00:00:00.000Donald Trump kicked off this redistricting war a year ago, it was all him, in an attempt to fortify a Republican majority in Congress, to kind of insulate it from the voters.
00:00:09.460And then Democrats responded by asking voters in California and Virginia to bring things back to par, basically literally just return to an even playing field so that neither party had an advantage.
00:00:19.500And now, of course, because Republicans cannot tolerate an even playing field, the Trump Supreme Court just helped start a new, even more egregious round of gerrymandering.
00:00:29.700Republicans are once again rigging things at lightning speed with no input from voters.
00:00:35.480So just yesterday, the Florida legislature in one day passed new maps that carve up Democratic districts to create up to four new Republican seats.
00:00:43.260We're now waiting on Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, where Republicans have all indicated their desires to seize more power for their party.
00:00:53.640The current map and the proposed map, you can see the proposed map gets much redder.
00:00:57.680nothing is guaranteed the voters still get a say but here's my question there was reticence from
00:01:03.940florida to do this for a long time even though they have a trifecta and they've got super0.91
00:01:08.080majorities so why did they turn on a dime and do it in one day because ron desantis is sucking up
00:01:14.600to donald trump i mean the fact is this may very well backfire on republicans i don't think there's
00:01:19.600a member of the house uh conference from florida that wanted this you know they're they're settled
00:01:25.260with an unpopular president. They see what the special elections and the off-year elections
00:01:30.760have brought. And so this may wind up backfiring on them. But for Ron DeSantis' standpoint,
00:01:35.760what he is doing is saying, OK, Donald Trump, you want us to gerrymander? You want us to be extreme?
00:01:41.260You want us to disenfranchise minority voters? We can do it all like that. And by the way, Chris,1.00
00:01:46.120it's in direct violation, direct violation of a state constitutional provision that bans
00:01:51.980partisan gerrymandering. I mean, it was put in the Constitution by the people of Florida
00:01:56.400as a valid measure. Republicans, after it was put in, tried to cheat after the 2010 cycle
00:02:02.940census. I sued. We won. We got a redraw. Now we're back. They're doing it again,
00:02:08.860and we're going to sue again. Absolutely right in this regard. So there are these moments that
00:02:12.740are explicit about the agenda that is being pursued here, Alicia. But, you know, as you were
00:02:18.520talking i guess i kept thinking about what the demo how we ought to respond to this right and i
00:02:24.600kept thinking about you know people were telling the democrats expecting the democrats to pass
00:02:29.600the john lewis voting rights advancement act to deal with the gutting of of of the voting rights
00:02:37.540act with regards to pre-clearance anticipation of of uh of section two but people were hiding
00:02:44.520behind Joe Manchin. It wasn't just Joe Manchin blocking it. There were some other Democrats
00:02:50.160behind it blocking it. So part of what I'm suggesting, if we're telling a story that's
00:02:54.320true, it seems to me that the Democrats need to put forward an agenda, a program, a response,
00:03:01.840a programmatic response that is at scale to what we are experiencing. And that's going to require
00:03:09.200are naming what you've just laid out, right? And being honest about what we're, what we're
00:03:21.540Now I want to go to Louisiana where something really crazy happened today. They are already
00:03:26.280voting in Louisiana. Okay. They have already started early voting for the primaries in that
00:03:31.640state for their congressional districts. The governor, Republican governor Landry, Jeff Landry,
00:03:37.160declared a state of emergency today. The emergency, unclear what the emergency is,
00:03:44.900there's not a hurricane, to stop the primary elections and hereby suspend them so they can
00:03:50.520draw another map. We have word that two voters have already sued against that. What do you make
00:03:56.040of what's happening in Louisiana? Yeah, first of all, that won't be the last lawsuit. I'll just
00:04:00.480announce first on this program there will be more litigation coming in the near future. But look,
00:04:06.180I think that we need to understand this as both a redistricting story, but also as a democracy story.
