Bannon's War Room - Episode 5398： Saving Texas Saves Our Nation; AI： The New Tower Of Babel

00:00:00.000 Today, again, in Texas, and there is one race that has the attention of everyone, including

00:00:04.660 President Trump, the primary runoff battle between longtime Republican Senator John Cornyn

00:00:09.540 and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.

00:00:12.280 The race was already highly competitive, but President Trump's endorsement of Paxton last

00:00:17.260 week has effectively launched him to frontrunner status.

00:00:21.020 This is all part of the larger effort by President Trump to purge his own party of incumbents

00:00:24.860 he sees as not quite loyal enough.

00:00:27.680 even though Senator Cornyn touts voting with the president 99% of the time.

00:00:32.520 What's at stake in what's going to be happening tonight in Texas

00:00:36.100 and all the dynamics playing out, including Donald Trump's endorsement of not John Cornyn?

00:00:42.460 Yes, and it does, I don't know, it looks like Ken Paxton's going to win.

00:00:47.040 And when you see the Texas is Texas, it's very difficult.

00:00:51.900 I think a lot of Democrats might think it's Austin.

00:00:53.760 It's very difficult.

00:00:55.300 Like Tyler, the extent to which if Ken Paxton wins shows Trump's hold and in on the Republican Party.

00:01:03.700 But the fact that Tallarico continues to do well in statewide polling, of course, he's the Democratic nominee.

00:01:11.320 And I think people need to appreciate Texans have been living with Ken Paxton and his shenanigans and his legal troubles for a long time.

00:01:19.200 So it does feel like in a surprising way, even that people that Republican people who normally vote for Republicans, maybe they're independents, maybe they're Republicans are open to voting for to voting for Tallarico and like giving him giving him a real shot.

00:01:35.200 Sean, and you just, it sort of feels not like the tip, you know, we've all been here before with

00:01:40.440 Texas going blue, but a tipping point sort of across the country with Republicans getting

00:01:47.080 tired of what's going on. I still think it's it's Tuesday, 26 May in the year of our Lord,

00:01:55.400 2026. We're going to start today in the great state of Texas. We've got Attorney General Ken

00:02:01.620 paxton joins us by phone out on the hustings right now uh general paxton just walk us through

00:02:08.100 the get out the vote effort today what are you guys doing where can people go if they want to

00:02:12.040 assist as you know you have quite a large following uh in texas and nationwide and really throughout

00:02:18.100 the world here in the war room sir well the most important thing i'm doing is i'm on war room right

00:02:23.480 now trying to get the vote out so i'm trying to get this is the most important show today but i'm

00:02:28.500 I'm doing radio, a lot of radio in the morning.

00:02:31.760 Obviously, it doesn't do any good to block walk at this point.

00:02:35.080 You want to get to as many people as you can.

00:02:36.920 So, yeah, we texted yesterday to voters that we knew hadn't voted yet that we thought were high propensity Republican voters.

00:02:46.020 So we've done everything we can.

00:02:47.600 We didn't have quite the financial resources because Washington didn't send money to me.

00:02:53.920 They only sent it to John Cornyn.

00:02:55.080 talk to us about that for a second because cornyn in desperation of course the polls

00:03:01.020 came out that that you guys had talked to president trump about uh that had you up some

00:03:06.000 eight some nine some actually 11 points up prior to any uh endorsement of course you went turbo

00:03:13.080 charged after that but it seems as we've monitored this thing over the last week or so

00:03:17.760 So your opponent, Cornyn, is reaching out to Democrats.

00:03:23.640 What is he doing?

00:03:24.220 If you didn't vote in the primary, can you actually vote in this runoff?

00:03:28.620 Because it seems like his strategy is to get people that are not Republicans and certainly not MAGA to come and try to stop you.

00:03:35.580 And, of course, the Texas Democrats are smart.

00:03:38.400 They know the candidate that can beat Tallarico is Ken Paxton.

00:03:41.500 So what is going on with the opposition?

00:03:44.020 Yeah. So actually, our polling had us up somewhere between 8 and 15 before the president endorsed, and it obviously has gotten much better since then.

00:03:51.760 And there's no doubt that John Cornyn is reaching out to those who did not vote in the Republican primary or the Democratic primary, and he's trying to reach out to Democrats, encouraging them to come vote for him.

00:04:02.800 One of the reasons that he likes having open primaries, which I am opposed to, I think we should have closed primary where only Republicans who have registered as Republicans can vote in the Republican primary so that Democrats cannot influence Republican primaries.

00:04:16.600 John is reaching out to Democrats to try to get them to come vote for him because he knows that they are more sympathetic to him.

00:04:24.000 That's a trick that the establishment down in Texas has done for a long time, right?

00:04:27.960 That's why they fight the MAGA base and the grassroots base that won closed primaries.

00:04:32.100 They've used this. This is a parlor trick they've used before.

00:04:35.860 Oh, absolutely. They used it.

00:04:37.500 So they got Dade Phelan reelected in his House seat.

00:04:40.860 Of course, then he didn't make it as Speaker, but that's how they did it.

00:04:43.980 They got like thousands of Democrats to come over and he ended up winning by 300 votes.

00:04:47.900 Where the Republican Party of Texas is trying to close those primaries.

00:04:51.820 The state is defending it. I'm trying to I'm not defending.

00:04:55.720 I would not defend it.

00:04:57.000 I'm actually on the other side intervening to stop Democrats from voting in our primaries.

00:05:01.840 because I think it's wrong.

00:05:04.020 Can you actually, if you didn't vote in the primary,

00:05:06.780 are you actually available,

00:05:08.320 can you actually vote in the runoff?

00:05:10.940 Yeah, you just can't vote.

00:05:12.880 If you vote in the Democratic primary,

00:05:14.480 you cannot come vote in the Republican primary.

00:05:16.500 If you vote in the Republican primary,

00:05:18.020 of course, they don't have, I mean, the runoff.

00:05:20.180 The Democrats didn't have a runoff, obviously, for this seat.

00:05:22.980 But so no Democrat that voted in the original primary

00:05:26.440 as a Democrat for James Tallarica or Jasmine Crack

00:05:29.740 cannot come over and vote in ours now in the runoff.

00:05:32.840 However, if you have not voted before, you can come over and vote.

00:05:37.000 And that's true for Republicans as well or independents.

