Bannon's War Room - Episode 5323： Stopping The Unconstitutional Gerrymandering Of Virginia

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00:00:29.560 Just one day after Virginia became the latest state to redraw its congressional map for

00:00:33.620 partisan benefit, a court there has now blocked the results from being certified.

00:00:37.900 The judge in rural Tazewell County says the language on the ballot was, quote,

00:00:41.920 flagrantly misleading and accused state lawmakers of not following their own rules.

00:00:46.240 Democrats could potentially gain up to four seats in the House with this new configuration.

00:00:50.380 Virginia Attorney General Jay Jones says he intends to immediately appeal the ruling.

00:00:54.680 Meantime, senior Republicans in Washington are pressuring Florida Governor Ron DeSantis

00:00:58.380 to redraw his state's congressional districts.

00:01:02.260 CNN senior legal analyst Ellie Honig is with us now.

00:01:04.860 He's a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York,

00:01:08.060 also a former state and federal prosecutor.

00:01:10.080 Ellie, great to see you as always.

00:01:11.320 Do you think this challenge in Virginia has a chance of succeeding?

00:01:14.560 I do think it has a chance of success.

00:01:16.080 This battle is not over.

00:01:17.640 So if you look at their various challenges here brought by the RNC and other Republican entities,

00:01:22.500 they're basically making two types of challenges here.

00:01:25.800 One is substantive.

00:01:26.900 So they're arguing that the way the question was phrased on the ballot was unfair, was misleading.

00:01:33.060 And there is some legitimacy to that.

00:01:35.120 I mean, the question asks, do you want to, quote, restore fairness to the process?

00:01:39.140 Who's going to realistically vote no on that?

00:01:41.000 I mean, a lot of people did, but it's slanted.

00:01:43.220 I don't know if it's slanted enough to win the legal challenge.

00:01:46.660 But the second category is the procedural challenges.

00:01:49.380 And that's where I think the challengers have some real heft behind their arguments.

00:01:53.700 For example, one of the laws says if you're going to do this, the Virginia General Assembly has to pass a law, and then voting, the referendum, can't start for 90 days after the law is passed.

00:02:04.240 Here, we're not even 90 days out now, and the voting's done.

00:02:07.800 So I don't know how Virginia's going to defend that.

00:02:10.600 There's another procedural quirk, I guess, that says the way you have to do this is the Virginia General Assembly has to pass a law, then you need to have an intervening election, then a second General Assembly needs to pass the law again.

00:02:22.860 And the argument here that you're hearing from the defenders is, well, the 2025 governor election, that's the intervening election.

00:02:29.760 The problem is that overlapped with the first vote.

00:02:32.560 So there's some procedural nuance here that I think is going to be a real problem for people defending this outcome.

00:02:39.080 And I think it's going to give the Republicans a chance to actually get it knocked down on the legal challenges.

00:02:44.080 This isn't the only legal challenge, right?

00:02:45.960 I mean, this, this referendum, this is a constitutional amendment, uh, and this effort

00:02:50.920 has already come through the Virginia court system. It's well acquainted with this judge,

00:02:55.320 as it were. Talk to us about that. So this judge, the same judge in Tazewell County

00:02:59.000 has tried to block the referendum, even from happening twice. It went up to the Virginia

00:03:04.320 Supreme Court, which essentially said, we're not going to block it. We're going to let it happen.

00:03:09.260 However, they did not bless it. What the Virginia Supreme Court said is we're going to let the

00:03:13.340 referendum happen. If it's a no vote, it's moot. We don't have to get involved. Now it's a yes

00:03:18.700 vote, though. And so I believe it's clearly headed back to the Virginia Supreme Court. But important

00:03:23.620 to know, you'll read some of the coverage, which will say, oh, the Virginia Supreme Court has

00:03:26.860 already rejected this twice. That's not quite right. What the Virginia Supreme Court has said

00:03:30.680 is, if it's a yes, come back to us then. And we're not giving you any opinions yet. There's still a

00:03:36.440 step or two before it gets there, right? So what happens now? So the Virginia Attorney General

00:03:41.060 has said he will appeal. It'll go to the mid-level

00:03:43.140 Court of Appeals. Then the Virginia

00:03:44.920 Supreme Court. This has to move quickly. I mean,

00:03:47.000 the primaries in Virginia are scheduled

00:03:49.020 for August. People have to know who's going to be on the ballot.

00:03:51.320 Who are the candidates going to be? Where can people vote?

00:03:53.560 And then, of course, there's a looming question

00:03:55.020 after the Virginia Supreme Court. Will the

00:03:57.160 U.S. Supreme Court take it, right? The U.S.

00:03:59.040 Supreme Court can take cases from

00:04:01.080 the state Supreme Courts. I think

00:04:03.100 the Virginia Supreme Court's going to be the last word here.

00:04:05.240 I don't think the U.S. Supreme Court is going to

00:04:06.980 touch this. It's a uniquely

00:04:08.840 state issue. You're deep in the weeds.

00:04:11.060 as we discussed, of state law and procedure, and the Supreme Court was asked to get involved in

00:04:16.780 both the California and Texas redistricting, and both times said, no, not for us, hands off,

00:04:22.120 we're letting it be. And just to be clear, there's something about Virginia that kind of makes it

00:04:25.900 unique when it comes to their efforts to redistrict, right? I mean, it's just their state

00:04:30.260 law, their constitution, they've sort of run into some issues that maybe make it trickier for

00:04:35.680 Democrats in this case than someone else in another state. Well, there's a couple things.

00:04:39.480 First of all, each of these is very intensely state-focused, right?

00:04:43.640 You're getting into things that were passed as part of the original constitutional conventions in the 1700s and 1800s.

00:04:48.620 I also think the extremity of this redistricting, the fact that you have a state that's roughly 50-50,

00:04:53.620 a little bit Democratic-leaning, ends up with a 10-to-1 congressional split,

00:04:58.160 I don't know how that's going to sit when it gets up the line in the courts.

00:05:01.720 It's not technically legally relevant, but I think the extremity of this is going to be something that judges do take notice of.

