Bannon's War Room - Episode 5335： Supreme Court Invalidates Louisiana's Congressional Map

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.600 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.360 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.720 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.680 Joe Allen, by the way, it's Wednesday, 29 April, Euro-Roller, 2026.

00:00:57.520 We are packed in this hour. I want to thank Max Tegmark for being here.

00:01:01.380 Joe Allen, your thoughts. I know you've got to bounce, too.

00:01:05.880 Steve, I'd like to go back to the pro-human declaration that Max was talking about.

00:01:10.520 I really encourage the audience to have a look at it.

00:01:14.100 It's the humanstatement.org.

00:01:17.000 It really is a counterbalance to everything that we're hearing from the tech oligarchs, from their lackeys in the government.

00:01:24.200 this pro-human declaration is not necessarily political it is hopefully the basis for any

00:01:33.420 legislation we get but the primary goal really was to find something that people across political

00:01:41.520 divides across class divides in many cases could all get behind so talking about keeping human

00:01:49.100 beings in charge, not turning over society to the machine, talking about protecting the human

00:01:54.640 experience. So forcing companies to label their AIs as bots so that people aren't fooled into

00:02:00.640 believing they're dealing with a human when they're talking to a machine, protecting human

00:02:06.400 agency and especially protecting children. And, you know, as far as legislation goes, the final

00:02:14.860 section on holding these companies accountable is probably the most relevant these companies are

00:02:21.740 running roughshod over the american public and over the the working classes and and frankly

00:02:28.760 white collar classes of the world they have to be put in check and as you had said earlier steve 0.98

00:02:35.220 government is definitely not the ideal instrument but it is in fact the only way that you have some 0.77

00:02:43.320 An agency or an entity powerful enough to confront these companies that the humans, that the people of America, that the citizens actually have some say and have some control over.

00:02:56.180 How do you deal with, you know, we have to, it's a stark reality.

00:03:02.440 You know, Andreessen owns the Speaker of the House of Florida.

00:03:05.780 You got a guy like DeSantis, pretty powerful.

00:03:07.520 Although people will say, well, he's a lame duck and he got through this and we're going to go to Caroline here as soon as she frees up in Tallahassee.

00:03:16.080 He got through the redistricting, but he couldn't.

00:03:20.400 He basically crashed on the shore of AI because the Speaker of the House is basically in the pocket of Andreessen.

00:03:28.860 How are the American people, how are you supposed to fight back when you've got these guys and put these big funds in?

00:03:33.840 I mean, we're going to have to make taking money from these A.I. packs as toxic as it is to take it from other people, too.

00:03:40.820 Correct. Yeah, I agree completely.

00:03:43.600 And, you know, what can you do but just keep hammering, hammering, hammering, hammering?

00:03:47.960 That was an unfortunate. I think it's safe to say that was an unfortunate defeat in Florida.

00:03:55.520 But, you know, these things are going to keep happening.

00:03:57.560 You know, I keep telling people I was speaking actually to some gentlemen for a documentary and we talked a lot about the goal to use the government to hold these companies in check.

00:04:08.120 And I think that's really, really important. And people have to keep fighting for that.

00:04:12.220 They have to hammer for everything from child protection to accountability for these companies to putting caps on what the powers of these AIs could actually arrive at.

00:04:22.340 So putting a cap on superintelligence, you can't do it. You can't build something that is an AI god. I think that's a kind of minimal asks. But to the extent that people peg all their hope on specific policies or specific politicians, I think that it's simply not going to last.

00:04:41.320 This is going to be a lifelong fight, and so the politics are an important element of it, but ultimately people have to simply tell themselves, I am not a subject to this machine, I am not a subject to the oligarchs, and everything emerging out of that will ultimately lead to a victory for, I hate to use the term, Steve, it sounds awfully grand, for the human race.

00:05:09.160 but no that's what we're talking about i want people don't take it from joe allen who's been

00:05:14.360 here what five years talking about this writing about this and being uh just a fantastic guide

00:05:20.680 sherpa uh don't take it from steve bannon or max tegmark go to go to go to axios right now and

00:05:28.080 axios gives you a cut through to every article out there where people actually said this and i mean

00:05:34.600 And look, it's natural for folks that think like oligarchs or autocrats understanding they have a technology that's going to give them unlimited wealth and power in this physical manifestation because these people do not believe.

00:05:51.680 They're all atheists.

00:05:52.700 This is why Kara Swisher has that show on CNN. 0.98

00:05:55.880 They want to live forever. 0.89

00:05:57.180 What do we say the absolute, the reason transhumanism and the reason I got concerned about it 20 years ago when I tried to do the film on transhumanism, you know, that people see Homo sapien on this side of the line and Homo sapien 2.0, particularly the ability to live forever. 0.70

00:06:18.380 And they want to separate out humanity from that.