00:05:39.300 They can come over and vote for me now or if they didn't vote in the first round.

00:05:42.980 But what John Cornyn is trying to do, he's trying to target either very liberal, moderate

00:05:48.020 establishment Republicans that did not vote and also Democrats.

00:05:52.120 So that's his strategy.

00:05:53.060 He wants Democrats to come help save him.

00:05:57.100 Give me a second.

00:05:58.000 I know you're busy and we're going to let you go here in a minute.

00:05:59.740 But you made one of the boldest political moves I think most people have ever seen in their lives in saying to Cornyn, hey, I will step down if you will pass – if you will put your shoulder to the wheel and pass the Save America Act, which President Trump has said is paramount.

00:06:17.960 Why do you think he – why do you think he really didn't lift a finger to do that when he had the option not to be in a jam where somebody – and President Trump's – if we can get that, if Denver can get that.

00:06:28.840 But his true socials, the two that came out for you, are two of the strongest true socials I've ever seen about a candidate.

00:06:37.000 Positively, the first one, and then negatively, the second one on Cornyn.

00:06:40.440 I mean, he buried Cornyn the other day.

00:06:42.460 But the first one on you just went back, as we do all the time, because you were our first guest on the afternoon, the 20th of January, after the illegitimate Biden regime stepped in.

00:06:53.160 President Trump went back to that history.

00:06:54.880 But why did Cornyn, understanding your following by the MAGA base, understanding how you're revered in Texas, why did he not lift a finger?

00:07:04.580 What is it about the Senate and the Senate establishment that would put $150 million to destroy you personally, but he wouldn't lift a finger when that was really his only path to political salvation, sir?

00:07:18.640 Two words, brain synapses.

00:07:20.700 And what I mean by that is I've been asking people in Texas for 14 months.

00:07:25.640 John's been in office since I was in college, and I'm 63.

00:07:28.440 He's been in office for 42 years, 24 years in the Senate.

00:07:32.000 And I've asked every single person I've been in front of, whether it's one or thousands,

00:07:35.340 can you name one good accomplishment in those 42 years?

00:07:39.000 And no one has ever named it.

00:07:40.740 No one, not one.

00:07:42.060 And so for him to actually do something good, he doesn't know how.

00:07:47.220 That's all I can come up with.

00:07:48.580 I gave him the opportunity to run with this.

00:07:50.700 that I would get out of the race if he would actually just do one good thing in 42 years

00:07:54.640 because it was so important to me to get the Save America Act passed,

00:07:57.700 and I knew it was important to the president, I was willing to step out.

00:08:00.800 And yet, here he is.

00:08:01.960 He can't even do it.

00:08:03.640 Not only does he not do it, he doesn't even try.

00:08:06.200 He says he's for it.

00:08:07.300 But did you ever hear him talk about it?

00:08:08.580 He never brought it up again.

00:08:09.660 No.

00:08:09.800 He went on vacation for two weeks right after I said that

00:08:12.440 and then came back for a week and went back on vacation.

00:08:14.980 And then he never brought it up again.

00:08:16.520 So he never tried to really pass it.

00:08:18.480 He tried to say he was for it to cover himself for this primary, but in reality, John didn't want to pass this, and he didn't try.

00:08:28.440 That's because the Senate leadership, you can tell, doesn't want to do it.

00:08:32.340 General Paxton, what are the marching orders today?

00:08:34.760 Where should people go?

00:08:35.960 How can they get involved?

00:08:37.340 How do they start dragging people to the polls?

00:08:39.220 Because today is everything.

00:08:40.380 It's game day today.

00:08:41.720 Where do they go?

00:08:42.400 What do they do, sir?

00:08:44.400 It's simple.

00:08:45.180 Take yourself, take somebody with you, a family member, call a couple of friends that haven't voted and get them to the polls.

00:08:50.740 You can vote all over the place in Texas.

00:08:53.080 You have till 7 p.m.

00:08:54.580 It's going to be low voter turnout.

00:08:56.960 We have maybe 10 percent registered voters that actually voted in the last round.

00:09:00.980 It'll probably be more like five or six percent of the registered voters.

00:09:03.720 So your vote has a tremendous leveraging effect.

00:09:07.440 And if you bring people with you, I'm going to win this race.

00:09:10.460 If the grassroots will get out and vote, we're going to win this race and we're going to overcome the $140, $150 million that John Cornyn has spent from D.C.

00:09:20.400 General Paxton, social media, where do they go if they want to go to one site to find out all this information and your social media that I know you're going to be updating during the day?

00:09:28.000 Where do the Warren Posse go?

00:09:30.820 KenPaxton.com and at KenPaxtonTX for Twitter, Facebook, and other social media.

00:09:39.520 Godspeed, sir.

00:09:40.460 Thank you for kicking it off today here.

00:09:42.680 It's going to be a great day.

00:09:43.880 Get out and vote.

00:09:46.920 Scott, do I have Scott?

00:09:49.220 Okay, we're going to get Scott Pressler.

00:09:50.600 Scott Pressler is out in the field also down in Texas.

00:09:54.100 The persistence, which has done such a fantastic job on voter registration.

00:09:58.680 He's been down in Texas putting his shoulder to the wheel.

00:10:02.000 We have the one and only Raheem Ghassam.

00:10:05.220 Man, oh man, it must be a special day in the war room.

00:10:08.820 Raheem Ghassam joins us.

00:10:09.900 We've got a lot to talk about, Rahim, but first off, I want to talk about Texas.

00:10:15.440 Did you arrive yet?

00:10:16.560 My understanding is that from your entourage that you were actually heading to Texas, sir.

00:10:22.000 I am here, Steve, in Dallas, Texas, ready and raring to go for the day's events.

00:10:29.800 It's very exciting.

00:10:30.940 It's a day that we've been waiting for for a long time.

00:10:35.820 The establishment, the consultant class in Washington, D.C., told us that we would never get to this position,

00:10:41.700 that President Trump was going to endorse John Cornyn, that Texans would just have to suck it up.

00:10:47.460 We were told all over social media that this day would never come.

00:10:53.400 And today, I mean, I have a lot of friends who are from Texas, who live in Texas, and I wanted to be here with them.

00:11:00.800 They all seem genuinely excited to go out, cast their votes and make this happen.