00:04:11.020The redistricting story is very clear, which is that the state of Louisiana is trying to cancel these elections so that they can gerrymander and disenfranchise black voters.
00:04:22.300But the larger democracy story, Chris, and I think you got it exactly right, is the governor has declared a state of emergency to cancel, to suspend an ongoing election.
00:04:33.480That he does not like the direction in which it's going.
00:04:36.100Now, I wonder, Chris, when we get to next November, when we get to the general election, whether or not we will have, for example, a president of the United States who will think he can do this.
00:04:46.460And if if we do not sort of put a stake in the ground now and say that you do not get to declare an emergency and suspend voting and sort of restart things because you don't like how things are going.
00:04:58.160If we don't do that now, it's not going to make it easier for us to do it in November.
00:05:02.560yeah if you look i mean there's hardball and then there's like authoritarianism and there's a line
00:05:07.800between them right it's like if you will you know for instance like you know what what they you know
00:05:12.560thank you denver uh no we can't do it now we are doing it now um because it's unconstitutional
00:05:21.080you guys have rigged this thing with this phony voting rights act for decade after decade after
00:05:27.800decade after decade and people were too gutless to challenge it in the south it got challenged
00:05:33.960and it cratered 6-3 this was not close and alito buried you alex degras let's go around the horn
00:05:42.080first off what's your response to their general and they are in meltdown like i have not seen
00:05:47.340because they understand they cannot stop the only thing you can stop us is ourselves
00:05:57.000I think, like, obviously they're in total freefall because I think if you look at the map and where seats will be able to shift, because this is super important for the posse and those out there conversing with folks is, you know, they have been gerrymandering for decades, not only just through taking advantage of the Voting Rights Section of the Voting Rights Act, but also obviously in all of these blue states.
00:06:18.100So we have way more seats that Republican states can pick up because not just of the VRA issue, but of just the fact that we haven't necessarily gerrymandered as much as they have.
00:06:28.800I mean, that's just an objective fact.
00:06:30.420I mean, studies have shown that to be the case.
00:06:32.700You look at obviously New England, you look at California, even before, Steve.
00:06:37.020So I think it's important to really back up and look, OK, 2020, 2022, we were on the show.
00:06:42.000We were hammering states who were redistricting through the normal process.
00:06:44.720And one of the real ways the Democrats obviously rigged this thing in some of these blue states is they've got these phony commissions, Steve, and we used to talk about that.
00:08:35.660You've got grassroots moving hard on this.
00:08:38.100I know people are feeling pressure. That's what people are talking about in DC on our side, that some of these guys, you look at Kay Ivey, she looks like she's flipped. We need South Carolina. I just was reading and talking to folks preparing for the show that I think the House leader, let me get this guy's name so we can name him, House Majority Leader Davey Hiatt. I could be pronouncing that wrong. I've never heard of this guy, but apparently he's come out and said, no, we're not going to do it this time. We can't do it.
00:09:00.600So we have to name names. You've got to move hard on these people, you know, peacefully, educate them, make sure to call and apply pressure at the county committee level, at the local level.
00:09:09.460And really, we need to make clear that we're not going to stand for any half measures at this moment when you look at what the stakes are in this election, Steve.
00:09:18.460Exactly. Let's talk about Louisiana as a perfect example. And I was kind of shocked.
00:09:23.080I guess they were more ready than most. Some like Georgia seem like they're not ready at all.
00:09:26.840And I want to give a head tip to Governor DeSantis. And I think they beat, I believe, Mark Elias lost in court last night.
00:09:35.100He's going to throw lawsuits everywhere. Let's talk about Louisiana. What's what's our status there?
00:09:42.280Yeah, so they've sued since the election was ongoing and it's gone in front of the Supreme Court.
00:09:46.500And that's what I'm talking about in terms of we need, obviously, for the Supreme Court to clear the deck so this thing can move forward.
00:09:51.900We think the case is on great, you know, sound footing and there's nothing to worry about there.
