Bannon's War Room - May 13, 2026


Episode 5370： Assimilate Or Go Home; Taiwan Discussions During Xi Summit

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CIA officer testimony on lab leak immigration concerns China attacks US daily
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Donald Trump Joe Biden Anthony Fauci Bill Gertz Andy Ogles John Solomon Tommy Tuberville Jensen Wong Xi Jinping Elon Musk Chip Roy Philip Patrick Neil McCabe Sam Faddis Thayer John Quincy Adams Stephen K. Mann Sam Harris Todd Blanche Jack Paskovic and 18 more
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The CIA has been accused of covering up the existence of a deadly biological virus that could have wiped out millions of people in China. But the CIA has long maintained that the SARS-like virus came from a lab in China, and that it was the work of a rogue lab technician named Anthony Fauci. But new evidence suggests otherwise.

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00:00:00 I am a career CIA operations officer, and as you mentioned, I was on joint duty assignment at the Office of Director of National Intelligence Directors Initiatives Group, or the DIG, between March 2025 and April 2026.
00:00:16 I was responsible for leading the DIG's investigation into COVID origins, anomalous health incidents, and unidentified anomalous phenomena.
00:00:30 I'm here today to discuss the COVID cover-up, the national security implications associated
00:00:36 with the DIGS investigative findings, and CIA refusal to comply with lawful oversight,
00:00:42 as well as how we remedy these problems.
00:00:47 Intelligence community leaders and senior analysts downplayed the possibility that the
00:00:52 COVID pandemic originated as a result of a lab incident.
00:00:55 Motives are difficult to define, given the scope of the DIGS review.
00:01:03 Intentional or not, the IC's actions resulted in a cover-up, wasted resources, and a failure
00:01:10 to properly inform policy makers.
00:01:14 Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made 0.91
00:01:20 aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for 0.91
00:01:26 an emergency use authorization mRNA products being mandated by the former
00:01:32 administration. Dr. Fauci's role in the cover-up was intentional. Dr. Fauci
00:01:43 influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to
00:01:48 ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public
00:01:55 health officials, and scientists.
00:01:59 This included some of the authors of the paper, The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2, and other
00:02:05 public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years.
00:02:10 Your conclusion is that changing from the scientific consensus of it being from a lab
00:02:16 to a neutral position by the CIA was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci?
00:02:21 It was significantly influenced by Anthony Fauci's injecting himself into the IC.
00:02:28 And to go to the second part of your question about what happened,
00:02:32 particularly during the 90-day study,
00:02:34 we have documentation that shows that as of August 12th,
00:02:40 the CIA was considering calling this a lab leak, August 12th of 2021.
00:02:45 And then that changed on August 17th of 2021.
00:02:50 And unfortunately, because the CIA would not provide us documentation that we asked for,
00:02:54 we have no idea why that changed.
00:02:57 And they weren't alone because we know the FBI was coming to the same conclusion
00:03:01 that it was lab leak as well as the FBI.
00:03:06 Wednesday, 13 May in the year of our Lord, 2026.
00:03:09 Okay, tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time until midnight, at least,
00:03:14 We're going to cover live President Trump's formal arrival and greeting by the chairman of the Communist Party of China, Xi.
00:03:24 We're going to have Posobiec and Solomon and so many other people here, Dr. Thayer, others, for live coverage.
00:03:30 So make sure you're back here, Real America's Voice, the war room at 10 p.m. tonight.
00:03:35 It was a day, explosive testimony on Capitol Hill.
00:03:38 we're going to get to hopefully later the sharia uh supremacy the anti-sharia supremacy committee
00:03:46 chip roy and the team over there uh amazing testimony out of that but a bombshell by a cia
00:03:54 officer who just i guess retired former army special forces we've got a team of all stars
00:04:00 a senator tuberville is going to join us congressman andy ogles is going to join us
00:04:04 Bill Gertz is going to join us. We're going to talk China. But we got to start with this revelation in front of Rand Paul's committee. Our own Neil McCabe was there. Neil, essentially what the war room has been hammering, and people got to remember, the reason, the first time we were banned everywhere on all platforms, national platforms, were because of Anthony Fauci and this exact topic, of which they bought Collins, Fauci, the entire apparatus,
00:04:33 MSNBC, all of them, bald-faced lied about this.
00:04:37 What did we find out today about Anthony Fauci panicking and getting into the, what they
00:04:44 asked for was an independent assessment by the Central Intelligence Agency about the
00:04:48 bioweapon lab at Wuhan, sir?
00:04:53 Yeah, thanks, Steve.
