Bannon's War Room - Episode 5341： Bringing American Manufacturing Back On Shore

00:00:00.000 Memo to the Fed. Mortgage rates remain too high because of the stupidity and partisanship of a Federal Reserve chairman who needs to get the hell out of Washington, D.C. when the clock strikes midnight on May 15th. 0.99

00:00:16.620 We cannot be reminded too many times that Powell's Fed committed three major blunders that have cost America jobs, growth, and tax revenues. 0.93

00:00:27.240 Those blunders, raising rates too early and too fast in Trump term one, raising rates too late and too slow as the Biden hyperinflation began to take hold.

00:00:39.480 And now lowering rates far too slowly, even as the data screams to do otherwise.

00:00:46.040 As the Bard might say of Powell's mid-spring nightmare, get thee gone.

00:00:51.440 doctor it's a friday 1 may year of our lord 2026 dr peter navarro joins us uh that was dr navarro

00:01:02.660 his uh those uh amazing videos he puts up so i want to start i'll start here because we played

00:01:09.480 your video to open it up and then i'm gonna get into some of the economic numbers particularly

00:01:14.140 in the manufacturing side we had the great john gardner on last night for about 30 minutes and

00:01:19.380 walk through this in detail this kind of manufacturing renaissance you're starting to see

00:01:23.220 the green shoots of because of our tariff policies the big beautiful bill the the incentives coming

00:01:29.580 from a supply side tax cut and deregulation all three of those converging uh to um to have really

00:01:36.480 i think the beginning of amazing results but since you're there and by the way eric bowling's with us

00:01:42.120 And Dr. Theo is going to stick around. We're going to talk straight or her moves, Persian Gulf oil, the economy and and guess basically the alternatives President Trump came out with yesterday in discussing where we go forward on the Iran war.

00:01:59.720 But let's go back. Since Navarro went there, let's go there. Dr. Peter Navarro, Powell has responded to, I guess, I don't know if pressure or whatever it was with Gene Pirro or what he thinks is an affront to him by basically telling the administration, hey, look, I'm going to step down as as the head of the Federal Reserve.

00:02:23.880 and Warsh is going to come in here,

00:02:25.920 but I'm going to stay as a governor

00:02:28.220 and I can cause a lot of trouble there

00:02:30.720 because, first off, Mirren's got to go back.

00:02:32.720 The chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors

00:02:35.280 has to go back to the EOB,

00:02:38.160 and I've got a lot of people here that support me.

00:02:41.480 And you may think you're going to have

00:02:43.540 an quote-unquote independent fed with Warsh,

00:02:46.660 but I've got something to say about that.

00:02:49.220 And, Dr. Navarro, you can huff and you can puff

00:02:52.420 and you can try to blow his house down,

00:02:55.160 but too late Powell is dug in

00:02:58.640 and he's got his trenching tool

00:03:00.200 and he's digging deeper, isn't he, sir?

00:03:04.320 Steve, you have to go back to 1948

00:03:07.040 for a Fed chair to stay on the board.

00:03:11.680 And in that case, it wasn't controversial.

00:03:14.620 The guy was actually competent. 1.00

00:03:18.020 Powell is arrogant, prissy, 1.00

00:03:22.420 unqualified, petty, vengeful. Pick your word. He does not belong on the Fed. And here's what 1.00

00:03:31.480 pisses me off and why I did that video, Steve. Anybody in the media, anybody in the legacy media

00:03:40.120 who defends Powell on the basis of him being competent does not understand the enormous

00:03:49.620 damage Jerome Powell has done to America. The case, the case against Powell's competence

00:03:57.300 is unequivocal, Steve. Even the Federal Reserve itself has published studies that show

00:04:05.480 in Trump's first term, Powell raised rates prematurely and choked off significant growth.

00:04:14.180 Yep. Yep. In Biden's term, unequivocally, he unleashed the worst hyperinflation since 1970s that we're still grappling with. That's on his plate, sir.

00:04:28.500 And right now, since Donald Trump has gotten in office and we're approaching two years now, Powell has kept rates too high, not lowered enough, again, causing tremendous, tremendous damage.

00:04:46.720 It's slower growth. It's lower real wages. It's higher debt. It's higher interest rates because of that debt, not just because he won't lower them.

00:04:57.300 And that SOB needs, as I said, quoting the bar, get the gone for the country.

00:05:04.180 Now, one other thing, Steve, he wants to be the shadow fed chair.

00:05:09.080 That's what he's going to be the shadow fed chair.

00:05:12.660 Not that he wants to be.

00:05:13.820 He's going to be the shadow fed chair, sir.

00:05:16.180 Is he not?

00:05:17.380 This is one of the most egregious throwdowns I've ever seen in American financial or economic history.

00:05:25.920 and, folks, it's going to have a direct impact on you.

00:05:27.880 Let me just go back to the history.

00:05:30.280 And I don't want to, you know, but I will say when this thing first came up

00:05:35.920 in the first term, it was Dr. Navarro and Stephen K. Bannon

00:05:39.960 and some other folks who are saying, hey, maybe Kevin Warsh

00:05:43.260 or John Taylor are your pick.

00:05:45.880 And, of course, then-Secretary Treasury Mnuchin, no, it had to be Powell.

00:05:50.000 It had to be Powell.

00:05:51.500 So we've seen this disaster, and that's why Powell's not leaving.

00:05:55.300 He thinks he's got a point to prove to counter exactly what you said now.

