Bannon's War Room - May 21, 2026


Episode 5390： Senate Leaves Until June; Victory Against Tech Oligarchs


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Candidate Caroline Wren joins Jemele to talk about her campaign and why she s running for Texas AG Ken Paxton's presidential campaign. She also talks about why she thinks Sen. Ted Cruz should drop out of the race.

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00:00:00.000 I don't know if Ken Paxton said he's going to stop negative ads on television.
00:00:04.240 His PAC has vowed to do the same thing.
00:00:06.620 Will you do that, or how do you feel about him saying he's going to do that at this stage in the race when it's not over?
00:00:11.280 You know, judgment day is coming for Ken Paxton, maybe in more ways than one.
00:00:18.500 But the election on May the 26th is the first time he will actually have been held accountable for all of his misdeeds.
00:00:26.700 He lied to his senior staff who turned him in to the FBI because he was interfering with a federal investigation of his campaign treasurers.
00:00:37.740 When he fired them, they became whistleblowers, sued him, and got a $6.6 million judgment against the state of Texas.
00:00:45.780 That's you and me.
00:00:46.760 He's not going to have to pay that.
00:00:47.960 You are.
00:00:50.400 And then he's lied to the people of our great state.
00:00:54.740 And so the question arises, why on the world, on what possible basis would you trust Ken Paxton?
00:01:05.180 So no, we're not going to quit telling the truth about his record because I believe that accountability is critical.
00:01:13.700 And I do believe that May 26th will be judgment day for Ken Paxton in Texas.
00:01:18.600 If Ken Paxton is the nominee, would you vote for him?
00:01:22.940 I've said I will support the ticket.
00:01:26.460 And a quick follow-up question.
00:01:28.840 After the March primary, President Trump said that he would be endorsing someone in this race
00:01:33.500 and that he would ask the other candidate to drop out.
00:01:36.720 You obviously are not dropping out.
00:01:38.220 You're fighting through having events all over the state of Texas.
00:01:42.780 Your message for President Trump, what about you staying in this race?
00:01:45.940 Well, I think it's significant that the president hasn't made that request.
00:01:50.660 He's called me a friend, and that's no surprise because I've supported him and his policies.
00:01:58.080 You may have seen a commercial or two to that effect, 99.3% of the time.
00:02:04.840 Actually, it's funny, a quick story.
00:02:06.660 I was in Dallas and visiting at First Baptist Church there,
00:02:11.640 and one of the associate pastors came in with his two young boys,
00:02:15.380 And he said, we told him on the way to church, we were going to, they were going to meet Senator John Cornyn.
00:02:21.960 And they piped up, he's voted 99.3% of the time with President Trump.
00:02:28.520 And I said, well, that's great.
00:02:30.120 The message is getting through, but it's the wrong demographic. 0.96
00:02:34.480 But no, this is going to be, we're running through the tape and we're here to ask for every vote that we can get.
00:02:44.360 and I think that will be justice for Ken Paxton.
00:02:48.940 But if Ken Paxton, with the incredible baggage that he brings into this election,
00:02:54.700 were to somehow end up being the nominee, he could well lose that race to James Tallarico.
00:03:03.620 We haven't elected a Democrat statewide in Texas since 1994.
00:03:10.160 for. You know what that would mean? Not only for our state, but President Trump's agenda.
00:03:16.500 Because the money that would have to be spent here in Texas to salvage a flawed candidate like
00:03:24.280 Ken Paxton has to come from somewhere. And where it would likely come from is other key Senate
00:03:30.060 races around the country, like Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, New Hampshire. It would
00:03:36.300 be hundreds of millions of dollars. And there's still a good chance that he would lose. But even
00:03:43.040 if he somehow, by some strange occurrence, happened to become the nominee, he will not be
00:03:52.320 winning by the kinds of margins that would be necessary to help down ballot. And so just to
00:03:58.100 be specific about that, that means the five new congressional seats that President Trump
00:04:03.080 one in Texas to draw which we did draw those will all be right below the Senate
00:04:08.240 race on the ballot and then you get to the state races and then you get to all
00:04:13.340 the other statewide races Ken Paxton would be an albatross around the neck
00:04:19.640 of the Republican ticket in November if I didn't believe that I wouldn't
00:04:26.660 literally be running today but I'm proud of what we've accomplished in our state
00:04:32.120 I know it's worth fighting for, and that's why we're fighting, to win this election.
00:04:42.440 Thursday, 21 May, year of our Lord, 2026.
00:04:45.020 Joe Allen is riding shotguns since he blew up the executive order.
00:04:51.320 Just kidding.
00:04:52.180 We're going to get to all that.
00:04:53.800 Cochran is also going to join us with the analysis he did, the polling he did.
00:04:57.700 We're going to get to that.
00:04:58.440 We're going to get to Arlington.
00:05:00.300 We're going to get a full report from McCabe, all of it.
00:05:03.300 But I've got to go to Caroline Wren.
00:05:05.320 Caroline, thank you for joining us from the airport.
00:05:09.040 First of all, I've got to deal with Cornyn.
00:05:11.700 The president comes out and endorses Paxton in a 750-word magnificent that goes back to the beginning of all the work that we've done together and how Ken Paxton has stood for him.
00:05:23.280 And yet Cornyn comes out here and says, judgment day is coming.
00:05:26.720 Your thoughts, ma'am? 1.00
00:05:29.420 Idiot, this is all so stupid. By the way, Paxton was already up 11 points per every single poll. There was a poll with him up 10, another one with him up 11. So even if Trump hadn't endorsed, he was absolutely going to squash John Cornyn. 1.00
00:05:40.980 And so now these senators are revolting against Trump and his agenda because he endorsed Ken Paxton when it wouldn't even, like, Cornyn was dead, done. He died the moment that he betrayed the voters of Texas consistently for not only the last, I would say, eight years, but the last 24 years that he has been in office.
00:05:57.840 And so they are now throwing a pity party and obstructing Donald Trump and his agenda over John Cornyn's already dead campaign.
00:06:06.320 So I hadn't broken the news yet for the Warren Posse audience the afternoon, and we're not making this up.
00:06:13.340 The Senate, John Thune, because of this, because of the hate and discontent about the Cornyn situation, John Thune has told the House, the Senate, he's released them.
