Bannon's War Room - Episode 5321： Were There SPLC Informants At J6; Fighting The Redistricting In Virginia

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 Mega Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.420 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.200 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.380 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:00:47.800 Thursday 23 April year of our Lord 2026 a lot to get to this morning as every morning uh we're

00:01:00.060 going to do a little different order grab a cold open um in a little while first I want to get to

00:01:05.320 the viceroy's joins us by phone as he hurdles to a meeting Mike Davis two things number one you've

00:01:12.200 been putting up some uh post about the southern poverty law center Jack Posobiec with me did the

00:01:17.660 killer show yesterday on Human Events Daily on the same topic. Your thoughts about the Justice

00:01:24.640 Department finally going on offense and this whole fracas around the Southern Poverty Law Center

00:01:30.740 last night, obviously MSNBC, CNN, and complete total meltdown that the Southern Poverty Law

00:01:37.560 Center will be accused of financial crimes, sir. Here's to Todd Blanche, Trump's acting attorney

00:01:44.460 general who's off to a very very strong start and to cash to tell trump's fbi director who's always

00:01:51.400 great these allegations against the southern poverty law center are damning if they're true

00:01:57.860 because the allegations show that the spLC told its donors that it's fighting racism when in fact

00:02:09.820 it was funding racism. The SPLC was running out of racism in America, and that was hurting its

00:02:18.260 ability to raise money and exert its power. So what did the SPLC do? According to the indictment,

00:02:26.120 as announced by Todd Blanche, they manufactured racism so they can raise more money

00:02:32.700 off of this manufactured racism. That's clear fraud. They're duping their donors. I seriously

00:02:39.280 doubt of these sanctimonious white liberals who are funding the SPLC understand that they were 0.92

00:02:46.740 funding the Ku Klux Klan or the Aryan Nations. And that's exactly what was happening according 0.73

00:02:51.500 to this indictment. And I would say this to these major corporations, these foundations

00:02:59.100 that funds the SPLC, they need to stop immediately because according to this indictment,

00:03:06.300 donating to the SPLC funds the Ku Klux Klan, and it funds the Aryan nations. Do these big 0.55

00:03:13.480 corporations want to explain that to their shareholders, to their boards, to their customers?

00:03:19.300 I seriously doubt it. They are now unnoticed that they have to stop funding the SPLC.

00:03:26.760 Mike, also, if you read the indictment, and a hat tip, as you keep telling us, the special forces

00:03:31.780 of the Justice Department are these U.S. attorneys, a hat tip to the Alabama U.S. attorney that

00:03:37.880 brought this. But according to Todd in Cash, if I read that press conference correctly,

00:03:45.480 this is still an ongoing investigation. Reading the indictment, they think there's a lot more

00:03:49.580 there they can find about this funding and underwriting of racism that the Southern

00:03:54.720 Poverty Law Center is accused of? I mean, I fully expect that they will bring a superseding

00:04:02.580 indictment, which means an amended indictment. I fully expect that SPLC executives and many,

00:04:11.960 many others will be named in a superseding indictment. This is just the beginning. If

00:04:18.360 these allegations are true. It's going to destroy the SPLC. The SPLC will end as an entity and it's

00:04:25.980 going to take down a lot of Democrat politicians in this process. Mike, before I let you go, I know

00:04:33.800 you've got a client meeting. Can you talk to me about your view of what happened in Virginia

00:04:38.560 yesterday with this state circuit court judge or a state judge putting this thing on hold right now

00:04:46.680 saying that it's invalid. Your thoughts? Very clear that the people who pushed that amendment

00:04:54.480 in Virginia, that voter initiative in Virginia, did not follow the procedural steps. They didn't

00:05:01.040 follow the timing requirements. They mislabeled the amendment to deceive voters. It was clearly

00:05:08.620 illegal. This Virginia state trial judge enjoined this, meaning said, do not certify this election.

00:05:15.200 We're not going to change the redistricting right now.

00:05:19.280 It's not going to go from six to five Democrats to 10 to one Democrats in Virginia.

00:05:24.280 We're not going to essentially end the representation of 48% of the state of Virginia.

00:05:32.960 And so it's on hold.

00:05:34.260 Now, that will go up to the Virginia Court of Appeals and ultimately the Virginia Supreme

00:05:39.280 Courts.

00:05:40.740 The Democrats have strengthened Virginia and they have for many years.

00:05:45.000 So they have the advantage right now in the appellate courts just because their Democrat judges are simply partisan actors.

00:05:53.440 But that being said, this trial judge was correct.

00:05:56.860 There are such egregious procedural and substantive violations with this amendment that if these appellate judges actually follow the law, which I don't have confidence they will,

00:06:07.460 and that these appellate judges should affirm that state trial judge and this voter initiative

00:06:13.640 should be nullified and the district should stay the way that they are.