00:05:09.480 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because

00:05:17.480 we're going medieval on this people here's not got a free shot all these

00:05:21.900 networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it I

00:05:26.280 know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything the world to

00:05:29.360 stop that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:05:32.580 like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that

00:05:39.400 any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose

00:05:45.880 if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k

00:05:55.000 We'll be back.

00:06:04.640 Very packed this afternoon.

00:06:07.300 Caroline Wren's going to join us.

00:06:08.460 You just heard Ellie Honig.

00:06:10.660 We may play that again to let that sink into folks about what the challenges are here 0.57

00:06:15.000 and what happened in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:06:18.000 Rob Lockwood's got a great piece in the Washington Post.

00:06:21.200 We're going to bring him in. 0.70

00:06:22.220 And, of course, I want to go back through that H-1B to make sure everybody understands what the great Eli Crane has done.

00:06:29.020 And so then we can get from Bill Blaster and Article 3 and, man, the Rampart's here for support to get more co-sponsors of this.

00:06:38.960 I want to start in the Buckeye State, the great state of Ohio, kind of the railhead of the MAGA movement,

00:06:45.620 a state that President Trump came in and kind of took off the playing field as far as being competitive.

00:06:51.460 It used to be the battleground state.

00:06:53.780 It hasn't been under President Trump because the spreads there have been very big,

00:06:57.360 although coming up this fall, it's going to be much, much tighter.

00:07:02.160 Secretary of State, running for Secretary of State, Marcel Sturbridge, joins us by phone.

00:07:07.280 Sir, thank you very much.

00:07:08.520 I have heard your name.

00:07:10.480 They just finished the Tom Fitton down in Doral, the Judicial Watch seminar,

00:07:17.080 I think for the last three or four days.

00:07:18.680 and people are talking about you as the next rock star, secretary of state.

00:07:23.840 Why are people so enthusiastic about your campaign and people that matter,

00:07:29.400 like the Tom Fittons of the world, the Cleta Mitchells,

00:07:31.580 the people that have been fighting to get great secretaries of state in to these state offices, sir?

00:07:39.320 Great to be with you in the posse, Steve.

00:07:41.500 What this campaign reflects is an outcome of the constitutional crisis that rocked our country,

00:07:46.460 and I was in the military post 9-11 and I experienced all of it from military service

00:07:51.300 members being purged out to DEI. And I reflected on my 9-11 years of service in Iraq and Afghanistan

00:07:57.920 and I reached a point where I realized I cannot fight this fight from within the military ranks

00:08:03.060 as an Air Force intel officer. So I decided to take that fight back to Ohio, the home state of

00:08:07.840 my wife. And I realized that even in the state of Ohio, we have some serious issues. Our elections

00:08:13.020 are in trouble. And whereas, let's say Secretary of State wasn't as important of a position maybe

00:08:18.540 10 years ago, it is the center point of gravity right now in each and every state, reflective of

00:08:24.980 the fact that they oversee ballot referendums, and you saw what happened in Virginia with the

00:08:28.800 audience. And so I'm taking this on as a cause, post-military, and I've been at this in the

00:08:33.840 trenches for the last three years, pushing legislation hard. And whatever it takes,

00:08:38.460 this is my task and purpose. Marcel, tell me about this, because in Virginia, we've had a lot of the

00:08:45.440 part of our movement that is really on top of these elections. They're saying, hey, once again,

00:08:51.280 you got these mail-in ballot problems up in northern Virginia. Walk me through Ohio. What's

00:08:56.860 your current status? And like mail-in ballots, what are the big issues there that you see you

00:09:01.880 have to wrestle with? Here's the issue. We have an election season, not an election day in Ohio.

00:09:08.240 The Republicans have been accommodating Democrats for the past two decades and making it all about

00:09:12.380 accessibility here. And that means we're not focused on verifiability and eligibility

00:09:16.780 verification on the front end. I discovered that we have 50 to 100,000 voter records that

00:09:21.760 are mismatched or invalid. In fact, there's 35,000 records on Ohio's voter rolls whose

00:09:26.980 social security numbers are mismatched and they have access to a no excuse ballot.

00:09:32.300 On top of that, even though we passed a voter ID bill in Ohio,

00:09:35.760 the Republican legislature did a carve-out, an exemption for photo ID when it came to mail-in

00:09:41.820 ballots. And in 2024, when we had our election and about 20% of Ohioans voted by mail-in ballot,

00:09:48.640 all of them did not require a copy of a photo ID. So in that regard, we are not as fortified

00:09:55.080 as a bellwether state as people say we are, although it's been in the interest of every

00:09:59.740 elected official who's run through this office because they're in pursuit of the U.S. Senate

00:10:03.600 or governor. There are very few who are mission focused and are looking at this and think long

00:10:09.540 term, if we keep the back door open because of an honor system with registration, we'll be right

00:10:15.940 where Virginia, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in a matter of years. Is there an awareness in Ohio

00:10:22.840 about how critical you are to the MAGA movement and particularly how critical you are to national

00:10:28.020 elections, that if we don't have Ohio, it's going to be virtually impossible for us to

00:10:34.280 put victories.

00:10:35.400 And the reason is, is that if we don't keep that spread, if you had to spend a ton of

00:10:39.060 time, if you had to spend a lot of money, I mean, this is what we learned in the 16

00:10:42.360 campaign, the 20, and the 24.

00:10:44.980 Is there a heightened level of awareness among the MAGA movement there of how essential Ohio

00:10:51.620 is and how we have to have ultimate, preeminent voter integrity there?

00:11:00.820 Yes, now there is. But there is still kind of the holdouts of the Republican Party pre-Trump

00:11:05.740 who are holding tight. You see, we had breakthroughs at the federal level with

00:11:08.660 Vice President Vance winning. He had to do it the hard way. So did Senator Bernie Moreno.

00:11:13.500 So the party grandies who've been in Ohio all the way going back to Governor DeWine in the 1970s

00:11:18.540 have created a system where they've revolved doors. And so I'm up against an opponent.

