Bannon's War Room - May 05, 2026


Episode 5350: Epic Fury Is Over; Redistricting Fights Break Out Across The South


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00:00:01.000 Abandoned with a date.
00:00:02.000 President, hold it.
00:00:03.240 President, no, first off, I'm not a politician.
00:00:05.880 Number two, President Trump just agreed with me.
00:00:08.500 He's going to be at the White House for nine more years.
00:00:10.400 He said that the other day in the East Wing, I think,
00:00:14.080 when they all melted down.
00:00:15.400 Eric Bolling, it's always a pleasure.
00:00:17.140 I look forward to seeing you tomorrow.
00:00:18.300 We're going to talk about what happens overnight.
00:00:19.980 If they get more than 11 shifts through the straighter.
00:00:22.380 Gloves above the belt.
00:00:23.560 Gloves above the belt.
00:00:25.560 I didn't realize, I didn't realize,
00:00:27.740 I didn't realize that all those years at Fox, what it didn't, I'm just kidding.
00:00:31.420 That is on the way out.
00:00:33.480 That's one of those haymakers on the way out of the ring.
00:00:36.740 See you tomorrow.
00:00:37.800 Eric Bowling.
00:00:38.460 Thank you so much, sir.
00:00:39.700 Appreciate you.
00:00:41.660 The great Eric Bowling.
00:00:42.900 We'll have Eric back on tomorrow.
00:00:44.080 Okay.
00:00:44.260 We're going to play a cold open.
00:00:45.700 A lot went on this afternoon.
00:00:47.540 We're going to play a cold open.
00:00:49.300 And then I've got Dr.
00:00:50.880 Peter Navarro from the white house, Alex Degrass and Caroline Renegar join us
00:00:55.520 about redistricting.
00:00:56.640 Let's go ahead and let it rip.
00:00:59.240 As President Trump has said, and the facts clearly bear out, the United States of America
00:01:03.300 holds all the cards.
00:01:05.180 There is no scenario here in which if they decide to join a ladder of escalation, they
00:01:10.060 wind up getting the last say.
00:01:11.820 But our preference is for these straits to be opened to the way they're supposed to be
00:01:15.880 open, back to the way it was.
00:01:18.140 Anyone can use it, no mines in the water, nobody paying tolls.
00:01:21.920 That's what we have to get back to, and that's the goal here. 0.82
00:01:24.340 Every day the conflict continues, however, our leverage on Iran will continue to increase
00:01:28.260 and their position will continue to weaken, especially as the blockade really begins to
00:01:32.380 divide in conjunction with the sanctions.
00:01:34.080 This is an international waterway.
00:01:35.700 Okay, this is an international waterway.
00:01:38.160 And international law is very clear, and I love it because everybody always talks about
00:01:40.800 international law on this.
00:01:42.400 International law on this is very clear.
00:01:44.000 International waterways, no country can control them.
00:01:46.960 There is no international law that allows you to say, I'm going to put mines in an international
00:01:50.780 body of water, and I'm going to blow up ships that don't listen to us and try to go through. 1.00
00:01:54.880 That's what Iran is doing. This is a criminal act, and someone needs to do something about it. 1.00
00:01:59.820 Something needs to be done. It's completely illegal, completely illegitimate, and completely
00:02:03.560 unacceptable. And that's why the United States military is guiding stranded commercial ships
00:02:08.220 safely through the strait, and is working to restore freedom of navigation and putting an
00:02:12.220 end to these efforts to hold the global economy hostage. On the rising oil and gas prices,
00:02:17.360 The President has said that this is a small price to pay for getting rid of a nuclear weapon. 0.96
00:02:21.280 But 10 weeks in, are we any closer to getting rid of Iran's nuclear material? 0.89
00:02:25.520 Yeah, but look, here's the way to think about Iran. 0.90
00:02:27.940 And this is what I described at the very beginning of this.
00:02:30.160 What was Iran's plan? 0.86
00:02:31.220 You have to understand what their plan was. 0.79
00:02:32.740 Their plan was they were going to build this conventional shield
00:02:34.820 where they would have so many thousands of missiles and drones and rockets
00:02:37.540 that they couldn't be attacked.
00:02:39.500 And behind that conventional shield that they were trying to build,
00:02:42.380 they would then break out and do whatever they wanted with their nuclear program.
00:02:44.920 They no longer have that conventional shield.
00:02:46.980 We told you guys from the very beginning, and we're very consistent in this messaging,
00:02:52.040 the operation that has concluded was going to destroy their Navy.
00:02:55.360 They have no Navy left.
00:02:56.580 They don't.
00:02:57.100 Not a Navy.
00:02:57.560 They have small boats and Boston whalers, but they don't have a Navy left.
00:03:00.540 They don't have an Air Force.
00:03:01.900 I challenge you.
00:03:02.700 When is the last time you read or heard about an Iranian jet flying anywhere?
00:03:06.320 They don't have an Air Force.
00:03:07.940 Their missile launching capability has been substantially degraded,
00:03:11.220 and their industrial base, their defense industrial base, has been severely, severely damaged.
00:03:15.520 So their ability to build a shield behind which they could hide their nuclear program was wiped out.
00:03:21.420 That's a very substantial achievement, and that was the purpose of this operation from day one.
00:03:25.580 But do you have to get their nuclear material in order for this war to end?
00:03:28.040 Well, that's one of the topics that needs to be discussed.
00:03:29.860 I don't know about – I think you're linking it.
00:03:31.940 The operation is over.
00:03:33.920 Epic Fury, as the President notified Congress, we're done with that stage of it.
00:03:37.640 We're now on to this project of freedom.
00:03:39.580 As far as a negotiation is concerned, I think the President's been clear that part of the negotiation process
00:03:44.760 has to be not just the enrichment, but what happens to this material that's buried deep
00:03:48.860 somewhere that they still have access to if they ever wanted to dig it out. That has to
00:03:53.120 be addressed, and that's being addressed in the negotiation. I'm not going to go further
00:03:57.140 on what progress has been made on that topic, because I don't want to endanger the negotiations,
00:04:00.700 but suffice it to say that the president and this entire team is aware of the centrality
00:04:05.000 of that question, and that will have to be addressed one way or the other.
00:04:08.280 The president, our president, has proven time and again that his preference is peace,
00:04:12.580 But Iran must accept the reality of the situation and come to the negotiation table and accept terms that are good for them, but ultimately good for the world.