00:06:19.340 Mike Davis, where do you go to Article 3? I know you're on all over all these topics and also

00:06:24.740 social media. Where do people get your vice worry? Thank you, Steve. It's Article3Project.org,

00:06:31.080 Article3Project.org. Donate, follow us on social media, and as always, the War Room Posse

00:06:36.940 superpower is action, action, action. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

00:06:44.000 Pacific, I've got you on for two duties. By the way, we're going to get folks from Virginia on

00:06:47.660 here, too. Two duties today. I just put up, I think, on social media, Charlie Kirk. People have

00:06:54.160 to realize, and this is a seminal moment, you know, a lot of people out there, particularly

00:06:58.920 on podcasts or wherever, you know, there's no action. We're seeing action here. And look,

00:07:03.920 it's an imperfect world um we're seeing action here on the railhead of a lot that is um in back

00:07:13.560 of the color revolution that the deep state has done against the united this republic

00:07:18.460 and uh the southern poverty law center is one of the key players people have been trying to go

00:07:24.460 after that for years and now you got this indictment i put up a charlie kirk because

00:07:28.600 A lot of folks don't remember. They designated Turning Point as a hate group because they saw Charlie Kirk's rise in the grassroots and building an institution, an organization that was absolutely unbelievable.

00:07:45.580 So I want to just step back. Why is this so important that we're finally on offense against the Southern Poverty Law Center, sir?

00:07:53.240 well steve thanks so much for having me on and you're absolutely right that

00:07:58.100 just months before charlie kirk was murdered by this individual who you know uh certainly

00:08:07.780 remember the far left and i'd love to know who was in the discords whether any informants for

00:08:14.360 the spLC or otherwise were in those discords having these chats talking about the hate of

00:08:20.540 Charlie Kirk that he was put on the hate map of Southern Poverty Law Center. And in the wake of

00:08:25.400 Charlie Kirk's murder, there was no organization that I targeted and talked about more than the

00:08:30.880 Southern Poverty Law Center while I was sitting there right next to Charlie's empty chair next to

00:08:35.220 me. These are the ones who incited. Remember, it was the Southern Poverty Law Center who incited 0.59

00:08:40.760 Floyd Lee Corkins to go and shoot up the Family Research Council. And what did he do before he

00:08:46.440 went and shot them up? He went to Chick-fil-A. He went to Chick-fil-A and bought a bunch of

00:08:50.420 chicken sandwiches. Why? Because he wanted to smear the dead bodies with Chick-fil-A sandwiches

00:08:56.180 because these people stood up for traditional marriage. Now, fortunately, there was a security

00:09:00.800 guard, Washington, D.C., who took care of that. Another, how did he look up the Family Research

00:09:05.240 Council? He used the map of the Southern Poverty Law Center, their hate map. Another example,

00:09:11.460 James T. Hodgkinson, who followed the Southern Poverty Law Center on Facebook. What did he do?

00:09:16.840 Oh, that's right. He shot up Steve Scalise in a Republican congressional baseball practice.

00:09:22.520 Rand Paul was there, so many others. And fortunately, he was not able to kill anyone because, of course, they had Capitol Police.

00:09:28.700 They had the protection there. So we've seen the level of violence, the level of incitement that's been done by the SPLC.

00:09:34.560 But there's another level of this, too, Steve. This is where you see big tech and big finance put it coming together to put all of their power against conservatives.

00:09:43.700 Who did PayPal? PayPal, right? Who did the payment processors work with in terms of PayPal? Who owns Venmo? Who did they work with to determine organizations that couldn't use their services for debanking? Oh, right. That was the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:09:59.100 And interesting that the SPLC also was receiving huge donations from one of the founders of Bain Capital, as I mentioned here yesterday, J.P. Morgan, George Soros, Tim Cook, who, you know, former former head of Apple and even George Clooney.

00:10:14.940 And of course, George Soros. So big tech, big finance would work together on this.

00:10:21.460 Why did they label Charlie Kirk? It's simple, because the other angle of this was after the debanking comes what?

00:10:27.780 Oh, that's right, the censorship.

00:10:29.720 So Facebook would work with SPLC.

00:10:32.680 Google works with and continues, as far as I know, to this day, to work with SPLC.

00:10:37.380 Amazon would work with them.

00:10:38.780 So if you want to come up on a Google search without having their article come up first,

00:10:43.800 if you want to have your book sold on Amazon, like they're trying to take,

00:10:47.420 they tried to take down Camp of the Saints on Amazon.

00:10:49.280 Now it's number five, by the way, on their fantastic book.

00:10:53.100 I didn't write it, but I would highly recommend everyone read it

00:10:56.100 because we're all living through it right now.

00:10:57.960 But so Amazon worked with the SPLC, Facebook, Google, all of them.

00:11:02.120 They were all working with these guys to say this person needs to be taken down because they're an extremist.

00:11:07.400 That's what they worked as.

00:11:09.520 It was a government cutout organization with the Biden regime and so many others.

00:11:14.700 They gave the list of the Catholic churches to the FBI that they wanted targeted, including Steve, the one that your parents founded down there in Richmond and so many others.

00:11:22.400 That's what they operated as for years.

00:11:25.880 And so for this indictment, when it comes down, I see people saying, oh, it was just informants and they were just getting reports. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They were paying the leaders of these organizations in some cases to be able to create this false perception that there is this underlying current of hate groups and all these extremists running around in the United States, when instead they were the ones who created it in a Jussie Smollett kind of self-licking ice cream cone,

00:11:53.000 where they created the problem that they then were purporting to solve.

00:11:59.200 That's the fraud.

00:12:00.680 This was not information.

00:12:02.300 This was advocacy.

00:12:03.860 It was activism.

00:12:04.600 And it was leadership of these organizations included up to and including Charlottesville,

00:12:10.420 as far as we know.