00:11:23.300 I was winning and am winning, but it's tight. And we're going to need all the MAGA in Ohio to come

00:11:28.200 out with President Trump on the bandwagon on this, because they have been revolving amongst

00:11:33.200 each other to avoid term limits. And the track record here, we have one of the most favorable

00:11:37.920 states as far as a supermajority legislature. We've had executive level office for the past

00:11:42.840 30 years. This is the state where we should be pushing the agenda for the election integrity

00:11:48.340 and setting the pace for all other states.

00:11:51.260 Instead, we're tiptoeing,

00:11:52.600 and we just passed a bill here recently

00:11:54.640 that disallows ballots after Election Day,

00:11:58.260 but we did so on the basis

00:11:59.680 that we could have faced

00:12:00.600 the Department of Justice lawsuit.

00:12:02.540 So in that regard, we did it

00:12:04.460 because we were being pushed from the White House.

00:12:06.980 I want to see a state where we're leaning forward,

00:12:09.620 we're not being pushed in that regard,

00:12:11.700 and we're just solving these issues piece by piece.

00:12:15.760 Marcel, take a minute.

00:12:16.840 We got a minute or two.

00:12:17.900 I want you to talk about your service to the country prior to this.

00:12:24.540 Absolutely.

00:12:25.380 You know, I got the fortune of this Air Force intel officer being thrown right into Iraq and the operations.

00:12:30.980 I've overseen both surge.

00:12:32.540 I did intelligence collection missions.

00:12:33.940 I did human.

00:12:35.280 I've done tactical, operational, and strategic missions all over the world, eliminating terror targets across four continents.

00:12:41.640 And then I had the fortune of working with emerging and disruptive technology, moving

00:12:45.300 to Ohio at the time with the National Air and Space Intelligence Center.

00:12:48.700 And then eventually I worked for the vice chairman, joint chiefs of staff for five years

00:12:52.380 in the first Trump administration.

00:12:53.680 I was responsible for updating and upgrading information system programs to the tune of

00:12:58.720 about $25 billion.

00:13:00.160 So if there's anybody predisposed and has the ability to update, upgrade the antiquated,

00:13:06.780 outdated voting systems and bring us into the 21st century, which I think it should be pre-printed

00:13:12.420 hand-marked paper ballots, personally, I think the era of electronic vote casting machines is done,

00:13:17.700 and it doesn't coincide well with the cyber threat environment of today. And that would be

00:13:22.140 one of my imperatives. It would be that. It would be requiring only valid excuse mail-in ballots in

00:13:27.900 Ohio. These are scary thoughts to the people who've been doing things the same way 20 years,

00:13:32.840 but where is that getting us? Six out of 10 Americans, as you know, Steve, said that they

00:13:38.800 weren't sure about the honesty and trust and the accuracy of the elections in 24. And so we can't

00:13:43.900 have that. We need to restore trust and confidence in elections, or we're not going to have a country

00:13:49.520 and we certainly almost lost it with the open borders. So I think I've arrived at the right

00:13:55.100 time to lead ohio i think we just lost him marcel stuber no i'm here i'm just saying oh yeah the uh

00:14:06.680 can you give us your website i want i want to know where people can go and find out more about

00:14:10.840 you and getting back in this race i think your primary is on mace it's coming up right it's

00:14:15.180 very close i want people to go see to see who you are today thank you sir yes my our primary

00:14:22.500 election is Cinco de Mayo, May 5th. And I'd like to ask everybody to check out our website at

00:14:28.260 Sturbridge, Ohio. It's spelled S-T-R-B-I-C-H. Four is spelled out F-O-R-Ohio.com. I've listed

00:14:37.680 my platform. I would ask for every patriot out there. We've raised $800,000, no special interest,

00:14:43.340 just small donor money. That's my beautiful family and wife. I'm doing it for them. And I'm asking if

00:14:48.260 everyone can help us this is the only fuel that we have and we we're fighting very hard in ohio

00:14:52.760 against the establishment that is not receptive to the president trump's reform so thank you so

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00:16:25.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:16:30.880 So Marcel Sturbridge is going, he's speaking at a Lincoln Day dinner in Ohio.

00:16:36.240 We're going to try and get him back on tomorrow morning.

00:16:38.260 Very impressive.

00:16:40.060 And from down at the Judicial Watch seminar, which they have every year,

00:16:48.080 and you've got Christine Bob down there.

00:16:51.300 You've got Cleta Mitchell and others, Tom Fenton.

00:16:55.780 This guy is something they're very excited about, about getting ahead of this in Ohio.

00:17:01.160 So try getting back on tomorrow.

00:17:03.340 May 5th is the primary there.

00:17:06.240 Rob Lockwood, amazing piece in the Washington Post to kind of kick off our commemoration of the 250th anniversary of the birth of our country.

00:17:18.400 President, we're going to be rolling out every day.

00:17:21.500 There's going to be other things the administration is doing to get us to July 4th and beyond.

00:17:26.180 You've got a piece in the Washington Post.

00:17:27.900 Now, let me get this right.

00:17:28.780 You're saying not that we make English language the official language of the United States, but we make American the official language.

00:17:38.240 Do I have that right, sir?

00:17:40.720 Yeah, Steve.

00:17:41.320 So the theory is pretty simple.

00:17:43.240 In 1776, we declared our independence from the United Kingdom, Great Britain. 0.90

00:17:47.500 We won.

00:17:48.340 We are the greatest nation that's ever existed in this.

00:17:50.420 We celebrate our 250th birthday.

00:17:52.300 one of the most lasting gifts that we can give this country is actually rebranding our language

00:17:57.920 to what it is. It's no longer American English. We can make it American. And I think that it's

00:18:02.920 something that could be a fantastic addition to all of the festivities that the president and

00:18:07.200 the Congress and the executive branch have planned. So I wrote a piece today in the Washington Post

00:18:11.920 arguing for that. It's something that going back to our founders generation has been debated amongst

00:18:17.000 great thinkers and great minds and 250 years overdue in my mind. So I think this is the time

00:18:21.960 to do it if we ever wanted to and plant our flag and say hey we're speaking american from here on

00:18:27.240 out okay so i know you you're a very serious guy used to be bergam's guy uh you've had some of the

00:18:34.840 biggest media jobs around you're one of the smartest strategists out there is this a goof

00:18:40.440 or is this because you're trolling the english because the king's coming over uh i think the

00:18:46.280 daily mail's bragging they're gonna have the king at one of their receptions or parties is it because

00:18:51.220 King Charles is coming over. Lockwood, are you trolling him? Are you serious about this?

