Bannon's War Room - May 08, 2026


Episode 5357: Huge Victory In Virginia, Judge Strikes Down Dems Redistricting Efforts; Building Back America's Economy As A World Superpower


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00:00:00.000 The NAACP almost immediately sued to block this effort from Tennessee.
00:00:04.920 Can you give us a sense of what fighting back in this moment is going to look like?
00:00:09.840 It's going to require that we remember we are the United States of America.
00:00:14.500 And so we have to sit what Tennessee is doing next to the fight that's coming out of Louisiana,
00:00:19.060 next to the fight that will follow in Mississippi and likely in South Carolina.
00:00:23.200 We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism. 0.74
00:00:41.020 They do not want the people who may disagree with them to be heard. 0.61
00:00:45.140 And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings.
00:00:49.720 And so it's a lucky twofer.
00:00:50.980 They get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they seek.
00:00:55.740 And I sat in a hearing yesterday in Nashville, Tennessee, when one when the author of the legislation said, well, this is a conservative state.
00:01:03.580 We should only have conservatives. And they intentionally erased the only black district, one of nine districts,
00:01:11.240 the only one that allowed black Tennesseans to have some voice because they've already cracked Nashville. 0.78
00:01:18.480 But we have to remember, this is happening around the country, and it is part of an intentional nationwide pattern of behavior. 0.93
00:01:26.060 We can be angry about Tennessee, and we can laud the Tennesseans who have fought back so ably, but we've got to remember, they started in the South, but they're coming for everyone. 0.91
00:01:34.640 Race is a leading predictor. Y'all don't want to talk about DEI out there. Y'all don't want to talk about race. 0.67
00:01:39.380 But everything you do touches on all of that. 0.99
00:01:41.900 everything you're doing touches on all of that it's hitting black people upside the head it's 0.99
00:01:47.940 hitting brown people upside the head in their communities so what what are we talking about 0.99
00:01:54.020 here and and i love what you just said i mean you have this this legislator saying well this is a 0.98
00:01:59.840 conservative uh state right we should only have conservatives then why the hell y'all out here
00:02:05.920 B word inserted, about California and New York and other liberal states, other blue states.
00:02:15.620 So why are you so concerned about what they're doing? If, you know, Tennessee, Mississippi,
00:02:21.960 Alabama, we're conservative, so we want all conservative. It doesn't matter that we got
00:02:26.200 black and brown liberals, Democrat, Republican in our state. As long as they're not conservative, 0.78
00:02:31.200 they don't get to vote. They don't get the right to have a voice. What the hell are you talking
00:02:35.520 about. Stacey, this 0.98
00:02:37.440 breaks down to a weird simple thing, and you know
00:02:39.540 it, I know it. 1.00
00:02:41.500 Everybody now has got to get off their ass, 0.99
00:02:43.540 I'm sorry, and get busy 0.99
00:02:45.400 about the vote. This
00:02:47.340 November, you've got to overwhelm the ballot
00:02:49.420 with your vote. If you want to stop this mess,
00:02:51.600 you need to start unelecting these state
00:02:53.500 legislators.
00:02:55.580 And I know I had a hand in putting some
00:02:57.520 of them there. I'll be honest about it, they turn out to be
00:02:59.580 tickleheads.
00:03:01.180 All right? The reality
00:03:03.080 of it is, this is the opportunity now
00:03:05.020 where you begin to take your government back, people.
00:03:08.040 Stacey, talk about that piece of it,
00:03:09.760 because I don't think people really appreciate
00:03:12.200 how valuable the vote has become.
00:03:14.880 If you never thought it was important before, 0.97
00:03:17.700 damn it, it is the most important thing 0.98
00:03:19.600 in front of you right now. 0.99
00:03:21.040 Essentially, what you had was a deadlock, right?
00:03:23.320 The Iranians had blocked the Strait of Horbouz.
00:03:26.460 Then Trump came up with this idea,
00:03:28.700 no, we're going to block the Strait
00:03:30.480 so that no ships can go through, not even your own.
00:03:33.760 And then Trump thought that would be enough pressure to get the Iranians to make massive concessions.
00:03:39.960 It didn't work.
00:03:41.420 So then he decided three days ago, OK, I'm going to try and break this blockade by calling it a humanitarian convoy, humanitarian corridor.
00:03:49.560 The Iranians fired back.
00:03:51.660 That didn't work. 0.62
00:03:52.900 Now he's tried again in various ways.
00:03:55.700 The basic dynamic is this, Anderson.
00:03:58.020 Trump is trying to see what can put pressure on the Iranians to come to the table and make concessions fast.
00:04:05.920 The Iranians know that and are willing to take the pain as long as the pain is distributed to everybody. 0.63
00:04:13.960 So when they fire, it's not like they're getting ships out. 0.98
00:04:17.520 What they're making sure is the strait is closed to everyone.
00:04:21.680 Because by just a certain amount of violence, you know, some drones, some fast productivity, insurance companies are not going to be willing to insure oil tankers passing through the Gulf.
00:04:35.140 So effectively, it shuts down this very important pipe of the global economy. 0.99
00:04:40.520 And the Iranians, in a sense, have an advantage because all they're trying to do is raise the insurance price. 0.99
00:04:46.880 Trump is trying to open up the strait for everyone, a much harder task. 0.84
00:04:51.680 You are in a safe place. You've got to start sending your resources, your support, and your intentions to the states that need your help.
00:04:58.740 Do not abandon the South. They incubate evil here, but they farm it out everywhere.
00:05:04.280 But we also incubate the solutions here, and we know we can win this fight.
00:05:08.660 But yes, we've got to win in November, but that means showing up for primaries, that means showing up for the general,
00:05:13.740 and then it means making sure we're paying attention in 27, in 28, and in 2030 when the census happens,
00:05:20.120 because that's when they start this all over again.
