Bannon's War Room - Episode 5345： Redistricting Battle Heads to Tennessee

00:00:00.000 is that there's a lot of things that we can be doing, like voter ID.

00:00:04.340 Like every time you walk into a restaurant or a club, you have to show your ID.

00:00:08.640 How about you have to show your ID to vote?

00:00:10.460 That's not anything that's crazy, and that's what we should be talking about.

00:00:14.160 Certainly one of the votes on Capitol Hill right now.

00:00:16.200 Put that map up, because I think you know where I'm going with this,

00:00:20.500 because you are a student of history.

00:00:22.460 The two states that are missing from this map are Arkansas and Texas.

00:00:26.500 What we are looking at and Virginia, what we are looking at is basically a map of the old Confederacy.

00:00:35.080 And so this tug of war that you're talking about goes back to the Civil War.

00:00:42.320 Please put into historical context for folks so that they truly understand.

00:00:48.520 And I'm always pointing out that true democracy in this country is only 61 years old.

00:00:56.880 If you go back to the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act and why that was necessary.

00:01:04.260 Absolutely. Thank you, Jonathan.

00:01:05.720 So let's start with what the Civil War decided.

00:01:09.400 So post-Civil War, we have three amendments that we talk about.

00:01:12.220 The 13th Amendment that ended slavery for most people, unless you're in prison.

00:01:17.780 You have the 14th Amendment that guaranteed birthright citizenship for now. 0.70

00:01:23.140 And then you have the 15th Amendment that said that the right to vote for everyone except for black women, or actually at the time, black women and white women. 0.61

00:01:32.420 And then when you get to the Voting Rights Act, finally we add women into it, black women into it.

00:01:38.120 But the 15th Amendment said that you could not deny the right to vote based on race.

00:01:43.900 And so what we saw was that it was working.

00:01:47.500 We saw the sudden flourishing of black men in Congress, black men as governors. 0.93

00:01:53.540 We saw a sea change and it was so effective that Andrew Johnson rescinded all of this. 0.87

00:01:58.980 And that's when we had what we know as the end of Reconstruction.

00:02:03.400 Then you fast forward. The 19th Amendment gave white women the right to vote. 1.00

00:02:07.920 And then you get to 1965. And that is when the Voting Rights Act, for the first time,

00:02:13.480 said that black people were full citizens of this country because they could vote.

00:02:18.800 And it started to work.

00:02:20.220 And then in 1975, there was an expansion of the Voting Rights Act that said that

00:02:24.980 using racial issues and language issues to exclude Native Americans, Asian Americans,

00:02:30.780 that that was also unlawful.

00:02:32.620 And so while black people have always been the centrifuge of fighting for democracy,

00:02:37.640 this is something that implicates everyone.

00:02:39.880 The work that we do at the 10 Steps campaign is about making sure that we see the whole map, that we understand all of the pieces that make our democracy work.

00:02:48.900 But to your point, that map that you show is no longer just black and white.

00:02:53.220 It is black and white and brown, but more than half of black Americans live in the states that we're looking at. 0.85

00:02:59.500 And so what we have to understand is that if they are capable of stripping power from that population, Democrats can't win again.

00:03:08.180 Progressives can't win again.

00:03:10.300 Democracy cannot win again unless the entire nation comes together to, for the second time,

00:03:18.060 fight for black and brown folks in the South.

00:03:20.620 Not just about a single Instagram post.

00:03:22.600 This is about a body of evidence that the grand jury collected over the series of about 11 months.

00:03:27.780 If the only facts that existed was the posting of the Instagram,

00:03:31.820 obviously that wouldn't have taken 11 months.

00:03:34.120 Of course, the seashells are part of that case.

00:03:36.880 I mean, that's that's what the public sees. But without a doubt, and it should be evident by the fact that it's been 11 months since the posting and the indictment, there is an investigation that takes place.

00:03:47.820 And that's the result. The result of that investigation is the indictment that was returned last week.

00:03:52.500 Republicans are looking to eliminate the state's only majority black congressional district and the last seat held by a Democrat.

00:03:58.440 The ink had barely dried on the Supreme Court's takedown of the last remaining major pillar of the Voting Rights Act.

00:04:04.200 when Donald Trump called on Tennessee's Republican governor, Bill Lee, to redraw the state's

00:04:08.820 congressional districts so that Republicans can pick up another seat in this year's midterms.

00:04:13.040 The court's Wednesday ruling means that Tennessee is no longer required to prioritize

00:04:17.580 minority representation in the drawing of congressional districts, which gives

00:04:23.580 Republicans the green light to slice up Memphis, bottom left corner of your screen, the center

00:04:29.800 of the state's only black majority district into pieces that are designed to deliver it to

00:04:35.300 Republicans in the fall. The governor, Bill Lee, called the legislature back to draw the new maps

00:04:40.820 on Tuesday. The filing deadline for the state's August 6th primaries has already passed. John,

00:04:46.220 count me as highly skeptical that DOJ has some piece of evidence that's a true game changer here

00:04:52.400 above and beyond the post itself. Now, if this case charged some sort of sprawling ongoing

00:04:58.080 conspiracy, some multi-defendant scheme that went on over weeks or months, then sure, there could

00:05:03.860 be evidence that hasn't yet come out at this early phase, but will come out soon. But if you look at

00:05:08.780 the indictment, if you look at the statute that DOJ has chosen to charge here, if you look at the

00:05:13.560 wording of the indictment, it's quite clear that Jim Comey's Instagram post with the seashells,

00:05:18.980 that is the case, and the case is that post. So I'm skeptical there is going to be a few-week

00:05:26.300 period before the defense actually sees the discovery here. But it's hard to imagine a piece

00:05:31.560 of evidence that would materially change the meaning of that phrase as Jim Comey posted.