00:18:57.520 Dead serious. And I say this to somebody whose surname is English. I think we won and it's time

00:19:02.600 that we do this. We should dump English as the official language. Like we dumped the T in 17, 1.00

00:19:07.480 I think it was 74 actually, but not 76. But no, dead serious on the timing of this. I wrote this

00:19:12.400 piece months ago and the timing's coincidental with the king coming. But it's also impactful.

00:19:18.160 And it's something when you look at what President Trump did last year with the naming of renaming the Gulf of America.

00:19:24.060 I thought that was tremendously important. It was something that was executed at the Department of the Interior.

00:19:29.000 And when you look at the importance in celebrating American greatness, our language, the tongue we speak, there's nothing greater.

00:19:36.360 Or like I said, it could have a longer lasting impact than rebranding as American.

00:19:40.080 So, yeah, it's a marketing play, but it's one I think is highly appropriate for our country.

00:19:43.780 And on the 250th birthday, it's a great gift that we can give ourselves.

00:19:48.160 Do you, is there, you, you call it American English. A lot of people still just refer to

00:19:52.740 English. Is there enough about the language itself that's actually structurally changed

00:19:57.260 or the words we use, or that maybe the cadence that actually backs up your point that, Hey,

00:20:03.000 this is, we speak American. Uh, we don't really speak English.

00:20:07.480 Yeah. So there's plenty of words that, I mean, the way we spell things are different. They use

00:20:11.620 O-U-R, they use C-E instead of S-E. There's a lot of different structural linguistic things

00:20:17.500 that academics look at. I quote this in the piece I wrote. There's a book written in 1919 by H.L.

00:20:23.980 Mencken, where he talks about how the American tongue has evolved itself where it's truly distinct.

00:20:29.440 And so, yeah, there's plenty of structural stuff. But for me, like I said, this is a branding thing.

00:20:34.540 This is about celebrating American exceptionalism and American greatness. And it's in line with

00:20:39.700 things that the president has done. It's in line with things that a lot of other thinkers have

00:20:43.960 thought over 250 years in america and so now is the time more than ever if we wanted to do it

00:20:48.880 to actually put this plan into action and uh you know so that's why i wrote the piece okay

00:20:53.920 i want everybody to read this i'm gonna have you back on maybe i have you on with rahim

00:20:57.900 um lockwood where do people go to your social media to get all your all your current thinking

00:21:04.380 sir rob lockwood on x or twitter whatever people like to call it yeah i love it as soon as i read

00:21:11.560 this. I got to get Lockwood on for this. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thanks, Steve. Rob Lockwood.

00:21:18.140 Grace and Mo and Elizabeth, we can push this out and have everybody in the posse read it. Okay,

00:21:23.080 Wren's with us. I want to play Honig for maybe not the whole thing. Let me play Honig and then

00:21:28.920 I'm going to get Caroline up. It is not over. So if you look at their various challenges here

00:21:34.100 brought by the RNC and other Republican entities, they're basically making two types of challenges

00:21:39.140 here. One is substantive. So they're arguing that the way the question was phrased on the ballot was

00:21:44.820 unfair, was misleading. And there is some legitimacy to that. I mean, the question asks,

00:21:50.240 do you want to, quote, restore fairness to the process? Who's going to realistically vote no

00:21:54.740 on that? I mean, a lot of people did, but it's slanted. I don't know if it's slanted enough

00:21:58.920 to win the legal challenge. But the second category is the procedural challenges. And

00:22:03.700 that's where I think the challengers have some real heft behind their arguments. For example,

00:22:08.560 One of the laws says if you're going to do this, the Virginia General Assembly has to pass a law, and then voting, the referendum, can't start for 90 days after the law is passed.

00:22:18.300 Here, we're not even 90 days out now, and the voting's done.

00:22:21.860 So I don't know how Virginia's going to defend that.

00:22:24.660 There's another procedural quirk, I guess, that says the way you have to do this is the Virginia General Assembly has to pass a law, then you need to have an intervening election, then a second General Assembly needs to pass the law again.

00:22:36.920 And the argument here that you're hearing from the defenders is, well, the 2025 governor election, that's the intervening election.

00:22:43.820 The problem is that overlapped with the first vote.

00:22:46.620 So there's some procedural nuance here that I think is going to be a real problem for people defending this outcome.

00:22:53.140 And I think it's going to give the Republicans a chance to actually get it knocked down on the legal challenges.

00:22:58.140 This isn't the only legal challenge, right?

00:23:00.020 I mean, this this referendum, this is a constitutional amendment and this effort has already come through the Virginia court system.

00:23:08.000 It's well acquainted with this judge, as it were. Talk to us about that.

00:23:10.960 So this judge, the same judge in Tazewell County, has tried to block the referendum even from happening twice.

00:23:16.840 It went up to the Virginia Supreme Court, which essentially said we're not going to block it.

00:23:22.140 We're going to let it happen. However, they did not bless it.

00:23:25.360 What the Virginia Supreme Court said is we're going to let the referendum happen if it's a no vote.