00:05:59.220 And all the things are most egregious because even what he did in Trump's first term, because the policies were correct, he could not slow down the Trump economic train as it as it as it really started revving up in the fall of 2019 when everything came together. 0.80

00:06:16.660 The only thing that chop-blocked us was the Chinese Communist Party's bioweapon coming out of the Wuhan lab, as referred to as the pandemic. 0.61

00:06:25.420 But the most egregious thing he did was was the cutting of rates for Joe Biden in the Biden regime in 2024 to try to juice to try to juice the market so that so that Biden could point to better economic a better economic indicators. 0.82

00:06:46.600 correct, Dr. Navarro? That's destabilized the entire global economy and financial system

00:06:53.860 by what Jerome Powell did. And again, I ask every SOB in the legacy media who somehow thinks that

00:07:01.960 Powell's going to be some bastion of Fed independence and has done a competent job, 0.91

00:07:08.400 look at the frigging record. Any journalist who says that that guy is competent to serve 0.54

00:07:14.920 is not competent to be a journalist covering financial matters, full stop.

00:07:21.440 And that guy is going to try to command a bunch of liberal Fed people, pro-Biden people.

00:07:29.920 Steve, the irony here is that the complaint is that Donald Trump is trying to take away the Fed

00:07:36.740 independence when it was Powell that prostrated himself on his knees to get reappointed,

00:07:42.040 that basically gave that away to begin.

00:07:44.360 But where's where's that? Where's the where's the media outcry from the financial media?

00:07:48.800 Where's the Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times of London and Bloomberg?

00:07:52.880 Because all they talk about is the independence of the Fed, independence of the Fed and Trump.

00:07:57.480 Warsh is as independent as you're ever going to get.

00:08:00.220 But he can't be independent because a Fed chair who should ride off into the sunset is going to remain and he's going to remain.

00:08:06.700 And his arrogant response to the day, I will remain as long as I think it's necessary.

00:08:11.780 Right. He's clearly going to try to challenge Kevin Walsh's independence at the Federal Reserve.

00:08:19.220 Is he not, sir? We have never, Steve, in the entire history of our republic, had a Federal Reserve that is embarking on a road of partisanship, partisanship and conflict in ways which will derail proper Fed policy full stop.

00:08:38.240 and that's on Jerome Powell.

00:08:41.760 And he, get the gone, Jay, get out of here.

00:08:47.940 The joke was, like, when I was watching him,

00:08:51.240 by the way, let's make note, Mnuchin's folly.

00:08:55.100 You know why Mnuchin, Steve, wanted Jay Powell?

00:08:59.240 It's the biggest irony.

00:09:00.640 Mnuchin thought he could control him.

00:09:03.540 And as soon as Powell got in there,

00:09:05.220 he stuck the knife in Donald J. Trump.

00:09:08.240 And this is just wrong.

00:09:11.900 And I would appeal to the Wall Street Journal, to Bloomberg, to the Financial Times, to the

00:09:19.720 folks on the New York Times, the Washington Post, who believe somehow that they're qualified

00:09:27.920 financial reporters.

00:09:28.900 Look at the frigging record and tell him he needs to leave because, not for any political

00:09:35.980 reasons, but simply because he is not competent to serve, period. This is a big crisis, Steve. 0.94

00:09:45.080 We don't need this now. It's the last thing we need on top of everything else.

00:09:49.880 It's a very big crisis, particularly as we now have this turnaround that's pretty evident.

00:09:54.960 Let's go to that, Dr. Navarro. I want to talk about this chart that came out yesterday. Can

00:09:59.800 Can we put that up about these are imports of capital goods, right?

00:10:04.800 Imports of capital goods.

00:10:06.460 And this is a good indicator that we're bringing capital goods in to make to basically expand our manufacturing base.

00:10:14.700 Can you walk our people through it?

00:10:17.080 See, this is a good example of how the mainstream media invariably gets these these daily reports on the economy wrong.

00:10:26.320 I'm doing columns now for Real Clear Markets.

00:10:30.100 I thank them for publishing these things, and I go over each report as it comes out.

00:10:34.440 Now, in this case, it's 2% GDP growth, which looks a little belower than what was expected

00:10:42.320 and that what we want.

00:10:44.200 But the math here, Steve, is that we had a surge in imports, which normally are bad,

00:10:51.720 and that detracts from GDP growth.

00:10:54.720 With me so far. 0.94

00:10:56.060 Now, those imports were not like consumer good crap from around the world. They were capital goods and machine tools and circuit boards and chips and things that we are putting in place in America's latest wave of factories to produce things here, to increase our productivity and our wages.

00:11:20.600 And it's all happening. Every single dollar of that capital goods coming in is a product of Trump's economic policies, starting with the tariffs. We are bringing our manufacturing back on shore.

00:11:38.020 And so you're going to see over time, you're going to see over time these imports come in, our factories spring up, and we're already seeing another, you know, another geek thing for you, the ISM manufacturing index.

00:11:51.780 It was below 50, so a zero to 100 index, for much of Biden's latter part of his term.

00:12:00.140 And it didn't really get above 50 until some months in to the Trump term.

00:12:07.900 And now it's robust and continues to move up.

00:12:11.520 That's a wonderful sign that we are in a manufacturing renaissance right here, right now, Steve.

00:12:19.360 So you've got to have the sophistication to look behind the headline numbers and understand how Trumpnomics, the tax cuts, the deregulation.

00:12:31.780 Full stop. Full stop. Full stop.

00:12:34.400 Because I know you have to play footsie with these guys all the time.

00:12:37.340 The Financial Times of London and the Wall Street Journal should be pretty sophisticated, right?

00:12:42.400 Our audience is very sophisticated because of the great years of training that you gave them and Dave Bratt gave them.

00:12:49.360 and Dave Walsh gave them, and Scott Besson gave them, and Russ Vogt gave them.