00:06:21.360 That's why they have this whole theory about carrying capacity of the planet.

00:06:24.460 and they want to get down, you know, some of them say 500 million.

00:06:27.920 I think it's much less than that of the carrying capacity.

00:06:32.520 And you can see everything they're doing is heading to that.

00:06:36.840 To know that we have folks right now,

00:06:41.180 as much as this audience got up to speed on gain-of-function research

00:06:44.980 and how deadly it was, and Natalie Wooden's great reporting

00:06:48.420 to show that Dasek and these people, 60 minutes just glazed him

00:06:52.160 to show they were lying.

00:06:54.320 They were lying.

00:06:55.080 And yesterday, somebody got indicted.

00:06:56.700 One of Fauci's deputies got indicted, OK, indicted for felonies, for trying to cover this up and not trying to give people the information.

00:07:04.040 At the same time, The New York Times comes out today with, guess what?

00:07:08.540 They're using AI right now and hacking to create bioweapons of which we will have no control over whatsoever.

00:07:15.400 However, the Axios piece and what Mythos put out six weeks ago and had this big fight with the Department of War and others is that this kind of came out of nowhere.

00:07:26.280 And this is this whole concept of accelerating at an accelerating rate.

00:07:30.000 We're very quickly when you talk about recursive, Joe, we're not going to have the ability to control it.

00:07:37.340 this thing of artificial general intelligence and super intelligence in the machine actually

00:07:42.940 starting to perfect themselves is not five years out it's not 10 years out it is here and now

00:07:48.700 it will happen i believe within this calendar year and we're going to have to address this

00:07:53.820 as you're going to have to address the whole thing about as we've talked about joe you know

00:07:59.120 do you get your child chipped do you use uh crisper to make a more perfect human of uh of your uh

00:08:07.260 a member of the species of your children?

00:08:10.120 Do they get into Ivy League schools 0.98

00:08:11.680 unless they're chipped or have something special? 0.62

00:08:13.900 These are what's happening in education,

00:08:15.940 which we've only even scratched.

00:08:17.980 Why is Altman underwriting all this in education?

00:08:21.020 And you haven't had the first lady,

00:08:22.280 and I think the first lady is amazing. 1.00

00:08:24.500 I think she does great work.

00:08:25.920 On the artificial intelligence in the education system,

00:08:28.540 I just think she's dead wrong, not even close,

00:08:30.300 just absolutely dead wrong.

00:08:32.000 And I'm a huge supporter of Melania Trump and what she does. 0.51

00:08:36.060 So if you look at across the board with transhumanism, he just heard Teal. 0.58

00:08:40.060 Teal's one of the tips of this. 0.65

00:08:41.440 It takes him 20 seconds to answer a basic question.

00:08:43.640 Do you believe in the that we should make sure that the human species survives?

00:08:48.740 And only when the interviewer embarrass him, they come out.

00:08:52.800 Well, of course, Joe Allen.

00:08:56.580 Yeah, it goes to the heart of it, Steve.

00:08:58.340 This is a religious struggle.

00:09:00.020 This is a spiritual war.

00:09:02.460 These people, by and large, hold a vision of the universe in which we are simply floating around on a ball of dirt around the sun.

00:09:12.520 There's no God in sight, and so that God must be created.

00:09:15.960 There's no heaven for the soul to arrive at.

00:09:18.780 There's no physical resurrection that will occur miraculously, and so it must be done technologically.

00:09:24.900 It's a techno-religion that this has been pointed out for decades.

00:09:29.280 Lewis Mumford, Marshall McLuhan, David Noble, all of these people for decades, long before AI was even, you know, a real thing outside of chatbots and certain vision systems, people have talked about this techno religion.

00:09:46.280 religion. Well, now you have the capacity to create systems that even if they aren't truly

00:09:53.460 godlike, people believe are godlike. And I think that's really, really important. And they don't

00:09:59.040 have any real respect for the traditional religious systems that we come out of. And so,

00:10:07.660 yes, I think that the real danger here is first and foremost, the vision that these people have,

00:10:13.960 that we are all meatbags and that this silicon life form will be superior and we should either

00:10:19.680 create it and just pass away or create it and merge with it. That belief system is fundamentally

00:10:24.760 anti-human. Coupled with that, though, these are no longer just freaks in the basement or in the,

00:10:30.780 you know, far off laboratories. These are the wealthiest men on earth. They are creating the

00:10:36.520 systems not only that determine our economy, but also determine the outputs of our military. 0.89

00:10:41.820 They're creating the systems that determine who lives and who dies, and they're doing so with this sort of transhuman vision in mind. 0.89

00:10:50.420 Yeah, people really have to be aware, first and foremost, but they have to be ready to take action. 0.84

00:10:57.460 They have to put their force behind these governmental programs, and we have to be wise.

00:11:02.820 You don't want to be just crazy about it and just pick the first thing that comes along, but this really is the vital outlet.