00:05:22.680 We can pull this off, but we've got to start fighting now
00:05:25.500 because we're already behind, but we can catch up.
00:05:28.420 I also think that, I mean, so this ballroom that he's building,
00:05:33.100 when after the revolution in Ukraine,
00:05:34.640 when they chased out their Russian-aligned dictator,
00:05:37.220 they turned his estate into a museum of corruption 0.87
00:05:39.900 and they preserved everything as it was
00:05:42.700 so that people could walk through and see how he had lived at their expense.
00:05:46.440 And to me, that's kind of a very good potential use of this ballroom
00:05:50.880 because somebody is going to have to preserve this to explain what happened.
00:05:56.900 Good morning, everybody.
00:05:58.720 I am delighted to be here in the sunshine outside Havering Town Hall,
00:06:05.840 which I can now say is under new management.
00:06:09.240 And it's significant.
00:06:13.500 It's our first win of a borough in London, and that in some ways goes against the trend,
00:06:20.040 because the pattern that's emerging over the country is that Labour are being wiped out
00:06:25.540 by reform in many of their most traditional areas, and what you're going to see later on today
00:06:31.540 is the Conservative Party being wiped out in their heartlands like Essex.
00:06:36.460 So London goes a bit against the trend in that the Conservatives and Labour have held up
00:06:40.740 in some of the other boroughs.
00:06:42.940 But I think overall what's happened
00:06:44.500 is a truly historic shift in British politics.
00:06:48.920 We've been so used to thinking about politics
00:06:50.820 in terms of left and right,
00:06:52.780 and yet what reform are able to do
00:06:54.580 is to win in areas that have always been conservative,
00:06:57.100 but equally we're proving in a big way
00:06:59.660 we can win in areas that Labour have dominated, frankly,
00:07:03.980 since the end of World War I.
00:07:06.240 At the moment we're winning one in three
00:07:08.400 of all the seats that are up
00:07:10.400 but I genuinely think the best is yet
00:07:12.460 to come. I'm very excited about
00:07:14.620 the North East results
00:07:16.320 the Yorkshire results
00:07:17.880 some more to come in the West Midlands
00:07:20.780 Essex we're feeling
00:07:22.340 supremely confident 1.00
00:07:23.700 and that's significant given that half the
00:07:26.320 shadow cabinet have seats
00:07:27.980 in Essex. So it's a big
00:07:30.580 big day
00:07:31.700 not just for our party
00:07:34.320 but for a complete reshaping
00:07:35.840 of British politics in every way
00:07:38.380 And it all goes to show that over the course of the last two years, since we made that breakthrough in the general election, we have professionalised the party.
00:07:48.780 We've done it at a very, very rapid rate. I'm thrilled and delighted.
00:07:53.900 Yesterday morning at 2.41 a.m. at General Eisenhower's headquarters, General Jodl, the representative of the German high command and of Grand Admiral Dönitz, the designated head of the German state,
00:08:14.340 signed the act of unconditional surrender
00:08:19.140 of all German land, sea, and air forces in Europe
00:08:26.140 to the Allied Expeditionary Forces
00:08:29.460 and simultaneously to the Soviet High Command.
00:08:36.040 Hostilities will end officially
00:08:39.460 at one minute after midnight tonight,
00:08:43.280 Tuesday the 8th of May
00:08:46.140 we may allow ourselves
00:08:49.020 a brief period of rejoicing 0.72
00:08:52.320 today is victory in Europe Day
00:08:58.380 tomorrow will also be
00:09:01.540 victory in Europe Day
00:09:03.720 we must now devote all our strength and resources
00:09:07.960 to the completion of our tasks
00:09:10.880 both at home and abroad
00:09:13.220 Advance Britannia. Long live the cause of freedom. God save the King.
00:09:22.260 Friday, 8 May, Eurovalor, 2026. What a day already. Of course, we're commemorating the end
00:09:28.260 of the war in Europe back in 1945. Also, massive win by our colleague Nigel Farage in the United
00:09:36.020 Kingdom. Blockbuster news as we came on air. The Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Virginia has
00:09:43.220 have nixed the phony referendum by the left-wing radical Democrats. Those four seats are not going
00:09:50.240 to Democrats. Jeff Reyes is going to join us by phone in a moment, but I want to start with the
00:09:54.240 Caroline Wren. Caroline, Tennessee, South Carolina, now Virginia. Unbelievable, man.
00:10:04.520 I have never been more excited to be wrong about something than I am being wrong about the Virginia
00:10:09.640 supreme court this was a like right before we came on this ruling just came out i mean that
00:10:15.480 was four seats that were dems were going to pick up that just came back into play this is so
00:10:20.480 massive i'm so glad the virginity supreme court did clearly the right thing the process was
00:10:25.140 unconstitutional we all knew that i just have lost faith in our institutions and so it is great to
00:10:31.140 see something like this be upheld we have two massive court wins now with the bra ruling now
00:10:37.000 this, and now we are all eyes are on the magic number, Steve, which is 218. That's what you need
00:10:42.800 for the majority. We do not want Speaker Hakeem Jeffries. 218 is what we need. With this Virginia
00:10:48.120 ruling and the Tennessee map passing last night, that puts Republicans at 212 safe seats. We need
00:10:54.880 six more. And guess how many more seats are currently on the board for grabs with redistricting? 0.94
00:11:00.120 Six. Louisiana, you've got two. Alabama, you've got two. South Carolina, one. Mississippi, one. 0.99
00:11:07.040 You get those six, that is game, set, match.
00:11:10.620 And that does not even account for, by the way,
00:11:12.460 the fact that we've removed 3.5 million, at minimum,
00:11:15.580 illegal immigrants from this country
00:11:17.140 who will no longer be voting this time around. 1.00
00:11:19.560 So I am very optimistic today.
00:11:23.400 No, that's what I told people.