00:12:11.640 And I'm going to say it, Steve, I would like to know, and I certainly hope it comes out

00:12:15.400 Discovery, in this case, were there any SPLC informants involved in January 6th?

00:12:23.440 Because it took us nine years now, almost 10 years, almost a decade to get the truth out about Charlottesville.

00:12:29.080 Well, guess what? January 6th, we all knew that that was in operation.

00:12:33.720 Now we need to know who else was working behind the scenes to turn that into what it turned into.

00:12:39.640 jack if you don't somebody talk i want to go back to one that is quite important um the whole setup

00:12:50.040 for the color revolution in the deep state steel of the 2020 they had to have a stooge that was

00:12:57.880 acceptable amenable to the american people as being kind of a nothing burger they they received

00:13:04.040 the laptop from hell in november this is chris ray and bill barr president trump's fbi director and

00:13:10.360 and uh attorney general they got their hands on the laptop from hell in december november and

00:13:17.080 december of 2019 never said a word about it if they had anything leaked to the press which

00:13:22.600 would have been quite easy joe biden would have never been the nominee uh it would have been uh

00:13:28.280 bernie sanders or it would have been bernie sanders or someone else right elizabeth warren

00:13:33.640 focahannes joe biden used as his reason for running was charlottesville which we now know

00:13:44.040 is the veins bulging from their necks he used it for that he went to your beloved philadelphia

00:13:52.760 in front of one of the most sacred places of soil in the American Republic

00:13:59.340 and gave that demonic with the red lighting and talked about exactly this,

00:14:04.540 about he was driven by the hate map, that the extremism of Trump

00:14:08.060 and the Trump movement when Trump was out of office was so overwhelming

00:14:12.140 that it was a major national security problem.

00:14:16.180 It's all phony. It was all created.

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00:16:28.060 Jack, I want to go back to this because the whole Charlottesville thing, the creation of the Southern Poverty Law Center, that Biden used that as an excuse that that's what that's what because Trump is bringing so much racism and having the country about racism when actually the exact opposite.

00:16:52.420 with hispanic and african-american working class particularly men joining the mega movement

00:16:58.500 um and then you know then he went to philadelphia and had that demonic 0.59

00:17:03.540 entire presentation about extremism and white nationalism it's all phony it was all paid for

00:17:11.100 by the southern poverty law center they have to gin this up this shows you how demonic and purely

00:17:18.240 evil these people are these institutions must be destroyed taken and you know metaphorically

00:17:25.260 burned to the ground in the american courts and now on going on offense we must indict

00:17:30.140 the board of directors of southern poverty law center we must i think indict the donors that

00:17:36.040 were on the know because some of these donors absolutely knew what was going on they ought to

00:17:39.700 bring Clooney back from Italy, indict him. They have to indict all the executives of this. These

00:17:48.880 people need to go to prison. They have tried to destroy this republic. These are dangerous people.

00:17:56.120 And Jack just went through how some of the assaults, and trust me, they stirred up, 0.59

00:18:00.940 they put Charlie Kirk and Turning Point on the hate map, just like they put Tridentine Catholics

00:18:07.000 on the hate map because they want you visited by violent individuals, sir.

00:18:14.800 Steve, we have to understand that this the SPLC is a key cornerstone of the political

00:18:20.980 infrastructure of the left. You mentioned when Joe Biden wants to run for president,

00:18:25.480 who does he cite? The SPLC. When the media wants to tell you that someone is an extremist or that

00:18:30.640 white nationalism is the greatest threat on the rise, who do they cite? The SPLC. Chris Wray.

00:18:36.500 was citing statistics that go back to the SPLC when he talked about this, all right? That was

00:18:42.040 our FBI director. Who does training for law enforcement, FBI, for these field offices?

00:18:48.540 General Milley, when General Milley said the biggest problem with the military was not

00:18:55.900 recruiting, was not training, was not getting the mentality and physical fitness of warfighters, 0.57

00:19:01.440 It was white nationalism and white extremism. He cited Southern Poverty Law Center, sir.

00:19:09.160 Exactly, Steve. So they're deeply embedded within the infrastructure of the regime.

00:19:14.720 And by the way, I'll do another one. When the United States Senate moves to block Trump appointees like the great Jeremy Carl,

00:19:24.840 who Charlie Kirk had endorsed and he was blocked from the Department of State and he was bounced out by this dude.

00:19:31.040 It was John Curtis in Utah and others, but Curtis is the one who ran the charge there.

00:19:35.340 Who did he cite?

00:19:36.460 It was the SPLC.

00:19:38.460 So you see this again and again and again.

00:19:40.780 Crazy Maisie Hirono, right?

00:19:42.380 She is always citing them.

00:19:44.840 This is what they do, right?

00:19:47.580 They smear who they fear.

00:19:49.000 They go after those individuals and they use this organization as laundering, number one,

00:19:55.060 from blocking you from professional life, from blocking you from access to government,

00:19:58.680 from blocking you from sometimes access to banking or access to social media.

00:20:04.180 And then eventually, eventually, and they've and look, I'm not going to take this personally,

00:20:09.400 but I've had people from this organization dox me.

00:20:12.120 They've gone after my wife.

00:20:13.660 They've gone after our home.

00:20:15.800 They've gone after my family personally.

00:20:17.880 So they have followed us while we're traveling to events and taken pictures of how we're

00:20:24.220 traveling and where we are in real time.

