00:00:59.040So we encourage all contacts and our recommendation, we'll hear from the emergency committee what the recommendations are.
00:01:06.880All contacts, all cases should not travel.
00:01:10.120So we would like to all countries and appreciate what they have done so far.
00:01:14.360That's the first step of defense in terms of a global health security.
00:01:19.220Second element, countries are doing point of exit screening.
00:01:24.300Both Uganda and DRC are already doing that.
00:01:26.980So in support of the activity done by Uganda and DRC and going in this humanitarian conflict area, supporting them is the best medicine for the entire world in support of solidarity of DRC.
00:01:40.720It's a complex, as DG said, hundreds of thousands displaced population, insecurity, travel restrictions.
00:17:06.500But I was talking to Dr. Thayer in the break before we started the show.
00:17:09.760And he was just so amped up about the newly unsealed indictment against Royal Castro
00:17:15.300and some other bad hombres, as I'm sure President Trump would call them.
00:17:18.800So I want to let you start with that. I know it's big news for us communist haters here in the United States.
00:17:25.680So why don't you walk us through what exactly these indictments are, what they're about, and the broader implication for what is unfolding with Cuba.
00:17:33.040Obviously, the CIA had a very interesting tweet, posting some pictures from there. What is going on down there?
00:17:41.580And so Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch unsealed indictments against Raul Castro.
00:17:48.600Raul Castro is a thug and one of the dictators that have been ruling Cuba since Fidel Castro,
00:17:57.060Raul Castro's brother, of course, more famous brother, came to power in 1959 and then quickly0.85
00:18:03.240became a Soviet ally. Very dangerous, really, locus of Soviet power and then later Chinese0.98
00:18:10.460communist power influence in the Western Hemisphere. So what Acting Attorney General
00:18:16.760Todd Blanche did is indict Raul Castro for the murders of three Americans. Four individuals
00:18:23.700were killed in two Cessna aircraft in 1996 when they were shot down in international airspace
00:18:30.640by Cuban MiG-29s. And those individuals were in support of an organization called Brothers
00:18:40.320to the rescue, which were trying to help Cubans fleeing across the Florida Strait into the United
00:18:46.620States. So it was an absolutely outrageous act by the Cuban government at the time Raul Castro was
00:18:54.200the dominant figure in the Cuban government. So justice is coming for Raul Castro finally.
00:19:03.280The indictment, of course, is going to ask the Cuban government to turn Raul Castro over. We'll
00:19:08.000see whether that happens or whether there's some type of Maduro operation against him.
00:19:15.120It's important, though, to take a step back and think also about why Cuba was so important,
00:19:20.440why Cuba is a critical issue. The Trump administration has announced its strategy
00:19:26.460of hemispheric defense, and that is the U.S. is going to use all the tools at its disposal0.86
00:19:32.240to eject communist China from the Western Hemisphere.
00:19:38.280And Cuba really is the mother load of that, because as important as Venezuela was, Maduro
00:19:43.200in Venezuela, Cuba has been the railhead for anti-American activities, again, since 1959.
00:19:53.700We can't forget the Cuban Missile Crisis, where Fidel Castro invited the Soviets to deploy
00:20:00.400medium-range and intermediate-range ballistic missiles, leading to one of the major crises of
00:20:05.780the Cold War. The Cubans sent forces to Africa, to Angola, Mozambique, and elsewhere during the
00:20:14.480Cold War to fight against U.S. allies and hosted Soviet bases in Cuba. Once the Cold War fell,
00:20:23.540once the Soviets died in 1991, the Communist Chinese took over those intelligence bases and0.99
00:20:30.340they've been using them. So the key element here is for hemispheric defense, getting rid of the0.99
00:20:36.580communist government of Cuba is absolutely essential. And this indictment is a step forward,
00:20:42.060a very positive step forward, not only for justice for the three Americans who were killed0.88
00:20:48.480in that attack in 1996, but also for hemispheric defense and ejecting the0.82
00:20:56.500Chinese communists from the Western Hemisphere.