00:04:54 You know, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, set up the Director's
00:04:59 investigation group, The Dig. And the purpose of The Dig is to sort of go back and find out
00:05:06 what happened in different things. I'm reminded of after the 2020 election, they discovered
00:05:12 that intelligence that said, hey, there was no Russian interference, was deliberately altered
00:05:18 as an official intelligence community assessment that they basically said, oh, wait, there was
00:05:25 Russian intelligence, and now for the 2016 campaign, excuse me, not for 2020. And so here
00:05:31 we have a guy who was looking into this for Tulsi Gabbard. He went to the CIA to find out what
00:05:37 happened. He was an active duty CIA officer, and the CIA blocked him at every turn, but he managed
00:05:45 to find out that the analysis by the intelligence community about the lab leak theory was altered
00:05:54 as we heard in the testimony between august 12th and august 17th of 2021 and the guy who was driving
00:06:02 it was dr fauci which means so many of the decisions that were made was based on the fact
00:06:11 that the intelligence community said they had no consensus on the origins of covid if they had come
00:06:19 forward and said, hey, it came from the Wuhan lab, which everyone agrees it happened, then you could
00:06:26 have made a whole other set of decisions. But it basically froze people from acting. And then,
00:06:33 of course, there was the cover up. And so he basically went through how the CIA was absolutely
00:06:39 not cooperative in his probe. And he basically left the CIA recently to retire. And now he's
00:06:45 coming forward to senator rand paul who was hosting this committee republicans showed up
00:06:51 none of the democrats did and it was uh it was it was absolutely mind-blowing to listen to what he
00:06:58 was explaining to think it's like it's something we all knew was true but we just were told it was
00:07:04 that we were imagining it yeah and now we got a guy from the inside and we'll get to that
00:07:08 neil hang on neil's that went back at the white house hang on neil i do want to talk to you about
00:07:13 Sharia and more on this. Just hang on. I want to get to Senator Tuberville. Senator Tuberville,
00:07:17 we're going to get to, uh, we got a clip from you on this situation with assimilation in Islam,
00:07:23 but I've got to ask you, cause you're one of the common sense folks up on Capitol Hill and you're
00:07:27 very close to the president. We've got, uh, we know, and you know, the Wuhan lab were doing,
00:07:33 uh, you know, gain of function to power up these viruses to be bioweapons. You had a leak, 0.92
00:07:38 Either they let it go purposely or it was a leak, okay?
00:07:43 You've got, we now know from John Solomon's reporting,
00:07:46 18 states the Chinese Communist Party broke into the data sets of the voter registration
00:07:51 to manipulate and defeat Trump in 2020 because President Trump was cleaning their clocks. 0.89
00:07:57 Now we know there's a mayor in Arcadia, in suburban L.A. or the greater L.A. network, 0.78
00:08:02 that is a town city that is a chinese communist party spy and my sources tell me they're going
00:08:11 to be thousands more that have come out when the fbi finishes his investigation that all being said
00:08:17 right even leaving the economics aside and what they're trying to do in chips and ai
00:08:21 shouldn't the president have a pretty blunt conversation with chairman xi as the kind of
00:08:27 kickoff tonight when we're covering this live when they meet at the forbidden city shouldn't
00:08:31 should he have a very blunt conversation about what the Chinese Communist Party has tried to do
00:08:36 as an enemy of the United States of America, sir? Yeah, I agree with you, Steve. You know, 0.96
00:08:41 President Trump holds all the cards here. You know, their country's dead broke. Now,
00:08:46 we're not far behind them now, but we've got a lot going for us. Our economy is going very well,
00:08:50 but their economy stinks. But President Trump has got a full, he's got a full house. And
00:08:57 And President Z has very few cards in his hand.
00:09:01 So I would hope that he would try to get to the bottom of this.
00:09:05 Steve, I was on the help committee when I first got here, went through all these interviews and hearings with Fauci. 0.99
00:09:11 What a piece of trash. 1.00
00:09:13 You know, this guy lied to the American people, killed a lot of American people. 1.00
00:09:19 And I'm telling you, you know, just listen to Todd Blanche.
00:09:22 We had lunch with him today here in the Senate and listened to all the problems that they're
00:09:28 trying to cover with the attorney general's office.
00:09:32 You know, we're going to lose this country if we don't wake up and smell the roads.
00:09:35 The American people are going to quit paying taxes.
00:09:38 They've had enough of this nonsense.
00:09:40 People need to go to jail.
00:09:41 But I got off your point there.
00:09:44 President Trump, I think that, you know, after probably getting briefed with what's going
00:09:49 on here on Capitol Hill today, that there could be some discussion with the Chinese president
00:09:56 about what happened. There's no doubt that it came from there, probably was on purpose. But 0.99
00:10:01 what nears bad is what they said it was. But at the end of the day, our federal government
00:10:07 was absolutely atrocious during the Biden's year, during COVID.
00:10:12 You sat through sworn testimony of Tony Fauci over and over again. Does anything the CIA
00:10:19 whistleblower said today about Fauci got actively involved in the intelligence community to shut
00:10:25 the probe down and to make sure the final report said from what the consensus was at the CIA and
00:10:30 among the intelligence community that this was a lab leak of a weaponized virus from the military
00:10:37 installment in Wuhan, China, to it was something that came from bats hanging out in caves, sir?
00:10:43 yeah it wasn't bad hanging out in caves it was all originated and probably paid for by us through
00:10:50 the gain of function research that Dr. Fauci just swore up and down that we weren't funding but we
00:10:55 found since then we found out that he was funding it and Rand Paul did a great job with with all the
00:11:01 hearings he really kept up with this Rand was on top of it being a doctor he understood the vaccine
00:11:06 he understood the things that were going on and he went after Fauci and and again we knew there
00:11:12 was a problem about a year or so ago before President Trump went in when President Biden
00:11:17 pardoned Fauci. We knew that we were getting to the bottom of it. John Solomon's done a great job,
00:11:24 all the people behind the scenes. This whistleblower is just one of many that's probably
00:11:28 going to come out. But again, the American people need some retribution here. They need somebody to
00:11:33 pay for the price for this. And again, this all started at the top. It was all orchestrated,
00:11:39 and it put the American people and our country in a tailspin.