00:20:26.080 and and ultimately steve they got what they wanted with charlie kirk they got exactly what

00:20:33.180 they wanted because someone put a bullet in charlie kirk's neck and that's exactly what

00:20:38.080 the spLC wanted when they put a target on his face i want you to repeat that because absolutely

00:20:44.220 when they put him on the hate map they put a bullseye on him they wanted charlie kirk taken

00:20:51.100 out. This is why they did it. Charlie Kirk, who's the most lived Christian I've ever seen in the

00:20:58.880 public square, telling young people, you have to live your faith as a Christian. You can't get, 0.78

00:21:08.240 I think, a holier guy than Charlie Kirk and a guy that actually tried to bring people together.

00:21:14.400 They put him on the hate map to target him because they understand when they do it.

00:21:18.020 I think it was in the spring and summer of 2025, correct?

00:21:22.360 It was just a couple of months before he was assassinated because they understood the message of Charlie Kirk was resonating.

00:21:27.900 Go ahead, sir.

00:21:28.440 And by Labor Day, Charlie was gone.

00:21:31.340 Think about that.

00:21:32.760 They know exactly what they're doing.

00:21:35.480 By the way, they should be indicted.

00:21:37.200 I hopefully get indicted as a co-conspirator in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 0.54

00:21:42.620 this whole color revolution, the railhead of the phony charge of MAGA and Trump racism

00:21:49.700 and white nationalism, which is a completely false charge, the Southern Poverty Law Center.

00:21:55.440 All the board of directors, every senior executive, every grunde over there that touch it,

00:22:02.640 all of them indicted. They sent these holy, I call them the saints that were at Danbury with me

00:22:09.760 for multiple years from praying the rosary in front of abortion mills the southern poverty

00:22:16.520 law center and it's been used as a weapon it's been used to weaponize weaponize lies for decades

00:22:23.420 and decades and finally the justice department had the stones to go after it sir and and as

00:22:30.360 incredible as what what acting ag tub we need to drop that acting by the way just make him full ag

00:22:36.060 at this point and he's already doing the job yeah and you got cash there but steve we need to go a

00:22:40.780 step further yeah we need to go a step further because with the doxing we know that they've

00:22:45.020 done doxing we know they've doxed anons they've doxed some raw nationalists and other people

00:22:49.140 they've been involved in and and some of their entities that they have in the uk and canada

00:22:53.200 friends they have i want to ask what other violent events have they been involved with

00:23:00.240 and what has been the SPLC's involvement with Antifa, because we know for a fact that they've

00:23:07.740 been in communication. There have been studies on this. You could see the network maps on Twitter.

00:23:12.520 I want to know what involvement do they have in Antifa, because if they have involvement,

00:23:16.800 last I checked, Steve, the president of the United States has designated Antifa as a domestic

00:23:21.700 terrorist organization and an international foreign terrorist organization. So when I was

00:23:28.760 talking about that at the Antifa roundtable last year after Charlie Kirk's murder. This was exactly

00:23:34.240 who I was talking to. Were you providing aid and comfort to domestic terrorists? Were you involved

00:23:39.980 in donations that went to fund intelligence and reports and planning for domestic terrorist

00:23:48.980 operations? We know that there was an anti and I'll give you an example, Steve. Do you remember

00:23:53.560 the, um, the, uh, stop cop city, uh, riot that took place to outside of Atlanta a couple of

00:24:00.160 years back when Antifa were running into the, running into the woods to set fire to this

00:24:06.760 police training facility that the city of Atlanta was building. There were SPLC operatives arrested

00:24:12.300 in that group. There were SPLC operatives. A guy who was like a staff lawyer or something

00:24:17.880 was out there with them and they were setting fires and doing all this to the police. Did they

00:24:22.560 really not know? Did they really not know that was going on? Who provided the information about

00:24:28.280 the police officers? Who provided the planning? Who provided the organization? I'm telling you,

00:24:33.880 Steve, the SPLC is up to their eyeballs in it. And when I talked about when we wrote on humans

00:24:39.980 and we talked about the iron law of reciprocity, this is what I'm talking about. It's not

00:24:45.480 retribution it's not retribution it's reciprocity it's direct reciprocity that which was done to us

00:24:53.160 will be done to you it may be reciprocity plus uh jack while i got you by the way human events

00:25:00.820 daily been on fire uh and you are the associated press you're the wire service in your twitter feed

00:25:06.180 uh for the mega movement uh just president trump's been putting out things overnight and uh finally

00:25:12.040 came and said hey look we've destroyed their infrastructure but more importantly we destroyed

00:25:16.680 the command and control and who their leaders are they got hardcores you got moderates though i don't

00:25:21.640 know if i would define any of these guys as moderates he's now taking a much more aggressive

00:25:26.280 stance even than before in the straits of where it moves it's like guns free uh your assessment

00:25:32.680 as a naval intelligence officer before i let you bounce well steve look as as um as strong as the

00:25:39.880 The president's lines have been there. It's still dicey, right? You still got this this picket fleet.

00:25:45.020 I think they called it the mosquito fleet there in the Strait of Hormuz, where ultimately what it comes down to is if you've got one of these carriers,

00:25:54.560 if you've got one of these super carriers, the VLCCs, talking about a billion dollars floating on the water,

00:26:01.260 especially with the price of where it is right now, about to come through and make its way through the strait.

