesn't—great question.
00:29:59.800We got to open that thing up because they're getting choked down right now.
00:30:04.060Isn't the way for us to end it as President Trump just deal directly with Xi and say, hey, look, we don't need to we don't need to get your pride?
00:30:11.180Because as Post and I have been talking on the show and we talked to you about it a week ago, there's not just simply not anybody to get in the room with.
00:30:20.660There's nobody really getting the room with now because we kind of shattered their chain of command that can make a deal and execute on a deal.
00:30:28.340And particularly down in Hormuz, I'm of the opinion, having been down there as a naval officer, that's a group of just pirates that don't feel they report to Tehran.
00:30:38.500and particularly now, and they're making real cash money, and they're like, screw the Revolutionary
00:30:45.440Guard. We got a good deal here, and screw the Americans, sir. Well, see, I agree with you that
00:30:51.400the Chinese Communist Party is very powerful in the United States, more on the Democratic side,
00:30:56.280but, you know, I think they've got their tentacles everywhere, and I agree with that. I think that
00:31:00.860a dialogue between Trump and Xi would be highly constructive, so all in favor of that and talking,
00:31:06.560But I really question, and sort of to your point, you know, Trump says the Iranian leadership is fractured.
00:31:14.040The idea that it's at this point a little bit decentralized, that the guard corps go their own way, the domestic politicians, the parliament speaker, et cetera, may disagree with that.
00:32:05.100But for how long? Again, I come back to something a broken record, but the straits are closed, period. And until that's changed, I don't see it changing.
00:32:15.320And I talked about shutting down industrial economies. Yes. But again, the nitrates, fertilizer, it's planting season. And in poor areas, people are going to starve over this.
00:32:26.520Hang on. And I'm going to get Pasobek here in a second. Hang on. Hang on. You're implying, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're implying that it shut down and until that part of it's over, are you implying that President Trump's got to send the Navy and the Marine Corps and others in strategic bombing and dig them out, dig whoever's controlling the straight Hormuz from those cliffs, right, down near Hormuz in the Persian Gulf, that you're just going to have to at some point in time, if you want to open it, you just got to go
00:32:56.500dig them out? I think that's the only way to do it. Now, I'm not predicting that that's going to
00:33:02.020happen. I don't think it will, but I do agree that that's the only way to do it. The bombing
00:33:07.660campaign, I think Hagseth and Trump should study the seizure of Sarajevo in 1992 and 93.
00:33:16.700The city, I've been there, it's along a river valley. It's kind of strung out, beautiful city,
00:33:22.440But surrounded by hills and mountains, the Serbian Chetniks controlled the mountains.1.00
00:33:26.640The people in Sarajevo were defenseless.1.00
00:39:50.380I've tried to explain this, and you've done such an amazing job here on the war room on human events.
00:39:56.080We call it the sea powers versus the land powers.
00:39:58.800So the sea powers versus the land powers.
00:40:01.000You've got the U.K., then the United States, and Mahan, of course, even though he was British,
00:40:05.580He understood the power of the sea and the power of the strategic lines of communication, these key choke points around the world.
00:40:13.500This is why, by the way, Greenland is so important and the Panama Canal, which will come up when we talk about that hemispheric defense later.0.78
00:40:20.780But President Trump is working to put the United States on that incredibly competitive footing with the entire world, where up until now, we've just been handing it off to the Chinese.0.94
00:40:30.420We've been handing off all of this to the Chinese.0.96
00:40:32.160This is how the British Empire was built. And by the way, it's how the Dutch Empire was built, because they controlled the Strait of Hormuz even before the British. And so when you look at that, it's the land powers on the other side, right? China, Russia, Persia, India, right? These are your land powers. These are that's that's Mackinder. That's the World Island. That's, by the way, what the Ukraine war is about. And of course, we've looked at all this. That's Russia trying to expand their natural borders with Europe, put themselves in a better position, but also to give themselves access to the sea, Odessa, the port.1.00
00:41:02.060there, which we've talked about at length. President Trump gets this. The war room has
00:41:06.580talked about this forever. You've got a couple of Navy officers. I think we know a thing or two
00:41:10.420about what we're talking about when it comes to sea power. That's why the blockade is key. And
00:41:15.220I've had some people try to explain to me, oh, blockade, what's that going to do? Is that just
00:41:19.480a line of ships? No, it's about shutting down their oil revenues. And that regime can only stand
00:41:25.500for what, four weeks, six weeks? How long can they go without getting revenue? How long can
00:41:30.760they actually stay in place before and they came out what today they said two million people in
00:41:35.880iran are without work because of this two million people out of work and eventually those people are
00:41:41.540going to turn out at some point and say you know what maybe i don't like this regime just as much
00:41:45.920maybe i'm not fans of donald trump and the americans but maybe i'm not a fan of this regime as
00:41:49.940well jack i want to hold you through the break because i i want to spend some more time with
00:41:54.380you on southern poverty law center for your bounce in your two o'clock show but my question here is
00:41:58.860When she calls, he's talking to the guy and say he's getting the arms to and the cash to, the mullahs and the, because the Ayatollah probably can't talk given his disfigurement.
00:42:11.640But he's talking to those guys and he says, look, you got to get rid of this Hormuz thing and I'm dealing with Trump on the blockade.
00:42:16.880And they say, yo, we don't control the pirates down there.
00:42:35.120Well, Xi's response is that if anyone's in the problem, it basically, I would say it's a Xinjiangian response where if you've got Uyghurs in the way, you get them out of the way.0.91
00:42:46.880And that's why the Xinjiang and the Uyghurs are so important to them.0.96
00:42:49.600they're trying to build that they're trying to build a railroad between china and iran that's
00:42:54.480why they're so focused on xinjiang xinjiang but by the way you're absolutely correct he's going
00:42:59.820hang on hang on man i co-opted the pirates down in fujan right what do you what do you mean you
00:43:05.400take care of your problems don't don't whine to me you don't go back to the boss and say i can't
00:43:10.200take care of it that's not an appropriate response when they call beijing they say hey that's not a
00:43:14.980problem. That's why those guys are so demonic. Geopolitics in the United States Navy. Much more0.95
00:43:23.440than that later today on the 5 o'clock show. Short commercial break. Poso's going to be on the other
00:43:28.760side. I just want to hit him up one more time for this amazing show. He's going to have at 2 o'clock
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00:52:27.920We may be in a ceasefire, but we're not in a cyber ceasefire, Steve.
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