00:11:24.680 You see in the grassroots effort in Texas
00:11:26.600 and the Commonwealth of Virginia,
00:11:28.260 we're going to put up a fight in this thing. 0.68
00:11:29.860 Don't go black pill on us.
00:11:32.060 But the Commonwealth of Virginia,
00:11:33.280 I think what the, because these were essentially
00:11:36.400 liberal and Democrat judges, it shows you the length of how radical the Democratic Party did
00:11:43.800 on this map, that even these judges, the process and the map, they couldn't defend. Correct, ma'am?
00:11:49.540 Yeah. I think so. Someone explained it to me well about them. A lot of those Supreme Court judges
00:11:54.260 were actually put in under Republican governors. They serve 10-year terms, and they're reelected
00:11:59.380 by the legislature. And so I think the argument someone made to me as to why they thought the
00:12:03.540 Supreme Court would do the right thing is look if you're one of these Supreme Court judges who's
00:12:07.340 going to be coming up for a re-nomination by this legislature and you were nominated by a Republican
00:12:12.120 they're not going to care how you ruled on this case they're throwing you out anyway the Dems
00:12:16.600 are radical Governor Spanberger is absolutely radical they want one of their radical judges
00:12:21.140 in there and so there will be no reward for you to you know to basically violate all of what you
00:12:26.580 know is right in the Constitution and and say yes this is fine this illegal process is fine
00:12:32.540 And someone told me that two days ago, and it was fairly convincing.
00:12:35.720 And now we're seeing it play out in real time right now.
00:12:39.580 Okay, hang on a second.
00:12:40.820 Caroline, stay right there because we're going to talk South Carolina, Tennessee, these other six.
00:12:45.020 I want to bring in Jeff Reier by phone, the chairman of the GOP in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:12:50.440 Jeff, amazing victory today.
00:12:52.480 Can you tell us what happened?
00:12:54.340 Well, the Supreme Court ruled in our favor and did so rather emphatically
00:12:59.580 and explained in its ruling that what the General Assembly had done was, in fact, unconstitutional,
00:13:06.500 which was our contention from the outset.
00:13:10.020 And it took a tremendous amount of courage for these justices to do this.
00:13:15.320 And doing the right thing isn't always easy.
00:13:17.780 And we are obviously very, very grateful that the court ruled in favor of the Virginia Constitution
00:13:22.920 and in favor of the voters of Virginia, frankly.
00:13:27.180 Is this putting high relief in front of the entire nation, how radical Spanberger in this radical legislature in the Commonwealth?
00:13:34.740 Because this is the people that are going to rule you unless we stand up to them like the grassroots did in your amazing effort in the referendum.
00:13:42.840 And I think many of the issues you brought up and pounded over and over again, these justices took to heart.
00:13:48.740 But does this show once again how radical these Democrats are?
00:13:51.420 they'll rip up any constitution, the U.S. Constitution or a state constitution to get power?
00:13:58.020 Absolutely. It is part of their DNA at this point that their end goal doesn't matter as
00:14:07.420 far as what the means are. They will just go ahead and plow forward regardless. And if it were not
00:14:14.940 for a brave judiciary that's willing to actually look at the Constitution, and a lot of credit
00:14:21.040 here goes to Judge Hurley
00:14:23.220 and Tazewell for pointing
00:14:25.160 out the flaws and what they had
00:14:27.120 done. Just a tremendous amount
00:14:29.140 because that took a lot of guts.
00:14:32.060 And
00:14:32.240 if it weren't for that, we'd be stuck with this.
00:14:35.060 Jeff, hang on. I'm going to hold you to the break.
00:14:37.160 Just hang on.
00:14:38.740 Wow. Incredible.
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00:14:45.040 capital to the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:14:47.460 We are on a roll.
00:14:49.340 What did Churchill call it?
00:14:52.800 Victory Day?
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00:17:21.000 You saw right there, Tennessee, yesterday, I got Jeff Reier on the phone,
00:17:25.760 chairman of the GOP, blockbuster news right out of Virginia.
00:17:29.120 Caroline Wren, this is what it's about.
00:17:32.140 It's between total anarchy of these Marxists and the rule of law and the Constitution.
00:17:37.180 You saw the Constitution yesterday being upheld in Tennessee moments ago, the Constitution being upheld by the Supreme Court in the Commonwealth of Virginia, the Supreme Court itself upholding the Constitution a couple of weeks ago.
00:17:49.600 Why are these feckless Republicans?
00:17:51.200 It's a fight and it's not pretty, but we need the feckless Republicans in these other states, particularly Georgia, South Carolina, to understand that this is about the constitutional order and the grassroots are prepared to go into battle to defend this, ma'am.
00:18:05.160 absolutely i do worry a little bit this ruling could get some of these squishy republicans
00:18:10.880 to say okay you know now we can stand down absolutely not we have to go full speed ahead
00:18:16.040 double down there are six seats still on the table actually there are there are 10 but georgia
00:18:21.640 passed and i'm sorry to say that i give up but like kemp isn't going to move so those are four
00:18:26.700 totally wasted seats that will have to live under an unconstitutional map until 2028 but again
00:18:32.540 Louisiana they are still trying to decide to go for one or two go for two why would you go for one
00:18:39.140 that is nuts go for two Alabama there are two seats up for grabs Alabama is trickier I'm putting
00:18:45.800 less pressure and kind of throwing out firebombs on that one it has to do with lawsuits and how
00:18:50.560 quickly they move one of the lawsuits would just have it refer back to a map that would make it a
00:18:54.660 plus one if another lawsuit moves quick enough then it could be plus two so it is less about
00:18:59.580 like calling your state legislators and more about the legal process. South Carolina next week,
00:19:04.800 the House is debating it right now. The state Senate is going to take it up. The Democrats are
00:19:09.000 using this ridiculous talking point saying, this is so great. This is actually going to be a dumb 1.00
00:19:14.500 mander and we could end up gaining two seats. I'm like, okay, if you really believe that, 0.91
00:19:18.140 then fine. The South Carolina state House is going to vote today. Then I expect every Democrat to
00:19:22.000 vote for this. And then we actually don't have a problem when we can let the squishy yards vote. 1.00
00:19:25.380 No, because if you really think you're going to pick them up, then put your money where your
00:19:28.720 mouth is vote yes so i've been calling them out today about that the reality is they use this play
00:19:34.340 in tennessee everywhere else saying oh this is going to be good then when it passes they are
00:19:38.700 just epiplected they are sobbing on the street i mean look at tennessee look at how unhinged they
00:19:45.100 were the tennessee democrat party was saying oh trying to dare us go ahead try and do this we'll
00:19:49.960 end up gaining two seats because you'll disperse out democrats among your other districts well
00:19:54.340 Well, then it passes and they are literally losing their minds.