00:23:30.020 it's moot we don't have to get involved now it's a yes vote though and so i believe it's

00:23:34.900 clearly headed back to the virginia supreme court but important to know you'll read some

00:23:38.740 of the coverage which will say oh the virginia supreme court has already rejected this twice

00:23:42.260 that's not quite right what the virginia supreme court has said is if it's a yes

00:23:46.340 come back to us then and we're not giving you any opinions yet there's still a step or two

00:23:50.980 before it gets there right so what happens now so the virginia attorney general has said he will

00:23:55.620 appeal it'll go to caroline rent i want to do this first and then i'm gonna get to florida

00:24:02.620 so talk to me about what you just heard i am just i'm pretty skeptical about the legal

00:24:09.360 process of virginia that's about to play out i mean as you mentioned virginia the supreme court

00:24:13.700 justices they're not appointed by the governor or elected like in many states in fact there's

00:24:18.480 only two states where the justices are actually elected by the state legislature so these seven

00:24:23.520 justices are elected by the Virginia state legislature. They serve 12-year terms and come

00:24:28.160 up for re-election. But here's the kicker. The Democrats in Virginia have a large majority in

00:24:32.920 both the state house and the state senate. So the same Supreme Court justices that are going to rule

00:24:38.360 on this redistricting effort also have to be re-elected by this hyper-partisan Democrat

00:24:44.340 state legislature in Virginia. So like, forgive me that I am not overly confident in this. And as

00:24:50.480 he did mention, you know, they have already rejected this twice. And even if they let it

00:24:55.480 come through into them, I just don't see them. They'll use the excuse of we're not we're not

00:24:59.240 going to overturn the will of the voters. I can already probably write exactly what they're going

00:25:03.200 to say to have their cop out, even though it was blatantly unconstitutional, blatantly illegal.

00:25:07.220 But they don't care. So, yeah, I mean, you've heard, Ellie, and it's pretty big to get honing

00:25:14.220 to agree with anything that MAGA believes in, even with those legal arguments, the procedural

00:25:20.160 arguments that i think are pretty cut and dry you're saying the politics itself and particularly

00:25:26.340 as is specifically as virginia is becoming more radicalized because this was such a radical

00:25:32.380 process to essentially take fairfax county the home of all these foreign-born globalist deep

00:25:38.540 staters and basically infect uh five congressional districts do the lobster map uh you're saying

00:25:46.260 Anybody that would do that, anybody that would have a Supreme Court that wouldn't shut this thing down immediately, don't look for them to save you even if the law is in your favor?

00:25:57.520 No, I think Virginia Democrats have a super majority in the House.

00:26:01.240 Like they're – I think it's 64 to like 30 Republicans, something absurd.

00:26:04.600 So if you're a Virginia Supreme Court justice, but there are only seven, again, they get reelected or reappointed by the legislature and you get the way you get elected by the legislature is just a simple majority vote.

00:26:16.220 And so by you would be signing your death sentence from if you overturn, you know, this this referendum.

00:26:23.660 And so, well, yes, I agree. It is blatantly illegal, blatantly unconstitutional.

00:26:28.100 But I think that these justices will go with the political wins, unfortunately. 0.99

00:26:33.100 How did, I'm going to hold you through the break, and then Rosemary Jenks is also going to join us on this H-1B visa act from legislation from Eli Crane.

00:26:42.160 How did Virginia get in this situation?

00:26:45.200 How did Youngkin and the establishment completely destroy, literally destroy the MAGA movement and the Republican Party in one of the most important states in the union, ma'am?

00:26:55.660 i know a lot of people didn't even think virginia was going to go through with this but governor

00:27:00.400 spamburger has chosen to or has come in extremely hot very very aggressive since she's come in a

00:27:05.880 very you know partisan left-leaning democrat and they they did i mean it's i'm impressed with what

00:27:12.260 they did i wish republicans fought as hard as the democrats are on this stuff it's like unbelievable

00:27:16.320 to me in states like indiana we can't get this done and they did something like this in virginia

00:27:20.440 which is, you know, a purple left-leaning state, though.

00:27:23.500 And so they shoved it through.

00:27:26.100 They got it done.

00:27:26.760 There was little to no, we were outspent, what, two, three to one

00:27:29.560 by the Democrats on this referendum, and here we are.

00:27:33.660 Caroline, hang on for a second.

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00:29:43.340 Okay, that far-left community, remember her from years ago, Margaret Cho, not actually very funny, but went on a—this is a gateway pundit, one of their lead stories—went on another unhinged tirade on a podcast this week, first accusing President Donald Trump and his administration of having a sexual kink for cruelty to immigrants, trans people, children, and the poor. 0.97

00:30:05.880 And then she wished for a feral, bloodthirsty, violent Democratic Party to rise up and punish members of his cabinet.

00:30:16.380 That's the stakes we have here. 0.95

00:30:17.680 I keep telling people, Caroline Wren, these people are demonic, they're deranged, and they're coming to destroy President Trump, his family, his cabinet, his administration, and the MAGA movement.

00:30:29.120 Now, what we've got to do is start playing hardball again and not softball.

00:30:36.340 That's going to take up down in Florida next week.

00:30:39.280 Ma'am, can you tell us about that?

00:30:42.120 Sure.

00:30:42.680 So the Florida legislature is convening for a special session next week, and it's to address redistricting, among other things.

00:30:49.240 Now, the key here, why this is different from Virginia or these other redistricting fights you've seen,

00:30:54.200 is that the argument that Governor DeSantis is making, which I think is absolutely correct,

00:30:58.820 is that this is not about partisan gerrymandering. This is about population change. I mean,

00:31:03.000 Florida has materially changed since the map was last drawn in 2022, and that was using the 2020

00:31:09.200 census data that no longer matches today's reality. Look, I moved to Florida in 2023,

00:31:15.040 along with millions of others. I mean, the population has massively shifted. They've

00:31:18.880 added at least 2 million new residents since that census, and that is explosive growth.

00:31:23.440 and these congressional maps in our state they are badly outdated and some of the bluest seats

00:31:28.200 in the state they've been bleeding residents as well because during covid and you know as the

00:31:33.280 state has gotten more red the if you were a democrat you left the state of florida and so

00:31:38.500 the the few democrat districts that do exist in this state again those districts have gotten

00:31:43.080 smaller while republican districts have absolutely exploded and so florida has to redistrict this

00:31:48.600 year. I mean, every Floridian does deserve equal representation. And if you wait until the next

00:31:53.620 census in 2030, that means you would lock in unfair maps for the next four election cycles.