00:11:08.060 It's one of, you know, we don't get these moments very often, these David versus Goliath moments where, you know,

00:11:13.740 they spend 100 plus million dollars against somebody with a track record, a MAGA track record, and they come out with nothing to show for it.

00:11:24.280 The long term implications of this are even better.

00:11:27.580 Ken Paxton, and by the way, I want to say his team, right?

00:11:32.800 The great people on that campaign, the great people who have stood by him and worked with

00:11:37.060 him for years and years, pushing the envelope on all kinds of issues, radical Islam, the

00:11:43.360 lawsuits, everything, they will now be in a position, if you guys go out there and do

00:11:48.600 it, they will now be in a position to help affect real change.

00:11:52.520 you know, 6,000, 7,000 times more than somebody like John Corning or John Thune or any of these

00:11:59.800 guys would be interested in. It's a very exciting day. This is, I got so much to get into with you

00:12:06.660 and after the break, we'll do that. But I want to go back to this point. You don't, this is almost

00:12:11.840 like a movie. You very rarely in politics, given how important Texas is, I say this as a Virginian,

00:12:19.860 although Sam Houston was a Virginian, that Texas is the jewel in the crown of the union.

00:12:25.660 As Texas goes, so goes the nation. And here in the Senate primary, you have the virtual,

00:12:31.600 he have the actual ether, the epitome of the rotten political class in Washington, D.C.

00:12:38.660 That's John Cornyn. And you have on the other side, a populist nationalist street fighter

00:12:43.640 and Ken Paxson, who has just been with President Trump and really fighting in the hardest fights,

00:12:48.120 taking on the fights that matter that's what's so brilliant about this um what do you expect

00:12:54.660 and of course rahim i'd like your observations and that cornyn's 150 million dollars wasn't on

00:13:02.200 any policy i mean he had one ad he was walking past the wall which we noticed he fought he had

00:13:07.600 another one as soon as we came out the sharia uh you know prop 10 on a prohibiting sharia law he

00:13:12.980 came out the next day he's mr anti-sharia law which everybody knows a joke but the vast bulk

00:13:17.680 the money, 99% went to destroy Ken Paxton personally. Your observation, sir?

00:13:24.740 Well, my first observation is that out of the two of those candidates, I only fancy that one 0.95

00:13:29.800 might own a copy of No Go Zones, How Sharia is Coming to a Neighborhood Dear You. And that person 0.96

00:13:35.060 is not John Corded, right? Like this issue has come across his desk very recently. He probably

00:13:40.960 took a little look at a paper, sneered at it a bit and said, OK, I suppose we better go and do

00:13:47.020 a photo opportunity to prove to these guys you know that we care just a little bit about this

00:13:52.020 but but they don't right they've got no track record of doing anything like that you know you

00:13:57.260 look at how we got to this position in the first place by the way Ben Jacobs had a great write-up

00:14:03.740 about this a couple of days ago I think it was in Slate very brief where he just kind of said you

00:14:09.280 know how did how did we get to this position and again it was a masterstroke it was a stroke of

00:14:13.760 Julius, by somebody around A.G. Paxton, and of course, by the attorney general himself

00:14:21.080 to say, hey, let's hinge this on the Save America Act. Because at the end of the day,

00:14:27.800 this is what it all comes down to, right? If you can't get that thing passed, if the current Senate,

00:14:32.480 if John Corden and all his buddies in there are not interested in getting this passed,

00:14:36.540 let's lay it out on the line for Texans. Let's show them what it's really about. And they did,

00:14:40.300 They ran towards the fire in that fight. 0.93

00:14:44.560 I mean, that took real cojones, real cojones. 0.95

00:14:47.540 That took the kind of spirit that you can only see from a red-blooded Texan, right? 0.98

00:14:53.460 And they did it.

00:14:54.580 And they forced the issue, look where they are today.

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00:16:28.260 OK, welcome back. Game day in Texas. Raheem has framed it perfectly and we'll get back to Raheem in one moment.

00:16:36.440 Scott Pressler joins us out in the field. Scott, just give me the stakes today for the grassroots movement.

00:16:43.620 You're the persistence. You've been all over this country signing people up. Now it's game day in Texas. Your thoughts, sir?

00:16:48.640 Thank you, Steve. Well, today is day 146 of asking our Senate leadership to pass the Save

00:16:58.400 America Act, which 84% of Americans agree with photo voter ID. And while we have tried to work

00:17:06.480 with members of Congress, while we have tried for the last five months to work with them to

00:17:13.000 passed this country-saving legislation. They are currently, Steve, on a nine-day paid vacation,

00:17:19.700 working only 11 calendar days in the month of May. It is clear and it is evident that the Senate has

00:17:27.180 no intent of codifying into law President Trump's agenda. Republicans found out swiftly in Indiana.

00:17:35.260 They found out in Louisiana with Senator Bill Cassidy incumbent losing, coming in third place.

00:17:40.720 They found out in Kentucky. And today is Texas's day to show the Senate that they work for us,

00:17:49.620 we the people. And if you have ever wanted the opportunity to hold your elected officials

00:17:56.020 accountable, I ask you, I implore you to get out and vote today. The polls are open right now,

00:18:04.060 all across Texas, the 254 counties, until 7 p.m., and I ask you to vote for Ken Paxton.

00:18:12.540 The last thing I'll say, Steve, is John Cornyn has had 24 years in office, 24 years to secure

00:18:21.720 our elections, 24 years to secure our border, and he has not been effective as his job,

00:18:28.960 and it's time for Ken Paxton.

00:18:31.860 Scott, as you've gone around the country here intentionally in the last couple of months, not simply the President Trump, but is when you meet with the grassroots, which you do daily, is this their number one priority right now to get the Save America Act passed?

00:18:48.140 yes the top three issues that we voted on to elect donald trump at the popular vote war

00:18:55.500 were the economy secure the border secure our elections no new wars those are the issues the

00:19:03.760 american people want and again 84 of americans want photo voter id even democrats want photo

00:19:12.400 voter ID. Yes, we are not a free nation without fair elections.

00:19:21.380 Scott, where do people go today on your social media, your kind of bomber command down there?

00:19:26.520 Where do people go on your social media, your website to find out more about what action they

00:19:30.420 need to take today to get as many people out to vote as possible? The turnout should be somewhere

00:19:35.600 between five and 10 percent. And it's a very difficult day coming off Memorial Day weekend.