00:19:57.180 So South Carolina, take note of the meltdown in Tennessee, because that is how the Democrats are going to be when you pass this next Tuesday.
00:20:05.200 Have South Carolina agreed?
00:20:07.800 Have they already agreed to move their primary to August?
00:20:11.520 Is that what the vote is about next week?
00:20:14.000 No, there are two votes there.
00:20:15.660 They are in hearings this morning.
00:20:17.660 And those are the debates right now.
00:20:18.740 So one is to move the primary to August 11th.
00:20:21.940 And then the other one would be debating the actual map.
00:20:25.900 Then they have to go over to the state Senate, which is much more of a problem.
00:20:28.920 We have several problem senators in the GOP, the South Carolina State Senate.
00:20:33.800 You know, a lot of these just like they're similar to Indiana to where they are, you know, they either want things out of it or they don't watch the national news unless NPR is talking about it.
00:20:42.940 They are unaware of, you know, the grassroots support of this.
00:20:46.080 and so they need to understand that they will every single one of them that votes against this
00:20:50.680 will have a primary challenger i will personally see to see to it i've done a lot of south carolina
00:20:55.560 politics in my life and i have no problem coming and camping out there and running a primary against
00:21:00.820 every single person that votes against redistricting in south carolina mark my words
00:21:05.460 okay hang on a second we're gonna have a call to action for the posse and maybe just stick right
00:21:09.900 there. Jeff Reier, the grassroots, I wanted you to see what happened in Tennessee. And people,
00:21:15.840 it's like a five-minute clip that I played twice last night because people are so outraged about
00:21:20.760 it. Because that's the difference. That's what we're talking about. It's either ruled by the
00:21:24.880 savage mob or ruled by a constitutional order. Jeff, the amazing grassroots effort led by you
00:21:31.260 in the Commonwealth of Virginia clearly influenced Judge Hurley in the Supreme Court. That's why
00:21:36.440 these grassroots efforts are so important so people know, and particularly people in power
00:21:41.640 know, that the basic working man and woman, the middle class man and woman out there are
00:21:46.980 absolutely repulsed by these unconstitutional districts and will fight like hell to make
00:21:53.920 sure it doesn't go down, sir.
00:21:56.620 Yeah, and absolutely.
00:21:57.900 And in our case, they were integral to the effort.
00:22:00.860 At the beginning of this, there was an assumption that we were going to, that the forces that were against this were going to get wiped off the map by double digits and an overwhelming spending campaign on the part of the Democrats.
00:22:15.080 But our grassroots rose to the challenge in a big way.
00:22:18.660 And despite being heavily outspent, brought it to our best performance in the state since 2001.
00:22:26.380 We took it right to them.
00:22:28.540 And actually, the election results showed why these districts were bad, because what ended up happening?
00:22:35.160 The only place where the yes votes carried were places where Democratic votes were heavily concentrated in dense urban areas, disenfranchising half of the state.
00:22:47.720 And I like to think that it helped to steal the resolve of the judges along the way to do the right thing, and they did.
00:22:56.880 And we're grateful to them. But boy, we are very grateful to the effort that our grassroots put in and also to the help of the War Room Posse, which was integral to our success.
00:23:07.320 They were with us before anybody else was helping. And it made it made a huge difference.
00:23:14.320 Well, Jeff, thank you for the kind words. Steel Resolve, I think, is great. Your leadership is unbelievable. Where do people go?
00:23:20.840 They want to find out more about this. This is Blockbuster. MSNBC is going to go into a couple of days of mourning here.
00:23:26.880 And so we want to be able to mock them every second.
00:23:29.360 Where do people go on your social media and to your website to find more about this great victory in the Commonwealth?
00:23:35.720 Well, you can read the whole decision because we have posted it already on our X account.
00:23:41.140 It's at capital V, capital A, underscore, capital G, capital O, capital P.
00:23:47.160 And we've already posted it there.
00:23:49.680 We'll be doing more on our website, which is virginiaspellitout.gop.
00:23:54.620 and we will still be collecting donations to help defray the costs of this effort
00:24:01.240 because we were represented, although we got a tremendous amount of assistance
00:24:06.820 from the Republican National Committee for the legal effort,
00:24:10.400 we still have expenses left over from our very valiant effort in the referendum.
00:24:16.620 So you've got a big donate button in the upper right-hand corner,
00:24:20.060 and we appreciate all the help we can get.
00:24:22.180 But this is a great day for Virginia and for constitutional government, period.
00:24:29.140 Unbelievable. Thank you, sir. The constitutional order.
00:24:32.160 Caroline Wren, I want to take a second, go back to your math for all the black pillars and all the doomers. 1.00
00:24:37.160 I said, look, if we just, you know, take a deep breath, it's going to be a tough fight. 1.00
00:24:42.900 We're a long way from there. But the redistricting of wars are everything.
