Bannon's War Room - Episode 5347： Live From MAHA Summit; Who Is Really Operating The Strait Of Hormuz

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:09.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 You're just not going to get a free shot

00:00:14.000 at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 Mega Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.520 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.260 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.660 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:51.960 You're in the War Room. It's Monday, May 4th in the year of our Lord, 2026.

00:00:55.880 It's Natalie Winters hosting live from Washington, D.C.

00:00:59.340 It's been a while since I've been here.

00:01:01.560 I always get PTSD from when Steve was in prison, but much better in brighter times.

00:01:08.220 Case in point, R.K. Jr. is HHS secretary.

00:01:12.540 I'm sure a lot of you guys are watching that event.

00:01:14.520 We've been live streaming here focusing on the mental health epidemic and the mistreatment, misuse of some pretty wild drugs, if you ask me.

00:01:24.580 I know they have been talking a lot about that all day here in D.C.

00:01:29.120 We are honored to be joined by the president of Maha Institute.

00:01:33.760 That is Mark Gordon joining us to sort of break down first and foremost what happened at this event,

00:01:39.840 but also the implications for our audience and how you think the Trump administration can turn what you guys have been discussing today into much needed policy change.

00:01:54.040 do we have mark oh yes yes hi hi oh is there is there a question i'm sorry

00:02:04.460 yes sorry i think we might be having technical difficulties if you can just tell our audience a

00:02:10.900 little bit about the event you guys have been running today what rfk jr said and what you

00:02:15.900 guys are looking to sort of translate into actual actionable policies from the administration

00:02:20.440 yes so the maha institute held a summit today on the over medicalization of mental health

00:02:31.280 in the u.s i mean this is an epic there's an epidemic of over prescribing of psych meds that

00:02:40.360 is larger in number than the opioid epidemic and the is a similar phenomena where the

00:02:49.760 The corporatized U.S. health system has run out of control and has allowed itself to be captured by big pharma and is now acting pathologically overprescribing psych meds to kids.

00:03:05.680 We have four million children in this country on psych meds, some of them as young as five years old.

00:03:12.080 We heard today from a number of people who've had their lives ruined by this overprescription of meds.

00:03:21.320 And it's really devastating, some of these stories.

00:03:25.680 And the numbers are really just out of control.

00:03:32.720 You're talking about 60 million Americans on psych meds, many of them for just very normal conditions.

00:03:40.160 You have kids who are being overprescribed for not being able to sit still in class or the normal struggles of being a teenager.

00:03:50.100 And our medical system has done this and has gotten tens of millions of Americans hooked on these drugs, and they've never given them a safe way to get off.

00:04:02.140 So you have now tens of millions of people who are stuck on these drugs for many cases years based off of prescriptions that were maybe intended to last weeks or something like that.

00:04:17.920 And the medical system has never given them a way that doctors don't know how, haven't been taught how to deprescribe, to taper people off of these drugs.

00:04:33.340 Secretary Kennedy came here today and said that all of that is changing, that the government is now rolling out standards to allow people to taper off of drugs.

00:04:45.120 They're going to be training doctors on how to do it.

00:04:48.440 They're going to be reorienting our health system towards getting people off of these medications and not just getting them on it.

00:04:58.540 And we had a number of people from a number of different health agencies here talking about the role that all the various different government agencies are playing.

00:05:08.200 We've had independent doctors and experts from around the world talking about some of the practices and what we need to do to change our broken system.

00:05:19.940 It's totally a racket.

00:05:22.580 I'm curious when you talk about this over-prescription, are you trying to address the people actually getting on them?

00:05:32.900 or the full spectrum of it, the inability to sort of get off it without experiencing, you know,

00:05:37.680 withdrawal symptoms, a myriad of symptoms? Is this sort of, you know, from trying to decrease

00:05:43.820 the initial number of people on it, but also make it easier to get off? Is this really a

00:05:47.900 full spectrum policy change? Yes, it's really, it's everything. So, I mean, a lot of people

00:05:56.720 are put on these meds without proper consent. There's been a lot of talk about having proper

00:06:04.660 informed consent from patients, which means telling patients about some of the potentially

00:06:10.400 horrible side effects that have been hidden and not disclosed up until now. The Veterans

00:06:18.380 Administration is talking about requiring written sign consent because currently 70% of veterans who

00:06:29.080 are treated by the VA end up on a psych med at some point, many of them not being properly

00:06:36.480 informed about that. There's also, you know, there's lots of talk about, you know, everything

00:06:42.060 from, you know, nutrition to sleep to exercise to, you know, dealing with the underlying problems.

00:06:48.000 Some people have, you know, depression for very good rational reasons and not just jumping to medicate them.