00:05:35.900 Is this shift toward doing these things if it's to please an audience of one or to please Donald

00:05:40.640 Trump? Like what's the effect on the legal system when you sort of change the standard by which you

00:05:44.740 choose to indict people? Yeah, I think this is a real affront to the rule of law. The idea behind

00:05:50.840 that policy in DOJ's principles of federal prosecution to refrain from filing charges unless

00:05:57.260 you believe you can prove the case at trial and sustain that conviction on appeal is to avoid

00:06:02.600 putting people through the wringer. You know, it's not enough to believe in your heart that

00:06:07.100 they're guilty. You have to also believe that you can prove that case at trial. If instead the

00:06:12.740 standard is, let's just throw it at the wall and see what we can get. That is a very dangerous place

00:06:18.480 to be. And I also think that one of the things we've seen now with the Southern Poverty Law

00:06:23.640 Center case, with this case, some of the other cases that we saw against, for example, the

00:06:29.880 members of Congress who made that video in which they simply stated the accurate statement of the

00:06:34.860 law that service members are entitled to refuse an unlawful order, is we're just going to try to

00:06:40.800 file charges against you, and maybe we can even win by losing. Remember when Ed Martin got the

00:06:46.440 job of leading the weaponization task force. He's now moved off that and he's just the pardon

00:06:50.460 attorney now. But he said, we are going to name and shame people. And in a society where shame

00:06:55.920 is meaningful, this will be a way of holding people accountable, even if we do not have

00:07:00.520 evidence sufficient to convict them. That is something that Joyce and I, when we went through

00:07:05.620 all of the training and years of experience that we got at the Justice Department, we're told

00:07:09.320 was absolutely an abuse of the power of the Justice Department to be able to do that. And

00:07:15.180 I think the thought is, we'll file the charges, we'll please the president. And then even if we

00:07:21.040 lose, we can show the base that we were out there trying and fighting for them. And we can even

00:07:26.580 blame some woke judge as the reason we were unable to be successful. But we're on the right

00:07:32.560 side. And that is an abuse of DOJ's power. This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:07:41.540 Pray for our enemies

00:07:43.920 Because we're going medieval on these people

00:07:46.620 Here's one time I got a free shot

00:07:49.120 All these networks lying

00:07:50.500 About the people

00:07:52.120 The people have had a belly full of it

00:07:53.740 I know you don't like hearing that

00:07:55.300 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that

00:07:57.280 But you're not going to stop it

00:07:58.160 It's going to happen

00:07:59.300 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:08:02.920 Mega media

00:08:03.840 I wish in my soul

00:08:05.880 I wish that any of these people had a conscience

00:08:08.980 Ask yourself

00:08:10.460 What is my task and what is my purpose?

00:08:13.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:08:19.860 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:08:28.180 It's Monday, 4 May, in the year of our Lord, 2026.

00:08:32.380 Welcome. We kick off the week here.

00:08:34.860 Sean Spicer and Caroline Renegar are going to join us momentarily

00:08:37.920 about the business in front of us in the next 48 to 72 hours.

00:08:43.020 That's these redistrictings that have to happen.

00:08:45.960 I want to give an update.

00:08:47.140 You know, Jim Hoft has been quite ill

00:08:49.620 and has been getting ready for surgery, heart surgery, in St. Louis.

00:08:55.720 His brother Joe was on the show on Saturday

00:09:00.940 and then was going to head up to St. Louis to be with his brother

00:09:03.420 as there's some, you know, complication about what hospital they're going to do it in

00:09:07.540 and other things. Joe had a stroke on Saturday, and it's affected his right side. We're staying

00:09:16.020 up to date on Joe. We need prayers for both Jim Hoft and Joe. Also, the great Rudy Giuliani,

00:09:24.440 the greatest mayor in the history of New York City, the America's mayor, yesterday was admitted

00:09:31.320 or was admitted to a hospital and in critical but stable condition now.

00:09:37.920 And so we'll keep you up to date on Rudy.

00:09:39.960 But prayers for the Hoff twins and Rudy Giuliani, giants of the MAGA movement,

00:09:45.960 and particularly on the media side, just absolutely from Gateway Pundit

00:09:49.620 and then Rudy's show on the Mike Lindell Network and his podcast and all that.

00:09:54.500 And, of course, Rudy's magnificent efforts supporting President Trump

00:09:58.880 when President Trump came on the stage in 14 and 15 to actually throw his hat into the ring to

00:10:06.280 to run for office of the great Rudy Giuliani. Prayers for all three of those giants of our

00:10:11.260 movement. Sean Spicer and Caroline Wren joined us this morning. Sean, let's start with you.

00:10:17.700 Give us an update because this looked very different on the first day the Supreme Court

00:10:23.340 came back it seemed like the Republican establishment uh was leaning on their rakes 0.98

00:10:29.540 and Caroline Wren you know did what Caroline Wren does which is start lighting people up 1.00

00:10:34.940 I think we're in a very different place very different place the most hated woman by the

00:10:40.640 establishment Caroline Wren um where are we this morning sir all right let me give you a quick

00:10:47.700 rundown of the states.

00:10:49.760 George, I'll start.

00:10:50.780 I'll work from horrible to good.

00:10:53.380 Georgia, they should be redistricting.

00:10:55.380 Governor Brian Kemp saying, no way,

00:10:57.100 I'm not going to move forward.

00:10:58.040 So that's not going to happen this cycle.

00:11:00.860 South Carolina, we have Governor Henry Kempaster

00:11:03.600 making a push to have South Carolina redistrict. 1.00

00:11:06.420 Remember that one minority district

00:11:08.500 that's held by Jim Clyburn,

00:11:09.700 that would be the district at state.

00:11:11.260 I know the war room posse has been trying 0.89

00:11:12.880 to put a lot of pressure on the state Senate president.

00:11:15.260 Keep it up.

00:11:15.840 That is where we are right now.

00:11:17.160 If we can get that to change, South Carolina has some hope.

00:11:21.100 The governor said yes.

00:11:22.300 The state senate president is not moving forward.

00:11:24.900 We move on to Tennessee.

00:11:26.180 Governor Bill Lee is saying that he is for calling a special session.

00:11:29.840 We should have one on the books.

00:11:31.380 There's a lot of hope.

00:11:32.060 You've got that Memphis district in Tennessee that's a voting rights district that could be redistricted in our favor.

00:11:38.600 So that gives us hope.