00:04:20.520 The diplomatic path, if there's a real diplomatic path, I'm not always going to be one, but if there's a real diplomatic path and we continue to explore it,
00:04:27.400 Steve and Jared are working on that very hard.
00:04:29.320 If there is one there, it could be one that leads them to reconstruction, to prosperity and to stability and to not posing a threat to the world.
00:04:36.100 The alternative is growing isolation, economic collapse and ultimately total defeat. 1.00
00:04:41.700 I know what the right choice is for Iran. 1.00
00:04:43.800 I hope that the people over there making decisions will make the right one. 1.00
00:04:47.040 Operation Epic Fury is over.
00:04:49.340 The president also said that the U.S. would bomb them off the face of the earth if they tried to go after U.S. ships.
00:04:53.780 So if the fighting resumes, are you saying that it would resume under Project Freedom?
00:04:58.880 And I ask as it relates to the War Powers Act.
00:05:01.840 Yeah, look, the Operation Epic Fury is concluded.
00:05:06.160 We achieved the objectives of that operation.
00:05:08.420 I'm not going to, you know, we're not cheering for an additional situation to occur.
00:05:13.620 We would prefer the path of peace.
00:05:15.300 What the president would prefer is a deal.
00:05:17.360 He would prefer to sit down, work out a memorandum of understanding for future negotiations that touches on all the key topics that have to be addressed,
00:05:23.500 a full opening of the straits so the world can get back to normal.
00:05:26.440 And he preferred that that be negotiated through the route that Steve and Jared have been working and that all of us have been supporting.
00:05:31.540 That's the route he prefers.
00:05:33.160 That is so far not the route that Iran has chosen.
00:05:35.760 And so the result has been that the United States has to do something about the fact that we're the only nation on earth that can do anything to open up a lane within the Straits of Hormuz to get product and to rescue these people that are trapped in there.
00:05:46.480 And that's what we're undergoing now.
00:05:47.720 What that may lead to in the future is speculative.
00:05:50.020 I'm not going to speculate about what it would take or what it would do. 0.89
00:05:52.460 But look, the message to Iran, these guys are facing, they are facing real catastrophic destruction to their economy, generational destruction to their economy, generational destruction to the wealth of their country, 0.97
00:06:03.740 imposed on themselves by the actions that they're taking. 1.00
00:06:06.820 They should check themselves before they wreck themselves
00:06:08.620 in the direction that they're going.
00:06:10.180 But does the White House believe that these votes coming up in Congress
00:06:13.300 are a moot point, then?
00:06:14.600 Look, guys, I love talking about this topic.
00:06:16.560 You talk about the War Powers Act.
00:06:17.560 Okay, I love it. I was hoping somebody would ask.
00:06:19.700 All right, hold on, hold on.
00:06:20.820 No, no, you don't let me answer. I've got to answer the question.
00:06:23.700 Okay? And I love it. I'll tell you why I love it.
00:06:25.980 Because even as a senator, I said something.
00:06:28.500 The War Powers Act is unconstitutional, 100%.
00:06:31.420 Now, this is not the position of me.
00:06:33.120 not the position of the President of the United States now, this is the position of every single
00:06:37.020 president that has occupied this position since the day that law passed. It's completely
00:06:41.100 unconstitutional. Now we comply with it in terms of like notification because we want to preserve
00:06:45.680 good relations with Congress, right? And we do that. But even as a senator, I would say that
00:06:49.700 the War Powers Act is 100% unconstitutional. And look, I know some of you, whatever you want to
00:06:54.980 say, but this is not this president's position. That has been the position of every single
00:06:59.800 presidential administration since the day that law passes. An infringement on the president's
00:07:03.780 constitutional powers. We don't acknowledge the law as constitutional. Nonetheless, we comply with
00:07:08.440 elements of it for purposes of maintaining, you know, good relations with Congress. And we want
00:07:13.640 them to be involved and we want them to be informed. I have gone on Capitol Hill, I don't know, four
00:07:17.060 times this year for all senators and all House members and intel committee and gang of eight.
00:07:21.720 We want them to be involved in this. But I want to be clear on the point of the War Powers Act.
00:07:25.860 It's unconstitutional, and every president and every administration has taken that position.
00:07:31.160 All right, guys, I gave you 50 minutes.
00:07:33.040 Thank you.
00:07:33.600 Thank you, guys.
00:07:35.100 The last point I would make, and it really is important for them to understand this,
00:07:38.340 is they really shouldn't test the will of the United States, at least not under President Donald Trump.
00:07:43.260 He has proven time and again that he will back up what he says.
00:07:46.580 And if they test him, ultimately they will lose.
00:07:49.120 The hard way, the easy way, the long way, the short way, they will lose.
00:07:52.120 Both General Blanche and Secretary Rollins have alluded to this 85 percent control.
00:07:58.980 I'll give you the nerd view as an economist who was in antitrust for a while.
00:08:05.940 There's this thing that four firms is a magic number.
00:08:09.240 It's the four firm concentration ratio that's been enshrined in Justice Department doctrine for decades.
00:08:16.940 And it basically says when you approach even something like 60 percent, you invite collusion, either explicit or tacit.
00:08:27.880 And that's not only the problem we have here. 0.98
00:08:31.740 It's that half of the four are Brazilian. 1.00
00:08:37.200 Half of the four are Brazilian.
00:08:39.360 And in my tariff world, I remember vividly just recently when the president put tariffs on Brazil because of actions they were taking, which were harmful to the American people.
00:08:59.300 What happened? 0.90
00:09:00.700 The beef lobby represented by the Brazilians 1.00
00:09:06.440 Quietly threatened the White House 0.99
00:09:10.560 And we saw beef that should otherwise be on the counters
00:09:16.300 Sold in American grocery stores
00:09:18.420 Go and wear
00:09:19.620 China 0.78
00:09:21.140 So it's not just price gouging and price fixing 0.82
00:09:28.100 We have to worry about 1.00
00:09:29.980 It's also the influence of foreigners on our supply chain and the national security issues that are associated that we cannot tolerate that. 0.99
00:09:44.680 OK, the press conference today ended wildly, but I think Marco did a solid job of walking through a number of things. 0.99
00:09:51.160 Number one, I don't think it quite hit upon me that Epic Fury was over.