00:11:44 And we probably, Steve, when I first got here,
00:11:46 we spent $7 trillion, Joe Biden did,
00:11:49 through reconciliation that we should have never spent.
00:11:52 I mean, it's just amazing the money that we spent up here.
00:11:54 And it all went to the blue cities, the mayors and the governors
00:11:57 that were dead broke, and money in the pockets of all these NGOs
00:12:01 across the world.
00:12:03 Senator, let's go ahead and play.
00:12:05 We're going to spend much more time on the Chinese situation.
00:12:07 Let's go ahead and play your clip and we'll get back to this assimilation issue.
00:12:12 Congressman, how do you measure that?
00:12:13 How do you enforce that?
00:12:15 That someone, I've seen how other countries measure it.
00:12:18 I know what they do in Turkey.
00:12:19 How do we do it? 0.94
00:12:21 How do we measure assimilation?
00:12:23 Well, you know, like the senator said, the first time we, one of the things we have to 0.99
00:12:26 do in this process, we have to deport, deport, and deport. 1.00
00:12:29 And then you analyze those folks that are coming into this country. 0.99
00:12:32 You got to love this country.
00:12:33 You have to have something, bring something to the table.
00:12:36 Have a job sponsor instead of coming here and getting on welfare. And look,
00:12:40 the numbers are unsustainable as they are. This isn't me being prejudiced. This is simple math.
00:12:46 We have deficits that are growing. We have spending that's out of control.
00:12:49 President Trump is working to get those numbers back in line, but that takes time.
00:12:54 Meanwhile, the Biden administration allowed our country to be invaded. We're taking a stand and
00:12:59 saying enough is enough. We want our country back. And if you don't love this country,
00:13:03 If you don't want to be a part of our country and provide and be a part of our society, you can get the hell out.
00:13:08 It seems pretty, pretty intuitive.
00:13:11 I don't know how that can be accused of being prejudiced.
00:13:13 I mean, anything, whether or not you're a company, a family or a nation would be asking,
00:13:17 should the people we invite into our front door who might be joining that company, family or country actually want to?
00:13:22 Or do they want to come in here and ruin it? 0.92
00:13:26 Islamists aren't coming here looking for a better life. 0.97
00:13:29 That's a true fallacy. 1.00
00:13:34 They're coming here to impose their radical beliefs on us and to mooch off the American taxpayers.
00:13:40 Game, set, match.
00:13:41 That's exactly why they're here.
00:13:42 They're coming to impose everything they possibly can on the United States of America, get by with it, and tear us down at the same time.
00:13:50 They have no interest in adapting to American national identity. 0.99
00:13:54 They want to change the national identity to a mirror, their death cult Islamic beliefs. 1.00
00:14:03 You heard that. They're here to kill us all. 1.00
00:14:07 Senator Tuberville, pretty blunt. We've got 30 seconds. I want to hold you through the break, sir. 0.99
00:14:12 How is that your blunt talk and assessment? How is that received by your colleagues in the Senate, sir?
00:14:19 Well, I'm the only senator that's really speaking out. 0.97
00:14:21 I'm actually on that caucus of Ship Roy's, the No Sharia caucus. 0.99
00:14:26 But at the end of the day, we've got to fix this immigration system, Steve. 1.00
00:14:31 We've got to do something. 1.00
00:14:32 We've got to prioritize, you know, who comes in this country. 1.00
00:14:35 If we don't, we're going to lose it. 0.99
00:14:37 I mean, it's going down the drain fast, but we have to prioritize.
00:14:41 Senator Tuberville, just hang on for one second.
00:14:43 A short commercial break.
00:14:44 We've got Senator Tommy Tuberville, the other gentleman in that clip, first clip.
00:14:48 Congressman Andy Ogles is with us. Also, Bill Gertz, China Islam in the war room.
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00:16:25 Islamists aren't coming here looking for a better life. 1.00
00:16:28 That's a true fallacy. 1.00
00:16:33 They're coming here to impose their radical beliefs on us
00:16:36 to mooch off the American taxpayers. Game, set, match. That's exactly why they're here. They're
00:16:42 coming to impose everything they possibly can on the United States of America, get by with it, 0.57
00:16:47 and tear us down at the same time. They have no interest in adapting to American national identity.
00:16:54 They want to change the national identity to mirror their death cult Islamic beliefs. 1.00
00:17:02 You heard that. They're here to kill us all. 1.00
00:17:06 That is pretty blunt, Senator. Why are you the only senator that is part of the anti-Sharia caucus, sir? Where are the rest of your colleagues? 0.93
00:17:17 Well, this is election year, Steve. And when you're in an election year, nobody wants to make any decisions. They want to straddle the fence. And we have some of our colleagues that we'll talk about a little bit, but they won't express it like I do.
00:17:29 I'm word to death. I'm word to death our country is is sinking fast because we've got our eyes shut.
00:17:36 And again, it's it's it's something that we all should know up here.
00:17:41 This place is not run on merit based when it comes to having leadership in the Senate.