00:19:39.560 A lot of people not around, so they're going to be looking to you for guidance.

00:19:42.820 Where do they go?

00:19:44.780 The War Room Posse is all about action, action, action.

00:19:49.180 I implore you right now, download the free Early Vote Action app to your iPhone or Android.

00:19:58.680 Early Vote Action.

00:20:01.120 I have campaigns in there for Montgomery County, Texas.

00:20:04.560 Montgomery County voted plus 27 for Paxton in the primary, but we need big, beautiful turnout today.

00:20:13.440 If every member of the War Room Posse text messages 20, just 20 voters,

00:20:22.360 you could have a major impact from all 50 states getting Texans to come out and vote.

00:20:29.080 Please, I encourage you, download the Early Vote Action app, send 20 text messages, and then ask your friends to also send 20 text messages.

00:20:42.620 That would mean a lot to us on the ground here in Texas.

00:20:46.340 I'm at a polling location right now, Steve, in Ken Paxton's home county of Collins.

00:20:52.880 And I look forward to providing more updates on my social medias throughout the day.

00:20:57.420 And thank you very much for the War Room Posse.

00:20:59.920 Thank you for having me.

00:21:02.400 Scott, one last thing.

00:21:03.660 I've had the opportunity over the weekend, your book, The Persistence.

00:21:07.840 Can we put it up on the screen if we've got it?

00:21:10.400 Where do people go to get this book?

00:21:12.080 It's a page turner about your efforts really to change the direction of this country in a grassroots level by getting people engaged.

00:21:19.580 First of all, getting signed up to actually participate and vote, but more importantly, to get them engaged in the direction of their country.

00:21:26.480 Just give me a minute on the book. Where do they get it? And why should they buy it?

00:21:31.360 Thank you very much. Well, the book, The Persistence, how Scott Pressler seized voter registration away from the Democrats, cleaned up America's cities and also worked to elect Donald J. Trump.

00:21:45.480 That book can be found on Amazon, and it's becoming a bestseller thanks, actually, to a lot of my haters.

00:21:54.720 So I want to thank Democrats for even purchasing the book.

00:21:59.720 And really, this is a story, Steve, about the power of one.

00:22:04.240 You always talk about being a force multiplier.

00:22:07.720 That's what this book is about, how a dog walker, how a guy who never thought he would be in politics.

00:22:14.520 now has the influence of even meeting with the president of the United States through gumption,

00:22:21.340 through sweat equity, through hard work, through persistence. And I believe that is how we're

00:22:26.460 going to save our country, Steve. One by one, heart by heart, vote by vote.

00:22:31.840 Grit, tenacity, and using your personal agency, sir. You're the personification,

00:22:36.380 the manifestation of it. I want everybody to get that book. Scott, we'll let you go back to work

00:22:39.940 today hopefully checking with you in the afternoon show one more time scout just give the just give

00:22:45.000 where people go to keep up with you today on on game day in texas thank you i'm on every social

00:22:52.100 media account it's at scott pressler s-c-o-t-t-p-r-e-s-1-s-l-e-r and i look forward to providing

00:23:01.000 updates throughout the day download the early vote action app send 20 text messages to montgomery

00:23:07.040 County, Texas. Thank you, Warren Posse. Thank you, Steve.

00:23:12.240 Thank you, Scott. Make sure you go to Amazon and

00:23:15.060 check out the book. Do it today. Raheem Kassam,

00:23:19.800 before we went to break, you were laying out, you were

00:23:23.560 framing this as the stakes that are involved here. Can you hit rewind and give that to us again, sir?

00:23:30.080 Yeah, sure. And, you know,

00:23:31.700 it's always extremely rewarding and gratifying

00:23:35.660 to listen to Scott because, quite frankly, he works his butt off every single day to

00:23:43.220 the level that I think, you know, a lot of people like to think they can get their hands

00:23:46.980 dirty, but doing what he does every day, talking to hundreds of people every day, especially

00:23:55.620 dealing with these people on Capitol Hill.

00:23:57.640 You and Nigel, this is how you guys built this machine that's going to take over British

00:24:03.500 politics. When I first met you, you guys know how to roll your sleeves up and get dirt under

00:24:08.400 the fingernails. That's Scott Pressler. Scott never comes in and wants the big league, wants

00:24:12.140 to have things about him. He's, you know, uses his agency person by person. There's a lot to

00:24:18.240 learn there, that this is how these movements, I mean, you guys, what Nigel and you and others

00:24:23.180 have created in England, quite frankly, to me, is awe-inspiring, particularly when you talk about

00:24:27.000 no money. What's happened with the grassroots movement is awe-inspiring, particularly in the

00:24:31.280 voter registration but this is why today in texas it's game day because the establishment

00:24:35.600 just sitting there and thinking hey we're just we'll just we can beat you guys with money

00:24:39.660 you know you think you've got the people on your side you think you have the power of populism on

00:24:45.100 your side but we just have donor money and at the end of the day we're just going to beat you with

00:24:49.260 donor money raheem ghassam you know and it is funny you mentioned that because the number of

00:24:55.640 people uh that will say that to you to your face is actually quite extraordinary you would think

00:25:01.840 that perhaps there would be an element of shame about that you know we're not in it for the good

00:25:06.560 reasons or the right reasons we're just going to beat you with money um but they're quite happy to

00:25:11.460 be those people and i'm quite happy when days like this happen now listen it's not a foregone

00:25:16.400 conclusion i have to say um you know people actually have to go out there and do it you

00:25:19.980 can't take it for granted you can't think oh you know just because he got the trump endorsement

00:25:23.820 that means he's going to get it. No, you actually have to go out and line up and cast your ballots.

00:25:29.440 That's what this whole thing is about. That's what this whole campaign has led up to. Please,

00:25:33.880 please, please, if you're feeling in any way complacent, as we say in England, give your head

00:25:39.640 a wobble and get back out there and do the right thing. Because even if it's close, I would say,

00:25:50.080 that they will think they can do this again next time.

00:25:52.900 And next time they'll just go,

00:25:53.900 oh, well, next time we just need to spend 200 million.

00:25:56.400 Of your money, by the way, donor money.

00:25:59.040 RNC donor money, Senate Republican donor money,

00:26:01.560 those emails, those text messages that you get

00:26:03.540 that you respond to.