00:09:57.340 right i think they said uh i thought the letter was saying that it was temporarily suspended and
00:10:04.240 because it didn't have to count and now i realize what they were talking about this morning is the
00:10:08.720 naval operation is not just a separate operation that is the operation uh so i i don't know what
00:10:15.320 the israelis think about the fact that the main target of iran appears of course in in the
00:10:22.080 secretary of state and national security advisor rubio said it twice we'll get back to that neil
00:10:28.520 mccabe's at the white house he was there today we'll get to neil in a moment we're pretty packed
00:10:33.380 this afternoon for the next two hours dr peter navarro joins us here's what i can't understand
00:10:40.000 about this what you guys are doing on on this beef situation because i'm hearing from people
00:10:45.100 in the united states that actually have beef that are cattle and they hate the fact that we're
00:10:50.100 bringing brazilian is the concept here that you're trying to break this cartel so we can bring more
00:10:55.540 brazilian beef into the united states sir no no no no no no no no no the brazilian angle steve is
00:11:04.100 simply that the brazilians own u.s processing capacity full stop four firms tyson cargill
00:11:14.700 jbs which is the one of the worst brazilian actors uh and a thing a company called national
00:11:23.200 beef which is actually brazilian as well so jbs national beef have come in and bought up our
00:11:30.840 processing capability here in in the u.s on u.s soil and what they do is a according according
00:11:40.460 to information they collude with the others on price but then when it comes to things like i
00:11:50.200 mentioned in the in the cold open pressuring the united states government on behalf of the
00:11:58.120 brazilian government they do things like ship beef here that would otherwise to china that
00:12:05.320 would otherwise be here. So this is not, don't conflate these two issues. We're talking about
00:12:12.460 Brazilian companies that have taken over U.S. processing on U.S. soil and they're going to be
00:12:21.740 investigated and divestiture, Steve, is on the table. Hang on. How did that pass? Was it CFIUS
00:12:29.720 or whatever the national security checks and balances are,
00:12:33.180 how did these two get, and what percentage?
00:12:35.640 You've got four, but Cargill and Tyson's are huge.
00:12:38.660 What percentage of the market did the JBS and National Beef,
00:12:43.220 the two Brazilian entities,
00:12:45.180 what percentage of the marketplace do they control?
00:12:47.780 Close to half.
00:12:49.320 And Steve, memo to the admiral, okay?
00:12:52.880 China bought Smithfield Foods
00:12:56.760 and basically owns our pork supply chain here on U.S. soil, okay?
00:13:02.680 So, it's like, I used to joke, it's like a Greek name for an STD.
00:13:09.760 I mean, you know, it's like it does nothing, okay?
00:13:13.820 On our watch, we're much more vigilant,
00:13:17.860 but it's run out of treasury, and historically treasury, you know, 0.97
00:13:23.720 He's been like a hooker at a brothel, like all comers. 0.96
00:13:27.340 So that's been the problem. 0.95
00:13:30.100 We've given away so much of our economic capacity that it's become a national security issue.
00:13:38.360 And that's where the Trump administration is different. 0.95
00:13:41.400 That's where this Department of Justice has an antitrust department, which actually has both some teeth in it and some cojones.
00:13:52.300 And what we did yesterday at that press conference, I mean, Todd Blanche was magnificent, as was Brooke Rollins, the secretary of agriculture.
00:14:04.360 And we're moving forward.
00:14:07.120 I'll tell you, Steve, tomorrow there was supposed to be a trial in Minnesota.
00:14:12.280 OK, and I'm going to channel you back to your Harvard Business School days.
00:14:15.940 OK, can you hang on?
00:14:19.560 Can you hang on for one second?
00:14:20.760 We just want to hold you through a break.
00:14:23.600 Dr. Peter Navarro joins us from the White House.
00:14:26.840 Neil McCabe is at the White House.
00:14:28.280 He's also going to join us.
00:14:30.060 We've got Alex DeGrasse on the redistricting wars.
00:14:34.100 That's the number one news, or at least the number one political news story in the world right now.
00:14:39.280 And Steve Cortez is also going to join us.
00:14:42.900 Wade Miller at CRA.
00:14:44.200 So we are jam-packed this afternoon.
00:14:45.960 Short commercial break.
00:14:47.480 Back with Dr. Peter Navarro in a moment.
00:14:50.760 Everyone's focused on how the conflict in the Middle East is raising oil prices,
00:15:03.660 but there's another grim reality to this contention.
00:15:08.340 Oil isn't the only resource being constrained.
00:15:10.740 About one-third of global fertilizer trade happens through this region.
00:15:15.620 And with spring planting season on top of us,
00:15:18.080 American farmers are sounding the alarm.
00:15:20.100 with some saying they can't afford to plant their fields when one piece of the supply chain gets hit
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00:16:23.380 go check it out war room here's your host stephen k bann the rent is too damn high
00:16:32.340 and the food prices are too damn high and the beef is particularly too damn high peter navarro
00:16:38.420 uh the uh our uh trade czar helping president trump with the uh with the tariffs and liberation
00:16:46.600 day and all the good that's come out of that um is with us so talk to me what are you going to do 0.72
00:16:52.340 are you going to break up jbs national you're going to force the brazilians to sell them because 0.87
00:16:56.960 jbs that scumbag is the leading financier of the marxist lula sir and it's also uh one of the big 0.54
00:17:07.160 banks for the k street lobbyists who come around uh and lobby for things like let jbs buy up all 0.93
00:17:14.100 are processing, and they get a tremendous rate of return. I want to tell you about this case.
00:17:22.600 Tomorrow was supposed to be the trial of a company called Agristats. It's straight out of the Harvard
00:17:27.580 Business School class that you probably skipped, and what they do is they use their sophisticated
00:17:34.440 mathematical models to receive data from individual actors in the processing matrix.
00:17:42.060 Think about that. Individual actors. And then they process the data themselves and spit back, allegedly, the monopoly prices that should be charged in the market. You cannot make that up.
00:17:58.140 Now, the toughness of Todd Blanche's antitrust department has persuaded them to settle.
00:18:09.180 So there should be a settlement announced tomorrow, and if not, we're going to trial.
00:18:14.660 But that settlement will not only solve that problem, it should also reveal some of the
00:18:21.060 bad practices of the various actors in the four-firm cartel.