00:06:57.000 So really the whole, you know, the idea is that the whole medical system is going to really look at this again and really look at itself in the mirror and say, you know, we've done another opioid epidemic and we need to get off of this.

00:07:11.520 And we need to make sure that these medications are only used in the narrow cases where they will actually be benefit as opposed to being sprayed widely as they are now.

00:07:24.200 Mark, I think you've got to bounce.

00:07:26.600 I'm sure the audience would love to hear more, and I want you to give them the tools to do that.

00:07:30.480 If people want to rewatch or watch the summit you guys just had, get in contact with you, your organization, what you guys are doing on this pillar, a very important one.

00:07:40.040 but also I know there's a whole spectrum.

00:07:42.180 Where can they go to get informed and stay up to date?

00:07:47.080 So there's the Maha Institute website

00:07:49.500 and also the Maha Institute X account.

00:07:52.820 Both of them have the live stream from today

00:07:57.580 and have lots of other information

00:08:00.160 about the work that we are doing.

00:08:03.620 Mark, thank you so much for joining us.

00:08:05.580 We'll have to have you back on soon.

00:08:07.140 okay thank you very much i appreciate it thank you uh denver let's trigger the audience a bit 0.51

00:08:16.640 we're talking about mental health i'm gonna probably send your mental health into a spiral 0.52

00:08:20.800 uh let's roll the clip there's a new proposal to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections

00:08:26.760 the idea is being pitched by an la city councilman eyewitness news reporter rob hayes spoke to that

00:08:32.280 council member and people who oppose the plan. Rob. Yeah, Hugo Soto Martinez is hoping the

00:08:37.460 upcoming November election could bring L.A. closer to letting non-citizens vote. It would only be in 1.00

00:08:43.640 L.A. city elections and he says it would most likely be years down the road if the council

00:08:48.540 moves it forward. But the mere mention of it is drawing strong criticism. As the Trump

00:08:54.620 administration rages about an unproven wave of illegal voters, one L.A. city council member is

00:09:00.220 hoping to make more potential voters legal.

00:09:03.420 Good morning everyone, buenos dias.

00:09:05.760 District 13 Councilman Hugo Sotas Martinez 0.79

00:09:08.720 wants non-citizen residents of Los Angeles

00:09:11.400 to be able to vote in citywide elections.

00:09:14.500 We have folks living in this country

00:09:15.900 who've been here 20 years, they've started a family,

00:09:17.740 they pay their taxes, many of them are homeowners,

00:09:20.640 but they don't have a say over the policies

00:09:22.600 that affect their children and their families

00:09:24.180 on any given day.

00:09:25.520 I know other cities have done it for local elections,

00:09:28.220 but I want to see where the appetite is for this council.

00:09:30.540 That appetite leaving a bad taste in some mouths.

00:09:34.060 It just strikes people as fundamentally wrong.

00:09:36.720 Ira Melman is with the Federation

00:09:38.560 for American Immigration Reform, FAIR.

00:09:41.000 He says voting is a privilege and a right for citizens

00:09:44.660 and that non-citizen voting would go against

00:09:47.220 what the founding fathers wanted.

00:09:49.280 The preamble to the constitution says,

00:09:51.360 we the people of the United States,

00:09:53.400 not we the taxpayers of the United States,

00:09:55.720 not we, the people who just happen to show up here in this country, whether it's legally or illegally,

00:10:00.860 that there are certain criteria, and that is the basic foundation of our republic.

00:10:07.280 Are we even a sovereign country anymore is my question after watching that.

00:10:13.520 I mean, I don't know. I've been to Mexico.

00:10:14.920 I mean, tourists probably contribute more to the GDP of that country than native-born citizens.

00:10:19.300 Do I get to vote in their elections? 0.90

00:10:21.900 I don't think so, although I guess we can't totally blame Democrats that much because while we're at it, we also got our cohort of horrible, nasty, nasty rhinos up here. 1.00

00:10:33.560 Maria Salazar gets to be the leading one of that pack, pushing the, you know, I'm supposed to say dignidad. 0.99

00:10:40.260 I think I'm supposed to do it in their native language, but I guess we'll call it the Dignity Act here in the war room. 0.94

00:10:46.420 So, no. Full stop, as Steve would say, no. Here's the issue, right? Usually we're told that we have to accept illegal aliens in droves into this country because it's a bargain, right, for the economy. That's the word they love to spin it as.

00:11:03.640 Well, sure, it's a bargain for the employers because you, the taxpaying, loyal, patriotic American citizen, you have to subsidize their health care, their education, their transportation.