00:06:23.640 They're not coming back until June.
00:06:24.920 And so all these desperate measures we need to have done, including the funding, the permanent funding of DHS and ICE and Border Patrol, they're all gone.
00:06:34.540 You can't make this up.
00:06:36.160 He sent the Senate home.
00:06:37.520 We're talking about that.
00:06:38.220 You know, Todd Blanche is up briefing him.
00:06:40.000 Other people are briefing him.
00:06:41.120 And because, and this is why it is, Cassidy and Cornyn is the reason these guys are up in arms against the president of the United States.
00:06:47.800 A president, I might add, Caroline Wren, that if he was not on the head of the ticket, two-thirds of these guys would not be in the Senate today, ma'am.
00:06:58.000 I am so disgusted by these Republican senators right now.
00:07:02.220 These senators are melting down.
00:07:04.100 They're claiming it's because the Trump administration announced a DOJ weaponization fund to take care of people who are wrongfully targeted by our own government.
00:07:12.720 Remember, these are the same senators that just a few months ago approved a provision for senators to collect a $500,000 taxpayer-funded payout because their phones were seized.
00:07:23.480 But God forbid a grandmother praying outside an abortion clinic gets a small payout from this new fund.
00:07:28.740 All of a sudden they oppose it and want to shut down the entire government over it. 0.98
00:07:32.280 These people are sick. 1.00
00:07:33.800 They're horrible. 1.00
00:07:35.240 I am just so angry right now at the Senate.
00:07:38.100 And so is Donald Trump, frankly.
00:07:40.060 And everyone should be.
00:07:41.060 Like these Republicans, I mean, with Biden, Biden was comatose and every Democrat senator held the line past the past his agenda and told us, oh, no, he's totally fine.
00:07:51.320 But like, God forbid someone outside of those dinosaur senators could get a possible payout and they all melt down. 0.97
00:07:59.740 It is so hypocritical. 0.96
00:08:02.100 I want to go to this. 0.87
00:08:03.600 Given everything, we have the permanent funding of ICE and Border Patrol and DHS.
00:08:10.300 We have FISA that still hasn't been fought through.
00:08:13.280 We have the Save America Act.
00:08:15.140 You have all these massive pieces of legislation.
00:08:17.260 Plus, you've got the NDAA.
00:08:18.920 They have three or four must-pass, and you know they're all going to blow out of here in August.
00:08:23.860 This has to be done now.
00:08:25.600 These are urgent matters.
00:08:27.140 And because Cassidy and Cornyn, that's what this is about.
00:08:30.560 This is Cassidy and Cornyn.
00:08:32.120 They've turned on a guy who they owe their jobs and their political lives to.
00:08:36.700 That is what we're talking about.
00:08:38.400 And this is a show of force. 0.93
00:08:39.500 I keep telling people Thune and the Senate are treating President Trump like a lame duck.
00:08:44.680 And what they've done now is they've actually left Washington, D.C., and they will not return until June.
00:08:51.320 And basically telling the president, hey, sorry, tough luck.
00:08:56.180 We've got other things to do, ma'am.
00:08:58.060 Yeah, these senators, what they're doing is just absolutely awful because, look, Trump won their states overwhelmingly, the ones opposing this.
00:09:05.740 Louisiana, Trump won 60% of the vote. Kentucky, 65% of the vote. Texas, 56% of the vote.
00:09:11.520 So when you're protesting, you're just protesting the own people that elected you to be in office and claiming that you're doing it for the good of what?
00:09:18.940 I don't even know. And Trump is not even asking you to do something insane.
00:09:22.320 He's asking you to do what the entire Democrat Senate caucus has already publicly said they plan to do, which is nuke the filibuster and get his agenda passed and get Save America Act passed.
00:09:32.740 And so, frankly, my idea now is, you know what we should do? 0.84
00:09:34.900 We should attach the Save America Act to the CODEL funding because those senators, that is all they care about is being able to go on these stupid CODELs and fly around and give out slush fund money of their own, 0.96
00:09:44.100 which a.k.a. is the money that Elon and others tried to shut down with Doge, their precious foreign aid, 0.90
00:09:49.680 attach the Save America Act to their foreign aid and their CODEL funding,
00:09:52.560 and then maybe we can actually get it through because that's the only thing that they care about.
00:09:57.180 President Trump, who's basically going to campaign up for Lawler,
00:10:00.500 we're going to go to the White House momentarily, McCabe, he's working this weekend.
00:10:05.760 He's going up to campaign with Mike Lawler to make sure that House seat is held.
00:10:10.140 He's going to sit here and work the entire rest of the weekend.
00:10:12.140 They've left
00:10:13.140 Do you agree that my plan is that
00:10:16.360 Hey, we don't have 60, we don't have 51
00:10:18.240 But we definitely got 27
00:10:19.740 Is it now time for those people in the Senate
00:10:22.860 That support President Trump
00:10:24.240 To show the posse and the MAGA base
00:10:26.960 And the grassroots base of the Trump movement
00:10:28.780 That they are with President Trump
00:10:30.540 And put in process to remove John Thune as leader?
00:10:35.320 Yes, you know, when you mentioned
00:10:37.060 That Trump is working throughout the weekend
00:10:38.800 I saw one report that a senior
00:10:41.120 congressional official said, you know, people have got to get home. They've got weddings this
00:10:45.000 weekend. Donald Trump's son is getting married this weekend. And he said he wasn't going to
00:10:48.740 attend because he had so much work to do. So I'm sorry that I don't care about your weekend plans
00:10:54.120 or your own wedding when our president of the United States is not attending his eldest son's
00:10:58.320 wedding this weekend because he's actually working for the people. So please spare me your complaining.