00:21:02.280Dr. Thayer, taking a step back, and I guess it sort of links to the Taiwan stuff, but
00:21:07.460where do you sort of draw the line? I know our audience has a wide array of opinions on, you
00:21:13.960know, non-interventionism, foreign interventionism, adventurism, you know,
00:21:19.140containment, not dealing with these countries, you know, take your pick. But with what we're
00:21:24.160doing in cuba is is it zero sum is it a means to an end and that end is cuba and it's just about
00:21:30.060dealing with the spread of communism there and the quality of life of the people living there
00:21:33.500or is this something that you think is is about a broader plan and goal to eradicate whether it's
00:21:42.100the chinese communist party and their string of allies countries that they're you know interwoven
00:21:47.840with or what do you think is really animating the trump administration's newfound and sort of going
00:21:53.180back a while, pretext to kind of make the case that, you know, United States involvement,
00:22:01.340to some extent, kinetic otherwise, is justified in Cuba.
00:22:06.400Yes, well, the Trump administration has emphasized rebalancing, right, to make the
00:22:10.200Western Hemisphere significant again, when it has been neglected, really, in U.S. national
00:22:16.420security for a considerable amount of time. And that allowed the Soviets, of course, to expand0.61
00:22:21.900And their influence, Nicaragua, Grenada, elsewhere, of course, El Salvador during the Cold War, and then the Chinese communists since.
00:22:32.440So the emphasis of the Trump administration has been really a rebalancing, again, calling attention to the Western Hemisphere and its importance.
00:22:42.480And to stress the point, Cuba is the railhead really of anti-American sentiment in the Western0.97
00:22:52.360Hemisphere and anti-American action and allowing that island, of course, to be used by the Chinese0.87
00:23:00.120communists. Again, that island so close to the United States is such an important intelligence0.88
00:23:04.860gathering facility for the Chinese communists. So it's a very important step forward.1.00
00:23:12.480I don't think, of course, the administration, every administration has, of course, talked about the dangers of Cuba going back really to Eisenhower, the Eisenhower administration and Kennedy administration, of course, which sponsored the Bay of Pigs, the effort by Cuban exiles in April of 1961 to overthrow the Castro regime.
00:23:35.220Sadly, that failed at that time. But this is a real chance to move ahead with the elimination0.98
00:23:42.400of a national security threat and the opportunity, of course, to bring about really dramatic change
00:23:50.300in Cuba. So I think we need to think of it really as being in our next door, right? It's
00:23:57.980definitely our neighborhood, 90 miles away from Key West, famously. If you've ever been there and
00:24:04.120seen the monument, the marker there in Key West. So it's a very different situation than I think
00:24:14.460we see elsewhere in the world, for example, Afghanistan or Iraq or elsewhere.
00:24:21.860If you were advising the Trump administration, right, on all of these sort of direct but indirect
00:24:27.900ways to go after the Chinese Communist Party, I think particularly their expansion into proxies,
00:24:32.960whether they're proximal to the United States or proximal to China, so they're more reliant on
00:24:37.740them for fuel or whatnot. Do you think that going after some of these countries, you know,
00:24:42.940I think Iran is probably the best example, Venezuela, through kinetic means, certainly a
00:24:49.040unique derivation of kinetic, like what we saw go down in Venezuela. But do you think that that is
00:24:54.740the most effective way? And how do you then square that? I'm aware this is a long question, but
00:25:00.700with the kind of softer rhetoric and softening almost on Taiwan? Because arguably, I think you
00:25:09.180would probably agree with me that is that not the most important kind of proxy for the Chinese
00:25:14.080Communist Party's global ambitions and kind of a proxy for their standing in the world vis-a-vis
00:25:19.520the United States? How do you sort of make sense of all of that? Well, I would say both are
00:25:25.540important. Cuba is significant and Taiwan is absolutely significant for the reasons we've
00:25:31.940stressed many times on the show. But Cuba is a threat under communism. They've had a very
00:25:37.920aggressive intelligence collection operations in the United States, had some very important spies
00:25:43.420and very damaging spies in the United States, as well as facilitating the Chinese communist bases.0.75
00:25:50.760So it is a threat. Taiwan, of course, and maintaining the situation, the current situation with Taiwan is essential because Taiwan is first economically so important.0.56
00:26:03.120It's that the computer chip superpower, of course.