00:11:15.980 And I think as we're learning, as each day goes by, also, I don't know, one of their cousins, you know, learning leering centers or their home care scam racket operation, as we're just learning today, I think over like $100 billion being spent. 0.75

00:11:33.460 So I guess refugees from some country in some war can hang out with their relatives at home and your tax dollars can subsidize that.

00:11:44.140 But now we're going to pile on to all the things you have to subsidize. 1.00

00:11:47.120 It's not just that you got to watch your kid's job or place in college get taken by some ungrateful immigrant legal or illegal. 0.99

00:11:54.500 But now they're also going to get to vote. 1.00

00:12:00.060 And it's pretty absurd.

00:12:01.800 I mean, what was it? This is only happening during the messaging on the SAVE Act.

00:12:05.480 I was told we were crazy because we said illegal aliens want to vote or try to vote.

00:12:10.940 And that's why we can't have something as simple as an act saying, well, no, foreigners, illegal aliens, you can't vote in American elections. 0.72

00:12:19.140 Well, these people will probably write in the dictators of the crappy third world countries that they're fleeing if they could. 0.92

00:12:26.700 I don't know if they speak English enough to understand how the ballots work.

00:12:30.640 But the issue with this, too, is that, you know, DHS under the newfound leadership of Mark Wayne Mullen, who I think can only be described as milk toast, their social media account doesn't give me much courage that they're doing anything to change this.

00:12:49.920 I want to read it. You guys can put it up if you have it. But under Trump and Secretary Mullen, criminal legal aliens are not welcome in the U.S.

00:12:58.640 This week, the nice men and women of ICE put their lives on the line to arrest murderers, pedophiles, arsonists, and sex criminals, including.

00:13:04.660 And then they go on to show a thread of some criminals.

00:13:08.380 The issue is that I want so many people being deported that you can't even put out a tweet thread where you can show their individual faces or pictures of them because you'd be putting out thousands a day.

00:13:19.880 And I also don't want deportations, A, to be limited to just a couple hundred thousand people a year.

00:13:25.440 It's giving Biden and it's giving Obama. But more importantly, I don't want to just deport the worst of the worst.

00:13:35.260 We can't even get illegal aliens who are destroying the fabric of this country out of here. 1.00

00:13:40.140 Meanwhile, Democrats amidst a messaging cycle where they're trying to convince us that illegal aliens do not vote, 0.90

00:13:46.300 which is why we can't have something as simple as the Save America Act,

00:13:49.420 are out there trying to legalize and codify more illegal aliens for being allowed to vote 0.51

00:13:55.500 and their flimsy logic is because they pay taxes that's how much they hate you because they pay 0.55

00:14:05.120 taxes well they don't tell you about all the free services and the social security scams that 0.76

00:14:09.160 they're in yeah i'm so glad the like somalian dude is paying you know whatever percent in taxes off 0.86

00:14:14.640 of the millions of dollars that he's receiving from the federal government. 1.00

00:14:20.060 I don't really think that's a sustainable business model or economic growth or really

00:14:25.140 the social contract that any of us signed up for here.

00:14:28.580 We're going to dig in more to the latest fraud.

00:14:32.980 Maybe I'll read some names of the alleged health care and home care workers that are

00:14:37.800 receiving millions of dollars to hang out with their relatives at home.

00:14:42.560 But we're only going after the criminals.

00:14:44.200 Well, I would broaden the definition of what it means to be a criminal.

00:14:48.040 And we'll get into that right after this short break.

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00:17:21.560 the birch gold reeds, but then I was put in the doghouse. Now I have to read the ads from the

00:17:26.800 script. It's all good. But picking up where we left off, there's some very interesting, we'll call

00:17:32.540 mask off moments from the New York Times. I wonder if you guys can put the first picture up.

00:17:41.160 I'm going to read this. I'm going to struggle a bit with the pronunciation, but that's okay.

00:17:46.620 Wafa Alhaj Ali, her husband and six children are among them. Since fleeing Syria as refugees in

00:17:56.120 august 2023 the family had received about 850 a month in benefits now with no food assistance at

00:18:03.100 all miss ali said in arabic buried lead i have to beg charities for bread if i could go back to

00:18:10.620 syria i would because it's getting too much she said how am i going to feed my kids get a job

00:18:18.260 tell your husband to get a job stop i don't know taking the american taxpayer for granted and

00:18:24.300 thinking that we're here not just to bring you in from your war-torn country, but also give you the

00:18:28.060 life that most people can barely afford to give their own children and grandchildren?