00:12:54.200 You know, we would go out of our way to do macroeconomics and all of this

00:12:58.080 so people could learn, and they've learned a lot.

00:13:00.340 But that's why when I read the business press or when I watch CNBC or even Fox Business,

00:13:06.420 I get nothing but happy talk.

00:13:08.060 And, you know, Trump's terrible. 1.00

00:13:10.140 Navarro's a nutcase. 0.99

00:13:11.700 Tariffs are the worst thing in the world. 0.83

00:13:13.480 They misinterpret every piece of data that's there that's quite self-evident.

00:13:17.540 So when are we going to start banging some heads in the, you know, we bang enough heads in the political media.

00:13:22.840 When are we going to start banging some heads in the business media, sir?

00:13:26.720 Well, you answer your own question, Steve.

00:13:28.960 The ideology of the financial press is globalism.

00:13:35.680 And therefore, they cannot craft any message, i.e. the news, in ways which would support tariff protection to protect Americans and American factories from unfair trade.

00:13:54.060 And that would onshore not just our production, but our labor by shutting our borders.

00:14:02.260 I mean, it's ideology, and you see it every day.

00:14:06.640 I do think the worst one right now is Bloomberg. 0.99

00:14:10.400 I mean, they blatantly wear that crap on their sleeve and their coverage. 0.99

00:14:14.300 I mean, hands down. 0.99

00:14:16.620 But it's endemic, and look, it's no secret, Steve.

00:14:21.240 Memo to Bannon, post to the media, is not going to give Donald Trump a fair break.

00:14:26.380 But the problem is when it's the economy, that's a very dangerous thing.

00:14:31.940 And I get back to, like, the Powell problem.

00:14:35.000 We're just not getting the news.

00:14:37.540 And that's why your show is so valuable.

00:14:39.460 I mean, you do a lot of the politics and the election stuff and how to mobilize and things like that.

00:14:46.140 But nobody does it better on the macro economy than you as well.

00:14:52.720 Hang on one second.

00:14:53.760 We just got a cold for a commercial break.

00:14:55.460 Just hang on.

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00:16:35.120 Here's your host,

00:16:36.520 Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:39.560 So a lot's

00:16:40.400 going on about the conflict

00:16:42.460 in Iran. I'm going to get to that in a second.

00:16:44.600 Dr. Thayer stuck around. Eric

00:16:46.440 Bowling is here to give us an update on

00:16:48.340 what's happening in

00:16:50.220 Hormuz, Persian Gulf, oil markets throughout the

00:16:52.320 world. However, Eric,

00:16:54.380 you are a trader.

00:16:55.020 Are Bannon and Navarro, are we just whining about this Powell situation, which is quite unique?

00:17:06.440 Or do you sense the same problem that we sense, sir?

00:17:11.440 I'll tell you, if you guys are on it, I'll add to it a little bit.

00:17:14.880 You both hit on it.

00:17:16.380 Jerome Powell was way late to the inflation game.

00:17:19.700 He should have been raising interest rates throughout the Biden term.

00:17:22.640 He didn't.

00:17:23.480 He's playing politics.

00:17:24.520 If he was really concerned about growth, and honestly, monetary policy as it applies to growth is the only thing a chairman should do.

00:17:32.060 So he has to use the gas in the pedal with interest rates.

00:17:34.640 If inflation gets too high, use the brakes, raise interest rates.

00:17:38.020 If it's nice and low and demand starts to seep or slow down, press the gas, lower interest rates.

00:17:43.960 He played politics throughout four years of Biden, especially in what you pointed out at the very end.

00:17:50.420 the month of October before the November election was the first time he lowered interest rates.

00:17:57.220 He should have been raising them and lowering them as things got better. What he did was

00:18:00.700 he started the economic turnaround. Powell started in the last month or month and a half

00:18:07.680 of Biden's terms, which gives him that honor of being the most political Fed chairman probably

00:18:13.460 in history, certainly in my lifetime. I think Warsh, it's going to be very important to Warsh

00:18:18.220 come out the box. Look, Fed decisions are made almost unanimously every single time. In fact,

00:18:24.840 the decision that they just made the day before yesterday was an 8-4 split, which is highly

00:18:32.400 unlikely, right? It's usually Fed chairman delivers a unanimous vote. And so Warsh has to

00:18:39.180 step in here and just leg sweep Jerome Powell immediately, clip his wings, you're no longer

00:18:44.200 chairman sir but you'll be one vote you want to be dissenting vote that's fine stand out also had

00:18:49.700 the supreme court yeah and he pal look he's a third tier investment banker not an economist

00:18:57.180 not someone like um a scott bessen or war somebody that knows capital markets deeply

00:19:03.520 right either a trader or knows capital markets this guy was a third term a third tier investment

00:19:09.540 banker and a lawyer. He had the worst call in at least my lifetime of a Federal Reserve.

00:19:19.100 It's almost as bad as some of the calls they were making Greenspan was making up to the 2008

00:19:23.700 financial crash. When he called inflation, when the inflation started burning, he said it was

00:19:30.140 transitory. Remember, he wasn't going to make moves against, he said, transitory inflation.

00:19:34.680 That is the worst call, at least since Greenspan didn't recognize what was the lead up to the 2008 financial crisis.

00:19:43.300 This is why this guy should not be around.

00:19:46.060 This is why this guy should be out of here.

00:19:48.020 And now he's going to fight a rearguard action every day against Walsh and President Trump.

00:19:55.160 So all the business press, Bloomberg, The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times of London, all of them, New York Times, Business Section, Barron's.