00:26:06.500 Are you really willing to do that if you know that Iran can take out your ship with one drone or one guy on a boat with a bomb or one of these waterborne IEDs or anything like that?

00:26:17.780 So as great as the United States Navy has been, as incredible as the United States Navy has been, that is why they are still not sure of what they're going to be able to do. 0.80

00:26:27.300 That's why the blockade has always been the best move, because President Trump understands that with the blockade, which, by the way, it's not the 18th century.

00:26:34.640 OK, this doesn't actually mean a physical line of ships anymore. It's not the Civil War. 0.76

00:26:39.460 That means we can chase you down anywhere on the high seas to conduct a maritime interdiction operation with the Navy SEALs, with Marines, if they have to, whatever it needs to be out of those out of those helicopters that fly over and they fast rope down, get the crew.

00:26:54.440 So what we're able to do then is say, all right, let's play chicken. Who's going to blink first?

00:27:00.640 And what did the Iranians say? They said they're down two million people out of work because they're not receiving any revenue.

00:27:07.680 So they can they can talk big all they want, Steve. But if we deprive them of the revenue, we use economic warfare.

00:27:14.160 If we use maximum pressure of those economic market forces, guess what?

00:27:18.780 No money coming in means no money that's going to be paid to the IRGC, to the Navy, to these pickets, et cetera.

00:27:25.700 Two can play at that game. And I think President Trump is very smart for enacting.

00:27:29.660 I would just warrant, maybe I'll get you on this afternoon tomorrow morning, but guys

00:27:35.940 like Mark Thiessen and Victor Davis Hanson, these, because Victor Davis Hanson now is

00:27:40.280 talking about unconditional surrender and some weird. 1.00

00:27:43.120 You need to deal with the Chinese. 1.00

00:27:46.220 Yeah, you've got to deal principle to principle, but these guys are, the people that got Iraq 1.00

00:27:51.100 wrong should not be listened to at all in this situation around.

00:27:55.340 jack real quickly uh social media the show and your social media where folks go sure it's a human

00:28:02.140 events daily thank you again steve and god bless to the posse for getting us to this point uh human

00:28:06.940 events daily apple spotify wherever you can and just another shout out we would not be here today

00:28:12.220 seeing the beginning of the end of the splc if not for the immense herculean efforts of one charles

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00:29:39.080 Tonight, Democrats in Virginia are vowing to fight a court ruling blocking the certification

00:29:44.760 of last night's redistricting referendum.

00:29:47.800 Just a short time ago, a Virginia judge temporarily halted the implementation of the state's new

00:29:53.660 voter-approved congressional map.

00:29:56.200 The move prevents election officials from carrying out the new redistricting referendum

00:30:00.300 unless the ruling is overturned by a higher court.

00:30:04.500 Virginia's attorney general says his office will immediately file an appeal.

00:30:08.840 We're going to follow the story as it unfolds.

00:30:11.500 This all comes after Donald Trump spent the afternoon trying to undermine last night's election,

00:30:16.680 posting baseless lies about the vote, slamming the will of the people as, quote, rigged, and attacking mail-in voting.

00:30:23.820 But Donald Trump started this off-cycle redistricting fight, a fight House Democrats now say they're going to finish.

00:30:30.400 we are in an era of maximum warfare and we're going to keep the pressure

00:30:40.100 on republicans in every single state let me

00:30:44.180 that's the voice that's the voice of god uh a team when i say have it i got it i can't listen

00:30:51.360 to hakeem jeffries uh we're going to finish we started we're going to finish it if feckless

00:30:56.800 Republicans would step up to the plate. You're not in a time of kind of, oh, let's reach across

00:31:01.700 the aisle and hug each other. Did you see the report on the Southern Poverty Law Center?

00:31:06.600 All this. And how many appointees in Trump's first term were turfed out or never brought

00:31:15.320 for confirmation or turfed out about jobs you didn't need confirmation because of bogus reports

00:31:19.220 from Southern Poverty Law Center? And you see these hapless Republicans use it sometimes.

00:31:24.880 This is a color revolution.

00:31:26.260 They're playing smash mouth. 1.00

00:31:28.120 They've destroyed this country two-thirds.

00:31:32.880 One-third they have not, and we're fighting back.

00:31:35.880 This is the whole thing about Trump coming in the first place.

00:31:39.320 What do you think?

00:31:41.360 Crossfire hurricane and the whole situation with Russia collusion, all those lies.

00:31:46.680 This is big league baseball, folks. 0.98

00:31:48.940 these people play for keeps and they're animals and they're dangerous and they're demonic

00:31:55.300 and they got to be stopped so hat tip to florida i don't know why this wasn't done years ago in

00:32:03.180 florida in texas we should have taken eight because that's fair look at the maps

00:32:07.400 what's not fair is what's happening in new england there's not one congress they never

00:32:13.540 talking not one congressman in all of new england not one republican congressman 24 democrats for

00:32:20.220 all in new england which i think i think his votes 43 or 44 percent not one same in virginia

00:32:28.120 10 to 1 virginia is a 48 52 state 49 51 or what this or what the referendum was roughly 59 49

00:32:37.220 you got one you got none in new england you got four in the state of california

00:32:43.680 they started the jury they started this because the degrass came with the idea with because what

00:32:50.460 they did in new york look at illinois look at new york come on you got to get to the barricade

00:32:56.660 you got to fight that's what the grassroots were doing on this 45 days of early voting

00:33:01.420 Patty Lyman, where do we stand here?