00:17:48 It's all based on seniority. You can have somebody stay up here 40 years and and they might not be qualified to do any kind of job when it comes to chairmanships.
00:17:57 But because of seniority, they're here. We've got to change that. We've got to do everything merit-based, get away from seniority, and people will go home instead of get reelected.
00:18:06 And we've talked about that before. Term limits make no difference. Just go to merit-based selection on chairman and we'd be in good shape.
00:18:16 Senator, I want to tell you, if you've talked to the president about this, but the data is so overwhelming about the scamming of the legal immigration system, the H-1B visas. 0.54
00:18:25 I mean, we spent three months in Texas.
00:18:27 We're going back there for this primary with Ken Paxton.
00:18:32 The HB1 visas is just below the Sharia law problem.
00:18:39 And people, once we gave them a permission structure to talk about Sharia law, it exploded.
00:18:43 The folks out there in the United States see what the problem is every day, and they're shocked that their representatives, you know,
00:18:52 There's a handful of people like you and Congressman Ogles and Chip Roy and a handful of others that will take this on.
00:18:59 But the rest to know that you're the only member of the United States Senate as part of the anti-Sharia caucus is not acceptable, sir. 0.99
00:19:09 Well, the big thing that we need to tell and educate our people here in this country is that there's a reason that we're having a record amount of churches that are being burned, Christian churches. 0.97
00:19:20 Because there's a reason why we have a record amount of mosques that are being built all over this country. 1.00
00:19:26 And it started the same way in Europe. 0.99
00:19:30 And now look where they're at.
00:19:31 Europe is gone.
00:19:32 They're going to have to fight in the streets to get their countries back.
00:19:35 Italy, France, Germany, the U.K.
00:19:38 We're going to have to do the same thing if we don't wake up and stop this nonsense as we speak.
00:19:43 And I want to thank Andy Ogles here for what he's doing and Chip Roy, all the group over there.
00:19:49 But we need to get more people in line with this, especially the senators over speaking about this, because it's going to be too late if we if we continue to put this off.
00:19:58 Senator Tuberville, your staff saying you got to go vote now.
00:20:02 Thank you for coming on.
00:20:03 Where do people what are the social media?
00:20:05 You're one of the truth tellers up there that folks want to follow where they go, sir.
00:20:09 Coach for gov.
00:20:11 That's what we got, Steve.
00:20:12 Election next week.
00:20:15 Coach for gov.
00:20:16 Sir, thank you very much.
00:20:18 We will follow that closely.
00:20:19 Running for the governorship of Alabama in the primary.
00:20:22 Thank you, sir.
00:20:23 Go with God.
00:20:25 Andy Ogles, Congressman, you've been a fierce warrior on these topics, the most important to the MAGA base and to the grassroots in this country.
00:20:34 The question is, why is it a handful and why is it always the same handful of people that are out there that have the courage to come forward and speak out, sir?
00:20:43 Well, I mean, I think why you see so few people willing to say the, you know, really lead on these difficult conversations is look what they did to you.
00:20:55 Look what they did to me.
00:20:56 I've spent, you know, under the Biden administration, they came after me.
00:21:01 They weaponized the Justice Department to try to shut me down.
00:21:04 But I was going after Jack Smith.
00:21:06 I was going after Kamala Harris.
00:21:07 I had impeachment articles.
00:21:08 And just a few weeks later, after I had done those things, they're coming after me.
00:21:12 They're taking my phone.
00:21:12 And so there's this environment of intimidation that existed under the Biden administration, an administration that we knew that was corrupt.
00:21:22 Right. And if you dare speak out, if you dare try to hold them accountable, they came after you.
00:21:27 You know it better than anyone. President Trump knows it better than anyone.
00:21:30 I got a two year colonoscopy from the Justice Department because of the Biden administration.
00:21:36 And so but I never backed down. I held firm in my belief. I trusted in God.
00:21:40 And at the end of the day, you just keep moving forward.
00:21:43 And these conversations that we're having are important to the American people because our country is being invaded.
00:21:48 The southern border was wide open.
00:21:50 They led in terrorists.
00:21:51 They led in murderers.
00:21:52 They led in rapists. 1.00
00:21:53 And I'm sick of this crap. 1.00
00:21:54 And I'm not going to stand by and let this happen. 1.00
00:21:56 We need to deport these people.
00:21:58 We need to send them back to their countries. 0.98
00:21:59 And by the way, if you don't love this country, you shouldn't be here.
00:22:04 The fierceness of you and a handful of others.
00:22:06 Why is leadership?
00:22:08 Because this is a winning formula.
00:22:10 This is how we won in 16.
00:22:12 This is how we won again in 20 when they stole it.
00:22:14 This is how we came back from the greatest, you know, steal and suppression and oppression ever to win again record numbers in 24.
00:22:23 This is a winning formula.
00:22:25 The people in the United States will have your back.
00:22:27 What is House leadership?
00:22:29 What don't they get about these topics?
00:22:33 Well, again, you know, there is an environment of fear.
00:22:36 You have the slim majority, and I think sometimes they overthink it.
00:22:40 Just do the right thing.
00:22:42 The American people, when you look at immigration, when you look at the economy, when you look 0.55
00:22:46 at the issues we have with China, these are kitchen table type of topics that people are
00:22:52 talking about that they're worried about.