00:11:03.980 Do you, and even, even, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going to say it. I think
00:11:08.880 you would agree with me even lindsey graham would be better than john thune right now as leader
00:11:14.300 well i mean at least senator graham like knows how to get a deal done he gets along with president
00:11:19.960 trump and and knows how to navigate the senate i mean like at any i would say anyone at this point
00:11:25.660 i think he's insane the stuff he said about saudi arabia we're on lindsey graham all time
00:11:31.400 this is the desperate shape that we're in right now thune has essentially told trump uh i don't
00:11:37.560 care uh i'm gonna take i'm gonna send it not just i'm gonna go i'm gonna send everybody home this
00:11:42.200 is what i think of your agenda this can't go on like this this is absolutely total disrespect for
00:11:47.960 the president of the united states so something has to happen even a desperate measure like i'm
00:11:52.840 saying hey if you got to find you can find anybody rick scott you pick it i i think the president
00:11:57.820 would like to get somebody he can work with but john thune can't be the guy you can't insult the
00:12:02.040 president like you're doing like you're doing right now and expect to have some sort of working
00:12:05.880 relationship when if we don't have a working relationship and get some stuff done the senate
00:12:09.480 particularly save america we're going to lose the senate ma'am we are and even i mean thune is
00:12:15.780 bowing and just holding the line for people that are not even going to be there because they were
00:12:19.300 thrown out by their own voters i mean truly like the four holdouts here that we're talking about
00:12:24.980 that thune is saying oh we don't have the votes you're talking about lisa murkowski still there
00:12:28.220 but you're talking about tom tillis who had to retire because he was so despised and knew he
00:12:31.800 alluded to primary. We're talking about Cornyn, who's going to go down by at least 15 points on
00:12:35.940 Tuesday. We're talking about Bill Cassidy that just got thrown out by his voters. We're talking
00:12:39.520 about Mitch McConnell, who is also being leaving. So he is being held hostage by members that
00:12:43.960 their own, the people who elected them have said, we do not want you here anymore. And now those
00:12:48.580 are the people dictating the legislative agenda of the president of the United States that won
00:12:51.780 the popular vote in every one of their states. Caroline, I need your social media people to
00:12:57.160 about any update on South Carolina before we let you go catch your plane? No, I'm hearing mixed
00:13:02.200 things. It's really, it's, uh, getting tied up and all this procedural stuff that I was worried
00:13:06.120 about. They're trying to run out the clock on it, but, uh, you know, we've, we've got people
00:13:09.580 fighting there. They're in there right now. They, um, are doing a lot of amendments and different
00:13:13.300 things, but, uh, I'll know a lot more tomorrow and give an update. Caroline Wren, thank you so
00:13:18.720 much. Thank you for your efforts in this. Thank you. So, so breaking news this afternoon, John
00:13:24.300 Thune, after being briefed by Tide Blanche, and then having discussions, I think with a lot of
00:13:30.760 people at the White House, said, hey, here's what we're going to do over the weekend. We're going
00:13:35.460 to send, I'm sending all the Senate home. We're not dealing with anything else. We're not going
00:13:39.000 to deal with Save America, the NDA, FISA, funding for DHS, ICE, all of it. We're going to send them
00:13:47.260 home. A direct insult to the president of the United States. All the policies of President
00:13:53.180 Trump are not perfect. Everybody's got different perspectives. We're going to talk about EO,
00:13:58.080 the executive order on AI in a second. President Trump pulled it. The reason he pulled it is said,
00:14:02.920 hey, he thinks even the voluntary, he thinks even the, let's say we're not in sync. He thinks even
00:14:08.400 the voluntary aspect of the EO is too much. That's fine. That's the president. He's got his
00:14:15.560 policies. He's driving policy. We disagree. But you don't take your toys and go home.
00:14:21.280 You don't throw your toys out of the pram and then take your ball and go home.
00:14:25.560 We have a crisis in this country.
00:14:28.660 These have to be addressed.
00:14:31.260 And John Thune has shown no respect for the president of the United States.
00:14:35.740 None of these guys would be there with not Trump.
00:14:39.560 Like him or dislike him, none of them would be there.
00:14:42.920 And they at least owe him the common courtesy and decency to say,
00:14:48.360 okay, let's sit down here and try to figure this out.
00:14:51.060 That's what's being a leader.
00:14:53.000 John Thune is supposed to be the leader of the Senate, not a follower.
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00:16:52.960 War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:58.880 Joe Allen is with us because I guess there's no executive order today.
00:17:03.780 We're going to get into all of that.
00:17:05.800 Cochran's going to join us also, Daniel Cochran.
00:17:08.080 That guy's a ball of fire, man.
00:17:11.400 Very impressive.
00:17:12.260 Good man.
00:17:13.060 I knew eventually that one of your recommendations would be, I'm just kidding.
00:17:17.540 Daniel's a good man.
00:17:18.720 Joe, you've been working very hard on this, and we're going to get into the reason, at least what the president said, they're not doing the executive order.
00:17:24.980 Let's say it's not quite aligned with the war room policy.
00:17:29.580 That's fine.
00:17:31.060 There's time.
00:17:31.740 We're not leaving town.
00:17:34.240 It's not the end of the world.
00:17:36.380 This is what gets me about.
00:17:38.140 So let me go to McCabe.
00:17:39.320 McCabe, I was going to start at Arlington.
00:17:41.280 I'm going to get there in a second.
00:17:42.480 And thank you so much.
00:17:43.340 It was great work today, Neil, over there.
00:17:45.960 And we're kicking off our coverage of Memorial Day weekend.
00:17:51.980 We are going to be on Saturday.
00:17:54.700 We start our official specials.
00:17:57.200 We're going to have both Cleo Pascal is going to be out, as she normally is or oftentimes is, in the Pacific, in the Western Pacific.
00:18:05.400 She's going to be in, she's just been at Peleliu, and we're going to talk about the Battle of Terawa in Peleliu.
00:18:12.700 And today, and we're going to also bring in an individual, leads a group that's still bringing the remains of the Marines that fought and died in Peleliu and Terawa back home.
00:18:24.380 So we'll have that.
00:18:25.200 Also, Patrick K. O'Donnell, he's got a new book coming out in the, I think, late summer, Revolutionary Snipers.
00:18:32.500 It's the third. He's got a trilogy of these amazing books on the American Revolution.
00:18:36.760 We're going to talk about the 250th and particularly Memorial Day in the year of our 250th
00:18:42.900 and what it meant in the Revolutionary War and the combat casualties in the Revolutionary.
00:18:48.680 You don't want to miss that on Saturday.
00:18:50.900 We're going to be really stoked about that.
00:18:52.280 Patrick Kaodals will be with us.