00:18:25.660 So it's a classic, like, get somebody to turn, right?
00:18:30.440 You get them to turn state's witnesses.
00:18:32.640 So this is a big deal.
00:18:33.860 It's the kind of thing we're doing.
00:18:34.820 And Steve, look, in the Trump White House, we are acting as aggressively as we can across all points of that inflation compass.
00:18:45.220 The food issue is hard.
00:18:48.400 The beef issue is the hardest because it's a global problem in terms of supply and demand
00:18:55.740 because of things like drought and this, that, and the other thing.
00:18:58.260 But the things we can control, we will control.
00:19:02.220 And we will control and can control price fixing in that market. 1.00
00:19:07.960 So what we need to do is break up the Brazilians, the vestiges on the table, 0.99
00:19:13.620 and basically decentralize some of this processing. 0.94
00:19:19.580 Brooke Rollins is working on that.
00:19:22.120 So you develop local processing capability at the micro level
00:19:27.100 and disperse some of that power.
00:19:30.220 And it's the kind of thing we're doing.
00:19:31.940 We're doing chicken and pork.
00:19:35.500 We've got whole seafood initiatives, this, that, and the other thing,
00:19:39.380 and then dealing with the housing inflation.
00:19:41.380 The data has been been moving well in our favor. And I had another column in Real Clear Markets
00:19:49.300 today about the trade data that just came out that shows how we are, under Trump policies,
00:19:57.300 rapidly reindustrializing. You know, the tariffs are working, the tax breaks for building factories
00:20:04.520 in america uh are working the deregulation's working um and trump's working so um you know
00:20:12.860 we got a we got a lot on our plate but um that's what we do cra you know where russ vote founded
00:20:19.900 uh the the the team over there that he left behind is absolutely extraordinary so wade miller's
00:20:25.020 doing a fantastic job steve just so you know go ahead oh no he's at omb just amazing and the team
00:20:30.700 he brought. But the guys he left behind have been working on something I will get to. Wade is going
00:20:35.720 to be on at 6.30 this evening on War Room to walk through analysis they've done in an action plan.
00:20:41.800 It turns out, and their analysis, and I'll get this to you, Dr. Navarro, it costs, for a family
00:20:46.880 of four in the United States, it costs about $105,000 to participate in society, you know,
00:20:53.500 for health care and mortgage and energy and, you know, transportation, etc. This is without any
00:20:59.640 frills this is kind of basics basics right they have a program of 63 action items in those five
00:21:07.860 big categories you know rent and mortgages health care that takes that down to forty one thousand
00:21:14.520 dollars it basically saw and they call on the left to really talk about affordability because
00:21:20.380 everything that left wants to talk about is another government program anyway i will share
00:21:23.700 that with you but the audience the people should know we're very focused on this like that because
00:21:29.220 I mean, I've seen Liz come and go from my office, and within 48 hours, when we can, we get them done.
00:21:36.540 So we move in Trump time, Steve.
00:21:38.940 You move in Trump time.
00:21:40.260 Dr. Peter Navarro, where do people go for your content?
00:21:42.880 Sir, you're putting up these videos every day.
00:21:44.480 You're writing these columns for Washington Times, Washington Examiner, and, of course, putting it up on Rookler Politics.
00:21:52.580 Where do folks go to get it all?
00:21:54.900 PeterNavarro.com.
00:21:55.960 That'll take you to the X through social and getter social media, as well as Instagram.
00:22:03.780 We do the 60-second videos, regular column now in RealClearMarkets.
00:22:09.640 Whenever big data reports come out, there's the substack.
00:22:14.700 But you can find all of this.
00:22:17.620 And look, what we do is we take issues, as the war room does,
00:22:22.320 down to the simplest possible level
00:22:26.240 without losing the complexity.
00:22:30.080 Yep.
00:22:30.860 Thank you, sir.
00:22:31.440 Appreciate it.
00:22:31.820 John Tammany, the editor of a real career.
00:22:33.680 Carry on, brother.
00:22:34.180 It's fantastic.
00:22:35.060 Fantastic.
00:22:35.640 He's putting you up.
00:22:36.380 Thank you, sir.
00:22:36.880 Appreciate you and your hard work.
00:22:38.480 Peter Navarro, Dr. Peter Navarro with the White House.
00:22:41.100 Let's go.
00:22:42.480 I have Neil McCabe.
00:22:43.460 Neil McCabe.
00:22:44.900 Neil, I was struck.
00:22:48.540 Rubio, I thought, did a very solid job.
00:22:50.500 I handled a lot of questions.
00:22:51.820 caroline's out on maternity um the one thing i was that jumped off at me was that he said a number
00:22:58.560 of times that epic fury is over i thought it was really a notification that had been
00:23:04.100 the ceasefire gave you more weeks or more time uh what is happening here it's a pretty bold
00:23:10.340 announcement sir yeah it's interesting because in the morning we had uh hegseth and kane sort
00:23:18.340 of giving the operational and tactical update of how the sort of the operation, the military
00:23:24.300 operations are going. And Rubio came in today and at the White House really dominated the reporters
00:23:31.820 in that briefing room like we haven't seen in a long time from a cabinet officer. And he laid out
00:23:37.520 sort of the geopolitical understanding of the Trump administration and just sort of setting
00:23:43.080 down the markers. Epic Fury is over. We are now in Project Freedom. And he reframed Project Freedom
00:23:51.500 from really what it was described sort of this morning with Hegseth and Cain as a military
00:23:57.340 operation. He described it as defensive but also humanitarian because of the thousands, 23,000
00:24:06.880 merchant marine who are sort of trapped in the Persian Gulf behind that Iranian blockade
00:24:13.060 and the hundreds of ships.
00:24:14.820 He talked about the 10 merchant marines who have been killed so far by the Iranians.
00:24:19.600 He talked about how these ships are running out of potable water.
00:24:23.120 They're running out of food.
00:24:24.500 And he really created a new construct for the operations in what was Operation Epic Fury, Steve.
00:24:34.200 Did he give any timeline?
00:24:35.680 You know, today we talked about Bowling.
00:24:37.780 There were 11 ships, I think, went out the past 24 hours.
00:24:41.120 There was four before that.
00:24:42.660 Did he give any indication of the tempo?
00:24:46.060 Are we sending in more resources?
00:24:47.860 Is it going to be 11 a day?