00:26:04.640 I know a lot of people are awake to it now,

00:26:06.640 but a lot of people still give money that way.

00:26:08.600 That was your money they were spending for John Cornyn.

00:26:12.060 You know, we can go down the whole rabbit hole

00:26:14.560 of opportunity cost, where else it could be spent,

00:26:18.480 where else it could be deployed.

00:26:20.080 in the interest of the country, of the nation, of migrant conservatism.

00:26:24.820 But it was spent here, trying to smear A.G. Paxton.

00:26:28.640 So it can't be close.

00:26:30.440 And I don't think it will be close.

00:26:31.920 If people go out and do what I think they're going to do today, Steve,

00:26:34.680 you're looking at double-digit victory.

00:26:36.600 But it has to be a double-digit victory.

00:26:39.020 It cannot be a three- or four-point victory

00:26:41.260 that doesn't send the message to the political establishment

00:26:43.980 that we need to send today.

00:26:46.680 And one more time, I'm going to hold you through the break

00:26:48.760 because I've got other things to talk about.

00:26:50.300 But this is all about people's personal agency.

00:26:52.840 You have to make it happen today.

00:26:54.320 It's not a foregone conclusion.

00:26:55.700 Don't worry about the polls.

00:26:56.780 Don't think about that. 1.00

00:26:57.840 You have to get up and drag people 0.88

00:26:59.340 because it's the day after Memorial Day.

00:27:01.520 They did this to make it more obscure for people to vote.

00:27:05.660 You have to go out and do it today, Raheem.

00:27:09.820 I think it's everything.

00:27:12.300 It's everything.

00:27:12.880 We didn't do all of what we've done.

00:27:15.400 I mean, listen, when when there was a moment when Ken was on the ropes a couple of months back and, you know, the consultant class was gloating on social media and leaking to the their friends, not their acquaintances, not their colleagues, their friends at Politico and elsewhere.

00:27:36.980 and you know some of us just stood up in the breach and said we'll fight we'll fight this till

00:27:44.060 till we need to you know till it's over till the till the political death right and um i think

00:27:51.340 you've got to internalize you know a lot of people have put a lot on the line for this moment take

00:27:58.160 that as your as your baseline then add to that the great things that can happen for the state of

00:28:05.800 Texas if that man

00:28:07.600 is in the Senate chamber.

00:28:09.500 Not just blocking

00:28:11.520 things, but advancing things.

00:28:13.720 Hang on one second.

00:28:15.540 We're going to take a short commercial break. Raheem Kassam,

00:28:17.940 founder of the National Pulse,

00:28:20.580 with us next.

00:28:23.560 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:28:25.780 Bannon.

00:28:27.540 Okay, we have a theory of the case

00:28:29.740 here. The theory of the case

00:28:31.900 is that the salvation of this

00:28:33.800 country comes from 0.55

00:28:35.040 working men and women, the working class, the middle class in this country that don't understand 0.98

00:28:42.780 the values of this country and prepare to fight for it. Now, that is what Paxton's entire campaign

00:28:50.040 represents against the political class. This is the Donald Trump's rise to power out of nowhere.

00:28:57.220 This is what Scott Pressler does every day. The perfect example of this is in the United Kingdom,

00:29:03.260 in Great Britain. And I saw it firsthand. When we decided to start Breitbart London and Breitbart

00:29:11.900 Rome and Breitbart Jerusalem, first of all, everybody told me, oh, you start these international 0.98

00:29:17.500 bureaus, nobody gives a crap. We also started Breitbart, Texas, because of the invasion,

00:29:22.480 particularly in the Rio Grande Valley at the same time. I hate to say I was right and they were

00:29:27.240 wrong but i was right and a lot of this came from the senior most levels at fox the people don't

00:29:33.980 care about international news and i said well it cares about them because it's indestructibly linked

00:29:39.040 in this modern world it's indestructibly linked with what happens here and if you want to build

00:29:43.180 a populist nationalist movement that wins you have to understand that and so i hired a james

00:29:50.400 delingpole a columnist at the daily telegraph daily telegraph had kind of gone what we call i

00:29:55.080 guess wet right have become a kind of a rhino like you know like fox news or national review

00:30:00.760 something like that but also a young firebrand that ran a website rahim kasam who was touted

00:30:06.080 by everybody out when i went over to london as this guy is the mover and shaker that's uh one

00:30:11.900 of the smartest guys in the kingdom and i've been watching these uh youtube videos of this guy in

00:30:17.920 the European Parliament, Nigel Farage. And through Rahim, I got a working level view of this and

00:30:26.780 traipse around with Rahim and Nigel in the Midlands. And it was like the Tea Party movement

00:30:31.920 beginning in the United States. And Nigel would talk to rooms of 25 people or 100 people or 15

00:30:36.580 people. No matter where he could get a crowd, he would go do it and put the seeds down of why the

00:30:45.600 political culture in Great Britain was betraying the people, particularly the Tories. And now you

00:30:53.460 saw from this magnificent victory a couple of weeks ago, first of all, Brexit, as soon as we

00:30:58.380 won Brexit, and Raheem was there as one of the leaders of that, as soon as they won Brexit,

00:31:03.140 I think 29 June of 2016, I told everybody, I said, that's the forerunner to Trump. We're going to win

00:31:08.880 in November. I knew Trump was going to win anyway, but I said, this absolutely locks it for me. Look

00:31:12.840 at the people that voted for that. Same things happened here in the United States. And lo and

00:31:16.720 behold, it did. It's one of the reasons I was brought into the campaign in mid-August when

00:31:21.500 they were down was because of my understanding of how to take the Clintons apart, but also

00:31:27.780 understanding this kind of populist movement, this nationalist movement. And Raheem Ghassam was one

00:31:33.020 of the architects of that. Raheem, this gets back to today. You have to deliver on game day and

00:31:39.740 these early votes and on game day. And a perfect example is the revolution led by Nigel Farage.