00:18:54.140 In addition, I want to make an announcement on Monday from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
00:19:00.780 And we're going to have special coverage here in the Wyrm, our normal 10 to noon, but we're also going to go to 2 o'clock to make sure we get everything that's happening with the President of the United States in Memorial Day commemorations.
00:19:11.940 I want to thank Real America's Voice for helping us make all this happen.
00:19:15.720 And, of course, our own crack team at the Wyrm.
00:19:18.300 It's going to be a really special weekend.
00:19:20.860 Neil McCabe, I got to start with I'll get to Arlington in a second because today was a big day.
00:19:27.220 You did great coverage.
00:19:28.000 the John Thune with everything going on you know these executive orders the president's
00:19:33.060 working non-stop he's going up tomorrow to campaign with Mike Lawler in a district they
00:19:37.780 said that Trump should never show up in I think the polling showing something different um John
00:19:43.060 Thune essentially tells the president I'm tired of working with you uh and I hear that had an
00:19:49.220 explosion with when uh when uh Todd uh went over the attorney general of the United States
00:19:56.040 and they blow up on him and there's just like 25 or 30 of these senators going off on him
00:20:01.000 and it's all really predicated on the Cassidy and Cornyn move by the president of the United States.
00:20:06.800 What are you hearing over the White House, sir?
00:20:11.300 Well, yeah, of course, and it's not just Cassidy and Cornyn.
00:20:14.940 You also have John Curtis and you also have Tom Tillis,
00:20:18.440 who is reported to have claimed that that judgment fund was a pot payout for a payout pot
00:20:27.940 for punks. And so, you know, they laid into Blanche about that fund. But the reality is
00:20:35.220 this fund already exists. They're just sort of setting aside this money to sort of for processing
00:20:41.640 of these sort of weaponization cases that fund from doj paid out four billion dollars last year
00:20:48.500 it's the same fund that paid out strock and page and so the idea that this is some kind of
00:20:54.880 new innovation for trump and his supporters is absolutely wrong and it's right frankly it's
00:21:01.340 dangerous when people are making decisions based on this crazy information but also the senate
00:21:07.120 try to put it into the um when the big beautiful bill is one of the bills that got passed i think
00:21:11.900 maybe the nda remember five hundred thousand dollars for themselves because they got their
00:21:15.560 phones taken don't get me wrong phones taken are bad and having to hire lawyers is expensive but
00:21:20.360 they've already done this themselves when it's for themselves is not a problem what about the
00:21:25.680 deeper issue here obviously the weaponization is going to get worked out the ballroom is going to
00:21:29.440 get worked out but the deeper issue is the senate has treated the president like a lame duck we have
00:21:36.860 a sense of urgency here that things have to get done. We had a sense of urgency on the redistricting
00:21:41.620 and look at the fights we had and we're winning many more than we're losing. We're going to be
00:21:46.220 within a hollering distance of holding the House and maybe even picking up a seat so that he came
00:21:54.200 and the Democrats are freaked out about that. You've known that. I keep telling people the
00:21:58.400 Senate's in trouble because the grassroots, I go around the country, we talk to grassroots people
00:22:03.360 all the time. There's no enthusiasm in Georgia. There's no enthusiasm in North Carolina. There's
00:22:09.200 no enthusiasm in Maine. There's no enthusiasm in Ohio and other places that should be strongholds
00:22:15.680 and why? Because of the action of the Senate. People just don't see why it's worth it. And now
00:22:20.600 today, Thune tells the president with everything going on, including the funding of ICE and DHS
00:22:27.140 Border Patrol, that he's sending everybody home until June. They're gone for what? They're gone
00:22:33.600 for 10 days, 11 days. Nobody gets a 10 day vacation, particularly when you have urgent
00:22:38.460 work to do. I don't know how the president, it's a direct insult to the person whose shoulders
00:22:44.180 that picked him up and carried him across the line to victory. The reason he's even
00:22:49.640 ability to have be the Senate leader is because of Trump winning these states, Neal McKay.
00:22:57.140 Right. There was 70 billion dollars in that bill to finally sort of tie up all the loose ends for ICE and Border Patrol.
00:23:05.700 The president said he wanted that Homeland Security funding completed by June 1st.
00:23:12.820 They're showing up June 1st. They've got to vote at three o'clock in the afternoon for a federal judge's confirmation from Montana.
00:23:20.840 And so that's sort of that's sort of their priorities.
00:23:24.140 And I'll also say that, you know, you say it's a 10-day vacation.
00:23:29.040 Constitutionally, this should be a recess.
00:23:31.920 But they basically have created this pro forma session.
00:23:35.500 So it's a fake recess.
00:23:37.600 President Reagan got 240 recess appointments.
00:23:43.000 Trump, President Trump got zero.
00:23:46.380 And he controlled the Senate for huge chunks of his terms.
00:23:50.620 Hang on.
00:23:51.700 Hang on for first and second.
00:23:53.020 Because the reason he's gotten zero recess appointments is the Senate has not been in recess one day, one minute since President Trump's been president all the way back to 2017.
00:24:05.720 Neil McCabe, talk to me.
00:24:08.620 By the way, great job at Arlington today.
00:24:10.780 Tell people what's going on with the Old Guard, the 3rd Infantry Division, the historic 3rd Infantry Division.
00:24:16.380 What are they doing today to basically prep Arlington National Cemetery for the commemoration that we're going to have over the next couple of days?
00:24:26.300 Yeah, if people want to learn more about the old guard, the 3rd Infantry Division, excuse me, 3rd Infantry Regiment, they should check out that Francis Ford Coppola film, Gardens of Stone.
00:24:36.080 These are the young infantrymen and women who take care of the graves.
00:24:41.740 They're the ones who are at the Tomb of the Unknown.
00:24:44.900 They're the ones who ride the horses and the caissons.
00:24:48.500 They're the ones who do the bugle calls every day, all the time.
00:24:52.740 There are military funerals going on at Arlington.
00:24:55.940 They're the ones who fold the flags.
00:24:58.100 They're the ones with the absolutely crisp and amazing uniform and military bearing.
00:25:04.000 And what they do today is they plant 250,000 flags on the different tombs and gravestones at Arlington.
00:25:16.500 And it's very emotional for these soldiers.
00:25:19.140 And you'll see pictures of them saluting.
00:25:21.800 You'll see pictures of them just sort of, you know, with each other and sort of, you know, carrying all these flags.