00:09:56.640But, you know, everything that we do, they'll respond with lawsuits.
00:09:59.820Just like you mentioned, Florida, you know, they tried to sue in the Northern District.
00:10:03.160They got defeated by the attorney general in Florida.
00:10:06.680And so now it's up to the attorney general in Louisiana to obviously defend this suit.
00:10:09.920And we're hoping the Supreme Court moves quickly so that this stuff can progress.
00:10:13.220But in the short term, obviously, the House elections, not the Senate election.
00:10:17.000This is really important for those watching because you've got the Cassidy election.
00:10:20.920President Trump's endorsed Julia Letlow, who we're all behind.
00:10:24.640And, you know, that election is still ongoing on May 16th.
00:10:27.040And the House elections have been moved.
00:10:28.580So that's really important so people understand.
00:13:07.660This is why Ossoff could win. Remember, Ossoff is coming up for re-election. Ossoff is, I think, four or five points up because the Kemp forces are suppressing MAGA in Georgia. And this is what you get. He just said last night, I don't know, we'll deal with it sometime in 27, correct? I mean, he's already just told us to follow.
00:13:26.640He said hard stop. No, not for this election. But we're going to look at it, obviously, for 30.
00:13:34.320That's, you know, 20. President Trump, you called you called Bill Lee last night.
00:13:38.900I'd get I'd get the hotline going to Kemp right now. Talk to me about South Carolina.
00:13:44.000That's a huge one. What's McMaster's doing? He's Trump's guy.
00:13:48.060Yeah. So McMaster, they're calling a session. I think their issues now are in the state legislature.
00:13:53.440later I mentioned that name house majority leader Davey he had I could be announcing that wrong I
00:13:58.960never heard of this guy he has said the state will not redistrict he's gone out on a limb which is
00:14:02.800crazy I've heard McMaster's moving obviously Caroline runs all over it James Blair the White
00:14:07.780house I mean this is a full frontal as well with the posse trying to see what we can move there
00:14:11.920but that's big obviously you know you've got the sixth district there Clyburn which you know you
00:14:16.780can easily draw it very cleanly I've looked at the map so you know there's that and obviously
00:14:21.040we mentioned you've got blackburn president spoke you've got the memphis-based tennessee
00:14:27.520nine district which is the sole democrat and so you know the primary is in august obviously so
00:14:35.120there's a pathway because you've got time there uh legally so um hang on one second i know you
00:14:40.480gotta i know you get a bouncer it's gonna hold you through a short break and just keep you for
00:14:44.880a minute or two on the other side i want to sum this up for working instructions for the war room
00:14:49.360The posse has been at the tip of the spear on this.
00:14:52.620It's redistricting wars on a Friday morning.
00:21:12.100And the reason we're doing this, there's been a call for a general strike today in the United States of America from the Mondami forces and from these folks that we were trying to turf out of Minneapolis, these lovely people.0.90
00:21:24.720And it's interesting, the Morning Joes and all these Democrats are trying to hide that aspect of their party,0.77
00:21:30.180which is really about 80 percent of their foot soldiers have no mention of this today.0.69
00:21:36.080When you're in high school, all the formation you get is about hating America, hating American patriotism,
00:21:42.880teaching you Howard Zinn, how people have been oppressed for thousands and thousands of years.
00:21:49.200I want to make sure, Jack, that people understand this.
00:21:51.660When you talk about the Bolsheviks and you talk about the Marxists, in every one of these societies, they start with a very small group of people.
00:21:59.700I don't think the Bolsheviks ever had more than like 15 to 20 percent max support, particularly I think even in the Duma when they're here in elections.
00:22:08.980They never really had broad popular support.