00:26:07.000And if that facilities, if the facilities were destroyed, then there would be profound effects for all Americans and the world economy.
00:26:17.980Secondly, of course, it's the cork in the bottle. It occupies critical geostrategic real estate and the first island chain between Japan, really, and the Philippines.
00:26:31.380And then it's also significant because in the realm of political warfare, Taiwan shows us what China might have been if the communists hadn't come to power.
00:26:43.260So it's absolutely significant, and we'll see what the Trump administration does with the $14 billion military aid package to Taiwan.0.71
00:26:56.360I would hope that that would move forward because maintaining the status quo in Taiwan is absolutely essential given the tremendous pressure that the Taiwanese government is under and the Taiwanese people are under from communist China.
00:27:13.260And, Natalie, you've been there, of course, and you've had important interviews with Taiwanese officials.0.95
00:27:21.060It really is critical for demonstrating what China could have been and what China may be at some point again if the Chinese communist government falls at some point in time.
00:27:35.100Yeah, the Taiwanese people, Taiwan, is an awesome country.
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00:29:46.040War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:29:52.240You're back in the War Room where I just want to reiterate something.0.58
00:29:56.160We know Xi Jinping are probably their, what is it, their Wu Mao army.
00:29:59.960They probably watch a lot of War Room.
00:30:01.460I hope we've radicalized some of them.0.77
00:30:04.040But there's nothing about the Thucydides trap that is accurate, not only because the Harvard pseudo-intellectual academic that wrote it is a puppet for the Chinese Communist Party.
00:30:14.340He has visited China God knows how many times.
00:30:16.720He stealthily met with Xi Jinping when he was over there in 2024.
00:30:20.320That should tell you all you need to know about this guy who spends more time networking with Chinese Communist Party influence group fronts than probably teaching at Harvard.
00:30:29.620But maybe that's the point of being a teacher at Harvard.
00:30:32.520He also used to be the dean at the Harvard Kennedy School. Maybe that explains why so many of our next generation of leaders are so in bed and compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, literally.0.87
00:30:43.320I would say I'm looking at Eric Swallow, but I think he's had a rough run these last few weeks, so we'll let him take a break on that one.
00:30:50.200But it is not true. It's not political writing or political theory. It is, I mean, could only be described as psychological warfare.
00:30:59.080There's nothing inevitable about America's decline.
00:31:03.400They treat it like it's the third law of, you know, physics or like the gravitational pull of the moon or the earth where it's just true that American elites are going to sell out to China.0.65
00:31:14.700And America doesn't have to be on the decline if our elites actually don't let us outsource our jobs or fall for the Chinese Communist Party's lies about outsourcing jobs and manufacturing and doing joint ventures or partnering with them on a myriad of things, including but not limited to buying farmland.0.67
00:31:31.880And I would also make the point, I know Xi Jinping thinks that MAGA has so much in common with Xiism and the Chinese Communist Party.0.60
00:31:39.840Not quite. You have nothing in common with the MAGA movement.
00:31:42.640I think you'd misdiagnosed us for, we are not the Democratic Party.
00:31:46.740You seem to have a little more in common with them since you've been busy compromising mayors in California and probably all the way up to the previous president.
00:31:56.180The last point I would make on that, if there's any country, I think, that has proven that the Thucydides trap is wrong, you don't have to be a country in decline and that has to fight all odds, it's actually Taiwan.
00:32:07.320Not just creating a semiconductor industry out of virtually thin air, but prevailing and just surviving every single day against whether it's air incursions, boat incursions, incursion, psychological warfare attacks from the Chinese Communist Party, everything that they try to do to the United States.
00:32:25.500Believe me, Taiwan is on the front lines. Election manipulation, intimidation, assassination attempts, straight up buying off the opposition party.0.57
00:32:34.860I mean, the KMT is basically just an outgrowth of the CCP at this point.
00:32:40.220But much like the MAGA movement, the grassroots there, the ZPP, they actually, I think, understand what it means to care about your country, your civilization and your future.