00:24:46.640 if we if we chop our way through here with a machete we're going to end up within striking
00:24:51.740 distance of actual victory and you're telling me now hey bannon the way i look at this math
00:24:57.400 we may actually we get the redistricting awards right in the next couple weeks
00:25:01.300 we may actually be there the magic number is 218 we're approximately at 212 right now
00:25:07.520 yep with virginia returning we're at 212 better either categorized this was i think a cook report
00:25:14.520 so like as lean are or safe are and then um so really i mean we need you need six more and there
00:25:22.500 are six on the board i guess is my point that would could become safe are immediately and then
00:25:27.020 then it's really i mean you'd have to have like catastrophic loss but even then like it's not
00:25:32.180 like it's it would be some blowout or something but i i do not want to wake up in november with
00:25:37.580 speaker hakeem jeffries because of one seat and we would have left one seat on the on the board
00:25:42.940 in say louisiana or alabama we already left four on the board in georgia that is why i'm like no
00:25:48.320 we have to continue full speed ahead again louisiana they go into session today they are
00:25:54.020 debating right now whether to go for just one seat or two me too there's a lot of background
00:25:59.920 as to why that is the legislature wants to governor landry wants one they're trying to kind of carve up
00:26:05.440 this damn district to leave cleo fields that would have baton rouge and new orleans combined it's 0.99
00:26:12.400 basically we're doing their job to gerrymander for them it's it's idiotic alabama could go for two 1.00
00:26:18.840 right now the way it will snap back to just one if there's certain court ruling so that is less 0.96
00:26:24.740 of the grassroots needing to step up so that's either going to be a one or two pickup for sure
00:26:28.620 they're in session right now um and then south carolina that vote we're expecting to happen on
00:26:34.020 tuesday it is a big slog you'll see a lot of stuff on my social media account today about the who are
00:26:39.860 the senators trying to oppose this? Where can the grassroots be pushing their efforts? Because
00:26:44.320 these South Carolina state senators have got to hear from the base today about why this is so
00:26:49.540 important. Mississippi, again, this one is also tricky. Governor Tate Reeves is doing a great
00:26:54.480 job. Called a special session. It's starting May 20th. There's an easy seat for grabs there.
00:26:59.720 Their primaries happened in March, though. So right now they are trying to figure out what it
00:27:04.500 would look like if you were to redraw a map. How do you go redo a primary? But to their credit,
00:27:09.620 But, again, they are all looking at this.
00:27:12.320 Lawyers are looking at it and trying to find a way to a yes.
00:27:16.040 Yep.
00:27:16.920 Caroline, you're going to be bomber command today.
00:27:18.980 Where do people go, particularly in Louisiana and Mississippi?
00:27:23.040 Folks, we need you to the ramparts today.
00:27:26.280 You are winning.
00:27:27.480 You have momentum, right?
00:27:29.500 In football, we are moving the chains.
00:27:32.180 We need to move them more.
00:27:33.200 Louisiana and Mississippi, where they go to get your social media, 1.00
00:27:37.140 Caroline, we're going to get marching orders.
00:27:39.620 And one last thing. This is why the state parties and the national GOP matter. Joe Gruters has been
00:27:43.860 eminently better than Rana. He funded these lawsuits. You saw right there with the Virginia
00:27:47.580 GOP chair. You need good state GOP chairs. We need a good, strong national GOP that cares about
00:27:53.000 election integrity and lawsuits. We fought for that for the last four years. We got it. We're
00:27:57.200 seeing it now manifest itself. So thank you to them. And you can follow me at at Caroline Wren
00:28:02.480 on X, Truth, Social, and Getter. Okay, let's get to Caroline today. She's Bomber Command.
00:28:08.400 Mississippi and Louisiana, today at the Ramparts.
00:28:13.300 Short commercial break.
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00:29:52.600 Folks, let me break you down this way about national elections, our electoral process.
00:29:58.700 There are three things I think one should, and you should take your number two pencil out for this.
00:30:03.780 One is structural, two is process, and three is content, or maybe contents too, structural content and process.
00:30:13.760 Process is the grassroots effort of voter engagement, okay?
00:30:18.140 We know that we can do that when people are motivated.
00:30:22.900 They're motivated by content.
00:30:24.680 The structural issues we're taking care of, that's what you're finding. 0.91
00:30:27.700 This is what this whole redistricting war is and everything about the voter integrity and, you know, making sure illegal aliens don't vote, all of that.
00:30:36.660 Those are structural issues. 0.78
00:30:38.940 And right now, we are running the tables on them on the structural side.
00:30:43.480 We are close, within hollering distance of the magic number 218.
00:30:49.200 Because in this situation, the only, you know, victory is everything.
00:30:52.980 the issues we have is content to me is content right now we've got a big content issue and we
00:31:01.100 have to be realistic about this bowling's going to join me in the second i think it's pretty obvious
00:31:04.700 the foreign minister of the persians of iran was in beijing the other day what in the hell they
00:31:11.760 having a meeting with him 10 days or a week before two weeks before president trump shows up for a
00:31:16.780 meeting it's obvious that beijing and unless we put the screws to them which we're not right now
00:31:23.300 totally that beijing and the persians want to drag out this war in some aspect until the summer or
00:31:32.380 fall to make it a major part of the 2026 midterm bowling's going to be in a moment to talk about
00:31:38.460 what's transpired in the last 24 hours and what it looks like going forward david malpass former
00:31:44.880 head of the world bank former number three in the trump 45 treasury department talk to me but we
00:31:51.500 just had jobs numbers and to me the key they talk about affordability you have to solve for the
00:31:56.340 equation of growth in the economy uh growth per individual and of course wage growth ahead of
00:32:04.600 inflation if you have if people have discretionary income or have income higher than the inflation
00:32:09.960 rate, at least you've got an argument with them on how things are getting better. Are we accomplishing
00:32:15.100 those tasks right now in this jobs report that came out this morning, David Malpass?
00:32:21.260 We are. There was job growth, which is good. It's amazing. It's recovering from Joe Biden.
00:32:27.840 There's lots more to be done. And I think that's what people feel in terms of the wages,
00:32:32.500 the affordability issues. We need lots more jobs and we need to be the party of job growth.