00:33:05.740 Is this judge going to get overruled by an appellate court?

00:33:09.060 We've got to fight this through a rigged Commonwealth of Virginia Supreme Court, 0.86

00:33:15.080 which has got nothing but hacked Democrats in it that have to be, I guess,

00:33:19.860 reconfirmed by the Democrat state Senate, ma'am?

00:33:26.100 Steve, thank you so much for having me.

00:33:28.380 I was happy to see this decision yesterday from this brilliant judge in Towsville, Virginia.

00:33:35.320 That is God's country, Virginia.

00:33:37.620 I was happy to see that.

00:33:39.580 I think it essentially reaffirms what he issued in his prior decisions at the beginning, laying out the four clear constitutional and statutory violations that the Democrats have committed with this referendum.

00:33:57.820 The Virginia Supreme Court takes the position essentially that this issue was not right for them to adjudicate until after the election took place.

00:34:08.680 That's what they decided two months ago when they wouldn't take the case then.

00:34:12.620 And they said they had to let the referendum go forward.

00:34:15.040 So I think that the judge may have put this out just to renew and put out a fresh permanent injunction after the election took place, reaffirming his legal findings before.

00:34:28.580 People have been saying things like, well, you know, the judge, the Supreme Court can't undo it because, oh, it's the will of the people.

00:34:36.420 Well, the will of the people can only be legally expressed in a certain way in Virginia if they follow all the requirements of the referendum.

00:34:48.660 That's the only way it can be expressed.

00:34:50.860 The judge laid out that they could not, they could not, they had not done that.

00:34:55.220 And so I'm optimistic from a political standpoint, the closeness of this election, I think, makes it makes a decision by the Virginia Supreme Court to overturn this referendum.

00:35:11.840 I think it makes it pretty unassailable.

00:35:14.000 Even though it's a bunch of hacked Democrats and they basically have to be reconfirmed by what is now a Democrat-controlled Senate?

00:35:28.460 Well, yes, they do have to be reconfirmed.

00:35:31.580 They understand the political ramifications.

00:35:34.500 So what would be important would be for them to do a decision that is the right decision legally, or they prove themselves to be complete hacks.

00:35:43.360 and a decision that's unassailable. I believe that if they strike this referendum down

00:35:51.520 based solely on the procedural issues, the fact that they didn't give the 90 days notice,

00:35:57.380 the fact that there wasn't an intervening election, if they strike this down in such a

00:36:01.960 way that they say, hey, you want to do the referendum fine, but you just can't do it this

00:36:07.180 year. You can do it next year. I think that would be a very safe position for most of these

00:36:14.500 justices. They have 12-year terms. I don't know who's up and who's not up, but they can work that

00:36:20.120 out. And you know what? Maybe if one person's going to have to sacrifice themselves, I don't

00:36:25.000 know. But the fact is, whoever they take out, they're going to replace them with another Democrat

00:36:29.500 judge. I'm not at the point yet, Steve. I started practicing constitutional law in 1997. I'm not

00:36:35.700 yet ready to curse God and die and say, just because the judge is a Democrat, they're going

00:36:41.940 to do the wrong thing. Now, if they do say to the Democrats, we're striking this, but you can go

00:36:47.860 ahead next year, the Democrats can do that. But Steve, I have serious doubts about whether they

00:36:53.480 would do it. Number one, they spent a boatload of money to barely win, and this has gotten a lot

00:36:58.300 of attention. But number two, next year, they no longer have to dangle in front of their people

00:37:05.140 this is how you impeach Trump. We've got to do this to get Trump. We have to get rid of Trump.

00:37:10.760 This year is their last chance to use something like this to get rid of Trump. And so I am

00:37:17.220 optimistic. Today is the day that the briefs are due in the Chaswell cases that were already filed,

00:37:23.620 and they're very strong cases. I believe the arguments are Monday. And because of the

00:37:29.620 certification due on May 1st, that I think the Virginia Supreme Court is going to have to act

00:37:36.620 quickly. But they've known the arguments for a long time. Jay Jones has already appealed this.

00:37:41.860 And so I'm optimistic. I'm not giving out copium. I'm saying as an attorney who's looked at the

00:37:48.780 strength of the cases, the safe thing for the Virginia Supreme Court to do is to say,

00:37:54.200 okay wait for another year follow the rules one of the reasons they had this in april was

00:38:00.580 obviously to gun deck it because virginia's never really voted in april but the other reason they

00:38:06.880 couldn't wait for the traditional june never the june was the timing of this if this gets caught up

00:38:13.480 and we don't certify on may 1st and gets caught up in a in a intense legal argument uh in the

00:38:20.460 Commonwealth at the Supreme Court? Is there a timeframe? Is there a trigger where this is too

00:38:26.580 late to implement for this November? I think those things would have to be adjusted. We'd

00:38:34.720 have to put through special rules, certainly in our party, to be able to do that. The primary is

00:38:42.480 now set for August. It was going to be in June. It's now set for August. If, God forbid, the

00:38:48.340 districts did change, then the districts have to completely reorient. We have to put all new

00:38:54.000 leadership in our party in those districts. And it's going to change who can even run,

00:38:59.800 who can run for Congress. You know, it's all of that is going to change. So I imagine we can