00:11:09.520 When you were at Semaphore and you were joking that either you get Steve Bannon or Mom Donnie, right?

00:11:17.000 Or no, no, it was Steve Bannon or Luigi Mangione.

00:11:20.440 You know, they're trying to make this whole issue of random violence stick to the anti-tech arguments.

00:11:28.160 And it's disingenuous for many reasons.

00:11:30.400 The first and foremost reason is that we're not calling for violence and never have.

00:11:35.600 But the second is that these companies, these companies from OpenAI to Google and certainly Palantir, these companies are actually leaving real dead bodies, right? These companies are creating technologies that are either luring people to end their lives or being used to end other people's lives.

00:11:57.480 So, yeah, I think that as the public becomes aware, yes, there will be frenzy, there will be more and more mania, but the big thing for the war room posse to do is to always keep your eye on the goal.

00:12:08.720 And the goal is very simple. You want to remain human in an increasingly machinic age.

00:12:16.400 Joe, I know you've got to bounce. Where do people get you in your writings on this topic? 0.93

00:12:21.280 At J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z on X and JoeBot.X-Y-Z.

00:12:29.720 Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.

00:12:32.100 Thank you very much, Steve.

00:12:34.140 Mike Davis, we've got you on.

00:12:35.960 I want to get to the Supreme Court ruling also about Todd yesterday, which I thought was magnificent.

00:12:40.080 But first, I've got to ask you about you've been one of the fighters here, particularly the protection of children.

00:12:45.120 Where do you think we stand on this fight on the control or no control over artificial intelligence?

00:12:52.320 I think we're in great shape.

00:12:54.440 The 4C's framework that we developed at the Article III project with the War Room Posse is very much holding.

00:13:03.280 The Trump administration has adopted the 4C framework and its proposals on AI.

00:13:10.420 We're working closely with David Sachs on this and his team, and the vice president is certainly supportive of this 4C framework.

00:13:20.720 So it's children, communities, creators, and conservatives, and those four will be protected in any framework that tries to preempt state laws on AI.

00:13:36.700 So if the AI companies want federal preemption from state laws, they can't have amnesty.

00:13:45.060 They have to have federal rules of the road.

00:13:47.360 We're not going to do Section 230 amnesty and antitrust amnesty like we did for almost two decades with big tech that led to the trillion-dollar big tech monopolist,

00:13:56.800 Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple that crushed competition, shuttered small businesses, and

00:14:02.480 canceled conservatives and others with whom they disagreed. It's not going to happen again in the

00:14:08.220 Article 3 projects, and the war room posse is going to make damn sure. Do you think this will

00:14:13.940 show up that this would be Blackburn's, her Trump AI, the Save America Act, or her version of this?

00:14:20.780 She's very much on our side. Senator Marsha Blackburn, hopefully future Tennessee Governor

00:14:28.420 Marsha Blackburn, she's very much on our side in this fight. We're working very closely with her

00:14:34.200 and her team. And if the AI companies want federal preemption, they're not going to get amnesty. So

00:14:45.980 They're going to go with they're going to either go with the four C's or they're not going to get 60 votes in the Senate.

00:14:52.780 Mike, hang on for one second. Supreme Court, massive ruling moments ago.

00:14:56.840 Mike Davis, the Viceroy is with us. Short commercial break.

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00:16:25.740 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:31.860 We'll get back to AI on the evening show.

00:16:34.900 We've got more to cover.

00:16:36.240 Mike Davis, massive result at the Supreme Court,

00:16:40.600 and we were very concerned that the liberal justices might be slow walking this.

00:16:45.180 We talked about it last week.

00:16:46.160 What happened today, sir?

00:16:48.360 The Supreme Court, 6-3, struck down a DEI district in Louisiana.

00:16:54.620 The six conservatives, six constitutionalists stuck together,

00:17:00.380 and the holding was this, that under the Voting Rights Act of 1965,

00:17:05.860 in order to have these DEI districts, in order to have intentional racial discrimination with

00:17:13.660 these districts, you have to show that you're remediating intentional racial discrimination.

00:17:19.540 So you can't just demand minority districts in these states. The state legislatures get to draw

00:17:30.340 these districts. They get to draw them based upon politics. And again, unless you can show

00:17:36.180 intentional racial discrimination, the courts need to stop getting involved with redrawing

00:17:42.520 these districts. And these legislatures cannot use race to draw these districts. No more DEI

00:17:49.300 districts. And so this means, and cheers to the six constitutionalist justices for following the

00:17:57.140 law here sticking together. Justice Clarence Thomas would go one step farther. Remember,

00:18:03.460 Justice Clarence Thomas is our black Supreme Court justice who grew up in the segregated South,

00:18:10.100 in the Jim Crow South. He would go one step farther. Clarence Thomas says that the Voting 0.71