00:25:28.520 And it's so emotional for these soldiers.
00:25:31.740 And it's a real tribute to this country to get ready for Memorial Day.
00:25:37.980 And people should know they're not just they're not there for show.
00:25:41.380 The 3rd Infantry Regiment, the old guard, is these are these are some of the hardest veterans we've got.
00:25:48.000 I mean, these guys have looked death in the face and, you know, highly decorated.
00:25:51.860 You got to be very squared away to do that, don't you, Neil?
00:25:57.160 Oh, absolutely. And frankly, they deploy.
00:25:59.800 This isn't like, you know, these aren't like toy soldiers.
00:26:02.780 These are guys who are infantrymen and women who deploy overseas in combat and rotate in and out.
00:26:09.720 They're really among our finest.
00:26:12.540 I'm so glad you brought up Gardens of Stone because I don't think it gets enough.
00:26:16.540 And particularly, I think it was Jimmy Kahn was was the star of it.
00:26:20.280 But you're right. That's a that's a perfect movie, but a very good.
00:26:24.280 It tells you about the old guard. You really get the inside of what's going on.
00:26:27.760 Neil McCabe, thank you for doing the coverage at Arlington National Cemetery today.
00:26:32.340 Thank you for doing the White House coverage. Appreciate you, sir.
00:26:34.800 What's your what's your social media, Neil, so that people can keep up to date even when you're not up here in the worm on the other great shows at RAV?
00:26:45.580 You can find me on all the socials at Reporter McCabe. Thanks for having me on.
00:26:51.640 Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. OK, weekend reading.
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00:30:12.260 to 989898 and do it today. Yeah, we had been all set up for this signing ceremony for the executive
00:30:20.020 order was expected this afternoon. Some of all the biggest AI companies and their executives had
00:30:24.800 been invited to come to the White House to be part of this ceremony. And we know, according to my
00:30:28.980 sources, that a lot of the major AI companies had been talking to the White House extensively about
00:30:33.560 the details of this executive order. And then just a few hours ago, we got word that it was
00:30:38.020 postponed. And now we're hearing from President Trump himself. He's saying he was the one
00:30:41.840 that decided to postpone this, saying that he was worried that it would hamper
00:30:45.360 the AI industry. Take a listen. I didn't like certain aspects of it. I postponed it. I think
00:30:53.040 it gets in the way of, you know, we're leading China. We're leading everybody. And I don't want
00:30:57.860 to do anything that's going to get in the way of that lead. We have a very substantial on AI.
00:31:03.140 It's causing tremendous good, and it's also bringing in a lot of jobs, tremendous numbers of jobs.
00:31:10.820 Again, we have more people working right now than we've ever had.
00:31:14.020 I really thought that could have been a blocker, and I want to make sure that it's not.
00:31:20.040 So I had been spending the last couple of days talking to my sources across the industry on what was in this executive order.
00:31:26.080 And one of the biggest aspects in this executive order was that there would be a voluntary framework
00:31:30.360 where these AI companies would submit their models for government review up to 90 days before they are publicly released.
00:31:37.440 There was also calls to get more federal technology workers.
00:31:40.780 And we know, again, that these AI companies were heavily involved in working on this executive order with them.
00:31:46.880 You know, the reason that the government wants to have potentially access to these models before they're released
00:31:51.840 is, as we're seeing with some of these new models in the last few weeks and months,
00:31:54.940 is that their cyber capabilities in particular, their ability to find cybersecurity vulnerabilities,
00:32:00.680 especially in really critical infrastructure, you know, like the power systems, like the banks, they are unprecedented.
00:32:06.220 It's like having a team of millions of hackers being able to work 24-7 to find these vulnerabilities.
00:32:12.800 So you can see why the government would want to have a hand in reviewing these models before their release,
00:32:16.860 being able to shore up their own defenses, help important industries like banking shore up their defenses as well.
00:32:21.960 Now, I do know, according to my sources, there was a bit of push and pull between the industry and the White House, especially on the time period.
00:32:28.240 How long do you give the government to look at these models before the release?
00:32:31.720 I have to tell you, 90 days is a lifetime when it comes to the AI industry.
00:32:35.900 These models are developing so quickly that within 90 days, you might have two or three new versions of these models coming out.
00:32:41.980 I know that the industry was pushing more for a 14-day review period.
00:32:45.580 So there was some push and pull both from the industry and from the White House.
00:32:48.760 But now we're hearing from President Trump himself that he had issues with this executive order.
00:32:53.460 And it goes to show that there's still a pretty big split between the government of how much of a hand is the government going to have in potentially not even this wasn't even regulating.
00:33:02.280 This was a voluntary framework that the that the A.I. companies were going to voluntarily give their models.
00:33:07.580 But I think from President Trump, he's saying there was such a fear that any sort of framework from the government was going to hamper the A.I. industry.
00:33:14.580 And there is an arms race with China right now when it comes to A.I. model development.
00:33:18.260 And that's why President Trump said he wanted to stop this executive order, at least for now.
00:33:23.940 President Trump, in the trip to China, can anybody have been more magnanimous?
00:33:31.520 Can anybody have been classier?
00:33:33.180 Can anybody have just kind of reached out and said, hey, look, we want to reason together and we're here to be a partner?
00:33:39.300 President Trump did all that.
00:33:40.500 And what did the Chinese do?
00:33:42.140 What did the Chinese do? 1.00
00:33:44.260 Suck on this, President Trump. 1.00
00:33:45.640 This is what they said. 0.99
00:33:46.360 But today, you know, you've got this big picture in the, let's pull that camera, in the Financial Times of London, my favorite paper, Law of the Jungle, China's Xi warns against unilateralism days after Trump's visit.
00:33:58.780 They said Trump is the problem.
00:34:00.580 He's there with his bestie, Putin.
00:34:03.160 The two guys are going to live forever.
00:34:04.520 You heard him on the hot mic.
00:34:07.340 There is a way to make sure that we're not in arms race.
00:34:09.680 This is a fallacy set up by the tech bros, and they hammer it and hammer it and hammer it.