00:31:59.220 It is not fair. And that is why I do expect that hopefully this will pass. Now, whether or not it

00:32:04.260 could be, I've heard nobody's seen the maps yet, but it could add somewhere between one and five

00:32:09.980 seats. I think five is pretty unlikely. Certainly hope they go for four because I do think the

00:32:14.460 population growth is that large but all eyes are going to be on florida next week

00:32:18.940 and i take it uh rumor has it you're going to be pretty active in this

00:32:24.500 yeah i'm going to go to tallahassee next week i want to i want to watch this process and see how

00:32:29.460 it um unfolds throughout the week i mean i think it is unbelievably important for uh the the future

00:32:36.440 of our country again i'm a resident of florida so this deeply matters to me i actually live in

00:32:41.560 this weird sliver gerrymandered district myself every single neighbor person in my neighborhood

00:32:46.420 has a Trump or MAGA sign yet we have a Sheila the woman I can't even pronounce her double last name

00:32:52.660 who just had to resign I'm technically in her district and the way it's drawn is is insane I'm

00:32:57.760 like I live in a red district but I have a a congresswoman who's now since resigned that I

00:33:03.880 should not have and this district should not have and so they need to match the population growth

00:33:08.520 in places like palm beach county that have absolutely exploded at caroline for adalusia

00:33:14.300 there's a total mismatch in resources and and you understand this business this part of the

00:33:19.160 business better than anyone you've got a hundred million dollars being spent to destroy the

00:33:23.220 grassroots movement and ken paxton in texas uh and people are furious about this now in virginia

00:33:30.080 not one penny was spent to really support the grassroots which could have won this

00:33:34.620 four or five million bucks i think sean spice could have won this just by getting uh some

00:33:40.200 professional phones door knockers just some support for the grassroots who turned out

00:33:44.940 amazingly with no money and no support at all uh how is that going to be rectified ma'am

00:33:50.700 i don't know if it is going to be rectified i've been yelling about this with the republican

00:33:55.960 party since about 2014 i've been yelling about it on your show for the last i don't know

00:34:00.840 for six years um but it is unbelievably frustrating republican money is spent based off of television

00:34:07.340 buys and it's spent based off of consultants that get a percentage on placing a tv buy which by the

00:34:12.680 way is the easiest thing known to man it doesn't take some like genius to be able to do that but

00:34:16.940 they get these massive percentages and so it forces you whether or not you're running a statewide

00:34:20.940 campaign uh an issue obviously effort they always just want to spend money on cable television or

00:34:28.060 on any type of tv where they get three percent on the buy and you make up so that i mean if you

00:34:32.420 make a million dollar buy you have a consultant who will get like just i don't know they end up

00:34:37.140 making hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars each election cycle on placing these ad

00:34:40.680 buys and it frustrates me to knowing because there is no you don't make money a commission off of

00:34:45.920 spending on the grassroots that's why the grassroots never gets any money like this is how our system

00:34:50.260 has been broken and the democrat party has historically done all their funding as we just

00:34:54.680 saw with the FBI coming out with the SP, Southern Poverty Law Center, the Democrat Party funds

00:35:00.140 their campaigns through nonprofits and C4s. And when you do that, you're actually, you can't

00:35:05.100 spend that money really on television. You have to use it through things like grassroots and voter

00:35:09.340 registration. So we are always, that's why we are always at a disadvantage when things like this

00:35:14.120 come up or just voter turnout problems. And it's because of the broken system our consultant class

00:35:19.360 works in. Caroline, where do people keep up with you, particularly as you head to Tallahassee next

00:35:25.560 week? Because this will be the center of gravity of the political world as everyone focuses on

00:35:32.280 how we right the ship in the run-up to the midterm elections, ma'am.

00:35:37.140 You can follow me at at Caroline Wren on Twitter, Gitter, and Truth Social.

00:35:43.300 Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Thank you.

00:35:47.160 Rosemary Jenks, my phone blew up all last night.

00:35:50.740 People were so just sitting there going, finally this thing has happened.

00:35:54.920 They wanted to thank Eli Crane for the heroism that he's put forward.

00:36:00.000 Subcommittee Chairman McClintock, which is just incredible to support this.

00:36:04.760 And you did so much of the pick-and-shovel work to help Eli's staff and McClintock on the subcommittee.

00:36:14.340 Just walk us through.

00:36:15.080 This is a historic bill, and I want to get people up on this.

00:36:18.780 I want to get people calling.

00:36:20.520 I want every Republican, maybe except the 30 that want open borders and amnesty, but

00:36:29.080 the rest of the Republican Party should be on this.

00:36:31.740 Walk us through this historic bill and what it really means.

00:36:35.000 Well, first of all, Steve, I want to say that this is what IAP does, the Immigration Accountability

00:36:41.040 Project.

00:36:41.380 This is what we are here for, to assist members of Congress in drafting legislation and pushing policies that serve Americans' interests.

00:36:49.900 This bill is absolutely historic.

00:36:52.760 It would pause all H-1B visa issuances for a period of three years.

00:36:58.720 During that three-year period, every H-1B visa holder who is currently in the United States would have to leave.

00:37:06.680 that they would not be able to get an extension of their visas. They would not be able to switch

00:37:13.080 to a different visa status. They would have to leave the United States. So that would open up

00:37:19.040 all of the jobs that are currently being held by H-1B visa holders. After the three-year period,

00:37:27.780 the number of H-1B visas would drop by about three quarters from well over 100,000 to 25,000

00:37:36.080 per year. Every H-1B employer, every employer who wants to bring an H-1B into the United States

00:37:43.360 would have to agree to pay that person a minimum of $200,000 plus pay the $100,000 Trump fee for

00:37:54.000 every single applicant. The employer would have to attest that he has tried to find an American

00:38:02.920 worker to fill that job, which is not a requirement right now. He would also have to

00:38:07.780 show that he has had no layoffs for the previous 12 months and will have no layoffs for the

00:38:13.300 following 12 months. Basically, any new H-1B who comes into the country would be here for 0.91

00:38:22.880 a maximum period of three years. No extensions, no adjustment of status. They come, they fill the 0.96

00:38:30.020 supposedly temporary labor gap, and then they leave. So first of all, it will be more expensive

00:38:38.180 under this bill for an employer to bring in a foreign worker than to hire an American, 0.89

00:38:43.620 and that is the goal. Second, even if an employer really is determined to spend all this money and

00:38:51.400 rely on H-1B workers, that employer is going to have to train a new H-1B worker every three years

00:38:59.120 because none of them are allowed to stay longer than three years. And by the way,

00:39:05.300 the prohibition on adjustment of status, which is how people switch from an H-1B or an L visa to

00:39:14.220 some other kind of visa, it's how foreign students switch to H-1B visas. That is all prohibited under

00:39:21.720 this bill. So foreign students cannot get employment authorization. So the bill ends

00:39:27.460 OPT, optional practical training. It prohibits H visa holders from bringing their families here.