00:18:32.680 I mean, where do these people get off? I mean, I know the cultures they come from are different 0.99

00:18:36.960 than ours, but the sense of entitlement, I mean, let's add to it. And by the way,

00:18:43.360 this article was supposed to be an attack on the Trump administration for reforming

00:18:47.040 snap benefits uh i'm very okay taking this syrian refugee who would rather live in syria than the

00:18:54.480 united states perhaps we could make that a done deal for her uh fine by me but the next one's

00:19:01.560 even more ridiculous it's not really even a freudian slip because i don't even think they

00:19:06.160 have the tacit admission that what they're saying or recognition rather that what they're saying is 0.60

00:19:10.320 actually absurd this is quote this is in an article about the uh you know crazy radicalism

00:19:16.220 of deporting illegal aliens it only i don't know one the you know largest i think uh popular vote

00:19:23.900 in in recent history uh but other than that the new york times begs to differ quote children of

00:19:29.700 republican parents have intimidated our kids miss valencia said in spanish interesting theme there

00:19:36.840 quote they showed up to school with and i'll give you a second to guess how this sentence ends

00:19:42.780 american flags if american flags are such an intimidation tactic and tool that you think

00:19:51.700 is going to be used to i don't know make you scared to live in this country then yeah you

00:19:55.400 probably should get out and honestly i'm not super into the rebrand of ice becoming nice because i

00:20:02.100 don't think these people are nice i don't think these people are treating this country or its

00:20:06.080 citizens or its taxpayers in a very nice way i don't think they're treating the legacy or the

00:20:10.160 founding of this country in a very nice way. And frankly, I don't think they're treating the legal

00:20:13.960 immigrants who came here the right way and worked really hard the right way either. 0.90

00:20:20.180 So I'm OK if ISIS is a little bit meaner. And like I was saying, we have new reporting

00:20:26.140 coming from The Daily Wire. Luke Rossiak, who does great work, has been, I think, in and around

00:20:32.200 Ohio, showing nearly a billion dollars a year being spent on what is nebulously described

00:20:39.180 as home health care. But when you follow the money, which they always like to play the shell

00:20:46.460 game where they make it hard so you can't really understand or trace the money, but this was

00:20:51.560 available, I think, either through Doge data or FOIA information, found that a lot of it,

00:20:58.680 like I was saying to the tune of billions of dollars, was going to maybe not the Somalian

00:21:03.080 community, but some other version of an ethnic diaspora. For example, we'll make some people

00:21:08.220 famous here in the war room uh aau home health care silo mansare is getting 12 million dollars 0.92

00:21:15.580 in medicaid for services that we don't know uh this is a good one liban mohammed for la home

00:21:22.440 health care 8.2 million midwest home health care run by mohammed hussein 8.2 million union first

00:21:29.420 care inc by abdul sese 5.8 million and abdallah kitwara for vision one spelled wrong inc 5.5

00:21:36.300 million dollars in medicaid with the scam being that they literally can just say one of their

00:21:41.240 relatives is sick and they are providing home care to them and the government will reimburse them

00:21:45.860 i think this is quite emblematic of the deeper problem that we have in america and immigration

00:21:53.680 is first and foremost responsible for it which is this country is becoming a low trust society

00:22:00.020 and i think that the best way you can sum this up birds of a different feather but they

00:22:05.740 certainly do flock together, was a line in the manifesto of the White House Correspondents

00:22:11.720 dinner shooter, allegedly, Cole Allen, when he said, quote, I walk in with multiple weapons and

00:22:18.840 not a single person there considers the possibility that I could be a threat. Now, we're going to get

00:22:25.240 to Sam Battis in a sec. Otherwise, if we didn't have any guests, I'd play the clip of President

00:22:29.840 Trump reading the snake poem. Maybe they should do daily recitations of that at ICE headquarters.

00:22:35.740 But there's something, I think, quite symbolic of that. Right. People who want to do harm to this country, whether by trying to assassinate the president, come here, migrate here because, oh, they love America during the refugee admission process.

00:22:48.720 But then all of a sudden they want to go back to their country of origin because they're not getting enough free stuff. 0.69

00:22:53.680 it's exploiting the system it's exploiting the goodness the trusting nature of the American

00:23:01.980 heart of civic society of your community for selfish gain and very distorted versions perverted

00:23:09.180 versions of what selfish gain may be and I don't know about you but I'm pretty sick of it I would

00:23:14.740 like to go a day without hearing about a new fraudulent scam that one of my tax dollars has

00:23:19.580 been sent to. We already got the Ukraine war. Anyways, that's enough of Natalie ranting for

00:23:27.440 the day. I want to bring on Sam Faddis, who is going to break down the other news of the day,

00:23:33.280 maybe not so much in the foreign scam, although probably a little bit lane, but that is everything

00:23:37.740 that's going on in Iran, the Straits of Hormuz, everything. Can you sort of just give us, you have

00:23:44.180 some great reporting up on Substack, some great analysis. I always ask you to start your sort of