00:20:02.960 You know, I don't want to hear you whining anymore about Trump. Right. Trump trying to have a non independent. Kevin Warsh is an independent guy. He's a guy that I really pushed back, you know, what, eight years ago for for Fed chair at the time.

00:20:19.200 He or either the backup, the cover bid would be John Taylor out of Stanford.

00:20:24.800 And, of course, Mnuchin and these guys all wanted Powell.

00:20:27.900 They all had to have Powell.

00:20:29.900 But correct me if I'm wrong.

00:20:31.560 His whole idea that he put in this mindset of transitory inflation was just dead 1,000% wrong, sir.

00:20:41.460 The only question I might make is, well, maybe it was him.

00:20:45.460 Janet Yellen was also talking transitory inflation, inflation being transitory throughout the time she spent up at the top levels as well.

00:20:53.820 So it was a talking point that they probably delivered as a political talking point, maybe in conjunction with the White House, which is what they're not supposed to be doing.

00:21:03.780 They're supposed to be an independent body.

00:21:06.880 It was horrible that they didn't get in front of inflation.

00:21:10.980 And this whole idea that Powell is saying that he was in the Trump term, where inflation is a third or less of what it was during Biden, him saying, well, we may have to raise when Trump is saying let's lower because to get in front.

00:21:24.740 Well, where were you four years ago, five years ago, Powell, when inflation was on its way up?

00:21:29.080 You get in front of the rise of inflation with interest rates, not behind it, but somehow you wanted to get in front of it with Trump.

00:21:35.100 It was clearly political, Steve.

00:21:38.000 No, and this is one of the reasons I tell people, this whole affordability thing that Democrats are trying to use to hammer President Trump, it's all their creation, and that's not coming down easily.

00:21:48.180 Once it's in structurally, it's going to take you a while to unwind it.

00:21:52.520 Anyway, let's play this cold open we've got on the war in economics, and we've got Eric Bolling with us and Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:22:00.260 Let's go ahead and let it rip.

00:22:00.900 This is according to Iran's state media. This is their response, which was expected today.

00:22:07.920 Now, we should know President Trump rejected a previous offer from the Iranians today marks 60 days since the conflict began. 0.90

00:22:16.280 Now, that 60 days is important because it would appear to trigger the War Powers Act, a Vietnam War era law that requires Congress to sign off on U.S. military action that lasts beyond 60 days.

00:22:25.520 But according to Defense Secretary Pete Hexith, there is a loophole.

00:22:29.260 He told Congress that the April 7th ceasefire paused the clock on the 60-day countdown.

00:22:35.480 Now, many Democrats and some Republicans don't quite buy that.

00:22:38.800 There's also brand new reporting this morning.

00:22:40.600 According to a CNN analysis, at least 16 U.S. military sites have been damaged by Iranian strikes.

00:22:46.620 A majority of U.S. positions in the Middle East, that would make up a majority of positions in the Middle East.

00:22:51.740 Some, we are told, are virtually unusable now.

00:22:53.880 What are you hearing about this latest response from the Iranians?

00:23:00.580 Yeah, it's really dropped in the last hour very, very, very, very recently. 0.95

00:23:05.900 It does seem to be something that is making the Pakistani mediators sort of breathe a slight sigh of relief.

00:23:13.600 Of course, they've been expecting Iran to respond by Wednesday.

00:23:17.520 And if not by Wednesday, then by Thursday.

00:23:19.640 And if not by Thursday, then really the sense here was that this was the day. 0.51

00:23:23.440 If Iran didn't respond by now, then things were going to slip potentially out of control pretty quickly. 0.63

00:23:29.460 So the Iranians have put something on the table.

00:23:31.720 We don't know what's inside of it, of course, at the moment.

00:23:35.080 It is very clear, having had conversations in the past few hours with Iranian officials,

00:23:41.800 that they don't trust President Trump, that they do have an idea of how they could get back into talks.

00:23:47.880 And part of that was indicated to us that it would be a simultaneous lifting of the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.

00:23:55.460 They said, who's going to guarantee for us if we take that step that the United States doesn't just then move the U.S. Navy into the Strait of Hormuz and take control of it?

00:24:05.100 So there is this real, real deep distrust.

00:24:09.080 I think there's also this sense here that potentially things have been pretty close.

00:24:14.580 And it's not clear if Iran has bridged the final gaps, or are they playing for time?

00:24:20.040 Are they going to try to spin out more rounds of talks?

00:24:22.920 We know very clearly, as undoubtedly Kevin was laying out as well, that President Trump has said some of this could be done on the phone,

00:24:31.240 that he wouldn't send people here to talk if they were just 18 hours to get here,

00:24:36.740 if they were just going to arrive and find something on the table they already knew wasn't acceptable.

00:24:41.600 So I think if we get an indication that a U.S. talks team were coming here, that would indicate that there's space to move forward.

00:24:50.820 Eric, we have a saying here in the world, price is truth.

00:24:56.700 Talk to us about what the markets are telling us about the Iranians' position right now on this Strait of Hormuz and the blockade. 0.97

00:25:06.440 So much to get through, Steve. I'll blow through it real quickly. 0.51

00:25:09.520 First of all, gasoline is now $4.39 a gallon.

00:25:12.640 That's up from $3.19 a year ago.

00:25:14.940 That's not very good news.

00:25:16.560 And for context, you know, we were crushing Biden about Bidenomics.

00:25:19.940 I'm going to give you the negative stuff first.

00:25:22.140 We were crushing Biden about Bidenomics, but the average price of a gallon of gasoline,

00:25:26.060 four years, all four years of that miserable term, was only $3.58.