00:32:39.680 In Britain, you know, they labor under this idea that there's the Labour Party versus the Conservative Party.
00:32:45.580 They need to change the names because if you get a free government going, you get more jobs.
00:32:53.520 President Trump, of course, is the standard bearer for that.
00:32:56.620 The construction jobs, the manufacturing jobs.
00:32:59.600 He built big chunks of New York City.
00:33:01.620 I have four of my kids born there, and they've benefited from each of the things that he did in terms of creating construction and manufacturing jobs.
00:33:11.720 And we need that times 10 for the nation as a whole.
00:33:15.400 So I think the number this morning was good, but we can do a lot better.
00:33:22.160 You know, Steve, there's two surveys they do out of the Department of Labor.
00:33:26.160 These are technical issues, but they're really important.
00:33:28.640 They go to companies, especially big companies, and ask how many jobs, and they're creating jobs.
00:33:34.320 But then they also go to small businesses, the household survey, and ask people, do you have enough work?
00:33:40.300 And the answer came back this morning, no, not enough.
00:33:43.380 I want to work more.
00:33:44.800 There was a minus 226,000 on the household survey this morning.
00:33:49.760 So what my message is, we need this whole of government effort to have more training.
00:33:56.260 And, you know, we need to start in grade school and junior high and high school, junior colleges, teaching people that they can have a really good wage by making America great.
00:34:09.180 And that's a message, I think, that we've got to double down, triple down going into the midterms.
00:34:15.200 Hang on. We had this program, a program like this started a couple of decades ago, in which we're going to change the entire elementary school system, all the grammar schools, everything to STEM.
00:34:25.240 We're going to have to teach people math and technology and science.
00:34:28.460 And, you know, you had to dump art.
00:34:30.320 You had to dump a part of history.
00:34:32.100 You had to dump after school programs because everybody had to be STEM.
00:34:35.920 Now, yesterday, another massive company in Silicon Valley, I think, had, what, 7% of their workforce.
00:34:41.900 They bottom blue because of artificial intelligence.
00:34:45.080 How do we handle the artificial intelligence jobs apocalypse at the same time that we're trying to focus on actually building a workforce
00:34:53.040 that has the skill sets you need for today and tomorrow, sir?
00:35:00.540 I think Americans will rise to the occasion.
00:35:03.980 What you were talking about 20 years ago, that was the No Child Left Behind program,
00:35:08.160 and it went through the teachers union.
00:35:10.320 You know, they never overcame that problem. 0.96
00:35:13.040 So what's happening right now is we're trying to push back on China, but there's not nearly 0.98
00:35:18.520 enough.
00:35:19.020 You know, China is still growing in its use of international organizations, which one thing that we've talked about here, the IMF and the World Bank is still getting bigger and bigger, which gives China an advantage.
00:35:31.800 But as far as the skills, then, children will gravitate to where they can be successful.
00:35:39.920 They have to be allowed to in the system. And we need programs coming out every month that are aligned with what President Trump wants to create the workers of the future.
00:35:54.800 He did it with no tax on tips. Remember, that's very important because people were getting heavily taxed.
00:36:01.920 The elderly are getting taxed when they take Social Security so they don't work.
00:36:06.020 And so we want all those people in the labor force looking for jobs.
00:36:10.560 And then I have no doubt they'll learn how to do AI and use it every day in their jobs.
00:36:15.660 Everybody will.
00:36:17.520 Hang over a second, David.
00:36:18.880 I'm going to come back to you talking about China in a second, international debt.
00:36:24.340 So stick there.
00:36:25.080 Eric Bolling, enlighten us, Brother Bolling, on what are the markets telling us, particularly
00:36:30.620 number of ships going through?
00:36:32.400 What is happening?
00:36:33.460 We have a ceasefire.
00:36:34.680 I guess the program of Operation Freedom kicked back in last night.
00:36:39.420 We're going to do more convoy service, although Navy ships were fired upon, I think.
00:36:45.780 President Trump struck back, but he said the ceasefire is not over.
00:36:49.500 The Iranians have been doing nothing but smack-talking us on social media,
00:36:56.000 and they sent their foreign minister over to meet with the Chinese Communist Party, 0.68
00:36:59.540 which is, I think, a direct slap in the face to the United States government and to President Trump.
00:37:04.680 I do understand that President Trump heard enough nonsense out of Lula yesterday.
00:37:09.500 They shut that whole thing out, which is a good start.
00:37:12.480 That's a good pregame warm-up for the Beijing meeting.
00:37:17.820 Tell me what's happened in the Gulf today.
00:37:20.340 And I was just texting my guy who has one of my biggest oil traders who has access to that proprietary information, those Bloomberg terminals.
00:37:28.480 And I asked him while you were saying this, because I forgot to ask him the vessel count.
00:37:32.600 Remember, Steve, four days ago, it was 11. Three days ago, it was four. I'm sorry, two.
00:37:39.860 Yesterday, it was exactly zero. And now today, it's seven. So seven vessels have transited the
00:37:45.480 Gulf in 24 hours. Noteworthy that both the U.S. has fired on Iranian ships, and the Iranian ships
00:37:50.200 have actually fired on a U.S., I believe, destroyer. I'm not sure what they hit. But President
00:37:56.120 Trump this morning outside the White House, I guess in the North Lawn waiting to board Marine 0.97
00:38:00.520 what it looked like, said that, oh, it was a love tap by the Iranians, and then we pounded them into
00:38:05.420 the bottom of the sea. All right, so the market opened $2 higher in crude oil, and it was very, 0.99
00:38:11.960 very nervously trading, very quiet trading. It's now slipped to lower. While I was on break with
00:38:16.920 you, I'm going to do this for you, Steve, but only Stephen K. Bannon in the war room. I added to,
00:38:21.620 I put in a very large, bearish position expecting oil to come down, maybe not in the next week or
00:38:27.700 too, but a long-term bet for oil to become substantially lower while I was waiting to come
00:38:33.120 on the show. No one else is going to give you that, my friend. But talking to these guys,
00:38:37.620 I remember yesterday we spoke, I believe at the four o'clock handoff. I said, you know,
00:38:41.400 these are the smartest people in the room in energy, in geopolitics, everything is because
00:38:46.900 there's so much money on the line for these conglomerate oil companies. And they had shifted
00:38:51.540 from a very bullish stance when we were at CPAC in Dallas to now telling me they're giving me
00:38:56.540 this indication that maybe this thing has played out to the upside so far, and it may be
00:39:02.360 retreating. I will tell you one thing about that economic number that got released today,
00:39:06.500 the jobs report. Combine that with the 2% GDP growth, I believe it was last week or so,
00:39:12.560 you have two very, very strong numbers. Now, David Malpass makes a very point. It's job growth.