00:23:49.120 bird's eye view of where we stand now, what you think the administration is doing to sort of

00:23:54.400 shepherd the course of everything going on there? Right. Well, look, I think the key thing that we

00:24:04.980 have done recently is shift our strategy by blockading the Straits of Hormuz, which I think 0.82

00:24:12.840 is, was a brilliant step, a major step in the right direction because this war ultimately is

00:24:20.660 becoming, has been from the beginning really about leverage over the world economy. So that was a

00:24:28.420 great move. There's a lot of folks who believe that that is going to force the Iranians to the 1.00

00:24:35.900 table. They will effectively surrender. They will admit they've lost this war. I've been very 0.97

00:24:42.360 skeptical about that all along i don't i think we're going to have to apply a lot more pressure

00:24:50.040 so where are we right now you know we're coming to the end i guess we're coming to the end of

00:24:53.960 the ceasefire although there's verbiage about that that kind of fuzzes the issue periodically

00:25:00.440 uh the iranians have started shooting at the uae the united arab emirates again they have

00:25:08.520 attacked vessels in the Persian Gulf. Again, we sank a bunch of small boats that they're now using

00:25:15.800 to attack. So things are heating up. The Iranians apparently delivered to us via the Pakistanis

00:25:26.520 a couple of days ago now their latest, what's supposed to be a 14-point plan for how to end

00:25:34.840 this conflict the exact text of that i have not seen publicly but a number of sources including

00:25:42.120 iranian state media have told us the big picture the big things that are that are in it and it

00:25:48.840 amounts in my opinion to another surrender document meaning they want us to surrender

00:25:55.000 doesn't say anything at all about the nuclear program doesn't promise to do anything in that

00:25:59.480 regard tells us we have to pull all up not only stop shooting at them we have to promise never 0.91

00:26:04.920 to shoot at them again we have to pull all of our military out of the entire middle east from 0.79

00:26:09.720 anywhere near them we have to pay reparations to them not just for the damage that we caused bombing 0.83

00:26:16.920 but for all the damage we ever caused by sanctions what am i forgetting uh we got to give them back

00:26:24.920 all of their money that's being held in bank accounts around the world we have to lift all

00:26:30.440 sanctions of any kind against them so they can buy anything they want i mean it really is 0.95

00:26:38.040 it is asking us to capitulate completely and surrender and leave the middle east so

00:26:47.160 that's clearly a non-starter and i think you can infer from that that a country that's delivering

00:26:53.320 those kinds of terms is not really on the verge of of surrendering and the bottom line is they

00:26:59.700 don't think they're losing the war sam if you can hang with us through the break i want to talk

00:27:05.680 about the information warfare landscape legacy media of course curing water for anything that's

00:27:11.360 anti-american um but there this seems to be a level above everything that's we that we've seen

00:27:16.340 gone on go on in ukraine um hang with us through the break we got one more message from birch gold

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00:27:56.780 We will be right back after this short break.

00:27:59.020 More Sam Fadis breaking down the information warfare going on in Iran.

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00:29:48.600 Why they started getting aggressive again in the strait?

00:29:53.580 Well, I think this has come off the back of President Trump's plan to escort some of these vessels using U.S. Navy vessels out of the straits of Hormuz to some form of safety.

00:30:04.760 I think also the fact that the U.S. blockade very much remains in the straits of Hormuz.

00:30:09.760 And I think what Iran feel is that by the U.S. carrying out the blockade and carrying out these escorts is a break of the ceasefire in itself.

00:30:19.960 And so what they believe is that, well, if the U.S. has broken the ceasefire in that sense, then we will target the UAE.

00:30:26.960 But specifically targeting UAE vessels and then UAE territory is a big step by the Iranians. 0.56

00:30:34.060 And it will not be taken lightly, not least by the UAE, but of course, the U.S. and Israel as well, specifically on the talks and why it seems to be a breakdown. 0.57

00:30:43.400 Look, I think there's two sides to this. Yes, it was positive that these discussions were taking place and that Iran had put forward a 14 point proposal and that the U.S. responded and Iran are reviewing that response.

00:30:54.820 But those 14 points were pretty unrealistic. And I think the president would see them as totally unacceptable.

00:31:02.260 And also, if Iran is not talking about its nuclear program within a framework to have negotiations,

00:31:08.680 then the U.S. will feel that there's no point, essentially, to have those discussions.

00:31:13.160 So it was probably Iran going to the president, well, look, you need a deal more than we do.

00:31:18.220 We're not going to capitulate to any of your demands.

00:31:20.840 So the ball is in your court, and here's the price that you have to pay.

00:31:24.340 Here's our deal and our demands that you must follow in order to get to the negotiation table.