00:32:51.020and not just, you know, sell your country out to the highest bidder,
00:32:55.380which I would encourage American politicians, particularly Democrat mayors,
00:32:59.640if you get a check from someone who, you know, it's probably racist,
00:33:03.500but, you know, it's Chinese and their name can be linked back
00:33:07.600to a Chinese Communist Front organization.
00:33:09.640Maybe don't take the money because they're trying to compromise you,
00:33:13.080Dr. Thayer, I know you know a lot about that.
00:33:15.500Before we let you go, your sort of concluding thoughts,
00:33:17.840where you left off talking about all things Taiwan,
00:33:20.720the fate of this arms package, and just in general, what you think the audience needs
00:33:26.280to be looking ahead for on all things Taiwan and China more broadly.
00:33:31.800Well, we'll want to see, of course, what happens to that arms package, Natalie.
00:33:36.200And again, you and I both hope that it moves ahead, given the importance of Taiwan.
00:33:42.220And then also, we want to keep in mind, too, that we've got to be able to focus, of course,
00:33:48.680on the Western Hemisphere as well. And Cuba is, again, so important. And that's why Attorney
00:33:54.280General Todd Blanche's, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche's indictments today against Raul
00:34:00.440Castro are so important, right? We can't indict Xi Jinping, right, although we should. But
00:34:08.680indicting Raul Castro is a very positive step forward in political warfare against communism.
00:34:15.040And, again, it's important to recognize that it's one of the guys who has oppressed the Cuban people for so long, has been actively thwarting, fighting, and killing Americans, as the indictment shows.
00:34:31.400Well, Xi Jinping has as well, so there's a good logic and a parallel for indicting him at some point for his crimes against the Chinese people, the actions that he's taken through the Communist Party and elsewhere.
00:34:43.720But some good news today with Raul Castro. That's a very positive step. And I'd expect that things move ahead on the Cuba front, perhaps in the weeks and months to come.
00:34:56.920I like the idea of a she indictment. Maybe we could rewrite the take down the CCP song. We'll have to update the verb.
00:35:04.620Dr. Bayer, as always, thank you so much for coming on. If you want to say something, add it, but let the audience know where they can get the book, stay up to date with everything you're working on.
00:35:13.120Well, it'd be nice to see Raul Castro on the dock with Xi Jinping, right?
00:35:37.980But let's play the cold and then let's hear about our dystopian future.
00:35:42.400from the one and only Joe Allen. Secretary, before you go, final word on AI,
00:35:47.900artificial intelligence, because I know you called a meeting. Some people said it was an
00:35:51.440emergency meeting to talk about the banks and AI after a breach of Anthropoc. What can you tell us
00:36:00.500about this issue? Is this a systemic issue? Should we be worried about AI hacking our bank accounts?
00:36:08.140You shouldn't, Maria. And the U.S. government has gotten involved, the AI companies that are
00:36:16.080working with us. What we've had in the past month was a step change in the power of one
00:36:23.480large language model, but we're going to see it from the other AI companies. And it's important,
00:36:29.360Maria, that the U.S. stays ahead here. Imagine if China or some non-state actor were ahead of us.
00:36:35.840So what we are determined to do is work with our AI companies to allow them to continue innovate.
00:36:43.580But our charge of the U.S. government is maintaining safety.
00:36:47.260And there is a very important calculus here between innovation and safety.
00:36:53.900And at the U.S. government, we're going to make sure that things stay safe.
00:36:58.140Chair Powell and I called the bank executives into town.
00:37:01.160It was a little less dramatic than it seemed at the time because they were already in D.C., so we got them in in person rather than convening a call later in the week.
00:37:12.560And the banks are working on their resiliency, and the U.S. government is working side by side with everyone.
00:37:21.600And again, very important for the U.S. to continue to dominate here, set the global standard, and maintain our lead.