00:25:30.240 We're going to be pushing $4.50 within maybe a week or so, maybe $5 by the end of the summer.

00:25:36.480 That's going to be a real, real drag on certainly the economy, possibly even the election.

00:25:42.040 But we'll go for Chevron and Exxon reported earnings this morning.

00:25:45.640 Both CEOs were out there blasting it out on CNBC, talking about how much profit they were making.

00:25:51.100 Meanwhile, I'm watching that going, you guys are tone deaf.

00:25:53.280 Yeah, you're making profit because you're an oil producer and higher prices benefit you.

00:25:58.100 I didn't see any refiners on there talking about they need the oil to put into their refinery to make gasoline.

00:26:03.560 Those prices are going up.

00:26:04.740 No one seems to want to talk about that side of the barrel equation, so to speak.

00:26:09.160 The good news is, here's the very, very good news.

00:26:11.400 Yesterday, we talked about it.

00:26:12.580 Demand came out.

00:26:13.940 GDP grew, or it's stable at 2%.

00:26:17.360 And that's relevant because 2.5% is a target, but 2% in the midst of a 60-day conflict that's choking off oil means that in the United States, the dog is still wagging the tail.

00:26:28.660 We saw China the day before report that their economy was slowing, likely due to the higher oil prices, which means now the tail is starting to wag the dog, where the high price of oil is really starting to hurt the Chinese economy because we're self-sufficient in oil.

00:26:44.500 Remember, we use 20 million, we produce 13, and for some odd reason, we're shipping 14 million barrels a day out, but that's another story.

00:26:53.980 So the good news is, versus China, we're doing really, really well. 0.93

00:26:58.660 I will give you one more thing.

00:27:00.020 If you can pull up the camera or the guys,

00:27:02.320 if you can pull up that first chart I sent to you, Steve, last night.

00:27:05.520 I got it refreshed from my friends who are traders

00:27:07.920 at some of the top oil trading desks, real people.

00:27:11.000 Upper left-hand corner of that chart, if you can see it,

00:27:13.260 the number three there, that's the number of vessels

00:27:15.380 that have transited the Strait of Hormuz in the last 24 hours.

00:27:18.720 The number is three, Steve.

00:27:20.520 The actual number should be 130, 140.

00:27:24.400 Three vessels have transited in the last 24 hours.

00:27:26.860 And if you look at the lower left-hand corner of that chart, you see the number 350.

00:27:32.660 It's a shipping rate.

00:27:34.480 It's 350 versus what normally should be 45 or 50.

00:27:38.380 So the shipping rates in this region, not just through the strait, in the region, have gone up sevenfold.

00:27:45.560 One final thought, jet fuel is becoming a global issue for not just Europe anymore, now the United States as well.

00:27:52.380 We're starting to drain some of our jet fuel.

00:27:56.060 Oh, I'll give you one last one.

00:27:57.660 I read this this morning.

00:27:59.100 In California, the biggest, most populous state,

00:28:03.760 used to have 46 refineries.

00:28:06.940 They have three now.

00:28:08.400 They're down to three because of policy.

00:28:11.940 Unbelievable.

00:28:12.820 Eric, you're back up at 4 o'clock.

00:28:15.340 We'll do a transition today.

00:28:16.620 Yeah.

00:28:17.040 Hey, show them the pictures real quick.

00:28:18.320 Show them the pictures real quick.

00:28:19.420 I had this.

00:28:20.180 I got to show it.

00:28:20.780 Here's Steve Bannon as a young Navy man.

00:28:23.060 All right, one more real quick.

00:28:24.120 Give the other one.

00:28:24.580 Steve Bannon next to who? 1.00

00:28:26.000 Andy Gibb, oh, my God, Steve, you are a lady killer as a man. 0.99

00:28:29.460 Happy Friday. 0.99

00:28:30.380 Stop.

00:28:31.480 Thank you, sir.

00:28:32.400 See you.

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00:29:59.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:30:02.820 So what did Bowling throw up there?

00:30:04.680 Can I see that?

00:30:05.840 I got a little surprise.

00:30:06.700 Did you get the photos?

00:30:09.240 Can we see that?

00:30:10.380 Okay, got it right there.

00:30:11.720 And then the other one.

00:30:12.480 Okay, that's college.

00:30:14.500 I think that's my senior year of college, junior, senior year.

00:30:16.780 And then that's right after college.

00:30:18.500 The Navy cleaned me up, let's say that.

00:30:20.200 back to what uh my mother felt she had turned me over to college as coming out of military school

00:30:27.760 but anyway eric bowen caught me by surprise there college and then right after college

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00:30:49.660 I think the BRICS nations took this personally.

00:30:52.380 Our dollar, your problem, about particularly during the Biden years,

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00:30:59.800 You know that in your own life.

00:31:01.520 And this is why the BRICS nations bound together and say,

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00:31:06.100 This is this huge fight geopolitically about the dollar being the prime reserve currency.

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00:31:14.920 We will continue to have a national debate.

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00:31:38.080 Maybe a lot of it's ephemeral.

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00:32:20.920 Also, this thing about people come to me and say,

00:32:23.320 President Trump's getting rid of the income tax.

00:32:25.140 President Trump's doing this.

00:32:26.020 You see it online all the time.

00:32:29.840 And Cameron Kinsey from the first term is now over at Tax Network USA.

00:32:34.020 Understand, particularly if he didn't file, there's two things.

00:32:37.560 These two kind of rumors bounce around.

00:32:38.960 Number one, they're under such pressure because of cuts to the government

00:32:42.740 that they don't have enough agents or enough IRS auditors,

00:32:48.320 that they're not going to be doing audits, not going to be checking.