00:31:30.380 So I think that's where we are.

00:31:31.720 Iran probably wasn't entirely serious about actually having direct discussions once again.

00:31:37.260 And a senior diplomat over the weekend inside Tehran was telling me all along that regional hostilities will likely flare up once again.

00:31:44.920 Iran have been preparing for a U.S. and Israeli attack inside of Tehran and other parts of the country as well.

00:31:52.280 So I think all along we knew potentially that this conflict would reignite.

00:31:56.920 I just don't think we expected that Iran to go on the offensive today and specifically target vessels in the Straits of Hormuz, but also target territory within the UAE once again.

00:32:08.120 Is the ceasefire still a ceasefire?

00:32:11.700 Well, it's right on the edge of breaking down.

00:32:14.300 But since yesterday's order by President Trump, the U.S. Navy to conduct escort duty through the Straits, I've been on edge.

00:32:23.820 This is not a realistic plan.

00:32:26.280 The U.S. Navy has enormous courage and tremendous technology and a layered defense.

00:32:34.380 They can protect themselves pretty well.

00:32:36.540 But there's 2,000 or more ships in and out of the Persian Gulf stuck.

00:32:42.420 They're not going to be able to get 130 ships a day through the Straits with an escort.

00:32:48.320 And by the way, they're still slow-moving oil tankers, tremendous targets, can be hit.

00:32:53.640 But even the U.S. Navy is at great risk trying to pull off escort duty.

00:33:00.120 They've probably got less than five minutes of reaction time in the Gulf to a ballistic missile attack.

00:33:07.520 There's still 20-some-odd mini submarines, perhaps, in the Gulf along the Iranian Navy, which are very difficult to detect. 0.71

00:33:17.020 They've got mine warfare options.

00:33:19.380 They've got swarm tactics of UAVs, as well as aircraft, potentially, and cruise missiles.

00:33:29.680 So this is a high-risk operation, and it won't solve the political and economic problem of opening the Gulf.

00:33:39.000 You're back in the war room.

00:33:41.120 We are still joined by Sam Faddis to break all of that down for us.

00:33:44.680 Sam, I want your thoughts, your reaction, but also to the broader point.

00:33:49.380 You know, a lot of accusations against the U.S. media this morning saying that Iran had hit a ship, even some people saying the discussion of mines in the strait is kind of overblown or fear mongering.

00:34:00.780 I'm not pretending to know what the reality on the ground is there.

00:34:03.680 I don't think any of us do. But given your kind of expertise, what do you see the information warfare landscape shaping up to be?

00:34:13.320 Yeah, I think I think it's kind of unprecedented, which I think is where you're going with that.

00:34:19.000 I mean, it's not it. It is it is being done on a scale and with an audacity that is certainly

00:34:28.140 unprecedented. I mean, completely fictitious stories, complete with video and all sorts of

00:34:34.800 claimed firsthand accounts are put out. And it turns out it's complete nonsense. And some of

00:34:41.760 that is just people that think this is cute. And some of those people that just think they're

00:34:46.860 to get clicks from this but a lot of it is being done by the iranians and and by other hostile

00:34:53.740 actors i mean earlier there was reverberating around the internet earlier today was yet another

00:34:59.980 story that one of our aircraft carriers had been struck complete with video of smoke pouring out

00:35:06.380 of a warship and all this and of course you know the video is of a derelict u.s vessel that we

00:35:14.940 actually shot and sank ourselves in a live fire exercise like a decade ago in the pacific a ship

00:35:23.660 that was decommissioned and used in an exercise as a target to give people experience with actually

00:35:30.940 sinking a real vessel so that video then gets resurfaced a decade later and repurposed and put

00:35:37.980 out here so uh it's very aggressive and unfortunately a lot of people are falling for

00:35:43.500 I mean, people, you know how it is on the internet, people see that and my God, I have to retweet that and push that out so I look like I'm on top of things and you don't take any time whatsoever to figure out whether there's any truth to that.

00:36:01.420 At the same time, there are other things that are happening that are just completely buried and ignored. It's become a huge issue.

00:36:13.500 I'm curious to get your thoughts, too, obviously, on the China angle of all this.

00:36:17.840 But to that point of things that haven't been, I think, deservedly or just justifiably covered enough.

00:36:25.240 The latest going on, of course, with, you know, the Taiwanese visit to Eswatini, seeing the airspace over three African countries essentially be shut.

00:36:35.700 It seemed like Europe also kowtowed to the CCP's demands.

00:36:40.080 I'm not exactly sure how the fierce and fighting president there is going to get back.

00:36:46.400 I saw some Bloomberg reporting about that this morning.