00:22:54 And if you talk to the American, the average person, and you address the things that they're
00:22:59 worried about, that they're concerned about, the rest take care of itself, right?
00:23:03 It's just, at the end of the day, it's common sense.
00:23:05 And so, you know, sometimes I get called a hero and a champion, and at the end of the day, I'm just doing what my constituents elected me to do, right?
00:23:13 John Quincy Adams, he liked the House of Representatives because it's where you argue and debate it. 0.99
00:23:17 And my job is to argue on behalf of the American people, and the American people are tired of this crap. 1.00
00:23:22 They're tired of giving their country away to the Somalis and the Chinese and to these people from South and Central America that they come here, they steal, they rape, and they murder Americans. 1.00
00:23:32 Enough is enough. 1.00
00:23:32 This is common sense.
00:23:33 You are you are a hero because you step up and you won't back down.
00:23:36 Let's just talk.
00:23:37 President Trump is going to you know, we're going to cover it live tonight from 10 to midnight.
00:23:41 Posovic, Solomon, the entire RAF crew.
00:23:44 We're going to have Thayer and others.
00:23:47 You know, we just had testimony today, the CIA about the lab.
00:23:50 You know about the lab.
00:23:51 You've been hammering for years.
00:23:53 You saw where now John Solomon's breaking.
00:23:55 They broke into 18 to 24 state databases for voter registration to change the thing on the 2020 election.
00:24:05 And now you've got a mayor, and the mayor has admitted that she's a spy for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:24:10 In my understanding, there's going to be thousands more that come out.
00:24:13 Given all that, how can we even have a discussion talking about trade when we've got to get through, hey, what you're doing to us in this war that you have against the United States of America, sir?
00:24:24 Well, you know, I think the president goes to China with a strong hand.
00:24:30 So I'm chairman of cybersecurity for Homeland, also includes AI.
00:24:36 And, you know, when I get the classified briefings, I get the types of classified briefings that most members of Congress don't get.
00:24:43 And what I can tell you is China attacks us every single day.
00:24:47 There's another war that's taking place.
00:24:49 It's that unseen war, and it's in the cybersphere. 0.61
00:24:52 And China is trying to attack and steal. 0.76
00:24:55 They steal intellectual property. 0.82
00:24:57 And so the president is able to go to China, and we know. 0.98
00:25:00 We've caught them red-handed. 0.52
00:25:02 And so at the end of the day, there's an economic component to it.
00:25:06 When you look at oil, when you look at the war in Iran, there's a lot to unpack there.
00:25:11 But at the end of the day, they are another global power.
00:25:15 They're not as great as America, but they want to be.
00:25:18 They want to take us out, quite frankly.
00:25:20 And the president knows that.
00:25:21 He understands that. And so, you know, the president is a shrewd negotiator out of the deal.
00:25:26 And he'll be there arguing. And quite frankly, on behalf of the American people, you're saying from the briefings you got, these are daily attack, daily cyber attacks.
00:25:36 Every day, every day, all day. OK, hang on. We got a clip for you.
00:25:40 I want to play it. I'm going to come back. We're going to commercial break and stick with Congressman Andy Owens.
00:25:45 Let's go and play the clip. I live out in the country on top of a hill on a farm.
00:25:49 So these cars were out of place.
00:25:52 And he comes in and says, Dad, there's some cars across the street.
00:25:55 Well, it turns out those cars were the FBI.
00:25:57 If you cut a deal and walk away from your political office,
00:26:00 if you would stop the fight, the persecution would go away.
00:26:03 And I said, buddy, if we don't get out of politics,
00:26:06 they're going to destroy us personally.
00:26:08 They're going to destroy us financially.
00:26:09 They're going to destroy us politically.
00:26:11 People who would like to serve in this administration,
00:26:14 People who would like to repair the damage done by the partisan acts of the Biden administration
00:26:19 pretty reluctant to do so because they realize that the left's lawfare will destroy their careers as well.
00:26:26 The FBI opened a secret preliminary investigation on me called Operation Rampart 12.
00:26:35 Contractor Booz Allen went out and stole my tax returns and gave it to ProPublica.
00:26:41 Biden administration did nothing.
00:26:42 Trump is in China right now. These are stories I would expect to hear at a
00:26:47 press conference over there. There may be a day that if you print a story and
00:26:53 it's not to the liking of the deep state who are the epitome of weaponized
00:26:59 wiretaps, you may not be able to write that story. So over the last two
00:27:03 years we've had to fight, declare my name, and to this day our son still has
00:27:11 nightmares that the Biden administration in the middle of the night or some morning is going to
00:27:16 come in and take his dad away. Congressman Ogles, it's not simply the Biden administration. It's
00:27:22 also the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy that believes that they run the country that
00:27:27 came after you and targeted you and others, correct? Absolutely. And that fear is real.