00:31:45.840 First off, Nigel Farage, one of the most important people, if you study British history and British

00:31:50.120 political history, he's one of the most important people in British political history just for

00:31:55.660 Brexit. Now what he's done, and particularly in the 250th year of our revolution, you understand

00:32:01.880 about the Tory party and their handling of the foundational element of the British empire in

00:32:07.360 that time period where he's replacing a party that's been around for 250 years once again and

00:32:14.460 he will be prime minister one day a lot of it because of the work of you as one of the architects

00:32:18.860 of it how does that and for tell me tell our audience how you guys have done it here there

00:32:24.080 and how does that inform what we're trying to accomplish particularly in the great state of

00:32:29.280 texas because texas has got a lot of first off there are a lot of british capital came in to

00:32:33.620 build Texas at the very beginning of this. The British merchant banks always had a very close

00:32:38.020 relationship with Texas. We also, you know, McElvaney and yourself, we're kind of guiding

00:32:43.740 stars, Russ, with this Sharia law because we said, hey, we saw what happened in London up close and 0.78

00:32:49.620 personal. London has fallen and we don't want to have it happen here. Rahim Ghassam, the floor is 1.00

00:32:54.440 yours, sir. Well, this is entirely and thank you, by the way, for all the kind words. The

00:33:03.400 the framing is exactly correct. You know, there would have been, unfortunately, you have to go

00:33:08.960 back a long way now, but there would have been a time when you would have said, you know, don't

00:33:13.560 mess with an Englishman. An Englishman's home is this castle. You know, there were all sorts of

00:33:19.080 truisms and phrases and things that we understood about Brits and Englishmen, Scotsmen,

00:33:27.600 and Irishmen about the fortitude and the nature of conquering the world and leading the way and

00:33:37.820 spreading civilization and all of these things. And in the last several decades, at least post

00:33:44.500 Second World War, the spirit has been drained out of so many Brits. And when Nigel Farage came along

00:33:53.720 in the early 90s and said, no, you know, we actually haven't had enough.

00:33:59.300 You know, we haven't done enough.

00:34:00.740 We haven't built enough.

00:34:02.260 Our best days are not behind us.

00:34:04.860 And he started to pull the pants down of the establishment, you know, no matter who they

00:34:08.640 were, whether it was these weak, and I was talking to him about this yesterday, actually,

00:34:13.480 whether it was these weak Maastricht rebels who gave into the conservative political establishment

00:34:19.240 in the early 90s and joined further with the European Union,

00:34:23.400 whether it was Tony Blair in the European Parliament,

00:34:26.520 Gordon Brown in the European Parliament,

00:34:28.960 the European commissioners themselves,

00:34:30.980 whether it was the BBC.

00:34:34.300 And, you know, you looked at,

00:34:35.720 I was there two, three weeks ago covering,

00:34:39.100 and people should go on my YouTube channel

00:34:40.920 and I have the video uploaded in several places,

00:34:44.000 but the YouTube channel is the easiest.

00:34:46.100 You know, to see behind the scenes

00:34:47.760 of what a campaign like that

00:34:49.640 for somebody like Nigel Farage

00:34:51.040 and very much would be the same

00:34:52.280 for somebody like Ken Paxton actually looks like.

00:34:55.040 How much you have to crisscross the country

00:34:56.620 every single day?

00:34:57.780 How much is logistics?

00:34:58.740 How much, you know,

00:34:59.820 fortitude you have to have?

00:35:02.480 How many people you need to speak to?

00:35:04.120 Real people that you need to speak to.

00:35:05.680 You go out on the street unannounced

00:35:07.580 and you show up at a town centre

00:35:09.120 or a shopping centre or a pub

00:35:11.920 and you actually engage with people.

00:35:14.760 You know, I followed with my camera,

00:35:16.440 with the very camera I'm talking to you on right now, followed Faraj around for two weeks and saw,

00:35:23.300 you know, because a lot of nonsense is spewed online now. Oh, you know, they're going establishment

00:35:29.300 and reform has got too many ex-conservatives in their party. I happen to believe that converting

00:35:34.380 people to your side is a good thing. I remember the 47th president was once a Democrat and was

00:35:42.100 converted to being and running as a Republican. And listen to the way he speaks today about the

00:35:49.300 foundational issues, Save America Act, about Christianity, about beautifying this nation,

00:35:54.660 all of these things. Could have never happened on a Democrat platform, by the way. So I will

00:35:58.540 take all the converts that we can get, and I will convert them. One thing that really stood out to

00:36:04.920 me, because whatever people want to say on the internet, and there's a lot of people who talk

00:36:09.800 some absolute rubbish about what's going on in England right now. He won two weeks ago.

00:36:16.420 You know, the Reform Party, Nigel Farage's party won. 1,500 seats that were up for grabs in local

00:36:22.080 elections came top of all the parties in the entire country. And that's a reflection on what

00:36:28.940 he's put together and how he's built that movement over decades, by the way. And now you've got a

00:36:35.100 special election, Steve, and I hope to get the audience interested in this as well, because

00:36:39.860 there's a coup going on as a result of Nigel's victory. The coup is going on inside the governing

00:36:44.580 Labour Party. And they're deciding whether to toss out Keir Starmer and replace him with this new

00:36:49.300 guy, Andy Burnham, who happens to be the mayor of Manchester. There's only one problem. The mayor of

00:36:53.560 Manchester isn't in Parliament, so they have to get him a seat in Parliament. So there's a special

00:36:57.400 election on June 18th to try and get this new guy in. And if they get him in, the Labour Party

00:37:02.520 effectively gets another five years. And the country can't take that, quite frankly.

00:37:06.960 And the people right now who are trying to stop Farage's party winning that seat

00:37:12.260 and keeping the Labour Party out, this would be the end of the Labour Party if we kept this guy

00:37:17.400 out, by the way, are this small group of people called Restore Britain that is backed by Elon Musk.

00:37:25.200 And these people are polling at 7% in that constituency in the north of England.

00:37:29.500 but that 7% will be enough to return the seat for the Labour Party. Can you imagine that?