00:18:16.360 Rights Act of 1965 had nothing to do with congressional districts. It had to do with

00:18:21.380 voting. So he would say that the Voting Rights Act has not, there should not be a factor in this at

00:18:27.420 all, which is even more correct, more conservative. My old boss, Justice Gorsuch, joins that concurring

00:18:34.440 opinion. But the holding is this, that unless there's intentional racial discrimination, no more

00:18:39.960 racial discrimination in these districts, no more DEI districts. This means that if the

00:18:47.440 Republican state leaders in the South, the legislatures, the governors get moving,

00:18:54.780 Republicans could shift 12 seats from Democrat control to Republican control for this next

00:19:03.460 midterm election. And that is crucial. That could be the deciding factor, whether Republicans

00:19:09.200 keep the House and continue to secure the border and bring affordability to real Americans in

00:19:16.320 real America, or if we have two years of Democrats impeaching President Trump, defunding ICE,

00:19:25.000 defunding law enforcement, opening up the border, and making our lives living hell. So

00:19:29.520 the Republican Southern politicians get moving and redraw these lines.

00:19:36.260 How many seats are you talking about, potentially?

00:19:38.640 Twelve. Twelve.

00:19:40.680 Twelve. In the South. The grass is going to be here. Mike, fantastic. I know you've

00:19:46.240 worked hard on this and great forgiveness to heads up by how the liberal judges were slow

00:19:50.280 walking this a couple of weeks ago. Where do people go to support all your amazing work, sir?

00:19:57.420 Article three project dot org, article number three project dot org. Donate. Follow us on

00:20:03.100 social media. As always, the War Room Posse's superpower is action, action, action. Let's get

00:20:09.440 the senators to pass the SAVE Act and to fund the DHS, including Secret Service and ICE. That's

00:20:16.440 the most crucial task for the War Room Posse. Amen, brother. Thank you so much. Appreciate you.

00:20:22.940 Thank you. Caroline Wren is in Tallahassee. Caroline, can you, first off, your

00:20:31.080 observations of what the Supreme Court just did?

00:20:34.940 Well, I think that's huge news. It was a historic blow to the left's decades-long strategy of using the Voting Rights Act, I guess, as a weapon for their, you know, race-first district engineering.

00:20:47.320 And from what I can tell, the Democrats are panicking because their redistricting strategy depended on courts forcing states to sort Americans by race.

00:20:54.360 And, you know, that is no longer going to be the case.

00:20:56.800 how many seats we can pick up between like now and the election in 2026. I don't know. Some of

00:21:02.800 these Southern states that could redistrict the primaries have already passed. Um, but I, you

00:21:08.160 know, I think up to 12, some people are even saying up to 20, um, over the next couple of years,

00:21:13.020 but you know, the governors of Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, um, a couple others,

00:21:18.860 they, they should be calling a special session right now and redrawing their maps based off

00:21:23.400 this decision? No, we need everybody at the ramparts to this. You can't take a pass on this.

00:21:29.820 Talk to us about what happened in Tallahassee this morning. Yeah. So the Florida House just

00:21:35.300 passed the state's new congressional map, and so it is now being debated in the Senate. It is

00:21:39.980 expected to pass the Senate this afternoon, and then it will go over to DeSantis' desk either

00:21:44.880 tonight or tomorrow morning. I was in the chamber watching the debate in the House chamber, and it

00:21:50.740 was pretty interesting. There was a Democrat legislator who was saying how this map is illegal

00:21:55.780 because of the Voting Rights Act, as I get an alert on my phone that the Supreme Court had

00:22:00.620 just ruled on VRA. And so it was pretty kind of neat to be in there for history and just see that

00:22:06.540 their arguments were falling apart. And credit to Ron DeSantis, who predicted this. He mapped out

00:22:12.000 this timing around releasing the map and around this VRA decision coming out. And so we got to

00:22:18.060 give DeSantis some credit for getting this done oh no he put a lot of political capital on this

00:22:24.340 and putting pressure on the uh on the house um can you stick around because I'm gonna get to

00:22:29.180 grass up here in the in the bottom of the hour I want to go back through because this has got to

00:22:33.480 be general quarters right now and this is the type of thing you saw in Virginia the people are

00:22:38.460 motivated grassroots are motivated right now I'm hearing from Virginia that some experts down there

00:22:43.600 saying, hey, if the if the Supreme Court doesn't move by Tuesday, that what they've done there

00:22:48.440 would have to be for 2028. It can't be for 2026. So I think you're seeing the war and posse and

00:22:54.800 other grassroots organizations understand that they've had a massive impact here, Caroline.

00:23:00.480 It has had a massive impact. And I'm curious also how this decision with VRA would affect

00:23:04.900 the Virginia map that they just ruled. I think a lot of it will largely be illegal. So we'll see.

