00:08:10.440So this really knocked me out of my chair when I saw this, because Anthropic, you know, and I don't know everything about Anthropic.
00:08:20.440I know there was a big controversy with the Department of War and Anthropic using Claude.
00:08:26.400But when you look at just on their website, they're touting that they're fighting terrorism and they're fighting extremism.
00:08:34.380And the partners that they're working with on that effort are organizations that have cited the Southern Poverty Law Center, that have staff at the Southern Poverty Law Center, that, you know, are tied in.
00:08:49.280And, you know, I keep going back to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:08:52.060I wrote a book about it mainly because I was shocked to see the undue influence that this organization has.
00:09:09.120The reason it's sitting on $800 million in cash, the people on the left are not stupid.0.98
00:09:13.420The Southern Poverty Law Center was built as a railhead that it then could take its content, right, this content that others, the conservative movement, that you're a hater, you're a racist, you can't be acceptable.0.96
00:09:26.040It's the reason that you see down in Georgia, so many of the establishment country club Republicans are absolutely terrified of something like the Southern Poverty Law Center saying, you're not a good person, you're a racist, you're a nationalist, you're an extremist.
00:09:42.080The construct of the Southern Poverty Law Center was perfectly designed by the left to do exactly the job it was supposed to do, and it did it damn well.
00:09:51.300The fact that it's un-American, it's radical, it hates what we stand for is the heart of the problem.
00:09:58.000But this thing, and that's what your book shows, this just, Morris Dees, it started as something different than it became.
00:10:04.360And it became a railhead for all these billionaires to put money.
00:10:08.200Look, dude, it's got $800 million in cash or $740 million in cash.
00:10:13.760Those people were putting in because they looked at this as the gift that would keep on giving for many, many decades ahead, correct?
00:10:20.080Oh, yes, absolutely. And there are so many different aspects with the Southern Poverty
00:10:27.240Law Center, but the focus here is on how they're impacting AI. And so the SPLC, as you mentioned,
00:10:34.180is a trailhead for the left's demonization of conservatives. And what you see the SPLC do so
00:10:40.980well is they compare mainstream conservative ideas to the Ku Klux Klan and to white supremacy.
00:11:16.060They're the one that started everything, but right now, there are many offshoots, like the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which was founded by two former SPLC employees, one of whom, by the way, Heidi Bayrick, was the leader of the SPLC's hate map for years, and it seems she left the SPLC because she thought the SPLC wasn't radical enough in demonizing conservatives.
00:11:43.780And that's a criticism that you're hearing from other former SPLC staff.
00:12:08.800And then they have a list of everybody who is spouting what they call the great replacement theory, which they all push as white supremacist, evil, every name in the book.
00:12:22.620And never mind the fact that, oh, by the way, in the last four years, Biden did open the border.
00:12:27.760And it really seems as though the left is trying to replace the Americans here.
00:12:32.880And I don't think this has anything necessarily to do with race.
00:12:54.500They have a list of every Republican politician who ever pushed the great replacement narrative.
00:13:00.720And on there, you have people like Lindsey Graham, as well as people like Ted Cruz.
00:13:06.500And so, you know, you have people who are actually fighting, and then you have some people who are a little bit more wishy-washy.
00:13:12.420But if you are anywhere in the Republican Party, in the conservative movement, they're going to find a way to demonize you.0.90
00:13:20.880And this is one of the people who's advising Anthropic.0.86
00:13:24.260And there are three others I should get into.
00:13:27.920Go ahead and give them to me on this side of the break.
00:13:30.500We'll hold you to the right after the break, but give me the other three.
00:13:33.820Yeah, the other three are American University's Peril, which is the polarization and extremism research lab, and then Middlebury College's University's center on combating terrorism.
00:13:50.400And then the big tech companies propped up this other thing called GCFT, which is a crazy acronym, but they are citing the SPLC.
00:14:02.060So, like, all of these things are leftist biased against, and many of them have directly attacked Moms for Liberty in particular.
00:14:11.520And Charlie Kirk, maybe, here's what, what's your Twitter feed?
00:14:15.440I want people now to go get your writings in your Twitter feed.
00:14:18.480I think you've got an 11 tweet trail on this.
00:22:12.060We have the real evidence, you know, then once it's the I'm sure the FBI can and the DOJ can basically have a very strong case against multiple people based on what happened in 2020.
00:22:28.860So I would say that you're saying and you believe that's what that's what this criminal grand jury is about right now.
00:22:34.700And you're saying the next step, you're seeing them going to the criminal grand jury, starting with the lower level people.
00:22:39.780But you think that's where the indictment is going to come from?
00:22:43.660Yes, I do. I do think that it might take a little bit of time because they've got a massive amount of evidence.
00:22:51.520But there's quite a few situations and different individuals, I think, that have a lot of explaining to do.
00:23:00.220And they're going to roll the junior people on the senior people going on.
00:23:03.800I think it goes all the way to Kemp and Ruffinsburg and all of them.
00:23:07.040Garland, where do people go to your social media, your website to follow this?
