Sen. Cory Booker (D-New Jersey) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D, New York) join CNN's Opinions Editor-in-Chief Maria Cardona to discuss the mass shooting in Las Vegas, which took place on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
00:00:00.000I think, frankly, a lot of it is that politically, I don't think Donald Trump wants to say the biggest threat to America is extremism,
00:00:10.840because I think he wants to convince America the biggest threat to our country is anybody who doesn't like him.
00:00:19.980And that that is unfortunate because that allows this stuff to flourish on both sides.
00:00:27.120And you've got him saying unspeakable things, things that you and I, 10, 20 years ago, said, well, no president of the United States would ever say that.
00:00:38.180No president of the United States would ever do that.
00:00:42.020And I'm not saying that he caused this.
00:00:44.920I'm saying that he could help more than anyone else if he would change the way he views the world and quit seeing his position of power as his main job is vengeance on those people that he thinks are his enemies.
00:01:00.220Which is precisely what he stated at Charlie Kerr's memorial service, that he hates his political opponents.
00:01:06.500Our First Lady Melania is here. Look at Melania, so beautiful.
00:01:10.240Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.
00:01:14.920For example, as the First Lady of the United States pointed out this morning,
00:01:18.940just two days prior to the shooting, ABC's late-night host Jimmy Kimmel
00:01:23.100disgustingly called First Lady Melania Trump an expectant widow.0.94
00:01:27.640Who in their right minds says a wife would be glowing over the potential murder of her beloved husband?0.98
00:01:33.480And having experienced what I did with the First Lady on Saturday night,
00:01:36.600I can tell you that she was anything but that.
00:01:39.660This kind of rhetoric about the President, the First Lady, and his supporters is completely deranged,
00:01:44.540And it's unbelievable that the American people are consuming it, night after night after night.
00:01:49.840Just from the rhetoric, you mentioned the First Lady and Jimmy Kimmel.
00:01:53.540Jimmy Kimmel's comments were, Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.
00:01:58.540And he said this days before the shooting.
00:02:01.040But there does seem to be a normalization of rhetoric about assassinating this particular president.
00:02:10.540How can this administration try to put an end to this?
00:02:15.360Well, I think you heard it directly from the president on Saturday night, Aisha,
00:02:18.900that in his words, we need to recommit ourselves as a country to toning down the rhetoric
00:02:24.520and to unifying around what makes our country great.
00:02:28.960That's true of everyone who works in this White House.
00:02:31.640But as I said, it's also true of everyone who has a voice and a platform across this country,
00:02:37.100whether you're on television, a podcast host, you know, people listen.0.50
00:02:43.520And when you have mentally disturbed individuals across the country who are listening to this crazed rhetoric about the president day after day after day,0.53
00:02:51.920it inspires them to do crazy things.0.72
00:02:53.920And unfortunately, it's not just the media.
00:02:56.700It is the entire Democrat Party has made their pitch to voters across the country that Donald Trump poses an existential threat to democracy,0.94
00:03:05.540that he is a fascist and that they compare him to Hitler.0.51
00:03:08.840I mean, these are despicable statements that the American people have been consuming for years.0.67
00:03:13.880And so many mentally perturbed individuals are led to believe these words are truth
00:03:20.880I have a whole host of examples that we can share with you after.
00:03:24.500It is pages and pages of major Democrat Party elected officials saying,
00:03:30.300such as Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, just this April, this month, said,
00:03:33.560we are in an era of maximum warfare everywhere all the time. Governor Josh Shapiro said heads
00:03:40.000need to roll within the administration. Senator Alex Padilla said people are, quote, dying because
00:03:46.420of fear and terror caused by the Trump administration. Senator Elizabeth Warren,
00:03:51.020President Trump is making the country look like a, quote, fascist state. Senator Adam Schiff saying
00:03:56.460President Trump using a dictator playbook. Senator Ed Markey calling President Trump a dictator,
00:04:01.800saying that this administration's actions are authoritarianism on steroids. Governor J.B.
00:04:07.280Pritzker, never before in my life have I called for mass protest disruptions. These Republicans
00:04:12.280cannot know a moment of peace. You have Rep. Presley saying we'll see you in the streets.
00:04:18.740Monica McIver, a Democrat representative on Capitol Hill, we will not take this
00:04:23.500from Donald Trump. He thinks he's a dictator. We are at war. These are Democrat elected officials
00:04:29.900calling for war against the president of the United States and his supporters.