00:27:33 So when you look at that video, by the way, shout out to Giancarlo for making it. He did a great
00:27:38 job. But that being said, it's real. I mean, even today, even though that Trump is, he's the
00:27:46 president of the United States, he's the commander in chief, he's a friend. And knowing that he's a
00:27:50 friend and knowing that he's righting the wrongs that were done under the Biden administration,
00:27:54 there's a part of me when I get up in the morning, the first thing I do is I look out my front
00:27:57 window because there's that trauma, that PTSD, if you will. And I'm not comparing myself to any
00:28:04 soldier that has ptsd full disclosure but that being said it's real uh because it changes the
00:28:09 way you think about life understanding that they want to take you out yeah right they're coming
00:28:15 hang on one second we got a short break congressman andy ogles from tennessee next
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00:29:49 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:29:53 Congressman, the president thinks very highly of you because you're a fighter. He likes
00:29:57 the cut of your jib, as we say in the Navy. Given everything that's going on, Iran, the war,
00:30:04 the economy, we just had a bad print today in inflation, that you're one of the leaders of the
00:30:09 anti-CCP movement, what would you think would be our best outcome? And what advice would you give
00:30:15 the President of the United States in this two-day negotiation? He's going to be there over in Beijing
00:30:19 with Xi, sir. Absolutely. We have to leave from a position of strength. And they need to understand
00:30:25 if you want access to our markets, we have access to yours. They need to understand that if you
00:30:29 steal our IP, there's going to be a consequence. You know, there's an example where China hacked
00:30:35 a European auto manufacturer. They stole their intellectual property. They used it in their
00:30:39 car's BYD. They put malicious software in that European manufacturer's car, set them back a year.
00:30:45 And so this is how China operates. And if you play that game with us, 0.96
00:30:49 we are going to come, we're going to, there's going to be a payback. There's going to be
00:30:52 retribution. In the same way, if Mexico were to launch a mortar into Texas, there's going to be
00:30:57 a response. China needs to understand if you hack our companies, if you steal our IP, we're tired
00:31:02 of the nonsense. We're playing for keeps and we're going to come back at you. Congressman, you chair
00:31:07 the subcommittee on cyber. Given AI, what we've heard of Anthropic in the mythos preview, and now
00:31:14 we heard Google talking about an AI cyber attack, are you more optimistic or less optimistic that
00:31:22 we can get our hands around this thing with AI and these cyber techs, sir?
00:31:26 Well, I mean, AI is an incredible tool.
00:31:30 And just for your audience to understand, you know, the United States of America, we
00:31:33 are the dominant predator across all landscapes.
00:31:35 So air, sea, cyber, space, we own it all.
00:31:39 But that being said, AI is something that can change that dynamic quickly.
00:31:43 And, you know, in my role, I've had the opportunity to use kind of a jailbroken or unrestricted
00:31:50 AI.
00:31:50 and I was able to get it to help me construct a bomb, quite frankly.
00:31:56 It even told me how to make a detonation device, how I should transport it.
00:32:02 So it can also be used for very dangerous ways and means.
00:32:07 And so we need to put up guardrails to keep Americans safe. 0.58
00:32:11 We also need to understand that China is not going to put up those guardrails. 0.77
00:32:14 They're pushing forward because they want to beat us in quantum computing
00:32:17 and they want to beat us as far as the agents and their capability for artificial intelligence.
00:32:24 And so we're in a new arms race. 0.56
00:32:26 So before with Russia, it was nukes. 0.68
00:32:27 Who had the most nukes? 0.83
00:32:29 Who had the fastest missiles?
00:32:31 This new arms race is over cyber, AI, and over, of course, computing power. 0.95
00:32:36 And so we need to understand that China is our adversary. 0.96
00:32:39 They don't play fair. 0.93
00:32:40 And we need to understand that in any negotiation, in any relationship that we have with China, 0.98
00:32:45 that they cheat and they will steal. 0.96
00:32:47 Congressman where do people follow you sir
00:32:50 You can go to Rep Ogles
00:32:52 You can go to AndyOgles.com
00:32:53 I'm pretty easy to find
00:32:54 I'm out there all the time
00:32:56 And certainly appreciate your support
00:32:58 And hey I'm up for election this go around
00:33:01 So check it out
00:33:02 And I appreciate you, your listeners
00:33:04 And quite frankly you never backed down
00:33:06 They came after you
00:33:07 And here you are back on air
00:33:09 Fighting for freedom
00:33:10 And for that I thank you
00:33:11 Thank you Congressman
00:33:13 Look forward to covering your race
00:33:15 No, you've got a new district or been redistributed.
00:33:19 Congressman Andy Ogles, that's a fighter.
00:33:21 Let's go ahead.
00:33:21 We're going to be here at 10 o'clock tonight.
00:33:23 Let's go and play the promo, and then we'll bring in the great Bill Gertz.
00:33:28 Tonight, the eyes of the world are locked on Beijing,
00:33:31 the two greatest superpowers on Earth meeting face-to-face.
00:33:37 President Donald Trump and Xi Jinping,
00:33:40 two leaders whose decisions could reshape the future of the planet.
00:33:43 He's for China and I'm for the USA.
00:33:45 and it's very simple.
00:33:46 What will be decided about Iran?
00:33:48 What will be said about Taiwan?
00:33:50 And who will emerge as the economic superpower of the future?
00:33:53 Behind closed doors, the stakes could not be higher.
00:33:56 Markets, militaries, allies, enemies,
00:33:58 the whole world watching every move.
00:34:00 Together, Real America's Voice and The War Room
00:34:03 are taking you inside the story. 0.93
00:34:05 We're in war with China. 0.84
00:34:06 My recommendation is throw down hard.
00:34:08 Join Steve Bannon alongside special guest Jack Posokic
00:34:11 and more.