00:11:40.300 Mississippi, Governor Tate Reeves says that they will do it, but they've already had the primaries in Mississippi,

00:11:44.960 so we're not going to see any movement there.

00:11:47.480 That's another state that we should see a pickup there.

00:11:50.060 Then Alabama is where the big prize is right now in terms of the states that will be affected.

00:11:55.300 Potentially two seats right now that would give us a 7-0 Republican majority in Alabama, a special session.

00:12:01.980 Frankly, I believe because of the pressure put on Kay Ivey, the governor there was called.

00:12:07.460 They are starting to move, and my sources tell me that they're going to try to have this wrapped up within 48 hours.

00:12:13.100 The fallback position, Steve, is a 6-1 Republican majority, which would be a net one pickup.

00:12:20.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:12:20.760 There's another case that Alabama is currently dealing with in front of the Supreme Court.

00:12:25.860 They're going to pass the map right now, probably end up with a 6-1 map because they feel like

00:12:31.600 that would pass muster with the court, hope to have that second case resolved by August

00:12:36.780 and then run under a new 6-1 map and then go to a 7-0 map next cycle.

00:12:43.100 but kind of make this iterative step forward for Alabama.

00:12:48.540 What about Louisiana?

00:12:51.800 I'm sorry, good point. 0.99

00:12:53.020 Yes, Louisiana will redraw. 0.99

00:12:54.820 They are mandated to redraw. 0.98

00:12:56.400 That would be a plus one.

00:12:58.220 So they technically have two minority districts there,

00:13:01.100 but under the current map, they can still keep one

00:13:03.500 because obviously you can partisan majority.

00:13:06.100 So Louisiana will be a plus one.

00:13:07.760 The governor, Jeff Landry, under orders by the court to get this done.

00:13:11.340 there's no way they they have the possibility of going 7-0 they're going to go 6-1 is there

00:13:17.280 possibility they go 7-0 i think there's a possibility again one of the things that

00:13:21.780 you've got to be careful on the map makers the guys who do this have a lot of tools at their

00:13:25.560 disposal right now is that while you can partisan gerrymander according to the court um you can't

00:13:31.780 race base so they've got to figure out can you actually dilute those districts enough to get a

00:13:36.600 7-0 that won't endanger other seats and put them in play. So the million-dollar question that the

00:13:43.040 map makers have to answer is, do I go 6-1 in Louisiana, ensure that we have six rock-solid

00:13:50.840 Republican districts, or do you risk it and go 7-0 and dilute it to the point where maybe one or two

00:13:56.820 become swing districts that you could potentially lose? That's where they've got to go in and really

00:14:02.220 push down the data and see what's available

00:14:04.480 to them. Sean, hang on

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00:16:48.640 um i i want to thank ren degrasse and sean spicer for being the bomber command of central

00:16:59.180 information for this if we hadn't had this over the weekend or the last four or five days we'd

00:17:05.820 be nowhere sean spicer i'm about to get ren up here's my question sir is this and you know how

00:17:13.660 these guys work is this performative they're trying to take the heat off themselves or are

00:17:19.200 they driving to a maximalist strategy here so we can get victory to be honest that's the million

00:17:26.520 dollar question they felt they felt the heat i mean i i know caroline wren is not getting invited

00:17:31.700 to christmas parties this year uh at some of these places they have felt the heat between the war room

00:17:37.120 posse and her lighting people up uh you know but but this is the question that has to get asked

00:17:42.620 They're feeling it. There's no question. South Carolina is feeling it. Kay Ivey is feeling it in Alabama.

00:17:48.000 The question is, do they do they go through the motions, which is kind of what I think they did with the Save America Act, is to say to the president, oh, see, we tried.

00:17:55.360 If we take our foot off the pedal, that's what's going to end up.

00:17:58.180 The reason we're here today is because so many people called those phone numbers, made it very clear that their voices had to be heard.

00:18:04.140 If we take the foot off the pedal anywhere short of the maximalist outcome, then then that's going to be the travesty.

00:18:10.580 So we got to keep it going. Make sure that people understand that the Democrats wouldn't stop.

00:18:15.260 That's the other thing. Grow up and recognize that these guys broke every law and the Constitution of Virginia to try to get those four seats.

00:18:22.820 We have to play the same way. Stop being such a bunch of wusses and saying, oh, Jim Clyburn is such a nice guy.

00:18:29.940 I get it. Maybe he is a nice guy. I don't know him. 0.96

00:18:32.980 But the bottom line is, why are we saving a seat in South Carolina that could be ours?

00:18:36.980 Why are we saving a seat in Memphis that could be ours?

00:18:39.520 The majority is at stake. Trump 2.0 is at stake. We saw the movie in Trump 2.0 and Trump 1.0.

00:18:46.880 If you don't like, if you think that you like what's happening now, it will turn into investigations and impeachment if we allow the Democrats to take control of the House.

00:18:56.180 They would do it to us, so let's do it to them. Let's make sure we keep our foot on the pedal and get every seat that we are entitled to under the law.

00:19:03.740 Caroline Wren, your thoughts and observations on this, because, you know, let's be blunt.

00:19:11.200 This was unconstitutional, needs to be changed. And this is political warfare, ma'am. Your thoughts?

00:19:18.660 I got into it over this in Georgia with Eric Erickson over the weekend when the governor

00:19:24.440 Kemp announced that they were not going to be doing a special session ahead of the 2026 midterms. 0.74

00:19:29.340 You know, I came out and said, this is this is ridiculous. Why are they, of course,

00:19:32.700 taking a pass on this. They always do. And Eric Erickson said, you know, hey, I'm a Georgia

00:19:37.360 election attorney, and we can't do what Louisiana and Mississippi are doing because we have an

00:19:42.660 active election going on. And I replied and said, you know, what are you talking about? First of

00:19:46.800 all, Louisiana is currently voting, and Mississippi, their primaries already passed. That didn't stop

00:19:52.160 their governors from taking action. And not to mention, you're saying that we can't, you know,

00:19:57.040 redistrict because voting has started. You can't suspend an active election. Let me remind you

00:20:01.840 that Governor Kemp suspended an active election, the primary, in March of 2020 due to COVID.