00:04:34.200I could go on and on, but again, when you have people in positions of power
00:04:37.820that are saying things like this every single day for years,0.92
00:04:41.860you are inspiring violence by people who are already mentally ill.0.90
00:04:45.780And that's what we've seen against this president for far too long.0.76
00:04:48.220When you have a president who, and many people in this room,
00:04:51.500if we're going to be honest about it, has done it as well.
00:04:54.260They're just as guilty as a lot of people on X.
00:04:56.700When you have reporters, when you have media just being overly critical and calling the president horrible names for no reason and without evidence, without proof, it shouldn't surprise us that this type of rhetoric takes place.
00:05:11.540If you look at what it appears that this defendant had in his past, we're talking about somebody who is college educated, who has a job, who is otherwise living his life.
00:05:21.560And we'll find out more about him, as I expect, in the coming days and weeks.
00:05:28.660And so our threat environment is we are ready.
00:05:31.400I mean, I'm not going to go through what Director Patel just talked about with the way we responded.
00:05:35.840But this was something that we will always be prepared for.
00:05:39.580And it's sad that it has to happen, but it's not a new thing, unfortunately.
00:05:43.740Well, Katie, I can tell you that the charges that have been brought against Allen based on the magistrate judge's reading of the charges to him
00:05:50.160are slightly different than those previewed by U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro on Saturday night.
00:05:55.540Chiefly, the first charge against him is an attempt to assassinate the president of the United States.
00:06:00.440That's a charge that was also brought against would-be assassin Ryan Ruth,
00:06:05.900who in Florida tried to assassinate the president at Mar-a-Lago.
00:06:12.100The second charge is transportation of a firearm and ammunition in interstate commerce
00:06:17.560with the intent to commit a felony. I had predicted yesterday that that would likely
00:06:21.220be one of the charges because we know from what law enforcement has told us so far that Cole
00:06:28.820Allen got on a train in California, traveled to Washington, D.C. over Amtrak. That's an easy
00:06:34.360charge for the government to bring here, given that he traveled all of those states in between
00:06:39.860carrying the components of a firearm. And then the third is a discharge of a firearm during a
00:06:45.200crime of violence. We know that the government is also asking for life imprisonment, according
00:06:51.900to our producer who's in the courtroom right now. They are also asking for preventative
00:06:57.120detention. That's not a surprise, meaning they want him in custody indefinitely until
00:07:02.980his trial. And that's those are the things that we know right now. But his lawyers, appointed
00:07:09.100federal public defenders, are essentially saying that he has no criminal history. There's
00:07:13.440no reason for him to be in detention. I don't expect that a magistrate judge is going to side
00:07:17.660with Cole Allen's lawyers on this one.
00:13:44.020Our arsenal is depleting in so many ways.
00:13:47.660Steve, there's an interesting Atlantic piece out by Missy Ryan and some of her colleagues really illuminating the tension between Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth about the size,
00:14:00.980the consumption of the arsenal that's called certain systems that's called that's called
00:14:05.740that's called a sanction leak there's a lot of that yeah with this crowd marco pete and uh jd
00:14:11.120they're they're now instead of focusing on winning the war they're focused on taking each other out
00:14:16.340anyway uh dr thayer stick right there we also have a huge victory in the supreme court in the state
00:14:22.560of texas on redistricting governor ron de santis has exploded over the battlefield with some
00:14:30.460shrapnel on his map for the great state of florida uh and uh and caroline wren is in tallahassee
00:14:39.660the virginia uh crowd got to argue at their supreme court today jeff ryer the head of the
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00:16:26.920bannon okay dr thayer is going to stick with me talking about color revolutions here in this
00:16:32.400country also the russians are now players iranians the persians went to moscow that's a long time
00:16:39.980ally their strategic ally have been for a long time get back to dr thayer in a moment because
00:18:49.480When this is all said and done, if we go and he hammers through the map that he's put out, given we've already done this exercise before, I think in 2022, and that was initiated and really driven by Alex de Gras.
00:19:03.580Because the state legislatures often don't want to do them.
00:19:06.600And this is why DeSantis is calling back in a special session.
00:19:10.500At the end of this, if we get to DeSantis' map, correct me if I'm wrong, it's 24 to 4 in Florida, 24 Republican districts seats and four Democrat.
00:19:23.940Yes, I think that would be the most likely outcome looking at this map right now.
00:19:27.640And so that would be, you know, that would be a net pickup of four seats for Republicans, which is great.