00:23:11.280It's of extreme interest to the war and posse.
00:24:42.260And so what the facts are about Rick Jackson are that he literally has funded beyond what most people can imagine, pretty much the anti-MAGA, anti-freedom syndicate from start to finish.
00:24:59.540And, you know, we often hear follow the money, follow the money.
00:25:05.300He has supported Cheney, Bush, Kemp, Haley, Duncan. I mean, I think, I mean, correct me someone, but he may be the largest donor for Jeff Duncan, who's our former lieutenant governor, who is now running as governor in the primary for as a Democrat.
00:25:25.240and he has pumped his funds into these candidates that are opposite what most of the conservative
00:25:34.280base, you know, votes for, is committed to ideals that we hold to. And, you know, we talk about MAGA
00:25:41.680and I need everybody to remember, like MAGA is based on the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
00:25:48.840That's what President Trump breathed life into. He kind of brought that back as us getting back
00:25:53.020to our roots. And so Rick Jackson funds all the people that are big corporate money. You know,
00:26:00.660he claims to be an outsider, but yet he's gaming the system like like the establishment does just
00:26:07.320dropping a bunch of money on it and hoping people don't, you know, look at the facts and see what's
00:26:13.000going on. So we we are fortunate that we do have a candidate that is MAGA that we have benefited
00:26:20.600from greatly in the state of Georgia. Lieutenant Governor Burt Jones has presided over the most
00:26:26.600conservative Senate chamber in the state's history. We do have options other than a bunch
00:26:33.840of money and somebody stepping into the game to kind of clear the field. I mean, Burt championed
00:26:38.200the Riley Gaines Act. He has put money back in voters' pockets, you know, with cutting through
00:26:44.060bureaucracy with his red tape rollback, which just robs taxpayers and voters of their funds.
00:26:51.940He's protected our freedoms. I mean, he wielded unprecedented procedural power to see that
00:26:59.600Fonnie Willis was forced to testify. I mean, when silence ruled from most of the members of
00:27:06.160the General Assembly and the executive branch here in Georgia, Burt spoke out. He's a justice
00:27:12.660guy he's a freedom guy he has a record um rather than just a record of checks that he's written he
00:27:17.920has a record of actually doing things and um we we need to uh make sure that you know george has
00:27:25.600been a battleground uh for a long time uh for the establishment to come in and absolutely transform
00:27:31.140the state from red to purple to blue and i feel like if uh rick jackson's elected instead of
00:27:39.620Kirk Jones, that's probably going to be the final death blow.
00:27:42.860And I don't say that to exaggerate, but that will probably be the death blow for the state of Georgia.
00:34:13.520Tonight, we'll have a report. The Freedom Caucus down in South Carolina is hugely in back of this, getting rid of Clyburn's district. We'll get more to that.
00:34:21.740Joy Pullman, over at the Federalist, you had a magnificent piece that really, because MSNBC, you know, they're interviewing Pence. They're getting Pence on Meet the Press everywhere. He's the man of the moment.
00:34:34.560You saw what happened in Indiana last night, but a lot of that had to do with money. Of course, it was President Trump, but it was, you know, this issue about they fought it. But Pence puts himself out as representing a conservative movement and a conservative cause that's vibrant and robust. Your article, you disagree, ma'am. Can you walk us through it?
00:34:55.220well mike pence really is able to recruit a decent amount of money and attention from the
00:35:01.800same people who really want to tamp down on what the voters want um but he really is not able to
00:35:08.100have much purchase among voters and these resounding results in indiana from tuesday night
00:35:12.740are really just another indication of that um it was just you know knock down drag out you know win
00:35:18.500for uh really transforming the party in the state you had these two wings of course the usual
00:35:24.280insurgent conservative wing supported by Governor Braun, U.S. Senator Jim Banks, really a kind of a
00:35:30.680vibrant side of the party attempting to transform it. People will say kind of in a more Trumpy
00:35:34.980direction, but I would actually say more of direction along the policies and the transaction
00:35:39.680and the delivery that Trump excites and gives to voters. And then the other side of the party,
00:35:45.460of course, is kind of the people who really just get elected in order to continue getting
00:35:49.660campaign donations from local businesses. They don't really have an agenda. They don't understand
00:35:55.020the existential crisis sees, many of them compounding that the country is in, and the
00:36:00.700really need and desire and urgency for having serious, sustained action to meet those problems.
00:36:08.540So, you know, Mike Pence really represents kind of the past of the GOP where voters are done with
00:36:12.760that. I do think people respect him for his personal integrity. It is absolutely a great
00:36:18.780thing, not to sleep around with other women. But voters also can see that there are other virtues1.00
00:36:24.100that are important than just temperance. One of the four cardinal virtues is also courage.
00:36:29.820And courage is something that President Trump absolutely has in spades and that voters are
00:36:34.100really responding to as the virtue of the moment that they want to be following into some victories
00:36:39.140over Democrats that really want to destroy our country, destroy our future, destroy our children.