00:20:07.840 So why is it the Georgia Republican establishment is the absolute worst? When it comes to masking

00:20:13.080 your kids or keeping them out of school, I mean, there is nothing Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger

00:20:17.380 won't do to make sure that happens. But when it comes to protecting the most important thing we

00:20:22.320 have, which is our sacred vote, there's nothing that these guys will do. That is the problem with

00:20:28.040 the Georgia Republican establishment and with Governor Kemp and the way he is looking at this.

00:20:32.460 And so it is very frustrating. And, you know, I think that Sean did a great job of walking

00:20:37.800 through the map. I just had a couple of things. You know, Louisiana, I do think that they need

00:20:41.880 to go for a 6-0 map. As Hakeem Jeffries said, this is maximum warfare and we need to recognize

00:20:48.040 that. And so Louisiana doesn't have to go into special session. They're already in an active

00:20:52.000 session right now. And so I really hope they go for the 6-0 map instead of a 5-1. Look at the

00:20:56.980 just heinous map they drew in virginia look at what they did in california you legally can go

00:21:01.520 for 6-0 you need to go for 6-0 in alabama it is a little bit trickier what they're going to do is

00:21:07.040 they're just going to revert back to its remedial 2024 map for this cycle we pick up one seat we'll

00:21:12.460 get another one the next cycle you know i i hope and wish that they would go for that uh you know

00:21:18.200 a 7-0 map but it is trickier there procedurally then in mississippi the special session starts

00:21:24.320 May 20th. We do not know if they're actually going to redraw the congressional maps for that,

00:21:28.380 or it may just have to do with their Supreme Court. But to Governor Tate Reeves' credit,

00:21:34.160 he's leaving all options on the table. What is tricky there is that their primary has already

00:21:38.700 passed. In Tennessee, the special session actually starts tomorrow, and Marsha Blackburn did a

00:21:44.180 tremendous job pressuring Bill Lee and others on that, so we've got to give Marsha Blackburn some

00:21:48.620 credit there. That special session, they're going to redraw from an 8-1 to a 9-0. We'll pick up a 0.96

00:21:53.620 seat there. South Carolina, you know, the Senate president is just one of the biggest rhinos there 1.00

00:21:59.200 and is trying to block this. I think we're going to hear something in the next 24 hours.

00:22:03.160 Governor McMaster, I know, is trying to find any possible way. There was a lot of procedural

00:22:07.180 hurdles, but the lieutenant governor there, Pamela Evatt, has been tremendous. She's really

00:22:12.000 been taking the charge on this and pushing for it. So I'm hopeful in South Carolina.

00:22:15.560 Yeah. Hey, Steve, the key phrase that Caroline used is won't versus can't, right? There's things

00:22:25.900 that they won't do that they can do. And that's the change in vernacular that we have to support.

00:22:31.180 I mean, she's right about Georgia. You can do it. You just won't do it. And that's where I think a

00:22:35.340 lot of these guys, we've got to start listening to what they're telling us. Because in many cases,

00:22:40.140 they're saying, oh, we can't do it. And that's just not legally true. It's just that they

00:22:44.200 won't do it. And that's how they want to get out of this. Oh, we've never done that before. That's

00:22:49.260 not how it's usually done. It's the excuses over and over again about why something, as opposed to

00:22:55.280 why don't you actually fight? Why don't you do what they do? They didn't care about Virginia's

00:23:00.440 constitution. They didn't care about the law in Virginia. They said, we're getting all four

00:23:03.960 and they did it. And we sit back and have these coffee table discussions about whether or not

00:23:09.480 the precedent suggests whatever go for it fight try to make it happen but understand that we have

00:23:15.360 a legitimately a one seat majority right now that is keeping the trump 2.0 agenda alive and that's

00:23:22.320 all they get it they're willing to do anything to stop this caroline thoughts i totally agree with

00:23:29.920 him and that's why i'm like then go and lose in court but at least go to court challenge this and

00:23:34.680 try. And so the problem with Republican election attorneys, this has been the problem this whole

00:23:39.600 time, is that they always want to find a way to a no, never to a yes. And they're unwilling to

00:23:43.840 challenge things. Whereas people like Mark Elias, I mean, they're just savage. He'll go lose,

00:23:48.080 you know, nine out of 10 court cases. But God forbid one, one challenge that works can stall

00:23:52.740 something just long enough to, you know, hold another seat. Mark Elias is willing to play

00:23:57.200 hardball. And our election attorneys just aren't. And I've gone into this for years with you. It's

00:24:01.780 because Republican election attorneys are too often tied to these large firms like Jones Day

00:24:06.400 and such, where they represent corporate clients. And this is seen as, you know, it's not work that

00:24:10.900 makes them money. It's not some AI company hiring them. And so we have a crisis in the Republican

00:24:15.520 Party of lawyers who are willing to take this stuff on. And that's why the lead on this, we

00:24:20.220 have to give credit, is people like Harmeet Dillon at the DOJ, who did this through the Civil Rights

00:24:24.320 Division. And then you have people like Jeff Landry, who, you know, Jeff Landry was the AG,

00:24:28.880 a brilliant attorney general, one of the only ones in this country who actually fights for us

00:24:32.740 along with Ken Paxton. And when he became governor, he knew how to kind of shepherd this lawsuit

00:24:37.380 through. And it is amazing what we can do when we actually fight in our legal system. But too

00:24:43.440 often we do not. And so Georgia is another perfect example of that. We saw it in 2020,

00:24:47.420 and here we are. It's like Groundhog's Day. We're seeing it again.

00:24:51.160 Caroline, hang on a second. Sean, I know you've got to bounce. I want to talk about the book.

00:24:56.980 I'm very proud of the War Room Posse, once again, because Regnery is an imprint like War Room is over at Skyhorse.

00:25:04.260 The War Room Posse stepped up to the plate, but it was also your special offer of the signed edition.

00:25:10.220 Walk us through what our current understanding of the New York Times bestseller list is.

00:25:15.580 Yeah, first of all, you guys gave me a ton of work this weekend.