00:39:33.960 So no more H-4 EADs for the spouses of H-1B holders. So, I mean, this is, it is groundbreaking. 0.98

00:39:44.240 It would have a massive impact on A, the number of jobs that open up for Americans and B,

00:39:50.980 The incentives for both employers to hire foreign workers and the incentives for the foreign workers, because if you're in another country and you're determined to come to the United States permanently, the H-1B is no longer going to be the way to do that because you cannot stay under the provisions of this bill. 0.60

00:40:12.580 And you can't bring your family, right? 0.83

00:40:17.880 Correct.

00:40:19.100 You're here for three years as a temporary worker, and you go home.

00:40:23.800 This is bad.

00:40:24.620 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:40:26.500 You, with your experience, work with Eli and the staff and others,

00:40:29.520 you guys went through all the big issues and problems with H-1B visas.

00:40:37.460 And understand you can't go where we want to go today, 0.95

00:40:40.980 which is shut the whole freaking thing down and send them home.

00:40:43.260 You guys took the key things that are the problems and drive this massive assault that these HB1s have led to, and you tried to mitigate the problems in each category, correct? 0.68

00:40:59.400 Absolutely correct.

00:41:00.360 I mean, Congressman Crane came to me and said that he wanted to introduce an H-1B reform bill that would actually make a difference, that would help Americans and put American workers first.

00:41:12.800 And I said, let's do it. And this is what we came up with. His staff has been amazing. He has been amazing. This has been a fantastic process. And I think it is a fantastic bill. It is not the elimination of the H-1B program. But I'll tell you what, I don't see how we could get that through Congress.

00:41:32.860 I think this is a bill that has the possibility of getting enough support to actually start moving.

00:41:41.240 I think that it is possible that we'll have hearings on this, potentially a markup in the Judiciary Committee. 0.74

00:41:47.320 I think this is a realistic solution, and it's a damn good one.

00:41:53.520 By the way, and that's why we need people on this bill.

00:41:56.380 Now, we're going to go to the Oval Office, by the way, on an update on Israel and Hezbollah and Lebanon momentarily.

00:42:07.280 So I need you right now, Rosemary Jenks.

00:42:09.840 Where do people go to see the analysis that your group has done on this bill?

00:42:15.660 IAPaction.com.

00:42:18.120 IAPaction.com.

00:42:19.620 And if you just type in the search bar at the top, Crane, C-R-A-N-E, you will find all the information about this bill and the co-sponsors of it and, you know, who you need to contact to get more co-sponsors.

00:42:32.900 The contact information for all your members of Congress are on this page, IAPaction.com.

00:42:40.080 Okay.

00:42:40.720 We need everybody to go there.

00:42:42.800 You're a congressman and or just congressman, you know, you have to go get the information.

00:42:48.880 Let's make the calls.

00:42:50.420 There shouldn't be any member of the Republican Party that's looking for your support.

00:42:56.160 That should not be as a co-sponsor to this bill. 0.97

00:42:58.440 Rosemary Jenks, heroic work. 0.99

00:43:00.920 We're going to be working this one every day. 0.69

00:43:02.540 We need a hearing.

00:43:03.420 We need a markup.

00:43:04.320 We need to get this to the floor.

00:43:05.520 Do we not, ma'am?

00:43:07.320 Absolutely, we do.

00:43:08.340 This is what is going to open jobs for American workers who have done everything right, and we owe it to them.

00:43:15.640 One more time.

00:43:16.600 Where do they go?

00:43:17.240 Got 20 seconds.

00:43:18.600 IAPAction.com is the website, and you can find us on X at IAProject.

00:43:25.600 Thank you, man. Appreciate you.

00:43:28.100 Coming back, we're going to the Oval Office.

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00:45:25.120 thank you sir the the funding that has all it gets from iran is iran going to have to cut that

00:45:31.900 off to do a deal with you? Yeah, they'll have to cut that. That's a must for you. Yeah, sure.

00:45:35.680 That's a must, yeah. Mr. President, apparently there was a special forces soldier who was involved

00:45:41.640 in the capture of Venezuelan President Maduro, who was arrested by federal authorities today on

00:45:47.120 suspicion of insider trading and betting on the poly market. Are you concerned that federal

00:45:54.380 employees are betting on these prediction markets and potentially getting rich? Well, I don't know

00:45:59.560 about it but uh was he betting that they would get him or they wouldn't get him it sounds like

00:46:04.820 he was betting on his removal from office that maduro would be removed that's like pete rose

00:46:11.600 betting on his own team it's a little like pete rose pete rose he kept him out of the hall of fame

00:46:16.500 because he bet on his own team now if he bet against his team that would be no good but he

00:46:21.100 bet on his own team i'll look into it yeah also that are being placed as well on the iran

00:46:26.240 conflict too and there have been some trappings where people suspect that there's insider trading

00:46:31.500 happening on these prediction markets around the war. Are you concerned? Well, you know, the whole

00:46:37.260 world unfortunately has become somewhat of a casino and you look at what's going on all over

00:46:43.440 the world in Europe and every place they're doing these betting things. I was never much in favor of

00:46:48.280 it. I don't like it conceptually, but it is what it is. No, I think that I'm not happy with any of

00:46:55.000 that stuff. But they have all these different sites. They have predictive markets. It's

00:47:00.660 a crazy world. It's a much different world than it was. Please. We talked about the Fed's

00:47:05.660 renovation. Can someone other than the Justice Department find out the things you said he