00:22:11.780what their strategy was if they force the action people were first off the aristocracy were created
00:22:19.480because the aristocracy back then was the equivalent of the rhinos today that they will
00:22:23.640they will collapse they will not be able to stand up to us and then everybody else will collapse
00:22:28.460around that uh and so that's why they celebrate this day is because this is one of their you know
00:22:33.560i know they got the october uh date that they do when they kicked off the revolution but this is
00:22:38.980they're kind of international, how they spread it. You don't need a majority to start. In fact,
00:22:43.340you need a very small, hardened minority, sir. Well, Steve, that's exactly right. And even before
00:22:48.900the Russian Bolsheviks were doing this, you saw this in Chicago in the 1800s, 1880s with the Hay
00:22:55.020Market Affair, which turned into a bombing. They were killing police officers. They had the unions
00:23:00.660out in the streets back then. This was during the rise of the Industrial Revolution, and they were
00:23:05.820using that as a way to foment the masses but steve there's actually a um i'll tell you there's
00:23:12.520actually a video i did that you know it was when we were promoting uh the release of unhumans the
00:23:18.800anti-communism book and it was an interview with me and charlie kirk and charlie asked me that very
00:23:23.920question he said jack what was the size of the russian revolution or the russian empire what
00:23:29.080was the size of russian empire i said well it's russia charlie it's like 100 million people at
00:23:33.720giant empire and they said what was the size of the bolsheviks and i said well at one point it
00:23:38.920was probably probably about a thousand people you know not that many he said right how could such a
00:23:44.400large country be taken over by so few of a hardened group of people and i said charlie
00:23:51.640they didn't take it seriously they didn't exactly take it seriously the violence the brutality the
00:23:59.460complete stripping of all morality the slaughter that they were willing to commit in the streets
00:24:08.280to politicians to leaders to types of folks that might go to the white house correspondence center
00:24:15.160by the way that they were willing to throw all the rules out the window in their lust for power0.55
00:24:23.000raw naked power and the russians they didn't fight back until it was way too late0.61
00:24:29.120You talk about language. Dr. Thayer, you see this all the time on MSNBC. Democracy, democracy, democracy. The Bolsheviks used to talk about democracy a lot, particularly at the beginning. They are the proverbial wolves in sheep's clothing, are they not?0.97
00:24:46.100Yeah, of course, Steve. It's how they mask themselves. They can't win popular support, so they have to cloak their odious ideas in terminology that would be familiar and would be attractive to folks.
00:25:04.080look, these guys are experts at political warfare. They're geniuses at it. And Lenin in particular
00:25:11.100was a genius, right? And one person who was responsible for this is Vladimir Lenin.
00:25:19.360And the tactics that we see today with the school strikes or teachers calling in sick or taking
00:25:26.020personal days or the worker strikes are all, can all be traced back to tactics that they devise
00:25:34.740and implemented. Again, they were experts at political warfare, so they recognized the
00:25:41.900importance of the ideas industry, right? The educational system, universities, K through 12,
00:25:48.500media, the law schools, all of it needed to be seized, the commanding heights of the ideas
00:25:56.240industry so that they could bring about their revolution. And Jack's exactly right. These are
00:26:01.600very small numbers of individuals, but they're focused, they're driven, they know what they want,
00:26:08.500and they're bringing it about through the three tools that Lenin recognized and explicitly
00:26:16.260advanced, which was agitation, propaganda, and organization, right? A supreme organization
00:26:22.580always twinned with terror and violence, right? So those are the tools that the Leninists
00:26:30.940are using, whether we call them Bolsheviks, of course, or neo-Bolshevik progressives today.
00:26:37.720Those are the mechanisms they're using to advance their revolution. And the war isn't over yet,
00:26:44.760right we've had very important battles that we've won 1989 1991 of course uh perhaps most
00:26:52.040significantly but we haven't won the war against these guys yet uh and they're making great progress0.97
00:26:58.600both abroad with the ccp the chinese communist party but at home where they operate through0.85
00:27:06.120a neo you know a common term which is privatized it's george soros it's steve jobs widow it's0.87
00:27:13.640Singham and his wife, Jody Evans, Code Pink, working through the hundreds of front organizations
00:27:21.800that they have to advance their revolution and to extinguish, of course, the spirit of 1776 and
00:27:31.440our freedoms in the United States and to kill Western civilization. In our 250th year of our
00:39:35.140and because of the way that they continually roll it out to these young people,
00:39:40.960particularly young people who may seem a little rootless, sir.