00:24:49.160 Are we going to double that?
00:24:50.060 Because even if you double it, you still have, I think, 1,500 ships, vessels locked up there.
00:24:56.680 It's going to take you a while, sir.
00:25:01.020 No, he didn't go into that.
00:25:02.400 And they're going to be taking that what's called the southern route, which is along the coast of Oman.
00:25:08.320 And that's the one that's controlled by the United States. 0.90
00:25:11.680 It's on the opposite side of those Iranian islands where you have all the mosquito boats and the drone bases. 0.90
00:25:17.760 But obviously that's going to speed up. 0.52
00:25:20.280 And once you see some momentum, you know, and he also reached out to our allies as if they're going to show up.
00:25:26.560 But once you see some momentum, then it'll sort of take on a life of its own.
00:25:30.640 and people will see a light at the end of the tunnel.
00:25:33.100 But right now, you have basically hundreds of ships trapped in a bottle.
00:25:37.820 Steve?
00:25:38.880 Did he – I didn't see the entire thing.
00:25:41.360 Did anybody get a question to him about his upcoming trip this week to –
00:25:45.820 I think he's leaving tomorrow.
00:25:46.940 I think the Pope's on Thursday and Maloney is on Friday, the head of the Italian government.
00:25:55.980 No questions about – he mentioned he was going to Italy.
00:25:59.020 No questions on Italy.
00:26:00.640 He did speak about his visit to the Holy Father, but he really sort of downplayed it as not really crisis management.
00:26:08.020 And he basically said that both he and the president don't understand why the Holy Father or anyone else would be comfortable with the Iranians having nuclear weapons that could strike Catholics.
00:26:23.120 And so the question was, they asked the secretary, hey, what about Trump saying that the Pope wanted or the Pope was encouraging attacks on Catholics?
00:26:34.300 You know how they sort of twisted up.
00:26:36.460 But Rubio is very good at untangling, restating.
00:26:40.320 And that's what he's basically doing for an hour in the briefing room, Steve.
00:26:45.880 Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:26:47.520 There's still this thing of the pixie dust and the nuclear dust.
00:26:50.500 epic fury is over but if you believe president trump and rubio of course rubio told us that we
00:26:59.220 we launched the attack because the imminent attack on israel but the objective was to make
00:27:05.340 sure they can never have a nuclear weapon nuclear program that hasn't totally been finalized why is
00:27:10.820 epic fury done then did they anybody ask him that nobody asked him but what you're really saying now
00:27:18.900 Steve, is what was sort of one large, big, big, beautiful effort against Iran is now being broken 0.66
00:27:26.500 up into compartments. And so you're going to have the Project Freedom compartment. You have a Fury 0.56
00:27:31.680 Operation Epic Fury. The uranium is going to be another project and they're just going to give it
00:27:37.440 a name and call it something else. But he was absolutely forthright that they are not going
00:27:42.460 to allow the Iranians to have that 0.97
00:27:44.540 Iranian weapon program,
00:27:46.980 Steve. Real quickly, 0.91
00:27:48.660 what's your social media? How do people get to you, Neil?
00:27:52.180 You can find me on all the socials at
00:27:54.100 Reporter McCabe, Steve.
00:27:56.180 Neil McCabe, thank you for covering today
00:27:58.260 the White House Press Conference. Appreciate you,
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00:28:08.160 posse is at the tip
00:28:09.700 of the tip of the tip of the
00:28:12.040 spear is the redistricting wars. Alex DeGrasse joins us on the other side.
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00:29:48.340 The Supreme Court's decision to gut the Voting Rights Act is an abomination.
00:29:53.320 Here in the land of Lincoln, we're fighting back, upholding our values, and safeguarding democracy.
00:29:59.720 Also today, House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries says he is sending New York Congressman Joseph Morrell to Albany to discuss redrawing that state's congressional map, saying, quote, Democrats refuse to unilaterally disarm.
00:30:13.740 No, they shouldn't.
00:30:15.500 No, they shouldn't.
00:30:16.700 Look, I just think this is very frustrating.
00:30:20.920 That's how you start the engine.
00:30:22.400 No, they should not unilaterally disarm.
00:30:25.740 But to be very clear, this is about power.
00:30:27.340 This is all about power. And at the end of the day, Republicans are able to do what they are doing because they control a number of state legislatures.
00:30:34.900 They control a number of governorships. Most of them. And most of them. Exactly.
00:30:38.920 And in America, America's policy is made in the state legislatures. This is exactly I'm going to keep saying it.
00:30:43.760 What happened after Reconstruction, the 14th and 15th amendments were never repealed.
00:30:47.920 They just stopped being enforced. And the courts aided and abetted in that. 0.66
00:30:51.580 The state legislatures aided and abetted in that. The governors, the business community aided and abetted in that.
00:30:56.960 And it took almost 88 years to get back to a place, and it took the Voting Rights Act.
00:31:02.400 Now we're in the same place.
00:31:03.820 Section 2, sure, is intact on paper, but the states have moved with record speed to undo
00:31:10.680 the progress that was made in those 87, 88 years in between Reconstruction and the Voting
00:31:15.000 Rights Act. 0.75
00:31:15.660 This is about power. 0.99
00:31:17.020 It's about black political power. 1.00
00:31:18.440 It's about the people of color in this country having a say, and they are attacking it directly. 0.96
00:31:23.300 How this might affect the midterms, November? 0.99
00:31:27.880 Well, it'll have a modest impact on the midterms because Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee could do away with a black majority seat each.
00:31:36.620 And three seats is a big deal when Republicans are sitting on such a thin majority.
00:31:40.840 It's unlikely to save the majority from from falling into Democrats' hands, given that there are at least 15 Republican seats that are in deep, deep trouble.
00:31:51.260 But this has wider ranging implications.
00:31:54.880 This has changed the way that gerrymandering is practiced. 0.57
00:31:59.400 It's gone from kind of a clever, time-honored, smoke-filled, bipartisan tradition to an out-in-the-open, out-of-control conflagration of disenfranchisement where Republican states are eradicating Democrats and Black Democrats in these previously VRA-protected seats. 0.62
00:32:20.400 And we could see Democrats retaliate with even more Rorschach test gerrymanders in the north. 0.70
00:32:27.260 Also about how the country sees itself and it is always seen itself primarily as a white nation.