00:25:17.980 And thank you, because I made an offer that I said, if you go to Amazon and order Trump 2.0 and send me a screenshot of your purchase to contact at SeanSpicer.com, I will send you a personalized book plate to insert into the book.

00:25:31.120 And you guys have made it a bestseller this week.

00:25:33.280 And every single person said, I just heard you on War Room.

00:25:36.380 Here's what I'd like for my as a gift to my husband, my wife or Mother's Day for our kids or whatever.

00:25:41.200 And I was like, OK, I just my weekend is now spent filling out these book plates and I'm willing to extend it for these guys.

00:25:47.360 But look, as you know, the way the New York Times judges stuff, I mean, I'll speak in horse racing terms since we just had the derby.

00:25:54.340 You can sell the most number of books, but then they look at somebody else who sold less books and say, well, your book was about democracy and woke, you know, DEI culture.

00:26:04.420 So we'll rank it ahead.

00:26:05.680 So we need to speak loud with the number of books and say we sold more.

00:26:10.180 So I think we'll make the bestsellers list because of the War Room Posse this weekend.

00:26:13.700 But now we've got to impress the New York Times and say, you can't ignore this book.

00:26:17.880 You cannot ignore Trump 2.0.

00:26:19.880 President Trump wrote the foreword to the book, and I promised him we'd make it a bestseller.

00:26:24.920 This is also, I want to talk about what is, in people, in this second term, particularly

00:26:32.320 some of the things that happen on policy, it's not perfect.

00:26:34.660 And some of the grassroots and some of the mega movement are saying, hey, look, they're

00:26:37.500 upset about certain things.

00:26:38.580 but the driving that the nature and direction of it versus mayday uh and what you see is the

00:26:45.900 alternative because the alternative is not somebody they're like cooper in north carolina

00:26:50.440 they're propping up as a centrist and a nice guy and he's just got different you know he's not as

00:26:54.940 mean as president trump he's got these nice policies what it is is the marks that you saw

00:26:59.900 on the streets on friday trying to shut down the nation trying to have a general strike is that not

00:27:04.720 That's the framework, right?

00:27:07.480 It is black and white.

00:27:09.500 They've already made it very clear.

00:27:10.700 They will impeach him on day one.

00:27:12.720 They will investigate him on day one.

00:27:14.660 And they will investigate every single person that's been affiliated with President Trump.

00:27:18.600 Whether you're in the White House, you're an online person that's been supporting President Trump.

00:27:23.460 You're just a vocal supporter.

00:27:24.940 This is it.

00:27:26.460 This battle for Trump 2.0 starts this November with this election.

00:27:31.060 We either keep a majority or we're going to have to face up to, you know, what happened in Trump 1.2 with the investigations and the impeachment.

00:27:38.280 But you look at defense, higher education, DEI, trade, NATO.

00:27:42.980 Trump has done so much in Trump 2.0 because of the difference of those four years out of office.

00:27:48.100 They figured out who to bring in, who to keep out, and it's all at stake.

00:27:52.280 So if you want to see everything that's at stake and why, go order Trump 2.0, but make no mistake about it.

00:27:57.200 it's on the ballot and everything that we do in November is the difference

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00:28:04.700 What's your social media. Some people can follow the bomber command today.

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00:29:48.080 okay uh welcome back by the way this on the 15th i'll get more up there sean's a book this is like

00:30:01.500 the kill to order um event at uh the kennedy center uh this is also free we want all the

00:30:09.440 war and posse there you're really gonna it's gonna be a great event and you're gonna enjoy it

00:30:13.380 um big time sean spicer and regnery skyhorse um war room about uh trump 2.0 you guys made it a

00:30:23.600 bestseller so we'll get you more information about that whenever in the air to attend

00:30:27.180 caroline wren uh bomber command what are what are marching orders today particularly things i think

00:30:33.140 people are very upset incredibly upset about georgia and just some of this uh you know and

00:30:40.580 And people like Eric Erickson, always protecting the establishment, always we can't do it.

00:30:45.380 The Erickson's of the world are the reason the country's in the shape it's in.

00:30:48.640 These are the guys that, and Brian Kemp and that entire crowd down in Georgia.

00:30:52.860 This is controlled opposition.

00:30:54.620 They don't want to fight.

00:30:55.500 They always get an excuse of what they got to do.

00:30:57.720 This is how the 2020 election was stolen down there in Georgia.

00:31:01.520 And you see the arrogance of the Democrats that are going to come and indict people and put them in prison.

00:31:06.140 the patriots in Georgia, the fight in Georgia to get to the bottom of the 2020 election is heroic.

00:31:13.780 Those people were indicted. They tried to force them into bankruptcy. If it wasn't for a handful

00:31:17.880 of patriots down there, we'd be nowhere. But this audience over the weekend, with the guidance of

00:31:24.280 DeGrasse and Wren and Spicer, you're moving it dramatically. But we have to make sure that this

00:31:31.600 is not performative because the parlor trick of the establishment is what they did on Save America

00:31:37.320 is pretend they're doing something so they can get the heat off them from President Trump,

00:31:42.600 right? And actually, end of the day, just be controlled opposition. Caroline Wren.

00:31:49.660 Costing us two seats is a tradition of the Georgia establishment. If you remember in 2020,

00:31:55.240 they cost us two Senate seats. There is no reason why Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue shouldn't be

00:31:59.660 senators right now, but that was because of Brad Raffensperger. It's the same actors, and Governor

00:32:05.020 Kemp and others, I could go on and on for that, but they cost us two Senate seats in 2020. Fast

00:32:10.580 forward to today, by taking a pass on redistricting now, they are costing us two layup House seats,

00:32:15.840 and you know what? We already have only a one-seat majority right now, and all this redistricting is

00:32:21.060 happening. Midterms are traditionally not good for the party in charge, and so God forbid if in

00:32:26.040 November, we wake up with a one or two seat minority, it's going to be Georgia's fault.