00:23:09.420 I don't I'm being very curious to hear what Degrass has to say as to which ones could come into effect.

00:23:15.420 I've heard, you know, Alabama, Mississippi, obviously, Louisiana, Georgia.

00:23:20.860 I believe that they had done a redistricting map that got struck down by the Georgia Supreme Court due to VRA.

00:23:27.080 So are they able to bring that? You know, you've got these primaries coming up very, very soon.

00:23:31.660 And so some of them might not be that realistic, but certainly for next cycle, they will be.

00:23:35.520 okay uh caroline you just hang on for a second i gotta get jack but so begin here so poso this

00:23:41.660 morning on cbs news todd blanche was there and they started off by chop blocking him saying hey

00:23:47.820 um you know why are you going after why are you going after comey and comey i think just turned

00:23:54.280 himself in when jack but so big the jack but so big did the exact same thing to joe biden back in

00:24:00.940 I think 21, 22, the exact same message. And you're not going after him for endangering the president.

00:24:07.140 Your response, sir? Well, Steve, I saw the attorney general's comments and I saw the CBS report.

00:24:14.680 I do remember the tweet from 2022. And I've discussed this with my family and I've discussed

00:24:22.040 this with my legal team. And as of this time, I am now fully prepared to turn myself in

00:24:29.740 in state's evidence to cooperate with the Department of Justice and testify against

00:24:36.020 James Comey. So I will cooperate in any way possible in the prosecution of James Comey,

00:24:43.260 and I await my opportunity to testify and be called in court.

00:24:48.780 But isn't it some some radical attorney general, state attorney general going to come after you

00:24:56.460 and try to charge you with the exact same thing that they charged, that they charge.

00:25:00.780 Now, it was a year investigation, so there's a lot more there than you see the eye.

00:25:05.140 But aren't these these state AGs, I can tell you from personal experience, they don't care about the law.

00:25:10.480 What they care about is taking out some of Trump's best people, sir.

00:25:15.360 Steve, the context here is very clear.

00:25:17.480 The context of 2022 was the 25th Amendment, like I said, here on War Room every single day for four years straight.

00:25:25.660 the context of James Comey was he was putting out a book as part of a marketing strategy

00:25:31.400 about political assassinations. That's what that post was about. His book was about political

00:25:37.660 assassinations. And his post was meant to gin up interest for his book about political

00:25:44.380 assassinations. That's why A.G. Blanche said this is a yearlong investigation. We do look into all

00:25:50.260 of this. We look into intent. We look into context. We look into every piece of it. And this is an

00:25:55.200 investigation, by the way, that was going on before Blanche became the acting AG. So it's up

00:26:01.980 to James Comey to have to now go in and explain how this was part of a marketing strategy for his

00:26:08.240 book, again, about political assassinations after we had already faced two high-profile

00:26:15.300 political assassinations. Look, it's very clear at the time everyone understood the context of

00:26:20.260 the 25th Amendment. Nobody's had a problem with that at the time because they knew the context

00:26:24.680 was different jack once again you're prepared to do what uh to testify against uh comey fully

00:26:32.200 prepared fully prepared to turn state's evidence against james comey jack posobic where the folks

00:26:39.160 go to find out more about this see the clip uh your twitter feed is the associated press

00:26:44.600 for the mega movement where do folks go i'm more than happy to folks check me out jack posobic

00:26:51.400 Over Human Events is the podcast, Apple, Spotify.

00:26:55.920 Everyone can get it there.

00:26:57.300 And, of course, CBS, Barry Weiss, more than happy to come on any time

00:27:02.160 if you have questions about this post or any of my posts.

00:27:07.680 Barry Weiss and the team at CBS has not reached out to you, sir?

00:27:12.040 I've been on Major Garrett before, but, no, she has not reached out.

00:27:16.040 So they let Major Garrett smear you, but didn't ask you for a comment?

00:27:19.780 Didn't ask you to come on?

00:27:21.400 have not been reached out by barry weiss and barry you have my number

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00:29:50.860 Stephen K. Mann.

00:29:54.340 Okay, DeGrasse joins me.

00:29:56.320 Alex, I'm going to make sure people have...

00:29:58.220 The War on Posse has it straight, but for

00:30:00.160 posterity.

00:30:02.020 Because all this cable and they're all running around,

00:30:04.460 they don't know anything from Fox

00:30:06.280 to CNN to MSNBC, or

00:30:08.040 they try to obfuscate.