00:19:33.780And I also think, again, it reflects where the state has moved to.
00:19:37.580And so I think that the concentration really left of Democrats, even though like there is Palm Beach County, which I live in Palm Beach County.
00:19:45.380I actually think that district could still go red, like the new one that is drawn.
00:19:49.900I don't know if this is where Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago is.
00:19:54.000You know, there's some bluish areas there.
00:19:56.240But where I think the Democrats are freaking out is that there's no longer, they lost what they believed to be a seat in Tampa area.
00:20:04.480But the reality is like Tampa area population has also changed.
00:20:07.520That's where you've seen the most Democrats leave the state, in fact.
00:20:10.900And so I do think that this map is very representative of where we currently are in our state.
00:20:22.700You could have the House vote on it as soon as tomorrow night.
00:20:24.940But I think the legislature will hopefully move this along very quickly and have it on Governor DeSantis' desk to sign by Thursday.
00:20:31.820But this is the kind of aggressive – it is about demographics, about population shift.
00:20:36.800But this is what people have been waiting for, a 24-4 map in Florida, just like they're trying to destroy the Republican Party in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:20:45.560This eviscerates the Democratic Party in these – because they have no state – they have no state officeholders right now.
00:20:53.780this crushes the democratic party at the federal level in the great state of florida one of our
00:20:59.160most booming states well yeah but also even if you're just talking about the population changes0.96
00:21:06.000this is relevant to all red states this is why it's driving me crazy that a lot of these red
00:21:09.940states don't have the backbone that ron de santis does during covid and for a number of other
00:21:14.840reasons you've seen a mass shift in the united states population and they've been fleeing
00:21:19.440blue states for red states and those are largely people that were sick of blue state policies well
00:21:24.680when they move they uh often are coming and voting republicans if you move from california to say
00:21:30.560georgia or alabama you come because you don't want that lifestyle that the democrat party was
00:21:35.820giving you there and those folks are registered republicans and so it's driving me crazy that
00:21:40.220we're not doing more of these redistricting in these deeply red states because our population
00:21:45.220has shifted. The Democrats, their party only exists in a few major cities, Los Angeles,
00:21:51.200San Francisco, Chicago, Boston, New York City. Past that, they're done. They're a dying breed.
00:21:57.800The Electoral College is going to be absolutely brutal to them. After this next census, and if
00:22:03.220Donald Trump is successful, especially if we are successful in keeping illegals from being counted
00:22:08.100in the census, the 2032 presidential race will be a bloodbath for Democrats. They will never0.68
00:22:15.140win the Electoral College again. This is why they desperately are trying to get in now. They want
00:22:19.780the House, Senate, and presidency in 2038, so they will nuke the filibuster, what John Thune and our
00:22:25.520Republicans are unwilling to do. They will make Puerto Rico and D.C. states, and they will pack
00:22:30.560the Supreme Court because they know that they have no hope after 2032. So, Caroline, we were told that
00:22:38.260what we did in Texas was racist. It was xenophobic. It would never pass the Supreme Court.
00:22:44.160put their stamp on that today, correct?
00:23:12.740So I want to watch this process happen. And I feel very comfortable that the legislature looks like that.
00:23:19.420I think Governor DeSantis team has handled this very well. And so I'm very hopeful that this is going to pass.
00:23:24.460And then it becomes similar to Virginia where it's going to be a battle through the courts.
00:23:28.260But, you know, I think it'll make it to the Florida Supreme Court.
00:23:31.340And I'm hoping that they do the right thing and rule correctly and say, yes, we need a map that reflects the Florida today, not Florida 10 years ago.
00:23:39.080Caroline Wren, where do people get you on social media to follow you while you're in Tallahassee, ma'am?
00:23:46.760It is at Caroline Wren on X, Getter, and Truth Social.
00:23:54.280Let's go again. Dr. Thayer, we're going to go back to in a second.
00:23:56.840Talk about this. They rejected, President Trump rejected their offer today.
00:24:01.120Do I have Neil McCabe at the White House?
00:24:03.160Neil McCabe, the king is there, right?
00:24:06.700This is the first time I think a king, we've had the queen a couple of times in 1976, I think she came, and in 1991, this is the first time a king's been here.
00:24:17.980And I think it's only the second time, it was in 1938, I believe.
00:24:22.520You have the king, but we had to do something not quite so high profile was to, or so hoity-toity, you were down at the arraignment.
00:24:31.020Tell me about the arraignment of the would-be assassin.