00:32:30.840 And so I'm very frustrated. I'm not sure what to tell the posse to do about it because Kemp

00:32:36.520 and others do not seem to care whatsoever about their base thinks about them. But I will direct

00:32:41.360 you to what President Trump said this morning. He said, quote, on True Social, we cannot allow

00:32:46.440 there to be an election that is conducted unconstitutionally simply for the, quote,

00:32:50.680 convenience of state legislatures. If they have to vote twice, so be it. We should demand that

00:32:55.840 state legislators do what the Supreme Court says must be done. That is more important than

00:33:01.300 administrative convenience. The byproduct is that the Republicans will receive more than 20 House

00:33:06.380 seats in the upcoming midterms, President Donald J. Trump. That he is absolutely right. And right

00:33:12.280 there, I think he's talking not only to Georgia, but to South Carolina. In South Carolina, we have

00:33:16.620 the will to do this by the governor, by the lieutenant governor, by the Speaker of the House,

00:33:20.720 and it is the Senate President Shane Massey that is single-handedly holding this up right now.

00:33:25.020 he is claiming he ran to a couple of the most liberal papers in the state to say oh we shouldn't

00:33:29.740 do this because it'll actually make some of our districts more competitive for democrats because

00:33:34.620 the democrats in that one district will spread out which to me is an absurd argument to make

00:33:39.540 he is wrong and also if someone's race gets a little bit tighter well then they need to just

00:33:43.720 fight harder and go and win it so you're you're doing it for pure political reasons by making

00:33:48.300 that argument shane and the rest of your state wants this done the president united states wants

00:33:52.400 has done. South Carolina needs to redistrict. And so on my social media feed, you can see we've got

00:33:57.380 his number up there, his office number, his email. And so that is a good productive thing for the

00:34:01.840 posse members we're doing today, is calling the Senate president in South Carolina and telling

00:34:05.640 him that we want them to redistrict. But also from the White House, I mean, Alabama and

00:34:12.040 Tennessee, Bill Lee and Governor Ivy, it shows you when the president gets focused. Today,

00:34:19.660 white house has got to be focused you're going to have it's time that the white house the

00:34:26.080 grassroots is doing it's time the white house confronts a problem we've had from the beginning

00:34:31.540 and that is kemp that is kemp and this georgia of republican establishment the white house has

00:34:37.200 to bring the heat the the posse and the grassroots will bring the heat but we need we need air cover

00:34:44.220 on this and this is where the white house has got to get in kemp's face kemp has been so arrogant

00:34:48.980 that entire Georgia establishment, they draft off the president and they feast off of the MAGA

00:34:55.680 movement that keeps them in office. But anytime it comes to a central critical decision,

00:35:00.600 they always fold. And it's one of the reasons that Georgia is not the powerhouse in the MAGA

00:35:06.500 movement that it should be, ma'am. No, well, Kemp is praying that we get killed in the midterms 0.61

00:35:13.620 and that Trumpism will be dead in 2028 because he wants to run for president.

00:35:18.780 And so him and the Karl Rove wing of this party are banking on Donald Trump leaving office with a horrific approval number

00:35:27.040 and so that the Republican Party can finally move on from Trump.

00:35:30.260 And that's never going to happen. They bet on that in 2020, and now they're betting on that again.

00:35:34.000 And so I think that's where a lot of this is coming from with Kemp.

00:35:36.480 It also has to do with the fact that Donald Trump refused to endorse the Kemp sanctioned candidates for Georgia governor and Senate this cycle.

00:35:45.660 And so, you know, that is the game that Kemp is playing.

00:35:48.180 And it's at the expense of not only Republicans in Georgia, but Republicans across the country.

00:35:53.280 Because you do not see Governor Newsom playing that game or, you know, Governor Spanberger.

00:35:58.400 Those are two people who also want to be president of the United States.

00:36:02.100 And instead, they recognized the moment of their base and then did what was best for their base and for the Democratic Party.

00:36:09.640 And that's actually going to propel them in a 2028 primary.

00:36:13.020 So what Kemp is doing is so backwards.

00:36:14.720 If he actually wants to run for president, if I were Kemp, I would be fighting tooth and nail on this because then that actually is a launch pad for you to run for president.

00:36:22.800 But these guys do not understand that.

00:36:24.640 They do not understand how to fight.

00:36:26.100 They don't understand the MAGA base, and that's why they're consistently going to be, you know, 20 to 30 percent of this movement.

00:36:33.120 And this is why, you know, they want MAGA to go away.

00:36:36.840 They think when Trump leaves or when Trump is impeached this time that MAGA will go away and they can continue to win.

00:36:42.960 You don't have to look for anything more than Kemp's involvement in this Senate race.

00:36:47.600 Ossoff is going to waltz into a victory here.

00:36:50.980 Ossoff, who should be the number one most vulnerable.

00:36:54.620 Right now, it looks like he could win by three points or more.

00:36:57.260 I mean, that's all on Kemp, 100 percent.

00:37:00.360 Caroline, before I live, I hate to personalize this, but in South Carolina and Tennessee,

00:37:06.400 Clyburn in South Carolina and Stephen and Steve Cohen in Memphis, in Tennessee, if you

00:37:12.940 can get those guys out, that is a win, not just picking up a seat or a district.

00:37:17.520 These are two of the leaders of the most radical part of the Democratic Party.

00:37:20.900 Are they not, ma'am?

00:37:21.600 they are but if you want to personalize it for me it is mississippi and benny thompson benny

00:37:27.540 thompson was the chair of the january 6th committee personally for me he ruined a year

00:37:31.540 and a half of my life and so if there was one seat that i cannot wait to see uh carved up and

00:37:37.080 thrown out it is benny thompson and i am hoping to be there on the election night when he absolutely

00:37:41.860 gets crushed or when the governor signs a bill that eliminates that district yeah i didn't want

00:37:47.420 to over-personalize this since Benny sent me to prison, but that's a topic for another day.

00:37:53.660 What is your Twitter feed? I want everybody going to Bomber Command today. You're going to lead us,

00:37:58.520 so where do people go, ma'am? It's at Caroline Wren on X, Truth Social, and Getter.