00:30:09.080 this fight started in 22 because you gave us a heads up of what was happening in new york state

00:30:16.220 right how the democrats were taking a state was good they were trying to drive out all republican

00:30:22.000 seats because they're out of control in illinois california new england and new york state all

00:30:28.800 controlled by these left-wing marxist democrats that year you got involved warren got involved

00:30:34.240 we went to the mattresses there were 11 seats that changed redistricting in that year three

00:30:42.840 went democrat and eight went republican sir we would not have taken control of the house i want

00:30:49.480 everybody to remember that the redistricting wars gave us the house in 22 of in all the fights we

00:30:55.940 had there and all the fights we had with mccarthy and other people think of the disaster we would

00:31:00.800 have had if Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries or one of these radical Marxists had controlled it then,

00:31:07.680 sir? Yeah, I mean, that's right. So we flipped 11 seats, net eight. They flipped three in 2022.

00:31:15.300 And I think if you look at, obviously, we moved the ball in Florida. If those remembering,

00:31:19.900 it was sort of on the brink on how far they were going to go. And DeSantis had stepped up

00:31:25.120 at the time and deserves credit on that, of course. And then you look at New York,

00:31:29.640 obviously where, you know, Elise Stefanik sued along with the RNC and everyone. And we won in

00:31:34.140 court, which was like unprecedented. And we went up, you know, and then they went up and then they

00:31:37.900 actually, hold on, this is important. They then mid-decade redistricted going into 2024 in New

00:31:44.060 York. So they're actually the first ones, to be honest about it, that quote unquote mid-decade,

00:31:48.900 that's the media term, redistricted. So everything that we're doing is obviously in response to not

00:31:54.840 only decades of democrat gerrymandering but you know we said on this show cut and dry back in you

00:32:00.780 know three years ago steve we said look the voting rights act is very broad and it's unconstitutional

00:32:06.720 when you make the case that you know racially drawn seats at the expense of other races

00:32:11.560 is totally unconstitutional and now the ruling has happened as we predicted and i sent the map

00:32:17.840 i think in but i don't know if we can get it up on the screen but you're looking at obviously a

00:32:21.180 net of 12 seats, which could be the entire ballgame and most likely will be if we can get this done

00:32:28.160 quickly. And this isn't about politics. This isn't about anything else. This is really about

00:32:32.080 the Constitution and fair representation. I mean, you look at some of these maps that are drawn to

00:32:37.820 create a majority African-American districts, and they don't make any sense. So you look at the

00:32:42.360 Louisiana seat, which I recommend people can go look, and it's sort of a crazy seat, which you

00:32:47.600 had to do according to the Voting Rights Act. So I'm glad this has happened. Obviously, the country 0.77

00:32:53.080 is much different than it was in the 1800s, obviously. And so, look, I mean, this is really

00:32:57.540 a huge thing. And this will take the posse and the grassroots pressure to encourage, you know,

00:33:03.320 Republicans to take a stand and enact fair legal representation, because what the Supreme Court

00:33:08.260 has done is ruled that all of these maps are illegal, right? And I agree with Caroline. She

00:33:12.600 makes a huge point, which is, you know, let's look at some of the Virginia maps. I haven't had

00:33:16.760 time to him at the Honey Fox retreat down in Turks and Caicos. So I'm here on the show and

00:33:22.240 scrambled around. But this is huge. So look, I mean, we'll look at Virginia. You can't draw

00:33:28.100 racial seats now, Steve. I mean, I don't know why you ever could, right? So this is huge. And we've 0.94

00:33:33.220 been talking about this and this is a testament to everyone involved in this. And it's been a huge

00:33:37.480 effort from the very beginning because we wouldn't have the house not only in 22, but we wouldn't

00:33:42.060 have the house in 24, frankly, if North Carolina hadn't moved and anything else. So, I mean,

00:33:47.360 this is really it. And I think if we can hold them in Virginia, we flip these. I think we're

00:33:51.560 in a great spot, Steve, to hold the house. And that is something that we've been talking about

00:33:56.600 since the moment President Trump won the election, which is that is really the entire play here in

00:34:02.940 general, is we have to hold this house because if we lose the house, everything will be grinded to

00:34:06.980 hall obviously the 12 the the distribution of the 12 seats and we're at the pressure because

00:34:14.580 the governor of mississippi already came out but the 12 seats just go state by state and can we

00:34:18.780 just get a uh a figure of where these reside right now yeah so you got one in mississippi

00:34:24.540 two in alabama i gotta look at the math here at least one in georgia i believe at least one or

00:34:33.480 two in south carolina and one in north carolina and probably one or two in florida you've got the

00:34:38.940 one in louisiana um you've got one in tennessee at least so um we'll get those exact numbers i'm

00:34:48.160 just kind of looking at back of the envelope yeah but what governors what governors are saying they

00:34:52.860 can't call a special session like tomorrow and like get this done i think ronda santos has cleared

00:34:58.740 this up in his, I think he cleared it up in his map that will get approved today. But these other

00:35:05.400 governors, Mississippi's already come out and said that the governor there said he will call

00:35:09.460 emergency session, but we need everyone to call an emergency session that has, I guess, hasn't

00:35:14.260 had a primary yet, correct? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly right, Steve. I mean, anything we can get

00:35:20.300 is huge. And I think this is obviously newly breaking. So I think people that haven't commented

00:35:25.500 I think we're waiting to see if they now have a constitutional obligation, actually, Steve, to enact fair representation, not that the Supreme Court has ruled that, you know, has narrowed the Voting Rights Act, that you can't no longer, you know, draw for the sake of drawing a minority represented district at the expense of anyone else.