00:32:51.440 Number two is that President Trump's getting rid of the income tax.

00:32:54.460 It's aspirational.

00:32:55.700 President Trump's saying, hey, if tariffs work, right,

00:32:58.780 and other fees that we can charge, maybe foreign entities,

00:33:03.620 one day maybe we can eliminate the income tax.

00:33:10.280 That's his goal and objective.

00:33:12.740 You know, Peter Navarro just said last segment, the entire history of the Republic with the

00:33:18.580 Federal Reserve, well thank God it was only created in the early 20th century along with

00:33:24.200 the income tax because if the Federal Reserve had been from the very early days of the Republic,

00:33:28.920 we would never have had the explosion in economic growth using the American system of Alexander

00:33:35.700 Hamilton in the 19th century.

00:33:40.800 That's why Andrew Jackson, the first great populace, fought the Bank of the United States,

00:33:46.180 which was a first cut of a Federal Reserve, of course, owned by private individuals in

00:33:52.260 New York City, and basically shut down by Andrew Jackson, his great fight.

00:33:58.560 But the IRS is not going away, and quite frankly, with the deficits we got, particularly, you

00:34:03.360 saw Pete getting lit up yesterday with the $1.5 trillion in the defense budget, the current

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00:35:13.260 it. Dr. Bradley Thayer, the president, and you can tell he's, and I've said this before,

00:35:25.260 President Trump has read a lot of naval history.

00:35:28.400 He's a very big believer in Mahan.

00:35:31.760 Victory at Sea is one of his favorite documentaries in Sammy Elliott Morrison's book.

00:35:37.180 It's one of his favorite books on naval warfare.

00:35:39.920 His entire hemispheric defense is Mahanian, right, as we now make the Central Pacific

00:35:47.180 the strategic pivot of the United States of America and not the heartland of the Eurasian landmass,

00:35:52.720 which totally changes kind of world geopolitics that's been around, or at least that fight of

00:35:59.160 it's been around for thousands of years. Your thoughts, as Admiral Cooper at CENTCOM briefed

00:36:05.600 him yesterday, when the range of alternatives, where do you think we are, sir?

00:36:11.840 Well, Steve, Admiral, according to the Axios report, right, Cooper was briefing him on

00:36:17.520 two major pillars, and that would be a Hormuz option, which might include ground forces,

00:36:25.060 and then special operators really working on to seize fissile material, the enriched uranium.

00:36:34.620 I think President Trump has got three points of leverage here. First, the blockade is working

00:36:39.300 extremely well, and that's a very potent weapon to use against the Iranians. Secondly, he's got 1.00

00:36:47.460 the threat of escalation. And that includes the following elements. First, we've learned a lot

00:36:54.100 about where the Iranians are storing things given this hiatus, this break in targeting. So there

00:37:01.540 are going to be a lot of more, there are going to be military targets that will be very usefully

00:37:08.240 struck, as well as perhaps broadening that to the economic, civilian and economic targets,

00:37:14.560 which, of course, Iran does not want us to target.

00:37:20.540 And then the third component there, besides the blockade and essentially returning to military force, would be China. 0.63

00:37:30.240 The pain that he's putting on communist China gives us a leverage as well.

00:37:34.420 So those things are working, I think, very effectively in President Trump's favor against the Iranian regime. 0.54

00:37:44.560 That said, of course, Iran has every incentive to drag this out as long as possible. 0.54

00:37:50.880 So of those three elements, one that we haven't talked much about, communist China, is really going to come to the fore as we move into the mid-May meeting and pressure that Xi Jinping is going to face based on his economy, as Eric was saying.

00:38:09.820 doctor here's what i don't like about the framing so far i didn't have time to send you this morning

00:38:15.720 but i get up this morning you go through all the european papers no news sites in asian

00:38:19.640 and um then finally the american financial times and the american papers they're clearly framing

00:38:26.020 this at least as of today is that it's not so much the iran war and how this has to be focused

00:38:33.540 but they're they're the the ccp is saying this has got to be this is going to be about taiwan 0.82

00:38:37.960 I mean, it's pretty I was pretty shocked about the how their information warfare has framed this, that from Beijing's perspective, they're going to have a very detailed talk about Taiwan. 0.89

00:38:51.320 And that is going to be complicated.

00:38:55.020 Taiwan just put up numbers yesterday, folks, if you didn't see it, their economic growth is through the roof because of advanced chip design.

00:39:01.380 I mean, the risk that they took years ago is paying off big league that they essentially make all the advanced chips that drives the world's economy and particularly the American economy.

00:39:12.480 Your thoughts on that? I mean, did you see the same thing of how they're doing this?

00:39:15.880 They're going to have a direct discussion about Taiwan and they want that, no doubt about it. 0.86

00:39:20.500 And President Trump can tell them to go to hell with respect to that. Right. 0.94

00:39:24.280 It's they can bring up Taiwan if they choose, but we don't have to engage on that.

00:39:28.880 We can shoot that down. So no doubt that Taiwan is going to come up in the mid-May meeting, trade, a lot of the South China Sea, East China Sea aggression that the CCP has launched against our allies and partners in the region.