00:24:32.940right steve so the arraignment was held uh shortly before 2 p.m before the magistrate judge
00:24:42.980matthew sharbaugh and he was brought in uh cole out uh cole thomas allen he was wearing a blue
00:24:51.860jumpsuit he wasn't really demonstrative he sat at the table he stood for a moment the judge told
00:24:57.700him he could sit. He entered no plea because he had just met his public defender legal team.
00:25:05.220But Jocelyn Ballantyne, the assistant attorney, the assistant U.S. attorney representing the
00:25:11.480government, Ballantyne put forward three charges. One, attempt to assassinate the President of the
00:25:16.720United States. Two, bringing firearms across state lines to commit a felony and then firing
00:25:24.600firearms and the commitment of a violent act. Those are the three charges right now. The highest
00:25:31.120penalty of those three charges, of course, is the assassination attempt on the president,
00:25:35.360but that's only a life. Now, although Ballantyne told the judge that Allen had committed acts of
00:25:42.340terrorism, they did not file any terrorism charges. And so that may come later. Janine
00:25:48.860Pierrot, the U.S. attorney for D.C., said at the press conference today with Kash Patel and Todd
00:25:53.760Blanche that there could be more charges. And so it'd be interesting to see if this thing can be
00:25:59.540escalated to a death penalty, Steve. Don't know about that, but there'll definitely be other
00:26:05.980charges. Look, I'm all for, I think they ought to go for the death penalty because you put the
00:26:10.900stop this nonsense, but who knows if they're going to get to that level. But there will be
00:26:15.760a superseding indictment. They'll lay a bunch more charges on this guy. No doubt. Neil, stay right
00:26:22.260there. We have the King and the Queen of the United Kingdom are in the White House, kicking off the
00:26:31.380250th commemoration of our independence, everything rolling up to July 4th. Brian Glenn is at the
00:26:40.900Trump Kennedy Center. Even as we speak, there's an event there that also kicks it off. And he's got
00:26:47.280Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, is there.
00:26:49.260We're going to do in the next block, we're going to do a live interview with Kevin.
00:26:54.980Dr. Thayer is going to stick around.0.99
00:26:56.520We've got to get to the big—the Persians went to Moscow today.0.99
00:27:02.520So this is really now a great power issue.
00:27:05.920The Chinese Communist Party, the KGB that runs Russia, and President Trump,
00:27:11.920this is how we get this thing sorted out.
00:27:14.220President Trump rejected their proposal today that they would open Hormuz,
00:27:18.280we would stand down on the blockade, and they would get around to coming back to us
00:27:23.440with some thoughts about their nuclear program.
00:27:26.300President Trump was having none of it.
00:27:28.280We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:27:30.140Also, at the 6 o'clock hour, Brian Harrison from Texas,
00:27:33.280Jeff Ryler from the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:27:35.920The redistricting wars continue on, and we've got the momentum.
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00:35:37.540And Brad, as soon as they come back, we're going to jump to Kevin O'Leary.0.67
00:35:41.780But how big a deal is this that now the Persians, specifically after saying they were too busy to really meet with Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, flew to Moscow?
00:35:56.700and there's all kind of footage we'll get some up tomorrow morning there's all kind of footage of
00:36:01.060them rubbing up on putin and putin saying it's so great uh he said he talked to the ayatollah the
00:36:06.760other day uh all this this is now a big this is a great powers issue sir well it is and it always
00:36:16.020has been uh but the great power that matters of course is beijing it's washington and beijing
00:36:21.840and Tehran are going to resolve this issue. So Iranian negotiators can go to Moscow. That's fine
00:36:29.220and have an excellent discussion, I'm sure, with Putin. But it's a strategic cul-de-sac.
00:36:34.680The Russians aren't going to be able to help them in any substantive way. And Russia's interests0.87
00:36:39.500are not with Iran at this stage, but with the United States. So given what President Trump
00:36:46.740has already conveyed about increasing tariffs on any country that would be aiding Iran.0.58
00:36:53.980I think as well as Russia's interests in Ukraine, Moscow is going to be loathed to help the
00:43:34.960of course there was the flinty Yankees0.89
00:43:38.020up in Maine and in Vermont, New Hampshire,0.77
00:43:40.760Now, there's not a ton of them like it used to be. New Hampshire and these places used to have huge Republican parties. They still have big Republican parties, but these have Republican parties that ran the state.