00:38:05.800 Okay, ma'am. Everybody be focused on that and look forward to seeing you and talking

00:38:09.360 tomorrow about updates. Thank you. Thanks. Caroline Wren, let's go. I want to talk about

00:38:15.400 artificial intelligence, Missouri and Texas. We've got Joe Nicola. Joe, you're a state senator

00:38:22.260 up in Missouri. Talk to me about this bill that you've been trying to get through

00:38:26.400 and the pressure and the pushback you've been getting.

00:38:31.480 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And thanks so much for having me on, Steve. Appreciate it.

00:38:35.840 So as everybody knows, AI is just advancing so rapidly and we have no guardrails whatsoever

00:38:41.460 in the state nor in the nation on artificial intelligence.

00:38:44.960 And so I just wanted to put some basic guardrails on it.

00:38:48.480 One, that AI could not be gain legal personhood.

00:38:52.940 And so it could not have legal rights, own property, be a CEO of a company.

00:38:57.120 I want to start protecting some jobs, especially jobs that are certified and licensed professionals.

00:39:03.960 Hang on, Joe, Joe, because you're hitting on a topic that they don't want to talk about in D.C.

00:39:11.460 Talk to me, when you first start with personhood, which I think is a huge topic, people think, oh, this is science fiction nonsense.

00:39:18.680 These guys, you know, Joe should have his tinfoil hat on.

00:39:22.780 Talk about how serious this thing about personhood is.

00:39:27.480 Well, you know, we've already seen reports around this nation, around the world, where people are actually marrying their AI.

00:39:34.380 um there is a in the country of albania they actually instituted a whole governmental department

00:39:40.880 on ai and created an ai gave it a name and it's running that that governmental department and um

00:39:48.100 we're seeing job losses um you know in utah i believe it is they now are using ai to prescribe

00:39:55.980 medication and um we cannot allow artificial intelligence to replace humans and i want to

00:40:03.720 keep human oversight over it. And they, we don't want to see machines or AI. We see these humanoids

00:40:09.960 are being created now and going to be beginning replacing teachers and all kinds of, of just 0.91

00:40:16.420 really, it is like sci-fi. We're, we're actually living in a science fiction movie, but it's real

00:40:21.880 life. And we just need to put some common sense guardrails around it. So AI cannot gain legal

00:40:27.980 personhood and have rights here's the thing too is that the grassroots uh and the soul of the

00:40:34.720 movement i think it's 85 15 are adamantly opposed to no guardrails at all on artificial intelligence

00:40:41.160 particularly things about you know getting the kids having these chat gvts being able to talk

00:40:46.880 to kids about suicide about all types of perversions uh etc yet you've got the ai industry

00:40:54.820 that is AI industry is targeting guys like you

00:40:57.660 and saying, hey, you're the problem.

00:41:01.380 Yeah, and I don't even know, to be quite honest with you,

00:41:05.180 all of the pressure that I've been getting,

00:41:07.860 but there's sure a lot of pressure

00:41:09.200 to not pass any artificial intelligence legislation.

00:41:14.440 And thankfully, I was able to get it on the Senate floor

00:41:17.060 for a perfection vote on just this last Thursday.

00:41:21.140 Now I'm waiting to go through another committee

00:41:23.260 and then come back to the Senate.

00:41:24.820 for a final vote. But, and I don't want to limit any innovation. I want to make sure there's plenty

00:41:31.060 of room for growth, but we do need to protect people's freedoms and liberties. And these kids

00:41:36.700 that, especially kids that are depressed, that are now going to AI chatbots to have discussions

00:41:43.140 about their depression. And we've already had documented cases where these kids are being told

00:41:48.860 to go ahead and commit suicide. And Steve, you've probably heard this too. There's been a couple

00:41:53.020 cases where the chatbot is actually telling them to go commit acts of terror, uh, terrorism before

00:41:58.840 they commit suicide. So we've got a major, major problem on our hands. So we just need to put some

00:42:03.920 limits on this and some guardrails to protect people, protect lives, protect kids. Um, you know,

00:42:09.620 these deep fakes that are happening where they're taken specifically women taking their heads from 0.87

00:42:15.040 social media, putting them on a nude body. This actually happened in, in the area of Kansas city

00:42:19.540 where I'm from, and selling it as pornography.

00:42:22.660 And it's just, it's really out of control right now.

00:42:26.240 And quite frankly, my bill doesn't do enough.

00:42:29.620 But it just begins this, the whole process of putting some regulation on it.

00:42:35.580 Joe, where do people go, your social media and your website?

00:42:39.500 People are going to, we want to follow this closely over the next couple of weeks.

00:42:42.740 So where do people go to find out more?

00:42:45.480 They can follow me on Facebook or X on either one.

00:42:48.540 But specifically, you can go to my personal website, and it's SenatorJoeNicola.com.

00:42:54.200 And we put all kinds of things up there, some video and information about the bills and legislation.

00:42:59.960 Yeah, that's it right there.

00:43:01.140 Joe, we look forward to getting you back this week as you fight through this.

00:43:05.500 So thank you so much.

00:43:06.380 I appreciate you.

00:43:07.760 Thank you, Steve.

00:43:08.600 I appreciate the work you're doing.

00:43:09.760 Thank you.

00:43:11.980 The pressure on these folks is enormous.

00:43:15.720 We're going to go to Texas.

00:43:16.900 We're going to take a short break, go to Texas, talk about data centers.

00:43:22.080 Remember the Fort Meade?

00:43:24.340 Hundreds of people showed up at Fort Meade, 100% of them, the citizens,

00:43:28.680 opposed to the 4 million square foot data center.

00:43:34.500 The commissioners passed it unanimously.

00:43:37.800 Far be it for me to say anybody was on the payroll.

00:43:41.220 Short break. 1.00

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00:46:41.320 Talk to me about data centers in the great state of Texas, ma'am.

00:46:47.140 It's great to be back.

00:46:48.220 So as we know, AI is booming across the country, and with this comes the need for more data centers.

00:46:56.440 And so they're popping up all over the country, but Texas is particularly fertile ground for these centers due to the wide open spaces, various other reasons.

00:47:05.100 And so they're really increasing in volume in Texas at a huge rate.