00:39:49.500 Of course, the communist Chinese can bring that up, but we're not going to abide on that. I hope 0.89

00:39:56.600 the Trump administration very much does not play the CCP's game in trying to establish any type

00:40:03.260 of linkage in that regard. If they want to bring up Taiwan, we can bring up the Uyghurs. We can 0.65

00:40:09.000 bring up the genocide in Xinjiang, crushing of the Tibetan people. There are many other issues,

00:40:14.800 the human rights record in general that we can bring up and the illegitimacy of the Chinese

00:40:22.220 communist government. So if they want to go down that road, we can respond 0.56

00:40:27.180 very quickly, I think, and very effectively. My concern is there's an awful lot of business

00:40:35.920 community. Remember this whole thing on AI, and we're going to talk to you about even more

00:40:43.220 focused endeavors we're going to have on these data centers, right, which are a plague in this

00:40:48.880 country. The phony, the oligarchs talk out of both sides of their mouth. They all, you know, 0.96

00:40:57.080 we have to be AI, we have to be China, we have to be China. At the same time, those oligarchs

00:41:01.480 are totally in business with the Chinese Communist Party and don't want any confrontation

00:41:07.700 with the Chinese Communist Party. We got about a minute and a half, Dr. Thayer. With that being

00:41:12.580 reality, you know, there's a lot of people in President Trump's ear that he should reach some

00:41:17.500 sort of rapprochement about Taiwan with the CCP. Your thoughts? Well, it's clear, as we just

00:41:25.160 discussed, that communist China is aggressing. They have Taiwan in their sights, and they're 0.69

00:41:30.020 moving every, they've taken for many, many years, steps to prepare the battlefield in Taiwan. 0.99

00:41:37.180 A way that we can shoot that down very effectively would be to cut off the chips. 0.57

00:41:43.680 So it's important for everyone to recognize in the United States at any level to recognize that they're gunning for Taiwan. 0.96

00:41:52.080 Aggression is certain in that regard, and we need to respond now. 0.85

00:41:56.420 Chips are a very effective way of doing that, as tariffs are.

00:42:01.240 You just had Peter on, right?

00:42:02.780 And so he can work his magic in that regard.

00:42:06.340 And in fact, President Trump has said anybody helping Iran is vulnerable to very significant

00:42:11.120 tariffs. Investment, we're still, money is still flowing from New York to communist China. That

00:42:20.580 needs to be cut off. The Trump administration has taken some measures in that regard, but that

00:42:25.460 really needs to be ended. And then the students as well, the students, Chinese students that we

00:42:33.800 have in the United States, 350,000 of them. That number has to be brought down as well. So we have

00:42:41.020 a lot of leverage with respect to Iran, but we also have an enormous amount of leverage with

00:42:47.320 respect to the communist China and leading up to the May meeting. But Xi is going to press us hard

00:42:56.400 uh as they always do and we need to have our house in order clearly yeah um where do people

00:43:04.580 get you books going to come out later this summer where do people get you for your writings

00:43:08.580 well first steve i just say eric i'll open a pandora's box with those photos so i hope you've

00:43:14.820 um uh you as a young man obviously in the navy and uh no no no no uh so i i hate if cameron had

00:43:24.000 that distribute it more broadly.

00:43:26.480 But Brad Thayer,

00:43:27.300 get her in truth.

00:43:30.200 Dr. Thayer, thank you so much.

00:43:32.040 And on May Day,

00:43:34.240 to talk to people

00:43:35.760 about the reality is,

00:43:36.780 particularly in our education system,

00:43:38.460 you're going to see it today.

00:43:39.320 Check your local news out.

00:43:41.020 They'll make a big deal

00:43:41.900 about these shutdowns 0.83

00:43:43.220 at these high schools

00:43:44.040 and led by these really,

00:43:46.040 you know, these amazing teachers,

00:43:47.900 the ones with the pink and purple hair.

00:43:50.200 Short break.

00:43:50.840 Back in a moment.

00:43:54.000 Everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle East is raising oil prices,

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00:44:13.840 And with spring planting season on top of us,

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00:45:23.300 War Room.

00:45:24.300 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:45:28.160 So we're already packed for this afternoon and tomorrow morning,

00:45:31.620 and that doesn't include everything that's going to happen in the interim.

00:45:33.680 So we're going to juggle here in the War Room

00:45:36.780 and make sure that you get all the information and analysis you need.

00:45:41.880 I will just give you a heads up for the War Impossed

00:45:43.940 because you've been driving this for a couple of years.

00:45:45.480 And remember, for those of you who have been with the show for a while, in 22, we would have never taken back the House unless it was for your efforts on the redistricting war of 22.

00:46:00.900 11 seats changed hands in redistricting.

00:46:04.660 The Democrats picked up three, and we picked up eight.

00:46:07.980 And particularly in Florida, we raised holy hell and really made the legislature there.

00:46:15.480 that had no interest in doing it, I think it was four seats at the time,

00:46:21.240 which was really incredible.

00:46:22.760 But we would have never taken back the House without that.

00:46:25.800 We're not going to hold the House without this.

00:46:27.920 Let me just be blunt.

00:46:30.340 That's why this fight's so important.

00:46:32.840 And we'll have more specifics today about who to light up.

00:46:35.920 Because you can see those people that are MAGA

00:46:37.960 and those people that will put their shoulder to the wall.

00:46:42.300 What's so outrageous and I find so offensive is the South has been oppressed by this since

00:46:50.160 the 1960s or 70s.

00:46:52.340 It was clearly unconstitutional.

00:46:55.260 Finally, people in Louisiana had the gumption to fight all the way through.

00:47:01.600 The Supreme Court, six to three, this was not close.

00:47:04.760 This was not close.

00:47:05.820 And Alito buried him.

00:47:07.700 And Kagan's response was, as we said today, 30 pages of whining.

00:47:12.300 where 30 of our 60, I think, were just whining.

00:47:16.020 And you see it on TV last night.

00:47:17.880 But to know that people in the South

00:47:19.500 were not ready to hit it right away,

00:47:21.080 it's unconstitutional.