00:34:13.960 They're in business with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:34:15.840 Cut off the chips 0.98
00:34:17.020 Cut off the kids here studying 1.00
00:34:18.680 Cut off the Chinese nationals 1.00
00:34:20.600 In the labs and in the companies 1.00
00:34:22.180 Cut off the equity
00:34:23.260 Cut off the debt
00:34:24.100 Don't let Schwarzman go there
00:34:25.300 Don't let Fink go there
00:34:26.360 How about this
00:34:27.200 They get no access to markets
00:34:28.620 They get no technology
00:34:30.060 They get no training
00:34:31.240 They get no education
00:34:32.340 They get nothing
00:34:33.460 Like in the Godfather
00:34:35.440 How about this
00:34:36.280 You pay for the license to the casino
00:34:39.440 Senator
00:34:40.340 No
00:34:41.620 We want to stop that
00:34:43.180 We've got to play hardball 1.00
00:34:44.220 With the Chinese Communist Party
00:34:45.220 And President Trump, right here, after you were so good, so classy, reached out to them, couldn't have said better things about she, a good man, everything like that.
00:34:55.760 Look at that.
00:34:56.720 Law of the jungle.
00:34:59.040 That's what he's referring to, law of the jungle. 1.00
00:35:01.680 She, a murderous dictator running a dictatorship as election to the president of the United States.
00:35:08.740 This is like Thune. 0.93
00:35:10.740 She's the same way.
00:35:11.640 the law of unintended consequences
00:35:15.240 no good
00:35:17.160 deed goes unpunished
00:35:19.460 and that's where he is here
00:35:20.900 law of the jungle
00:35:21.700 want to stop AI 1.00
00:35:24.100 don't listen to tech broligarchs because they're the worst 1.00
00:35:27.020 humans on earth next to Xi 0.99
00:35:29.060 and the Chinese Communist Party that's why they're in business
00:35:30.920 with them they all get along
00:35:32.040 Joe Allen
00:35:34.600 you have introduced this show I got to tell you
00:35:36.760 I want to thank you the bet we made five years
00:35:39.020 ago paid off you've really become
00:35:40.960 a star in your own humble way you don't try to be a star just your hard work but the the orbit of
00:35:46.280 people you've brought of course and of course many people that let's say this are not exactly into
00:35:52.060 MAGA do not support many of the policies that we we do but they understand that this is a fight
00:35:57.980 of such importance that we have to come together uh Daniel Cochran you had on today and Daniel
00:36:04.600 joins us right now because of that polling I think it's a big deal and look the president's
00:36:08.700 sitting there. The president is an accelerationist. It can't be anything. And that's not the end of
00:36:13.780 the world. The president is the accelerationist. We have different ideas, right, about how we
00:36:18.740 handle. We don't want to lose innovation and we don't want to lose the lead. But this is a very
00:36:24.860 dangerous technology, as the president says. And he says it over again, as dangerous as nuclear.
00:36:30.740 He still puts nuclear at the top. But because this could be a triggering mechanism, it's very
00:36:35.480 dangerous what exactly happened today in your mind you've been working this non-stop and right
00:36:40.660 we were hammering this on the show and literally right before we got off and went live to the
00:36:45.800 president in the oval for the epa and lee zeldin they just said hey look upon further review no
00:36:53.140 executive order today i mean steve there's no other way to interpret it to my mind other than
00:36:58.820 the pressure that he's getting from all of these tech accelerationists and anyone else who stands
00:37:05.540 to profit from or benefit from the technology like wall street with these stocks on fire you know and
00:37:10.760 it's it's you've got a dichotomy there right because you've got people like scott bessett
00:37:14.840 and you have all these different banks who are very very concerned and they would like to see
00:37:18.700 something done but you have a lot of other elements and just from his own statements that
00:37:23.760 his concern, the president says that by blocking these industries, we might lose our lead against
00:37:31.080 China. So that whoever got to him is pushing this. I want people to understand, as we said
00:37:35.620 today, that we put the letter out and helped with Amy Kramer and the Humans First guys on the letter
00:37:40.900 and put our name on it, that we believe this had to be mandatory, not voluntary. And it had to have
00:37:47.880 some sort of regulatory apparatus that approved it in the 90 days. We didn't think it was long
00:37:52.640 up a fine but it had nsa and the intel and the cyber guys i just want to be one the president's
00:37:57.280 saying no uh war room you're wrong that's too much yeah i i believe that i'm i'm siding with
00:38:03.740 the tech bros i think that anything that could intrude upon their creativity including it's not
00:38:10.160 90 it'll be 12 right it will be not even voluntary they won't even say voluntary they'll just keep
00:38:16.620 that as something open he's he's pretty adamant as we stand now because there's a concern about
00:38:22.480 china is that anything that does anything to the tech bros is not acceptable well what you have
00:38:30.140 is a situation where the president is between these moneyed interests and these guys who are
00:38:35.080 in command that would be the rock and these guys who are in command of what they believe to be the
00:38:40.880 most powerful technology ever created on the other side you have the american people and you see
00:38:46.020 that's the hard place it really yeah you had you see it reflected in the polling that daniel
00:38:50.720 Cochran brought to us from the Institute for Family Studies. You see it reflected across the
00:38:55.860 board in polling. You see it in Wall Street Journal. You see it in Gallup. You see it in Pew
00:39:00.940 over and over and over again. When the American people are asked, how do you feel about artificial
00:39:04.800 intelligence? Either a large majority or the vast majority, depending on the topic, say,
00:39:10.780 I am uncomfortable. I don't believe that this will lead to an ultimate benefit. And many of them are
00:39:16.040 just absolutely terrified so if this is a democracy or anything like it then clearly the
00:39:23.540 will of the people need to win out and this is where the president has to make a decision this 0.91
00:39:27.180 is going to be a process and it's between a rock and a hard place cochran come in here man you're
00:39:31.420 you're polling and i want you to take a second and go through the depth of it how big it was
00:39:35.720 the different questions you asked because this had this played a this had a that you were a
00:39:41.320 difference maker today, sir. Well, thank you, Steve. And great to be with you as well, Joe.