00:39:05.660 change deadlines if we have to. With it being moved from June to August, is there some time

00:39:10.700 in late May, early June, or is there some time it just gets too late to redo these districts for the

00:39:17.860 for the august primary and you just have to go with what you've got said is do you see any uh

00:39:23.600 any uh trigger that the court could just say hey look even if you could do it it's got to be for

00:39:28.660 uh it's got to be for the next cycle um yes i can't cite the statutory authority for

00:39:36.320 what the deadline the deadline for filing for office how far in advance of the primary that

00:39:41.520 has to be i wish i could cite that but i'm going to find out but yeah i do think that there comes

00:39:46.940 a drop dead time on this. But I don't believe the Virginia Supreme Court is going to play

00:39:53.640 that kind of a delay game like they're apparently playing now at the U.S. Supreme Court on the

00:40:00.260 Voting Rights Act, which is a travesty in and of itself. But I think we can fight this. And the

00:40:07.280 message I want to give out to the posse, and I've got to say it again, we would never have gotten

00:40:12.380 as far as we did, Steve, without the posse and without your support. And I consider you our

00:40:18.120 brother in arms. People have to understand, if they can do this to Virginia, in any state in

00:40:25.480 this country, the minute the Democrats get control of the General Assembly, they can do the same

00:40:30.920 thing, they can violate all the rules, and they can do what the Democrats just did in Virginia,

00:40:37.200 They just aborted all of rural Virginia. It's gone. It's dead. And they can do that in every

00:40:46.240 state in the country. And so we need this full court press. I'm also very hopeful, Steve,

00:40:52.500 because our party in the last 10 weeks, our state party has been absolutely revolutionized

00:40:59.260 and transformed by the empowerment of the grassroots. They were ignored for five years

00:41:05.400 straight. The grassroots were minimized, marginalized, not supported, ignored. And 10

00:41:11.840 weeks ago, we went to them and said, I mean, I'm a grassroots person. We need you. You're the muscle

00:41:19.120 of the party. And we can rebrand our state party as the party of the people led only by people who 0.98

00:41:26.760 represent the grassroots base of our party. Now, this is the thing I tell people is that don't

00:41:32.880 listen to all the chat in the podcast focus on the muscle in texas since january the two the

00:41:40.600 lesson you should take is it from texas to the commonwealth of virginia the maga movement and

00:41:46.460 people that really use their agencies and make things matter it's strong it's vibrant it's

00:41:51.620 robust very and it wants to win it wants it needs resources it needs resources a little more

00:41:58.040 leadership but resources uh to basically give it air cover uh and uh and support on the ground and

00:42:05.320 and we're going to be victorious so you can tell it but people have got to be reinforced they can't

00:42:11.300 just be left out they have to be and we have like the consultant class needs to move aside we did

00:42:17.780 not need the consultant class in this endeavor and in fact i think in many ways they um they

00:42:24.120 hindered some things that we could have done because money got put into things that made

00:42:29.440 money for consultants instead of, um, ballot chasing, for instance. And so the consultant

00:42:35.780 class, thank you. Y'all please go do it somewhere else. No, no, no. We're, we're, we're behind the

00:42:41.620 scenes working on gutting the consulting class and quite frankly, going in, uh, illegally and

00:42:47.960 getting money back. They're stealing money. They're thieves. They're stealing money. Uh, Patty,

00:42:53.320 where do people go to get you? You're one of our great grassroots leaders, one of the few people on

00:42:57.020 the RNC to speak for the grassroots. Where do people go? They can go to my Facebook page,

00:43:03.140 which is Patty with an I, Lyman, RNC National Committee woman. And I'm also, I'm Patty Lyman,

00:43:10.080 P-A-T-T-I-L-Y-M-A-N, Patty Lyman 2 on X. And everybody knows how to find me.

00:43:17.000 patty thank you so much a true warrior

00:43:21.920 commonwealth are just things a long way from over but we have to have a reorientation in the

00:43:29.860 incentive structure has to be aligned with the grassroots in this nation from texas to the

00:43:35.920 commonwealth of virginia and everywhere in between this year marks a critical moment for our country

00:43:40.960 as the opposition grows more aggressive and more unapologetic the fight now reaches into the

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00:45:13.900 Neither side really wants to negotiate.

00:45:16.500 I mean, it seems clear to me.

00:45:17.700 It's the same feeling I got the first three years of JCPOA negotiations where it was perfunctory, performative.

00:45:25.240 Each side was negotiating more about where to meet for negotiations.

00:45:29.100 And then when you did show up for negotiations, everyone read their little kabuki speeches and nothing really happened.

00:45:35.280 So I think the biggest obstacle is that neither side, you know, it's like a slot machine.

00:45:39.640 Everything has to be lined up for the payout.

00:45:42.600 Things aren't lined up in either country.

00:45:45.020 neither side is really ready to engage in serious and sustained negotiations.

00:45:50.300 So even if they get in the same country, get in the same room,

00:45:54.160 my concern is that nothing will come of it.

00:45:56.320 20% of the world's oil supply flowed through the strait before this war began.

00:46:01.620 The impact has compounded the longer the strait is shut, obviously.

00:46:04.480 At some point, will the economics of the situation force the hand of one side or the other?

00:46:08.940 I think President Trump is counting on the fact that the regime in Iran is going to desperately need sanctions relief and a cash injection.

00:46:20.660 That was the observation of some of our negotiators in Islamabad.