00:37:36.600 And these people are doing it out of spite. Rupert Lowe is a spite politician. He's kind

00:37:41.960 of a clown. It's not really his party. It's Elon Musk's party. And I know I get a lot of stick for 0.99

00:37:46.880 this. I get a lot of stick for it online. They're very loud online. I don't care, especially on X,

00:37:50.920 funnily enough, somebody might be boosting their posts. But the stakes are that you have a guy who

00:37:57.400 has built a movement over several decades now. And the entire political establishment is basically

00:38:03.700 resigned to losing to him. Nigel Farage has built that movement. And now you've got these people

00:38:09.060 coming along. And the way I describe them to an American audience, Steve, is kind of like

00:38:12.700 if Ron DeSantis and the Groypers had a baby. And Elon Musk, remember, was a DeSantis guy before 0.95

00:38:19.900 he was a Trump guy. Then he tried Doge, he failed at that. Then he threatened to build the America

00:38:24.320 Party, failed at that. Then he started attacking Trump over Epstein, failed at that. Now he's

00:38:29.680 turned his sights on the United Kingdom because he wants more electric vehicle mandates, more H-1B 0.85

00:38:35.420 style migration. Well, hold it. He just said with Nate Morris, he put $10 million in the back of a 0.99

00:38:40.220 candidate that we dumped as soon as he took Elon Musk's money. Remember, Charlie Kirk and I were

00:38:45.760 working with this guy and they took $10 million from Elon Musk. We said, hey, end of any

00:38:50.680 relationship you took it from the worst person on earth because elon musk is the devil incarnate

00:38:56.060 and the guy finished he was he was running so so poorly that he dropped out for some

00:39:02.580 ambassadorship which will never come but it's uh you know elon musk he tries to screw up everything

00:39:08.260 he touches because he's a megalomaniac he's worse than that but uh once again tell people what he's

00:39:13.900 trying to do in england and why is this special election so important yeah i mean you know he's

00:39:20.180 I think he sort of tucked his tail between his legs on American politics.

00:39:24.160 You know, as I just laid out there, Doge was a spectacular failure.

00:39:28.860 I mean, spectacular failure.

00:39:30.320 Not just because it failed really to do anything.

00:39:32.340 And there are all these reasons why, right?

00:39:34.280 He's going to blame, oh, well, Congress wouldn't pass with this and that.

00:39:37.300 Yeah, fine.

00:39:38.240 Surely you knew that going in.

00:39:40.120 Surely you had a plan.

00:39:40.960 You had a strategy.

00:39:41.600 No?

00:39:41.920 Okay, fine.

00:39:42.580 You didn't.

00:39:43.740 And now he's turned his attention on the United Kingdom.

00:39:46.660 And what's really interesting, that graphic that was just up on the screen,

00:39:49.200 I want that back up, actually, because I'm going to walk people through that real quick.

00:39:52.220 That graphic, what it shows is last night, the chief organiser, the chief spokesman and

00:39:58.820 campaigns director for this Restore Britain party, a guy called Charlie Downs, who actually,

00:40:05.120 I think, applied to be in the Conservative Party a year ago and got turned away, the

00:40:08.780 establishment Conservative Party.

00:40:10.360 He tweeted last night, Restore Britain is an enemy of populism.

00:40:15.260 Yes, 2010's populism, as embodied in the figure of Trump and his friends like Farage, has been utterly defeated as a radical figure.

00:40:25.860 It now belongs to the establishment and has no teeth.

00:40:28.960 Well, Charlie Downs is going to see today if Trumpism is defeated.

00:40:34.160 Here in Texas, you want to raise the question of whether or not the MAGA movement is defeated?

00:40:41.100 Watch what happens here today in Texas.

00:40:43.740 What's going on in the United Kingdom, funny enough, should motivate Texas voters to go out today to send a message to Elon Musk and his flunkies like Charlie Downs and Rupert Lowe that the MAGA movement is not and will not be defeated.

00:40:59.220 This kind of splitting is exactly what the political establishment wants.

00:41:04.540 And there's a huge question mark over whether or not Elon Musk and all of these guys are actually working with, hand in hand, with the British political establishment to stop a real change coming in the United Kingdom.

00:41:18.080 It makes me sick, but it makes me more resolved every day to do something about it.

00:41:26.920 Rahim, where do people go to follow this?

00:41:29.620 we want to have you back on particularly on this topic of uh musk trying to drive a wedge

00:41:34.600 between populism and nationalism in uh in um great britain where do people go

00:41:39.560 that's exactly what he's doing the nationalpulse.com we're going to have full spectrum coverage of it

00:41:45.200 on my youtube channel as well ironically on x also taking the fight right to him parking my

00:41:51.760 tanks on his lawn um make sure that you're following there because i'm trying i mean you

00:41:57.300 You know, I was in London, then I was in New York, then I was in D.C.,

00:42:00.620 then I was in Miami, now I'm in Dallas.

00:42:03.100 I'm trying to get back to London for this special election in the next couple of weeks,

00:42:06.720 bring you exclusive coverage from there, because it is that big.

00:42:11.580 TheNationalPulse.com. Thank you, Steve.

00:42:14.180 We'll talk to you right after the show.

00:42:16.240 Make sure you get over there.

00:42:17.920 Short break. Artificial intelligence. Next in the world.

00:42:23.500 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:42:27.300 welcome back uh rahim is going to be up all day um on in texas plus this uh new event

00:42:37.660 happening in um in the united kingdom where we get to all that i'll catch rahim afterwards um

00:42:43.680 so down in texas make sure you go to his twitter feed and national pulse they're putting up stuff

00:42:47.780 all day in his youtube channel uh john schwebby over at american principles project but you also

00:42:55.800 got uh you also you're a senior advisor to terry shilling and the team there but you're also uh

00:43:01.620 have a popular solution site john i you put up some stuff yesterday there was a lot of

00:43:07.860 the pope put out this encyclical and people know i'm not a huge fan of a prevost but on this one

00:43:14.160 i thought it was quite interesting for him to step in the middle of this he put this up but

00:43:18.320 the most interesting thing was your take on the fact and we can talk about the pope but there was

00:43:22.740 a a total meltdown by the oligarchs and particularly the oligarchs lackeys and

00:43:29.480 grundoons in silicon valley uh about this and i think that this this thing now and people should

00:43:35.620 know there's a ton of work going on on the executive order and particularly with people

00:43:40.220 like scott best in a safe pair of hands uh and it's being fought by the oligarchs and this is

00:43:45.360 going to be we're going to have to have we're having a battle here and you know one side's

00:43:48.800 going to win and one side is going to lose. John, talk to me about these tweets you put up yesterday

00:43:53.840 about the encyclical, but particularly the, what I call the hoplites, the lackeys in Silicon Valley

00:44:03.100 that responded yesterday. Yeah, well, I think, you know, I would encourage your audience to read

00:44:09.240 the encyclical. It's 40,000 words, so it's tough to get through, but it's really, really interesting.