00:36:44.400And so it's been really kind of a motivating moment to see these victories in Indiana,
00:36:48.240The people who voted against redistricting, they were listening to the wrong side of the voters.
00:36:52.580They were really, I would say, misled by local and corporate media, as well as the activism among the Democrat side to really cloud and confuse their minds.
00:37:00.800And they should have been, you know, having better listening sessions because clearly their voters really, you know, want a different direction for the party and that to be all the way down to the local level.
00:37:09.820I want to go into that for a second because Pence, when he's out now, very aggressive, he's raised some money through some corporate donations and big donors.
00:37:17.820to set up this kind of think tank, but he presents himself that he's an alternative
00:37:22.940to the MAGA movement. And what he represents and what his policies really represent
00:37:27.720is a call to the highest virtues of the kind of classic conservative movement. And he holds out
00:37:33.880that in Indiana, you know, he speaks for Hoosiers, that this is the Hoosier way. Do you find that
00:37:39.480to be, because I know there was $13.5 million spent in this, about the state Senate, but it
00:37:43.960came down to this redistricting fight, and particularly guys like Banks, who are at the
00:37:48.780forefront of it, of just a different philosophy of going forward. So does Pence really represent
00:37:54.380the Hoosier way? Does he really represent a robust alternative, a vibrant alternative to
00:38:00.180the MAGA movement? Well, I do think that Mike Pence had a lot of love here in Indiana in his
00:38:05.780early days, when in fact, he was really fighting for and delivering the conservative policies that
00:38:10.920people here really resound around. Things that kind of, for example, you know, still continue
00:38:16.280to elect people in his former congressional district. The voters there really respond to
00:38:20.860that sort of vision of America. But as he kind of ascended up the political ladder, his ambition
00:38:25.740really started to destroy the virtues that people were voting for him and, you know, to achieve.
00:38:31.360And I think a signal moment of this was in the 2015 RFRA, you know, Religious Freedom Restoration
00:38:37.240Act fight. Mike Pence was at the helm of the state when we became a watershed moment for the entire
00:38:43.260censorship industrial complex attached to all the LGBT queer, you know, sort of things. He, Mr.0.98
00:38:50.680Virtues, led his entire party not only to reverse, simply allowing people to, you know, use the
00:38:57.160religion as a defense for defending their free speech in kind of civil matters, not only did
00:39:02.580they reversed that religious protection law in Indiana under Mr. Conservative Values Mike Pence,
00:39:08.060also they enacted protection, special privileges for queer identities here in Indiana in a
00:39:14.940conservative state that does not want that. So voters began to see, as Mr. Pence moved up the
00:39:20.720political ladder, an increasing detachment from what he said that he supported and what he did
00:39:26.800with the authority that he had with his office. And of course, that continued when he kind of
00:39:31.040parachuted out of, you know, discontent with him in the state when he became vice president.
00:39:35.700And of course, all of the voters are aware of kind of the way that he mishandled his office
00:39:40.360during COVID lockdowns, really to be in a voice of, you know, basically what really brought down
00:39:46.180President Trump in the 2020 election, destroying the entire economy, not to mention eliminating our
00:39:51.320first freedoms to assemble, to treat religious worship, at least on an equal basis as receiving
00:39:57.760marijuana. You know, so Mr. You know, so I mean, again, I do think that Mike Pence does have some
00:40:04.560virtues. I do celebrate his fidelity to his wife. But I think he has more than a little hypocrisy
00:40:10.820to go around it. He has not been able to sustain those virtues and the rest of them needed to
00:40:15.360govern the people as the way that we deserve to be treated under a constitution as he's moved up
00:40:20.220that political ladder. So, I mean, I respect for what he has done in the past, but frankly,
00:40:26.320voters have seen that Mike Pence, when you give him more power, he has already achieved beyond
00:40:30.840the level of his capacity, and they're ready for new blood, for a new kind of party that kind of
00:40:37.020returns to what they were originally looking for Mike Pence to do in the first place that he failed
00:40:40.840to do once he gained the power to protect them in the ways that he had promised.
00:40:46.120Joy, the work that Sean Davis and you and the team over at Federalist is second to none. I mean,
00:40:52.160every day I go, one of the first places I stop is The Federalist and just incredible articles like
00:40:56.560yours. Thank you. What's your social media? Where do they get your piece? But also I want people to
00:41:01.320make sure The Federalist is part of their daily, particularly early morning media diet. Where do
00:41:07.360they go for all that, ma'am? Well, I just have two places. You go to thefederalist.com and the
00:41:12.260article we're discussing today is right there up in the left-hand corner next to the number one.
00:41:16.900And then if you want to find me, the only social media I do is X.
00:41:20.520It's just at Joy Pullman, two L's, two N's.
00:48:55.560The Press Association quote this, they say, he and other Italian commentators believe Rubio, instead of smoothing the waters, was looking to smooth over relations with the Pope for his own political ambitions, as well as the 2028 presidential race.
00:49:18.740I think that observation is worthy of consideration.