00:39:17.140 They were expecting 60,000. We got 113,000 ballpark, and that's good, but he would like
00:39:23.240 to see a more broader growth because a lot of the growth happened in the AI space. And this is a
00:39:29.200 very important little asterisk right here. The growth is in capital expenditure in the AI space
00:39:35.900 in the midst of an Iranian war where oil prices are going up, which should put a damper on anything
00:39:42.820 AI because AI just sucks in energy almost as much as transportation does. It'll get to the point
00:39:49.440 where it may almost compete with transportation as the normal pull for crude oil, natural gas, and liquefied propane gases and others. 0.85
00:40:00.300 Is it obvious the way that Iranians are, because I don't believe, correct me if I'm wrong,
00:40:04.840 I don't think we got the one pager yet, their draft or their markup. 0.70
00:40:09.040 Their strategy right now seems to me that they think it's to their advantage to drag this out as long as possible
00:40:16.660 and to take this into the summer, into the midterm elections and try to force the American people to turn on President Trump and the Republican Party. 0.64
00:40:25.860 Because there's even even with the Persians being very careful, close to the best negotiators, this is we're not seeing a lot of momentum on this. 0.54
00:40:34.980 Correct. You agree with that? Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. 0.99
00:40:38.000 I'll tell you one thing also that late last night, the CIA put out a report that said the
00:40:45.300 Iranians are able to withstand the blockade for several months. Not weeks, several months. They
00:40:51.960 have enough defensive firepower to withstand the blockade. So that tells me that they're not going
00:40:57.100 to relent unless there's a deal. But Steve, at this point, I mean, you're right up against the ability
00:41:02.480 to turn the energy price market down,
00:41:05.400 not just crude oil, you can get that down fast.
00:41:07.900 The actual pump prices for gasoline,
00:41:10.800 right now we're pushing 30, 40 days ahead.
00:41:14.520 Even if crude starts coming down now,
00:41:16.320 you're gonna have high pump prices at least mid-summer.
00:41:19.040 If this lasts another two months,
00:41:20.900 you're gonna have a $4 or higher pump price,
00:41:24.740 first number, into September, October.
00:41:29.320 At this point, I have just come around to believe that now Trump should probably keep the blockade on, continue choking the Iranians out of their money, choking the Chinese out of their oil, and suck it up buttercup on midterms.
00:41:44.100 because what you talked to us about with Caroline Wren
00:41:46.880 is wildly, wildly, it's euphoric almost to think that
00:41:53.080 in the midst of all this stuff going on
00:41:54.960 and a high gas price, that there's a chance
00:41:56.960 we could still recapture or maintain the House
00:41:59.860 and the Senate.
00:42:00.960 That's fantastic.
00:42:01.920 And you're right, the structural part of that
00:42:03.600 is the way to do it.
00:42:05.200 And we're getting it done.
00:42:06.660 I don't know if Caroline mentioned the Florida four
00:42:09.400 or five that they could pick up.
00:42:10.760 Was that counted in her 218 or 212?
00:42:14.100 Oh, yes, yes.
00:42:15.580 To get to the 212, you count to Florida, and you're counting to Virginia now.
00:42:21.040 That's why those are kind of counted. 0.99
00:42:23.860 One more dumb question. 0.98
00:42:26.220 Jeff Landry is a very pro-Trump, pro-conservative governor. 0.99
00:42:32.240 Why would he not want to in Louisiana?
00:42:34.200 There's lots of, as my folks in Louisiana say,
00:42:38.860 there's a lot of local issues tied up with that last seat so Landry's 100 percent MAGA it's this
00:42:44.460 fact of do you take two or take one and they're saying one now and one later but folks are saying
00:42:49.820 uh Governor Landry we love you we know you're MAGA there's all kind of internal politics about that
00:42:55.000 seat but we got to have it and you're seeing that I'm gonna go to his alligator hunt and I'll lean
00:43:01.100 on him that that helps that's okay Eric where do people get you through the day we're gonna do a
00:43:07.380 handoff late in the four o'clock hour sir i promise i'll be prepared uh listen listen you
00:43:13.820 find me right here you find me on war room while this oil thing is going on or economics i'm here
00:43:18.180 for you see you for four o'clock in the four o'clock hour with the handoff and i just booked
00:43:22.900 with your permission i just booked caroline wren for the three o'clock for the four o'clock hour
00:43:27.380 so yeah we want her everywhere thank you brother let you go back to work hope that trade works out
00:43:32.760 for you bowling might have to give up that yacht if it's it's not malpass we're absolutely packed
00:43:39.760 from now to the end malpass is going to give us some guidance on all of this
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00:46:18.320 david malpass um lula comes to the white house yesterday and you know he's the one trying to
00:46:26.720 lead the bricks nations and destroying the petrodollar they have a change normally and
00:46:32.040 we were all set up for it i was not happy i'm not a lula fan my understanding is the vice president
00:46:36.380 J.D. Vance was not happy about it.
00:46:37.980 Marco was not happy about a lot of folks around the president.