00:39:47.620 Our polling, as you suggested, found overwhelming support for AI safeguards. 82 percent of Americans
00:39:55.800 support mandatory safeguards. And then breaking that down, it's something like 79 percent of
00:40:02.780 Harris voters and 90 percent of Trump voters support those safeguards. And specifically when
00:40:09.160 we talk about safeguards we mean mandatory safety testing of frontier ai models prior to release
00:40:15.460 now our poll um they it asked it asked voters about a variety of different risks that they
00:40:22.120 but hang on but hang on hang on hang on hang on i want to be very clear i want to go back to that
00:40:27.100 because you asked a lot of times they try to hedge these questions in these polls i want you to read
00:40:32.760 the question again you asked a very direct question and you got 90 of trump voters came back
00:40:38.640 and said, yeah, we agree. Just read the question and tell me what the results were.
00:40:43.940 The question specifically that we asked voters was, do you support mandatory safety testing
00:40:52.340 for frontier AI models? And we got overwhelming, 82% of all Americans said yes. And we were asked
00:41:02.800 in the context of, would you support the White House using its executive authority to require
00:41:08.140 this? They said yes. So this wasn't about a voluntary framework. This was really about
00:41:13.160 Americans saying, no, we want AI tested like we test pharmaceuticals, like we test drugs,
00:41:19.540 like we test all kinds of other things, automobiles, before we put them on the road.
00:41:24.000 Americans are saying we want safeguards in place before this stuff is put out to the public.
00:41:30.260 Cochran, hang on one second. When the media first got, that was one of the leaders on the letter.
00:41:35.860 Their very first thing is that, ah, this is Bannon trying to give Trump more power because people are saying they want the White House involved and they want it to be mandatory, not voluntary.
00:41:47.160 It's not that we're sitting there going, oh, President Trump should have more power.
00:41:49.940 We just think the natural there is got to be some sort of regulatory.
00:41:53.120 It can't be voluntary.
00:41:54.340 It has to be mandatory.
00:41:55.500 I don't think it'd be fit to need time to review it.
00:41:58.140 It should be a couple of months so they can review it.
00:42:00.780 NSA and the intelligence communities have to be involved.
00:42:03.380 And it just can't be foggy at the end.
00:42:06.660 It has to be some sort of process that gets you to, yes, to go use the model and we're comfortable with the safety.
00:42:13.920 We recommend that President Trump and the team at the White House and the rigs or apparatus be at the center of this.
00:42:20.520 That is actually empowering the president of the United States to take a decisive role here.
00:42:24.980 Well, there's really only one way to determine whether or not the president is making a mistake right now.
00:42:30.480 And that is the future of this technology. Where does it go? What are we going to see in the next few months?
00:42:35.720 Because as I say, yes, you have mythos, you know, kind of as a proof of concept of hacking.
00:42:41.620 But we know cybersecurity companies are reporting that there are tons and tons of attacks that they believe are traced back to AI.
00:42:49.560 And then you move beyond that. You look at the wider subject matter that their polling showed when you look at child safety,
00:42:56.000 when you look at deepfakes, when you look at the potential for just bots flooding the internet with
00:43:01.380 slop, all of these things are happening right now. So to the extent that the president listens to
00:43:07.680 those advisors who are, I think, speaking from their own self-interest, we want more power,
00:43:14.760 we want more money. If he listens to them and we continue to see this disaster unfold, then that's
00:43:21.700 He has a very legitimate concern about China, as I have a legitimate concern.
00:43:26.460 You do.
00:43:26.960 The Warren Posse, the people that watch his show, we're very, very anti-CCP.
00:43:30.860 We have a big concern.
00:43:33.380 I think that he puts, as the tech bros do, the tech bros want to have it both ways.
00:43:37.880 I don't think they're straightforward with the president.
00:43:41.240 They want to be in business with China, get access to that market, be in business with them, sell them chips, everything else.
00:43:47.320 at the same time use China as a thing to be completely accelerationist.
00:43:53.140 Right now, with no executive order, they're winning.
00:43:57.360 We're in dangerous territory now.
00:43:58.620 And I'm sure the tech bros came to the staff and said,
00:44:02.060 we'd rather have nothing than what you've got.
00:44:04.160 Just delay it and maybe let it go away.
00:44:06.860 Because in having nothing, we're still in full acceleration.
00:44:10.960 Anyway, short break.
00:44:12.020 Cochran and Joe Allen.
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00:45:53.300 Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:55.940 Cochran, give me
00:45:56.700 the audience just, I want to go back to your
00:45:58.680 polling and just talk about the
00:46:00.780 you
00:46:02.460 just talked about the safeguards of AI, but
00:46:04.680 as we've been, this AI, this
00:46:06.620 part of it in the cyber is just something that came
00:46:08.620 up since Mythos, Joe.
00:46:10.820 Before, it was all the safety concerns,
00:46:12.580 the four C's. Talk about some of the rest of your polling, the results of what the American people
00:46:16.440 told you, sir. Well, it's important to ask. So we said, look, how many of you support safety
00:46:24.060 testing on national security related concerns? That was 88 percent of all Americans. We said,
00:46:29.860 what about should should should safety testing include risk to kids and families? And that was
00:46:36.180 87 percent. And that's of the Americans who thought that of the 82 percent of Americans who thought
00:46:44.340 that AI should be pre-tested before its release. So overwhelmingly, we found that both Trump and
00:46:51.940 Harris voters not only support mandatory AI safety testing, but they support AI safety testing that
00:46:58.180 addresses some of the larger social and economic risks. And those risks included, we looked at
00:47:03.160 eight different issues, in addition to national security, cybersecurity, and financial issues.
00:47:08.780 And that was included, and I think Joe mentioned them, mental health, kids' safety, privacy,
00:47:15.020 human decision-making, just to name a few. And all of those polled well above 80%. The lowest
00:47:21.080 polling was, I think, 87%. So we're in the high 80s, mid to low 90s across the board.
00:47:28.960 87 percent of the war posse that thinks i should be the permanent host they said natalie better
00:47:35.600 where's joe allen where's brad here's where brad is brad is now going to be the ambassador to
00:47:41.480 australia so um no my point is 87 is a monumental number right american people don't agree in 87
00:47:49.080 i mean these numbers are so off the chart and you can tell by going around the country caroline
00:47:54.260 Ren for the CPAC 0.99
00:47:56.220 thing of women in government and power 1.00
00:47:58.020 all over the country. She went to a dinner last night with 1.00
00:48:00.180 30 of them. The entire conversation
00:48:02.640 for three hours
00:48:04.440 about AI. They're coming
00:48:06.220 from, and they said, data centers,
00:48:08.780 artificial intelligence in schools,
00:48:10.960 jobs for
00:48:11.440 college graduates, parents are freaked out.