00:43:51.700um 24 i think it's 24 congressmen all democrat not one republican in california 48 to uh 48 to
00:44:04.740four and what ron de santis did was i believe completely and totally heroic this map and it
00:44:13.040just reflects caroline wren is correct and that's the mantra you hear from caroline wren
00:44:17.120all week from Tallahassee, is what you're seeing is just a manifestation or a reflection
00:44:23.040of the demographic shifts, what's happened of folks coming into the states. Now, we have
00:44:31.060Republican registrations, 1.5 million more than Democrat. I mean, the two states have been just
00:44:40.340extraordinary. You think from 16, because 16, we were sweating bullets in Florida and Ohio.
00:44:46.500Remember, Florida and Ohio were the two that if you won those, you won the presidency as a Republican.
00:44:51.060Not the case anymore, but we've kind of taken those, I don't want to say off the map, but there's enough of a spread.
00:44:59.580Obviously, right now, Ohio's got real issues in the governor's race, and that governor's race could affect the Senate race, particularly Sherrod Brown.
00:45:14.620If you see the map, you're kind of shocked by it because they've only, the Democrats are now limited to a, basically some coastal enclaves and I think a university, I think it's a university enclave, but it's 24 to 4, 24 to 4.
00:45:34.200And I agree with Caroline Wren 100 percent. If the map, if we had been aggressive, and I don't think we were aggressive, there have been another two seats picked up in Texas. The Supreme Court today, huge news, the Supreme Court approved the Texas map.
00:45:52.800And this after weeks and weeks and weeks that, you know, you're a nativist, you're a racist.
00:45:58.140This is xenophobic. Nothing could be farther from the truth.0.79
00:46:02.080And Brian Harrison, who initiated this entire project here on the War Room, is going to join us at at six o'clock and talk to us about what it means for him and what it means for the people in the great state of Texas.
00:46:44.480We got almost right below two million votes with no money, pure grassroots.
00:46:49.480And that was the third victory for the grassroots.
00:46:51.560And now Paxton, depending on the poll you look, Paxton could be up five, six, seven, eight points, was still having an unbelievable amount of money spent to destroy him.
00:47:03.980So just an incredible day in this redistricting war.
00:47:07.220Everything you heard over the last week, particularly about Virginia, oh, you guys initiated it.
00:47:13.100No, this got initiated in New York State.
00:47:15.860This is why DeGrasse is such an expert on it.
00:47:17.780This got started, initiated in New York State years ago.
00:47:21.700And I tell people if DeGrasse and War Room and a handful of others hadn't gotten on top of this situation in 2022, you would not have control of the House today.
00:47:32.860It was really, to a large extent, not simply flipping these seats or getting these seats so they were basically fair redistricting.
00:47:41.080But it was the momentum of the grassroots and the fire put under the grassroots that these things are achievable.
00:47:47.180These things are doable. That's what's so important about these redistricting wars.
00:47:51.720And this is why Governor DeSantis is to be is to be congratulated and I think honored that he did this.
00:48:02.120This map and people in D.C., they're in shock.
00:48:06.020They would think he may come up with one. He may come to he's a he's a he's a risk averse politician.
00:48:13.180He's now getting down to his, he's getting down to the end of his term.
00:48:22.560And this is what we need to right this ship and to give people momentum.
00:48:26.160Also, what I'm hearing, and Degrass is working this, Mississippi came out.
00:48:31.240I think other states are going to come out, Louisiana.
00:48:33.120When we have this gerrymandering along racial lines, when that is thrown out by the courts and the liberals on the court are slow walking this, they're slow walking this because they don't want to give enough time to actually change the districts for this midterm.
00:48:54.200A number of states have already come up and said, hey, we don't care how late this is going to go.
00:51:15.640But the Butler, Pennsylvania situation, the situation of President Trump's golf course in a Trump national down in in in West Palm Beach.0.53
00:51:27.740And then the other day on Saturday night, we had these would be assassins who are looking to kill and assassinate President Trump.
00:51:38.280That's how important that's how important President Trump is to our movement.
00:51:41.780They understand this. They understand to take him down is going to chop block everything we're working on.
00:51:47.380And that's what this, you know, they put him on the we've had this debate on the show, you know, like in Virginia.
00:51:54.160You don't want to do it. You don't want to be too loud. You can't be too loud.
00:51:56.840They tell the Gresh can't be too loud because don't let them know that this is about Trump.
00:52:03.340Oh, Mike. OK, we're not going to go to. OK, they're still trying to get worked out there.
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