00:32:37.580 And so consequently, all efforts in the course of history has been to disabuse itself, citizens disabusing it of that notion,
00:32:49.740 Because we are pluralistic. We are a place that welcomes everybody.
00:32:53.780 So you can't be all one thing if you're welcoming the world to your backyard.
00:32:58.860 You can't be all one thing if at some point there are more black people in a state than there are white people in the state.
00:33:05.380 Right. In the South at the time. And that's why they didn't want to count slaves as persons, because it's shifted to your point, the balance of power.
00:33:14.260 So what this is also about in the power grab, it's about the rise of the South.
00:33:20.660 Again, they promised it was going to happen, and it is.
00:33:23.940 And you've got a complicit, compliant Republican Party that is aiding and abetting in the rise of an old South that the country worked through a long civil war to move us off of.
00:33:36.320 And as if on cue, Ron DeSantis wants to remind you that Florida is in fact part of the American South.
00:33:41.500 This is what they did today.
00:33:42.560 DeSantis revealed a new map. Legislative committee hearings were held on Tuesday.
00:33:47.320 The state House and Senate approved the map Wednesday.
00:33:50.140 There was virtually no opportunity for public participation.
00:33:53.360 You see the smears right there on the South and the patriotic South? 0.98
00:33:59.140 It makes you want more than ever to smash all this and take every freaking seat. 0.97
00:34:03.540 It's totally and completely unconstitutional. And the South has been suppressed. 0.98
00:34:07.780 Southerners have been suppressed. Their votes have been suppressed.
00:34:10.640 Their voices have been suppressed for decade after decade after decade after decade.
00:34:16.240 Because President Trump won, when people run around smack talking, just remember, hey, there are greater themes going on here.
00:34:23.520 We control the Supreme Court because of the Trump victory in 16 and then coming back in 20 or in 24.
00:34:31.580 So this is the fruits of Trump's victory, and it's a massive victory, 6-3.
00:34:36.900 Alex Segras, this is not only the number one political story in the country, probably the world,
00:34:42.840 but I have never seen the Democrats, having watched these guys up close and personal now for 10, 12, 15 years,
00:34:49.900 they are in full meltdown about this, are they not, sir?
00:34:53.420 Yeah, I mean, it's probably the biggest meltdown other than, yeah, I guess Trump's victories, of course.
00:34:58.840 But, you know, we've been talking about it for four years, Steve, so they should watch the show, of course,
00:35:03.980 So at least they can mentally prepare themselves. But, you know, actually, it's funny that they're mentioning the Constitution and the founders, because obviously, you know, what we had in place was totally unconstitutional. And it was a 6-3 ruling. And also our founders and framers of the Constitution were really clear that they don't want a majority of the masses.
00:35:24.080 They don't you shouldn't be able to consolidate power in the cities or something like that.
00:35:28.700 And so that's why, you know, it's their problem that the Democrats have reduced themselves to a party that is really only competitive in, you know, dense suburbs and in the cities.
00:35:40.500 I mean, that's their problem. And if they happen to know where it's illegal, they only competitive where there's illegal alien invaders and or universities have tons of foreign students.
00:35:50.400 university if you it's the coastal areas in the big cities where all these illegal aliens like
00:35:55.620 new york city and la who in the hell knows who votes there and uh and then you've got the
00:36:00.640 university towns you look at the little patches of blue in austin or in these university towns
00:36:05.480 because they've got tons of foreign students and marxist professors that have warped these kids
00:36:10.260 i want to go back to when they're all this started really this modern version of it started
00:36:16.180 with Hochul back in 2022 when you said, hey, these guys in New York are just grabbing seats
00:36:23.560 randomly because they control things. We got to get focused and we have the opportunity to pick
00:36:28.040 up eight or 10 seats. You went to war. The war room was your platform. 11 seats changed hands.
00:36:34.860 The Democrats took three and we took eight. And those eight were the difference between us taking
00:36:40.020 the House and not taking the House. This gave us control of the House of Representatives and took
00:36:43.880 it away from nancy pelosi we learned a lesson redistricting wars are the predicate before you
00:36:49.920 get into particularly midterms you've got to win the redistricting wars sir yeah that's right i
00:36:56.520 mean it was a huge lesson and then i think you know that was going to 22 and then you saw 23
00:37:01.160 um they tried to mid-deck mid-decade that's their term mid-decade redistrict in new york we ended up
00:37:07.660 suing about it they did end up changing the map they actually weakened brandon williams's seat
00:37:12.700 by about six or seven points in a compromise, which is a bad compromise, but I guess was better
00:37:20.040 than what they were offering at the time in New York. So these guys are all crooks. This whole 0.98
00:37:24.380 thing is manufactured and phony. Once we get to the heart of it, Steve, and we go after what you
00:37:29.200 mentioned, which is the millions of illegal immigrants that are founding the basis of the
00:37:34.900 census. And then of course, the equation that's used to figure out the house seats. We're talking
00:37:40.340 about another 25, 35 seats, probably minimum, to be honest with you, that's included with the
00:37:46.120 demographic shifts legally across states, right? People moving to red states from blue states. I
00:37:51.400 mean, the next four years, it's going to be continued legal warfare while we try to juice
00:37:58.060 this thing through. Not only is the next presidential really important in the context of the census,
00:38:02.220 but of course, you know, President Trump has ordered a census. I'm unsure where that is,
00:38:06.780 But that's super important that we rectify not only the last one, but certainly that we work to put in place for the next one.
00:38:14.100 And obviously that we hold the presidency, since that will be who oversees it.
00:38:19.720 What's the latest update? I know there's a firestorm down in South Carolina.
00:38:23.180 Are there other things happening? Where do we need the war in posse?
00:38:26.680 President Trump is now fully engaged in this.
00:38:29.120 We've also got the vote in Indiana, which is a sore topic for us because we thought we had this thing pretty well handled before Las Vidas. 0.88
00:38:36.780 And these guys came in and tried to be, you know, tried to play the heavies.
00:38:41.200 And, of course, now we're going to have zero pickups there because of that.
00:38:45.620 But what's going on in the rest, particularly South Carolina?
00:38:50.860 So it sounds like South Carolina President Trump spoke directly, I believe, with state senators.
00:38:56.940 They've got the votes in the statehouse, but the state Senate's unclear.