00:36:49.340 But, you know, the symbolism there, too, I think, as we're talking about the free navigation of waterways, obviously everything going on in the Strait of Hormuz.

00:36:57.760 But also now, you know, I thought China is supposedly weakened by all of this and intimidated.

00:37:02.540 That seems pretty escalatory to make such demands, talking about the closure of airspace, obviously, in a country where they own a lot of a lot of debt, a lot of infrastructure, a lot of ports basically have those countries by the you know what.

00:37:18.800 But your sort of thought on the China angle to all this.

00:37:22.940 Well, I think it's enormous. 0.91

00:37:24.720 I mean, obviously, these guys are the number one existential threat to the United States, communist China. 0.98

00:37:29.880 And they're not sitting on the sidelines. 0.97

00:37:31.540 They're not setting this out.

00:37:33.440 I mean, you know, a few weeks ago now, we had a U.S. Navy destroyer after the blockade was put in effect and, you know, ended up opening fire on a container ship trying to run through the blockade into Iran, okay, and disabled it.

00:37:50.820 The ship was seized.

00:37:51.860 That ship was loaded with containers.

00:37:53.440 The cargo was sodium perchlorate, which is one of the precursor chemicals.

00:37:59.500 It's about 70 percent by volume.

00:38:01.540 of solid rocket fuel for Iranian missiles.

00:38:04.580 Okay, so that's, and this is all coming from China.

00:38:07.140 This ship loaded its cargo in China

00:38:10.760 and then tried to run the blockade into Iran.

00:38:14.180 But that, okay, and then it was stopped. 0.77

00:38:16.180 But the thing is, the Chinese have run, 0.97

00:38:19.020 I've lost track now.

00:38:20.020 They ran a whole bunch of other such vessels

00:38:24.600 loaded with material to help the Iranians

00:38:27.580 and their war effort into Iran before we imposed the blockade.

00:38:33.180 So the Iranians are shooting at us, trying to kill our people, 0.93

00:38:36.860 and they're using missiles that the Chinese are fueling. 0.93

00:38:40.540 And the Chinese are providing all sorts of other stuff to them too,

00:38:43.780 all the electronics for the drones, et cetera. 0.98

00:38:46.580 So the Chinese are deliberately assisting the Iranians 0.93

00:38:50.680 in attempting to kill American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines. 0.87

00:38:56.220 And now that we've imposed the blockade, all of a sudden Pakistan, working as a shill for the Chinese, has opened up six separate land routes from Pakistan into Iran. 0.88

00:39:09.200 And what they're doing, containers are coming from China, they're putting into a port in Pakistan, they're being loaded on trucks, and they're being driven into Iran. 0.92

00:39:20.260 In other words, this is the Chinese continuing to do precisely what they were doing before. 0.87

00:39:25.780 They're just doing it over land now. 0.92

00:39:28.820 Again, helping the Iranians kill people in the middle of a war with the United States. 0.95

00:39:36.720 I don't know how much more belligerent you can get. 0.95

00:39:39.320 They're also providing targeting data.

00:39:41.440 Their drones are much more capable now because the Chinese give them the information they need for precise targeting.

00:39:49.600 I don't think that's the kind of thing you ignore, honestly.

00:39:53.400 I mean, I don't think the president ought to go to China while this is going on.

00:39:57.800 And frankly, any Chinese entity that comes within 10 miles of this activity ought to be sanctioned.

00:40:03.500 And I don't mean like customs duties. 0.97

00:40:05.860 I mean, like you don't do any business with the United States and you don't touch our banking system.

00:40:12.400 You know, we're in a fight now.

00:40:14.700 Whether we should have started the war at this time or not, we're in a fight.

00:40:18.360 we got to win and we're not going to win by half measures. Can you just elaborate a bit on why you

00:40:25.400 don't think President Trump, I mean, I really don't think he should go there. They should come

00:40:29.560 to us. They're very into symbolism and the meaning of where meetings take place or at least have it

00:40:34.360 in a neutral country, Singapore or something. But why now do you think is particularly a bad time?

00:40:40.920 we've got a few minutes. Yeah. Look, I think when you, if you are negotiating with somebody

00:40:48.920 and I'm using that term pretty broadly here, if we're trying to, we're trying to influence folks

00:40:57.480 and we're trying to get them to, to modify their behavior and so forth. I think some of the,

00:41:03.420 sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is just stand up from the table and walk away

00:41:10.320 and refuse to continue the conversation,

00:41:13.240 which is kind of where we are with the Iranians as well right now,

00:41:16.080 with whom I have a lot of experience.

00:41:18.500 Sitting there, you know, when they hand you a surrender document,

00:41:21.960 another one, because their first 10-point plan was also a surrender document.