00:47:09.860 And while these Texas state legislators, many of them, these Republicans, they're supportive of the president, supportive of his agenda, they are concerned about the AI aspect of it in some cases because their constituents do not want, particularly rural constituents, do not want their communities to become dominated by these data centers because that can lead to increased water prices, electricity prices, and worst of all, water outages.

00:47:35.020 Texas already has grid issues. They already struggle with having shortages of electricity.

00:47:40.640 And so this is really concerning, particularly people in rural areas about their way of life

00:47:44.880 being lost. This is, you know, the situation in Texas too is about the aquifers, that these data

00:47:52.500 centers suck up an enormous amount of water. And they're saying, no, we have new construction,

00:47:58.860 this closed loop. There's nothing farther from the truth. You're taking just an open-ended bet

00:48:03.440 with these and here's the thing the constituents because the lack of ability to get a framework on

00:48:10.400 federal regulation which you're going to have to have something like the atomic energy commission

00:48:14.260 just going to have to um and i'm not for adding regulation i'm all for deconstructing the

00:48:20.840 administrative state we fought for that for years however there are certain things i don't know like

00:48:25.800 nuclear weapons and uh and nuclear technology artificial intelligence i think could be much

00:48:32.620 more lethal. The AI, the oligarch's ability to basically try to crush at the federal level

00:48:39.260 and then the slow walk, it has put it back on the states. And this is where Ron DeSantis and

00:48:44.000 people in Texas, it's a 90-10 issue or an 85-15 issue. With the grassroots and particularly rural,

00:48:51.160 Elizabeth, it's not even close. The vast overwhelming portion of people are saying,

00:48:56.840 this has got to be slowed down. We need to know much more about it. And these data centers

00:49:00.820 are ruining our communities, ma'am. Yeah, I mean, I talked to several Texas state reps about this

00:49:07.960 and something that I talked to Senator Angela Paxton, something she pointed out is that because

00:49:11.860 Texas has a citizen legislator, legislature, the representatives themselves are experiencing these

00:49:18.220 issues. And so they understand where the grassroots is coming from. And they're very

00:49:22.260 concerned about this. But I also talked to state rep Helen Kerwin, who's actually the mother of

00:49:26.900 our Agriculture Secretary, Brooke Rollins,

00:49:29.520 and she represents a very rural district

00:49:31.420 where data centers are popping up.

00:49:33.120 And she told me how she became engaged in this issue,

00:49:36.220 which is when she was talking to a 20-year-old

00:49:38.820 third-generation farmer who came to her saying

00:49:42.640 that he was worried he was gonna lose his family farm

00:49:44.980 because data centers wanted to,

00:49:47.220 AI companies wanted to purchase that land.

00:49:49.760 And he wanted to hold onto his land,

00:49:51.540 but he realized that if a data center bought the land

00:49:54.280 next door to his land,

00:49:55.700 He might not have electricity or power.

00:49:57.480 It might be too expensive to continue his farm.

00:49:59.640 And so this is something that the everyday Texan, particularly in those rural areas, are very concerned about.

00:50:05.900 Now, is this a legislative fight now?

00:50:08.960 Walk me through where this is about because it's been it's kind of been local with county commissioners.

00:50:14.580 And, you know, we've been backing these fights, particularly in Florida, of folks.

00:50:18.920 Is this now going to get up to the state level for legislation or is this still down at the county commissioner level?

00:50:25.700 Yeah, so the Texas legislature meets every other year, and it's expected that this year

00:50:31.160 the data center issue is going to be a very large part of the agenda because this is becoming

00:50:37.740 so prevalent, there's not very much regulation on it at this time, and these data centers

00:50:42.480 are benefiting from these tax breaks for businesses, and so this is something that a lot of Texas

00:50:46.660 legislators are very interested in putting regulation on.

00:50:49.520 Now, of course, the national, so we've been talking about this national standard on AI

00:50:54.080 that the White House is looking for Congress to pass on the federal level, and they're going to

00:50:58.160 have some sort of regulation on data centers as well. They've been talking about the ratepayer

00:51:02.640 protection plan to make sure that data centers bring their own power so that local people don't

00:51:07.520 have higher prices, but the legislatures I've been talking to, they don't want to just purely rely on 0.86

00:51:13.120 the federal Congress. They appreciate that effort, but they want to make sure that they're able to

00:51:18.000 pass regulation, particularly in their state, to meet the needs of their constituents in addition

00:51:22.880 to this national standard. Do you get a sense that they're talking about a special session

00:51:27.840 maybe for this issue of Sharia law? Do you get a sense that they could have a special session

00:51:33.180 in AI, particularly the data centers may be part of it right now? Yeah, I think this is something

00:51:38.500 that's top of mind for all of these members. Helen Kerwin is particularly looking for a pause

00:51:44.060 on data center construction while we do research on the effects, how this affects the aquaphor, 0.79

00:51:49.480 prices, that kind of thing. And so I think that the consensus I was getting from these legislators

00:51:56.100 is they understand that we have to win the AI race with China. We can't completely have no more

00:52:01.480 data centers, even though this is not something a lot of people want in their communities. If we

00:52:05.340 have no more data centers, it would be difficult to keep up with China on AI. But still, they don't 0.99

00:52:10.500 want this to happen at the cost of Americans, at the cost of everyday Texans who are going to

00:52:15.700 struggle because of these data centers. And so they're really looking to order more research on

00:52:19.980 this. And if the research is conclusive to need more regulation, that's something that they're

00:52:24.420 going to definitely be looking for in the next session. Elizabeth Trotman Mitchell, where do

00:52:28.860 people get you at The Daily Signal and your social media, ma'am? You can read my work at

00:52:33.740 dailysignal.com and follow me on x at thelizmitchell. I want to push this one out today.

00:52:40.580 Have everybody read it. 0.91

00:52:42.740 The great state of Texas under assault on this Islamic invasion around Sharia law, H-1B visas, data centers. 1.00

00:52:52.440 Texas is the jewel in the crown, and they're coming hard for Texas. 0.99

00:52:56.800 This is why Texans are fighting back and winning.

00:53:00.920 Got to make sure that we close on some of these wins.

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Episode 5345： Redistricting Battle Heads to Tennessee

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