00:39:00.180 So I think that seems to be the major focal point.
00:39:03.200 And I think for the posse to be locked in on the South Carolina Republican State Senate.
00:39:08.300 And I think, hey, this is a great exercise, Steve, because you really kind of learn like who's with us, who's not.
00:39:13.920 And some of these, you know, red states, you've got these state representatives.
00:39:18.000 You look at Indiana. I mean, these guys are a disaster. I mean, I really can't believe it.
00:39:22.540 As a New York, you know, originally New York Republican moved to Florida.
00:39:25.940 I mean, you know, at least, you know, when you're a Republican, either they're honest about it or they're not or they're maybe a moderate or they're not.
00:39:32.040 and you kind of know what you get.
00:39:33.140 But with some of these guys in the South,
00:39:34.420 you really got to do a full look
00:39:36.060 at really who these people are
00:39:38.500 at your local state level,
00:39:39.900 because it's key.
00:39:41.420 And so there's no excuse in South Carolina.
00:39:43.460 I mean, this is critical.
00:39:44.820 I mean, I think we're on track, Steve,
00:39:46.860 for that 10 pickup,
00:39:48.400 which was the goal, by the way,
00:39:49.540 that I set out and we talked about, right?
00:39:51.380 10 is solid.
00:39:52.580 I think if we hold Virginia,
00:39:53.980 we could be looking at 14.
00:39:56.320 That's kind of based off
00:39:57.700 what's been sort of in motion
00:39:59.160 that does include South Carolina,
00:40:00.660 does include only one in louisiana um and so that's where we're at so i mean i feel great
00:40:07.180 about it this hang on this the south carolina situation is emblematic of the problems that we
00:40:13.580 have like in georgia that you know i think president trump was on the horn with a group
00:40:17.760 called the couple of senators but i think it's the senate a leader down there that's the obstruction
00:40:23.060 he's already talked to mcmaster's and these guys go out of their way to come up with every excuse
00:40:28.240 that's Clyburn's what we're talking about in South Carolina is Clyburn's seat is it not
00:40:32.400 yeah that's right why would we not want to take that's how Biden got in there
00:40:37.760 you know Caroline's is Benny Thompson now Benny Thompson should be the top of my list because
00:40:43.440 he's one of the guys that sent me to prison he's not I mean I'd love just in logic it ought to go
00:40:48.580 but Clyburn's seat is totally unconstitutional and he sits on that perch like some grand
00:40:55.220 political strategist. He made Biden essentially the Democratic nominee, correct? This ought to be
00:41:00.120 something that conservatives and Republicans in South Carolina ought to be a once-in-a-lifetime
00:41:07.020 opportunity to do this and to fulfill the promise of the Constitution, shouldn't it? And they come
00:41:12.700 up with a main and one excuses. It's always a million different things. We didn't say all this
00:41:18.040 was easy. If it was easy, you know, you wouldn't have the position you're in. These people are
00:41:23.160 supposed to be able to do hard things. That's when there's positions of leadership. And the
00:41:27.600 president of the United States, you know, running a war, trying to solve all the issues with the
00:41:34.060 economy, trying to turn the country around, trying to fight the people that are trying to assassinate
00:41:38.980 him. You know, it seems like every other day he shouldn't have to be whipping votes and calling
00:41:44.560 state senators in South Carolina. This is when, once again, we put the entire burden on President
00:41:50.720 trump i this upsets me knowing and this is cliburn c cliburn first off it's about the constitution
00:41:58.420 but number two let's face it cliburn it should be our number one political target should he should
00:42:04.560 this is payback for everything he did to force the illegitimate biden regime down the throats
00:42:11.000 of the american people in those four years it's called payback yeah i mean what i'm learning steve
00:42:17.620 is a lot of these Republicans in general, I mean, they've got all these deals, of course,
00:42:21.520 you know, they've got deals with lobbyists that have deals with Democrats that have deals with,
00:42:25.900 you know, they want both sides. I mean, we see it in New York, you know, you've got issues,
00:42:30.480 you've got areas where it's Republican, but maybe they've got one Democrat,
00:42:34.280 because they want to get the gravy train, they want access to both parties. So it's really
00:42:38.300 actually disgusting. And it has to stop. And it is all about the Constitution. It's totally
00:42:43.000 clear cuts. Supreme Court ruled. You know, all these guys in the South, they said, well, we're
00:42:47.380 waiting, waiting for the Supreme Court. We said, oh, of course it's coming. We're going to win this
00:42:51.240 thing because the basis is clear. And so now it's not only, I mean, these are unconstitutional. I
00:42:56.660 love President Trump's truth. I mean, why would you want to have an election or how can you have
00:43:01.000 an election where according to the Supreme Court, there's unconstitutional seats, seats that are
00:43:06.720 drawn by race. So it's crazy to me, but I think we're going to get this thing done, Steve.
00:43:12.880 I think this will play a major role in saving the country.
00:43:16.180 Things are hanging in the balance of the midterms, you know, of course, just historically, and everything is going to count.
00:43:22.900 Hang on one second.
00:43:24.660 Just hang on.
00:43:25.180 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:43:26.160 Steve Cortez is also going to join us, Mike Lindell, and Brother Miller from CRA, this major, not just report, but whole line of attack that they've got on affordability,
00:43:38.620 on the cost of what it takes a family to live in this country the right way.
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00:46:22.060 You talk about local deals. Remember, we started this in 22. The guys in Tallahassee said, no,
00:46:27.480 we've already made our deals for this session. All the deals are in place. If you start doing
00:46:32.680 it at a federal level, it's going to change everything and new deals are going to have to
00:46:35.860 be cut. Locally, we're not going to do that. But you told me that. I go, are you kidding me? Is
00:46:40.560 that actually what they say? And we had to go in there and get a couple of three seats
00:46:45.680 I think four seats back then, and then do it again.
00:46:49.540 But you're right.
00:46:50.300 These local guys, they just want to hunker down and do what's right for them on the local level
00:46:54.960 and not worry about the Constitution or the country itself.
00:46:58.960 And you're seeing this in South Carolina.
00:47:00.860 Alex, your Twitter feed, along with Caroline Renz and Sean Spicer, has kind of been bomber command.
00:47:05.780 People want to go to that.
00:47:06.800 I know there's big news tonight about Indiana.
00:47:09.020 It'll be later.