00:47:22.320 It has to be rectified right away.

00:47:23.720 And for those that are getting on with it, good on you.

00:47:28.240 And for those of you like Kemp and these people in Georgia,

00:47:30.540 it's just once again, their hatred of Trump,

00:47:33.280 their hatred of Trump,

00:47:34.780 because they think they don't get these seats flipped.

00:47:36.480 He's got a chance of getting impeached.

00:47:37.820 And that's what Kemp and these guys want.

00:47:39.180 That's what the establishment wants.

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00:48:38.740 Remember, it's not the price, although the price has run up quite a bit.

00:48:42.520 It's the pattern recognition, what drives value,

00:48:46.700 particularly as we go forward here with the BRICS nations

00:48:50.100 and so much turmoil, particularly in the Middle East,

00:48:53.760 among the big oil providers.

00:48:55.460 You heard yesterday the first quarter with Santelli and Peter

00:48:58.960 and we had Gardner on last night.

00:49:00.360 You got the green sprouts of a manufacturing renaissance in this country.

00:49:04.120 However, that's all run on energy, and we'll have to see how this thing plays out.

00:49:09.500 President Trump weighing his alternatives, and we're going to talk a lot about that this afternoon.

00:49:13.980 Also, an update on the redistricting wars, of which I'm proud to say that this show has been at the tip of the tip of the spear now,

00:49:23.620 going on our fourth year of doing this.

00:49:26.180 Big win in 22.

00:49:27.360 We took the House.

00:49:28.300 And here, I kept telling people, don't get blackpilled.

00:49:30.380 this is uh you can have a net pickup of what we're talking about 23 seats 23 seats from texas

00:49:37.020 and you folks have been there they fought the good fight every step of the way mike lindell

00:49:42.100 uh brother you're going all in on governor you're making everybody proud you're you're taking the

00:49:48.280 fight to mike lindell what what's the first uh issue you're going to deal with after you take

00:49:54.420 your hand off the holy bible after being sworn in as the governor of minnesota what's the first

00:49:58.980 thing you're going to deal with we've got a ban sharia law the uh islam coming into minnesota when

00:50:05.460 it we were the trojan horse for it i said it five years ago back then they called me racist but now 0.69

00:50:11.380 with all the fraud and it's opened people's eyes that's the number one thing when i get first day

00:50:16.580 ban sharia rob bring back the minnesota flag and we have one other thing remember governor waltz

00:50:21.860 put a satanic statue in our capital in knock saint paul and then he got an award for it so

00:50:28.260 So that's somewhere in the capital.

00:50:29.900 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:50:32.140 How can this—this is what I'm saying about these Marxists.

00:50:34.640 Today's May Day.

00:50:35.860 They're going to have all the high schools up.

00:50:37.020 Minneapolis is going to be terrible because they're all Marxists up there in the public education system.

00:50:42.320 This is what they do.

00:50:43.440 They applaud and want a satanic statue in the actual people's house in Minnesota.

00:50:54.500 This is what turns them on, correct? 0.67

00:50:56.520 Because they can mock Christianity. 0.97

00:50:58.260 Yeah, absolutely. You've got the governor, what our governor, what he said back then, he goes, well, we've got to be fair. I'm going, be fair to the devil? I go, you know, it's beyond comprehension. Then you've got Keith Ellison, our attorney general, attacking my Christian platform, LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org. He's been all in on the attack. He doesn't want people getting off addiction and finding Jesus.

00:51:24.800 And this has been going on, and this is a bigger battle than people realize.

00:51:30.260 It's a spiritual battle of biblical proportions we're in.

00:51:33.960 That's why these midterms coming up are the most important midterms in history.

00:51:41.560 Sir, we've got about a minute and a half left.

00:51:44.560 Folks want to know how we're doing on our deal.

00:51:47.340 Yeah, this is the last day, everybody.

00:51:48.860 I told you yesterday, this is it.

00:51:50.980 Let's get that last truck empty.

00:51:53.180 We've got all these products left on there that when we moved factories, we're closing out for good.

00:51:59.820 So the MySlippers, they're $29.98 a pair.

00:52:06.100 Once they're gone, they're gone, and they're 80% off.

00:52:10.120 They come with a patented impact gel, but we've got bath mats.

00:52:14.020 If you go to MyPillow.com forward slash warm room, we've got blankets.

00:52:19.580 We've got kitchen towels we're closing out.

00:52:21.760 as low as $9.98 for like a six-pack set of towels.

00:52:27.380 And we've got over 60 products.

00:52:29.800 But remember, today's the last day.

00:52:31.840 Free shipping on your entire order.

00:52:34.320 Today's the day to take advantage of that with your mattresses,

00:52:38.400 your mattress toppers that go on right on top of any bed

00:52:42.060 to turn it into the best rejuvenation station ever.

00:52:45.380 You guys, this is it.

00:52:46.820 It's empty, that last truck today.

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00:52:53.720 brother thank you so much

00:52:56.760 we'll see you back here in the 5 o'clock hour

00:52:58.320 let's everybody get on that deal

00:53:00.000 this is the last day of it

00:53:01.520 Mike Lindell is giving you the call

00:53:04.180 the Charlie Kirk show is next

00:53:05.760 with Andrew Colvett

00:53:07.220 you've got Poso after that

00:53:10.100 Steve Gruber

00:53:11.440 Unreal America's voice

00:53:13.480 Eric Bolling and I'll do a transition today

00:53:15.980 into the 5 o'clock show

00:53:18.000 back here in the war room. See you at 5.

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Bannon's War Room - May 01, 2026

Episode 5341： Bringing American Manufacturing Back On Shore

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