00:47:09.940 wanted to learn? Well, could. I mean, look, it's pretty easy. When you look up with Jerome

00:47:16.620 too late, Pell, I have a real problem because he should have been lowering interest rates

00:47:21.320 long time ago and despite that we fought through it and we have the greatest economy we've ever had

00:47:26.760 you take a look i mean we just i don't know what the market is today but we've broken every record

00:47:31.640 over the last few days and this is during a military operation or a war whatever you want

00:47:37.160 to call it it makes no difference as far as i'm concerned but we have this unbelievable economy

00:47:43.320 the s p has a new record the dow is right at a new record we already broke the record

00:47:47.480 with the Dow. People said it wouldn't happen in four years. They said in four years it won't be

00:47:52.620 able to be possible to break 50,000. We broke it with the Dow. And I'm actually a little bit

00:47:57.920 surprised that we're breaking it constantly, even now, during this conflict. Because when we broke

00:48:04.640 it, I called a lot of the people here. I called J.D., I called Marco, I called Howard, I called

00:48:09.640 Scott. I said, I hate to tell you, fellas, but we have to do a little bit of a detour. We have to go

00:48:14.580 Iran and make sure they don't have a nuclear weapon we had just broken every 0.97

00:48:18.000 financial record and the amazing thing is we continue to break them even during 0.79

00:48:23.340 the war now fuel went up but I thought it would have gone up much more and a lot

00:48:28.200 of ships are coming to the United States and they're using the United States

00:48:32.280 instead of the Hormuz Strait amazing things are happening our country is

00:48:38.340 amazing you know we don't have an oil shortage we have with drill baby drill

00:48:41.800 we we are right now producing more oil than saudi arabia and russia combined did you know that more

00:48:50.920 and in about a year from now we'll be doing double the the level and uh venezuela has been fantastic

00:48:57.480 we have a great relationship with that country and with the people that are running the country

00:49:03.080 and we're taking out we're taking in millions of barrels of oil millions and millions from venezuela

00:49:10.200 it's been a great experience to be honest with you and they're doing a very good job and they

00:49:14.200 have our backing okay mr president can you just clarify again what exactly here we go listen to

00:49:21.880 this no no no just just let's just clarify here we go here's his well what happened two sides

00:49:27.320 agreed to here three weeks three weeks yeah three weeks and the leaders will most likely be coming

00:49:32.840 here during that time and i think when they do that's a very historic meeting they have never

00:49:37.320 They haven't met for many, many years, as I understand it.

00:49:41.200 They've never met.

00:49:42.200 Think of that.

00:49:43.200 They're next to each other, they're great people, and they've never met.

00:49:48.000 This should be an easy one.

00:49:49.500 Okay?

00:49:50.500 Good question.

00:49:51.500 Thank you.

00:49:52.500 The Lebanese law, we can't communicate with Israel what we can do about this law.

00:49:57.500 Like, if we talk with Israel, it would be a crime for us as Lebanese.

00:50:01.500 And this is a question on behalf of the Lebanese law. 0.89

00:50:04.320 How is it a crime?

00:50:05.320 And the Lebanese law, it's a crime you were able to... 1.00

00:50:08.200 Well, I think we have to end that. 0.59

00:50:09.720 Yeah.

00:50:10.300 Okay, that's something we're going to have to end.

00:50:12.260 I'd never heard of that.

00:50:13.860 But that's a good start. 1.00

00:50:15.780 It's a crime to talk with Israel. 1.00

00:50:19.320 Well, I'm pretty sure that that'll be ended very quickly. 1.00

00:50:22.540 Okay?

00:50:23.180 I'll make sure of that. 1.00

00:50:24.720 And I know Lebanon doesn't want that. 0.99

00:50:27.320 We'll end up...

00:50:28.160 Will you work on that, please, everybody?

00:50:30.260 That's crazy.

00:50:31.520 The ship that was captured on Monday,

00:50:33.820 you said there was a gift for the iranians in it what was that in that ship one from china

00:50:40.380 yeah well we have that's very top secret yeah there was stuff in there but it's top secret

00:50:46.700 i'd like i'd like to look in that's a good question that's one of those little questions

00:50:51.100 whoa this is not good no it's uh we have a lot of things that we got you know that the uh the straight

00:50:59.820 the what we've done with the blockade is amazing and nobody nobody gets through and nobody wants

00:51:05.660 to get through nobody's trying the one tried they shut out the engine but nobody's trying 0.99

00:51:11.900 we have complete control now they can drop their minds in there and do all those stupid things 0.99

00:51:18.140 it's just going to take longer for them to make money because the minds are going to affect them 0.99

00:51:22.140 much more than they're going to affect us but and we don't know that they're doing that but

00:51:26.380 but there could be that if they're doing it, it's a very foolish thing to do.

00:51:29.900 Just like for Iran to shoot at Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar, and Kuwait, Bahrain,

00:51:37.520 all the different places they shot, nobody expected that. 0.68

00:51:42.200 They thought they'd shoot at Israel at all fairs, but you didn't expect they'd be shooting at numerous other countries.

00:51:48.280 I think it was a big mistake.

00:51:49.540 If they're putting mines down, it's a big mistake for them, I will say. 0.70

00:51:53.180 Are you angry at China for what they sent to Iran? 0.50

00:51:55.740 No, no, I guess we do the same thing, don't we? With other countries, you know, it's like one of those things. But nothing better. It wasn't earth shaken. Yeah, no, but if he came, it would be probably very helpful.

00:52:20.960 You know, I've said a long time ago when they made the G8, the G7, they threw Russia out before my time.

00:52:30.280 That was Obama and a certain prime minister from a place called Canada, Strudeau. 1.00

00:52:38.320 And I said, that's a stupid thing to do. 1.00

00:52:42.140 And I was right. 0.99

00:52:42.840 You know, they spent, I'd go to these meetings of the G7 and about 90% of the meeting was talking about Russia.

00:52:50.960 and what's going on with Russia. And I said, why'd you throw them out? You know, if they didn't throw

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2026

Episode 5323： Stopping The Unconstitutional Gerrymandering Of Virginia

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