00:35:46.260 So, you know, that opens the entire ballgame down there in the states I mentioned.

00:35:51.420 So I think you will see folks coming out loud and we'll need people obviously speaking out.

00:35:57.120 You mean in the next in the next 24 to 48 hours? 1.00

00:36:00.940 These I'm sure these states have been planning for this because it looked like for a while we reported that, you know, the liberal judges were slow walking this to try to put us against the chocks so that nothing could happen. 1.00

00:36:13.880 Correct. 1.00

00:36:14.180 Yeah, I mean, Steve, look, this is 6-3. This is pretty clear cut. I think the posse should focus on the constitutionality aspect of this. I mean, this is cut and dry. This isn't a 5-4 contention. I mean, 6-3 is somewhat rare, Steve, I think, when you look at everything that's coming from the Supreme Court.

00:36:34.660 I think that's really important because it's pretty blatant, you know, when you look at the Constitution. So I think that these governors need to show courage. The state legislators need to show courage. You know, the Constitution is on their side. I would argue that they frankly have an obligation in their oath to office to enact, you know, fair and legal maps, of which the states I just mentioned have unlegal maps, illegal maps, technically.

00:36:57.920 right. Caroline Redd, your observations of how do we move this from the Supreme Court

00:37:03.980 saying these 12 districts are not constitutional to making sure that the states take care of this

00:37:11.320 ASAP so people don't have to live for a couple more years with unconstitutional, unfair

00:37:16.540 representation. Right. Yeah, the complicating part will definitely be the states that the

00:37:22.720 primaries have already passed. So North Carolina, Texas, Mississippi, if their primaries already

00:37:27.400 past, I just see it hard to redo the primaries if you redraw the maps. And then you have three

00:37:33.860 states that primaries come up in May. So Louisiana is May 16th, Alabama, May 19th, Georgia, May 19th,

00:37:40.240 South Carolina is June 9th. I think they have time to do it. And I hope Governor McMaster gets on top

00:37:44.740 of this. Missouri is August 4th. Tennessee is August 6th. Florida is obviously August 18th,

00:37:50.420 and they took care of that today. So I think that we'll see that come to light today as to

00:37:56.360 like which governors, you know, choose to move quickly. Frankly, they should have all done what

00:38:00.560 Louisiana did, what also, you know, Mississippi came out and they said that they would already

00:38:05.640 go do it. But also with Florida and DeSantis, like you should have already been challenging

00:38:09.860 this in your state. You should have already been calling special sessions. DeSantis called a special

00:38:14.080 session, not knowing if this ruling would come out today, but knowing that it was probably imminent.

00:38:18.240 And so it just shows that having aggressive Republican governors and leadership really

00:38:23.840 matters. And, you know, it also, the Indiana legislatures should be particularly embarrassed.

00:38:29.340 That primary is coming up on May 5th. The Trump operation is absolutely right to target these

00:38:34.260 guys in the primary. They should all lose. They all, you know, decided to go against redistricting

00:38:39.060 in the name of democracy just because they wanted to be on the good side of their friends in the

00:38:43.400 mainstream media. And I hope every one of them loses their seat. They were wrong. And so that

00:38:48.980 is a chance for you, the voters, to actually go and vote these rhinos out of office. 1.00

00:38:54.200 How big a deal is this? You've been around. How big a deal is this for the grassroots, ma'am? 1.00

00:38:59.300 It's a huge deal for the grassroots. The grassroots has been on top of this and been

00:39:03.480 pushing their governors, their state legislators on this as well. And so this is a big victory

00:39:08.860 for the grassroots. It's a big victory also for the DOJ. Harmeet Dillon and the Civil Rights

00:39:14.880 division played a huge role in this, and they deserve a lot of credit as well.

00:39:19.680 And so it's a big deal for James Blair. He's got a lot of

00:39:22.900 hits on this redistricting strategy in Virginia, but he also

00:39:27.180 was looking forward on this, and so leaned in hard on behalf

00:39:31.200 of the Trump admin to get this done. And so I think right now we just got to close it out.

00:39:35.060 And I definitely see a place where we can retain control in the midterms.

00:39:41.620 Caroline, where do people go?