00:37:28.180all right it's time to bring in our i would say next guest maybe our translator for what is ai
00:37:35.700speak because it certainly goes over my head joe allen can you explain what the latest the text of
00:37:41.240everything that's going on where we kind of stand in the war room fight against the overtaking of
00:37:47.300the uh the aio rewards well thank you very much natalie this is all stemming from what you heard
00:37:55.700their Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besant's concerns over financial infrastructure being
00:38:03.340vulnerable to AI models like Anthropics Mythos. Audience will recall in early April, Anthropics
00:38:12.780announced that its AI model, Mythos, was capable of finding and exploiting vulnerabilities in
00:38:21.480software across the board. This sparked a lot of concern, and it is culminating in an executive
00:38:27.720order that will most likely be signed tomorrow, the next day, possibly next week. But the executive
00:38:35.520order is geared towards addressing these concerns, primarily the cybersecurity concern. The text that
00:38:43.700I've seen is broken into two parts, the first dealing with cybersecurity and the second dealing
00:38:50.000with the mechanisms or the methods of testing these AI models to see if they're dangerous.
00:38:57.500So in the first section, the cybersecurity section, it's the order, assuming that this
00:39:04.740is accurate, what I've seen, the order is to secure the systems of the national security
00:39:12.360systems, Department of War, and also critical infrastructure, civilian infrastructure.
00:39:18.200So that would include hospitals, that would include banks, that would include utilities like electricity and water, and to ensure that any danger posed by any kind of hacker, but specifically a hacker that has the advantage of using an AI model, that these systems are secure.
00:39:36.780The next element of that, and I think this is really important to emphasize, is securing financial institutions, and I think that it's important to mention because it is really, I think, one of the prime motivations behind the EO and this push to have the U.S. government address the dangers of artificial intelligence.
00:40:02.120It's only when very wealthy men have their own assets threatened that they become interested in the dangers.
00:40:10.380And then the second part is really interesting to me and I think could be potentially is a step in the right direction to something really, really, really important.
00:40:18.420And that is to evaluate these models. And this is going to be across different agencies.
00:40:23.600It's going to be ultimately centered on the National Security Agency, the NSA.
00:40:28.460So I'm not particularly happy about that because we have pushed for transparency, we've pushed for accountability, and there couldn't be any organization less transparent or unaccountable than the NSA and the wider intelligence community.
00:40:44.200But at the very least, you can rest assured that somebody is on top of it.
00:40:50.540But, you know, on a very serious note, though, you do have a lot of different dangers that are posed by these systems.
00:40:58.500And so to the extent you do have people in the government alongside people within the companies, alongside independent organizations who are creating benchmarks and evaluating the models to see basically how smart are they.
00:41:11.760And another way of looking at it is how capable would any given AI model, whether it's Anthropics Mythos or the GPT 5.5 Cyber from OpenAI, how capable would that make an amateur hacker to create malicious code?
00:41:30.660How capable would it make a professional hacker to create even better malicious code and scale it up to deploy it more widely?
00:41:37.100And again, I'm not particularly pleased with this, but you do have, I guess, some incentive to put the intelligence community in charge of this because ostensibly they are here to protect us from both foreign adversaries and also domestic terrorists.
00:41:57.360So it will also incorporate the Center for AI Standards and Innovation, Casey, under NIST.
00:42:09.480I mean, you do have a great team of guys over there, very, very small, very poorly funded at the moment,
00:42:15.840but a good team of guys who are working to evaluate these models to see exactly what their capabilities are and what dangers could be posed.
00:42:25.100So, again, Natalie, I think we will see this EO again probably tomorrow or the next day, and it's a good start.
00:42:33.840Once they actually start taking seriously the governance and the oversight of other dangers, like, for instance, models that can coach children into suicide or models that can create malicious deepfakes, and then, of course, the bioweapon angle, all of these things.
00:42:52.280Once all of these things are addressed, I think we'll be at least in a better spot than we are right now, because right now it is basically the Wild West.
00:43:02.820Joe Allen, if you can hang with us through the break, I want to hear a little bit more about what's going on.
00:43:08.040And I know the audience has a really good track record for killing some of these crazy proposals.
00:43:12.040So I don't know if there's anything they can do to help put their shoulder to the wheel, as Steve would say.
00:43:16.780We will be right back after this short break. More Joe Allen after.
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