00:39:44.940Well, and Steve, you know, we've got over at Human Events,
00:39:48.060we've actually put, I haven't published this yet, but we've got an archive
00:39:51.600and I've set it up so that it can be searchable of thousands upon thousands of his tweets,
00:39:57.300his social media posts, and you can see it was 2024 where he became hyper-radicalized.
00:40:03.040He seems to have been aligned with some of these NAFO groups where, you know, very tight with the pro-Ukraine elements online and full on believer in the Russia conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian agent working for Vladimir Putin also became anti Israel was anti the Iran war.
00:40:25.400But at the same time, Steve, it's ultimately just the same type of rhetoric that you see on Blue Sky that you would see on MSNBC every single night.
00:40:47.720He's taking the logical conclusion of this type of rhetoric from the left.
00:40:53.700And again, this isn't the extreme left. This isn't the fringe left. This is mainstream. When the New York Times is putting up guys talking about, oh, the Maggioni's actions against Brian Thompson were justified because he was guilty of social murder.
00:41:08.540Steve, it's it's so it's so key for people to understand this. The New York Times is platforming this type of ideology. So this isn't fringe. This is in the New York Times. And they're telling you you're committing self-defense and defense of others when you go and go look at the arsenal.
00:41:26.100this guy had at the white house correspondence dinner at the washington hilton the hinckley
00:41:29.440hilton right daggers throwing knives uh i believe it was a 1911 pistol and he had the mossberg 88
00:41:37.800uh pistol grip shotgun and he ran in there fired at least one round off and was running straight
00:41:43.880through waited for them to put down the magnetometers and then was running through the
00:41:47.580dog tried to tried to warn him they didn't listen to the dog and he was running through and he got
00:41:51.240very, very, very close to the president of the United States, the vice president, the, you know,
00:41:56.540so many members of the cabinet, et cetera. And he wanted to do this. Oh, a hundred percent. Jack,
00:42:02.840where do people go if they want to pick up on humans or watch a show or particularly you're
00:42:07.520the Associated Press of MAGA, your Twitter feed, where they go? Oh, of course, up at Jack Posobiec,
00:42:14.380Steve, and then the podcast human events daily, get that on Apple, get that on Spotify. We're
00:42:21.100all over social media. The book, Unhumans, New York Times bestseller. You can go and get that
00:42:25.500on Amazon. You can get that unhumansbook.com. We have a couple of special editions. And there's
00:42:30.960a great foreword that was written in there by one Stephen K. Bannon that I highly recommend.
00:42:36.080Thank you. One of my great, I love this book. What's the clip? You gave our production team
00:42:41.240the clip we're going to see on the way out. What are we going to see in here?
00:42:44.180i believe this is the fifth the victory parade um now it's youtube so you have to you know caveat
00:42:50.820that it's credited as the victory parade in the soviet union may of 1957 and i believe this is
00:43:01.300one of the ones red square that chairman mao actually participated in remember the only
00:43:06.680country that mao would ever travel to was of course his patrons up in moscow and he didn't
00:43:12.680light travel on there he was ordered to. Jack Posobiec, thank you so much. We'll go out with
00:43:16.240that. Dr. Bradley Thayer, fighting the 100-year war, 100-year-plus war against Marxism. Next to the war.