00:39:43.060 you're down in tallahassee we'll catch you back on either this afternoon or tomorrow about this

00:39:46.980 ai situation down there where do we go where do we go to follow you ma'am it's at caroline wren 0.99

00:39:52.600 on x getter and truth social de grass i just want to say you know caroline just got married she's a

00:40:01.060 newlywed and she's in tallahassee she's working every day caroline just a hat tip you're working

00:40:06.220 every day you're you're fighting for this country every day i really appreciate you uh hammering

00:40:11.500 every day and delaying your honeymoon to do this appreciate you man

00:40:14.920 thank you carolyn so it's a digress you're you're down in the uh in in the in the caribbean or the

00:40:24.440 tropics uh lollygagging around uh how big a deal is this to get people to get people fired up that

00:40:31.460 these governors have to do this even if you've had a primary you may have to go back and redo it

00:40:36.440 because we need these 12 seats i mean they should look at every option of course a primary

00:40:41.300 is, you know, complicated, of course, but you look, I just sent you Axios just came out. They're

00:40:45.460 talking about 19 seats. So this thing is totally burst open. I mean, I think, you know, I think

00:40:50.460 that there, and I just went to connect with some of my folks that have been drawing the maps and

00:40:54.660 working at the redistricting side and we'll get an updated report. I'll send you Steve so that we

00:40:58.960 can educate everyone just on some of the specifics. I think, you know, we want as many wins as we can

00:41:04.360 for this cycle, but of course we'll take anything for the next one, Steve, of course. So I think

00:41:08.120 we want it now, but let's see what happens in the longer term. I mean, this really opens everything

00:41:12.860 up. The longer term fight is obviously the census, something else we've spoken about.

00:41:18.380 You take illegal immigrants out of the census, you deport who we need to be deported, which is 0.58

00:41:23.640 every illegal immigrant. You run a fair census, you get rid of, you narrow the Voting Rights Act, 0.99

00:41:28.580 you're talking about 30, 40 seats. You're talking about a Republican majority over the next half a 0.57

00:41:33.100 century. So that is really like that's the that's the whole ballgame here when you talk about it

00:41:38.520 over the next six years, really. And so that's what I know that we all need to lock in and commit

00:41:44.300 to. And all these game of inches add up. So it looks like in Virginia, the betting odds have

00:41:49.860 imploded down to 50 percent from 80 percent on Kelsey if they're going to get the 10 seat

00:41:56.100 Democrat map. So usually that's an insider or someone that knows something. But I guess,

00:42:00.780 you know, like you said, if this thing gets delayed out, I think that they'll not, you know,

00:42:05.320 be able to move it in time. So, you know, all of these little things. So I think people just

00:42:09.540 need to dig in. You know, if you're in a state, like I just mentioned, one of these core states,

00:42:13.640 and I think we'll be adding more states as we examine all the maps and what's possible. But I

00:42:18.260 think even I think we're probably going to take some suits to New England. I mean, you look at

00:42:22.220 some of these seats there. I mean, everything is totally rigged. I mean, it's totally out of control.

00:42:26.100 totally out of control uh alex where you go axios reporting potentially 19 seats every one of these

00:42:33.300 seats is going to matter i told you don't get black pilled over the midterms we're going to

00:42:37.680 get this we've got to get down and hunker down but it's all going to be fine degrasse our leader

00:42:42.860 that started in 22 and gave us the house because of his efforts where do people get you alex well

00:42:50.460 i think it's the war room posse is really what delivered this steve is and and thanks to you

00:42:54.760 of course. And then we were holding it down at 24 when you were away, of course, and everyone was

00:42:59.440 fired up. But I'm at DeGrasse 81 and I'm on X, Scatter, Truth, all of it. But, you know, really

00:43:05.120 lock in. You know, we're going to have to lock in the midterms, not just on redistricting.

00:43:09.340 So let's get this done. Thanks, everyone. Alex, thanks for taking time away. Appreciate you, sir.

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00:52:38.180 I was going to take some calls, but I'm going to save my voice.

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00:52:49.340 Mike, take care of that voice.

00:52:51.120 Appreciate you, sir.

00:52:53.540 Maybe we'll have to run a spot in the 5 o'clock show. 0.99

00:52:56.480 We need to take care of that voice.

00:52:58.300 Charlie Kirk Show up next.

00:52:59.980 Poso after that.

00:53:01.120 Poso, I have a bunch of announcements of they're trying to come after him.

00:53:05.100 Saw Major Garrett this morning.

00:53:06.560 We'll have more about that at 5 o'clock.

00:53:08.480 Steve Gruber on Real America's Voice after that.

00:53:11.340 Bowling.

00:53:12.400 Hopefully, if I get organized, I'll do a handoff with Eric.

00:53:15.820 We didn't get to talk about oil markets and the economy.

00:53:19.420 We'll try to do that this afternoon.

00:53:20.680 Then we're back here at 5 o'clock.

00:53:22.800 Stick around.

00:53:23.680 Big, big, big day in the imperial capital.

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Bannon's War Room - April 29, 2026

Episode 5335： Supreme Court Invalidates Louisiana's Congressional Map

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