00:41:27.240 When they hand you something like that,

00:41:29.040 the answer, in my opinion, in my experience,

00:41:31.560 is not to say, okay, well, let's talk about these one by one.

00:41:36.060 It's just to stand up from the table and toss the thing across the table

00:41:39.640 and walk out of the room and just let them understand, okay, you want to know what my

00:41:45.500 response is? Stand by because the response will be incoming. We're going to, those six overland

00:41:51.080 routes from Pakistan, they all run through territory where they cross numerous river

00:41:56.280 valleys and canyons. And there are any number of bridges that if they're taken out means no traffic

00:42:02.580 moves and we can take them out faster than they can move. Same for the rail lines. Do that like

00:42:08.540 five minutes after you get up from the table. It's, it's that kind of psychological message.

00:42:13.240 And I think, you know, I'm not suggesting we attack the Chinese now, but I'm saying the Chinese

00:42:17.680 need to, to feel the same thing from us. I'm not talking to you right now. You're, you're arming 0.59

00:42:23.940 these guys and, and tomorrow a U S Navy vessel could be hit and hundreds of American sailors

00:42:30.540 killed because you guys are giving them the means to do it. So there's no way in hell I'm coming to

00:42:35.540 talk to you yeah i just hate the optics of it too going going there i think is is wrong um sam if

00:42:44.440 you can hang with us through the break i know the audience once once more of your analysis i'd also

00:42:49.540 posit too that the time to go over there amidst our ongoing munitions crisis here the rate at

00:42:57.380 which we are depleting a lot of these you know lamborghini equivalent type interceptors missiles 0.61

00:43:02.700 you name it, to shoot down, you know, $10,000, $20,000 Jones that are made with Chinese parts,

00:43:09.020 Chinese companies, take your pick, basically all of it. You know, we've yet to, I think,

00:43:14.120 find the right way to reshore manufacturing here. I can tell you it's not giving more endless black 0.99

00:43:20.360 hole dollars to the defense primes that got us in this position in the first place that take

00:43:24.500 multiple years to return things that we're using up in seconds. Frankly, a conflict that I don't

00:43:31.520 know how necessary it is. Iran is not our China. It may be Israel's, but it's not ours. We'll be 0.96

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00:45:21.840 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:45:28.680 You're back in the War Room. We still got the wonderful Sam Fados with us. Sam,

00:45:33.960 we only got a few minutes. I know I have held you for quite some time. I appreciate it. So does the

00:45:38.440 audience. But just sort of to conclude everything, moving forward, what do you think the audience

00:45:43.860 needs to be looking out for from the White House?

00:45:46.340 You know, what do you think the White House needs to be doing

00:45:48.320 to hopefully, Godspeed, end this thing quickly

00:45:52.440 so we can kind of, you know, repair, recover, recharge

00:45:55.680 from the serious losses that we've taken?

00:46:01.280 Well, look, as anybody that's watched this program regularly knows,

00:46:04.280 you know, if I was advising the president,

00:46:06.000 I would have said, don't start this war.

00:46:08.340 And if the decision was we're going to start this war,

00:46:11.020 I would have said, well, then don't do it this way

00:46:12.540 because it ain't going to work.

00:46:13.860 This idea that you're going to bomb them for a week and they're going to quit.

00:46:17.020 Okay, that's water over the dam.

00:46:18.860 We're in it. 1.00

00:46:20.440 You can't lose this war to the Iranians and not suffer catastrophic consequences. 1.00

00:46:25.340 So we have to force them to actually accept what amount to terms of surrender. 1.00

00:46:33.580 Closing the straits alone is not sufficient to do that.

00:46:36.820 But we got to get, you know, we're on the right track in terms of economic pressure.

00:46:40.380 Okay, you got to keep turning the screws. 1.00

00:46:42.320 Six overland routes from Pakistan, close them all. 1.00

00:46:45.720 Take out every bridge.

00:46:47.560 They're running small tankers through territorial waters to circumvent the blockade.

00:46:52.400 Sink them.

00:46:53.720 I mean, they got money, billions of dollars in banks all around the world.

00:46:58.420 Take the money.

00:46:59.260 Don't just freeze it.

00:47:00.260 Take it.

00:47:00.660 I mean, you have to methodically throttle this regime, and they will quit when they decide they are beaten, not when we decide.

00:47:09.120 We've got to stop waiting for them to surrender.

00:47:12.840 We have to make them surrender.

00:47:16.460 Sam, if people want to follow you, keep up with all the writing you're doing, you're everywhere.

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00:47:39.120 Thank you, sir, for joining us. I appreciate it.

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Bannon's War Room - May 04, 2026

Episode 5347： Live From MAHA Summit; Who Is Really Operating The Strait Of Hormuz

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