00:34:12 Trump in China.
00:34:13 Special coverage begins tonight, 10 p.m. Eastern to midnight, only on Real America's Voice.
00:34:19 That's the way it is. That's the way it stands. We're going to do very well.
00:34:25 Bill Gertz joins us from The Washington Times. Bill Gertz is the original gangster of covering
00:34:31 the Chinese Communist Party in a very deep and thorough way. Bill, you had a table setter,
00:34:37 what I called the other day in The Washington Times. Can you walk us through your thoughts
00:34:42 as we get ready to do live coverage tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time
00:34:46 of President Trump being greeted and received
00:34:49 by the chairman of the Chinese Communist Party, Chairman Xi.
00:34:53 Yeah, we're looking at pretty much of a standoff
00:34:57 between the U.S. and China.
00:35:00 And the business side of things, I think, is very significant
00:35:05 in the president's entourage.
00:35:07 He's got a group of pro-China business people,
00:35:10 Elon Musk, Tim Cook, Jensen Wang, and they want to make deals.
00:35:16 On the positive side, we've got Marco Rubio, Cuban-American anti-communist, and Pete Hegseth, I think, was the big stick for the president's group that's in China.
00:35:30 I'm very concerned about the discussions on artificial intelligence. 0.97
00:35:36 This is a Trojan horse for the Chinese. 1.00
00:35:38 They want to do some type of, quote, AI safety agreement. 0.94
00:35:43 That is, don't connect your AI to the nuclear things. 0.56
00:35:48 China can't be trusted to do any agreement. 0.81
00:35:50 I think the Chinese will say or Xi Jinping will tell Trump, he'll say, yeah, sure, we'll agree to AI safety as long as you loosen all controls on the most advanced NVIDIA AI chips.
00:36:04 Well, you've got Jensen.
00:36:05 Look, I'm blunt.
00:36:06 I think Elon Musk and Jensen Wong are agents of influence for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:36:12 Elon's been financed through Tesla and other things.
00:36:15 His mother's over there right now as a TV personality and TV star.
00:36:20 He's up to his neck.
00:36:21 In the 100th anniversary of the CCP, he put out glowing tweets about how great they were.
00:36:28 Jensen Wong's worse.
00:36:30 Jensen Wong has said, oh, you know, these guys want to do business and they're good and you can trust them.
00:36:35 And it doesn't matter if China wins the AR race. It doesn't matter if a Chinese company wins the AR race.
00:36:40 He just wants to sell them more advanced ships. So given that's a reality. Right.
00:36:45 And these guys say we and look at the cast. He's got Fink. He's got Schwartzman. He's got Elon Musk.
00:36:49 He's got you couldn't put together a bigger group of demons to come there and they want to open China.
00:36:55 And President Trump, I realize, he's trying to balance a lot, including the global economy. 0.69
00:36:59 but uh the chinese communist party you know the the the pandemic out of the wuhan lab you heard
00:37:06 the cia officer today the mayor of arcadia is one of thousands that are out there they broke into 20 0.82
00:37:12 uh they 20 uh databases of states to to assist biden who was on their payroll to steal the 2020
00:37:21 election from president trump president trump's the only person bill as you know because he reads
00:37:26 you your columns constantly is the only ones ever stood up to china but now they want to because of
00:37:32 the economic problem and the problem in the middle east uh they want some sort of accommodation sir
00:37:39 yeah um to me the uh inflection point was about the middle of last year when china announced it
00:37:49 was imposing export restrictions on rare earths. 0.65
00:37:53 The Communist Party views its control over rare earths as a major trump card.
00:37:59 Sorry for the pun there, but a major trump card.
00:38:02 They control like 90% of the rare earths, which are needed for everything from warplanes to automobiles.
00:38:10 And that was a shock to the Trump administration.
00:38:13 Trump had been putting in tariffs.
00:38:15 I think at one point they reached, on China, 147%.
00:38:20 Well, everything changed after that.
00:38:22 And then fast forward to the October summit in South Korea, and they backed down.
00:38:29 There was a truce in the trade war.
00:38:31 Now we're seeing a detente.
00:38:34 Remember detente?
00:38:35 Yeah, the Soviet Union, right?
00:38:37 That was in the 70s when we decided we were going to do arms agreements with the Soviet
00:38:43 Union.
00:38:43 And again, basically, it was bolstering this communist regime.
00:38:49 It was not regime change in Moscow, which Reagan successfully orchestrated.
00:38:56 So I think there's a lot of dangers in this summit. 0.85
00:39:01 Well, they're also arming, they're doing the Ovalon route and arming the Persians. 0.97
00:39:05 That's their ally. 0.90
00:39:06 They're trying to break the U.S. dollar and get us off the petrodollar with doing the deals in Chinese yuan.
00:39:13 Also, they've got the, as Sam Faddis says, the 25 ships off of Malaysia that they're trying to get the oil through to basically get around sanctions every second.
00:39:23 What would be your, given the situation we are in Iran, what would be your recommendation to the president of the United States as he kicks off tonight at 10 p.m., as he kicks off the beginning of, looks like, an eight-hour negotiation, sir?
00:39:36 Well, I think the first thing would be, I mean, there would be two or three main things.
00:39:42 But the first thing that the president should bring up is Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon.