00:44:13.920 a lot of focus on Catholic social teaching in addition to AI, and I think it kind of sets the

00:44:18.840 stage for where Pope Leo is going to go from here. But one of the things I thought was really

00:44:23.820 interesting was, you know, he basically talked about how technology should be oriented towards

00:44:29.660 human flourishing, which is a pretty simple concept. It's a basic concept in Catholic social

00:44:35.520 teaching, and it's hard to disagree with that. You would think that's what everybody wants,

00:44:40.400 And certainly a lot of these A.I. guys, David Sachs, some others came out and basically said, yeah, you know, of course we agree with that.

00:44:47.860 We might have some disagreements about the level of government regulation, but generally we want to see A.I. serve humanity.

00:44:55.360 But there was a subset of that. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:44:58.840 But Sachs, that's a bald face lie. Every action they take, that's just their cover.

00:45:04.140 They don't want human flourishing.

00:45:05.340 You have this report, I think, out of The Guardian yesterday that 20% of young boys, I think, between 12 and 15, 20% of young men between 12 and 15 have an AI girlfriend right now that these people are pushing.

00:45:19.280 David Sachs, Elon Musk, these guys have no interest in human flourishing whatsoever.

00:45:24.780 They'll say whatever they have to say to make sure that we can't not somehow even have the modicum of a regulatory apparatus, sir.

00:45:33.900 I should rephrase that.

00:45:35.340 What I mean is that they are certainly going to say and be smart enough politically to recognize that everyone should want human flourishing out of this.

00:45:44.120 And so obviously folks are going to say that.

00:45:46.280 I thought it was interesting, though, that a lot of the true believers came out on X yesterday to basically say, no, we think that these AI beings, and that's what they call them, beings or entities, are ultimately going to supersede humanity.

00:46:02.460 that we're going to become junior partners in civilization.

00:46:08.060 And it was revealing to see a lot of those folks

00:46:11.680 kind of going down that road and logically where it ends.

00:46:15.460 And so I was pointing out that this is a cult of human diminishing.

00:46:20.640 It's very different than human flourishing.

00:46:23.100 This is a fever dream of these folks

00:46:25.920 that they're going to create a world

00:46:27.260 where AI will replace everything about humanity

00:46:30.600 and that we ultimately will be subservient.

00:46:34.220 You know, they even talk about their ethics

00:46:36.020 and you'll hear some of the anthropic guys

00:46:38.000 or others, you know, really focus on that.

00:46:40.380 But when they're talking about ethics,

00:46:41.480 they really don't mean what the technology itself does

00:46:44.940 where they really want no limits.

00:46:46.840 They're talking about, you know,

00:46:49.240 making sure that we have welfare programs

00:46:51.100 and sustenance for humanity,

00:46:53.040 kind of pushing us towards a matrix-like future

00:46:55.760 where we're, you know,

00:46:56.960 completely subordinated to the machine.

00:46:59.520 And so, you know, I think politically, you're obviously seeing some folks recognize that they want to push AI, that they need to speak a certain way and they need to recognize the wisdom in the Pope's encyclical.

00:47:11.560 But some of these guys cannot hold back, Steve, and it's really revealing.

00:47:16.660 But I want to go back to this because these are kind of the mid-level management and the workers, but they are manifesting what their leaders say behind closed doors.

00:47:28.240 Everything you see that they're saying publicly is just their consultant saying,

00:47:31.140 you better say this or you're going to get shut down.

00:47:34.840 You know, the accelerationist versus the decelerationist.

00:47:38.400 And we're not decelerationist.

00:47:40.160 What we are is that we want a coherent program. 0.66

00:47:43.640 Number one, we want to stop funding and fueling the Chinese Communist Party's rise 0.95

00:47:50.080 in the world of artificial intelligence because, yes, they are very dangerous. 0.97

00:47:53.640 on every technology they get read kill the order on organ harvesting that just won on every 0.96

00:47:59.580 technology to get their hands on they put it at the use of a um of the marxist state 1.00

00:48:07.140 remember whitaker chambers taught us that the difference between western civilization and and 0.86

00:48:13.680 the marxist leninist uh apparatus is one is a deep-seated belief in god and god is central that's 0.96

00:48:20.400 the West. God is central, and actually everything revolves around one's belief in God versus the 0.72

00:48:26.860 Marxists, which are cold-blooded atheists. If you want to see that, that they've now created their

00:48:31.400 own God, just look at these tweets that happened yesterday. Just give it to me in a minute. I'm

00:48:36.080 holding you through the break. In a minute, what was their response yesterday about human flourishing,

00:48:41.300 sir? Well, they believe fundamentally that we are to be junior partners in civilization,

00:48:47.680 And so that we need to figure out how to sustain and find meaning for humans when we're not really leading civilization anymore.

00:48:55.800 And I think that's something we have to aggressively dispute.

00:48:59.360 You know, ultimately, humans are created in the image of God.

00:49:02.900 We can't create something that is also in the image of God.

00:49:06.120 It's not possible.

00:49:07.200 And the Pope actually goes into this in his encyclical.

00:49:10.140 You know, this is the Tower of Babel story.

00:49:12.340 And ultimately, it's happening again.

00:49:14.660 And, you know, this desire to create higher beings that are greater than ourselves, we can't do that.

00:49:21.260 And ultimately, I think a comeuppance will happen if we dare try.

00:49:26.240 John, can you hang on for a second? I want to just hold you through the break.

00:49:30.620 What's the populist site? Give your populist site where people can go.

00:49:35.020 So I was in the administration last year for a year over at the FTC.

00:49:38.040 I had a great time, Andrew Ferguson, doing good work over there.

00:49:41.060 But I wanted to come in to American Principles Project and really try to reorient the party towards being more populist.

00:49:48.840 And so we have this blog over at Substack, populistsolutions.substack.com, where we are coming up with ideas for where the party should go.

00:49:57.720 Should we be, you know, our economics needs to be more oriented towards families, not towards corporations, these types of things.

00:50:03.460 And so we're trying to come up with as many ideas as we can.

00:50:07.640 And these ideas are big.

00:50:09.080 Just stick around.

00:50:10.640 Take your phone out.

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Bannon's War Room - May 26, 2026

Episode 5398： Saving Texas Saves Our Nation; AI： The New Tower Of Babel

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