00:46:41.440 Don't know how this got set up, but not happy about Lula coming.
00:46:44.220 I think the president, when Lula got there, sized the matter up and said, hey, ma'am,
00:46:48.220 I'm not going to bring in the press right now for a traditional bilat.
00:46:50.720 Let me have this thing play out.
00:46:51.960 And it was decided they wouldn't do a joint effort.
00:46:54.900 I think part of that is the president understands that Lula is a bad guy.
00:46:58.700 And you've got to see, besides all the flattery and the way he's working you all the time, 0.99
00:47:02.660 when the president sees that up close in person, particularly Lula's partnership with the Chinese
00:47:09.060 Communist Party. So you've had Lula come to the White House, try to work the president. You had
00:47:13.100 the foreign minister of the Persians go to Beijing 10 days before the meeting. You couldn't have a
00:47:20.540 bigger slap in the face. So David, what's your assessment? You were head of international finance 0.75
00:47:25.560 in the Treasury Department for President Trump. What do you think is going on and what can we
00:47:31.800 accomplish, particularly regarding this war in the Persian Gulf in Beijing, sir?
00:47:38.980 Full pressure on China. But I was glad to see President Trump push back on President Lula.
00:47:45.200 You know, he's a deep socialist. He came to the Hiroshima summit, the G7 summit in 2023, Lula did,
00:47:54.280 and lectured Joe Biden. Joe Biden just sat there and took the lecture. It was a lecture all about
00:47:59.880 how the governments are wonderful around the world and they should be much bigger.
00:48:03.980 So it was good to see President Trump push back on that. 0.52
00:48:07.640 As he goes to China, we've got to recognize, you know, China is run by the Communist Party 0.61
00:48:12.980 and they're not our friend. 0.93
00:48:14.420 They're a competitor. 1.00
00:48:16.920 We have to stand up around the world, including in the Iran sphere. 0.96
00:48:25.880 China's been getting this big discount on its oil coming in from both Russia and Iran,
00:48:30.700 and that's got to stop.
00:48:32.160 And China has to understand that and that we're going to keep the pressure on there.
00:48:36.200 There's lots of other things I think the U.S. should be pushing on.
00:48:40.040 China says it's a developing nation.
00:48:42.560 You know, the U.S. needs to go in and say, we are the dominant nation.
00:48:46.560 The dollar is much better than the Chinese yuan.
00:48:49.340 And that'll, you know, get their attention because they think they're going to be taking 0.98
00:48:53.420 over the world financial system.
00:48:55.380 OK, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. You used to run the World Bank. You know, the IMF, you were number three going international. You've been saying for years that we we institutionally, the United States of America allows China to be treated institutionally like a like a developing nation.
00:49:13.580 And we've got to stop that.
00:49:15.640 But I want to go to the heart of this because we've been making this argument about the end of the dollar empire.
00:49:20.000 I don't want to see the end of the dollar empire unless people have a national conversation that we shouldn't be the prime reserve currency because things would change if we're not.
00:49:28.500 And maybe people think some of us for the better. 0.82
00:49:31.520 But the BRICS nation, Lula and the Chinese Communist Party are maniacally focused on destroying the petrodollar in the Persian Gulf.
00:49:39.160 Are they not, David Malpass? 0.88
00:49:42.400 They are.
00:49:43.200 And so they have institutions to do that. In Shanghai, there's the New Development Bank.
00:49:48.740 That's what we call the BRICS Bank. And the international system allows it to stand right
00:49:54.300 beside Western institutions as a preferred creditor within the global debt system. That
00:50:01.180 should stop. World Bank is still lending to China and is still requiring 45 percent of lending to
00:50:08.840 be climate financing, which goes to China. And so there's this pushback that's needed across the
00:50:14.960 board. I think those can be on the table as the president meets and pushes on President Xi. And I
00:50:22.680 think China will figure that out, that the U.S. is just a much bigger, stronger economy with more
00:50:29.000 technology, and they better be aware of that. Now, you know, and then at the same time, they have this
00:50:36.960 lock on critical materials. Steve, I want to come back to the jobs thing. We have to have
00:50:42.900 a national effort, like a Manhattan Project, to have job skills coming up through our school
00:50:49.140 system all the way up. It's not this no child left behind stuff that came out of the 2000s.
00:50:56.220 We've got to have actual skills training that is tested and available for machine tool operators,
00:51:02.740 electricians, people that can build the grid with American products rather than Chinese products.
00:51:11.880 That's going to take time. But President Trump is the right one to launch that. He's the jobs
00:51:17.240 president, the construction president, and the manufacturing president. And I think we need to
00:51:22.340 remember that every day and go forward. David, where can people go? I'm going to have you back
00:51:28.340 on hopefully another day maybe tomorrow maybe next week about this new york times article about
00:51:33.080 the national debt and how nobody seems to care except for david malpass in the
00:51:37.100 where do people where do people go to get particularly you're writing there they're
00:51:43.400 allowing you to write some great op-eds in the wall street journal god bless you where do people
00:51:49.100 go to get them so on my twitter is uh at david r malpass uh that's on x but then you can put
00:51:58.200 into google put in malpass wsj what i did was the fake debt limit you know we they pretend in
00:52:06.200 washington that we control it and we don't it always goes up so we need a whole new system
00:52:11.320 to control government spending like the magna carta did with the kings of england wow in the
00:52:18.360 barons okay i'm gonna get on top of that we're gonna have you back on we need it brother more
00:52:22.320 than ever malpass keep fighting thank you sir thank you david malpass
00:52:26.980 former head of international finance for president trump in the first term 0.97
00:52:33.460 wow victory begets victory folks we're at 212 don't don't let people the black pill people 0.85
00:52:44.000 suck on this we're winning this thing it's a game of inches like the western front world war one it 0.95
00:52:51.980 ain't pretty. Remember, victory, a victory is a victory. Short break. 0.99
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