00:39:50 Those are the code names by security researchers for massive Chinese hacking operations.
00:39:55 And not just to steal information, for cyber sabotage, to get inside of all of our critical infrastructures,
00:40:03 Water, communications, electrical grid, financial sector, every area
00:40:09 They are inside the wire right now with those penetrations and access points
00:40:14 Back in 2015, we saw Obama factlessly try to reach an agreement with Xi Jinping
00:40:22 Say, hey, don't hack us, we won't hack you
00:40:24 Guess who lied? You know, the Chinese 1.00
00:40:27 So really, I think that that should be a starting point 1.00
00:40:31 What the Chinese have done cyber-wise to our infrastructure and theft, and it's all connected to AI. 1.00
00:40:40 You know, they're massive data collectors. 0.99
00:40:42 All they need from us is the advanced computer chips, and they'll have the most advanced artificial intelligence systems.
00:40:50 Should we cut off Jensen Wong and these guys are sitting there wanting to press to sell more chips? 0.69
00:40:55 Should we cut the Chinese, all the ecosystem, cut them off of all chips, cut them off of every kid here studying at MIT, cut them off of everybody in an American company in a U.S. lab, all money, think you can't give them a debt, Schwarzman, you can't give them equity, go hardcore. 0.80
00:41:11 Is that what actually should happen here, sir? 0.99
00:41:14 Oh, absolutely.
00:41:15 There should be no doubt.
00:41:17 I wouldn't even, I wouldn't see, I agree with Sam Faddis.
00:41:20 The president should never have gone to China considering the conditions that there are.
00:41:25 But, you know, Trump sees himself as a great dealmaker.
00:41:30 He doesn't understand the nature.
00:41:33 Excuse me, got a cough here.
00:41:35 He doesn't understand the nature, the ideological nature of his interlocutor.
00:41:40 Xi Jinping is a hardline communist.
00:41:43 He's trying to manage Trump.
00:41:45 He's trying to flatter Trump.
00:41:47 He knows Trump likes to make deals. 1.00
00:41:49 The Chinese, they don't believe in deals. 1.00
00:41:51 You know, I had a friend who spent 15 years doing business in China. 0.99
00:41:56 He said for the Chinese, a deal is only valid on the day that it's signed.
00:42:01 As soon as the conditions changed after that day, the Chinese don't feel bound by any deals
00:42:07 or agreements.
00:42:08 I don't think Trump fully understands that.
00:42:10 But yet he wants to get a lot of business deals.
00:42:13 He wants Boeing to sell some jet liners.
00:42:15 He wants to get China to buy some soybeans.
00:42:19 But he needs to understand that China is an existential threat to the United States. 0.95
00:42:25 They are on the march globally. 0.98
00:42:26 They want to take over the world.
00:42:28 The only impediment to that is the United States. 0.63
00:42:31 The other narrative that China is pushing is this notion that the U.S. is in decline and China is in the ascension.
00:42:38 Trump is trying to disabuse Xi Jinping of that notion.
00:42:42 But I think he's got an uphill battle in trying to do that.
00:42:47 bill gertz where do we go we're going to push out your on the washington times your font of
00:42:53 information where social media website books where do people go uh gertz file.com or my
00:42:59 all my books are on amazon and uh of course the washington times i have a weekly column inside
00:43:07 the ring and i also do a podcast victory over communism with bill gertz sir you're one of the
00:43:14 original warriors here and the mentor to all of us. So thank you very much, Bill Gertz.
00:43:19 Thank you, Steve. Keep up the great work.
00:43:22 Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
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00:51:01 to your personal life in the life of the nation needs to happen live coverage tonight 10 p.m
00:51:08 to midnight we're going to have a cast of characters on you don't want to miss it the
00:51:13 live coverage of President Trump's formal arrival and formal greeting by Chairman Xi,
00:51:18 and then they start the meetings, all-day meetings.
00:51:20 So we're going to have best thoughts on China, geopolitics, all of it.
00:51:25 Mike Lindell, people love the fact you're running for governor,
00:51:28 but right now they want to talk deals.
00:51:32 What do you got for us?
00:51:33 Well, Steve, I'm just down here in our studio where we do our commercials.
00:51:37 I'm reading an article that just came out.
00:51:39 It says, is MyPillow the most attacked company in history?
00:51:43 Well, we all know that, everybody, but we're still standing.
00:51:46 And what we're doing, our Memorial Day mattress sale.
00:51:49 I'm here right now.
00:51:51 You combine it with the MyPillow.
00:51:53 It's the best sleep system in history.
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00:52:13 free shipping right to your front door, everybody, and now's the time to get a brand new mattress
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00:52:24 under $300. That's a line that we're closing out, so when you go to mypillow.com forward slash
00:52:31 war room, you see right there, you click on that first square, all our mattresses, box springs,
00:52:37 bed frames, adjustable frames, mattress protectors, everything to do with the mattress on sale,
00:52:43 And your whole order ships entirely free right to your front door.
00:52:47 We have all the other sales there.
00:52:48 We have the MyPillows.
00:52:49 We still have $14.98.
00:52:52 You guys have kept my employees busy.
00:52:55 You guys call 800-843-1062.
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00:53:12 promo code war room thank you brother appreciate you we'll see you tomorrow in the morning hour
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