00:46:25.460 In particular, the longer this blockade persists, there's a question of whether Iran would have to shut down some of its oil production,

00:46:33.360 which could do potentially permanent damage to its oil production. 0.80

00:46:36.740 And so I think that is the hope that the Trump administration is is banking on.

00:46:43.160 The one thing here, though, is that, Anderson, this is a political culture in the last 47 years that lionizes resistance.

00:46:50.680 It lionizes sacrifice. And the word for compromiser in Persian, Sazeshkot, is literally a slur.

00:46:57.680 So as Alan alluded to, it's not a regime which compromises very easily, even when it appears to us that their existence is at stake.

00:47:06.740 so sam faddish you dealt with these guys in country um you know the president put out a

00:47:13.000 tweet if we can put it up our true social saying that the the command structure which you and i

00:47:17.380 talked about for weeks now was shattered uh the military part was decentralized they had a plan

00:47:23.140 to do that um i keep saying the guys down in her moves who are part bedouin these pirates they

00:47:30.960 don't report to anybody i don't believe um and the president uses term hardliners versus moderates

00:47:38.640 i mean this is one of the mistakes i think we made as an observation during the during the

00:47:45.440 soviet union during when we were you know eyeball to eyeball on the nuclear threat there and you

00:47:51.100 were at the cia you'd have the mayday you know you'd have the mayday march with all the the parade

00:47:57.360 with all the missiles and tanks and the criminologists would be here in the United States.

00:48:02.380 You get them on the TV back then or, you know, as a kid reading in the Washington Post

00:48:08.540 or the New York Times or the local paper AP, they'd all be saying, oh, this guy's a moderate.

00:48:12.780 There were no moderates. They're not moderates as we they're all hardliners.

00:48:18.160 They're all dead enders. Some are more dead enders than others.

00:48:21.760 Is that observation too far off that you're not?

00:48:24.480 there's no jeffersonian democrats that we can reach across the table and try to make a deal

00:48:30.180 i think we can safely say there are no jeffersonian democrats yeah look steve i mean

00:48:37.300 you know this is this is not an argument for we can't win this is an argument for you don't win

00:48:44.100 by continuing to underestimate and misunderstand your enemy we keep waiting for the part where

00:48:50.660 These guys are going to behave like we would behave in similar circumstances, but you're not talking to people really from the same planet in terms of the worldview.

00:49:00.480 I mean, the buzz now or the assessment now is that this guy, Vahidi, Ahmad Vahidi, is now effectively in charge or he's the leading guy. 0.82

00:49:11.960 Okay, he's the commander of the Iranians.

00:49:13.880 Tell us about that guy because he's the man of the moment in the New York Post and all the papers.

00:49:20.380 Who is he?

00:49:21.380 And why is he important?

00:49:22.380 Yeah.

00:49:23.380 So this is the guy that is now calling the shots as best we can tell.

00:49:26.380 I mean, so he's the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps.

00:49:30.620 These are the most hardcore guys and the guys that defend the regime.

00:49:35.420 Before he ascended to that position, he was the commander of their Quds Force.

00:49:39.480 That's the portion of the IRGC that works with Hezbollah and terrorist groups around 0.64

00:49:43.260 the world to hunt down dissidents, blow things up. 0.56

00:49:47.160 A guy has an outstanding arrest warrant for him because back in, I think it's 1994 in Argentina, the Iranians went in and blew up a Jewish community center, killed a whole bunch of people. 1.00

00:50:00.820 So he's the guy that put that together. 0.99

00:50:05.480 This whole guy's whole life is terrorism and the revolution.

00:50:11.200 That's who's now in charge.

00:50:12.220 it where they write on that assessment last night the reason we pulled it that uh if you're known as

00:50:19.060 a compromiser somebody can make deals in the uh you're referred to that's basically a slur

00:50:25.520 that you're that they consider that being a traitor in fact the only way that you get up

00:50:32.300 in those organizations is be non-stop resistance and you're never going to bow to the great satan

00:50:37.920 yeah i mean as you have touched on many times before we've been talking look these guys are

00:50:44.160 not arabs they regard arabs by the way they talk about arabs in the most disparaging terms arabs 0.99

00:50:50.620 are garbage think of the way the kkk talks about black people that's the way they talk about 0.99

00:50:55.060 arabs they are absolutely in addition to being radical shia 12ers they are 100 percent totally 0.99

00:51:03.340 about the fact that we are persians and we are a great civilization and we've been here for 0.82

00:51:08.620 thousands of years and the world trembled before us and you're going to tremble again this is may

00:51:14.940 sound silly to the average american it is absolutely real again i'm not never saying we

00:51:21.340 we can't beat them i'm just saying it might be a good time to stop underestimating them and start

00:51:27.340 and and expecting them to behave like we would under the same pressure they may go in a totally

00:51:33.180 different direction you may find not only are they not coming to the negotiating table but they start

00:51:39.260 doing some of the things they've threatened to do like take out the saudi pipeline across

00:51:44.380 uh you know the the lifeline for the gulf at this point to yanbu

00:51:51.180 sam can you hang on i want to hold you into the next break also david malpass former head of the

00:51:55.180 the World Bank's going to join us. We're going to talk about the financial, how do I say this,

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2026

Episode 5321： Were There SPLC Informants At J6; Fighting The Redistricting In Virginia

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