00:48:14.680 This is
00:48:15.700 the number one issue we have in the country
00:48:18.260 right now, and that's why it's got to be addressed.
00:48:20.140 That's why this polling is so much better.
00:48:22.580 Now, here's the dilemma.
00:48:24.260 I'm sure that the guys around the tech pros called Kratzios and these guys said,
00:48:29.320 instead of signing this, just have it go away, right?
00:48:32.560 Let's not sign it today and maybe we'll forget about it.
00:48:34.700 Because in the current situation we're in, it's not just, there is no system.
00:48:41.020 They don't have to show anything. 0.96
00:48:41.760 What happens is that somebody like Anthropic that put up monster numbers last night on Wall Street 0.93
00:48:46.780 kind of came because they were kind of concerned about what they had, right?
00:48:50.860 But that's, it's not just voluntarily.
00:48:53.380 It's Elon and Zuckerberg and Google.
00:48:56.720 And like you said, if you don't think Google is going to AI, just go do a search.
00:49:01.720 And their point is if we don't do this, search is going to be gone.
00:49:04.540 Give me a minute on Google because you bring up the fact all the time they're cutting the human out of it.
00:49:09.040 Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:09.640 You know, right now, if you go to Google, ask a question.
00:49:12.980 It's very, very clear.
00:49:14.120 It begins with the AI overview.
00:49:15.780 It then goes down to the sponsored content.
00:49:17.540 and they're beginning to actually use AI generation to kind of filter out the human content.
00:49:26.160 There was a moment of experimentation.
00:49:28.500 I think maybe they pulled back on, I don't know,
00:49:30.000 but they were trying to actually alter headlines.
00:49:32.320 The AI would interpret the headline for the person searching it
00:49:35.600 so that the person who created the content isn't even represented at the front page.
00:49:39.660 Now, there was already a problem with Google Brain to begin with, right?
00:49:42.860 I think people should have been asking each other and reading books anyway.
00:49:46.620 But the fact that they're using these machines, they're putting machines between human beings every possible place they can.
00:49:54.400 And, yes, some people like it, but the vast majority of people don't.
00:49:58.100 I would love to take credit for it.
00:49:59.360 You know, you hear all the time, oh, it's the fear mongers at the War Room or it's the fear mongers at the Future of Life Institute.
00:50:04.800 It's the fear mongers over at the Institute for Family Studies.
00:50:09.020 Man, I wish we could take credit for this.
00:50:11.180 People on an innate level, a spiritual level, they don't want it.
00:50:16.200 lived experience they see what's happening people are not dumb we happen to be on this reason i
00:50:22.220 hired this guy five years ago i said this day is coming and it's still the singular has even got
00:50:26.800 more to it than that the quantum computing all of it but this day is coming the biggest change in
00:50:32.120 our species and working class people and middle class people parents they're smart enough they 0.99
00:50:36.700 said hey we don't know all the details but this thing is out of control and we don't like the
00:50:41.920 guys that are pushing it we don't like it they had this trial and they say it's a technicality
00:50:46.900 they had a trial for weeks with uh with elon musk testifying for three days it took the jury two
00:50:52.160 hours we haven't gotten beyond a two hours zuckerberg was two hours elon musk was two hours
00:50:57.600 the one in los angeles was two hours is the shortest time they can do to fill out a jury box
00:51:02.060 we don't like these guys and we don't agree with them the american people and cochran's thing when
00:51:06.640 you're at 80 85 come on man we don't even on the war and posse talking about different
00:51:11.840 policies, mass deportations. There's always aspects of it, right? Just have things that are
00:51:17.940 87% like, hey, yeah, maybe we should just be doing some basic safety checks here on this
00:51:24.160 is phenomenal. And that's why it's going to be such a massive political issue in this midterm
00:51:29.340 and in 2028. Daniel, we got to bounce. Your work you're doing is magnificent. You had a big role
00:51:36.780 in this. And I would love to make sure, I know it's over at the White House, they reviewed it,
00:51:40.860 We'd love to get you over to talk to somebody.
00:51:42.920 Where do people go on your social media, sir, particularly over this Memorial Day weekend
00:51:46.560 where they would have time to dive down into what you're doing?
00:51:50.300 Well, you can find me on X at Real D. Cochran, and you can also find my work at the Institute
00:51:56.600 for Family Studies dot org.
00:51:59.200 Again, that's the Institute for Family Studies.
00:52:01.580 Thank you so much, Stephen.
00:52:03.000 Thank you so much, Joe.
00:52:03.940 It's really a pleasure to be here.
00:52:06.400 Thank you.
00:52:06.980 Great work.
00:52:07.700 Joe, where they get you, particularly over the weekend, they get caught up.
00:52:10.480 You've got some magnificent stuff up.
00:52:12.680 At J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z and JoeBot.X-Y-Z.
00:52:17.040 When are we putting out the paperback edition of Dark Aeon?
00:52:19.800 You know, time will tell.
00:52:21.400 Time will tell.
00:52:22.000 Soon, I hope.
00:52:22.780 We're working on it.
00:52:23.380 You're going to update a little bit?
00:52:25.140 There's a few things.
00:52:26.320 I know you've got another magnum opus you're working on, but we'll get on you.
00:52:29.220 I think you owe us a book, but we'll talk about that later.
00:52:32.380 Joe, I'm telling you, you're working so hard.
00:52:34.760 You're doing a great job.
00:52:35.720 Very, very proud of everything you've done and accomplished.
00:52:38.700 Pretty extraordinary.
00:52:40.480 We're pretty, this, dive down over the weekend.
00:52:44.800 I'm going to send out this Wall Street Journal piece where it blames populism.
00:52:48.620 I know you find that shocking that the Murdoch paper blames populism.
00:52:52.300 You read this, you won't be blaming populism.
00:52:54.600 You actually talk about the politics of the 19th century.
00:52:57.980 We really had, you know, General Jackson and some other fire-breathing populists.
00:53:02.940 You know what they were against?
00:53:05.260 I don't know, fiat currency and central banks.
00:53:08.920 Does that strike you as odd?
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