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00:47:50.020Absolutely. So the Bolsheviks wanted to spread their revolution. They came to power in 1917.0.70
00:47:56.460They recognized they had a problem, that they needed to spread this thing. So they created an
00:48:00.980organization called the Communist International, also called the Third International. And the
00:48:06.920intent of that was to spread the Bolshevik revolution globally, everywhere. Where communist0.51
00:48:15.180parties didn't exist, like in China, for example, they would create one. They created the Chinese0.97
00:48:21.340Communist Party in 1921. They created, in 1919, really two American communist parties, which they
00:48:29.580merged into one, the Communist Party of the United States by 1921, formerly by 1927.
00:48:37.660So they generated communist parties, but they also recognized they needed to create and fund
00:48:44.540front organization using what they called united front tactics, which is to recognize you probably
00:48:52.440weren't going to take over countries through a coup d'etat like the Bolsheviks did on November 7th,
00:48:57.7601917. But what you need to do was penetrate and unhinge societies. So you needed to find out0.93
00:49:06.800what kept a society together. That would be religion. That would be the family. That would
00:49:12.460be patriotism. That would be American identity, for example. You needed to target that and
00:49:19.760gradually at first eliminate it, erase it, right? What the NSS, National Security Strategy,
00:49:26.960called civilizational erasure. Well, that's just the realization of the tactics that Lenin,0.77
00:49:33.480the common turn started, to focus on what united the West, what made it great,
00:49:40.500in order to destroy it. And once it was destroyed, they'd be able to seize power,
00:49:47.620again, not through a coup, not through a coup d'etat, but by gradually having it come their
00:49:53.180way, all of it dropping to their hands. And again, they were supremely successful at doing so,
00:50:01.460making communist parties, making front organizations. That's now has been taken
00:50:07.600up by these billionaires, these woke billionaires, Soros, Singham, Jody Evans, Jobs' widow,
00:50:14.880her Emerson collective. Again, huge source of this. So they have these woke billionaires by
00:50:22.240the score who are advancing these ideas and to whom the ideas seem very attractive to folks who
00:50:30.940don't know. They don't know, sadly, because we failed to sustain American identity and to call
00:50:38.440this out. This was the entire really idea of Charlie Kirk and what Charlie Kirk did at Turning
00:50:45.920Point, particularly starting other scholars campuses. And if you see what Charlie would
00:50:49.820always say if you disagree with me we're gonna get you the front of the line and if you see what
00:50:54.120these kids would spout to Charlie it was neo-Marxism they had been they had been trained
00:51:00.100they had been brought up about this they didn't really understand the American experience they
00:51:04.340didn't understand the basic foundations of the republic and western civilization it was pretty
00:51:09.960shocking but that's why the reason Charlie I think was so effective he was so patient you just heard
00:51:16.880this drivel coming from these people that they all came out of the modern American education system
00:51:21.980and there are no homeschooled kids at the front of the lines for Charlie Kirk because he's always
00:51:27.620put the dissonance at the front and Charlie would sit there you know year after year and
00:51:33.000university after university and here that's just what he was up against and what Charlie said is
00:51:38.540we'll talk this out and here's the amazing thing is Charlie in his own way right his own kind of
00:51:44.500very knowledgeable but accessible way changed so many of those people. That's why there was such
00:51:50.280open grief for Charlie, particularly among young people in the college campuses. He was an apostle
00:51:56.240for the Christian West in understanding the values of it and how it's manifested in the
00:52:05.240American Republic as counter to everything that the neo-Marxists stand for. This is why the
00:52:10.980Bolsheviks. And Dr. Thayer says it's a hundred year war. Anyway, Dr. Thayer, hang on. You're0.84
00:52:15.400going to stick around because I'm going to get, I got Navarra from the White House. And then Eric
00:52:19.500Boling is going to join us. Thayer is going to stick around. We're going to talk also what's
00:52:23.380gone down in the war on May Day in 2026. You see it in your neighborhoods. If you see it in your
00:52:31.320towns and cities or covered on your news tonight, remember this has a long tradition and it's a
00:52:36.600dangerous tradition goes all the way back to the french revolution right the very two different
00:52:43.260revolutions the american and the french with two pretty different outcomes
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