00:47:10.220 Where do people go to keep up with you?
00:47:12.920 Yeah, first of all, make sure you get out the vote in Indiana.
00:47:15.060 That's obviously huge. Also, early voting is ongoing in Louisiana.
00:47:19.060 So you've got Julia Letlow there. That's huge. That's Trump's endorsement.
00:47:22.680 Knockout Cassidy. But I'm at Degrass 81 on X.
00:47:26.440 Caroline and Sean got updates. We're going to keep things working.
00:47:29.160 South Carolina is the main focal point. Now we'll continue to have updates.
00:47:32.280 But thanks, Steve, and thank you to the posse.
00:47:34.920 No, when the president's taking that kind of time, when the president's taking that kind of time, it's pretty extraordinary.
00:47:41.520 So thank you, sir.
00:47:42.360 Yeah, it's really something. Thanks, Steve.
00:47:45.060 He's talking to groups of state senators, which is fine.
00:47:48.140 But, I mean, the guy's got a couple, three things to do.
00:47:51.460 Steve Cortez, and Steve, I'm going to ask you to stay through the top of the 6 o'clock hour.
00:47:55.980 Let me just get your thoughts on the redistricting wars and how this is so important for us right now.
00:48:05.160 And President Trump basically having to whip his own votes here is once again where people are just, oh, well, you know, let Trump take care of it.
00:48:13.240 Let Trump take care of it.
00:48:14.300 that's that's the guys fighting a war fighting all the geopolitical situation we're going to talk
00:48:19.520 in a moment about the pope he's got rubio going to talk to the pope he's doing everything in the
00:48:24.700 world he doesn't have time to talk to state senators in south carolina that shouldn't be
00:48:30.040 part of his job description to to take an unconstitutional district and flip it to a
00:48:36.880 constitutional district sir yeah you know you're exactly correct by the way the point is these
00:48:42.220 districts are not valid anyway. They're not valid for two reasons. Number one, the last census was
00:48:46.960 not done correctly. And that's not my opinion. That's the Census Bureau itself admitting that
00:48:51.940 it wasn't done correctly. And then on top of that, because of a perversion of the Voting Rights Act
00:48:57.040 over decades, we know that we have Americans unconstitutionally and unjustly balkanized into
00:49:03.420 effectively racial silos, which is totally unconstitutional, which doesn't match up in
00:49:08.700 any way with American principles. So it's an imperative that we absolutely now redraw these
00:49:14.920 districts. But you're right. We don't have that sense of urgency in far too many state capitals
00:49:19.480 around the country. And it seems like sometimes, Steve, the reddest states are actually the laziest 0.99
00:49:24.080 when it comes to these kinds of tasks, which is really infuriating.
00:49:28.580 No, that's the thing is that you're now down in Tennessee. You see, the president's got to call
00:49:32.760 bill lee and say hey can and that's cohen these guys you got benny thompson you have cliper and
00:49:39.040 you have cohen i mean these ought to be top targets regardless the fact that they're an
00:49:44.560 unconstitutional district just asked to but give people a minute on the way things roll in chicago
00:49:50.080 because now they're saying hey we're going to take all the district all the republican districts in
00:49:54.220 in illinois they play a different the democrats play a different game don't they they certainly
00:49:59.820 do, and they mean business. And by the way, we can learn from them as far as tactics. We don't
00:50:03.260 want to learn from them on principles at all, right, because they have none. But regarding
00:50:07.320 tactics, there are things we can learn from them. It kind of reminds me, for example, of Nancy
00:50:10.840 Pelosi. You know, I have to tell you, as horrible as she was for America, there were times when I
00:50:15.200 would say, man, if we had a Nancy Pelosi on our side, if we had that kind of a Speaker of the
00:50:19.340 House who's a gangster, who used, even though she's not from Chicago, she used a lot of Chicago 1.00
00:50:23.300 tactics. So you're right. Now in Illinois, they're talking about, and the map of Illinois is already
00:50:29.060 laughable. It is so ludicrously gerrymandered, but they might go even further. They want to
00:50:34.940 one up Virginia right now. And what Virginia did with Northern Virginia, where Northern Virginia
00:50:39.760 now dominates the entirety of the state, the entirety of Old Dominion, Chicago is probably
00:50:45.060 going to end up doing to the rest of Illinois. So when they bring a gun to the fight, we can't
00:50:50.660 show up with just our fists, right? We've got to at least show up with a knife, preferably with a
00:50:54.560 gun when they show up in the gunfight with a gun. Are they proposing, somebody told me they're
00:51:00.180 proposing, they're trying to work a map that would take all Republican representation in Illinois and
00:51:05.880 get rid of it. I mean, Pritzker wants to go, he wants to top what Newsom did in California, correct?
00:51:12.680 Yeah, no, that's exactly correct. And the only way to do it, by the way, because the state is so red
00:51:16.920 once you get out of the Chicago area, is you're going to literally have to draw a bunch of, you
00:51:20.860 know, sort of snake districts that have enough of Chicago and the Chicago area, the Chicago suburbs
00:51:25.960 to get them to get the district blue. And then you're going to have to go down and disenfranchise
00:51:31.000 people downstate. I mean, there will be some it's already a laughable map. It will become truly
00:51:36.400 absurd if Chicago, in fact, does it. But yes, they absolutely are talking about it. I'll actually be
00:51:41.380 in Chicago the next couple of days. I hope I can learn more about it. But my point here is when
00:51:46.140 the Democrats have power, Steve, they are gangsters, okay? They leverage power when they have it. And
00:51:52.640 we don't want to mimic their lack of principles and their soullessness, but we can learn from
00:51:57.720 their tactics. And when we earn power, when we have earned it from the people, it's time to
00:52:02.320 employ it correctly and ruthlessly. Amen. Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:52:08.940 Hour two is going to start momentarily. Steve Cortez is going to stick with me.
00:52:13.540 We've got a lot to go over.
00:52:16.320 And Wade Miller is going to join me.
00:52:18.260 I want to really get into this whole thing about affordability and CRA, Russ Votes' shop that he set up.
00:52:25.120 Wade Miller and the team running it now have come up with a brilliant, not just analysis of what ails us,
00:52:30.720 but an action plan to really help the American family.
00:52:34.520 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:52:35.720 We're going to leave you with the right stuff.
00:52:36.960 We'll be back in just a moment.
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